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Rochester Park Board Meeting Summary - March 3, 2026

Boards and CommissionsWednesday, March 4, 2026
BodyRochester, Minnesota
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DateWednesday, March 4, 2026
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0:09

Thank you very much.

0:11

All right.

0:15

First item on our agenda is there's any questions by any of the board members on our group of agenda.

0:23

I'm not seeing any on that.

0:27

So then we'll go ahead and start with roll calls starting in Mark.

0:32

Marty Carnack Ward 1.

0:36

Paul Marina Ward 2.

0:39

Representative.

0:41

Next item on our agenda is the approval of the net for the February 10th movie.

0:46

Are any questions anyone hands on minutes?

0:50

Seeing none, is my motion to approve.

0:53

Um large, all favor say aye.

0:56

Aye.

1:00

So the next item on our agenda would be in the open comment period.

1:08

We have one person signed up.

1:10

Emmy Gross from the Rochester Pickle Ball Association.

1:14

And if you'd like to speak for would you like to get the same here or you can stay on this two minutes?

1:20

We have two minutes.

1:20

We go I won't go beyond that.

1:22

Okay.

1:24

Thank you.

1:25

Um, so good afternoon, members of the park board.

1:27

And thank you for this opportunity to speak.

1:29

My name is Tammy Gross, and I am the president of Rochester area pickleball association for 2026.

1:36

Um, today we're here to ask for your support to rebuild the pickleball courts at Cook Park.

1:41

Um pickleball is unique in that you know that it brings together youth, seniors, families, new residents, mail clinic, bond visitors, in a way that very few other activities in this community can provide.

1:52

Um we feel that it strengthens the community connections and helps support active living and low barrier ways for people to stay healthy and engaged.

2:00

Rebuilding Cook Courts will provide a high quality, durable and welcoming space for players of all ages and abilities.

2:08

One thing that I do want to acknowledge is the conversation we've had in the past about priority play for association members.

2:14

Um we understand that that can be a sensitive topic, especially as the sport grows in our community.

2:20

Our goal is to not create exclusivity or to limit access to this park.

2:25

Our goal is to support a system that works for everyone, casual players, new players, families, and organized groups.

2:32

Our position is very simple.

2:34

The Rochester Area Pinnaball Association is committed to helping build this sport.

2:39

We value our concurrent partnership with the parks department to make this project a reality.

2:44

And we respectfully ask your approval to move this part project forward so that Cook Park can continue to serve as a vibrant safe and well-maintained recreational asset for the entire community.

2:57

Thank you very much, Gary.

2:58

And we will have that item on as 9B today, and our staff will explain the discussion that they've had with our partners for the list, which is the rapper group, and uh we may get a signal like that on that time.

3:12

All right.

3:12

Um next item on our agenda is the market partly reports as usual.

3:18

We are full of information and all the things.

3:25

Paul, were you uh did you want to point out any specific items in there?

3:30

I think one of the big milestones was the uh uh bean signing of the new maintenance facility that we'll be moving in soon to the end of the year.

3:42

Hopefully, much sooner than that.

3:43

We're thinking early fall, if not slightly sooner than that.

3:47

Okay, and that's uh coming along with the partnership with uh our um the public works team.

3:55

Um it's just really funny.

3:58

I think there's uh what's really what we're seeing is the efficiencies are coming from those who uh really know what they're doing, those that are doing uh uh work and assigned uh all the activities and uh that part of it is so far moving each other in fact really positive direction um we'll keep hosting with Marx.

4:22

Okay, I don't think I my question is what happens to the facility in the when we ran them in the land.

4:31

I will know that we the board will need to uh turn that over to the city.

4:39

That was kind of the plan is that uh that that land would be um it's already city property of being turned over to city administration and city council.

4:51

So we're gonna go as part of the funding for the best process.

4:54

Correct.

4:55

So further clarification, the the ball field itself will remain a ball field through at least 2030.

5:01

We've got agreements for that for that field.

5:04

Um the space to the east of that, we still want to retain some park under that area.

5:08

So the question is how much goes back where we develop at some point time, and you'll see that when it comes forward.

5:14

The other area too is along the river core.

5:16

You want to make sure the trail stays intact along the river border.

5:18

I think everybody wants that.

5:20

So okay.

5:22

All right.

5:23

I'll just kind of want other item in the report.

5:25

I see uh accessible rec have a nice program with young athletes, uh, mixing both those and actually you know, able to do a lot of things and others that are less able to.

5:38

I thought that was a very interesting program, and I wanted to point that out under the lots of reports uh on uh city.

5:47

Um I was noticing this you know report in here too as well about uh some engagement uh that's undergoing about uh sports in the community.

5:56

Um wanted to see if there's any expansion on that.

5:59

Is that the RC the um part of engagement that's out about RCTC?

6:04

A part of that, or helping maybe get a little more training on that.

6:08

Yeah, we can maybe discuss that another meeting.

6:10

Uh there uh that activity is to strengthen the partnership, maybe lead to some facilities in RCTC, but also to look at barriers in the community that might be preventing some people from participating in our park and rec programs, and that's an effort between mainly between our department and the communication department and others, and so that's uh a study that we had some information uh on previously want to comment on that.

6:40

Uh right.

6:41

Uh it all started out with uh a uh council um initiated action.

6:48

Uh there was a recommendation to set up a scholarship fund, and yeah, I remember that.

6:53

I remember you commented on that, and it kind of led us into this whole process.

6:57

So uh and the we took the questions from the board uh back to administration and worked with our communication team.

7:05

And just as uh uh Gary had mentioned, it's uh really to find out what would be you know what the issues are and and uh make sure we're we're addressing what the barriers actually are, not what they're perceived to be.

7:21

And uh so we have some really good uh um communication and uh coordination of a survey, public survey uh with our um the community ed uh program.

7:34

And uh we're uh working with them, we're working with the dedications team just to bring back the information to this board and to council on on uh what uh what what some of the solutions and changes might look like.

7:50

Yeah, okay.

7:51

I that helps frame that a little more.

7:53

Um I did see the individual call for you know participation with the uh engagement that seemed more specific to our PC as well.

8:03

Um and so I think in hat went on about you know like ensuring you got the right people were connected, all those kinds of things.

8:12

And so uh seeing this and then knowing that made me connect uh some dots there.

8:18

Um exactly, and yeah, they're two separate efforts, but really kind of getting at the the whole community participation and uh programming and how we can uh both partner it with uh our other agencies and within our own organization proof that okay.

8:36

But you guys are involved in both conversations and yeah, they're actively good.

8:41

All right, yeah, I I would yeah, I'd say both uh we're working pretty closely with uh the folks there.

8:50

That's that has to do with uh uh survey I got last week.

8:58

All connected.

8:59

Okay, all right.

9:01

Next item on our agenda is 78 of parts and elected parts of the bunker bills, Paul or there anything of note in there or just kind of your standards.

9:11

Pretty standard, still early in the year.

9:14

So all right.

9:15

Uh can I motion to approve the bills once there's any questions?

9:20

Question papers, um these seconds, Mark, all favor say aye.

9:25

Aye.

9:26

And we move it on.

9:28

Okay.

9:29

Uh item 7B is our financial performance here today.

9:36

Uh as the years go by, the picture becomes much clearer later in the year, but we uh in case you have any questions on the build at this point that you have in your fact that uh requests on that.

9:47

Uh being none, we just receive and file that one but have it and do that.

9:53

All right.

9:54

And we'll move to our consent agenda, and we've got two items on there, the bulk uh playground order, both concern.

10:02

Uh does anybody want to pull any of those items for discussion?

10:08

You want more discussion on those?

10:10

And nobody shaking their heads.

10:12

Then is there a motion to approve the two items on the consensus?

10:15

Um Marty on the paper say aye.

10:19

Aye.

10:19

Motion approved.

10:20

Okay.

10:21

Uh the next item in business is the project CIP overview.

10:25

And is Mike coming in to remember that one, Paul?

10:29

This is under Mike's direction.

10:31

Yeah, we've got some great conversation about this.

10:33

Uh, Mike is shared with uh uh our team, and uh we thought uh really good time to bring it forward and uh we've got uh requests for bring bring forward as well.

10:51

So I'll turn that over to my uh thank you for the time today.

10:54

This is gonna be fairly brief uh overall, but for questions if you have questions along the way.

11:00

Um just a brief summary of what we do with our money or where our money comes from.

11:05

So our project funding for any big projects comes from different sources.

11:10

Tax levy is the primary source.

11:12

We also get grants from state federal governments and from private ventures as well.

11:16

Our park referendum, which is actually still a tax, but uh we can't keep that separate, track that separately.

11:22

Then partnerships like Pickleball, who's here today, which is great, and donations that we get.

