The first order of business and order is the first weekend of the rise as you were able to do it.

All right, we will proceed.

Then President Horton at this time and entertainment a motion to approve the council proceedings or minutes from July 15th, 2025.

Move to approve.

There's a motion and second from Alder Balogue.

Any discussion on said minutes.

Seeing none, all those in favor, please say aye.

Aye.

Opposed.

The motion carries.

We'll now move on to public hearings.

I will ask the city clerk to read the procedure for public hearings.

The public comment segment is an opportunity for citizens to speak directly to the common council.

Speakers will limit their remarks to three minutes.

There shall be no dialogue or interaction between the speaker and elected officials or staff.

This time is not intended to be a debate or discussion.

The common council shall not hear any personal complaints or attacks against any city employee or elected official or any matter related to an individual claim, citation, appeal, or lawsuit.

Profane disruptive threatening or conduct that otherwise impedes the safe, orderly, and effective conduct of the common council meeting is equally unacceptable during the public comment period, as it is during all their portions of city meetings.

When a group of people representing one viewpoint wishes to address the council, one person should be appointed the designated speaker for the group.

Candidates for public office may not use this opportunity to campaign for office.

Speakers during the public comment period shall follow all rules of the common council and rulings of the chair, including a decision to terminate the remarks if the speaker did not adhere to these rules.

Public comment shall be limited to ideas or concerns regarding the city of Racine.

There will be five speakers this evening.

The first is Brandon Campbell from 1600 Albert Street.

Thanks before the first speaker begins.

I just want to remind her you get three minutes when your three minutes are up.

The conversation ends.

That's not a critique of what you're saying.

It's just to keep everybody to three minute rule.

So please proceed.

Good evening.

I am the most concerned about the lack of communications with resources and health services for the received town residents.

Because of this, there's probably gonna be a lot more people needing more help when given what's going on in the federal level with people losing SNAP benefits.

When they help the communication of local leaders, they should be able to give out resources to food pantries, green clinics, and help in onto marketplace or any other health and food services.

We need to have open communications.

We've gotten help and safety for the residents.

Thank you.

The next speaker is Jeff Coe, 1044 Villa Street.

Evening everybody, I'm here to talk about something we all should be concerned about.

Our water and wastewater utility bills.

Public fire, 10.20 cents.

Sewer usage, 11 dollars and 56 cents.

City sewer charge 30.

Household hazardous waste 75 cents.

Stormwater's charge 46 and 67.

46.86 cents.

The total of fees for my water usage of 12.44 cents comes to 121 dollars and 67 cents.

This is getting out of hand.

How is it fair that the actual water usage is the smallest part of the bill?

I'm trying to be mindful and conserved.

The problem I have with this is that the user fees make up 90% of my bill.

We all need to live within our means, but the city continues to do just the opposite.

At budget time, I urge all the aldermen to look at these fees.

The city is going to look at raising these fees, I believe.

Once again, they're going to raise the fees with the excuse of price of everything is going up.

It is exhausting to feel you're being charged just for existing.

I am no, I know I'm not the only one struggling with this.

Something needs to change.

The mayor of this needs to stop hiring people in his office, focus on the taxpayers in the city.

A friend of mine's own building in downtown.

It has not been running for nearly six months.

His last quarterly bill was 154 with no water use.

How is this fair?

Not another topic.

I hope you all really looked after Woodman's license.

Thank you.

The next speaker is Oscar Silas, 521 6th Street.

Morning, everybody.

Welcome to you and I just walk up.

Well, I come here today to speak to you guys about a couple different issues.

And one of those that really hit me hard this week is uh the simple fact of the racing fire department local 321 and their memo that they uh put out to the uh meeting news and media companies, they put it out to the public, and it's disheartening.

It's disheartened to see that our fire department and our police department still does not have a contract.

People say, Oh, we're in negotiation, we're in negotiation, no negotiation.

What is negotiation doing but sitting around twiddling thumbs?

They go out there every single day.

Sometimes the fire department is the first one on the scene that has to pull a body on the forever.

Sometimes they have to go in there and they have to go to the domestic violence first and try to de-escalate the situation.

Sometimes the police department that comes first, but for them to put out a memo that they're having to go through more litigation because they still don't have a contract.

When they're on the front lines day after day after day, I would encourage each and every one of you sitting here today, including the mayor, to do a ride along with the fire department because they allow that.

Do a ride along with the police department because they allow that and see what they go on to every single day.

And then wonder why they're asking for what they're asking for.

They're not asking for millions of dollars for themselves to go in their pocket because 90% of them are the most beautiful people you'd ever meet.

There's a kid suffering, they're gonna bring them a teddy purpose.

I'll give you a good example.

There's a there's an officer that's brand new on the forest.

Kid was having problems with his mom.

It was them turning into a domestic because he was throwing rocks at his mom trying to hit his mom.

What did that officer do after he does he got done with the situation?

He went in his own pocket, didn't let our company pay for it, didn't let me as a citizen pay for it, but went in his own pocket and said, you know what, give whatever you want in the store.

And he paid for that.

They try to do what they can, but we're not giving them the tools that they need to do it.

We're not giving them the tools they need to bring in more firefighters.

We're not giving them the tool that they need to do more education to bring more people into our community.

Sit down, have a meeting and discuss it.

Please, Mayor, I'm begging you to sit down and have a conversation and work out a contract with fairness, equalness, and looking at what exactly they do for our community.

Until that happens, we ain't gonna get nowhere.

I hope you guys all have a good day.

Think about what you do.

The next speaker is Ed Larkin, 2054 Orchard Street.

Hello.

Um, I'm here to talk about chess.

That's what I do is we teach chess in the community.

Uh we reach this one of my, she's I taught her when she was in the third grade or so.

And this is my first communitypreneur.

Communitypreneurs are community advocates who are enrich the community.

So we're looking for more support from the uh city.

We have uh meet here at the library bi-weekly on Wednesdays, but we also I teach chess within the school district for within all of schools, and we're starting there they want more tournaments, but we have what we have what we call uh chess peace science, and that's when we invite her community leaders, first responders, teachers, and everyone to just play open free chess with the students who would like some support from um our government uh to just have uh you know we teach social emotional learning chest.

We because we're seeing that uh our community, our students is they just they they just they need social and emotional help.

Um chess is an intergenerational sport, and all can be involved with we think that uh by working with the comp houses, we we do we have schedule things with the comp houses, but again, we're just looking for support and any kind of resources.

I'll let my thing for them.

My name's um I learned how to play chess by Mr.

Mark King, and now I work in the school, and so he comes in and he teaches my students how to play, and I think that's a cool like full circle moment, and this is also my first city council meeting.

I think it's pretty cool.

I see some of my neighbors, some of my old uh classmates.

Okay, there's um, but yes, no, I definitely think that chess is a good tool to present to it.

I brought my niece here, we check out a bunch of those, and now we're teaching her how to play chess a little bit, and I think we just need more support and extra push.

Um, also the case at the school, they're always engaged week after playing.

So, yeah, just need push support and love from the community um to enrich our students, encourage them and show them that there's other outlets.

Thank you.

As long as our proper starting July 1st, so we're this called chestmates, LTV, and we're really looking for support and possible committee members.

Thank you.

The last speaker is Matt Ostergard, 1433, Valley View Drive.

Good evening.

Uh, I arrived before you today, really on two topics.

First, uh I am a board member of the veteran of Wisconsin.

I'll refer to them uh moving forward as Bow.

Uh, but two topics tonight.

Uh, I recently applied for an open vacancy on the CDBG board.

Uh, as uh uh as a person that lives outside of the Racine City limits, I live adjacent to it.

But given my activities in the community and a 25-year army uh retired veteran.

I do a lot of work in the veteran service organizations here in the city, and as I just mentioned, I'm a board member of veteran uh vowel.

And so I was denied that application based on uh my lack of residency within the city, which by my understanding of the ordinance um can be chaired or can be occupied by somebody that has special interest in the application between development funds or somebody that operates who space.

So I come before anybody that's listening tonight to reconsider uh my application moving forward.

The second thing I would like to uh talk about tonight in terms of some of the activities for BAO.

Uh and recently the council is going to vote on CPG program tonight.

Uh, as the idiom goes, success has many fathers.

Uh failure has an organ.

I'll accept earlier as not getting uh any funds for VAO in this round of uh in this in this federal funding realm, but I just want to at least communicate now for in the future for future consideration of what does for this community.

Um based on 2023 data, 36% of the veterans in Racine County live in the city.

That's roughly five percent of the city's population.

Uh for the first half 2025 are veterans marketplace food entry.

I signed up 131 new veterans, and we are now serving 750 veteran households.

