2:13I'd like to call to order the planning and development committee meeting for March twenty third, twenty twenty-six.
2:21Tonight's invocation will be given by Pastor Cameron Henderson of City First Church.
2:26If I can have you all please stand, I'm immediately followed by tonight's comment excuse me.
5:00And whereas social workers positively impact the lives of millions of Americans daily in hospital, school, child welfare agencies, community centers, and with federal, state, and local governments nationwide.
5:09And whereas for more than a century, the social work profession has worked to improve society by playing a role in establishing a minimum wage, promoting behavioral health, social security, Medicare, and working to ensure equal rights for all, no matter their race, sexual identity, gender, gender expression, culture, or religion.
5:27And whereas social workers are on the front lines helping solve pressing social problems, including increased demand for mental health services, and opioid addiction crisis, economic inequality, they confront oppression and racism, advocate for human rights and advancing fair policies for all persons by obliterating barriers that prevent individuals and families from thriving.
5:52And whereas in 2026, social work month theme is social workers, uplift, defend, and transform.
6:00It shines a light on the resolute spirit of social workers who transform lives while bringing hope, healing, and justice to the communities they serve, especially in times of profound change and challenges.
6:12Now, therefore, I, Thomas P.
6:13McTamer, as a mayor of the city of Rockford do hereby proclaim the month of March 2026 to be social work month.
6:21Just want to say on behalf of Rockford to all of you and all the social workers out there, thank you so much for your tireless advocacy, special uh especially for those who are marginalized.
6:31So thank you so much.
6:32Mary, would you like to share a few words?
6:36Thank you, City Council, thank you, Mayor McNamara, for this uh proclamation.
6:40I think it's so important to shine a light on the social work profession, especially nowadays when we are um battling even it being considered a profession.
6:48Um we are in you know the schools, we're in the hospitals, we're in government, we're in um the veterans administration.
6:56Um we're in a variety of different areas um doing this work, helping um advocate for um rights for um the families and youth and with with whom we work.
7:07Um and so I really appreciate everybody here tonight listening to the proclamation and wanted to give a shout out to my fellow social workers here with me tonight.
7:15Um the work you do is so important.
7:17Thank you for being here.
7:23Thank you for the seat.
7:31We'll go ahead and move into our public speakers.
7:34Um, just as a reminder, all public speakers will have three minutes to make their comments.
7:40We do have two microphones located at the back of the horseshoe.
7:43Uh, once your three minutes are up, you will hear an alarm sound, and we just ask that you bring your comments to a close at that time.
7:49That being said, our first speaker tonight is Andrew Petroselli.
8:03Good evening, my city.
8:05Tonight I'm here to talk about an independent candidate who is truly of the people, by the people, and for the people, as he would be Winnebago's first county clerk of Hispanic Heritage.
8:17I, Andrew Petroselli, am that candidate.
8:20A technician who believes political change is not only possible, but also a power of the people.
8:26Now, I love this city because I see no shortage of room for voices of progress.
8:33I believe in a revitalized Rockford, and I would be honored to be at that moment's forefront.
8:39This includes representing the younger generations in public office.
8:47Thank you for your time.
8:55Our next public speaker is Matthew Wilder.
9:01What up, Matthew Wilder, Mr.
9:03Regular Guy, here to talk about vital resources that are theoretically going to be compromised by billionaire initiatives, and that we should like to hold them accountable and put a moratorium in place until we have more information, done more ecological studies, more environmental studies, and actually have talked to the community of how they feel about it and how it will affect multiple things from the environment to the community and to the people that directly live around it and not to be just like sequestered to nothing as if they don't exist, and there's like at least 30 plus farms and farmats that surround that will be directly their livelihood will be directly affected on a daily basis for the rest of time.
9:45That being said, um, we really need to just pump the brakes because I'm not here on a smear campaign against artificial intelligence specifically, that's a different conversation.
10:00It's that there's not much transparency, there's not much information, and this could affect the water table, which could affect the bees, the prairie, it can affect people's well water, it could it's just for a negligible amount of jobs that aren't necessarily going to be long-lasting, and I feel like there's a lot of propaganda out there on both sides, and we just need to clarify what is true and what isn't, because that's very important.
10:28And if nothing else, how could we gamble something like water for some kind of financial gain in any capacity ever?
10:37Because, like they talk about people of our generation not having kids anymore.
10:41Why would they want to bring kids into a world where our public leaders and the billionaires that say they're there for our benefit?
10:48Well, not the billionaires, but the public leaders, they actually care about the future of our children, of our ecosystem, of our prairies, of our bees, of our water table, and why would you convert farmland into an 1,100-acre data center that would cost 12 billion dollars and really offer nothing to the city of Rockford?
11:11Sure, it was an industrust industrial town, but that ship has sailed.
11:16Do better and get more clever and find better things.