11:27

So that's scary.

11:29

And and one more is uh some of our activities generated revenue, those are the other ones that sort of.

11:35

They do, yes.

11:36

Oh, it's a viable.

11:38

They do, yes.

11:38

Sorry, go ahead.

11:39

No, it's very first statement.

11:40

So again, those those go towards in our operational cost uh in those activities that way.

11:45

Um, those operational dollars or dollars that we get coming in are broken down two different ways into operation dollars or capital dollars, and from the operational projects that we have going on, those are fed through our departmental budget, and you get down to our division.

12:00

So the division of parks and forestries, my division, Ben's got his division.

12:04

Jeffrey over there with golf is has their division of funds that they get annually for their typical allocation of activity.

12:11

So removing trees or fixing fences or changing a boiler or maybe a pump, but not a boiler, but a pump, things like that that are daily activities, those are our operational dollars, and we don't really track those kind of projects very fast or very very tightly.

12:26

We have a listing that we take care of our staff.

12:28

We say, okay, we have some certain goals we want to meet for our our internal stuff.

12:32

Our staff does that, we hire some work done, but it's generally smaller scale activities.

12:37

The bigger activities, the things you see more often are more in the public facing realm is that our capital improvement program, and those are really funded through again those same pots of money, but it's guided from our park system plan, generally over $35,000 or more, sometimes billions.

12:54

Um, it's part of our CIP program.

12:57

So again, our program has a six-year CIP that we look at planning out that far.

13:02

In fact, we plan out farther than that, but we lay that out with the council.

13:05

Council generally adopts that as a framework, and year to year you can add or detract things, but really that's the framework looking forward.

13:13

They're planning here for the budgets and for the tax levy allocations that far out in advance.

13:17

So they're seeing what's out there ahead of time.

13:20

Um then each biannual budget gets adopted by the council, and then each individual year is adopted.

13:25

So we can't focus on those first two years really from those current activities we're working towards.

13:33

The CIP program is out online under the finance department.

13:36

Um, you know, under reports, you can find this the capital improvement program or our operational budgets.

13:42

This is what that looks like.

13:43

And again, we've got a lottery list of 13 on this page here, and probably other 13 on the next page.

13:49

And we lay it out from on the very far left side, 2026 to 2031.

13:55

And we're actually just starting to look at 2032 to add what project we want to have out there in 2032.

14:01

This is all good long-term planning.

14:04

Um, we'll get to one thing that may change some of these things that are out there, but we'll get to that next.

14:09

We take this information and kind of form it back that that back down to kind of bite-sized pieces where we're looking at it from a standpoint of what's our dollars, what's the project?

14:18

Off to the right-hand side, and you don't we don't show you that, who's running that project for us, um, whether it's consultant based or whether it's our staff based, etc.

14:27

And along with that, some types of schedule that goes along with that.

14:29

Then so for example, uh, I'm gonna go through these if you like.

14:33

The very top line is a community uh impact fund.

14:36

That's the funding that we've authorized the board or the board's been authorized for certain dollars out there, and the next three years is set for $30,000.

14:45

It's flush between 100,000 and 30,000, and there's been a couple years at zero based on where those funds flow to elsewhere in our project scheme.

14:54

In here, there's no project manager assigned to that.

15:00

That's really a board decision when those come forward to say, okay, we want to put it towards uh go that's or enhanced Silver Lake or to enhance the skate park.

15:06

In fact, that's what it was used for here that's more recently was the skate park initiative.

15:11

So we look at each of those projects that are in that capital improvement program, narrow that back down to the first year or two.

15:16

And this really, because of the project scheme we have here, is really a two-year cycle for the most part.

15:22

So our disease trees, this next line right here that you see.

15:25

That's really an annual allocation for everything from taking out trees across our boulevards and our park areas, a lot of it related to Emerald Ashboard at this point in time, or Dutch Lisease, or even Oakwilts.

15:36

Um, but we're spending 150,000 almost annually.

15:40

Um we get a big storm event, we'll use some of those monies for the storm event also.

15:44

And we've got a little buffer in that in that program of about 200,000.

15:50

That when a storm happens, we'll cake that down to 100,000 to try to build that back up over time.

15:55

And again, those storms can be very expensive for us.

15:58

Uh we got the tree leaf or relief and federal grant dollars coming in for again tree planting across our community.

16:04

Those are in certain certain uh census tracks that we're doing that within.

16:07

So it's again a multi-year project.

16:09

That's why it's on here, bigger project.

16:11

Corey Hill improvements, these colors right here.

16:14

I think uh different up there.

16:16

The yellow, green, whatever color that is.

16:18

Yeah.

16:19

Oh, thank you.

16:20

Um those yellow ones are ones that we already are in process for.

16:25

They may have carried over from last year, and they may carry over for another year or two, depending on what project it is.

16:30

In this case, Quarry Hill.

16:32

We started this last year getting it all in line.

16:34

We got grant dollars associated with that, some kind of a pulpo project out of Corey Yale, some signage, some security, some trail improvements, things like that.

16:42

Very good things.

16:43

We got a big grant uh from the Greater Minnesota Regional Parks and Trails Commission of which was that, Jeff?

16:50

Four or fifty thousand dollars.

16:53

So a big chunk of money to go towards that project.

16:56

The next project is our neighborhood park development and playground replacement.

16:59

They kind of go hand in hand, but they really don't.

17:02

So we think of uh a park that's out there right now.

17:05

We've done a lot of work the last four years about replacing older park systems, playground equipment that's out there.

17:12

This is an allocation towards doing that.

17:14

So there's more to do out there.

17:15

We probably have we have 147 parks and 90 playground pieces of equipment out there.

17:21

So again, you can just imagine how much the cycle goes forward.

17:24

And while age doesn't affect them, the wear and tear does, and the safety uh protocols change also, so that may impact are they still viable and safe for our community to utilize.

17:35

So we have a long list of uh replacements to do.

17:38

We just take tick them off the list as we go by each year.

17:42

Can I one uh couple of years are one of the really smart things the board didn't I wasn't on there and really smart, they're following the staff for a proposal for a park levy referendum uh lend to the public to be voted on that brings in a source of money is two million dollars a year.

18:06

And due to that money, some wonderful things in my opinion have happened.

18:10

One is we've seen the biggest refreshment and improvement of our neighborhood parks more in the last half a dozen years, and I think I've seen them in 20 years before that because it was a source of money specifically for the parks.

18:25

But the other thing that was really great out of that is it provided the department with a source of match, source of matching funds where you can sometimes get a state grant for a federal fair, and they have gotten a tremendous amount of grant money.

18:42

So it's like we've doubled the money out almost that's in the referendum and Jeff and Mike and Paul and others on their staff have been doing that.

18:50

But while we were on that, I just wanted to compliment the department on their on their foresight a number of years ago when they really pushed through that referendum, and it has been a major source of improvement in our in our system in my belief.

19:03

I'm gonna add two comments to that, Gary, if you don't mind.

19:05

I think one is we spent uh on playgrounds alone, about $900,000 on improving playground.

19:11

So again, a vast number in a very short window of time that's scary area's reference, and that's a lot of thanks to Jeff and our team to do that.

19:17

Uh Jeff and Matt's here as well.

19:19

Um, the grant dollars, and we don't tout this a whole lot, but I'm gonna go from rough numbers.

19:26

We have gathered about 40 million dollars in grant dollars in my tenure at in the city of Roger parks and rights in the last 15 years.

19:34

Huge dollars that we have, max dollars we need to go towards to get it done with.

19:38

And again, it just adds to our whole system.

19:41

And you know, you the board have helped support those activities.

19:45

So again, we couldn't do it without you and the crux and with our partners as well.

19:48

So continuing on, um so neighborhood park development is new developments to do a replacement is replacing old stuff, think of it that way.

20:00

Um, we've got a project there, whatever color that is under Cascade Lake, fiber and Wi-Fi.

20:02

We want to bring that to Cascade Lake side in the amphitheater area.

20:06

Right now we've got money set aside for that, but we're waiting for the whole bus rapid transit to be done to bringing fiber along with that.

20:12

When it gets near to our access point at 23rd Avenue, we'll bring it into the site then.

20:16

It'll probably be later this year or following next year.

20:18

So undetermined yet.

20:20

Plumberhouse, we've got a project hanging out there, as you've heard before about the shingles.

20:25

Uh it's still sitting in SHIPO's standpoint, state historic preservations office.

20:28

So uh waiting for them to say yes to that.

20:30

Once we do, we'll get that project underway.

20:33

More importantly, though, that next slide below there.

20:35

We've not done any work on that one yet, is forthcoming projects.

20:38

We've got money both set aside in this year and next year's budgets, uh, 26 and 27 to make some improvements.