We have distributed almost 193 tons of food in the first six months of 2025, and over 76,000 non-food items.

Throughout the year, we maintained 15 tiny homes with 100% occupancy, providing address veterans up to 24 months to get back on their feet.

And our officers thereabout push that average state on four two months, reinverting them into the community oftentimes in the city of Russian.

We currently have 19 veterans signed up in our nine-line program to help combat suicide long term.

So in the remaining time that I have left, uh, we have been engaged with the city for over a year.

Um to cultivate and try and get a housing uh program developed for, or we have a house to expand our program.

And we've been unsuccessful.

And so I just want to close tonight and get that everybody on the brain housing group.

Thanks much.

This concludes the public comment segment.

Okay.

We now move on to next item, which is a public hearing to exceed geographical and quota restrictions for a class A retail fermented malt beverage and intoxicating liquor license for Woodman's Food Mark Incorporated looked located at 5900 Avenue.

The clerk will please call the first person registered to speak on the item.

Brandon Campbell, 1600, Albert Street.

Good evening.

I do support the idea of giving Woodmans a class A liquor license as I work in a Class A establishment for Speedway.

As long as there are certifications of their managers and the employees in the liquor department, I do believe that it should be in the best interest to give them the liquor license.

With the certifications and knowing that their managers and employees are thoroughly trained on how to do a sale and refuse a sale based on a person if they are intoxicating.

When working at Speedway, I've been trained as well as to be forces to get my liquor license as well.

Denying a liquor license can result in possible loss of sales for a company.

As long as they have taken the appropriate steps, it should be in the best interest.

Make sure that every business knows the fairness of the licensing process and policies.

Thank you for that.

The next speaker is Oscar Salask, 521 6th Street.

But okay, I'm in support of any group within the city, right?

What I'm not in support of is not the impair.

And I'm sorry to say it, I'm gonna be the one to say it.

I'm gonna be the rare one here and not say fairness.

A few of you guys a few weeks ago voted that we did not need more later establishments in the city.

You voted that somebody did not get one.

They're a two million dollar renovation project, two million dollars that was gonna come into our city that was actually gonna pay tax to our city.

But I found out that Woodman's actually has a tax break.

And wow, what a snail in the coffin in the bum there.

Now, what I have to look at in fairness is you guys said that, oh well, geographical, okay.

You had a daycare center there, and I believe one other establishment for kids, okay?

Now let's look at woodman's for a second.

Let's build the guys mean a map, please pull one up.

You have a kids' gym right across the street.

You have a park, you have another park, you have a water department that is for a water thing for kids, and not only that, you have a sports complex that does all the youth football.

So one of your things was saying that we don't need no more around children's events.

Well, hmm, it's right there.

It's not like they're going to be giving anything back to the city if they don't, if they get a liquor license, hey, they're not gonna give anything back.

They don't give it, then they're not gonna be giving anything back.

They have a tax break.

Maybe let's see how this project runs for a year, like you said with the other one and how they do in development within our community, and then revisit.

That's what you said with the last one.

Let's revisit it.

And you said that, oh, I don't want any more liquor around kids and daycares.

That's what I heard about from a lot of people.

And I heard from the community that a lot of people don't want to see it.

I put a poll online again to see what the statistics were within our community.

And I got a lot of good feedback, and a lot of people saying that, hey, trial runs, trial runs, they should get it.

Yes, but we should do a trial run.

Maybe, maybe give them a beer license, see how they do.

You know, you want to you gave a liquor license to somebody that lied in an application and gave them a temporary one.

Maybe we baby feed them like we're baby feeding everybody else for the growth of the city.

The thing is, is you have to go on fairness.

Fairness is you denied a liquor license to a two million dollar project over a daycare center.

We have at least five different children's centers within the area.

I'm only speaking through a media aspect here because this is what I'm getting from my people online.

When I ask questions to the community, they tell me what they want to see.

And I have to bring that to you because some of them are too scared to come up to this committee for retaliatorial purposes to their business.

So we have to be the ones to speak out for them and what they're saying and what they messed up privately and what they consistently say.

I'm not picking on anybody, I'm not saying anything on this or anything like that.

But there's a few of you here sitting at this table that said, I got phone calls from people and my constituents that don't want to see another liquor license.

Are we gonna vote on fairness?

Are we gonna vote on what the city needs?

It's not like it's gonna bring anything better to the city if they get it or if they don't get it.

If they get it, cool, they get it.

But are they gonna bring anything back?

That's tax break.

If they don't get it, we see how they operate, we see how the function goes, we pull it back for every six months to a year.

Let's see how they do.

Let them prove to this community that they want this.

You didn't give the other one the ad opportunity to prove themselves.

At least this one is still moving forward and approve themselves.

Vote how you voted last time with fairness and intent.

The next speaker is Colin McKenna, 724 Brad Tree Lane.

Good evening.

Um I'm speaking in favor of a class A directory license and hope you improve it for woodman.

Uh, because um your grocery store can retain uh like thing saying by the mall, they have a license.

And uh Kingly Wiggly on Durand Avenue, they also have electric.

So I heard you part this class A lecture license for woodland girls story, not any of the girls reach story in receiving them all but that's you have that kind of like in the interruption going.

So please part there for one thing.

The last speaker is Jeff Poe, 1044 Villa Street.

I'm not against this place, but I'm against is the way to process Wentman.

The mayor vetoed the other place.

He said there's too many liquor establishments in an area.

That's one of the big things.

Well, guess what?

There's liquor licenses and restaurants and everything all over Alpha.

And we're not being fair just because these guys got millions of dollars from the city, and also they're gonna be paying money back to the city, and that it's not fair.

We turned down something that was in the inner city for two million dollars.

You know what doesn't sound like a lot of money compared to Woodman, but it is a lot of money for this neighborhood, and we do and we were not fair about it at all.

Mayor, you were wrong on this whole thing, and I'm gonna tell you that right now.

I am not against the slicing, but you guys all supported it or a slice and then he vetoed it, and then boom, all of a sudden it was shot down.

How is that?

Why is there?

You guys have a conscience on what you guys do.

A few years ago when I was on that committee, when um Target came in and wanted a liquor license.

We voted no for the liquor license.

They eventually got a beer license, but we voted no on target.

I didn't hear anybody vetoing anything on that.

And all I'm saying is I just don't want to see this.

I was here for that last meeting.

All the people, all the questions, all the time that was taken, and I'll bet you when the discussion comes up about woodmans, it's gonna take five minutes, and everybody here has been supported.

And I don't have a problem with the support of there, but I do have a problem with fairness across the board, and it's not happening in this city.

Thank you.

This includes the public hearing.

This concludes the public hearing on the hearing to see geographical and quota restrictions for a class A and retail fermented mark beverage and intoxicating liquor license for Woodman's food mark incorporated, located at 5900 Durand Avenue.

We now move on to communications introduced to council.

The first item for referral is a referral to the maybe the whole polar morton.

Could you read that item or I'm sorry, you make a motion for referral regarding that item?

Oh move the motion to uh refer to that so motion and a second to refer the item.

All those in favor of referral of the item, please say I know it.

I'm sorry, sorry.

Um Alder Prairie's got question.

Yes, sir.

I'd like to amend the uh paragraph to read to include the chief of police and have it in closed session due to the sensitive nature of the strategies uh being uh point.

Second is a motion for an amendment's been seconded by older widener uh discussion on your amendment.

Um would you like to read the item and explore?

Yes, sir.

Status of this comprehensive plan to an analysis of gunfire and uh gunfire shooting calls in racing this year, and third one is trying to be implemented to address gun violence and receiving.

Okay, there's an amendment to this item to include the chief of police in the presentation and to hold the item in closed session.

And moved and seconded, Alder for us, you want to speak to your amendment.

Yeah, I think it's important that we as alders uh understand what's going on in the community.

We get a lot of questions, and we really don't have answers to them because this information is not being communicated to us.

I think we have it in closed session, even though I'm sure they won't be able to share all the strategies, and at least it'll give us an idea of what's going on in the community and we can better respond to our constituents and a knowledge for ourselves.

You know, we've had uh some pretty tragic weeks in the last month or so, and uh it's important for us to know how to um represent the city well and how to uh have informed answers to questions that are addressed.

I I agree with the sentiment of trying to make sure that we can use some of these strategies a little bit, you know, talk away, but I think that if we do this in close session, that we still need to make sure there's some kind of report that's given to the public and everybody so they can also have an understanding maybe afterwards or something just so that I mean that's the board.

I just want to make sure that we also have some kind of information out there for the residents who will go forward as on fine elder horton.

Uh I would be a supporter of that.

Uh that the uh chief and uh direct to say come in and have a conversation about some of the things that's happening in the city.