11:19Converting jet fuel for the airport would be sort of an all right idea if it didn't have detrimental effects on the environment.
11:25That's what they bade and switched.
11:27They were like, we're gonna do this, and now we're gonna do that.
11:29There's not enough information.
11:30I don't even believe it's zoned yet.
11:32And is it really I2?
11:35Sounds more like I-3.
11:36It's not an it's not light duty.
11:38At one point, data centers might have been.
11:41They don't seem to be anymore.
11:42And if they spent more money, they can make them better and more environmentally sound, and they could choose better places to put them.
11:49So, really, just slow down.
11:53Think about the community and the citizens of Rockford and beyond, and really it should be an international movement and not just a here and now thing.
12:03So, at the end of the day, are we really willing to gamble?
12:19Our next public speaker tonight is Prophet Yusuf.
12:26Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
12:29In the book of Psalms, 118 chapters, the eighth verse, it says it's best to put confidence in God than to put trust in man, man affair every time.
12:39What I want to speak about tonight, the power to reduce gun violence we have in Rocco by using my 14-point system that I invented.
12:52One, give people jobs to pay good wages and benefits, two, have the bus run 24 hours a day, seven days a week, so people can get to jobs.
13:01Three, have free daycare service so women can get to jobs or go to school, four, have affordable education, five, have affordable homes and mineral pops.
13:10Six, give mental treatment by open up all the mental facilities in Rockwood.
13:15Seven, open up drug and alcohol treatment facilities.
13:18Eight, give felonies a second chance, like God gave us with his grace and mercy by giving them a job and a place to stay.
13:27Now increase the quantity and availability of parent workshop throughout.
13:32This will empower families with support to help them steer their children toward leading socially and economically productive lives, strictly, enforce curfew laws by having children who are under 18 who's not going to work or school to be in the house at 6 p.m.
13:50All people who live in Rockwood must have an ID in their pocket.
13:53Most fatal shooting take place after midnight.
13:57Many young lives could have been saved if the victim had simply been inside as required by law.
14:03Expand drug court, other therapy court models and mental health service.
14:08These programs ensure that participants with criminal cases are released back into society with support service that reduce the likelihood of them committing a violent crime.
14:19Twelve, charge individuals pulling the trigger and co-conspirators with domestic terrorism.
14:25It is clear that the small minority of individuals responsible for neighborhood bothers do not fear the law.
14:32Increase the use of the shared state police and forest police and high primary to help rock the police.
14:4014, increase penalties for people illegally and possession of firearms and expand gunbat program.
14:48This would help reduce the violence and crime in rock.
14:51Also, they want to tell all the woman Ann Thompson and my good friend who worked for the human service department and Mr.
14:59Nate, who works in the bank.
15:00And I'm glad you're here tonight, Mayor Mac and Mayor.
15:03I've been wanting to tell you this for a long time too.
15:05I don't I don't like you.
15:07And you can't do nothing about it.
15:10And happy birthday, my good friends, and I wish you many more, and God bless you and your family.
15:16Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday to my good friends.
15:22Happy birthday to you.
15:34Our next public speaker is Alexander Thingfold.
15:45I know that uh amongst the audience, this isn't going to make me very popular.
15:50Uh, I'm an omus business student at NIU, which is operations management and information services.
15:58I'm the one who will be pulling the data from data centers like this.
16:04Last fall, all three major data centers, and I don't mean individual centers, but all Amazon hosted websites went down.
16:18All Oracle sites went down.
16:21All Microsoft sites went down in the course of ten days.
16:27If Amazon is offline for one day, it costs the economy approximately one billion dollars.
16:36Data centers are important because without data centers, we don't have business.
16:43We have gone to the point where everything is subscription.
16:47You pay a subscription to have your server on an Amazon server.
16:55Now the problem with this is that data centers have not been built with technology that have that has been around for decades.
17:06They need to be using liquid cooling.
17:09This is not what is being done now.
17:14Now they are spraying the rooms full of water and using large amounts of air conditioning to cool the CPUs.
17:22If the CPUs are submerged in liquid, which is a combination of water and another substance, it goes through eventually hits a radiator, which cools the water.
17:36Now, that can be used to turn a turbine to produce additional energy.
17:44This would actually make a data center not be a drain on the system.
17:51And if a data center is going to take up that much farm space that we won't be able to get back.
18:01Bloomberg and Forbes are saying that the AI bubble will burst in 2028.
18:10What happens if we put all this money into it?
18:14I am pro-data center if they're done correctly.
18:18The problem is they don't have a good reason to do it ethically and ecologically soundly unless we require them to do so.
18:33They need to use liquid cooling, they need to pay for any upgrades to the electrical grid.
18:40They need to not leave all of the cost on the taxpayers.
18:46And they need to actually be socially minded, not just about ecological things, but how it will affect the community.
18:59So if you have any questions, please feel free to reach out.
19:03Alex Thingvold at ProtonMail.com.
