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Red Wing City Council Workshop on 2027 Preliminary Operating Budget - August 3, 2026

City Council — Monday, August 3, 2026
BodyRed Wing, Minnesota
SessionCity Council
DateMonday, August 3, 2026
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Speaker 1

0:01

It's 5 30.

0:03

I'm gonna call our council workshop 2017 budget workshop to order on August 3rd.

0:10

And I appreciate everyone who's come here.

0:12

I want to thank ahead of time the finance team who's done a lot of work.

0:16

I know that on this budget, as well as the other um department chiefs who have also worked on this very hard tonight.

0:24

Um Janie Fair is attending remotely and um Vicky Joe will not be able to attend as she is not feeling well.

0:32

So I'll call this meeting to order and I look to our finance team to kick it off for us.

Speaker 2

0:37

We're actually going to turn it over to Chris to do a welcome and uh

Speaker 3

0:41

perfect.

0:42

Thank you.

Speaker 2

0:42

Chris.

Speaker 3

0:43

I should have mentioned that this morning when we spoke, but um good evening council uh Vice President Snyder, I guess, uh and uh council members.

0:52

Um before the presentation begins, as you mentioned, I wanted to definitely acknowledge um the staff involvement in this process.

0:58

Um, it really started even prior to our CIP workshop this year, and um definitely a dedicated process for the CIP workshop that took place in early June, and then over the summer months.

1:10

Um, many dedicated meetings from each department coming forward to bring it together in a collaborative effort, following um involving every department.

1:20

Um, both looking at service needs, reviewing priorities, examining some of the revenues and expenditures or all of the revenues and expenditures, and working together to build to develop a budget that is both physically responsible and responsive to the needs of the community.

1:34

Um

Unassigned speaker

1:35

the

Speaker 3

1:35

workshop tonight is uh intended to provide an overview of the proposed preliminary 2027 budget and property tax levy, the proposed levy, along with an opportunity for discussion among council members before that is actually adopted in September.

1:52

Um, it presents what staff believes are responsible and uh reasonable financial plan for 2027,

Unassigned speaker

2:00

uh

Speaker 3

2:00

maintains the high level of services the residents expect and funds some of our or all of our prior commitments, both the bond

Unassigned speaker

2:07

uh

Speaker 3

2:08

debt service payments and and other commitments involving infrastructure and um also addresses the city's strategic initiatives and priorities.

2:17

So I would just want to point one other thing out as you read through the actual uh staff report that was published last week.

2:26

The last page of that staff report includes um both some questions for you to consider and then some potential additions to the uh actual preliminary budget as well as some

Unassigned speaker

2:38

uh

Speaker 3

2:38

potential cuts or or um options for for reductions.

2:43

Those are also included in the PowerPoint presentation at the end of the presentation.

2:48

So most of the presentation are will be really more than the meat in the sandwich, and then we'll get to some of those uh higher level thoughts and comments at the end, and I'll kind of help

Unassigned speaker

2:59

you

Speaker 3

3:00

go through those at as we get to that point.

3:02

But feel free to address questions as you move forward through the the presentation if they're specific to those slides, but just know that we'll we'll talk about each of those specific uh areas in the the last page of the agenda packet towards the end of the presentation.

Speaker 2

3:20

Thank you, Chris.

Unassigned speaker

3:21

Yep,

Speaker 2

3:21

and if I can I'll just echo a lot of what Chris said appreciate you guys taking time out of beautiful Monday to spend here to talk about budget, and I've happened to glance behind

Unassigned speaker

3:32

me,

Speaker 2

3:32

and I appreciate the public's input, the public's attendance, and uh you know this is their budget at the end of the day, so look forward to presenting with that.

3:42

I am gonna turn it over to Mr.

3:44

Tony Schultz.

3:45

Yep, I'll be the

Unassigned speaker

3:47

I'll

Speaker 4

3:48

be the last one to say thank you, council members and mayor, for being here tonight for this important workshop.

3:53

This is a good kickoff to um providing the information initially here to get uh budget adopted for 2027.

4:01

Um, and then also thank you to all the city staff who've contributed over the last couple of months.

4:06

It started before the CIP workshop in June, but we've had several meetings and a whole host of city staff have provided information over the past couple months to compile all of this information that we're presenting to you tonight.

4:22

Um so just a quick overview of where we're at.

4:25

Uh as has been mentioned on June 1st, we had a five-year CIP budget meeting that presented information for the years 2027 through 2031.

4:38

Um, and then we're at our initial city council budget workshop here.

