0:14We're going to start this the distance advisory on transit uh meeting.
0:19We don't currently have quorum, but in efforts of the time, we will be having our presenter begin his presentation, and that's Matt Lynch.
0:28And as we uh if more advisory committee members come, we can um start the meeting officially.
0:34So, Matt, uh the floor is yours.
0:37And uh as Rachel said, my name is Matt Lynch.
0:40My title is Mode Shift Coordinator.
0:41I report to community development on behalf of the city of Rochester.
0:45And I want to thank you for the opportunity to present to Cis and Advisory and Transit in the public.
0:49And first I'd like to update the Citizen Advisory Own Transit that City of Rochester was awarded a MINDAT Act Transportation Planning Assistance Grant and support from MINDAC consultants to complete that work.
1:00So thank you for the letter of support that was approved several meetings ago.
1:04That was a successful grant uh application.
1:07And what I'd like to focus on in today's presentation is how mode shift and transportation demand management abbreviated as TBM support a stronger transit system and better access for destinations across Rochester.
1:20So for this audience, uh what I want to be clear is that I'm not telling people uh is that this presentation is not telling people how they should travel.
1:30Driving remains an important and will remain important for many trips.
1:34Uh this is about whether Rochester as a city we can give people real workable options for how they move about the city, especially when transit could serve a trip well.
1:44And so I want to ground uh this presentation in adopted direction and the ideas that I'm sharing today are not new policy direction.
1:51They are about implementation and about making our transit uh and access investments work better together for a more efficient system overall.
2:00So I just like to ask that you might consider uh recent transit trip or even a trip that could have been taken by transit.
2:06What would have made it easier?
2:08Um would it have been uh safer to walk to the staff, a shorter weight, easier information to gather and understand the trip uh overall, maybe more comfortable transfer or perhaps even a lower cost.
2:20So I want to start there because transportation can become abstract very quickly.
2:25And this uh is about uh this this thought keeps us grounded in lived experience, how we travel and what in what makes a trip actually usable for real people in real needs.
2:38So this the reason this work exists is that Rochester already recognized the need to improve how people access downtown and major destinations or activity centers.
2:48And Rochester's growth and constrained downtown access is a key issue uh that's guiding these these initiatives.
2:57So transit is part of the solution as you see here in the targets uh for mode shift and link and fixed uh local transit investments, they all need to work as intended.
3:10So downtown planning, destination medical center, and link all reflect this very same underlying reality that in a growing city, especially in a constrained downtown environment, we cannot rely only on everyone driving alone for every trip and still expect the system to work well.
3:27Um so for this this group, I just want to emphasize that the conversation is really about access.
3:33How do we help more people reach uh jobs, uh healthcare services and daily destinations in ways that are practical, uh affordable, uh, and transit is a key part of that answer.
3:46So I want to define these two terms more simply.
3:49Mode shift is what we want to see as an outcome.
3:52It is uh more people have the option to walk, roll, bicycle, take transit, or share rides for trips where those options make sense.
4:01And so transportation management or TDM is the tool set.
4:05It includes these policies, programs, it could be pricing, the information, the design of the facilities, the maintenance choices that make those options options practical, uh reliable and attractive.
4:17So for this group, TDM is not about it's not separate from transit, it is one of the ways to help transit succeed.
4:24So TDM can support things like employer transit benefits, better wayfinding to transit access, first and last mile connections, uh, parking management, and coordination with major destinations so that transit is more competitive for all the options available and easier to use.
4:41So the progress I'll show here is is mixed.
4:44And I do want to be careful not to overplay precision here where the data is merely directional.
4:48Uh the big takeaway is that Rochester still very much relies heavily on driving.
4:52You could see that in the top yellow line.
4:54Uh that means that transit and other options still have significant room to grow, but only if they're useful, connected, and durable to different uh issues or pressures.
5:00That means that transit and other options still have significant room to grow, but only if they're useful, connected, and durable to different uh issues or pressures.