20:44

So again, this year we'll be looking at what those projects may entail.

20:47

We'll bring that back to you, let you know what we're gonna be working on, and then come forward and see grant dollars for those that project as well.

20:53

Could be anything from the stone walls to some additional roofing on the slate or some window replacements, whatever we want to see.

21:01

There's a about five million dollars in asset preservation that needs to happen in the building.

21:06

So the 300,000 or 250,000 won't go very far, but it's a it's a step in the right direction.

21:12

Um park safety replacements.

21:14

This is the rubberized replacement surfacing that we do annually.

21:17

We've got two more years left of that activity.

21:20

We program that in the capital approvable program using park dedication dollars going towards replacing the hold equipment uh surfacing, so mulch or sand and putting rubber in there.

21:30

It's a safer program, longer longevity for our team to maintain, easier for us to maintain.

21:35

Um, so we've been doing that last oh boy, seven years or so, six, seven years.

21:39

Umprovements, you've been heard about that.

21:44

We're hoping the pool here this spring or this summer, uh, so it's underway.

21:48

The civil trail, which is kind of a counterpart to that, it goes along with the dredging program.

21:53

We actually got grant dollars for that trail on the north side of the lake that close that loop.

21:58

And when they do the dredging out there, that that link will be made.

22:01

So this is also grant supported, so that will be done likely in 2020, late 26 or early 27 with that trail uh once the dredging is all complete.

22:11

The central dog park, which is this next slide on, which is that rec center area down below in the bottom land areas.

22:17

Um, it's been planned for about uh since 2014, 15, somewhere in that range, believe it or not.

22:23

And we had some money early on from city council to do some clearing out there.

22:28

We did that, and no money follows through after that.

22:31

So we actually have money that dedicated for that purpose this year.

22:34

Um, Mike Shopper's gonna lead that process to kind of get some engagement going on with the with the neighborhood out in that location, and then a design process.

22:42

So some fencing around there, how do you get access down from the parking lot down to that bottom land area as well?

22:47

There's already a trail partial cut there, so it's what do we service that with natural resource inventory.

22:53

Again, going through the process of making sure our natural resources are still viable.

22:57

It's making sure we got some allocations for it's mostly um basis management, so buck Thorb, garlic mustard, things like that.

23:04

There's some other occasional things we want to make enhancements to, uh, whether that's new seating areas, things like that.

23:10

That's a great project to have going forward.

23:12

Jeff Hobman, Jeff Beast, and Alison Litchy are all leading that project, working together on that.

23:18

Game Haven, um, this is part of a grant you you may have been aware of it.

23:22

We announced here this past year about mountain biking expansion out in that park as well as snow making expansion, uh bringing power down to our soulmaking equipment.

23:31

Uh, we spent a lot of money on uh generators and fuel.

23:34

So again, this power down there will save us quite a bit of money.

23:37

So the goal is to make that tubing hill out there with a toll rope along with that.

23:41

And again, we'll have a much different activity out there than what's currently there.

23:44

Make the total being easier to get up the hill.

23:46

If you're not without their sledding, it's great to go down, it's hard to walk back up.

23:51

Um, Matt Davidson will be leading that project along with Jeff Beast.

23:54

So again, looking forward to what it turns out this year.

23:57

Very exciting.

23:58

We'll probably do it in phases.

23:59

So this year we'll probably be getting power down there with really next year the other major improvements.

24:03

So again, just from a timing standpoint, the grant's not been signed yet.

24:07

So we go on state legislative fiscal um budgetary constraints.

24:12

So they have their next budget year after the legislature approves everything.

24:15

So starting in July, that's when the grant will be signed in July or August or September.

24:18

So again, the the where window for this fall will be very narrow.

24:22

Um, a few more highlights here that I just talked about.

24:26

We're already underway at Cutsky Tennis Courts.

24:28

Getting some details there.

24:29

We got some soil borings we took out there.

24:32

That is a partnership with our tennis association, and they're looking to raise some money to replace those last three courts that are out there.

24:39

If you recall, we did the first eight, came back and did the next couple, and then now we got three remaining courts out there to finish up.

24:45

And that will be a very good program to have finished up.

24:48

We have some referendum dollars we put aside towards this $50,000, and the rest of the funds are gonna be either by grant or by fundraising.

24:55

So great project there.

24:57

Uh cook pitfall, our friends here from RAMPA is are here to support the project.

25:00

Our friends here from RAPA is here to support the project.

25:01

We'll talk about that.

25:02

I think it's next on the agenda.

25:04

So I won't go into detail there.

25:06

MLK, you've seen the details on that, the engagement we've had on that project.

25:09

Again, we're getting close to bid on that one.

25:12

And that'll start construction this summer.

25:14

It'll be a great project when that finishes up probably next year.

25:18

But uh again, looking forward to that happening.

25:20

That's having that family in the state.

25:23

Yeah, we got it.

25:24

We got 1.5 million.

25:25

Uh it's it's a big grant for us, and we have to match that obviously.

25:29

And if you recall, we actually move some money around under our neighborhood play neighborhood aquatics that we had planned for future years and bundled that with this project to make that happen.

25:39

So that was a majority of that money we're not coming from.

25:42

Um improvements, we've got a kiosk plan out there.

25:47

I've got a pending proposal RFP for signage company.

25:50

So the same group we worked on signage company.

25:52

Same group we worked with for our indigenous survey of the United States and Silver Lake, and they work with us on Silver Lake, uh, the confluence area.

26:01

We've sought a proposal from those folks to do the uh kiosk entry signage.

26:06

So again, it's all native Dakota area, so we want that positive influence with that group to reflect that.

26:12

That's the goal there.

26:15

Um the park system update, that's the real big one that's gonna be hanging out here.

26:19

So we've got planned money in 2027.

26:22

Our goals to gear up for that later this fall to get the RFP out to consultants, get that input back in.

26:30

So starting, you know, late, let's say December, November, we'll bring the bring that back to the board here for authorization.

26:37

Then come January turnarounds are having the engagement with the community about things like programmatic activities where we want to see the the participants to grow.

26:45

What do you want to see out there for activities?

26:47

Uh, what amenities you want to have?

26:49

What are we lacking?

26:50

What are the gaps that we have in our system?

26:51

These are all questions we asked before, we want to ask the same questions.

26:55

But through the last two years, that's three years, other issues have come up like park dedication.

27:01

We want to talk about that.

27:02

What does the community want to see about that?

27:03

We want to talk about um some mapping activities, see where parks need to go, the location, geographication for those.

27:10

We got a big area northwest with uh some parks, but there's some maybe community parks or regional parks we should be considering that northwest area.

27:18

Uh things like that that we're talking about.

27:21

And again, some other projects here, the Silver Lake Playground, looking at renovating that here in 2027-2028.

27:28

We've got some money combining money again from our um park renovation funds that we're looking at and make bills towards that particular project during those years.

27:38

We'll also see grant dollars for that.

27:39

So again, that would be a nice change.

27:41

They did increase grant dollars for DNR to 500,000, right, Jeff?

27:46

So it's a big change from 350,000.

27:48

So if we say we get a grant for 500,000, we can match with 500,000, we've got a million-dollar project.

27:54

It's a big impact on a uh community-sized park like that.

27:57

With that playground uh modification, we'll touch basically every side of that park in the last four or five years.

28:06

So pretty impressive.

28:07

We can get that done.

28:09

The last bit of programs there is the flood control.

28:12

These are annual allocations.

28:14

So we do rally painting, uh, headlighting, and if we have a bigger storm, we have the erosion in the riverbank or creek banks.

28:23

We need to make uh maintain those and go correct that.

28:26

That fund is actually kind of sitting there.

28:28

We've done a lot of work in that last couple of years, but we're bound to get a bigger rate event that will create some havoc for so that money is there for that purpose.

28:35

Can I comment on that?

28:36

You sure can.

28:37

Okay.

28:38

Uh control project was approved for funding um 15 million back in 1982, 83.

28:48

It was the first request to the state legislature to allow it.

28:55

There's only one in Minnesota in that time, and that would be a grandfather in 1968.

29:00

The state said we're never gonna have an approval for sales tax.

29:03

Well, the city went up there and got approval for funding for the batching share for the federal funds for the flood control uh project.

29:12

Uh during the process, the city was negotiating with the federal government on funding for the project.

29:19

They changed the local cost share from 10% to 25%.

29:25

And the city no longer had enough money for a share of the flood control project, even though they were approving it.

29:31

City went back in, got an extension of the sales tax, and with that, uh, with the help of federal representative, we got additional funding to put in the maintenance fund.

29:43

That money stayed in the maintenance fund and then crew the first 10 years the project was still being constructed.

29:49

That fund grew to at one point.

29:51

We had 27 million dollars in there.

