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Heritage Preservation Commission Meeting - September 23, 2026

Boards and Commissions — Wednesday, September 23, 2026
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0:04

Okay.

0:08

Are we good on that feedback?

1:07

Okay.

1:08

Welcome everybody to the September 22nd Heritage Preservation Commission meeting.

1:12

Before we call to order, we start each meeting with a 15-minute public open comment period.

1:17

This is an opportunity for the public to comment to the commission regarding items that do not have a public hearing on today's agenda.

1:23

Each speaker has up to four minutes.

1:25

The commission will not discuss or respond to any comments made during this time.

1:29

Please be concise and mindful of your time during your remarks so that everyone wishing to speak has the opportunity to do so.

1:35

Will the first speaker please step forward and state your name into the microphone?

1:50

Looks like we have a red light.

1:52

Will you push the button till turn screen?

1:56

Thank you.

1:57

Okay.

2:01

Yeah, I I would like to get updates on the Hal Henderson project almost every month, because I'd like to see where it's at.

2:09

Even if nothing is submitted, it'd be nice to know even that's the status of it.

2:14

I mean, there were 4,000 people who basically were interested in what what's happening to it.

2:21

So I'd like to do sort of, as I said, updates at every see single meeting.

2:27

I spoke to Michael Coop about it and uh about what other HPCs do about that.

2:32

And he said that when they do have similar type projects, they routinely from staff get updates from the administration on on what the status is exactly and where and what's going on with it.

2:46

So hopefully you can add that to your monthly information that you routinely get from Molly or Irene.

2:53

Um another issue is um has to do with what's in the packet.

2:59

While I like um community uh participation and uh and uh and public lecture series, we also have that uh you know, with the Olmstead History Center, and we have it in the library.

3:11

The one thing that HPC is the only organization to do is landmarking and even giving out awards about uh history.

3:20

There's no one else in the city that really does that.

3:23

And so that's to me should be your priority in terms of what you're working on and not public relations or community relations or public lecture series.

3:32

It'd be nice as an addition someday, but I don't think it should take precedence over um the the work on uh on the landmarking, which is woefully behind, and uh also uh even the awards.

3:48

I think those things should be your priority and and not uh you know community relations just because you're the only person that can do it, and we're so far behind.

3:57

Someday we can do the other stuff too.

4:00

Uh Molly doesn't have time to do more than what she's doing now because she's busy all the time, so I don't really think there's any more time for to do other than our main priorities.

4:11

Anyway, thank you very much.

4:13

Thank you, Mr.

4:14

Skullnik.

4:14

Will the next speaker please step forward and state your name?

4:23

Thank you, Mr.

4:24

Stelnik.

4:29

Hello, my name is Barb Hudson.

4:32

I'd like to talk a little bit about Indian Heights Park.

4:34

No surprise.

4:36

So uh we've identified the um inventory process and the um identification of the uh inventory.

4:45

The HPC evaluates a property for the historic inventory, and this is called phase the phase one report.

4:52

Where is that and is this available to the commissioners?

4:56

Is this available to the public in the interest of transparency and accountability?

5:03

I think the public would like to see that as well as the commissioners would like to see what's already been done with that.

5:10

And then as far as the landmark designation process, uh the historic landmark eligibility is determined based on the eight criteria for historic context and the seven aspects of historic integrity.

5:25

Apparently, somewhere in that process, we need a historical designation study written by someone with certain qualifications to provide all the evidence necessary to support the historic evidence and uh the historical evidence and the context of integrity.

5:43

I understand that the request for the grant to fund the historic designation study was denied because it lacked pertinent cultural information or something to that effect.

5:56

And I'd like to know uh community people would like to know what exactly was missing, and how can we, as a community uh of interested residents, uh how can we help ensure that the grant is presented in its entirety for the next submission?

6:14

Um, I know we talked about this in last commission meetings that there are people in the community who can help with this process.

6:22

So if we know exactly what was it, what was missing, we can perhaps look up this information and help contribute to that.

6:30

Also, where do we stand on the local landmark designation versus the cultural landmark designation of Indian Heights Park?

6:39

And what are the estimated times to the best of your ability?

6:43

We'd like that further specified.

6:46

I've had community members come up to me and ask where we stand on this, and there's no place to look that up on the uh public website for the HPC uh website, uh, and I don't know what to tell them.

6:59

So I'd like some information on that.