5:05So we're consistently hearing through planning efforts and engagement that people want more practical choices beyond driving.
5:12So the question is not whether there is interest, the question is whether the system supports that interest enough for people to actually act on it and have that be a viable option.
5:22So by the data from the American Community Survey that we see here from the Census Bureau, you see two statistics that we can take here is in 2019 remote work or worked at home did increase substantially.
5:36And then the drove alone rates did decrease slightly, but they still remain quite plateaued.
5:45Uh still about 65.5% of the drove alone in 2023.
5:49And then the remainder of the uh legend that we see the different modes that were taken in the survey, there was too small of a uh sample taken on those modes that we can't the margin of error was too great for us to be able to take statistics from those alone.
6:07So the next few maps that I'll share use replica model data, and that is a strategic planning tool.
6:14It's not a direct count of uses, it should just simply be used with judgment alongside operations, safety, and design context.
6:22And so, what this helps us do is understand where track where access demand is concentrated, and where some trips may have realistic potential to be served differently for the network, if only if the network works.
6:35And so uh for this group, I think these maps are useful because they do help us improve and move beyond a narrow commute lens.
6:42They almost think about how people access downtown and major destinations more broadly throughout the community.
6:47That could be for appointments, it could be for errands, school, work, or just everyday life.
6:52And so I start with this map intentionally because it does show the motorized access and circulation where they're concentrated today.
6:59You see that these are all trips that work to the downtown area drawn just about in this general area.
7:09And so uh this matters because downtown Rochester have has we can't we have to acknowledge it.
7:16It has real uh motor vehicle access needs, including patient visitor service, freight, and pickup and drop-off activity on a routine basis.
7:25So the goal is not to deny that reality, the goal is just simply to understand where vehicle access will matter, continue to matter, and where some trips might be better served by transit and connected low stress multimodal networks.
7:38So where the question that the citizens value in transit can routinely ask is where can transit realistically carrying more of the access burden, especially where street and parking space may be limited.
7:51And this map here shows where trips under about one uh 1.1 miles.
7:57So it's not about it's it is about 1.1 miles.
8:00Uh, these are trips that could feasibly be walked or rolled in about 20 minutes.
8:05So for this group, I would just simply frame this as a first mile, last mile map.
8:10Uh, consider all that concentration to the downtown core.
8:13Not necessarily not necessarily saying that those trips could all be last mile or first mile, just simply the pressure on the downtown.
8:21Look at how many of those trips could be absorbed effectively by walking trips.
8:25So very short, very short trips point us towards simple crossings, sidewalks, curb ramps, comfort, winter reliability, and more direct pedestrian routes.
8:34And in a downtown and medical district setting, those details matter a great deal.
8:39So some of the strongest opportunities uh to support transit may simply be making it easier and safe for people to walk and roll, where transit already exists, making those access points easier.
8:51So, what I'll show next is a map where a similar concept where this just expands in trips to about 3.6 miles, which replica identifies as trips that may be feasible within a bicycle ride that takes about 20 minutes.
9:05That does not mean that every short trip should suddenly shift to cycling.
9:08It does show though that cycling and micromobility become more realistic if the network is connected direct and comfortable.
9:15So for this group, that matters because bicycling, e-bicycling, and micromobility, they can all extend the reach to transit uh beyond a comfortable walking distance.
9:25In other words, this can help the transit work for more people by improving access to stops and destinations.
9:33And I do want to emphasize to reinforce the point that from a Brookings Institute study, cities are planning now around total access, not only commute access.
9:43In Rochester, people who travel not only for work but also for appointments, clearance, school, meals, and daily life.
9:49Those are real needs that we can be planning for.
9:51We're seeing the vast majority of trips are those types of trips rather than commutes.
9:56So this is important context because nothing, like I said, is just describing today as new policy.
10:00At the foundation, we have our comprehensive plan that supersedes all other planning documents that the city of Rochester holds and has adopted.
