1:33Good evening and welcome to the city council meeting for Tuesday, January 20th, 2026.
1:39We will begin with a roll call and determination of quorum.
2:02Obviously, you can tell we got someone on phoning in tonight, but we have a full quorum.
2:06Next, we will have an invocation by Brian McDaniel, followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
2:10If you're able and willing, would you please rise?
2:16Mayor, thank you so much on behalf of the Rapid City Community Ministers for allowing this honor and privilege.
2:22So would you join me in a word of prayer?
2:24Father God, we are so grateful for this time and this moment you brought our leaders together here in Rapid City.
2:30We're asking that you give them wisdom where wisdom is needed, discernment where discernment is needed.
2:35And Father God, as decisions are discussed and are made, we pray that it is done in the perspective and an attitude of love.
2:42We thank you for their service to our community, their teams that serve the Rapid City area, and we are grateful for the blessing that they are to us.
2:50So would you be their shield?
2:52Would you be their buckler?
2:53We ask tonight that the presence of your Holy Spirit be in this place as they look to make the best decision for our community, and we call them blessed in Jesus' name and amen.
3:35The agenda is adopted.
3:43So I'm going to invite them to come on up to the podium, and they're going to give us their annual update.
5:00Um Heidi is our vice chair, uh, Taryn is our secretary, Patricia behind me is our uh treasurer, and also we're uh Kathy uh back here is our social media and uh she does a fantastic job.
5:09They all do a great job.
5:10Um this is our committee.
5:12We are 12 uh full members and two alternates.
5:16We added five new members this year.
5:18I would like to give a thanks uh to some of the members that uh left our committee this year for various reasons.
5:24Callie is on the council, um, she was on the committee.
5:28We'd like to thank him for his service.
5:30Garth Wadsworth and Kelly Jewell are new members this year.
5:33You can see three of them in the photo there.
5:35Um let's see our Quinton, um, uh let's see, Quinton, Nicole, and Leah.
5:43Um, and we also uh changed our bylaws this year to have um two youth ambassadors.
5:49And so Ellie Palmer and Sophia Solway have joined us.
5:52That's a one-year term for high school students.
5:55We had one, uh, Olivia leave us last year.
5:57We loved her so much, we said we want two of you next year.
6:00So engaging the community, these are some of the activities that we participated in.
6:05This is not all of them.
6:06This always blows me away every year.
6:08I don't know how we get into all this much, but we have a big committee, and so we're able to do quite a bit.
6:12I would just want to make point out that a lot of the activities that we do as a committee are uh a request by our community.
6:19We get a lot of phone calls from the community and and say, you know, can the city work on this?
6:22Can the sustainability committee work on this?
6:24So a lot of these are uh demands of our community.
6:27Um, a couple of ones that I'd like to point out.
6:29We invited SDSU extension to do a master food preserver training.
6:34Uh we did that at Fork Real Cafe and trained up four local citizens in master food preserving.
6:40We also had a collaboration this year with the U City Council at the YFS Harvest Festival that was really successful.
6:47Um we also received a rotary grant that helped fund that uh food preservation education, and we also created a local uh flyer that uh we pass out at a lot of the events that we do that promotes uh local grocers and local growers of local foods in Rapid City.
7:03Um we also uh gave feedback on a couple of the community uh sorry, city plans, the EPA Climate and Pollution Reduction Grant.
7:11We participated in that and also the comprehensive plan.
7:15Um and now I am going to turn it over to Heidi, who is going to talk about our subcommittees and some of the other work that we did in 25 and what we're up to in 2026.
7:29So for the next couple slides, it's just going through a picture show of some of the events that we've had over the last year.
7:36So we have two subcommittees that we formed last year on sustainable growth and development and local and sustainable food supply.
7:43So to better address the community concern, we've done a few informal polls, a dot polls, and um during the events, people have overwhelmingly stated that they're interested for a local foods and backyard gardens, food preservation, and backyard hands.
8:00Um so to further address that with the help of Rotary, um, we did host a master food preserver class.
8:07All the participants in the class have agreed to host um food preservation classes over the coming year for the community.
8:16So for a local and sustainable food supply.
8:20Um we had multiple different meetings investigating the possibility of an indoor farmers market.
8:26We visited with local food experts, work to reduce food waste, and conducted a community needs assessment for community gardens.
8:35Um we toured Security First National Banks Green Building and recognize them for their outstanding effort with the sustainability award, and we contributed feedback to the Rapid State Comprehensive Plan and have started working with community planning and the water departments to better understand their concerns and to advocate more for public transportation.
8:57Some of our members of our and liaisons traveled to the growing sustainability sustainable communities conference in Iowa.
9:05We brought back some great information and strategies for improving the sustainability of our community, and we thank the city for supporting the participation in that um conference.
9:18The big event of the year for the Sustainability Committee is the Earth Day Expo.
9:23Um we hosted it again last year, co-hosted it at Western Dakota Tech with Western Dakota Tech, Dakota Rural Action and South Dakota School of Mines, despite a cold and blustery day.
9:36Um a thousand community members came to learn about resources within our community and to help them better care for the earth and to be more sustainable.
9:46In the coming year, we plan on highlighting the importance of water resources to our sustainable growth and development.
9:52This spring, we plan on making the Earth Day Expo even better than last year.
10:00We will be supporting classes on native gardening and food preservation, and we hope to see you at one of the events or activities.
10:04So thank you for your time.
10:06The community is welcome to join us on our meetings.
10:09Meetings are held just down the hall in City Hall at two on the second and fourth Mondays at 5 30 p.m.
10:16So we open the floor for questions.
10:20Thank you for the presentation.
10:21And I have no questions, so we appreciate the annual update, appreciate the frequent updates that you provide.
10:27Keep up the good work.
10:30Next, we will move on to general public comment, a time for members of the public to discuss or express concerns to the council on any issue not on the agenda.