29:54

And so basically, those funds have been used since it's E to present day to main do the major source of funding for the maintenance of the flood control project.

30:05

I don't know if there's already been any property tax money that's gone in there.

30:09

That's probably now the last two years.

30:11

Uh no, not yet.

30:12

But it's so basically um for flood control, the funding for that is still coming from the 1989 uh additional funding that the city got from the sales from the federal side.

30:27

So that is correct.

30:28

Yeah, that was one of the better deals we ever made.

30:32

Yeah, it's not that very important for some over the years.

30:36

Yeah.

30:36

I've got one last project, and I can't get it to show up here.

30:39

It's extreme wood waste management in the very bottom.

30:42

And what that is is is the current operation that's run by Hathaway Tree Service for the City of Rochester on our being out.

30:49

They're on part of our property on part of their property out on 50th Avenue Northwest.

30:53

But the adjoining development that's happening out there, we are sunsetting that location of activity for tree waste management.

31:00

And as part of that, we've got to relocate them.

31:04

We have been working with the county uh the last four months and couldn't quite make that work out by the landfill.

31:11

So we are now pivoting to a site that we manage, KR3, as a matter of fact, is our primary site that we're looking at.

31:18

As part of that, we need to go through and do some design activities and some engineering work and some grading work to make that site suitable for a wood waste management site for us.

31:28

So this is just informing you that project, it's not in the CIP.

31:31

It came up rather suddenly actually, but it's in our list now to make sure the project happens.

31:37

And the bigger question is I'm gonna be asking you folks, or I am asking you folks for some funding for that activity.

31:42

So we had actually in our parking forestry, our forestry section of that budget this past year, preserve some money that went back into the into the reserves for our department.

31:53

We want to use those funds and add to that to allow us to go forward and design project and start that work happening.

31:59

Our funds are not the only funds going towards this.

32:02

Stormwater's gonna be going towards this as well as some council dollars as I understand it.

32:06

So but the first request is for um 75,000.

32:10

Well, you can't say there says 35,000 from this year, 35,000 from next year from last year is our goal.

32:15

So with that, I'd open up for questions.

32:18

And if you've got no questions, then I'd request you to make a motion on that request for authorization for funds.

32:24

And that for the tree tree has followed yes, Marvin, you have a question?

32:28

Yeah, uh, the one I wanted about annual disease treaty removal.

32:34

Yes.

32:35

Wouldn't that be operational instead of uh yeah?

32:38

Well you know, we've debated that over time as to where this this should go.

32:42

Um, back about five years ago, four years ago, finance department sat down with the different departments and gotten a lot of operational type activities.

32:51

And we kept it in the CIP because it's a big dollar and because it we use it for grant matches, we use it for bigger storm activities that you can't just pay.

33:00

So this pot grows and shrinks based on the amount of activity we spend out there.

33:04

Yes, it's for disease tree management.

33:06

Yes, we spend a certain amount each year out of it, so that part is operational, but it's really that that growth and that flow of the funding to cover those bigger events that happen.

33:15

Good question, though.

33:16

Right.

33:18

Um, can you frame a little bit more?

33:21

So we have a request for action on funding, right?

33:24

Yes.

33:25

Can you talk about a little bit more about why this has to be relocated and our relationship with them?

33:32

Is this a city-owned property?

33:34

It's a city-owned property, yeah.

33:35

So actually, it's very unique where we own half of the property and the the vendor owns half the property, it's just the way it they were all on our property many years ago.

33:44

We moved into this site that was a shared site.

33:47

Um, they're moving off this site because of the adjoining lands being developed, and there's a commitment by the city of Rochester said we don't want to have this waste disposal site right next to the houses that are going out there, and where's loud noises and burning operations, things like that.

34:00

So that's the reason why it is moving.

34:03

Um we're picking a site that is less obtrusive, more long-term strategy-wise, it'll remain that spot for a very, very long time.

34:11

Um share where that site is.

34:13

Yeah, I did mention it's KR3, which is 19th Street Northwest.

34:17

And it's just Dr.

34:19

Funker Land.

34:21

The reservoir out there.

34:22

I guess it's small, so it's the water reservoir.

34:25

Yeah, yeah.

34:27

Um, it is a it has a uh long-standing partnership, and um is it only used by the city?

34:36

That's in the street.

34:37

No, it's used by the public.

34:38

That's kind of the key focus here.

34:39

Is that when we did this?

34:41

Boy, it's been first established 40 years ago, 35 years ago, something like that.

34:46

They're on the east side of 50th Avenue for many, many years.

34:49

We go over to the west side, but in that in that operation, they've always been our partner.

34:54

And we require them to operate hours, they have to set a reasonable fee.

34:58

We have a we have say in that.

35:00

We end up, we get the around what they spend out there, um, and what kind of the sales they have and things like that.

35:07

We get a whole bunch of information from them to account for that public side of of use.

35:13

And it's good for the for us and the public because if we didn't have them, we'd have probably some illicit dumping going on elsewhere on the community and around the county.

35:21

So we've debated whether we should still stay in that business, and the answer always comes back to yes.

35:26

If we didn't do it, you might have some private vendors out there, and there are some private vendors, but at the whim, they can say we're not taking any debris any longer.

35:34

And there's been some of those smokes that are been out there where they are open to the public periodically, but it's not consistent.

35:40

So again, there's risk that if I'm expecting to take my tree debris out there and it's not available for me, what do I do with it?

35:47

Guess it might be western yard for very long.

35:51

And big storm is very handy.

35:54

Yeah, in fact, during a big storm, it goes well beyond the site they're utilizing right now.

36:00

They they use other parts of our city in Rochester for those activities.

36:04

Yeah, you know, and it's like I'm I'm drawing the link here a little bit too as well.

36:07

Like, you know, there's been a lot of building out in War Three.

36:12

Um a lot of uh big changes, especially within the last month or two with all the holdings in Lenar coming in out there, which um and and the other builders too.

36:21

I should single them out uh solely.

36:24

Um and so there's a couple of things that come to mind.

36:27

I'd like I do recall there was uh some concerns about all those houses being approved around them, around this site, and and with that particular activity.

36:38

And then the next thing that comes to mind is this still going to be an appropriate new location with all of the um changes in Northwest, and then I think of course about um County Road 44 and 14 with that development that's coming up there, how we're gonna continue to see um and in my anticipation more development out there.

37:00

You got it.

37:00

Um, so um I think maybe that's my question I'm leveraging is how sustainable is this location?

37:07

So we believe that it is.

37:09

Like I said, we talked with the county for several months to see if we can get closer to the landfill with with KR3, we're actually right across the landfill.

37:16

So we're looking at going at county land previously, and just the partnership didn't quite work out.

37:20

That's okay that this way it works out.

37:22

But being across the landfill, again, there's not gonna be development right across the landfill.

37:26

And again, around us, there is um some floodplain land.

37:30

Again, we're on a flood control reservoir, so it won't be any development around that.

37:34

Um south of us, there will be development, but again, we don't see it to be an impact for industrial type of uh development over there at the south side of us.

37:43

So again, we don't see it to be real impactful.

37:45

And um, as it set this up, we'll have some screening around it like we have before.

37:50

Uh and I'll be very honest.

37:53

We they are they are authorized to burn out there right now with uh it's called an air curtain burner, but it's very efficient.

37:59

You very rarely see any smoke out of it.

38:01

Yeah, we don't.

38:02

And they actually don't burn that much anymore either.

38:04

So they're doing mostly grinding, they got a new grinding here about um a year ago and just changed their whole operation to be more efficient.

38:11

So okay.

38:14

Any other questions for you or anybody?

38:17

Uh I appreciate that.

38:18

Thank you.

38:19

Okay.

38:20

If not, then all once you have any additional comments, we'd be done with 98.

38:28

I would like funding.

38:29

Yeah, see it.

38:30

Yeah.

38:31

Uh is there a motion to approve the funding.

38:34

Do I explain it again, Mike?

38:36

How much are there 75,000?

38:37

Uh we'll I meant to say 70,000, 35,000 from each year.

38:41

So 70,000 total between the two years.

38:43

Okay.

38:44

Is it request?

38:47

Paul, all the papers say aye.

38:49

Uh thank you.

38:52

All right.

38:53

The next item, uh when we started discussing at the beginning of the meeting, which is the code part pickleball reservation, renovation is Mike Handling now.

39:03

I am okay.

39:04

I am very curious to say that we we have a project going forward at Cook Cook Wall Courts.

39:10

Um, it was a project that I think was brought forward by our partners saying there's concerns about the courts, conditions of the courts.

39:17

As you may or may not know, we renovated those courts about 2000, we say 17.

39:23

So it's been a few years, and the courts are just not held up the way they're supposed to have held up.