We have had a couple weeks of uh president city.

Uh the second thing is just for uh Alder Townsend.

There are some uh alders are talking about having some some town halls and maybe uh when we have an opportunity bring them, bring them back into that space too to talk about some of the programming or some of the things that are being done.

So we are uh we can get together the alder from 15 to put things together uh for the public that we can have a conversation, but we can hear like you know, for what's going on where it's being done just to Alder Townsend's point.

We the committee should decide to do it, do part of the meeting closed session for the pieces of it that they feel are sensitive and strategic, and then come into open session and have a more outward-facing conversation about it as well.

So the one doesn't for him, you can do both, I guess is the point.

I think you don't want to be careful to keep things that are pertinent to close session in closed session, but uh Alder Townsend's point.

It doesn't have to be one or the other, it can be part of it and closed compared and open.

Any other discussion on the amendment scene and so again what we're voting on now is not the full referral, it's an amendment to the referral to include the police chief and to go in closed session for the pieces as needed.

When the clerk calls your name, please vote as you wish.

Alder Kelly one second, please hold on the sound is down.

Thank you.

Alder Harman, aye, Alder Pabone, Alder Frazier, Alder Townsend, Alder Davis, Alder Matt, Alderman Widener, aye, Alder Horton, Alder Escada, Alder Allen, uh Alder Pete, Alder Land, aye, Alder Perez, 14 ayes, zero no's.

Amendment is passed, Alder Wider.

Thank you.

Who would like to make an amendment to this?

We have a date certain perhaps within 30 days.

I would have you set up the whole budget.

So I'd like to see what's we take on 30 days with a song to take some date set.

Second the motion, the amendment to the referral is to make it date certain by the within 30 days.

Is that it?

Okay.

And moved and seconded.

Uh Alder Horton, do you want to speak to the item at all in terms of your intentions around 10 minutes?

No, I'm I'm I'm gonna agree on this with it.

I know that we have uh we have a long uh budgets coming right around the corner.

And so uh I'm willing to have that meeting within 30 minutes.

Okay, it's a motion to have this item within an amendment to the main motion to have this item within 30 days.

All those in favor of the amendment to motion, please say aye.

Aye closed.

That motion carries now to the referral item.

All those in favor of referring this item to the committee of the whole as twice amended, please say aye.

Aye opposed.

That motion carries.

Alder Land, would you like to make the motion regarding referral to the items on your agenda?

The following items to the finance and personnel committee.

Item 07495, communication by myself, submitting the claim of Benny None for consideration for disallowance.

Item 07525, communication by myself.

Submitting the claim of some Q and we have the supplies to consideration for disallowance.

Item 0753-25.

Communication sponsored by myself.

Submitting the claim of the state of Wisconsin Department of Administration on behalf of their employee Darneen Barr for consideration for disallowance.

Communication sponsored by myself on behalf of behalf of the finance director requesting permission to submit the presentation of the second quarter 2025 fiscal result.

Item 0762-25 communication by Alder Horns on behalf of the city engineer requesting permission to apply for Washington Avenue for this grant program.

Item 0776-25.

Communication sponsored by Mayor Mason.

Seeking authorization for the city of Racine to enter into a governmental entity and shareholder direct settlement agreement and Purdue Farmer.

U.S.

Playing Defense Court 7 District Case number 193649.

Item 077-25 communications sponsored by May Mayor Mason requesting approval to enter into an agreement with the racine to logic group society to identify a site for the construction of conversation conservation education center and approval ground lease for construction and maintenance of the veterinary hospital and the city home reaction.

I didn't look at the use items to finance and post-mount.

There was a second time.

I didn't see the made public.

Moving on next to the referral to public works and services.

Communication from all the jargon center for us requesting consideration placing stop signs on Lombard Avenue and St.

Clair Street.

Item 0748-25 communication on behalf of Darlene Harho Better Ways Deliverance Ministries requesting the close Washington Avenue from Hayes Avenue to Linderman Avenue for their church back to school giveaway and bookout on August 30.

Item 0750-25 communication on behalf of the city engineers submitting amendment to contract 2024 441 three party consultant engineering service contract between the city wiscott and Bachelor Woodman for state project 2703-08-01 slash 71.

Item 0751-25 communication on behalf of the city requesting approval of transferation project plat for state project ID 2703-08-01 South Memorial Drive.

Item 0781-25 communication on behalf of the Department of Public Works Submit for Contract 2023 020 Downtown Lightning Improvements.

There's second for the report second from Alder Perez.

Motion carries.

Moving on to public safety and licensing.

Item 05 0768-25 submission sponsored by Halloween County Special High Walmart with the Wisconsin Department of Brexit Mill Chunk to present to public safety and licensing such information facts regarding the state regulations regarding linker and lead license.

Communication on behalf of Jill again.

Requesting fee police Thursday for me police for Thursday or Saturday from 10 a.m.

to 3 p.m.

from 10 p.m.

to 3 a.m.

in the downtown.

It should be 10 p.m.

38.

0771-25 communication on behalf of the city received police pardon for the life transfer board 0725 communication submitting an application for a premise description change for chart room restaurant LLC DA located at T High Down Street.

Jenny Nazi for 30 invited items 0773 Five Communication submitting an application for a premise description change from the bridge center tab LLC VA located at 303 dash street.

Jenny Matty, those district invited 0774-25, and case requesting any consideration and formal expression of concern or other actions for solutions of the police report.

Medication requesting that assistant city attorney present a settlement agreement recovered in the disciplinary proceedings again.

Submitting a renewal cigarette tobacco and found shaving device, reads the license application that you have LLC.

No pretty the Trump teleport.

Requesting the period appearance of an example evidence agent of select 627 LLD to communicate select 627, located at 11 left Washington annual pursuant to a formal expression of concern and also requesting consideration for Sydney Problem Expression of concern.

Requesting the appearance of hardcore, glass of strict agent for Cafada, LLC BB, Marcos Neighborhood Bar, located at 30170 for third to our formal expression of concern.

Also requesting consideration of city component expressions for those done those things.

All those in favor, please say aye.

I hope that motion carries.

We now move on to committee reports.

Yes, Caronor, I have two items.

Please read it first.

First one is 0558-25 communications sponsored by myself and all the towns and requesting updates on the racing zoological gardens and Western museums.

So contract with the racing zoological society be approved.

That's the recommendation.

The 2025 operating budget 500,000 in accountant 1509952100.

Move to approve.

There's a motion to approve the item seconded by Alder Thompson.

Uh Alder1.

Thank you.

And also the contract has been approved, but I know for months we've been talking about if the Zoo has actually been paid for their 2025 contract.

So I question maybe for the finance department, or not sure who but uh direct question to the city administrator if you want to thank you for questioning um the discussion at finance committee earlier in the year was and was approved by the council was to uh make all of the payments that had been budgeted for both uh the zoo contract and also the Western RAM contracts.

So uh my understanding is that as of the second quarter that we've been making those payments and the amount that was budgeted, uh we've now completed discussions about contract itself.

So the option before the council today is the finance committee's approval of the operating agreement, and then we will be subsequently referring to financial personnel, a separate agreement on land lease um and the uh conception of building future um medication center and a veterinary center at the thank you for that and I believe all or one of these entities were to be paid in a lump sum for the year 2025.

I don't recall uh if they were all paid in a lump sum.

I believe that one of them was quarterly, but I don't recall which one of us.

But the the payments that we received of uh in the budget are being made any other discussion on the item seeing none when the clerk calls your name, please vote as you wish, Alder Kelly, aye, aye.

Alder Harman, aye, Alder Pavone, Elder Fraser, aye, Alder Townsend, aye, Alder Davis, aye, Alder Matt, aye, Alderman Weiger, aye, Alder Horton, Alder Skada, Elder Allen, Alder Pete, aye, Otterland, aye, Alder Prez, aye, 14 ayes, zero nos.

Motion carries overland.

What was your second item for separate consideration?

0710-25 communications sponsored by Mayor Mingerson Alder Mac on behalf of the downtown receipt corporation requesting permission to close Main Street from State Street to 7th Street, 6th Street from Lake Avenue to Grand Avenue, Wisconsin Avenue from 4th to 7th Street for party on the pavement on September 20th of this year.

The working recommendation while the public works and services committees, the finance and personnel was at the request be approved, and then it went to the works and services and permission be granted.

There will be fiscal notes.

There will be costs for the various city compartments on regular strict basis to insist in implementing this event move through approves.

There's a motion and a second from Alder Pavone on this item.

Any discussion?

Alder White.

Just a question.

We don't have to vote separate on this.

We can incorporate it in.

I just got a question.

Um I did see this item, and perhaps I missed it on public works.

Sorry about that.

Okay.