10:38Action will not be taken at the meeting on any issue, not on the agenda, except by placement on the agenda by unanimous vote of the council members present.
10:46I do have a handful of speaker request forms for general public comment of others that are for items on the agenda later on in the meeting.
10:52But as a reminder, you have three minutes per person.
10:55So I will call a name and I'll also let the person who's on deck know so that they can get ready to go.
11:01So right over here where we have the presentations where you go, we will begin with Anthony Wright, followed by Jean Kesloff.
11:25My name is Anthony Wright.
11:27I'm a student at South Dakota School of Minds, and I serve on the Student Association Senate Governmental Relations Committee.
11:34As of January 12th, approximately 2,400 to 2500 students returned to campus for the spring semester, bringing students, faculty, and staff back into full academic activity after winter break.
11:48With students back on campus, there has been renewed engagement in campus and community focused initiatives.
11:55Earlier this month, we hosted a destination district or Liberty Land TIFF Community Information Forum on campus.
12:02This event was attended by roughly 100 to 200 people, including students and community members.
12:09The forum was designated as an informational QA, not a debate, with a goal of providing clear explanations of the proposal and allowing attendees to ask questions in a structured and respectful setting focused on transparency and education.
12:26I would like to thank Mr.
12:29Rapid City's Finance Director for attending the forum, answering questions and providing a clear financial overview of the Liberty Land TIFF.
12:38Later this month, approximately 20 South Dakota School of Mind students will travel to Pier to participate in students for higher education day or SHED.
12:48SHED is an annual statewide event organized through the South Dakota Student Federation, which represents students from all South Dakota Board of Regents institutions.
12:59During SHED, students will spend time in the state capitol, attending committee meetings, observing legislative sessions, meeting with legislators and state officials, and receiving formal recognition in both the House and Senate.
13:12The event is designated or is designed to educate students on the legislative process and to provide hands-on experience engaging with state government on issues affecting public higher education, including access, funding, and education quality.
13:30Overall Shed is a student-led civic engagement initiative that helps students understand how higher education connects with state policy and governance while representing their universities in a professional setting.
13:42Thank you for your time.
13:44I want to say it's very noticed how much the active uh the South South Dakota Mines Senate is, and we appreciate all that you're doing with the community efforts and keep up the good work.
13:54We have some great men and women in that.
13:56So uh Jean Kessloff, you're up next, followed by uh Rob Bunnell.
14:05Jean Kesslaff, Historic Rapid City.
14:08Well, it's happened again as Rapid City is celebrating its 150th birthday.
14:13It has seen to it that the neon signs from Rapid City's history have been damaged to where restoring them will be cost prohibitive.
14:21These signs, once impressive, drew the people to the businesses that created this successful community of Rapid City.
14:29The cultural heritage tourism, of which we are so proud, will soon be a thing of the past, and you will wonder where it went.
14:37Many cities are now focusing on preserving and restoring historic neon signs as cultural artifacts.
14:45Shouldn't these iconic items of our community deserve the same respect?
15:00Vintage neon signs, particularly those from the 1920s to the 1960s, are often highly sought after, but the true value of a neon sign is solely determined, is not solely determined by the aesthetic appeal, but also by its historical significance and the stories they tell.
15:18These signs could tell a lot of stories about the social, commercial, and economic development of Rapid City, the city you call home.
15:26Think stock growers.
15:29We ask you, what is the legacy that you all think seek to leave the people of Rapid City in this 150th celebration?
15:38How do you suggest we rectify the most recent desecration of our 150-year-old community?
15:46We have decided to leave you with one more issue to ponder.
15:50Not only do we not want our own history, we don't want anyone else's.
15:56In the 80s, Rapid City was gifted a total of 38 pieces of Western artwork by Joan Croc with the stipulation that she be kept informed about the progress of the Journey Museum, which was being built at the time.
16:09Rapid City and their infinite wisdom that they always seem to have did not do this.
16:15She pulled the author and the artwork went away.
16:18You all I have copies here for you, and so you know that this is true.
16:27Most of the collection has never been found, but one of the bronzes is in the Smithsonian.
16:32The other one was sold at Christie's Auction House for 1.4 million dollars.
16:41And Rapid City pissed it away.
16:45Ron, you're up next, followed by Michael Lucas.
16:59My name is Ron Bunnell.
17:00I'm Chapel Valley citizen.
17:02Been here for about since 1995.
17:06And uh I was I was gonna write uh you know, my comments and I've been writing so much here lately that uh I kind of run out of steam.
17:17Let me just say the uh reason I'm here today is because of our house, our home in Chapel Valley and what might lie ahead for our future.
17:27In October 2013, uh we had the Atlas Blizzard.
17:32And to give you an example of the kinds of things I've been doing, we are uh we are are we were out of electrical power for six full days.
17:39Many, if not most of the trees in the in the homeowners association where I live, Chapel Lane Village, uh, were all damaged.
17:47And then we did a full mitigation of 19 acres of of our own property out in the valley, and uh then we've uh been working on it ever since.
17:58Um this um I don't know if it's appropriate or not, Mr.
18:03Mayor, but I'd like to give this to each one of the the board members.
18:06We actually designed this in our own home uh when we started the task force, and that was in 2009.
18:14And to and at that time we were on an ad hoc committee with the mayor, mayor uh Alan Hanks, and the whole idea was to find another exit out of uh Chapel Valley.
18:25Uh regrettably, we never found another exit out of Chapel Valley.
18:29And uh so at this point in time uh we're we're stuck with you know the bridge that we have there.
18:35And uh I've been conducting meetings since October, uh the later later part of October about uh that I'm on a task force, and that's who designed this uh brochure.
18:48Uh in fact, I'm the uh the task force leader.