10:08So taken together these plans support a more integrated transit system and transportation system and with realistic options and stronger access, it becomes a more integrated and efficient system overall.
10:21So for this group, the most important point is that Rochester has adopted these plans already and supports transit as a part of a broader access strategy.
10:30They already point toward a connected system with reduced dependence on driving alone and also a more practical transportation choice menu of options available to the community.
10:41So the question is not whether transit should be a part of the future, the practical, the question is how to implement that future in a more coordinated and practical way.
10:49That's where TDM comes into play.
10:51So mode shift and TDM are not transportation ideas, tend to be in isolation.
10:56They connect directly to outcomes that we already care about as a city and as a transit community.
11:02And there are also household cost dimensions to this.
11:05Transportation is one of the biggest recurring expenses for families.
11:08And when households rely on owning, insuring, fueling, maintaining, and parking multiple vehicles just to meet everyday needs, that creates some real financial pressure in a household.
11:20So transit matters in part because it can reduce that pressure and expand access without requiring every trip to depend on a personal vehicle.
11:27So from an access and equity perspective, not everyone can drive, whether that's due to age, to disability, income, or other life circumstances, uh jobs, health care, and education, and those daily needs, though, they still have to be reached.
11:42So from a health and safety standpoint, the way we're designing these system, it affects stress, injury risk, and everyday physical activity.
11:50We can make those benefits and mitigate some of those risks by having more connected uh different.
11:57This is really a conversation about affordability, access, health, and long-term resilience.
12:02And transit is one of those ways that can make uh support the opportunity community interest waste.
12:07So the framing, if you really want you in keeping, is that is perhaps the freedom not to have to drive.
12:15So that does not mean everyone will stop driving or that driving is somehow wrong.
12:19It means that people should have a realistic option when transit walking, rolling, or cycling or a shared trip could work for different needs and uses.
12:28So I just want to acknowledge that reality because people have kids, I do myself, I drove our minivan to go pick up our children from child care because they weren't going to do it by themselves.
12:37And that is what that's the trip that worked for our family in the mode that I chose to make that happen.
12:42So we all have schedules that are not in our controls.
12:45Uh we have uh some people have different mobility needs, and we live in a climate that's not always easy to navigate year-round.
12:52So it's exactly why transit and connected access matters.
12:55So the goal is not a theoretical choice, but a practical choice for the community.
13:01But like I said earlier, I do not have my materials for you, which would visualize stuffing as many trips represented by volleyballs, golf balls, and boxes for transit or buses into a quad gallon bucket.
13:15But I do have a visual that will get the same point across where you can see here how much space a trip actually takes.
13:22This isn't only moving through the area, uh, the right-of-way, but it's also perhaps where you're ending your trip, where you're storing your vehicle, your device, your your goods, whatever materials you bring with you.
13:36This is just a visual representation of what that could look like and why this efficiency could be had if we have more diverse modes in our transportation system.
13:45So the system that uh only works for ideal users, that's not gonna be a successful system overall.
13:50And so not every household has the same level of vehicle access and even household with vehicles may not even have easy access to it for every person or every trip.
13:59Uh, we have we have a single car in our household, and sometimes I'll walk out expecting to use the minivan when uh it's thunderstorming or something, you know, inclement weather, and I'll see that my wife's already taken the car and I'm thinking, all right, well, I just got to suit up and ride my bike to get there, I guess.
14:14Um, or I do plan ahead and I kind of use uh I've used the RPT bus to get there when those trips work for me.
14:22So we have design for parents, older adults, young people who don't have the ability to drive because they are of age, uh, people with disabilities and workers with non-traditional hours that we have many of in our community, probably a disproportionate amount.
14:35So people who simply do not have access to a car is who we have to also be planning for in our translating system.
14:41And the simple test is this is that can someone who cannot drive make an everyday trip safely and comfortably without a car.
14:49That's really a good pressure test that we are asking ourselves in as city staff.