19:07I can give you a great deal of information as well as backing up that data with actual facts.
19:18If they go down, it destroys the economy.
19:22The problem is we need them better.
19:28Thank you for having me and have a wonderful night.
19:38Our next public speaker is Carson Roberts.
19:45Tonight and in recent weeks, we've heard mention of the environmental impact of data centers, the financial impact they have on people in the area, and the fact they create construction jobs that are ethereal in nature and highly specialized maintenance maintenance jobs, the responsibilities of which are often fulfilled by out-of-town specialists.
20:04But I want to highlight something else, which is the capacity for AI to create nude images of people from originals in which the subject is clothed.
20:11More and more, this technology has been used to create child sexual abuse material using images of real children.
20:18Reports have stated that up to thousands of images per child have been generated.
20:22My partner, Celeste Rube, who spoke here last week against this data center.
20:27She worked for over two years as a date as a before and after school caregiver at a Montessori school until she recently found employment at the new Rockford Public Library branch downtown, setting up programs for kids.
20:39I do volunteer tutoring every Tuesday with a kid from Chicago, and I help out a family friends kid with math every Wednesday.
20:46When I was a kid, the worst I had to worry about was the popular kids making fun of me online, and most of the people in this room didn't even have to worry about that.
20:53But kids today have to worry about pissing off the wrong person and getting AI generated child porn of them passed around to the school.
21:01What's worse is that has already happened.
21:03And I could go into instances of this happening nationwide, but I don't have to, because it's happening here too.
21:09I spoke about this issue at the event held by Alder Person Meeks at the library on March 10th.
21:14And there, one of the other organizers let me know that her kid was friends with someone who experienced this harassment at their school.
21:22To each other person here, if you vote to allow this data center to be built, what you're telling your constituents is that child porn is not a deal breaker for you.
21:30If you vote yes, you prioritize a small bump to our economy over to keeping our children safe.
22:06Item one is an approval of the 2040 future land use map.
22:11Do you have a motion to approve?
22:16We have a motion, we have a second, and we do have a presentation here tonight, so I'll turn it over to Mr.
22:23Uh my name is Colin Bell.
22:25I'm the city's planning and design coordinator, and I'll be presenting this evening.
22:29I wanted to first remind uh committee that we were here about a month ago as we started the 30-day public comment period for this plan.
22:37Um as such, uh the 30-day public comment period is ended, and we'll be having this evening's discussion.
22:47So again, we're just gonna be going over the uh 2040 future land use map, which will be the first amendment to the city's 2040 comprehensive plan.
22:59The original uh land use map was uh last updated in 2005 with a significant amendment in 2011.
23:06Um as we remember in 2023 we adopted the 2040 comprehensive plan, and this would uh be the um the the first amendment to the comprehensive plan.
23:20So this map is a long-range policy guide.
23:24It's the city's vision for how land may evolve over time, a tool to inform zoning review, infrastructure investment, and development proposals.
23:32The first amendment to a 2040 comprehensive plan is mentioned, and a framework for community discussion, coordinated decision making.
23:39The map is not a zoning change.
23:41It does not authorize any development or alter existing land use entitlements.
23:46It is not a reduction of legally established property rights uh or a mandate requiring property owners to redevelop or make changes to their properties.
23:58These are the uh new land use designations for the future land use map.
24:03And at this time we're going to uh take a quick look at the previous map that we um currently have that we'll be looking at that we're updating here.
24:18So the way the map is currently uh displayed on our website and able to be viewed, it's actually 43 separate maps, and you have to kind of guess which one you're looking for.
24:27Um so I usually start with map one, scroll down, and you can use this key to sort of get an idea of where you want to go in the city.
24:35Um not uh very productive, um, as well as not showing that much detailed um information.
24:42Um this is a downtown area.
24:44Um, it's a static map.
24:45You can zoom in, but you're not gonna see any more information.
24:48There's no aerial photos.
24:49Uh as such, it's a bit cumbersome.
24:55This is the new mapping application.
25:00We can print from this, you can create maps from this as you wish, but the the beauty of this is that you're able to zoom in very, very close to see block level data.
25:07And the um information here is based off of the current land use, which was also updated.
25:13And this information here is much more detailed, but at the same time, it has much less categories, reducing the confusion.
25:20The previous map also combined multiple categories together, further making more confusing.
25:26There were um different hash marks, multiple different colors, and again, it was just very hard and cumbersome to navigate.
25:34There will be more functionality added.
25:36We'll be adding more layers to this, such as possibly bike trails, um, things of that nature.
25:41Um we do have a legend that you can view here, and you're able to turn in the future we'll be able to turn those categories on and off as well.
25:59So these are some of the key planning themes.
26:01Guided growth, it directs development toward existing corridors and infill areas, reduces urban sprawl and over-extension of the public services, supports orderly and efficient use of our infrastructure.