18:52And uh the whole idea is that we educate people on how to live in the and and survive in Chapel Valley.
19:01Um we're undergoing uh a lot of stress lately because we're we're not trying to figure out where the where we're gonna go with the bridge and all of that.
19:10I will have two more meetings next week.
19:13One on the 20th or two, excuse me, there's two of them on the 28th.
19:17Where we've been having the meetings, and they're open to anybody, uh, is at the old chop house.
19:22Uh the you know, the uh it's actually the the resort there.
19:27And then on that Wednesday, there's Thursday, the uh the uh 29th, we'll have a meeting basically for designing an evacuate an evacuation plan out of Chapel Valley when the big storm hits.
19:42And on uh one of the things I did with a group the other day was I asked them how many people live in Chapel Valley, and it's probably I'm not gonna ask you because we don't have time, we've got eight seconds.
19:53But eight uh the total number out there now right now, about six hundred and forty-five houses, something like 1400 people.
20:02Bunell, your time's up.
20:05And thank you for working with our staff on that issue.
20:07Obviously, it's a it's an important one.
20:09Lucas, you're up next, followed by Dale Nicola.
20:13Uh good evening, Mr.
20:15Uh, my name is uh Michael Lucas.
20:17I'm a retired Marine Lieutenant Colonel that just retired last year after serving 26 years in the greatest fighting force this nation has to offer.
20:24Um, I'd also like to preface that I would make graduate of the class of 98 at Rapid City Central.
20:31Um I plan to be a leadership figure in this community, so I'm I'm moving back here to get involved.
20:38Um I spent the last year uh as a and as a teacher at Lincoln High School, so I know that school system well.
20:45Um excuse the bluntness of this first comment, but I want to talk about the dumpster fire that exists at our public high schools in terms of graduation rate and academic performance.
20:55Um, as an example, Central High School has a 66% graduation rate and a 27% math proficiency rating.
21:02We can build all the fancy theme parks and sports complexes we want, but it's foolish to think that in today's society our public school system performance doesn't impact the growth of this city.
21:13I did some research into the current superintendent who was just hired, and I'm not a fan.
21:17She comes from a rural school system of maybe 4,000 students compared to the 14,000 plus that exists in our school system.
21:24Her accolades deal with CTE improvement, not graduation rate, and academic performance improvement.
21:30My daughter's a senior at Central High School, and she has told me about the lack of academic integrity that exists due to a lack of leadership in our school district.
21:39What are you all doing about this?
21:41And I would highly recommend picking up the phone and calling Dr.
21:44Noel over at Sioux Falls.
21:46And I want to end with this.
21:47Who's our Native American leadership on your team?
21:52Uh, next up, Dale Nicola.
21:54Hopefully we appreciate it.
22:00Hi, my name's Dale Nicola.
22:02Back in October 1st, I reported the city for its weeds.
22:11I would like to let everyone know the weeds were done.
22:15It was done on a Sunday, but it was done.
22:18It impressed me that they were out there on a Sunday doing them.
22:23Um the one thing that was the city's problem that they had problems with on the weeds was the fence line along the drainage ditch.
22:38I would like everybody to know I noticed immediately that the fence was done.
22:46And I would like to praise John Olson for doing a good job.
22:53The fence looks great.
22:56It makes the neighborhood, the park, everything look better.
23:03I don't want to harp on the things, so let's move on.
23:08I would like to talk with some people after the meeting.
23:17I would start with the city attorney, the mayor, parks department, sidewalk engineer, with sidewalk enforcement.
23:33I'm dealing with a traumatic brain injury at this time.
23:40And on top of this brain injury, I now have a concussion.
23:47We won't go into that because that's a long story, and I got three minutes.
24:05So many broke, we shouldn't have so many broken sidewalks, different height levels, missing pieces, and rebars sticking up from them.
24:18Yes, I have pictures at home.
24:22So it does you no good now to fix them, other than to fix them the way they should be.
24:30When uh I get done with this city, and you will see my face at as many meetings as I can make because of the concussion.
24:44It's been since October since I've been here.
24:48You will see my face.
24:50You will fix all the sidewalks to ADA legal aspects.
25:00And believe it or not, it's gonna cost this city a lot of money.
25:06So that concludes the general public comment, and we will move on to non-public hearing items two through 27 and open the public comment for items two through 21.
25:15I have no speaker request forms for those items, so we will close the public comment and move on to consent items two through 21.
25:21Would the council like to remove any items for separate consideration or approve the total ballots?
25:29All right, we got a motion by Tamang with a second by secrets to approve items two through 21.
25:40That takes us to the end of the consent items, and we will move on to non-consent items two through 27.
25:45And open public comment for items 22 22 through 27, excuse me.
25:50And the first speaker request form on item 24 is looks like Greg Stilton.
25:56And then followed by Kathy Thrash on item 27.
26:01Greg or at least I think that's what it says.
26:12Uh my name's Greg Stilton.
26:14I'm the owner of Rushmore Real Estate Group.
26:16And a multiple owner, property owner on Mount Rushmore Road.
26:19I'm commenting on item 24.
26:22Firstly, I'd like to thank the property owners who stood as one to reject the Rushmore Road bid resolution proposed by the mayor and the unelected committee known as Mount Rushmore Road Group.
26:34The committee is established, created by the mayor and the finance director known as Mount Rushmore Road Group per STCL 9556 is specific only to the bid which is now being voted down.
26:46As a direct result, the committee should be disbanded and have no further authority or ability to influence influence city council members and others on behalf of or for the property owners or the business owners.
26:59It's important to note that the Mount Rushmore Road Group Board never had standing to submit a proposal for a bid as it did not meet the minimum required standard per STCL 955.
27:13The board chairman is neither a property owner, a business owner, or a spokesperson for any direct businesses within the area designated.
27:23And to my knowledge, is not a resident of Rapid City or Pennington County.