4:43

There's several more opportunities throughout the budget process, uh, including later this month when there's

Unassigned speaker

4:50

a

Speaker 4

4:50

workshop presenting information on a benefit study, as well as us providing more follow-up as part of the regular meeting.

5:01

In September, we will be approving a preliminary city, port authority, and HRA levy,

Unassigned speaker

5:08

and

Speaker 4

5:08

then we'll be scheduling the public hearing to occur.

5:12

That's the formerly known as Truth and Taxation meeting in December.

5:17

We'll have an additional dedicated workshop at the beginning of November to provide some more information and updates.

5:25

And then in December, we'll have the truth in taxation public hearing, as well as adopting a 27 budget and levy at the regular council meeting in December.

Unassigned speaker

5:40

This

Speaker 4

5:40

is just a graphic that I think sums up what we're doing here as part of the budget process.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Budget Equity Analysis█████████████████████████████████████████████54%
Fiscal Sustainability██████████12%
Public Engagement███████8%
Emergency Medical Services█████6%
Procedural███4%
Personnel Matters███4%
Parks and Recreation███4%
Economic Development██2%
Employee Benefits██2%
Summary of Proceedings

Red Wing City Council Workshop on 2027 Preliminary Operating Budget - August 3, 2026

The Red Wing City Council held a workshop on August 3, 2026, from 5:30 PM to 8:03 PM to review the proposed 2027 Preliminary Operating Budget. The meeting was led by Council Vice President Beth Snyder (Council President Janie Farrar attended virtually). Staff presented a recommended 3.99% increase in the property tax levy and a $3.2 million transfer from the general fund to the ambulance fund. Council members expressed a range of views on the levy and the transfer, with no formal votes taken; staff will provide additional information for a final levy decision on September 14, 2026.

Discussion Items

  • Budget Overview and Proposed Levy: Finance & Accounting Manager Tony Schultz and Administrative Business Director Marshall Hallock presented the 2027 proposed budget. The recommended property tax levy increase is 3.99%, which amounts to $1,120,944. They noted that $1.7 million in debt service is dropping off, and about $1.4 million of the increase is due to a higher capital contribution. After normalizing for the $3.2 million ambulance fund transfer and increased capital spending, the core expenditure increase is 4.81%. Staff emphasized that the budget is balanced without using unassigned fund balance for ongoing operations.
  • Ambulance Fund Transfer: The proposed budget includes a one-time transfer of $3.2 million from the general fund to the ambulance fund to address cash deficits, underfunded public services, and budget deficits. Council members expressed concerns: Council Member Ron Goggin said the transfer could hide the true cost of ambulance service from the public; Council Member Donald Kliewer asked about the impact on the levy if the transfer was instead used to lower taxes (Hallock stated it could reduce the levy by $2 million). Council President Farrar and Mayor Gary Iocco also raised concerns. Staff argued the transfer does not change total city cash and is recommended by auditors and bond rating agencies. Council Member Kliewer suggested extending the transfer over multiple years, which staff said is possible.
  • Preliminary Levy Target: Council members gave initial reactions to the 3.99% proposed levy:
    • Council Member Goggin advocated for 0%, arguing that with $1.7 million in debt service savings, the effective increase is higher.
    • Council Member Kim Beise supported a preliminary levy of 5.99% (or 6%) as a placeholder, noting that Xcel Energy’s valuation uncertainty could affect revenue and a higher preliminary gives flexibility to reduce later.
    • Council Vice President Snyder supported 3.5% (CPI) and stressed the need to consider combined tax burden from the county and school district.
    • Council Member Becky Norton agreed with Beise, supporting 5.99% for the preliminary, but cautioned against cuts without understanding service impacts.
    • Council Member Kliewer favored a preliminary levy around 2–3% to avoid repeating past problems from a 0% levy.
    • Mayor Iocco said he wants a levy below CPI and noted the city has strong reserves (projected 69.25% of policy goal of 60%).
    • Council President Farrar said 3.99% is a good starting point but she would like to see a final levy at 3.5% or lower, possibly using the ambulance fund transfer to reduce taxes.
    • Council Vice President Snyder concluded that she supports a reasonable proposed levy and looks forward to additional information.
  • Fire Department Personnel: Council Member Norton requested details on hiring two new firefighter paramedics to reduce overtime. Fire Chief Mike Warner explained that vacancies due to FMLA, injuries, and departures have increased overtime costs. He stated that adding two positions would help reduce overtime, though quantifying savings is difficult. Staff agreed to run an analysis.
  • Other Potential Expenditures: Council members discussed:
    • Dog park: Council Member Norton mentioned a volunteer committee, and Mayor Iocco noted the committee plans to fundraise. Staff said the parks master plan and strategic planning processes will guide site selection.
    • Employee retention and compensation: Council President Farrar and Council Vice President Snyder supported exploring longevity pay or performance initiatives to retain institutional knowledge.
    • Health insurance: Council Member Norton advocated for information on moving employees from ICRA to the self-insured plan.
    • Capital projects: Council Member Goggin questioned spending on park improvements and a bike trail connection, urging focus on core infrastructure. Engineering Director Zach Regnier explained the $46,000 request is for a study of trail options.