39:29

And we believe we found out the reason why it's it's how we were rebuilding them.

39:34

Um cut against why we did it, how we did it.

39:37

We didn't know any better back then.

39:38

We've learned more things as time is going on.

39:41

Um, but now we want to build this court system right.

39:44

And part of the goal here is to make concrete courts.

39:47

Um, we believe it's gonna be much more state sustainable long term, minimize cracking and minimize the overall uh effort for for maintenance in the area.

40:00

So we went up for bids and we received five bids back, all very competitive, with Rochester sand and gravel being the low bid at 347,000 and some odd change.

40:09

And with that being the low bid, um we had two alternates.

40:13

One was one version being asphalt course in case it came over bid for the concrete courts, concrete courts, and then some chain lake fencing.

40:21

So right now we're recommending that the concrete courts, and we'll hold off on the chain link fencing unless we see budgets.

40:28

We come in okay on budget, we might add those back at the very end.

40:31

But overall, the project cost is about four or three thousand dollars, with the city of Roger picking up 211,000 and Usher Pickleball supporting us with 210,000.

40:44

And that provides us about 20,000 of gap right now.

40:48

I'm also asking for another 25,000 just to hold in reserved in case we need that for whatever reason.

40:53

It's a contingency fund.

40:54

If we don't use it, we won't use it.

40:56

So uh, but I do want to pre- uh share my appreciation of pickleball and the funding they're bringing forward.

41:02

We have an agreement that we've already approved with them, so you'll see that they'll make their payments over the next.

41:07

I should have looked at that.

41:08

I think it's 15 years, right?

41:10

Or is it 10 years, 10 years?

41:12

So again, a great partnership to move this project forward.

41:15

The extra 10 is that coming out of park reserves or where's the start?

41:19

Okay, yeah, exactly.

41:20

All right, is there any questions on this project from members of the board?

41:25

Jump is I'm off full of questions today, yeah.

41:29

Here we go.

41:29

Um so um white them's maybe a little bit of a process, like you know, in some of the other usually like the competing bids.

41:39

I'd be happy to share with you.

41:40

We only see one right now.

41:42

Um you know, we're expected to vote on this today and say that's emergency about getting the construction um biddings out there, likely for construction this year.

41:52

And so I'm assuming that's a sense of urgency, but I I would like some some framing around that just for transparency as well for the community.

41:59

Yep.

42:00

I also think a little bit as well of like I would transparency for the community as well.

42:08

It's like, you know, is it appropriate that this wasn't included in the documentation in the agenda before today?

42:18

Um I will as the last question first.

42:21

And thank you.

42:21

We're gonna go through bid processes.

42:24

It is not on uncommon that we have bids coming in.

42:27

We've got to analyze those bids and we get you the information before it's um time for such a long lead time of bidding, it's three weeks time.

42:34

So again, trying to meet our timeline to get out of the parkboard agenda, get it analyzed in time.

42:39

This is common that you're gonna have one more about golf here coming shortly.

42:42

So you try not to do that very often, but it does happen periodically.

42:46

Okay.

42:46

Um, but it's a fair question.

42:48

And yes, I probably should have put the information out there.

42:51

It is public information, so I'm happy to share it with you.

42:53

Yeah, I think I you know, really a part of me thinks a bit about the process and transparency.

42:58

Um, and so I'd appreciate at least you know having some eyes on this before we vote on it.

43:05

Um just as I would uh I think it's fair.

43:10

Um I would say I think it's been fairly rare that we have like this.

43:16

And um I understand the concern.

43:19

I do think every now and then it's probably gonna happen when you have a board that meets once a month rather than uh city council meeting every two weeks or so.

43:29

Uh and sometimes more sometimes four times more.

43:33

Um so it I understand your concern.

43:37

I do think it has been it's happened fairly rarely.

43:41

I did call all of the asked what the numbers were or were like um before the meeting, but yeah, okay.

43:49

Yep, so here's here's base bid A.

43:51

Base bid A was the um, and by the way, I just share it with pickleball folks, so they have it.

43:56

Um basebid A was the asphalt courts, and you see TZAC did not provide a bid there.

44:01

Santa Gravel had a bid of 200 298,000.

44:05

Tember was 363, going rock wrong numbers here, obviously.

44:08

Elkro was 367, and urban coverage was 443.

44:12

So that was the asphalt bids.

44:14

Um the concrete bids going out of that section right down there.

44:19

That's this one right here.

44:22

Um sand and gravel was low at 347,800.

44:26

Pember companies was 433, Elkir, very close at 433, also 370.

44:32

TZAC was 514 and Urban was 604.

44:35

And then the fencing was right down here.

44:39

Um, let's see here.

44:42

Sorry, we need to expand this again.

44:46

TSAC was 9,000, Santa Gravel was 60 uh 8600, and um Pember 11,000, Elcort 9,000, and Urban was 70,000.

45:02

So they had a whole big, they must calculate that bid amount.

45:07

Which does that's why we look for these because again, they can make errors.

45:10

We'll make sure it's correct before we get that information out.

45:14

So great question.

45:15

Um, I should have added that to the information, but I did that.

45:18

Pardon?

45:19

Um was it surprising that the difference between asphalt and concrete was that that far apart?

45:27

No.

45:27

Okay.

45:31

Although there are times when oil prices start climbing, as we are hearing right now, where those prices get fairly close, and then you start saying, okay, even though we've been out both alternates, we'll still get to click uh select the concrete because it's the longer durable product and let the asphalt go.

45:47

In this case, as well is much more cheaper or inexpensive, but again, it's much more maintenance intensive, and again, longevity.

45:54

Um, we know it's not as I guess I was I was surprised they were actually as close as they were.

46:00

Oh, it's close.

46:00

Oh no, that's about right when I expected to see.

46:03

Okay, well, I have a great partnership with the uh Rappa group that helps make this project possible.

46:09

Are there any more questions or Cindy?

46:12

Just one more.

46:12

So it was brought up in the comments about you know uh the conversation previously about um really around that balance of um taxpayer dollars going into this around the dollars went into it, and where does that balance come in of priority play?

46:28

Or I think in our previous meeting, we kind of touched a bit on like how that could feel as like exclusivity.

46:35

Um so has there been any advancement in the conversation or a plan on how that's going to be addressed?

46:41

Yeah, in fact, when we when we approved the agreement, you made it.

46:44

I'm not sure if you were on the board at that point in time or not.

46:47

I think you were anyhow during that time frame.

46:50

Um RAPA provided their hourly schedule, what was proposed out there, how much open play they have, they have their philosophies, they actually adopted different bylaws or maybe that was bylaws goals as part of their rules.

47:03

So again, encouraging the public to come and utilize the courts as well.

47:07

I think though within that verbiage, it was still highlighted as potentially feeling exclusive, like there was some particular verbs that was kind of stuck there as like um rabble players um have like it was something I should have to look back on, I don't need any comment on it.

47:24

I think I think the comment at the time was members versus non-members, and you would like we wanted us to change that verbiage.

47:32

Yeah, I would have to take a back look back.

47:34

There was something specific about the verbiage that was uncomfortable.

47:38

Yeah, um, given that there's an equal partnership here with taxpayer dollars and and the the um the group.

47:45

So um again, just kind of asking, has there been any advancement in that conversation?

47:50

Or there's been no more.

47:52

Um, I would say I thought we had a resolve back then, but if we need to revisit that, we sure can.

47:56

I don't resolve anything specific for I think we approved the the fund, like the ability to go through and and come up with this big, but I don't believe we'd addressed like anything specific for that verbiage of like how that was going to well, and I don't want to get into thinking about verbiage.

48:16

I think it's like how do we ensure that the community feels welcomed, um, not just through the agency, but I'm understanding that part of their taxpayer dollars rent.

48:31

This is not RAPA's, you know, expensive, which the signage slightly had a suggestion on.

48:39

Usually our agreements are set up so that the city has kind of final authority at the end of the day, but um wondering if you would like to make a copy of that information, you can send it to all the board.

48:49

I will make I'll get the agreement back on share that with the board.

48:53

And um, I'll say two things.

48:55

One is that they committed to make sure it's open and available to the public as well as to their hours of operation, which again we have to say how that goes forward.

49:03

Um, but this is not unlike what we do with other partners when they invest in huge dollars and say, okay, we need to get some things out of this for ourselves as well.

49:12

Well, it's a tennis group or mount biking or whoever they they're they're giving a lot because they aren't they aren't funded very well, they got to raise those money themselves.

49:21

They need to get something back on it for themselves too.

49:23

So it's it's it's a hard balance, and we do this on lots of different things.

49:27

Oh, yeah, yeah.