27:28We expect the city council minutes to reflect the failure of the resolution and the dissolving of that committee.
27:35I would hope that in future, when the mayor and council seek to increase and amend or vary property taxes above and beyond the normal inflationary increases, that they seek buy in in future from the parties directly impacted by those increases and not some unofficial social media group with no real fiscal involvement.
27:55Moreover, when establishing any committee that they in future follow the clear guidelines as established under the South Dakota codified laws.
28:14Next up is Kathy Thrash, followed by Dan Malale.
28:20Hello, City Council.
28:21Thank you for hearing my um my opinion here.
28:25I'm um talking about number 27, the Backyard Hands Ordinance.
28:29So I would like to um mention that I am a member of the Standing Committee of Sustainability since 2020, and I am active with the Rapid City Hands and the Rapid City Citizens for Urban Hands.
28:42I'm this doing social media, have been doing lots of meetings with the people that are involved with this.
28:48And I just want to say that I support the the way that it is written now.
28:52I know there's been a lot of contention and disagreement in it, and I agree that some of those uh past ordinances were probably not the best, but I believe that this um crew has done their homework and addressed a lot of those concerns.
29:07Um now I must say too that I do own some business property in the city, but I'm not currently within the city limits residing, so I cannot vote on this.
29:16But I have had the benefit of my neighbors that have hands.
29:20And I gotta say, um moving out and within the last couple of years.
29:26Um I've made really good connections with my neighbors that I don't think would have happened before had I not heard that they had hands and I could get local um sustainable um better tasting, better nutritious eggs from them, and so it made me reach out to them, and I believe um it created a sense of community that might not have been there before.
29:45Um I gotta say it just feels right to me to have this in place to let other those that are in the city limits can do this.
29:53Um I believe that it would bring um a lot of I don't know, it brings to me a sense of security as far as like they're just right there.
30:01Um and in this kind of chaotic madness of of situation with high prices and just kind of I don't know, it just seems a lot right now to have everything right there would be really nice.
30:12So I would support the ordinance.
30:14I hope you guys do too.
30:15And I am active in the petition.
30:17I understand I'm learning a lot about government process and how this all works as well.
30:22But um I understand that to bring it to a ballot and a vote and all of that would be a lot more um a lot more involved with that.
30:28So I would ask for your support um for the ordinance and moving that forward.
30:34Malale, you're up next, followed by Darla Drew.
30:42My name is Dan Millally, live in Rapid Valley.
30:46And I'm with the wannabe hobby beekeepers club.
30:51And I also have chickens out there.
30:53I'm in the valley, so we're allowed to, but I wanted to kind of draw a parallel between what the beekeepers went through and maybe what the hen people are going through.
31:06Before 2015, honey bees were considered.
31:10Well, honeybees were not allowed in Rapid City for several years, and um a lot of us beekeepers got together and eventually an ordinance was passed in 2015 to turn that around.
31:23And as far as I know, after that was done, there were no negative effects from honey bees in the city.
31:32Another point, I grew up in St.
31:35They allowed honey bees there.
31:38My dad had them in the backyard.
31:40And so we that was one of the arguments I made is that Rapid City needs to consider what other big cities have successfully done.
31:49And I'll in parallel to that.
31:52Paul allows chickens, so I think it's time for Rapid City to allow hands in in the city limits.
32:02Uh next up is Darla Drew, followed by David Holland.
32:10Um, I'm Darla Drew, citizen of Rapid City.
32:14I haven't seen you guys in a long time.
32:15Um served on council from 2014 to 2022.
32:20So I'm here tonight to support the backyard hen ordinance that you're considering.
32:26I know that you don't have anything really carved out yet for that particular ordinance.
32:32Um I brought the backyard hen issue up several times while on council.
32:39Um, and yeah, we had some work to do, and I hope that you guys will get this done.
32:45It's it's it'll just come back.
32:48Um it's time this get done.
32:52I know it, and I think you guys know it too.
32:55This is something the city wants, and they can handle it.
33:02Just give them a chance to to see if this will work out for our city.
33:06I think it'll be more beneficial than you can imagine.
33:09And so I was ahead of my time, what can I say?
33:12But it is it is time now.
33:15And so I hope that you'll give this your best thoughts, and that uh that you'll trust the people of Rapid City to obey what what you come up with and and think about the repercussions or good things that can come from owning backyard hens.
33:33And that's it from me.
33:35So thank you for serving.
33:37I know it's not easy, I know it takes a lot of time, and I just want to thank you for all the time that you spend on our great city.
33:46Holland's up next, followed by Jerry Owens.
33:50Hi, uh, my name is David Holland.
33:52Um, I live in the West Boulevard neighborhood, and um I just want to start by saying that I also am the president of the West Boulevard Neighborhood Association, and I do feel a lot of complaints about uh issues in the neighborhood, and I am perfectly willing to field complaints if we do have any regarding chickens.
34:08Um, and so I feel a little bit of your pain.
34:11I know you guys uh feel uh concerns or complaints, whether you want to call it that, uh, to our community.
34:17So I I want to give a little bit of background.
34:19I hope some of the other people can speak to the benefits of uh backyard hands.
34:22I think there are many.
34:23Um first of all, this uh obviously has been considered a couple of times by city council, the last time in 2020.
34:30Um, and so we went back as a group, I'm part of the group that has uh put together a petition drive to put this on the ballot in June.
34:38Um what we did over a year ago is we watched all the city council meetings, we read all the minutes, we took we wrote down the issues that people had, why it didn't pass the last time, and I'm just gonna say them right now.
34:50Uh there wasn't a smooth process figured out with the Humane Society what to do with chickens if they ended up with them.
34:55There were concerns related to noise, smell, and disease, and there were concerns about poor communication with city staff.
35:02So we wrote those down and we said, okay, we have our work to do.