Uh can maybe somebody could explain to me so why this item was sort of finance, but typically three proposed folks and it's only hold three public works.

I'll direct your question to the city administrative.

Yes, um Alderman, uh Council.

The uh requests uh for the street closure around um partying the pavement was directed to both public works and finance and personnel.

Um, because in the past uh there was um in addition to the three closure, there was also a grant of free parking, which has a financial impact to the city.

So it was uh it was simultaneously assigned to both committees.

Uh in this case, the resolution that is for you is the street closure only.

Uh it does not include the parking request, so therefore there is no financial impact to the city.

And the clerk Alder Townsend when the clerk calls your name, please vote as you wish.

Just for the item for this item.

Please vote.

Uh when the clerk calls your name, please vote as you wish.

Alder Kelly.

Aye.

Alder Harman.

Hi.

Alder Pavone.

Aye.

Alder Fraser.

Aye.

Alder Townsend.

Alder Davis.

Uh Matt.

Alderman Weiner.

Aye.

Alder Horton.

Alder Skata.

Aye.

Alder Allen.

Aye.

Alder Pete.

Aye.

Alder Land.

Aye.

Alder Prez.

Aye.

14 ayes, zero no's.

Motion carries.

We will then have.

I'm sorry, Elder Land.

Did you have any other items for the consideration?

Okay, if you could read that item.

Zero five four three down five.

Communication sponsored by myself on the heavy human resource benefits manager requesting that we will be or finance of personal to discuss employee health care and plan options.

It was deferred to the next meeting on July 7th.

And then July 7th.

It was remended recommended to approve the health care program as presented.

And then it was deferred again.

725.

Oh no, no.

Okay, I'm sorry.

Move to approve.

The motion to approve item 0543-25.

Is there a second item?

Second by Alder Pete.

Uh this again as a reminder, which was um robustly uh discussed last time, and the request was for a deferral.

So this is the item that was deferred from last meeting.

Any discussion on the item itself, Alder Prince?

I've asked the HR um person to come up so she can answer some budget.

Sure.

If Amelia would like to approach the DS.

Please state your question.

No, please take your question.

One of the things that I looked at again, and maybe you can clarify it for us.

Was there were only 14 providers within Ascension Hospital, which is the only hospital in the city of Rasin, none of which were specifically um pediatrics, there were family medicine.

Could you please clarify for me?

Because I know you did some research and what that how that plays out.

Yes, absolutely.

So I um did some research on my own.

I looked up all of the providers that specialize in pediatric and pediatric care, whether they were a specialty or overall general pediatric predators.

Um there are five in just in the racine county area, um, one of them through Aurora, so that would be applicable to the WI-1 networks, and then four through Ascension.

Um, so there are multiple pediatricians that are working in the scene county area.

I was looking up primary care providers as well.

Um, I stopped coming after I think it was 34, but there were more after that for primary care positions.

Yes, yes, correct.

So um I think there it's it would be a lot of petty education on my end as far as utilizing the provider search um tool that CENT was built.

So I think that's that'll be a heavy left on my end if we screen it up.

Um there's uh there's a disruption analysis that I completed with Ronan Brown when looking at moving from our current network through United Healthcare to these two Centibo networks, um WI-1 and WI-2, the Centivo WI excuse me, WI-1 network, which includes or health care, covered 99% of our employee population based on claims that we have at that point.

The WI-2 network covered 86 percent.

So there is very, very high coverage and very low disruption if we were to move to these networks through through Centro.

Other discussion on this item, Alder White.

I just have a question.

Something that struck in my my mind since our last meeting was the finance director had said that if we went the sentimental that the additional costs would be 800,000 versus 2.8 that we want to current.

So I just like some clarification on that.

But I will ask the finance director to ask that answer that question instead of Amelia.

Thank you.

Oh, you might want to stay in front of Amelia just in case there's other questions.

Director Fisher.

Sure, thank you for the question.

I think I heard it.

Um so when I was up here previously, I did talk about the two different projections that we had at this point in time.

Again, we're a little bit early in the year, but if we stay with what we have and only under the UHC network, and that's the only option for the employees.

We are projecting an increase under UHC of about 2 million 2.2 million dollars under this Cintivo.

The employees get an additional benefit of a choice, and our increase, we still would have probably a slight increase somewhere between 200 and 250,000.

Other questions or discussion on this item?

Okay, seeing none when the clerk calls your name, please vote as he wish.

No dad Harmon.

Hi.

Alder Paboom.

Alder Frazier.

Aye.

Alder Townsend?

No.

Alder Davis.

No.

Alder Matt.

Alderman Weisner.

No.

Alder Horton.

Aye.

Alder Escada?

No.

Alder Allen.

Aye.

Alder Pete.

Aye.

Alder Land.

Aye.

Alder Perez.

No.

Eight ayes, six no's.

Motion passes.

Alder Land, did you have any other items for separate considerations?

Without objection, the remainder of these items will be placed on the consent agenda, and we will move on to the public works and services committee.

Alder Mac, did you have any requests for separate consideration on any item?

I have none.

Okay, then without objection, the entirety of your report would be placed on the Alder Weiner.

It just clarification.

There was an item on the agenda for one report, item 050, which is a participation from itself authorities.

I think because it was received and filed that the government here on uh report.

I'm concerned if a received and filed item that's in registered, it would not appear that there was any conclusion for that particular item.

So I know you received a file that I'm hoping that on the next public works video report, you can bring it back with a receiving files of that.

I thought maybe it was supported in what heared on there with items.

Any other discussion on the items that are before us?

Then without objection, these items will be placed on the consent agenda.

And we'll move Alder Weiner on to you with the public safety and licensing committee report.

You have items for separate consideration.

The first item is 0672-35, which is a communication on behalf of the force office for a group application for a class Accelmental Beverage and Foxy with the license and figure it to that.

No discussion on that.

Okay.

Alder Weiner, would you make the motion?

Item is a motion to approve the item from Alder Weiner, seconded by Alder Pete.

Alder Weiner.

The only thing I'd like to say is that this item as have been with the twins that passed unanimously in the public state in the way.

So yeah, then Alder Pete, you don't have the floor right now.

Sorry.

Alder Allen.

Okay, so I just wanted to make a comment regarding because it has never been um addressed since I went on board or sorry on council.

And when I have attended licenses and committee meetings, it has something has never been brought up, including when twins was um being considered.

So I'm gonna ask the question now because this is how I voted.

Uh there is an existing ordinance that communicates how a license is considered with the boundaries and um the considerations for children and things in place.

It's been there from what I understand for a long time.

On the other side of that, there have been these these considerations where businesses have been afforded these licenses in spite of the ordinance.

Uh I attended the uh the license, the public licensing committee or say the licensing committee meeting when twins uh spoke to the committee about their intention.

It was a very quick meeting.

There wasn't a lot of discussion about what the plans were.

And my being new to the council at the time, I did not know to ask this question about the existing ordinance, which led to me giving uh a yes vote when it came in front of the council between that vote and the subsequent vote where I've changed.

I did a lot of my research, and that's how I found out about the ordinance, which is why I changed my vote.

So someone please explain to me why the ordinance is in place, and yet the ordinance has been waived to allow these special considerations for these businesses to open with these uh demographics being there that are addressed in the ordinance because if we're going to have the ordinance, follow the ordinance.

If that's how I'm going to vote, if we're not going to follow the ordinance, then we shouldn't have the ordinance.

So can someone please clarify that to for me?

Oh, Alan, I'll refer your question to the city attorney.

Yes, quite well.

Because the simplification that has been out there in the community community and on the board, so why people vote why they do I vote because there's an ordinance in place that has not been addressed to me as to why we make these considerations.

The attorney, please thank you.

So she he's got she's got the floor right now.

She posts the question again when he's done.

The question was to the attorney.

She's posing it there.

She has the floor.

I'm referring it to the city attorney when he's done.

She still has the floor.

You'll be in the queue next.

City attorney.

Yes, there is an ordinance in the city of Roscene that relates to this.

There's two pieces to it.

One, there is a restriction on the total number of class A licenses, both kinds of class A licenses in the city.

Um, and there's a geographic restriction about how far class A uh liquor licenses may be from other class A licenses.

And also um within a certain distance, 300 feet of any place of worship, license daycare center, school, community center, or other facility predominantly attended by individuals under the age of 21.

There is a provision in the ordinance that allows the common council, if it chooses to exceed that quota number of licenses or the geographical restrictions, if the common council votes by a two-thirds majority of all members present to allow the license to be issued, notwithstanding those restrictions.

So it's not I know you didn't use the word ignoring, but it's not ignoring the ordinance, it's following the ordinance if the council decides under a certain circumstance that the quota or the geographical limitation or both should be exceeded.