26:13For housing diversity, we're looking to support single family townhomes, multifamily, and mixed use development.
26:18Uh, this is based off of the 2024 housing needs analysis.
26:22And also, we're looking to um to focus on workforce and a table housing outcomes.
26:28For economic development, it helps to reinforce commercial and industrial mixed uses.
26:33Uh new technology industry designation for tech and RD growth.
26:37It supports job attraction and workforce housing links, and also there's also infrastructure and sustainability, such as aligning land use and transportation, uh protecting the floodplains, greenways, and natural resources, and also to help coordinate with capital planning and our planned growth patterns.
26:56Of notice, um, some of the um notable changes from the last map are that it did not include any water resources.
27:02So we spent a lot of time uh mapping those out, digitizing those, and including any waterway or water channel that was in a hundred-year floodplain, um, and that was a substantial task.
27:13Um, as you can see over here, Levings Lake has a creek that runs out, uh, which is the South Fork of the Kent Creek.
27:18There's a couple privately owned ponds, a couple more over here, and that drainage uh heads north to a couple more ponds.
27:24This is all new information that was not um in GIS or included on the last map.
27:30Some other noticeable changes based on some of the public comments that we got were that there would be nice if there were some more mixed-use classifications throughout the region, um, above and beyond what we already had.
27:40So we've taken the Broadway corridor and expanded a little bit in this area to the south and north, included an area over here.
27:47Um we included Avon, which uh this is where um there's a proposed project over here for mixed use.
27:53We've got the former Essex site, uh, this is above OSF Medical, and there's a few more here, including very importantly Coleman Yards.
28:00Uh, this is just a few of them.
28:01I think that we've added about 25 or 30 additional areas that we've already um identified as possible housing locations, but we think that a mixed-use development would uh be preferred there.
28:15Additionally, residential development was examined in detail due to the number of studies that we've had recently done, and the fact that we know that we're um we lack housing right now in on all areas.
28:27Um so these uh definitions for housing, the low, medium, and high were based specifically on our zoning designations of R1, R2, and R3/slash R4 to align with that directly.
28:37The last map um was pretty much just done by looking at an area and kind of using your best judgment to decide that.
28:45Uh, as such, large parts of the city um have no variation in the housing density, and when in reality there is definitely there is definitely differences in those housing densities in those neighborhoods.
28:55So you'll see a lot more detail in the housing layer as well.
29:01And again, some of the notable changes that I didn't want to outline that I wanted to briefly mention were against again the methodology and data improvements.
29:09Um the technology is vastly improved since 2005 and just aerial photography, let alone, but geographical information systems has much higher resolution and data available to us to do a better job.
29:19Um again, we expanded the geographical scope.
29:22It covers all the unincorporated islands this time as well, but also all the way out to um our adjacent uh municipal boundaries, which is called our ultimate planning boundary with our neighboring uh communities.
29:33Uh the housing integration was was key again.
29:36This is based off of the housing needs analysis and market study that we had done recently and the fact that there were projecting uh demand for several thousand additional units and or rehabbed units that exist currently.
29:48Um again, these densities were um were a lot of time was put into the density analysis to determine um where we would want these houses to be placed in the future through the infill development process.
30:00Again, it aligns with a comprehensive plan, which is very important as well.
30:04And this time we are going to hold ourselves accountable for the ongoing maintenance.
30:08We'll be looking at this every year, at least every year, to make sure that it is it is it runs with true to the planning that we see for the future.
30:19So that's a very important process.
30:23The last time I said I wasn't updated since 2011.
30:27So the public engagement process, which was concluded uh a few weeks ago.
30:32Um we uh made the interactive map available to the public.
30:35We put a 30-day public comment period out there.
30:37We did receive quite a few comments and um from both residents uh and businesses alike.
30:43Um most of those um were submitted via email, but we did have quite a few phone calls as well.
30:48Uh so the value of that public input ensures that the map reflects our local priorities, it highlights concerns, and it also strengthens transparent transparency and community trust.
30:59So again, uh we responded to every comment.
31:01Um, sometimes multiple times we had um some discussions with individuals and actually sat down with some of the um individuals who submitted comments and made sure that um you know their concerns were addressed.
31:11Um based on those conversations, no major changes were made.
31:15Um a couple of minor uh modifications were made to the symbology and the color of them, so they were easier to distinguish.
31:21That was probably one of the bigger um changes that you'll see.
31:28So again, these are the next steps.
31:30Um we're you know, the committee review right now, we're looking for a committee recommendation, and the next process after recommendation would go to City Council, and then of course, ongoing updates that were just mentioned.
31:45And at this time we'll take questions and uh comments.
31:53I believe you answered this already, but I just want to be perfectly clear for myself and for everybody who's come this evening.
32:01This is not a vote for a data center.
32:04This is merely changing our 2040 land plan, correct?
32:17First of all, um Colin Bell, thank you for a tremendous job.