35:05So one of the first things we did was we went we went with the Humane Society, and I have met with the main society at least a half a dozen times over the last uh six to nine months.
35:14Um and we worked out a plan uh which basically is similar to what a lot of other communities.
35:18There are more than two dozen communities in South Dakota that allow backyard hands, and I've spoken to about eight or ten of their animal control officers, and I asked what they did.
35:27I also provided contact information to our human humane society so that they can reach out to those animal control officers so they feel comfortable if we did allow backyard hands what that would look like.
35:37Umise, smell, and disease.
35:39We actually added some language to the ordinance that was considered in 2020 to address these.
35:44Umise is kind of already uh covered.
35:47There are no roosters allowed.
35:49We added a clause in there that if animal control can smell it from your neighbor's property, you're in violation.
35:54That was a common uh stipulation that we saw in other ordinances.
35:58Umly one of the animal control officers that I talked to actually had that complaint.
36:03They issued a citation and that owner had it cleaned up uh within the 72-hour time frame, and it wasn't a problem again.
36:10Um the last one disease, we spoke with the veterinarian for the Black Hills Humane Society.
36:14The only one he was concerned with was avian flu, bird flu, right?
36:18And he said as long as they're in the coop at night and that they're not roaming around the streets of our city, there shouldn't be any danger of that.
36:25Um so we did try to address all of those.
36:28Um let's see, I'm just gonna name Sioux Falls, Spearfish, Hot Springs, Leeds, Vermilion, Aberdeen, Brandon, Watertown, Yankton, Whitewood, Madison.
36:36Those are some of the cities in South Dakota that have had um ordinances for backyard hens and allowed them for a long time.
36:42Um Rapid Valley, as uh Dan mentioned earlier, uh has allowed them, which is also under the jurisdiction of the Humane Society, so they've actually already been dealing with chickens uh for quite some time.
36:52So thank you for your time.
36:54Uh Jerry Owens, you're up next, and that will conclude public comment.
37:01Actually, I'm Patty Pate.
37:03Jerry Owens is my husband, and the cat got his hearing aids, so I'm gonna speak for him tonight.
37:08All right, we'll allow it.
37:11Um Jerry is a hobby beekeeper and has started um the hobby beekeeping club here in Rapid City has been very successful.
37:21We went through the whole ordinance for um getting beekeeping allowed in Rapid City, and at that time I remember the chicken lady coming and supporting us in our effort.
37:36It was when Sam Koiker was mayor.
37:41Um and I feel that this is just a perfect timing to have a sustainability um annual report when we're talking about hens, backyard hens in Rapid City.
37:53It just goes hand in hand.
37:55As beekeepers family, we have been very successful in making the public aware of responsible beekeeping and what we can do for the for the community.
38:08And it just seems like the same opportunity should be given to people who want hands.
38:17I know I like fresh eggs.
38:20Um I just we're here to support the backyard hands.
38:28That will conclude the public comment, and we will now move on to item 22.
38:33First reading of ordinance number 6702, an ordinance amending section 17.06 of the Rapid City Municipal Code, a request by City of Rapid City for rezoning requests from public district to heavy industrial district for property trying to described as being located at 5055 South Highway 79.
38:53Got a motion by Roberts with a second by layman to approve.
39:02First reading of ordinance number 6703, an ordinance amending section 17.06 of the Rap City Municipal Code.
39:09A request by Tui Design Group for Watershed Development 2 LLC for rezoning requests from no use district to look low density residential district two for property trile described as being located north of the northern terminus of Cloud Peak Drive.
39:25Motion by Roberts with a second by Secrets to approve.
39:32Item 24, approved the Mount Rushmore Road Business Improvement District.
39:37Before we have any conversation on that, the city attorney has an update for us.
39:44This is a continuation of the public hearing on the creation of the Mount Marshall Road uh business improvement district.
39:50At the hearing at the last meeting, a petition was submitted by the property owners within the district.
39:57Uh we've had a chance to look at that.
40:00Believe there are sufficient signatures of the property owners within the district that pursuant to state statute.
40:05The only option for the council at this point is to acknowledge that sufficient landowners have submitted a petition to protest creation of the district and therefore terminate the hearing and not create the district.
40:21Okay, we got a motion.
40:24What's your what's your motion?
40:27All right, thank you.
40:28Just want to make sure.
40:30Don't want to put words in your mouth.
40:31So we have a motion to terminate this, followed by a second by Roberts.
40:35Councillor Temang, you have the floor.
40:38I think this all worked out the way it was supposed to be, and I appreciate the property owners coming forward.
40:43I just wanted to make a quick note that the Mount Rushmore Road Group and Deborah Jensen, I think had the highest intentions with this.
40:50And I think their um their hope was to make the area better.
40:53And I do acknowledge and appreciate what they did to try to help.
41:00Uh so the motion on the floor is to terminate uh this item.
41:10Item 25, a request by baseline surveying inc for Mike Sojin for preliminary subdivision plan for proposed lot one of Sojin Edition, generally described as being located southwest of the intersection of Country Road and Three Rivers Drive.
41:24The recommendation is to approve of stipulations.
41:29Got a motion by Roberts with a second by layman to approve of stipulations.
41:36I 26, a request by baseline surveying Inc.
41:39for Rapid Creek Land Development LLC for preliminary subdivision plan for proposed lot one and lot two of Rapid City Creek, a Rapid Creek subdivision, generally described as being located at 23275 Radar Hill Road.
41:53The recommendations to approve of stipulations.
41:58Motion by Pettigrew, second by Evans to approve of stipulations.
42:06Item 27, a request by Alderman Teming that the city council directs city staff to bring forward an ordinance legalizing the keeping of chickens on residentially zoned properties in Rapids City.
42:18And with that, we'll go to Councilor Temang.
42:22I would move to approve, and if I can get a second, I'd like to hold the floor.