7:01

Thank you very much.

7:05

Thank you, Ms.

7:05

Hudson.

7:06

Will the next speaker please step forward and state your name?

7:11

Mr.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Historic Preservation█████████████████████████████████████████████69%
Procedural█████████14%
Public Engagement██████9%
Public Comment█2%
Zoning Regulations█2%
Engineering And Infrastructure█1%
Community Engagement█1%
Board and Commission Operations█1%
Indigenous Studies█1%
Summary of Proceedings

Heritage Preservation Commission Meeting - September 23, 2026

Note on Date Discrepancy: The agenda and minutes provided for this meeting list the date as September 22, 2026, but the meeting summary is generated using the date specified in the instruction (September 23, 2026). This discrepancy is noted for accuracy.

The Rochester Heritage Preservation Commission met on September 23, 2026, at 5:00 PM in the Government Center Council Chamber. The meeting included public comments, approval of a Certificate of Appropriateness, discussion of a historic preservation inventory strategy, and updates on public engagement and the Indian Heights Park project. All seven voting members were present; non-voting member Valerie Wassmer was absent.

Consent Calendar

  • Minutes of August 25, 2026: Approved by unanimous consent. Commissioner Koestler questioned the sufficiency of noting "discussions ensued" without details, but staff clarified that recordings serve as the official record. Commissioner Shabel noted that for contested hearings, a written summary of the commission's position should be prepared for city council.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Barry Skolnick: Requested monthly updates on the Hal Henderson project, noting 4,000 people are interested. He urged the commission to prioritize landmarking and awards over public relations, stating the HPC is the only entity that can do this work and is "woefully behind." He suggested community lecture series are secondary.
  • Barb Hudson: Asked about the Phase 1 report for Indian Heights Park and whether it is available to commissioners and the public. She inquired about the status of the grant application for a historic designation study, which was denied due to missing cultural information, and asked how the community can help. She requested timelines for local vs. cultural landmark designation and noted a lack of public information on the HPC website.
  • John Kruesel: Expressed frustration with lack of progress on Indian Heights Park and landmarking, attributing it to city administration not providing the commission with necessary tools. He requested a date-certain action plan for Indian Heights and suggested staff need more resources. He apologized for past remarks about staff member Molly.

Discussion Items

5.A. Certificate of Appropriateness – Stopple Farm House

  • Staff Report (Molly Patterson-Lungren): Presented a COA for rehabilitation of the George Stopple Farmstead at the History Center of Olmsted County. The project includes masonry repointing, window repair/replacement, porch reconstruction, and reversible filling of a cellar stair access. The work is guided by Secretary of Interior Standards and has state funding requiring SHIPO review. Staff recommended approval.
  • Commission Action: Motion by Commissioner Poirier, seconded by Commissioner Koestler. Approved unanimously (7-0).

5.B. Historic Preservation Inventory Strategy – Commissioner Koestler Proposal

  • Staff Comments: Patterson-Lungren noted the proposal does not fully align with the UDC process (e.g., ordering of steps, treatment of districts). She provided a red-line version but had not discussed it with Commissioner Koestler due to scheduling and her hospitalization. She suggested the prioritization portion could be adopted informally, but formal adoption requires resolving conflicts.
  • Commissioner Koestler: Explained the proposal aims to create a prioritization system for the inventory list, define eligibility reports (currently not in UDC), and set a sustainable timeline for landmarking or removing properties within 10 years. She expressed frustration over nine months without a single landmark designation. She requested that the inventory list and Phase 1 reports be restored to the website, citing accessibility requirements.
  • Commission Discussion: Several commissioners supported the intent but wanted clarification on UDC conflicts and definitions. Chair Zastrow proposed a working meeting between staff and Commissioner Koestler to refine the proposal before next meeting. Commissioner Shabel suggested the document be non-binding guidelines. Commissioner Mutchler proposed starting with the historical context committee to test the process. No formal action was taken; the proposal will be revised and brought back.

7.A. Public Engagement & Education

  • Staff Presentation: Patterson-Lungren outlined a three-part program: outward information (e.g., Heritage Preservation Month), sharing stories of local landmarks, and building coalitions with partners like the History Center and library. Director Woodward noted ongoing conversations with city communications to standardize outreach across all boards and commissions.
  • Commission Feedback: Chair Zastrow emphasized capitalizing on media attention to inform the public and recruit commissioners. Commissioner Shabel suggested partnering with the Rochester Downtown Alliance. Staff will bring back more specifics by the end of the year.