32:26And I know the whole department contributed to it, but what a tremendous job you have done for quite a quite some time compiling this, updating this, getting this information together.
32:38You have put in so much blood, sweat and chairs into this project, and I know there's more to come, but thank you for all of your efforts.
32:46It's very much appreciated because what you were showing prior, who could comprehend how to get to what we need to get to, right?
32:55Um I want to ask a question.
32:59Um, thank you for taking the time to meet with me prior to kind of go over some things, but um do we currently in this city have a need for um more industrial land?
33:15And I can pose it to either one of you.
33:18I think I could answer that.
33:20Um I think the answer that we've determined is yes.
33:24Uh there was many areas along bypass 20 and I-90 that were targeted for residential development, and I don't think anybody really wants to live next to these highways now that are carrying 70,000 cars a day with all the noise and traffic and everything.
33:39So uh easy access to those near the interchanges, et cetera, where we're targeting those areas now for industrial growth.
33:48So we have included a lot more, uh, especially on the around the airport on the south side uh near highway two, uh some of those areas.
33:57So like there's a large area of industrial that came in based on some of these changes just a few years ago, um, right off of Highway 2 and bypass 20 on the South West Crown Southwest quadrant.
34:11Um so yeah, we feel like it this has addressed some of those needs.
34:15So I'm gonna stick to kind of my ward and my area.
34:21Um is it because we're kind of located on the um I don't know what you just called it, but the entryways into the city, exits out of the city.
34:36Is that why the area where the former Singer location was kind of targeted for an industrial planning?
34:47So that area we looked at hard and based on the fact that North Rock Industrial is right across the street and has easy access to highway two, also access um to uh Riverside over to I-90, taking the Springfield uh, you know, extension around or Riverside around Springfield, qu easy access back over to um business 20 and bypass 20.
35:09Um we felt that that the topography, the existing uh infrastructure, and uh the fact that um you know we've seen quite a bit of that area fill up with industrial, it made it more ideal for an industrial development that helped bring jobs um to an area that we think you know could use some more jobs as a matter of fact, which could help with our commercial development as well as well as residential.
35:32Could it bring storage as well?
35:35We I don't think we want to see any storage there.
35:39Uh but there's always the potential that anybody could take industrial property and put storage into it, yes.
35:45So I'm just gonna be on the record again stating that in that particular area where the former Essex location is, and this is a preference I feel that is happening right now.
35:57It's a preference from our city to make that change to say that we would like to see that as industrial.
36:03And that applies across the board for a lot of what's going on with the land use changes.
36:09Some of them are needed, some of them are what we have done the research to exclaim that this is how it should be.
36:19I think there could be people, planners that feel that a residential future use could be useful in that area just as much as the industrial, considering the need for housing that was stated.
36:40Um there's I don't know how many areas there are, and I think we won't know those answers until we get that infill map that we've talked about of you know how many specific areas are going to be available specifically in the 12th ward.
36:58But for me, what I know and what I have heard for many, many, many years is rooftops bring retail.
37:11And I think it's very important that we consider housing as in as many places, and I know we've done it, we've made changes, future land use changes with this with this plan, and I think that that's great.
37:26I would like to see more of that coming into the 12th ward.
37:31Um I believe that that's what a lot of people would agree with, especially in the neighboring, it's right by school, it's right by housing.
37:40I mean, we're we're just getting to a point where yes, we do have a location that has been zoned industrial for for uh you know a long time.
37:49I just don't want to see that direction grow in that particular area.
37:54Um but this just a preference that that I have, and I feel like there would be several residents that would agree with my uh analysis of that area.
38:05So it just kind of shows me that what we're talking about here is in some forms, you know, preference of of how people feel we should be moving things forward.
38:18Um so I just wanted to make that clear, and then the only other question that I have.
38:23I know we're not here to talk about a data center or anything like that, but I I do have to ask, is there a way we can pull up where the data center is expected to be on this map?
38:35That guy gets out of the way in that area there, zoned right now completely as I-2.
38:58That whole area is designated for industrial, it's all zoned I-2 at this time, all the parts that are in the city, both on the Winnebago County side and the Ogle County side.
39:06So there's two different sides, one's Oga County, one's Winnebago.
39:11And is there no portion of agricultural in that specific area?
39:23For the for the future?
39:26For no for now, most of that area is agricultural.
39:30So right now, and I know.
39:32But the use is agricultural.
39:34But the zoning is industrial.
39:36I just want to understand that one more time.
39:39This this land was brought in by uh the Wolf and Wolfenburger family.
39:45Cagnoni can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that's who it was initially.
39:49And they brought it all into the city back in, I think it was 2008 or 9, and then it became contiguous in 2011, so that annexation then came uh was enacted.
40:00But they had asked for industrial zoning and they were granted that zoning.
40:03So right now its current use is industrial.
40:07So not the question.