14:54Um, if the answer is no, the system is incomplete.
15:00So for this group, this is especially relevant because transit is often the mode that fills that gap, uh, but it's only if the service in the surrounding network actually work together.
15:07And this may be the most important slide.
15:10Why did I save it for now?
15:13But transit does not work well in fragments.
15:16Um, and it if sidewalks crossing the shelters, the stop access, the cycling connections, the information, the frequency.
15:24If all that does not function as a connected system, the system fails.
15:28And so any one of those pieces breaks down, the trip becomes harder, less predictable, less appealing, and perhaps people may default to not considering options and going to drive and park.
15:39So a sidewalk that ends abruptly, a difficult crossing or an accessible stop, uh that can break down a trip, a total trip.
15:47And when that happens, transit stops begin uh transit stops become less of real options for short everyday trips.
15:55So even if that service technically exists, it's not a viable option for that trip.
16:00Uh people are often willing to walk roll bicycle and take transit for short trips if the networks work well.
16:06Um, so that matters a lot to the system actually supporting those everyday needs.
16:12So, examples of what TDM is is the set of tools that help people use the transportation system more efficiently and with more choice.
16:21So that could include policies, programs, pricing information, design of facilities or maintenance strategies that make transit walking, rolling and cycling, even carpooling more practical.
16:33So, in these simple terms, mode shift is that outcome, and then what we have here, TDM is how part of how we get there.
16:41So, for this audience, what I would like to emphasize the key point is that TDM is not separate from transit.
16:46It is one of the ways to help transit succeed.
16:49And TDM can include things like employer transit benefits, better rider information, wayfinding, even some first and last mile improvements, uh parking management, cycling, bicycle parking, or or uh scooter parking and maintenance practices that help keep those transit stops and access routes usable year-round.
17:08So TDM is not about uh anti-automobile, it is about making the whole system work better and giving real people real workable options.
17:17So, what I want to close by is bringing this back to citizen advisory on transit role.
17:23I'm not here only to make a case for mode shift, um, but I'm also here because citizen this this commission can help identify where transit breaks down or when that access breaks down and which near-term changes would matter most when different projects and issues are presented.
17:40So, what would help pressure test where the Rochester's uh city's transit supportive network is strongest, or where it breaks down and which near-term change would make the biggest difference is by simple asking excuse me, asking some of these simple questions around what you are what you are considering at each patient, each project or uh crossroads.
18:03So, with that, I would like to just simply ask if there are any questions I can answer them now, or this is also a uh presentation you wish to digest at a later time, it's been recorded.
18:16I'm happy to follow up and provide my contact information.
18:19Matt, would you mind?
18:21I know um Parker and Jesse can have missed the beginning, but trying to big catalyst for that.
18:26Um for inviting you here tonight, which was an update on that grant that we support it.
18:31Yes, so uh Minnesota Department of Transportation Planning Assistance Grant, the assistance by Board of Transit approved a letter of support.
18:39That application was successful, and we were granted the actual transportation planning assistance grant.
18:44It will consolidate the outcomes of many of the Rochester City Rochester plans that have been adopted, and we will consolidate into a framework of implementation around transportation demand management.
18:55So we will determine what are those effective uh high impact, perhaps low resource, even high resource steps we could be taking to provide more transportation options here in Rochester.
19:10So you are not a lot.
19:12You all have uh a lot more uh man hours available to you with the expertise to be able to uh logistically get these things together.
19:24And by September, we plan to have a framework uh for implementation.
19:30So that's part of the action plan that we have at the city that we will be working towards that timeline.
19:35Framework by September.
19:37Will there be an update later on that or would it just be putting them back there?
19:42Once the plan is done, Matt will come back and provide the preliminary report.
19:45Happy to do any other questions for Matt?
19:54No, um at this time.
19:57If we don't want to rewatch the first part of the presentation, I had a question about the uh the sidewalk part.
20:00I had a question about the uh the sidewalk part.