49:29

Yeah, just uh I I believe I made a similar comment when this came up before if we did not have the partnership with RAPA, we would be doing very similar programs where it we've learned a lot about pickball.

49:42

We we used to think pickleball would be great out in the neighborhood parks, one court here, one court there.

49:48

They love to gather.

49:50

And we would be, and it's part of the you know, the tournament and the education piece and all of that.

50:00

Uh uh, we we would be finding a way to offer that same kind of program, which would then limit public use of their drop-in type use of the courts.

50:11

We consider that public use the same way we consider the swim programs at the right center to be public, even though we're in partnership with the school club.

50:22

So I I definitely uh respect the concern, but um and I I one thing I well that stands out is it's probably just the way we present that it needs to be so I appreciate that, and I'm sure you've worked something out there.

50:39

Right.

50:40

I do I just remember it was something very it's not the partnership aspect, it's just there was something uh very specific about the the choice in wording, which um just stuck poorly.

50:53

Um I apologize, I can't recall exactly what choice and wording are you talking about?

50:58

There's something that was proposed to be within the phrasing that that essentially um during certain times if there was somebody on the court who from the community showed to play, um, but it was a priority time with pickleball association, then they would have the ability to say these individuals should leave.

51:23

Um and and that you know, obviously can play out in any number of ways, but it just um felt prioritizing the pickleball uh association over the taxpayers, which uh it felt like there should be just some change in and wording at the court.

51:44

Yes, and and even in the policy itself.

51:50

Of what the uh what RAPA would receive as far as like priority court time our policy then uh yes, we approved the policy back in what I'll bring I'll I'll get the agreement for you folks together and send it back out so we can look at that.

52:08

Yeah, we have to get the specific language of the yeah.

52:10

Yeah, and I think in detail were not suggesting that any should things should be held up, but it was brought up in our comments about being inclusive um and inviting, and um again brought up in our comment in the board meeting.

52:26

So I'm just you know asking what has been done to address that because it did not feel very inviting to suggest that because you well, it could be interpreted as because RAP I get this.

52:43

Um and that just felt not a position that you'd like to be in.

52:49

Yeah, well, I think other way we're gonna resolve that sudden.

52:52

I would say we have the same kind of agreements with you, baseball and those where Facebook provide funds and they help maintain, but they have to know when they're scheduling scheduling.

53:04

Um usually we do have clouds and their universities and control.

53:09

It's really all of our groups.

53:10

We also talked to all of the having the courts posted too.

53:16

So people understand when the terms can be using it for others, and that's done at pretty much all the courts.

53:25

I know the Eagles had sadly as well.

53:28

So you know, they're there's still in the courts in town that could be used at home at those same times that are over.

53:36

That's a great point.

53:37

So, you know, back when we first started doing pickleball and having cook being that the primary court we had at Cook and Goose Egg, and what was the other one we had?

53:45

That may have been it, frankly.

53:47

Um, we've added courts at Alendale in it.

53:49

Um Slatterly Park and Morris Hills and all these other parks are now available for those that want to drop in.

53:55

These places are available now that they weren't used to be.

53:58

I'll bring up my question.

53:59

I've answered this a couple of times if you put a sign up at Cook telling people where these other courts are that's that's the goal, yes.

54:06

So when it's just what would you sign up?

54:08

Those courts are frankly underutilized, I think by fewer comparison to the main crowd at Cook Park.

54:17

I know there's some courts at the same time on your own, but why don't you send the information out and then we'll look at it and discuss it again?

54:24

We'll do okay.

54:26

Uh so any more question, Marty.

54:28

You had a question?

54:29

So uh Pickleball Association pay their portion over a 10-year period.

54:34

How that being finance?

54:36

I assume we have to pay the vendor immediately.

54:40

We do.

54:40

We've done this on a number of different projects.

54:42

We just use our park reserves and just backfill those funds.

54:45

Yeah, we have a balance in our account that just shows we've got a balance being declining, and we'll see the funds coming in each amp annually.

54:53

We ever had a situation where a group had must kind of maybe defaulted.

55:05

Under that scenario, um, there's always that risk, but I mean they're they're stewards in a they're in a community, they're part of us, and you gotta have trust in them someplace.

55:17

I just wanted to get a perspective out of it.

55:19

Um I mean, things uh things can change from uh popularity of sports uh uh flow sometimes.

55:27

So that would be my concern.

55:29

I would say the 10 years time frame is the standard when we start talking bigger dollars.

55:33

Okay, uh RASC is paying up a $50,000 over 10 years.

55:36

So again, it's 15,000 a year.

55:37

They started that five or six years ago, and and that missed a beat there.

55:42

Um our softball association paid for concession stands out of a quillant.

55:45

That was paid over, I think it I don't have a 20 year time.

55:48

You've read it's a long time frame.

55:52

You might want to look at pickleball like you do at tennis, like you do at golf, um uh baseball, football, hockey, hockey, yeah.

56:04

Giving that puck.

56:06

But really, when you're looking at it, this sport is not gonna wane.

56:11

Well, and you look at the membership of RAPA, it's extensive.

56:16

And as was mentioned, they are members of our community.

56:20

And you're willing to take on a major financial burden.

56:24

I think you pretty much answered the question, and it's standard and has a hand situation, and that's really what I was concerned about.

56:30

Okay, since you have I used to work for the city for a long time.

56:42

We we did one during COVID.

56:44

We did a restructure at uh the recenter, uh, which was one club.

56:49

It was uh their revenues based on tournaments, which were not happening, but that's the closest we've ever since I've been here that we've ever come to.

57:00

Okay, and then that answers the question.

57:01

Okay, any other question?

57:03

That uh should be uh still need to approve this, I believe.

57:09

Question on that.

57:10

Do we need two motions or one?

57:13

You can do one motion, say both items right now.

57:16

Yeah, or you do two separate your choice.

57:20

Um I'll take a motion to approve uh number one and two, the authorization of the award of cook park, pickleball, alternate two concrete courts, Rochester State and Gravel, the amount of 347,799 and 20 cents, and number two authorizing staff utilize not more than 25,000 from general park reserves to cover additional costs to complete the project if needed.

57:48

I'll stay on that.

57:49

Uh second Martin motion mark, all kinds of say aye.

57:54

Oh all right, and then Mike will get the information.

57:58

Uh take a look at that again.

58:00

Okay.

58:01

I'll send that out.

58:02

All right.

58:02

Uh the next item on the agenda is 9C Hadley Creek Gulf Force Public Repairs.

58:07

Is that another mic item?

58:09

Nope.

58:09

Oh, yeah.

58:11

No, it's small.

58:15

Oh, I had this right in front of me.

58:16

Uh stop sharing.

58:19

Let me uh get this in front of you.

58:21

Uh I'll I'll go ahead and just talk about the uh timeline.

58:25

I was uh planning on addressing that, but uh very similar situation to uh the pickleball.

58:33

Uh ours kind of even closer.

58:35

Uh we received the bid deadline was today.

58:39

So between noon and two o'clock, I put that information together.

58:43

Uh we're working with uh our uh facilities uh team on this and uh got very good support.

58:53

And the there was uh the base quote, which well let me back up and just tell you why we're doing this project.

59:01

Uh Hadley Creek uh clubhouse is approximately 18 years old.

59:07

Does that sound about right?

59:09

Uh there was some work that probably wasn't done properly to begin with.

59:13

The installation of the indoors and doors.

59:16

Uh anywhere there is uh uh window, we've we've uh pretty much everywhere we've experienced uh water intrusion when there's a storm.

59:25

Uh especially uh uh noticeable where the damage has been done on the north side of the building.

59:32

There's actually sub flooring that is uh probably not safe at this point.

59:37

And uh we've uh known this for a while, and uh we've recently talked about golf and the capital uh improvement uh funding that we have, and this is uh uh one of the projects that's been a high priority, and we want to apply those funds.

59:55

Uh we received three quotes uh for the work.

1:00:00

Uh the base work is just uh pretty much uh the known uh items, uh the damage.

1:00:06

Uh they'll be pulling drywall off the walls and uh uh replacing subfloor uh replacing insulation.

1:00:15

Uh as much as they the windows are actually very good quality windows, so they'll be taking them off and reinstalling them after they did the uh uh water, uh all the uh things that need to happen to prevent the water from coming in.

1:00:32

And uh so the base quote uh as you can see.

1:00:36

Um the low quote was the frame or contracting at about uh just under 60,000.

1:00:45

Uh and you see the other two 69,000 92,000.

1:00:50

Uh there were two alternates that were put in.

1:00:53

We were uh we wanted to keep these as alternates because these are things that could have been done later on uh or bid separately, but uh uh that is uh replacing all the pouring throughout the building, and then uh replace the exterior doors.

1:01:11

And we're recommending that we uh approve the Kramer contracting quote, both the base bid and the two alternates.