40:10It's eligible for industrial uses.
40:15But it's agricultural right now.
40:18It's no different than a plot of land that out on East State Street, or we're just off of East State Street where people were zoned commercial and they continue to farm them for many years, even though they were zoned for commercial development.
40:29So it's very similar situation.
40:33And so yeah, I I appreciate you kind of explaining that so I get a better understanding.
40:38I think there is, you know, a conversation on my end too of how much land that is deemed agricultural right now is switching over to industrial.
40:51Is there a is there a way that I can kind of see that like side by side or something like that where it would show me the land that was formerly agricultural, that's the future land use is looking to change to industrial.
41:14Or you can take a look at the current GIS map without the without the layers on it, and then compare that to the this future land use map, and you can be you'll be able to see that.
41:25You can kind of see the transparency.
41:26I think you can reduce that transparency a little bit.
41:29You can see what areas are currently just agriculture.
41:32And that would include all zoning districts, because there's going to be areas on this map that are not just being changed to industrial.
41:38Some of them have been targeted for residential for years, commercial for years, 40, 50 years on these old land use plans that we've had, and they're still not developed, but it's just a continuation of the planning process in which we designate those areas for that type of growth in the future.
41:54And are you finding those residential areas staying the same as residential, or do are you seeing us in this map change things up in those areas as well?
42:03I think for the most part in the low density residential areas, uh we're seeing them stay the same.
42:08It's more the medium density, high density stuff that was next to the highways that we you know we wanted to change to industrial.
42:18If I if I may, one quick thing on the Essex site.
42:21We we we are we are designating that as mixed use.
42:24So we do agree with your assessment that's now the Essex, because you mentioned Essex.
42:31Oh, you meant Singer?
42:32I just wanted to make sure.
42:33Definitely met Singer.
42:40Thank you for allowing me to speak on your committee.
42:42I do see under the layers, uh, first off, thank you for your work as well, Colin.
42:46I enjoy working with you on this kind of stuff.
42:49The Rockford Ward, so if I want to speak to a potential out-of-town developer about developing specifically in Ward 5, they are able to differentiate by with this.
43:04Yeah, so they're there.
43:05Sorry, here's here are the words right here, yes.
43:11Um like I said, we'd be adding more functionality in the future.
43:14You'll be able to turn them on and off.
43:15So we wanted to look at just one ward.
43:21So that but that's a future function, or you're saying that works that works now?
43:25So you can you can highlight them now, but we want to be able to turn them on and off independently.
43:30Um we've had that request by a few individuals that some of the layers would be nice if they were able to be manipulated further.
43:40Um I do have a question.
43:42Um, how often is this map updated?
43:46So previously it hadn't been updated since 2011.
43:48But to answer your question, we want to look at it at least every year.
43:52Um for example, um, it could be less than a year if there was a special project or a major project that we knew was moving forward.
44:00Um, we could make that change then at that point.
44:02But as a reminder, it has to go through council.
44:05But we can't just make the change ourselves.
44:07They would have to go through the same process again for that specific site change.
44:11So we would like to do it at least every year.
44:13Um if there aren't any changes necessary, then we could, you know, go a little bit further, but we we expect there to be.
44:19I asked um, because I was wondering if it was like done real time as council is approving things and you're getting it updated that way residents like as they're asking, you know, they have that transparency right there to where they're able to see that.
44:32So for the future land use, there will be a little bit of a lag.
44:35Um, but we do have that we're we're not even talking about it, of course.
44:38We don't need to be, but there the current land use was developed prior to this in order to get here.
44:42So the current land use, yes, that will be updated internally by staff as needed.
44:47That yeah, and it's updated automatically when I when I make my changes.
44:51Are there any other questions?
45:00I got a couple questions for you.
45:02The first one that I have is you mentioned some changes that the public um brought recommendations to you guys.
45:09Um and you said there wasn't major ones.
45:13What can you give me an example of some of the discussion that the public brought forward that sure?
45:19Yeah, so one of the one of the main ones was the categories.
45:21People were having trouble looking at and discerning between the industrial designation and the transportation designations, which were both grays.
45:28Um they were just different grayscales.
45:31Uh so we added a hatch mark to the industrial to make it stick out a little bit more.
45:35Um also the same with the um with the residential.
45:38It was a light yellow, a medium yellow, and a bright yellow that just wasn't working, there wasn't enough variation.
45:43Um so we actually changed one of the colors completely and then put a hatch mark on the high density residential because that was the one that you know we want the pop the most.
45:51And um we did um speak with Cottonwood Airport pretty extensively, and they just wanted to make sure that our land use designations, our future land use designations aligned with you know their future goals of staying as an airport and wanting to be an airport, and they were just a little bit concerned with some of the stuff they saw on the map.
46:08We met with them multiple a couple times, we invited them in, had that discussion, and and um were very amicable, and we uh we came to a conclusion.