7.B. Updates

  • Indian Heights Park: Staff reported that the Park Department is working on interpretive signage but the grant for a Dakota cultural eligibility study was denied. Staff will share the grant feedback with commissioners. The indigenous ethnographic study from 2025 is available. Commissioner Mutchler noted the study is linked in the March 4, 2025 Park Board minutes. No firm timeline for next steps.
  • Inventory List: Updated inventory and landmark lists are now available on the city website. Commissioner Koestler verified the landmark list link works but had difficulty finding the inventory list; staff will provide direct links.
  • HPC Awards Program: Commissioner Koestler, chair of the committee, had no update due to hospitalization.

Key Outcomes

  • Approved: Certificate of Appropriateness for Stopple Farm House (unanimous).
  • Deferred: Adoption of Commissioner Koestler's inventory strategy proposal; staff and commissioner will meet to refine and bring revised version to October 27, 2026 meeting.
  • Continued: Public engagement and education outline to be developed with city communications and partners.
  • Next Meeting: October 27, 2026, in the City Council Chambers.

Meeting Transcript

Okay. Are we good on that feedback? Okay. Welcome everybody to the September 22nd Heritage Preservation Commission meeting. Before we call to order, we start each meeting with a 15-minute public open comment period. This is an opportunity for the public to comment to the commission regarding items that do not have a public hearing on today's agenda. Each speaker has up to four minutes. The commission will not discuss or respond to any comments made during this time. Please be concise and mindful of your time during your remarks so that everyone wishing to speak has the opportunity to do so. Will the first speaker please step forward and state your name into the microphone? Looks like we have a red light. Will you push the button till turn screen? Thank you. Okay. Yeah, I I would like to get updates on the Hal Henderson project almost every month, because I'd like to see where it's at. Even if nothing is submitted, it'd be nice to know even that's the status of it. I mean, there were 4,000 people who basically were interested in what what's happening to it. So I'd like to do sort of, as I said, updates at every see single meeting. I spoke to Michael Coop about it and uh about what other HPCs do about that. And he said that when they do have similar type projects, they routinely from staff get updates from the administration on on what the status is exactly and where and what's going on with it. So hopefully you can add that to your monthly information that you routinely get from Molly or Irene. Um another issue is um has to do with what's in the packet. While I like um community uh participation and uh and uh and public lecture series, we also have that uh you know, with the Olmstead History Center, and we have it in the library. The one thing that HPC is the only organization to do is landmarking and even giving out awards about uh history. There's no one else in the city that really does that. And so that's to me should be your priority in terms of what you're working on and not public relations or community relations or public lecture series. It'd be nice as an addition someday, but I don't think it should take precedence over um the the work on uh on the landmarking, which is woefully behind, and uh also uh even the awards. I think those things should be your priority and and not uh you know community relations just because you're the only person that can do it, and we're so far behind. Someday we can do the other stuff too. Uh Molly doesn't have time to do more than what she's doing now because she's busy all the time, so I don't really think there's any more time for to do other than our main priorities. Anyway, thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Skullnik. Will the next speaker please step forward and state your name? Thank you, Mr. Stelnik. Hello, my name is Barb Hudson. I'd like to talk a little bit about Indian Heights Park. No surprise. So uh we've identified the um inventory process and the um identification of the uh inventory. The HPC evaluates a property for the historic inventory, and this is called phase the phase one report. Where is that and is this available to the commissioners? Is this available to the public in the interest of transparency and accountability? I think the public would like to see that as well as the commissioners would like to see what's already been done with that. And then as far as the landmark designation process, uh the historic landmark eligibility is determined based on the eight criteria for historic context and the seven aspects of historic integrity. Apparently, somewhere in that process, we need a historical designation study written by someone with certain qualifications to provide all the evidence necessary to support the historic evidence and uh the historical evidence and the context of integrity. I understand that the request for the grant to fund the historic designation study was denied because it lacked pertinent cultural information or something to that effect. And I'd like to know uh community people would like to know what exactly was missing, and how can we, as a community uh of interested residents, uh how can we help ensure that the grant is presented in its entirety for the next submission? Um, I know we talked about this in last commission meetings that there are people in the community who can help with this process. So if we know exactly what was it, what was missing, we can perhaps look up this information and help contribute to that.

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