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Red Wing City Council Workshop on Proposed New Law Enforcement Center - September 14, 2026

City Council — Monday, September 14, 2026
BodyRed Wing, Minnesota
SessionCity Council
DateMonday, September 14, 2026
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Speaker numbers apply only to this recording. Names come from transcript evidence. “Possibly” marks uncertain attribution.

Speaker 1

0:20

Just one item, obviously, it's the city council workshop.

0:23

So we're having an update on the proposed new law enforcement center, and I'll hand it over to our chief, Chief Sather, and we have some representatives that he'll reference, I believe.

0:33

So thanks for being here tonight.

Speaker 2

0:35

Thank you, Council President.

0:38

Before us today is a workshop.

0:40

Today is only an informational session, so no decisions obviously be made.

0:44

I'll not be asking for any decisions to be made today, obviously.

Unassigned speaker

0:48

If

Speaker 2

0:48

you at any point have questions, feel free to stop and ask.

0:51

I'm gonna go through a couple things, and then I'll turn it over to representatives from BKB, and then I'll come back and kind of finish up and then go over some finance-based stuff.

1:01

We also have a couple people here to answer questions if needed.

1:05

We have Tony from Finance who has run through some numbers with me as well, who can help with that for shifting

Unassigned speaker

1:10

it.

Speaker 3

1:12

In front of you here today is the

Speaker 2

1:13

proposed new police facility.

1:17

It shows 35,000 square feet, a rough cost of 23 million dollars and a 20 plus year planning.

1:24

The proposal in here, and I'll get to this later, but we're kind of aiming for a medium build uh in the middle, um, is what my recommendation will be.

1:33

However, uh, if we get to this point and a decision's made, that can always be brought backward or forward or whichever way you want to go, along with the cost incentive that goes along with it if that's chosen.

1:46

So I think most of us here today know why we need a new police facility, or we need to build on to law enforcement center uh for an expansion.

Unassigned speaker

1:54

Uh

Speaker 2

1:54

the reality is is we're out of space.

1:56

We don't have any more space, we've outgrown it.

1:58

I'm not gonna spend a lot of time on this, but um we went through lease negotiations, we lost a little bit of space there.

2:04

Uh we have some safety and operational barriers.

Unassigned speaker

2:07

Uh

Speaker 2

2:07

we have basically limited secure separation for public and staff.

2:11

Um, we have issues where people come to the law enforcement center and they come to speak with us, they might be reporting a theft, they could be reporting a sexual assault.

Unassigned speaker

2:20

Uh

Speaker 2

2:20

those people come into the lobby, they have to sit there where people are coming in and out of the jail,

Unassigned speaker

2:24

uh,

Speaker 2

2:25

where people are getting released in a lobby where

Unassigned speaker

2:28

you know

Speaker 2

2:28

anybody can sit, it's public area, um, and we just don't really have the waiting space for them to sit in until we can get them into an interview room if one is available.

2:37

And so we're we're just we're just limited on space and and uh it's just not a good space for victims currently, right now,

Unassigned speaker

2:43

the way we're treated.

Speaker 2

2:45

Um we've relocated multiple staff over the past several years.

2:48

I have a training officer that's been relocated, I believe, three times already uh in three different spaces.

Unassigned speaker

2:54

Um

Speaker 2

2:54

so we're continually evolving and moving things as we need to change things.

2:58

Uh it's working okay.

3:00

Um we'll get through it for another you know a few years as needed, we'll do what we need to do, but it's it's just not ideal.

3:06

Um, and we have a continuation of evolving moving things around and storage issues, um, and which goes into storage space is just exhausted.

3:14

Uh we have equipment that is literally sitting out

Unassigned speaker

3:17

in

Speaker 2

3:17

our squad room area, all the radios, shields, um, things like that that just should be in the an ideal storage area.

3:24

Uh we don't have storage anymore for our uniforms.

3:26

We try to keep equipment and reuse it to save as much money as possible.

Unassigned speaker

3:30

Um,

Speaker 2

3:30

so if we have a new officer that quits right away, we try to collect all their stuff and give it to the next person if it's usable because everything's expensive these days.

Unassigned speaker

3:38

Um,

Speaker 2

3:38

so we try to reuse what we can, and we just we don't even have space to store a lot of that stuff anymore.

3:43

So we're we're just we're out of space.

3:45

Um, and then back to victim privacy and dignity, you know, again is just one of our biggest issues.

3:52

So

Unassigned speaker

3:52

a

Speaker 2

3:53

police facility serves more than just the police, though it's not just about us, um, it's about the public,

Unassigned speaker

3:59

you

Speaker 2

4:00

know, and access to the station, uh, secure areas, it's about the community training, emergency operations.

4:07

Um, and so this building in particular would have extra space to do some training, have extra space to uh, you know.

4:14

I mean, if we need to have a big community meeting, uh, things like that, places that we just don't have, or if it is available, sometimes it's booked and we can't get into it anyway.

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Summary of Proceedings

Red Wing City Council Workshop on Proposed New Law Enforcement Center - September 14, 2026

The Red Wing City Council held an informational workshop on September 14, 2026, to receive an update on the proposed new Law Enforcement Center (LEC). Police Chief Nick Sather led the presentation alongside representatives Michael Healy and Paul Mitchell from BKV Group. Council Administrator Chris Heineman, Assistant Finance Director Tony Schultz, and other city staff were present to answer questions. Council President Janie Farrar convened the workshop at 5:00 PM, and no formal decisions or votes were taken.