1:01:19

The total will be just over 86,000.

1:01:22

And I did point out uh there were some uh unit pricing that was included in the bid.

1:01:32

That is if they uh if we find out there's uh adjacent water damage that we're not really planning on that we'd be able to move forward with that.

1:01:42

If there's windows that are broken uh or the seals are broken, uh we'll be able to replace the windows and report with that.

1:01:49

So it could uh potentially be a little higher based on on that.

1:01:55

Uh just wanted to share that.

1:01:56

Um but uh uh we're we're pretty confident we've got fairly good handle on the scope of the project, and we're recommending your approval of the Kramer contracting quote, which comes to 86,199 questions?

1:02:14

Like, do you have a card?

1:02:15

Can I add one item here?

1:02:17

And I'm not sure Paul's even aware of this.

1:02:19

Maybe you are that this building was not a building of city built.

1:02:23

This is a building that we inherited.

1:02:25

So, yeah, it's not a quality that we put together.

1:02:28

We got this building as part of the a land swap deal for the golf horse being built and the development route of being built.

1:02:35

So we inherit it, it wasn't a city built structure, just for clarification.

1:02:40

I do know it's worth mentioning, but I appreciate that.

1:02:47

Given that, is there any chance there's gonna be far worse uh situation when you get in there?

1:02:53

We've had I I would say we uh based on the confidence I have in everybody that's put eyes on this.

1:03:01

We're working with TSB uh architects as uh project management, and uh they have extensive experience with uh this type of work.

1:03:12

Uh could there be some things that were you know not discovered with they they did some borings in the walls and in the floors?

1:03:22

Um yeah, potentially there could, but I I think they really have a good handle on where the damage was.

1:03:27

They kind of traced it out from the windows and it went uh each way, and then within the building.

1:03:35

Um but uh I so there could be surprises, but you don't expect major well.

1:03:45

So not promising, but not expecting it.

1:03:48

Are any other questions?

1:03:50

Is there a motion to authorize the repair recreate?

1:03:58

Kramer money is 86, 99,000.

1:04:03

What is it?

1:04:04

86199.

1:04:06

Okay.

1:04:06

So second fall, all in favor say aye.

1:04:13

Approved.

1:04:14

Okay.

1:04:15

The next item uh is the Rochester Recreation Center South Right between me if we have a range agreement.

1:04:25

Well, we have Perin Rooney, the recreation center manager.

1:04:28

Uh I just want to let you know, and uh she has uh our full support, mindful support in the way she's uh put this together.

1:04:38

I think it's a really good opportunity for the recreation center.

1:04:42

And uh we have talked with about naming rights.

1:04:46

Um I think we shared some highlights over the past several years.

1:04:51

Um we voted last class five.

1:04:54

Uh we did a different uh agreement at the Rick Center.

1:05:00

And um this does follow the policies that were developed and approved by the board going back to 2016.

1:05:10

And with that, I'll turn it over to Corinne and uh she can give you the details and be prepared for any questions that come up.

1:05:20

Yeah, so the the last few years I've been trying to really focus on what can we do to get more people in the rec center or take what we already have there and just make it better.

1:05:30

And the conversation with OMC started last summer is more of a casual conversation about um training their athletes in the summertime and the off season, and how can we partner with them and utilize the rec center to enhance their experience and and also to enhance their programs.

1:05:51

So we were able to do that last summer from a hockey perspective.

1:05:54

Um that conversation led into bigger discussions.

1:06:00

And really, how do we put the rec center on the map as more of a health and wellness center for the community?

1:06:08

Um, and that's where this kind of partnership proposal took shape.

1:06:13

And what this proposal is made up of is um we'll go over the scope of it and then what it means for the building, the community, and as a partner, what we can offer um throughout this process.

1:06:27

So as we said before, this is a partnership.

1:06:32

Um, this does involve naming rights to the CELT rank and the gymnasium.

1:06:38

Um, this is something that we feel will elevate uh the rec center and kind of just add on to what we already do there.

1:06:48

Um, this is a 10-year agreement.

1:06:50

Um, it would involve, like I said, the naming rights to the South Rank and the gym.

1:06:54

So these spaces would now be called the OMC Arena and the OMC performance gym.

1:07:00

Umc would be responsible for um the cost of the signage as mentioned there.

1:07:07

And the investment would be 25,000 over the 10 year period for a total of a 250,000 investment into the facility.

1:07:15

Um in addition to this, OMC would also be investing in $30,000 worth of gym equipment.

1:07:26

Um this equipment is designed to allow our current activities to still occur like normal.

1:07:33

So right now, things we do in the gym, like um pickleball, family gym, uh birthday parties, accessible rec.

1:07:41

We use it for swim meets, um, for any sort of big event that we have there, those events would still go on as normal, and the equipment is designed to either be out of the way of all that or to be put in storage when it's not being used.

1:07:55

Um we basically felt so we have here the $30,000 in gym equipment, the signage that is in would be in pre-approved areas would promote health and fitness throughout the throughout the facility.

1:08:10

Um we really talked about how do we involve the community.

1:08:17

It's not just the athletes, but how do we involve the community into this experience?

1:08:21

And we talked about doing things like event tables at events like Grizzly Games, which brings in over a thousand fans a game, most of them are from the Rochester community or surrounding communities.

1:08:32

We talked about having events like family fun nights or family skate nights where we bring the community in, let them enjoy an activity at the rec center, and then also have an educational piece to it about health and wellness and nutrition, things like that.

1:08:47

Um we also feel that our current users would benefit greatly from this.

1:08:55

So we have our partners like the Grizzlies, the Rochester Figure Skating Club, the Swim Club, um, youth hockey that some of those are already current partners with OMC, but this would allow them to get kind of their training all under one roof as well at times.

1:09:10

Um so we really felt that this would be a good opportunity to not only give them an enhanced experience in a smaller setting under one roof, but also be able to have um you know things like workshops and and stuff like that for the community.

1:09:31

So basically, this obviously is a tremendous financial investment from OMC into the facility, but we look at this as also a really good partnership that we can have over the years and bring an aspect into the building that we've actually never had before.

1:09:46

Um it's new for for us, it's new for them.

1:09:50

So it's it would definitely be something where along the way we we kind of discuss and add like what can we do to make things better?

1:09:57

Um, what can we do for the community that's not already already currently in the building, things like that.

1:10:01

Things like that.

1:10:02

Um they are here today if you do have any questions about what some of the ideas that we picked around before um in in all these discussions over the past year.

1:10:11

Um, but we're we're looking forward to hopefully moving forward with the partnership.

1:10:16

Okay.

1:10:17

Thank you very much.

1:10:18

Are there any questions from board members?

1:10:21

This party.

1:10:22

I just want to make Kyle.

1:10:24

Um, I've been a regular user in the Rec Center for 47 years, and I have to say that the facility is much better maintained now than it has in the past, and we see that.

1:10:36

I appreciate it.

1:10:38

Well, it's a it's a destination for Rochester.

1:10:42

I mean, we we want it to be a destination for Roger, so we want to make we want to make it better every every year.

1:10:48

So we're hoping that this partnership will do that.

1:10:51

Any other questions from board members?

1:10:54

Yes, I have one comment.

1:10:56

I think it's uh it seems to me like you're the best of both worlds for us.

1:11:00

We get some additional funding, but more than that, there's some services there that are convenient for members that are in some cases looking for some suggestions or how to improve their their health through friends.

1:11:14

Right to me, it sounds like a nice mix, but uh there are any questions or comments by the any other board members.

1:11:24

If not, is there a motion to approve this naming rights agreement and laid out by Corinne?

1:11:34

Following motion and second, all second, mark second.

1:11:39

Uh all in favor say aye.

1:11:41

Aye question pass unanimously have a comment.

1:11:45

Kareem, could you introduce your partners over here?

1:11:48

Yeah, so Brittany and Joel are from OMC, and they've been involved in our discussions over the past throughout the past year.

1:11:57

Um yeah, we're really looking forward to the partnership.

1:12:01

They've been great to work with.

1:12:03

So yes, thank you for being here.

1:12:06

Thank you for the partnership and thank you for your leadership up there.

1:12:12

Thank you very much.

1:12:14

Okay.

1:12:16

Lynn, we are at other business.

1:12:20

I don't know of any other business that we've already found for this meeting.

1:12:26

No, um, just looking at the schedule board meetings.

1:12:29

Uh this has been resolved at just in case uh um Mike and I uh will likely be out of town for the July part board meeting.

1:12:40

Uh Ben, we're here with both grandcompass now.

1:12:44

So we're having but uh Ben will be here and take on the board meeting.

1:12:50

Um this just giving you a pizza on that.

1:12:58

Gary, I think it'd be a good time to review their contracts.