So then I guess that I'm going to go back to the other part of my statement, then is because if I'm if I'm just driving around recently and I'm pointing out businesses, it seems that more often than not, there has been a wave to that to that ordinance, right?

And so then it comes back to the question then.

If we're going to make allowance this more often than not, then I guess I'm asking why the ordinance is still in place.

As a new council member, I'm asking this.

And then if we're going to uh make uh an exception for a business, then it's probably something that should be stated at the meeting as to why we're why we're making an allowance for this particular business, because we haven't done that, which again that is what influenced my change in vote in the past.

But I'm I'm thinking through at this time now.

Otherwise, I was just gonna say that um on our agenda suit evening under F is a public hearing to exceed the geographical school resistance for class ATOM permitted all beverage and tax cave liquor rights or safety happen when's case of that is not my question, all the microbial questions.

Other Alan, you don't you don't have a floor right now, older Alan?

Um you're if you want to speak again, you can ask me back in the queue, all the wine area of the floor.

Well, I was gonna say is that the public safety and licensing committee and this bodies of the public hearing that we have for both treated both applicants per se.

And I know that the public safety and uh licensing committee have been assisted, but then their questioning and their rationale as to why they approved the licensing that they approved.

And remember that the babies uh vote is simply a recommendation to this body.

You have the perfect right to overrule that recommendation if that is their choosing.

Yes, I said on public safety and licensing, and this is the same thing that we did with the Bitcoin's refresh old old things, but they followed the same way procedure.

Um at the time when we had a previous license in front of us for treatment organization.

We went through, I don't even know, but like seven hours of debate on the floor, but we talked about it in great length.

So um the the facts were known, and it's a geographical whole restriction exception.

That's in the ordinances that's for um alder that if they are not on the committee or are not aware to reach out and give clarification.

And if they feel that I have the ordinance, then we would you can provose an ordinance to get rid of it, so I don't know how successful that would be.

But as far as my committee goes, if I said when I know we do um take a great deal of pride of examining what's in front of us and deeming it worthy of uh a recommendation for an exception to how what happened.

First Woodman goes, I'm in favor of them having the license.

This is as well as the twins having the license.

This is a geographical co-exception um as stated before.

Um, but as someone like Woodman's again, a big restaurant store, they're gonna have an alcohol department of some sort, um, and extra revenue coming in for just the same reason I voted the same way last time with the twins.

Um, the only thing that you have to look for is you know, then 30 hours after this if we approve it, but there's anything coming from the mayor's office.

But besides that, that I mean it's there we're doing it, but we've talked about it a great deal at the public safety and licensing, at least we're gonna go bringing the stack of this day that would be handed to us, more than willing to give any of my fellow alders at the stack as well if they would like to look at it or talk to us about it.

Um, I don't think that this needs to drag on any longer, but that's not my decision.

That's by each decide, and I'll be voting.

Elder Mac.

Thank you.

I fear that uh, even if we approve this tonight, that um there could possibly be a different outcome if uh actions are consistent with what's happened in the recent past.

So I have two questions for the committee chair.

Number one, if we don't approve this tonight, will women still move forward with their project?

And the second question is was any consideration um given to granting them just a beer license.

Um it was pointed out by former Alder and Cole that part it was denied a um license to sell alcohol and beer and eventually just granted a beer license.

So two-part question.

Um would uh help me in processing this situation and anticipating what might happen in the future.

Otherwise, we yield to the question.

I will.

Uh the first question was would the project move forward if it were not granted an alcohol license.

We did not ask if their project was going to move forward because their project is always complete, they're ready to open in September.

They are kind of late in the game, stars applying for the license, but that's the way they chose to do it.

As far as the second part of the question is where they offered the opportunity to have this a beer license, and I don't think that question was not asked either.

I had one follow-up.

Go ahead, um, and does this need to go to the planning commission and were any of those approvals already sought out?

Well, I did ask the uh member on the PSL committee that is also a member of the plan commission who said that they have apply because of everything that they were supposed to apply the spot.

Uh thank you.

I just want to add to what uh chair white uh communicated was uh well the person, and that is that public safety lifestyle committee does have specific guidelines that we have to follow.

We don't just discuss and uh make up rules as they go along.

We have we have followed guidelines that are provided by the city attorney's office as well as the state of Wesconson developed with the alcohol and bad collects.

So there's specific guidelines we foul uh to determine what's direct we're going here on the license at the same time.

I see your hand.

There's other people in the queue who might spoke and we'll get to Alder Harman.

Yes.

Um, before I make a statement, could Alder Windner please reread the communication that we're discussing.

Please proceed.

Item 0672 communication for a new application for I'm talking about in the entire including sponsor, please.

Communication sponsored by Albert Harmon on behalf of the City Flour's Office for a new application for a class B retail for mental energy and taxi electricity and cigarette tobacco and electronic bathing device retail license food market DVA Woodlands Food Market A number 45 located at 50 or 30 during that move right agent 14th district, right?

Was to approve the crystal vote is not this.

Thank you so much.

Sometimes you forget to include my name as this farm.

So as aldermen of the district, I approve this.

I agree with public license, the safety and licensing recommendation for this.

I've also talked to residents within the area.

There has been no concern from any residents with regards to this licensing being approved, which is completely different from calls that are received when we voted on this same type of thing last time.

Last time I actually got calls from residents who were saying they did not approve it when we had a public hearing on it, or when um we were able to have comments from the community.

There were people who again came forward and said that they didn't think that it was a good idea.

They wanted fresh fruit and vegetables and food.

Um Woodmans will have food, vegetables, including all of the things that a typical um supermarket has.

Also, the the company has followed all steps.

They have proven that they are committed to revitalizing the area, restructuring um the business.

They're all they're almost done.

Um we're going to be having an open house soon with regards to it.

No neighbors have come against this, has come to me against this.

And um, all individuals who spoke today even said that they approve it.

They thought that maybe the decision making didn't seem fair, but overall they approved it.

So I agree with public safety and licensing committee on approving this.

Thank you.

So a couple of things to consider here.

I know that there was a discussion when we were first looking at Woodman's coming into the area.

It'll be our major grocery store in the city, and most people expect woodman's to be like the women's that they've been at before.

However, I want you to consider that we made a deal for a 10-year tax break to the developer for Woodman's as well.

And although most people expect the um to go into Woodman's and get everything, that also affects the neighboring businesses, not only in our city, but in other cities.

Um he was very concerned with women's coming in there.

I know he had the discussion with you, and that it takes away from all the other businesses, but it's a major grocery store.

I love the fact that we have a major grocery store that has everything in it, even cubic food, by the way.

So denying a liquor license to comply with our um and even a baker, that's not gonna affect their business.

People are not gonna go there just to buy liquor, they're gonna go there to all their groceries, and the neighboring stores are gonna lose business as well.

I mean, we're this is a maker structure.

It's gonna even include a car wash that's coming up in uh another couple of things here, and so um denying them to comply with our laws, it's not gonna be a big deal.

People aren't gonna go there to buy tobacco vapes and alcohol, they're gonna go there to buy groceries, all kinds of groceries, and so um, we shouldn't be giving them an exception just because they're a major grocery store.

They're contributing to the community.

We love it, even though we won't get any tax break any tax income for 10 years from the developers, and but you know, the fact that they're there is a it's a good service for our community that also takes away business from all the other businesses, those mom and pop's and uh other uh major stores that are around that, and they whether they have the ability to sell alcohol, liquor, tobacco vapes, is gonna affect their business as well.

They will go into those stores to purchase some of those things that are already in place.

They don't have to go to Woody's to do that, they can go there for their major grocery.

So I want you to consider that we're not really making any money on this, and they don't need to sell alcohol-based tobacco and uh cigarettes to be successful.

They will be successful because they bring us a great product and a great grocery store, not an alcohol store.

And this is the comments that I want to Allen for a second time.

Thank you.

So it's a simplification for me.

Okay, because it's it wasn't that simple.

I had a when I come to the committee meeting, for instance, like the last committee meeting, there were applications there for licenses, and I physically drove to those locations, took pictures, walked into the store, talked to the person that was there, even though it wasn't my district, but I knew at some point was going to come in front for a vote.

And then I was able to sit in your committee meeting and have actual um a vision in my mind about what their license was going to look like in that space.

I think and I'm very familiar also with Woodlets.

So I'm not stupid, is the point I'm making.

The second point that I'm going to make is my question about the existing ordinance isn't particular about any particular business.

It is a question about if we're making the allowance more often than not, then maybe at some point as a committee, we should address whether or not we even need the ordinance.

That's two.

Three, it's not apples and apples, it's a different district.