42:25We got a motion by Temang with a second by Secrets to approve.
42:28The floor is yours, sir.
42:30I uh I can't speak to any of the points better than Mr.
42:33Holland and some of the other uh commenters, so thank you for doing that.
42:36I just had um a couple of quick points on this.
42:40Um I think that the ordinance that was written by the group, I compared it to as many of the ordinances as I could find and tried to make sure that it was aligned with what seemed to be working well in other communities, and there's a lot of them, as they pointed out, and I found the ordinance as written to be really um quite well quite well done.
43:02And um, there's some areas I think uh director Fisher brought up some stuff that was excellent, and I think uh Mr.
43:08Lendine said he was going to speak with the Humane Society, so I think we can fine-tune it a little bit, but I think the vast majority of it's ready to go, and I'm excited to see it through.
43:16Um I I've gotten so many comments to the affirmative on this, it's exciting, and so that was probably the main reason I brought it through.
43:23And then the other thing is I I got one comment that I want to bring up.
43:26Actually, a couple people said the same thing, and I I think it's a little um maybe it's the sign of the times, but a few people mentioned that they're doing it because organic eggs now cost six or seven dollars for a dozen, and people can't afford it, and they got a bunch of kids, and it's it's meaningful to them.
43:42So I think on that front, we don't necessarily always think about that, but I think that's another important thing to consider.
43:48So um I appreciate everyone's support on this.
43:53Thank you, Councillor Strowman.
43:56I just wanted to say that I received a lot of emails, telephone calls, and comments from constituents and uh people generally in the community, and I just appreciate that the community is being engaged.
44:09Um, I do read all of those, and I do answer the I listen to the voicemails, and uh even if I didn't get back to somebody, that doesn't mean I didn't read it because I did.
44:21There's plenty of them in my inbox, and I've read them all.
44:23And I just thank you for offering me your opinions on these things.
44:33Uh similar to what Mr.
44:34Scrowman said, um, there's been a lot of correspondence coming from constituents about this, and right now I can say it's probably 20 to 1 in favor of chickens.
44:47Now, the last time we voted on this, I would say those numbers were reversed, and I don't know whether it's just because it hasn't been up for public discussion yet, but it's looking like uh we're probably gonna have to allow the citizens to do what they're asking for.
45:02Um so if the people are in opposition, they need to mobilize themselves and let us know because I believe the council is um willing to do whatever the citizens want for this, and it's looking like it's a very favorable thing right now.
45:14So um that's all I have to say.
45:20Any other comments on this?
45:22Councilor Pettigrew.
45:27I really don't have any skin in this game.
45:29I really don't care if there's chickens or not.
45:33Um, but I do have some comments to make.
45:36Uh like uh Councilman Strowman and and Councilman Evans has said, we got a lot of emails, and I told David Holland he called me the other day, and we had a long discussion about this, and I said I'm gonna vote simply on who I get the most emails from, pro or against.
45:54So to David's credit, he must have gotten all the pro-chicken people on it, and I got a lot of emails.
46:01But shortly after David and I talked, I got a negative comment, and I said same thing.
46:06Whoever gets me the most emails.
46:08You would not be surprised how many negative comments I got.
46:12In fact, David, I can show you all my tallies, the nose one.
46:17And um I just think this group, and and like I say, I don't care.
46:23Dave, you could have them.
46:25You live two houses from me.
46:28But I think the group should go and create a ballot and put it before the city.
46:33Let the citizens decide.
46:34Why are us 10 people trying to decide this?
46:37I that doesn't make sense to me.
46:38Let the people of Rapid City decide.
46:40I think that would be the best way to address this.
46:45But I just like to make a coup couple comments.
46:48My wife has a good friend who raises chickens, and uh she sent my wife a long email uh today about it.
46:57And I I've heard often from those four groceries are high.
47:02I I think they they think they're gonna go to the bank and save a lot of money.
47:08You gotta buy chickens, you gotta buy feed, you gotta build a chicken coop.
47:13There are other expenses, and you aren't gonna save any money on this.
47:19I think it's acute, warm, fuzzy feeling.
47:24That's great, but but don't distort it with the cost of food and you're gonna save uh a a lot of money.
47:30That's just not gonna happen.
47:33Um long time ago, when I was young, dumb and stupid, I uh had a wood-burning stove and I was gonna put MDU out of business by burning wood.
47:46And I went and bought a six hundred dollar chainsaw.
47:49I went and bought a $30,000 pickup.
47:52How long do you think the payback was on that?
47:55I mean, I soon learned that was a stupid idea.
47:58And I think the same thing has to be done with these chickens.
48:01You are not gonna save money.
48:03And I just don't have confidence in the citizens of Rapid City, not all of them, but they are gonna be responsible in maintaining these pens.
48:15Um code enforcement has their hands full, and they're not responsible for this.
48:20They'll get the calls.
48:22The call should go to animal control, not code enforcement.
48:25But code enforcement has enough problems trying to keep antique cars off the street that don't run, weeds off the street, all sorts of other issues, and I think this is just gonna be an additional burden to code enforcement because they'll get the calls.
48:42I've been told that the uh animal control slash humane society has two people for the entire city.
48:49I don't know if that's correct or not.
48:52So I I j I just think if we're gonna implement this, uh probably us as a council or city has to do some some discussion on how we are gonna control all this, because not all citizens are gonna be good henkeepers, and there's gonna be problems, and how are we gonna address those?
49:12That's the end of my comments.
49:15Uh I do have uh Callie Meyer on the line who would like to say a few words.
49:19Uh Callie, there's a brief delay, so she'll get on to just a moment.
49:25Um I uh just wanted to say that like I am out of town this week, and I think I was originally planning on just being absent from this meeting, but had received an overwhelming amount of communication in support of this.