Key Outcomes

  • Direction on Preliminary Levy: No consensus was reached on the exact preliminary levy percentage. Council members will continue discussions at the August 24 regular meeting and will set the preliminary levy on September 14. Staff will provide updated information on property valuation changes (including Xcel Energy), the ambulance fund, fire department costs, employee retention strategies, and the impact of the ambulance fund transfer on the levy.
  • Next Steps: Staff will present more details at upcoming workshops, including a benefits study later in August and an ambulance fund workshop on the fourth Monday of September (after the preliminary levy deadline). The council will hold a Truth in Taxation hearing in December before adopting the final budget.
  • No Formal Votes: As a workshop, no votes were taken. The council provided feedback for staff to incorporate into final recommendations.

Meeting Transcript

It's 5 30. I'm gonna call our council workshop 2017 budget workshop to order on August 3rd. And I appreciate everyone who's come here. I want to thank ahead of time the finance team who's done a lot of work. I know that on this budget, as well as the other um department chiefs who have also worked on this very hard tonight. Um Janie Fair is attending remotely and um Vicky Joe will not be able to attend as she is not feeling well. So I'll call this meeting to order and I look to our finance team to kick it off for us. We're actually going to turn it over to Chris to do a welcome and uh perfect. Thank you. Chris. I should have mentioned that this morning when we spoke, but um good evening council uh Vice President Snyder, I guess, uh and uh council members. Um before the presentation begins, as you mentioned, I wanted to definitely acknowledge um the staff involvement in this process. Um, it really started even prior to our CIP workshop this year, and um definitely a dedicated process for the CIP workshop that took place in early June, and then over the summer months. Um, many dedicated meetings from each department coming forward to bring it together in a collaborative effort, following um involving every department. Um, both looking at service needs, reviewing priorities, examining some of the revenues and expenditures or all of the revenues and expenditures, and working together to build to develop a budget that is both physically responsible and responsive to the needs of the community. Um the workshop tonight is uh intended to provide an overview of the proposed preliminary 2027 budget and property tax levy, the proposed levy, along with an opportunity for discussion among council members before that is actually adopted in September. Um, it presents what staff believes are responsible and uh reasonable financial plan for 2027, uh maintains the high level of services the residents expect and funds some of our or all of our prior commitments, both the bond uh debt service payments and and other commitments involving infrastructure and um also addresses the city's strategic initiatives and priorities. So I would just want to point one other thing out as you read through the actual uh staff report that was published last week. The last page of that staff report includes um both some questions for you to consider and then some potential additions to the uh actual preliminary budget as well as some uh potential cuts or or um options for for reductions. Those are also included in the PowerPoint presentation at the end of the presentation. So most of the presentation are will be really more than the meat in the sandwich, and then we'll get to some of those uh higher level thoughts and comments at the end, and I'll kind of help you go through those at as we get to that point. But feel free to address questions as you move forward through the the presentation if they're specific to those slides, but just know that we'll we'll talk about each of those specific uh areas in the the last page of the agenda packet towards the end of the presentation. Thank you, Chris. Yep, and if I can I'll just echo a lot of what Chris said appreciate you guys taking time out of beautiful Monday to spend here to talk about budget, and I've happened to glance behind me, and I appreciate the public's input, the public's attendance, and uh you know this is their budget at the end of the day, so look forward to presenting with that. I am gonna turn it over to Mr. Tony Schultz. Yep, I'll be the I'll be the last one to say thank you, council members and mayor, for being here tonight for this important workshop. This is a good kickoff to um providing the information initially here to get uh budget adopted for 2027. Um, and then also thank you to all the city staff who've contributed over the last couple of months. It started before the CIP workshop in June, but we've had several meetings and a whole host of city staff have provided information over the past couple months to compile all of this information that we're presenting to you tonight. Um so just a quick overview of where we're at. Uh as has been mentioned on June 1st, we had a five-year CIP budget meeting that presented information for the years 2027 through 2031. Um, and then we're at our initial city council budget workshop here. There's several more opportunities throughout the budget process, uh, including later this month when there's

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