And when we had person come here at the last meeting for twins, they said, and so did a lot of people state that the reason why they did not want it in that district was not district 14, it was district one, and what they wanted was an actual grocery store, and they were concerned about the safety.

And the only recommendation was given what they want, an actual grocery store, and then come back and revisit the other components.

That's what that district, those residents were asking for, and they should have been valued and respected for coming to the council as someone said earlier, though we don't respond to public comments.

Afraid to come, they weren't afraid to come in front of the council and stake their reasons for what they wanted in their community, and it should have been respected.

So it's not apples and apples, it's apples and oranges.

It's a completely different side of town, and the question remains we have an ordinance at some point.

The committee should consider whether or not we need the ordinance that there is more oftentimes than not that we're making an allowance.

Um thank you all, Alan.

I appreciate the statement, and I completely understand where it's coming from.

Um the practice in the past has been to allow the alder of the district to do the footwork to get the understanding of what the residents and the constituents want in that district, and then for the rest of the council to support it.

That has been the case many times than not.

Um not only is Woodman's bringing in necessary items for residents, it's also bringing in a lot more jobs.

Um, a 24-hour grocery store, a lot more jobs, that is definitely beneficial not only to that district, but to Racine as a whole.

Um they have a an established reputation, and again, they followed the necessary steps, they didn't put the card before divorce and asked for licenses before even completing a building, before hiring people.

Um, and I think all of that should be um taken into consideration when we vote.

I again agree with public safety and licensing to approve this, and for several reasons.

Again, therefore there's job creation, it's a necessary um business in the area, and there has been no residents who have come to me at the order who have said that that this is something that they don't want.

Thank you.

Any further discussion on the Alder Dis?

Um my first question is for this item 0725 is just about the license deal.

Are we having a vote for the part where uh the um exceeding or we have a separate vote for that?

So this is the vote regarding right.

There's three items that are here.

I'll ask if if I may ask the city attorney to explain the three items.

I assume um I'm predicting we might have separate consideration on the other two, but I'll ask the city attorney to make the distinction between this item and the next two.

They're all related to the same project, but they are three separate items.

So this one is on the class A preventive malt beverage and intoxicated liquor license.

So yes, the liquor license, and also in this item is the cigarette tobacco uh and vaping device retail license for the food market.

The next item is for gas station, gas service station license and the cigarette tobacco and vaping license for the gas station piece of the woods.

But the third item, yes, is specifically on whether or not to exceed the geographical and quota restrictions for the class A license.

Is that clarifying?

That's clarifying so my thing that we'll need.

Um we haven't set separate consideration for the exceeding say that statement for this.

Okay, thank you.

Alder Press for a second time.

If the agent is here, can we ask that they will go forward with just on your license instead of our lift for live?

So we're not able to do that at this time.

That was not um, we did have public comment earlier.

This is not an item that's noticed for public comment, so no, we we can't invite the agent to come up and speak to it.

Okay.

Any further discussion on the item?

See none.

As you wish.

Alder Kelly, aye.

Alder Harman, aye, Alder Babone, aye, Alder Frazier, aye, Alder Townsend, Alder Davis, aye, Alder Matt, aye, Alderman Weidner, Alder Horton, Alder Skata, Elder Allen, aye, Alder Pete, aye, Alder Land, aye, Alder Prez.

No.

Thirteen ayes, one no.

Motion carries.

Alder Winer, did you have another item for separate consideration?

On behalf of no point of order, application of board.

What's your point of order?

My point of order is that we are to respect the communication that is written out.

We have always communicated who the sponsor is, and it seems like Alder Wagner is being petty and not mentioning my name.

I would like for her to communicate who the sponsor is of this communication thing.

If the chair of the committee could read the item in its entirety, please.

I don't do that this time, but just so everybody understands.

Thank you.

I do not read through the sponsor.

Yes, you have on any communication.

Yes, you have.

So motion to approve by Alder Wagner, seconded by Alder Babone.

Any further discussion on this specific item.

See none when the clerk calls your name, please vote as you wish.

Alder Kelly, aye.

Alder Harman, aye.

Honor Pabone, Alder Fraser, Elder Thompson, Elder Davis.

Alder Matt.

Aye.

Alderman Weitner.

Aye.

Elder Horden.

All right.

Elder Skada.

Alder Alan.

Elder Pete.

Other land.

Hi.

Alder Press.

Hi.

13 eyes, one excuse.

That motion passes.

I wonder why you're gonna have any other items for separate consideration.

Item 0674 subject communications sponsored by Albert Harman on behalf of City Clerks Office for Mutation to exceed geographical and photo restrictions for a class A resale commanding raw beverage and toxicated living license for with them.

Number 45, you might give it at 5430 Durandaven, for a Florida agents of the district.

To approve the item.

You know, should you approve the item seconded by Elder Pablo?

Wherever you want.

Oh no, Pete will keep the second then.

Um discussion on the item.

Alder Davis, this was the item you were inquiring what uh earlier.

Would you like to speak to the item?

Right, thank you.

Um so I um tonight I support I'm in support of women's requests to exceed the geographical restrictions for class A license.

This position is not new for me.

I supported the previous development that came before us with a similar request.

I supported Save a lot that came towards my support, I was been moving in fairness, consistency, and a genuine desire to see racing growth in ways that serve our community.

But tonight, as we consider this request, I must speak to a concern that many of us cared.

Why was the same request denied when it came from another development not long ago?

What was lacking then that is present now?

What criteria has shifted, if any, for us to approve of this one.

The community, community deserves to understand not just what of our decisions, but the whys of our decisions.

Because when our decisions appear consistent, inconsistent, when our decisions appear inconsistent, choice begins to fade.

And when trust fades, so does our ability to lead with unity.

This is more than a license.

What is the vision we are building toward, not behind closed doors, but out in the open with our community as four participants?

Racing does not move forward on the shoulders of one, it moves forward through the voices of many.

So let me be clear.

Let's be fair and let's be consistent.

If we are to move our city forward, we must do it together with transparency, with accountability, and with a shared commitment to serve all on all the quarters of the city, all the districts, all the corners, no matter if it's 14 or first.

This is our scene, our vision, our future, let's build it together, let's come together.

Thank you.

My comment is closed.

All right.

Okay, so then I'll just reiterate since we are gonna go over it again.

The reason about transparency and fairness means that you start with the ordinance that's in place, and then you recognize that there is a difference between one district and another.

And if there is going to be fairness, then the fair thing to do is that when we have a public hearing about a business going into a district, and those people from that district come into front of us and state their concerns about their district.

The fairness is that you value their voices just like you value the voices of other people who might be in favor of such a business.

That's number one.

Number two, if we're going to go out to our community and we're going to ask our community about how they feel about things.

Well, I was just at my other board meeting, and there's a huge concern about how many vaping licenses are being brought into this city.

And that are and a lot of parents and families are contacting us on the school board asking about what we're doing about that.

So when we're talking about listening to the voices in our city and how our city wants to move forward, it isn't always going to be in favor of a particular business or everybody's going to agree.

You are going to sometimes have to take into consideration why you're going to waive something in one in one area of the city and why you're going to take a slower pace in another, especially if you have people that live there coming to you and saying, hey, we want to consider this way.

That is what fair and transparency is, ma'am.

And so when we're doing this, the other part is when we make a vote here in this committee, it is up for us to communicate just those differentiations and not to encourage communication out in the community that causes a problem or a safety concern for those of us that are on the committee.

Don't look confused.

Because right after that last vote came out, we also had go out to the committee.

Oh, these people voted because they're trying to mess up order.

No, it's not a point of order.

No, if you want to communicate the order.

You can see your point of order, Older David.

If you're going to community about the geographical location item here on just to be consistent, Older Davis, you broach this topic.

You can directly, and they want to get into their feelings they need to bag it up.

I can't believe it's sense in my professional feelings and addressing what you said.

Yeah, what we thought on something, we take consideration of every voice in this community, and it's not always going to be in favor of a business, and it is not one district, is not an apple to another.

There are differences in our city, and people have a right to come in front of our committee and expect that we're going to value their voices just like we value everyone else's.

You can't say transparency and fairness and then back up off of somebody coming here and saying that we're concerned about the safety in our in our community and what we want is this, that, and the other.

You cannot do that and they stress transparency and fairness.

And now, so they again was chair of public safety and licensing.

I do want to speak on behalf of the committee to say that the committee does not look at the district.

The city looks at the situation, the license that's being applied for, and we apply, as we've been instructed by the city attorney's office and first office, our recommendations have been consistent.

It is up to this guy to decide if they want to go along with the recommendation of the committee or not.

But as long as I'm on that committee, and as long as I chair that committee, the committee will be consistent in their recommendation to this committee, and then this committee can decide if they want to move.