1:13:04

That's good.

1:13:07

Very insightful comment.

1:13:09

Yeah, yeah.

1:13:10

I appreciate the point to tell you there was an error on the um future meeting schedule of the end of a camera.

1:13:21

And she's gonna crack.

1:13:22

Oh, okay.

1:13:23

They had October 10, and that's not the second is there on our thing is October 6.

1:13:31

All right.

1:13:32

Having no other business is there a lesson to adjourn anybody?

1:13:37

Soundy third second, all in favor say aye.

1:13:41

Aye.

1:13:41

Motion approved the air.

1:13:43

Thank you, folks.

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Summary of Proceedings

Rochester Park Board Meeting Summary - March 3, 2026

The Rochester Park Board met on March 3, 2026 at 4:30 PM in City Hall Conference Room 104 to discuss and act on several items including park projects, financial reports, and a naming rights agreement. All five present members voted unanimously on all actions taken.

Consent Calendar

  • Bulk Playground Mulch Order: Authorized the purchase of playground mulch from Best Rubber Mulch.
  • Golf Course Concession Contracts: Approved concession contracts for Eastwood and Northern Hills Golf Courses.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Tammy Gross (President, Rochester Area Pickleball Association - RAPA): Expressed full support for rebuilding the pickleball courts at Cook Park, emphasizing how pickleball brings together diverse community members and strengthens connections. She acknowledged concerns about priority play for association members, stating that their goal is not to create exclusivity but to support a system that works for everyone—casual players, new players, families, and organized groups.

Discussion Items

  • Project CIP Overview: Parks and Forestry Division Head Mike Nigbur presented a detailed overview of the Capital Improvement Plan (CIP) project financials, funding sources (tax levy, grants, partnerships, donations, activity-generated revenue), and planning. He reviewed numerous projects including disease tree removal, playground replacements, Quarry Hill improvements, Cascade Lake fiber/Wi-Fi, Plummer House renovations, park safety surfacing, Silver Lake dredging, Oxbow trail, central dog park, natural resource inventory, Game Haven mountain biking expansion, and Kutzky tennis courts. The board discussed the history and funding of the Flood Control Project. A request was made to authorize reserve funding for the relocation of wood waste processing from its current site (due to nearby development) to KR3 on 19th Street Northwest. Staff requested $70,000 total ($35,000 from each of two years) from department reserves. The board approved the funding.
  • Cook Park Pickleball Renovation: Staff presented five bids for the renovation of pickleball courts. The recommendation was for Alternate 2 (concrete courts) awarded to Rochester Sand and Gravel at $347,799.20, with an additional $25,000 contingency from General Park Reserves. Discussion included transparency around bid details, the relative costs of asphalt vs. concrete, and concerns about priority court time for RAPA versus public use. Commissioner Morgan expressed concern about verbiage in the agreement that could feel exclusive to taxpayers who also contributed public dollars. Staff explained that similar arrangements exist with other user groups (e.g., tennis, baseball). Commissioner Cormack inquired about the 10-year financing of RAPA's portion and default risks. Staff stated the 10-year timeframe is standard for larger-dollar agreements. President Neumann suggested signage at Cook Park directing users to other pickleball courts. The board approved the motion.
  • Hadley Creek Golf Course Clubhouse Repairs: The bid deadline was March 3, 2026 at 11:00 AM. Three quotes were received. The recommendation was to accept Kramer Contracting's bid of $86,199 (base bid $59,998 plus two alternates). Staff described water intrusion issues, subfloor damage, and planned work including drywall removal, insulation replacement, and window reinstallation. Unit pricing was included for potential additional work due to unforeseen conditions. Commissioner Cormack inquired about surprises; staff expressed confidence in the scope but acknowledged potential for undiscovered damage. The board approved the bid.
  • Rochester Recreation Center South Rink and Gymnasium Naming Rights Agreement and Partnership: Recreation Center Manager Caryn Rooney presented a 10-year naming rights agreement with Olmsted Medical Center (OMC). The south rink and gymnasium would be named "OMC Arena" and "OMC Performance Gym." OMC will invest $25,000 annually ($250,000 total) and provide $30,000 in gym equipment. Additional deliverables include community events like family fun nights and educational workshops. Commissioner Cormack noted the facility is much better maintained now than in the past. President Neumann thanked Rooney and OMC representatives (Brittany and Joel) for their efforts. The board approved the agreement.

Key Outcomes

  • Minutes Approved: Minutes of February 10, 2026 meeting approved unanimously (5 ayes, 2 absent).
  • Monthly Reports Received and Filed: Parks and Recreation Department monthly reports for February 2026 received and filed.
  • Monthly Bills Approved: February 2026 bills approved unanimously.
  • Financial Performance Report Received and Filed: Year-to-date financials through February 2026 received and filed.
  • Consent Agenda Approved: Bulk Playground Mulch Order and Golf Course Concession Contracts approved unanimously.
  • CIP Overview – Wood Waste Processing: Authorized reserve funding of $70,000 ($35,000 from each of two years) for the relocation of wood waste processing. Motion carried unanimously.
  • Cook Park Pickleball Renovation: Authorized award of Concrete Alternate 2 to Rochester Sand and Gravel for $347,799.20, plus up to $25,000 from General Park Reserves as contingency. Motion carried unanimously.
  • Hadley Creek Golf Course Clubhouse Repairs: Authorized bid award to Kramer Contracting for $86,199 (base bid + alternates #1 and #2), with unit pricing for potential additional work. Motion carried unanimously.
  • Rec Center Naming Rights: Approved 10-year naming rights agreement between the City of Rochester and Olmsted Medical Center for the Recreation Center South Rink and Gymnasium. Motion carried unanimously.
  • Agenda Planner: Staff noted that Director Widman and Nigbur may be absent for the July meeting; Ben will attend. Commissioner Cormack noted a date error on the agenda planner: the October meeting should be October 6 (not October 10).
  • Adjournment: Meeting adjourned unanimously.

Meeting Transcript

Thank you very much. All right. First item on our agenda is there's any questions by any of the board members on our group of agenda. I'm not seeing any on that. So then we'll go ahead and start with roll calls starting in Mark. Marty Carnack Ward 1. Paul Marina Ward 2. Representative. Next item on our agenda is the approval of the net for the February 10th movie. Are any questions anyone hands on minutes? Seeing none, is my motion to approve. Um large, all favor say aye. Aye. So the next item on our agenda would be in the open comment period. We have one person signed up. Emmy Gross from the Rochester Pickle Ball Association. And if you'd like to speak for would you like to get the same here or you can stay on this two minutes? We have two minutes. We go I won't go beyond that. Okay. Thank you. Um, so good afternoon, members of the park board. And thank you for this opportunity to speak. My name is Tammy Gross, and I am the president of Rochester area pickleball association for 2026. Um, today we're here to ask for your support to rebuild the pickleball courts at Cook Park. Um pickleball is unique in that you know that it brings together youth, seniors, families, new residents, mail clinic, bond visitors, in a way that very few other activities in this community can provide. Um we feel that it strengthens the community connections and helps support active living and low barrier ways for people to stay healthy and engaged. Rebuilding Cook Courts will provide a high quality, durable and welcoming space for players of all ages and abilities. One thing that I do want to acknowledge is the conversation we've had in the past about priority play for association members. Um we understand that that can be a sensitive topic, especially as the sport grows in our community. Our goal is to not create exclusivity or to limit access to this park. Our goal is to support a system that works for everyone, casual players, new players, families, and organized groups. Our position is very simple. The Rochester Area Pinnaball Association is committed to helping build this sport. We value our concurrent partnership with the parks department to make this project a reality. And we respectfully ask your approval to move this part project forward so that Cook Park can continue to serve as a vibrant safe and well-maintained recreational asset for the entire community. Thank you very much, Gary. And we will have that item on as 9B today, and our staff will explain the discussion that they've had with our partners for the list, which is the rapper group, and uh we may get a signal like that on that time. All right. Um next item on our agenda is the market partly reports as usual. We are full of information and all the things. Paul, were you uh did you want to point out any specific items in there? I think one of the big milestones was the uh uh bean signing of the new maintenance facility that we'll be moving in soon to the end of the year. Hopefully, much sooner than that. We're thinking early fall, if not slightly sooner than that. Okay, and that's uh coming along with the partnership with uh our um the public works team. Um it's just really funny. I think there's uh what's really what we're seeing is the efficiencies are coming from those who uh really know what they're doing, those that are doing uh uh work and assigned uh all the activities and uh that part of it is so far moving each other in fact really positive direction um we'll keep hosting with Marx. Okay, I don't think I my question is what happens to the facility in the when we ran them in the land. I will know that we the board will need to uh turn that over to the city.

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