20:02Um if you're able to go back to that slide, it was I I do really appreciate how we need to use things to show.
20:08Um the whole thing there, that reminds me a lot of the times, you know, I imagine going to city government offices don't always connect to each other in those fast way.
20:21So have you guys considered trying to make a case to either the relevant office or the city council itself to remove the ordinance or to uh undo the uh ordinance regulation, whatever that prevents that basically tells people they can't touch the sidewalk whatsoever because I know there was um I remember one time I was uh learning some things and some people in neighborhood, there was this one sidewalk where it was just you know, really often it was a tripping hazard, and the lady there just had to wait until the city would finally get around to that that being on a priority list because if she took the soil underneath it to level it out and make it accessible for wheelchairs, she'd be great with the law.
21:07Yeah, no, I think that that it's not breaking the law, but it's it's it's putting the city at a high amount of liability.
21:13And it's not, I want to kind of remain refocus the way that that's looked at.
21:16The the sidewalks are evaluated on an annual basis, and we'll see that you'll see like stripes on the sidewalk for those.
21:22And so there's an annual sidewalk improvement program that everyone that lives within the city pays into, and that used to be physically assessed.
21:31And so if that sidewalk was in front of your property, you'd be charged the entire rate of the repair of that sidewalk.
21:37And now that's distributed amongst every resident.
21:40So people aren't being hit with $4,000, $5,000 repair fees.
21:44But I think it's important to look at it with a network framework in mind.
21:50The city only has limited resources and a limited crew, and they do go out in a sense that we cannot have private homeowners making repairs to the sidewalks because that also throws up the database that we have to maintain those sidewalks.
22:03So, and it's also city property in that easement.
22:08And I have routine agreements with sidewalk improvement district program reads within public works, and then they get individual notices of like in the springtime, some heaving that may occur with our three thaw cycles.
22:21Uh, that group cares deeply about providing that access to the community.
22:26And so when there might be those ad hoc instances and they're contacted, it's reported through 301 or whatever mechanism, it does get addressed because we know how important that network connectivity is.
22:38And I'll I'll expand upon what Matt said 311 is the report full of our trees that are overgrown.
22:44If there's uh one of the things I recently learned is that you know, like a limb of a tree branch falls and that limb is over two inches, that's like when it kind of triggers the tree to be looked at for like additional investigation.
22:57But if a homeowner clears that branch and doesn't report it that it was over two inches and never gets logged into the system.
23:03And so, like we need that data to be able to build a sufficient system as well.
23:07But every one of those things is reported through 311, and you can do it by calling, or you can do it through the app.
23:15What chap would this one be?
23:20And I actually meant to use it on my way home earlier today because there wasn't any branch over a path, but I'll make sure to submit that on the and the tree stuff can get weird because you have to put it in address, but they they're okay with you just putting in the closest landmark.
23:35So there's church or something else that's close to it, that's the best route to go.
23:41Yeah, but I guess the way my mind was working was just was uh I'm glad to hear about the this team and all that um and the the data aspect of it.
23:50What my was just thinking was like if we're trying to solve this vast problem of building networks, how can you remove some barriers to it getting you know done, especially in these days when the city is having lower funds than we used to?
24:06Um well, and I think like that's the biggest thing is just communicating that and not feeling that it's your responsibility the city is here to help, but you need to be able to report that so again there's a miles and miles of network sidewalks that's a re the people that live on those sidewalks are there more often than our street screws are so great.
24:27Any other questions for Matt?
24:28So really the intent is that not taking the driver's ability to drive, but the opportunity to expand on existing infrastructure to uh give them an option not to drive.
24:40So, like when weighing and so a big item uh as uh known recently, um the road diet on Elton Hills or 19th Street.
24:48Um obviously the very heavily trafficked, even on your slide that you had this fairly dark blue line on that one.
25:00You know, the concept of turning it into two lanes versus four lanes would have to be thoroughly review based on single car traffic or what kind of web and flow we have deciding what would be more appropriate for both of them bike lanes or uh single person traffic webmobile.