Oh, repeat.

Thank you.

I have to regenerate what all the wider just stated, and I said it before.

We were there.

We've always been considered meaters that it's oftentimes without working.

So we are very consistent and fair as we go through the process procedures that we use the public safety license before we make a recommendation.

Thank you.

Other discussion on this item.

Thank you, Mayor.

I appreciate it.

I have heard um multiple times that there are individuals who don't understand why there is a difference in the vote from previous to now.

Because I am one of the people who changed my vote.

The service.

The first reason why I changed my vote was because there were constituents within that area that came to me and said, who is there to speak on my behalf right now against this happening?

That's one reason I changed my vote.

The second reason I changed my vote is because when the council voted, the alder of the district wasn't here to weigh in on the subject.

And again, typically our practice is to support the alder in their decision that is associated with their district.

And the third reason I changed my vote is because I actually met with the twins managers who were going into the creation of that.

And I was told personally that they were going to continue to do this business even if they didn't get a license.

That's what I was told face to face.

And so that's not those were that's what I was told.

No, I'm sorry.

Oh so Harmon has the floor.

So when you get additional information that supports a value of supporting a community and their constituents, I will always reserve the right to change my vote.

If the outcome is to better prepare a community, constituents, and alder for success and safety in the city of Racine.

Thank you.

Oscar.

You should not be advised.

Any other discussions on this topic?

Seeing none.

When the clerk calls your name, please vote as you wish.

Alder Kelly.

Aye.

Alder Harman.

Alder Baboom.

Elder Frazier.

Alder Townsend.

Elder Davis.

Elder Matt.

Alderman Weitner.

Aye.

Elder Horton.

Elder Skada.

Elder Allen.

Elder Pete.

Elder Land.

Aye.

Alder Prez.

14 ayes, zero no's.

That motion passed unanimously.

Alder Weiner, did you have other items for separate consideration?

Okay.

Then the remainder of these items will be placed on today's consent agenda.

We'll now move on to the planning heritage design report.

Alder Pete.

Did you have a request for separate consideration on this item?

No, sir.

I do not.

And without objection, this item will be placed on the consent agenda.

We'll then move on to the CDBG advisory board report.

Alder Horton, did you have any requests for separate consideration on this time?

Oh, Alder Wagner.

Alder Mayor has here that maybe.

Oh, okay.

I would like these items to be read and voted on separately.

And there is a what I believe to be in favor of uh PG report.

First letter the CD legal item.

Alder Martin, any directions to Aldermac when you were reporting.

Alder Matt, would you like to read the first item?

Item 0695 there is two five communications sponsored by Alder Widener on behalf of the city clerk's office.

So maybe you'd have recalled.

We're on the top of page 19.

Yeah, my page was our flipped.

And it's been confusing all night.

All right.

0588 is the first item.

Okay.

Zero by 88 through five communications sponsored by Mayor Mason that the fiscal year 2025-2029 five-year consolidated plan, including the 2025 annual action plan be approved and adopted.

The recommendation of the CDBG Advisory Board on 72825 was to approve the fiscal year 1.5 2029 consolidated plan and the fiscal year 2025 annual action plan and authorized staff from the city development department to submit the plan to the US Department of Policy and Urban Development.

The fiscal note is fiscal year 2025 fund will be expended according to HUD regulations for CDBG in the amount of 1,771,629.

The home funds 515,160, and the emergency service grant of 158,967.

The City of Racine expects to receive around 14 million and CDBG home and ESG funds over the course of the next five years.

The con plan and A committee will guide the use and allocation of those funds for its community development and affordable housing needs.

I would move approval of the item.

Second is a motion and a second to approve the item underweigner.

Thank you.

This item needs a correction.

In the committee, we can go in to approve the 2025, 2029 solid plan because we were under a time restriction.

What we did not approve because of the fiscal that was deferred.

So we did not approve the expenditures that are listed in the fiscal note.

And I don't know if all of the back calls it the same thing that I do, but we did not approve uh expanding the I I recall it differently.

The grant amount the way it's written and correct me if I'm wrong because I don't want to mess this up, is the federal uh 2025 funds will be expended as expended according to HUD regulations.

All we have there is the amount that HUD has approved for received the spending plan is not being approved by this action.

If it's all right with you, I'd like to refer uh to the director for clarification on that point.

Thank you, Mayor.

Thank you, all alderman.

May I have your attention for you?

If you have anything to share on it, please do show that all no shutdown at 2055.

Thank you.

Director Reddings, please consider.

Thank you, uh Alderman.

Um for the this um for the appropriation of the funds across all lines.

Please be reminded that those things can be amended in the future if necessary.

However, what we did not um approve was the special service uh values that will be coming back to you at a later date.

But we are approving the allocations for the different buckets as required by HUD.

Uh let me explain why we are here.

Um back then when the beautiful bill was passed.

Um, we were now aware uh if this funding were to continue.

So we wanted to be proven and um we make sure that we are in the best position to understand how that would impact our community.

So we delayed um bringing this to committee to find out what actually happened on July 14th.

Um correct, it was later put back into the budget that these funds will be available for 2026.

So again, we are under uh guidelines by HUD to submit a plan and have it approved to receive the funds that are we are entitled to.

And again, I will remind the Alderman that those budget amounts can be amended in the future.

As you will see later on this evening, we are moving funds around from one budget to another, and we can do that anytime we want or being necessary based on strategic priorities.

Then I need clarification with the city attorney because I submitted a communication to the CDBG committee, and that's what I would have to do if I want to amend what's in the bucket is I will have to submit a communication to the council to the CDBG to amend as a member of that committee.

But I was told by the clerk's office and affirmed by the city attorney that an Alderman does not have the ability to submit a communication to any committee except to a standing committee.

So therefore, if a member of CDBG committee, other than the chair, whether it's a public member or an alderman member, if they wish to amend these buckets, how do they do that?

Because we don't have the ability to submit a request to the committee.

You can submit a request to the committee, it's just not referred to the standing committee.

So refer your question as the attorney.

You may have missed my last email at Alderman Weidner.

Um, what I said was that the common council communication to the common council don't get referred to any bodies other than standing committees.

Anyone that's can any elder can ask for a communication to any of the commissions, boards, and authorities of the city of Racine.

Ultimately, it's up to the chair whether something is put on an agenda.

However, the body can decide something needs to be put on the agenda as well.

So the communication to CDPG would actually be submitted directly to CDBG, not a communication that goes on a common council agenda for referral to CGPG.

So I want to bring us back to the item before us, which is item 0588-25.

Just again to clarify, we're voting on tonight the types of funding we're sending this to.

We're not allocating any of these funds this evening.

Alder Widener for a second time.

Yes.

Question.

Question for the director.

So the buckets that you speak of, there's a bucket for the CDG, there's a bucket to hold, and there's a bucket for ESG.

Yes, but are there buckets inside the buckets?

Yes, we are.

But we're not approving the buckets inside the buckets.

We're just approving the big button for each, right?

We're not approving what the staff recommended in each of the individual buckets, correct?

We are approving the use of the funds that were allocated to the city of Racine.

We are approving the different buckets that can be amended for future consideration.

Thank you.

Okay.

So we are approving the buckets that are inside the bucket.

We're approving the types of funding that's available for the community to spend.

Again, none of this is an allocation this evening.

It's just designating the types of programming these funding sources will go to.

See no further discussion on the item.

When the clerk calls your name, please vote as you wish.

Alder Kelly.

Aye.

Alder Harmon.

Aye.

Alder Babone.

Aye.

Elder Frazier.

Elder Thompson.

Elder Davis.

And Alder Matt.

Aye.

Alderman Weitner.

No.

Alder Horton.

Aye.

Alder Skada.

Alder Allen.

Aye.

Alder P.

Aye.

Other land.

Aye.

Alder Press.

Hi.

It's going to be 13 ayes, one no.

Alder Weiner, did you want the other items for separate consideration as well?

Okay.

And without objection, the remainder of these items will be placed on the consent agenda.

And that will move us to the consent agenda.

Alder Harman at this time, I don't get a motion to approve the consent agenda.

Can I make a motion to approve the consent agenda?

Is there a second?

Many seconds.

All those in favor of the consent agenda, please say aye.

Opposed.

That motion carries, and we are on to announcements.

Just as a reminder, announcements are limited to the uh the recognition of city residents and employees, memorials, and non-political community events, discussion of matters related.

The governmental business is prohibited.

Albert Harman.

Yes, I would like to amend the speaker scene for the standing work as well as the sheriff's department, the police department, the fire department.

Um, for yesterday's um national night out.

I went to a couple of those events.

They went very well.

There were um uh vendors looking for the work, and there were vendors that were willing to donate time, food, and effort and to making it a success.