49:39Um I truly received three pieces of opposition to probably 30 in favor, and so we do go by the logic of uh who is the most supportive.
49:50I I felt like I had to uh make the uh phone call meeting work because I really needed to cast my vote in support of it because of the amount of outreach that we heard from constituents, and so I will be voting in the affirmative if there's a delay.
50:05If there's a delay, I apologize.
50:07I just I want to make sure it gets counted as the affirmative.
50:10So uh with that I yield.
50:12Thank you, Councillor Meyer.
50:14I have no counselor Cris, you have the you have the floor mail.
50:19Thank you, uh Mayor.
50:20I just wanted to add in that um this motion today is to bring forward an ordinance for consideration, and so I think this is a great time for all of us, uh potentially as a group um to get together to work through some of the concerns.
50:37Um the the crew that's worked on this for the last decade has done a great job of vetting concerns over the years, and I want to just acknowledge the effort that's gone into that, and thank you for bringing that forward um the way in which you did.
50:51Um, but to um Alderman Pettigrew's concerns with um handling the concerns, he's absolutely right.
50:58There will be issues and there will be people um that aren't maintaining their hens as we see um historically with other animals, and it I doubt that it's gonna be a super common occurrence because it is uh an investment to establish um a coup and maintain and um but there will be um you know opportunities for things to go south, and so I think we do need to vet through that and look at that at the ordinance and I know I mentioned this at legal finance, but I am a big proponent of this ordinance with a 10-foot property line setback requirement, um, just so that we can uh potentially ease any potential conflicts between neighbors in close proximity.
51:44Um and just that I myself, my property abuts two rental properties on both sides, and um could just see how easily a worst-case scenario could um could transpire.
51:55So I'll be supporting this and look forward to seeing the ordinance brought forward and uh for their discussion on this um item.
52:04Any other discussion from council members?
52:07If I may then uh just add a couple of comments before we get to a vote.
52:11I've been asked many times if I would sign this or uh if an ordinance passed or I would veto it.
52:16Uh I would sign it so long as we have protections for uh the neighboring properties to this.
52:25Um, but I also believe it's a bit of a property rights issue for the people that are on board.
52:30Um so I think those are the two things that always weigh is there's a property rights issue to kind of do what you want on your property, so long as it doesn't negatively impact your neighbors.
52:41So with the ordinance, if it passes, I would just urge that uh we have our staff really look into that to make sure that that we write a tight ordinance.
52:51Um the reason I would sign it, it really goes back to when we had supply chain issues and we saw empty shelves and grocery stores, and um that really struck with me uh at that time and made me really think about the local food initiatives, which is something uh the sustainability committee is uh worked on, and I appreciate that.
53:11And I told them that was near and dear to my heart with gardens and having access to local foods in case we have shortages.
53:18How do we feed people?
53:19Uh just a thing I think about.
53:21I know that's kind of weird, but I think that's just our job.
53:25Um, and while it's not necessarily my responsibility to feed people, I do think allowing people to uh grow their own food and so perhaps provide a a healthy source of protein and those sorts of things can be good.
53:37I do have concerns I think were brought up.
53:39I think those are very wise words uh from some of the council members regarding enforcement, regarding uh upkeep and care, uh regarding the the really the caretaking of the hens, um, ensuring we have no roosters, uh those sorts of things.
53:54I think there's a lot there to consider, but we are not reinventing the wheel here.
53:59A lot of communities have done this, and uh I think all of that if it's a reasonable and responsible ordinance, um I could I could get behind it.
54:09So I I appreciate giving the the staff an opportunity to craft something that uh might even be more tight than the ones that's going to the vote.
54:18But if you decide to take it to the vote, then the people will decide, and of course, that's you know that that's an option for you as well.
54:24So um just thought I'd throw that out there.
54:27I'd lots of lots of feedback on this, and I'd say it's pretty been pretty split uh to me, but uh my third third time on this one, I think.
54:37Um pretty interesting.
54:39So it's kind of deja vu all over again.
54:41But I would the vitriol is not nearly as bad this time, which is kind of nice.
54:45So uh but maybe uh John laughs, so maybe he has a different experience.
54:50And so John, I would love to hear about that experience.
54:52Would you mind taking some time to explain it?
54:55No, I was gonna say I I think this is my fifth time on this.
55:00No, I was gonna say I I think this is my fifth time on this, so uh, and you know, I I spoke to the chicken group at the very beginning of this and said let's get it on the ballot and get people to vote on it.
55:10Um we we could have put it to bed, I think.
55:15You may have had to be like the civic center and vote on it two or three times before you got it passed if you got it passed.
55:21Um I do know that I've got more a different experience than most people.
55:28I get a lot of the people that are worried about their neighbors not maintaining and taking care of them.
55:37Um of these people because they've had negative experiences with people that already had chickens.
55:44Um I personally have been involved in cleaning up two properties where people moved and had chickens that didn't take care of them well, um, and it can be a total total mess if you don't take care of them.
56:00Um I've had a lot of people because of the fact that this has been ongoing for over a decade, um, that are very much against it, and it was interesting because I did talk to a few people today, and they were shocked that the majority of people that have talked to me have been against it, and I think a lot of it has to do with again neighborhoods.
56:25I think a lot of it has to do with social economic, you know, status where you you know, I mean, if you can afford, because I personally know somebody that's got like a $20,000 chicken coop for their chickens, you know, they can afford that.
56:41And you know, again, six chickens for anybody that has been around chickens.
56:48Uh I spent a lot of time around livestock when I was younger, too much time.
56:55That's why I live in the city.
56:57Um, but six chickens is not gonna feed a family.
57:03You might feed them for a week after you kill and eat the chickens, but the eggs aren't gonna feed a family for a full week.
57:11So, and you know, that's been one of my concerns too is these these become pets, and chickens do not lay eggs forever, and it's really hard to kill your pet.