Discussion Items

  • Need for a New Facility: Chief Sather outlined the inadequacies of the current space, including outgrown capacity, lack of secure separation between staff and the public, poor victim privacy in the lobby, no secure indoor fleet parking (citing $100,000 in recent hail damage to squad cars), exhausted storage, and the inability to place city signage on the current county-owned building.
  • Site Selection: Chief Sather explained that the Technology Drive site was selected as the top choice out of nine sites using a 31-criteria weighted scoring matrix. The city-owned site scored 178 points. A potential burial mound was noted as an area of concern, but the current building plan avoids that area.
  • Building Options and Costs (BKV): BKV presented three 20-year planning options:
    • Core: 30,506 sq ft, estimated $19M – $21.8M.
    • Enhanced: ~35,000 sq ft, estimated $21M – $24.6M. (Chief Sather recommended using this as a baseline starting point).
    • Optimal: ~43,000 sq ft, estimated $26M – $29M (includes an indoor firing range and a larger 25-stall garage).
    • Annual construction cost escalation was cited at roughly 5%.
  • Operational and Maintenance Costs: BKV estimated annual utility costs for a new facility at roughly $42,000. Kraus Anderson projected deferred maintenance over a 20-year period between $5.6M and $6M.
  • Financing Options:
    • Option A (Bond All): Bond for the full $23.196M (Enhanced baseline), resulting in a 20-year total cost of ~$34.9M ($1.745M annual payment).
    • Option B (Use Reserves): Utilize $7.1M from the Police Pera Fund, half of the Public Safety Aid, and $457,000 in capital reserves to reduce the bonding to ~$15.2M, resulting in a 20-year total of ~$22.88M ($1.14M annual payment). Assistant Finance Director Schultz noted that using the Pera Fund would eliminate the interest income currently used for squad car replacement (~$150k/year).
  • Staffing Projections: Chief Sather projected modest growth over 20 years, citing town growth and technology demands. This includes 2-4 additional patrol officers, plus potential new roles for a School Resource Officer, a crime analyst, an investigator, and a Community Service Officer.
  • Community Engagement: Chief Sather summarized feedback from two public forums held in February 2025. Attendance was low (approximately 17 and 25 people). Feedback was mixed, with support for improved victim-centered design and privacy, but concerns raised about tax impacts and the loss of commercial land for the proposed site.
  • Future Presentation: Chief Sather confirmed a second workshop is planned. It will feature a parallel analysis from TSP on renovating and expanding the current LEC, allowing the council to make a direct cost comparison between the two options.
  • Council Inquiries:
    • Council Member Snyder inquired about the specific legal restrictions and historical use of the Police Pera Fund.
    • Council Member Norton requested a detailed cost comparison of building maintenance versus renting, an estimate of escalation costs if the project is phased (e.g., building the garage later), and an update on Xcel Energy's IRP and NRC licensure process. Council Administrator Heineman replied that there is no current information from the NRC process.

Key Outcomes

  • The workshop was strictly informational; no formal decisions or votes were made by the council.
  • Staff will research the legal stipulations of using the Police Pera Fund for construction.
  • The next step is a follow-up workshop featuring a comparative presentation between the new construction (BKV) and the LEC renovation/expansion options (TSP), including a cost and rent analysis.
  • The workshop adjourned at 5:51 PM.

Meeting Transcript

Just one item, obviously, it's the city council workshop. So we're having an update on the proposed new law enforcement center, and I'll hand it over to our chief, Chief Sather, and we have some representatives that he'll reference, I believe. So thanks for being here tonight. Thank you, Council President. Before us today is a workshop. Today is only an informational session, so no decisions obviously be made. I'll not be asking for any decisions to be made today, obviously. If you at any point have questions, feel free to stop and ask. I'm gonna go through a couple things, and then I'll turn it over to representatives from BKB, and then I'll come back and kind of finish up and then go over some finance-based stuff. We also have a couple people here to answer questions if needed. We have Tony from Finance who has run through some numbers with me as well, who can help with that for shifting it. In front of you here today is the proposed new police facility. It shows 35,000 square feet, a rough cost of 23 million dollars and a 20 plus year planning. The proposal in here, and I'll get to this later, but we're kind of aiming for a medium build uh in the middle, um, is what my recommendation will be. However, uh, if we get to this point and a decision's made, that can always be brought backward or forward or whichever way you want to go, along with the cost incentive that goes along with it if that's chosen. So I think most of us here today know why we need a new police facility, or we need to build on to law enforcement center uh for an expansion. Uh the reality is is we're out of space. We don't have any more space, we've outgrown it. I'm not gonna spend a lot of time on this, but um we went through lease negotiations, we lost a little bit of space there. Uh we have some safety and operational barriers. Uh we have basically limited secure separation for public and staff. Um, we have issues where people come to the law enforcement center and they come to speak with us, they might be reporting a theft, they could be reporting a sexual assault. Uh those people come into the lobby, they have to sit there where people are coming in and out of the jail, uh, where people are getting released in a lobby where you know anybody can sit, it's public area, um, and we just don't really have the waiting space for them to sit in until we can get them into an interview room if one is available. And so we're we're just we're just limited on space and and uh it's just not a good space for victims currently, right now, the way we're treated. Um we've relocated multiple staff over the past several years. I have a training officer that's been relocated, I believe, three times already uh in three different spaces. Um so we're continually evolving and moving things as we need to change things. Uh it's working okay. Um we'll get through it for another you know a few years as needed, we'll do what we need to do, but it's it's just not ideal. Um, and we have a continuation of evolving moving things around and storage issues, um, and which goes into storage space is just exhausted. Uh we have equipment that is literally sitting out in our squad room area, all the radios, shields, um, things like that that just should be in the an ideal storage area. Uh we don't have storage anymore for our uniforms. We try to keep equipment and reuse it to save as much money as possible. Um, so if we have a new officer that quits right away, we try to collect all their stuff and give it to the next person if it's usable because everything's expensive these days. Um,

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