46:16And um as such, the airport is industrial, which that's what it's zoned as, and that's what they wanted.
46:21Um same with the air with the with the Rockford International Airport that also is zoned industrial, so the future land use for that would be industrial.
46:28Um I think that those were really all the comments.
46:31We had the majority of them were for Cottonwood.
46:33Um, and like I said, we had some really good meetings with them.
46:38Um my next question that I have is on page 1113 of this packet you provided us.
46:45Um I know that there's a lot of talk that you know there is going to be a need, there is a need of multi-units and units and housing in our city and so forth.
46:57I can't remember the exact number um that has been put out there.
47:01Um so my question is uh based on the maps that you guys created, um, is there new updates on the high density, medium density uh locations where some of this uh potential opens up for this high density and medium density for these uh additional units or housing would be for for sure.
47:22Um I can think of a couple locations.
47:24Um there's a site up on Riverside right now that's being actively marketed, and um that in the previous map I believe was um open space um or or priority acquisition, sorry, which is the type of open space.
47:35Um that's uh you know not really aligned with what we see in the in the um peripheral of that little area there, so we made that modification to show that as medium density residential.
47:46Um there are a couple other locations throughout the city too.
47:49Um but to your point you said that you know it does it does follow our zoning classifications and we wanted to, as you know, most land use maps, they want to align current, you know, similar uses near each other.
47:59Um so we we followed those those guidelines.
48:02So this may be for Scott uh question.
48:05So say for example, uh it's not as zoned as high density or medium density uh from that perspective.
48:14Um, if a developer came forward and said, hey, I'd like to propose in these certain lots, you know, a multi-unit uh complex.
48:24I'm just throwing things out there.
48:2620 unit, 30 unit, um, you know, if it's not in that high density or medium density, how can someone still go through the process or can I can they not go through the process on on getting that developed?
48:41Oh anyone can go through the process, Alderman Salgado.
48:43It's um if you if you if you want to attempt a zoning change, uh you know, we'll work with you, we'll you know, help you fill out the applications and everything.
48:51Um the staff may not recommend approval of it.
48:55Um and the zoning board, then that's a whole nother story.
48:58Uh depending on you know, public input and things like that at these zoning board meetings.
49:03So it makes a big difference to a lot of the members.
49:04They listen to the pros and cons.
49:06So you know, anybody would have the right to read.
49:08If we if we see something we say, hey, it should be low density residential, and someone comes to us and says, I want to rezone this to R3, which it would allow up to 15 units per acre, then you know, we're gonna take a look at the overall uh development of the site and say, does this make sense?
49:23What are the compatible uses in the area?
49:25How does it blend in with the surroundings, things of that nature?
49:28So but you're all you're more than welcome to reapply or apply for any type of zoning change.
49:33Yeah, I just wanted to, you know, thank you for that commentary.
49:36Just want to make sure that there is a process through the zoning that you know anything could be possible where you know, a it it uh conflicts with our 2040 plan, but the doesn't necessarily mean that it's an automatic denial uh from that perspective.
50:00So I just want the public to understand that that there is a process from that perspective, and uh most of these will go through with the zoning committee and there'll be minutes and testimony and so forth, and anyone can object or approve or say I'm for it against it uh from that perspective.
50:12Um I also do want to uh just you know uh there's comments out there, you know, um as of right now it there's a comment about grandfathering, correct?
50:24Um the current use of that property does not you know say it automatically changes uh to this new uh land use, correct?
50:34I just want to make sure that's correct.
50:36And as Colin pointed out, like the very first thing he said is that this is not a zoning change.
50:41This is just a future designation that for for the most part in areas that's uh that are already developed, it's gonna align with what's there.
50:50It's the areas where there is no development that it may not align.
50:54At that time, then if there was to be a change, say we were asking for we wanted to see something zoned residentially, but it gets owned commercially instead.
51:03Well, then we'd have to go back in and Colin would have to make the change on the future map so it aligns with the current zoning as well.
51:11Yeah, and I just want to, you know, you guys made property rights, which I think that's fundamental as part of it.
51:17I just want people to understand that that in no shape or form completely changes their their current use of that property.
51:25So just wanted to make those that commentary from that perspective.
51:29Um the other one, the agricultural, obviously, the elephant in a room here, data center, um potentially coming uh forward.
51:37Uh so it has been designated as I2.
51:40Thank you for answering that question.
51:42Uh, but it's currently being used as agricultural, correct?
51:46Then that's that's all the questions that I have.
51:50Are there any other questions or comments?
51:54Clerk, will you please call the room?
52:03Item two is an approval of the proposed funding agreement with Phantom Regiment Inc.
52:08an Illinois nonprofit, excuse me, not for profit corporation located at 5608 International Drive, and not to exceed the amount of a hundred thousand dollars over two years, sixty thousand dollars in twenty twenty-six and forty thousand in twenty twenty-seven.