57:22So your pet's got to go somewhere, and it's even harder to kill and eat your pet.
57:27So, you know, that's why people on the ranch really don't make friends of their pets because they know eventually they're gonna eat them.
57:36So, anyway, I think that there's just a lot of there's a lot of issues that this brings up to a lot of my constituents, and I I just have a different look at it than I think a lot of other people do because of the people that bring forward their concerns, you know.
57:52And I had somebody that I was talking to a couple of days ago about it.
57:57They're concerned about their cats, because they live in a neighborhood that has a lot of cats, and they're worried about their cats getting into somebody's chickens and the liability and what's gonna happen.
58:07And I mean, there's just there's a lot of aspects to it.
58:10We we hear a lot of negative and positive.
58:14Um, you know, ideally, if it passes, I hope everything's fantastic and it all works out fine.
58:21Um in the real world, that doesn't happen.
58:24There's always gonna be issues one way or another.
58:26Um, you know, I and I'll be blunt, I'm gonna vote no on it again.
58:33I don't think there's anything anybody could ever convince me into voting yes on it, especially after voting no, I think I said five times, four or five times so far.
58:43Um, and I've been pretty consistent on this council.
58:46If I vote no on something or yes on something, you usually do that.
58:51So I just wanted to make it clear my point where I'm at, you know.
58:56Um you can call me and we can talk about it, but you're not gonna change my mind.
59:02So I just want to let you know that.
59:04So anyway, thank you.
59:10I think I think this is a good uh, you know, I like this issue's a good issue because I think you hear great points on all sides, and I I think that that's good, and I think everybody here wants what's best for Rapid City, and I appreciate those points as well, John.
59:24Um Kevin Maher is now in the queue.
59:27Just allow more time for people to chime in.
59:29No, I would just like to call for the vote, please.
59:33So we're gonna do a roll call vote with this, and uh the motion on the floor is to direct staff to craft an ordinance to bring back to the council.
59:41So tonight they are not approving whether we allow hands, they are simply directing staff to craft an ordinance to then make that decision.
59:49So with that, uh Heidi, let's go to a roll call vote, please.
1:00:14Motion passes six to four.
1:00:18We'll work on that.
1:00:18We'll get that back to you in the near future.
1:00:22Thank you, everyone.
1:00:23Uh now we will move on to non-public, or excuse me, to public hearing items 28 through 33 and open the public hearing for items 28 through 33.
1:00:32I have no speaker request form, so we will close the public hearing and move on to consent public hearing items 28 through 32.
1:00:40Would the council like to move remove any item for consideration?
1:00:45We have a motion by Roberts to approve the re uh all of the consent items with a second by Bieberdorf.
1:00:55That takes us to the end of the consent public hearing calendar.
1:00:58We will move on to non-consent public hearing item number three, 33, excuse me.
1:01:03Approve resolution 2026-002.
1:01:07A request by Tui Design Group for Watershed Development 2 LLC for a petition for annexation for property generally described as being located north of the northern terminus of Cloud Peak Drive.
1:01:19Motion by Roberts with a second by Tamang.
1:01:26Next we're going to go to the bill list.
1:01:27Before we do that, uh Councilor Petigrew would like to make a few remarks.
1:01:35I just think we're we're going into some extremely difficult economic times, and I would ask that all departments look at their travel requests prior to making those and reviewing uh today's bills.
1:01:50I'm not putting anyone under the gun here, but I noticed uh the fire department sent some people to some training.
1:01:58And um I just think we gotta slow down the process of sending people everywhere.
1:02:06And there's been discussion amongst a few of us on the council that maybe before we uh go to uh conferences and training, maybe we should have those departments come before us and tell us what it's about, and then when they get back from that after the first council meeting, report to us and let us know what they learned.
1:02:26I just think the city has to tighten their belt.
1:02:29Uh in my business, we have a conference every year, and um we normally send several people, and this year we didn't.
1:02:39Business is tough economically, the country's in tough shape, and I think we need to slow down.
1:02:46And I'm just asking all departments to really consider before they sign the dot align to send someone someplace.
1:02:54Can you do it virtually?
1:02:55Can you do it by Zoom?
1:02:59And I would just like some justification from all uh employees before they go.
1:03:04Come before the council, come before someone, and let us know where you're going, what it's gonna cost, and what are the benefits to the city?
1:03:15All right, with that we'll go to item 34, the bill list for Main Street Square and visit Rapid City to actually I need to let the finance director say all that.
1:03:23Will you chime back in there, Daniel?
1:03:26I was gonna do your job for you.
1:03:27Finance director Daniel Ainsley.
1:03:31Uh the bill is for Main Street Square and visit uh Rapid City total $80,062 and 27 cents tonight.
1:03:42I apologize that I was being spoken to.
1:03:45Who made the motion and second?
1:03:50Okay, we got a motion by C Chris with a second by Tamang to approve item 34.
1:03:57Motion carries with one abstention from Councillor Meyer.
1:04:01Uh item 35 will return to uh Daniel Ainsley.
1:04:06The remaining uh bills totaled 12,822,368.
1:04:15Do we have a motion by Roberts with a second by Cris?
1:04:21I I did have a request real quick from Councillor Strowman.
1:04:24Uh to Director Tice.
1:04:27We looks like we have a street closure uh on Cross Street that maybe just to let folks know about uh yes that is correct.
1:04:37We had a request from the railroad, they've got some damage out there to an arm, so they requested to close the street tomorrow morning at nine o'clock.
1:04:44Okay, and cross cross street, cross street, that's which um connects uh both Omaha and West Main Maine.
1:04:53Yeah, so very heavily used street.
1:04:56So thank you for that.
1:04:58Uh with that, I will entertain a motion to adjourn.
1:05:02We got a motion by Tamang with a second by Maher to adjourn.