It made me proud of our community and our ability to engage and come together.

Um, so I just wanted to commend everyone involved in that, especially City of Racing and making a wonderful.

Well said, other mentions Alderman.

Thank you.

Uh first I'd like to recognize my grandsons tonight.

They are sitting in the back there, I who is nine years old.

They are the same age that my children were when I first got elected, and they my children used to sit in the front row of city hall.

And they my children used to sit in the front row of City Hall.

Um many many times.

So they have adding that role um seat to civic government.

I hope that uh it's a positive experience.

I'd also like to commend them for being so well behaved tonight and quiet, which is not something that I always get.

But uh I just wanted to recognize them.

Secondly, next Monday, my wife and I will be celebrating our 35th wedding anniversary.

So I would like to wish her a happy anniversary, and uh thank her for putting up with many, many years of public and community service.

Um my sympathies go out to the family of the young lady who drowned uh this past weekend.

I'll be attending that funeral on Friday, and uh my heart um breaks for for that family, and um they're going through a very difficult time.

And the last item I want to bring up is several months ago, a communication of all things um resulted in a robust debate and discussion about where an item would go.

Ultimately, that item went in public works and the finance committee, and it had to do with fixing the mom cemetery bouncing.

Well, we directed staff to find out what was wrong with the fountain and how much it would cost, and then we would see is there money internally to fix it or or not.

So it wasn't something that uh was like it came to us, and then they had it they had to do some research, but before they could finish doing their research, two gentlemen from the community stepped in and donated their time and materials, and they fixed that fountain in Mount Cemetery.

So our item was received and filed also with the directive that both the um commissioner of public works and the director of parks and recreation would send those to individuals a letter of thank you.

But I want to I don't know their names, I I apologize, but but I want to publicly thank them this evening for their work, and that is um Jody Waiting.

Oh no, right, their new time Richard Wagner and Jeff Harvey uh with Grimstead uh electrical engineering.

So I think that's really great when we can have these public-private partnerships.

It did not cost the city anything to fix it.

And um, these gentlemen stepped up, and I think that's just a wonderful thing.

When I was in government, I always uh did my best to develop public-private partnerships where you know there was some mutual benefit to it, and their benefit is they can feel good about it, being fixed, and then we have uh um a fountain that uh got done right away.

So thank you, gentlemen, for that.

Thank you.

Other announcements, Alderce.

Yes, also uh I'm totally in agreement with Alder Harmon.

Uh the staff did a name job on National Night Out.

Uh Maurice was there doing his thing, and uh several others were there as well.

A wonderful community event, one of the biggest ones locally in the state.

We're so excited that our community is really coming together to uh to work on this and to uh keep our community safe because it really does do that.

And so to our uh police officers that are there, firefighters are there, and all the other workers over there, and want to thank them as well for their great job, and especially uh received neighborhoods.

Watch and additionally, addition to that is my wife's birthday coming up, and uh she told me last time not to say how old she was, so I'm not gonna do that.

It's her birthday coming.

I would wish her a happy birthday.

All your hand.

Um thank you.

So I'm gonna piggyback off of Alder Harmon and Alder Moretta.

And uh yesterday was my first neighborhood watch, and I loved it.

I want to give a shout out to Shelly at Kenzie Corner.

She did an awesome job over there, and then to George Nix and Ke Shapor, what they did at Halo, if you all didn't go over there where they were cooking on the grill, we missed it.

Uh I also want to say that today was the or is the 16th anniversary of the Voters Right Act, and they had some wonderful events going on at the state capital, and I was able to attend that, and it was very, very educational.

And then on the last thing is on August 8th is Cynthia, David uh event that's going to be downtown on Main Street.

So that's going to be a great note to attend.

Are there actually all the cabinet?

Yes, uh, today is my one of my nieces.

I have a great.

I also have four kilometers this month, but they heard that later.

Um, and I just wanted to again offer knowledge for Johnny within their family.

Um, but also take a second to take you back off, picking back off big back and say that the night out was a really fantastic example of the good that we do have, the good that we can do.

So if there are people anyone wondering uh where the good is, where the sense of community is, I invite them next year to mark the date on their calendar for the night out and pull up because there's a lot of good going on, a lot of good people, a lot of smiles, smiling faces, kids on fire trucks, just all sorts of great things.

So kudos to everyone that made that happen in attendant.

Other announcements, Alder Davis.

Uh thank you.

I like us too.

One, I a shout out to all my fellow Leos whose birthday are coming up.

August Leo's second, um, a shout out to all our young entrepreneurs this summer.

I've seen a lot of little luminate and cooling stands.

They are out here finding out how to be an entrepreneur or business owner, and that they'd have to hustle in them.

I just want to shout them out.

Keep on, keep it up.

Other announcements in the second other one here.

I do want to say uh give a great thank you to Jody Wagner, the one that the person that approached Alderman, myself included in regards to the phone at Mount Emma Terry.

She recognized how important it is that they are operational.

The following is a reason that many, many people have bought cribs as the mom centers that's the crib surround the fountain.

She has uh several family members buried there and was determined by Hooker by Crook to get that fountain up and running.

So she did approach her husband, Sir Richard Wagner, and the um the electrical engineering manager, Bron Brewstead, I think on the Swiebs, uh Mr.

Jeff Harvey was able to get that bomb up and running.

And she wanted to give a special thank you to Tom Lolbeck as well, and uh Jacob Hurchett, who is the Cindy Perceived Cemetery Labor uh supervisor, and she just informed me today on my way in here that cemeteries getting the timer installed this morning, or it was to turn the old one foot out.

Everything else tested out fine.

The electrical switches were all reinstalled correctly, and the pump and the hydraulics and the parts are all to the OP festival fine.

So she says so.

Very thankful for my husband Rich Wagner and his coworker Jeff Hardy for their capabilities that found this one class weekend or my brand was dramatic of people very in cribs there.

So it's too long to think of um Joni for bringing us to our attention and getting that taken care of.

Yeah, just uh follow up on what uh Sam said I appreciate the Wagner State are very involved.

But we also have the cheapest burial sites and accessibility to crib for the whole camp.

So if you're meeting a place to die, there's a place to come get okay.

Any other announcements?

I'm done because I'm I'm done.

All right, generally we have everybody speak to you on any motion moving forward.

I'm just saying announcements.

Can we do it one and done?

But all the movies, please go.

Main gallery celebrated the 30th anniversary, they showcase in Boston this past week, and it was just amazing.

Um, I look forward to seeing the um man gather around for another 30 years.

It is awesome, all the work that they created.

The the bidding was like it was a big war.

So I just wanted to mention a shout out to the parks and rights departments tonight.

Yeah, absolutely.

Okay, seeing no other announcements.

I will say just a couple of things I wanted to mention.

I just wanted to echo Alder Pavone's sentiment.

We have differences of opinions.

There's a lot of really great things that happen in the community.

I just wanted to mention a couple of them.

First of all, if you were at National Night Out and you thought, wait, you were at National Out?

I didn't see you there.

It's because there's like 40 events across the city, right?

So that's kind of amazing.

I don't know of any other city that has that many locations for National Night Out.

Um, neighborhood watch estimated nearly 5,000 people from across the city attended those events.

That is extraordinary.

Uh I also wanted to give props to the main gallery event.

It was great.

They were at the branch, and it was just great to see young people excited about their art and the work that we do.

We are one of the very few communities in the country that have a paid position for young people to create art throughout the summer.

So it's a it's a unique thing and it was great.

Um we we renamed Bishop Kirby Lane with Alder Harman and other people's folks.

It was actually really great.

Um Pillar Health, uh the Federally Qualified Health Clinic opened this week officially at the ribbon cutting in Julian Thomas School.

So if you know people who are looking for access to a doctor or mental health care or a nurse practitioner, uh that facility is open now and is the advent of our preparation for the community center health clinic, which is going up if you drive by to see it getting done.

And uh the youth employment program concludes this week.

We have nearly 50 young people from this community, ages 16 to 24, interning in each of our departments this year.

That comes to a conclusion this week, but they did great work that exposes them to public sector careers and public safety and water and wastewater and public works and parks and everything in between.

And so we really appreciate the work that they did.

I do have one uh note in memorium.

I do want to adjourn in Teresa McMorris, a longtime family friend of ours.

She served on the CDPG advisory board for a time.

Um, but I've I've uh known Teresa and her family since she worked with my mom and parkside.

So going back to um my, I think in high school when I first met Teresa, and I will really miss her light and her enthusiasm.

So I wanted to adjourn tonight in her honor.

If there's nothing else, I would entertain a motion to adjourn.

Motion to adjourn.

Second.

All those in favor, please say aye.