25:11So what also has been recently reviewed at ROCO, the Rochester Wall State Council of governance was a safety action plan where Elton Hills Drive was identified as a two to one safety issue that be speaking corridor that need to be addressed.
25:28And safety does not apply to any one mode or individual.
25:34And so what we make what can we do for that corridor to be as safe as possible?
25:37A lane conversion might very well be one of those solutions that's something that's being evaluated right now with public works and planned and designed, not designed perhaps planned.
25:49But we provide the facilities, that's that's part of the intention is we would be a safe, comfortable facility to be, whether that be walking or rolling and mobility or bicycling.
25:59That's effectively leading people to that narrative access too.
26:02So that's where those corridors when they get converted, uh lanes be converted is intended to make it safe for all users.
26:12Also, uh, how much do you guys uh sort of communicate about some of these uh well, you know, any plan had a lot of links, many of which could could break and make the plant faulty.
26:25So have we how much do you guys communicate these things to say the police department, the attorney's office, things like that?
26:31Because when we were talking earlier about the need to expand the reach of accessibility to a uh you know to a transit line, it's not necessarily having it go wiggling in all sorts of directions having a larger radius where people can safely get to it.
26:49Um and obviously it'll be less in the winter given you know we make time, but uh you know it seems to me like that means that the public safety side is integral to this plan.
27:02Enforcement is a part of uh a system design facility design, a system design that would be supportive of people actually wanting to use it.
27:13Uh what also we want to acknowledge is limited resources to be enforcing, and that's where engineering can help.
27:21And when we design uh places that people feel safe and comfortable walking uh or rolling uh or cycling, we heard consistently the active transportation plan that that is separation from motor vehicles.
27:36And that is the biggest safety concern.
27:38So, what can actually provide that safe space to operate to walk roll is to have dedicated facilities that are separated in or protected from other vehicle traffic.
27:49And that can help uh reduce the burden enforcement burden on perhaps an RPD or community service farm.
28:01Well, thank you, Matt.
28:02Appreciate the time.
28:04Um so we don't have a quorum.
28:07Unfortunately, unfortunately.
28:09So there's just a couple of um points I wanted to have for a brief like discussion.
28:14We can't vote on anything.
28:15Um, but one is I I've noticed that um maybe the five o'clock time doesn't work for most of the group.
28:24So when we do have a forum, I think we should consider shifting the time to 5:30 uh instead.
28:30So that's just something to noodle on uh for now.
28:33Another thing is um just as we we move forward, we want to ensure that it's hard to bring things uh to vote on when we don't have a quorum.
28:43So we want to ensure that uh we really promote promote that.
28:47All of that being said, uh Rebu has officially resigned from the CAT committee.
28:53Her job responsibilities have increased, and so she really wants to focus on her professional life right now.
28:59And then also George has uh been removed from the board due to his amount of absences.
29:05So um we are currently down to CAT committee members.
29:10Um so I have asked the mayor's office to consider recruiting uh transit riders or um actually individuals from the biking community.
29:19That would be a good perspective to have um on CATS.
29:22If there's any other suggestions of areas or if you know somebody who might be interested, please send them over um to the mayor's office for that.
29:30Um we really want this to be an active and involved board.
29:33So uh keep all of those things in mind um as we we have those discussions.
29:40And then last on the agenda was the uh transit February report, and we are trending upward in ridership um consistently.
29:48So we've been up around 5,000 riders both the month of January and February.
29:53Um so that's already putting us on track to be ahead of our growth from last year.
29:58Um which was 20,000 over the whole year.
30:01Um, and we've already grown about 10,000 this year.
30:03What do you think is contributed to that?
30:05I think it's a variety of things.
30:07Um we can't really pinpoint it, but we are hopeful that with our spring service changes coming up, we can increase ridership with increased frequency and the removal of looped routes.
30:16Um I know Sondra presented on on all of that a couple of months ago, but um providing more direct access to the north and south ends of the city without having to transfer at Central Park is going to be huge.
30:28Um, and so I we're really looking forward to what that looks like.
30:32Um, I'll give a broad overview of what we anticipate the next year looking like.
30:36So we have our spring service changes hitting at the end of this month on April 25th.
30:40Um our next service change will come a little bit early.
30:43Well, it'll be in October, where we're hoping to transition from Central Park back to Second Street, which will hopefully again increase our ridership numbers.
30:51That's the biggest complaint that we get is that Central Park isn't where people work.
30:55So by transitioning the buses back to the second street stations, we're hoping to increase ridership.
31:01Um, and then next year it gets a little weird.
31:04So we're still working on some additional service changes, but there will be a lot of small ones that happen over the next year.
31:10Um, because we have a couple of um stops that are going to come online during the year, and then we have to start commissioning and testing for link BRT.
31:17And so that'll be a service change in March to start looking at what that integration of the fixed route along second street looks like because that's also when the commissioning and testing of the link buses will start.
31:28So the link buses will be moving up and down second street, and we'll get to see how the fixed route buses kind of work within that space during testing.
31:35And then link will come online in August.
31:38So we're potentially going to have four service changes between October and August to accommodate the upcoming ships in these.
31:47Um October and is like probably one in December and the one in March.
31:52None of them will be, I would say, as notable as the spring one, but they'll have timetable adjustments and the activation of some of the stops um that are along the lake corridor.
32:02Uh so that's what we can anticipate over the next year for that.
32:05And then uh an update on Link is that the Link buses, the remaining 11 buses for LINC went into production this week.
32:17And they're manufacturing memory right now.
32:22Do we know where they're being they're being made in St.
32:27Any news on the the contract change?
32:30Have that been finalized?
32:31We're still um in that proportion.
32:33We anticipate still going to council at either the last meeting in May or the first meeting in June.
32:38So it is a confidential process until we go to council.
32:41So as soon as the agenda for council is released, that information will be public.
32:46It's happening, yeah.
32:47We're um we um have moved on to the next phase of the process, and so um it's coming down uh to final selection.
32:56Um, about the matter of uh members, uh, if we if it is fully the case that we lose design doors being removed, that means that uh we're now in pocket, right?
33:09And we need four in a it's a your quorum doesn't decrease if you have with your vacancies.
33:15So you would you need seven, so your quorum is still four.
33:26A little bit more difficult to know.
33:28So um, but hopefully we but again if you have anybody in mind, we recommend sending them over.
33:34We uh like and again that we can always evaluate this if 5:30 on the second first but second two Thursday of every month doesn't work for the board, then we can evaluate that time slot too.
33:45So if it would make more sense to do a new like a lunchtime meeting or something that um those those are all options and on the table.
33:52So just something to be thoughtful of as we come into the next meeting.
33:55I would probably put it back on the agenda so we make sure that we have a time that works for the group.
34:01So we can't change that now, but we'd have to change it then.
34:04Right, we can't vote on it.
34:05If we have parents, yeah.
34:08So well, um, if there's any other questions, this recording will still be posted with the agenda, and we just didn't have a quorum and we weren't allowed to vote on anything.
34:16So the next B meeting will have to approve the um approved the minutes from the February meeting.
34:32So that's a great question.
34:33We're always evaluating the reintegration of microtransit.
34:36We have decided as a collective within the the bring link online first.
34:41Um, so bring bring in one new mode before we bring in two new modes.
34:45And so um, after Link is on and on board, and we can really trend how people are moving throughout the system.
34:50It will really help us evaluate to implement microtransit.
35:00You might see some some bubblings of it over the next um year to two years um in really targeted areas to to reduce the need of having a bus route there but not a citywide microtransit yet.
35:07But it's it's on the it's on the the thought process.
35:11Probably a wise decision given that big portion of that funding came from the state which is broke.
35:18So but all right I will um and