52:23The funding source is casino foundation funds.
52:26Do I have a motion to approve?
52:29Are there any questions or comments?
52:36Um just just real quick.
52:38Um just I don't know if you can answer Mr.
52:42Um I saw there was multiple programming and so forth.
52:46Um, what exactly uh does the Phantom Regiment um is it you know they where do they get the kids?
52:56Is it kind of like say, for example, in soccer, right?
52:59We have clubs club soccer out there and we compete, or we just perform uh compete against each other, uh, kind of like the Raptors or some other rock run or whatever other what is exactly does the the Phantom Regiment, you know, entail and you know, from that perspective.
53:20So uh thank you, Alderman, and that's an excellent question.
53:24And they do all the above uh related to the examples that you provide.
53:29They do compete on a national uh level, but they also have a number of programs such as the King Penn's Drumlines program, uh, which is for drumming for for students with disabilities age 15 plus.
53:42Um they also do Rockford Rhythm, which is another youth program, uh, percussion and color guard assemble throughout the Rockford community.
53:50So, you know, they've created these additional programs really to create a pipeline um for the more competitive um events and activities that they're located in.
54:02Father Wang and Meeks?
54:04Um thank you, Todd, for the response.
54:06I know that Rockford Rhythm has been active for some time in the community.
54:13I know it it's gone through some changes.
54:15I I believe it collaborated with another group called YEVO, Youths Against Violence Organization.
54:24Um the other organization um or the other group with the disabilities.
54:35Um has that started?
54:37I'm uncertain if that I believe it has started, but I can't say for certain that it has.
54:42Okay, but there's more than likely a possibility that if it has started, it's very fresh.
54:48It just kind of came online.
54:52That is my understanding.
54:54Um so I just want to make this comment.
55:00So I just want to make this comment.
55:04I'm just kind of really trying to understand how the process is.
55:12And I talked about this online on social media, just the process of how nonprofits are coming forward, who is not necessarily allowed because I feel like everyone has the ability to come to City Hall, make a request, and potentially get funding if it's a you know a good enough request.
55:37But I am curious to know is there you know kind of a more formal process with regards to nonprofits and how they go about requesting funding for the city.
55:53So that is an excellent question, Alderwoman.
55:55And they you know, those opportunities come about in a number of different ways.
56:00Um whether that's a program that City Council has approved through the council process in which there's an application process, or we have a number of uh events and activities that not for profits might come forward on that are less than $25,000, and we may provide funding to support um that activity.
56:22And then there's larger requests that that come in.
56:26Um, you know, over the last several years, many of those have been aligned with our ARPA funding.
56:31This particular request um was initiated on the the city's end uh from an administration level as well as um other organizations within the community.
56:41We had reached out to Phantom Regiment as an organization and as a community several years ago to lure them back um to Rockford as their hometown.
56:53Um at the at that at that point in time, uh they had a number of personnel and activities and their headquarters was no longer Rockford, Illinois.
57:03And through that effort um they were able to acquire a property in East Rock Industrial Park and re-establish Rockford uh as their hometown.
57:12And as we've gone through that process, we also talked about additional programming that we would that would be beneficial not only to them, as I mentioned earlier in regards to creating their pipeline, um, but also outreach to the community.
57:26And as we had those conversations, uh we thought there was an opportunity that we could offset some of those costs, and then through that conversation is how this particular request came forward.
57:36So did they discuss with you how they go about their outreach?
57:42So uh yes, um, and I certainly can't talk about that in great detail.
57:49Um they have a significant budget.
57:52Um so they have a significant and robust fundraising um as an overall organization.
58:02I don't know what their overall I don't know what their told.
58:06Is that what I heard?
58:07You said they have a significant budget?
58:12And they need our money because to help support and run these additional programs that we discussed.
58:18And they can't do that with their significant budget?
58:21I don't believe they could.
58:27I don't really have any more questions.
58:32If I may, um so uh back to some of the commentary that was made here and questions.
58:38Is there a cost for these uh participants uh through the phantom regiment?
58:43Obviously, there's the instrument cost and so forth and uniforms and and so forth, but my question is is it is it free um to these participants or is there a fee that they have to incur?
58:57I don't know what the what the cost is.
58:59Uh much of the cost is uh being colored either by them or this grant proposal, so if there is a cost, it would be nominal.
59:14Thank you, uh Chairwoman for allowing me to speak on your committee.
59:18Gignoni, do you know if uh Phantom Regiment is renting space right now?
59:23They they own property, whether they rent additional space, I'm not certain.
59:29But the I just want to know if these funds would be covering um like rental fees for space or what have you.
59:37So no, no, it would not.
59:43Do you want to go so just I I just want to make uh uh similar commentary that uh Ms.
59:50Meeks has made um and uh I've brought this up again.
1:00:00I think there needs to be a process of how we know get these recipients, these not-for-profits, or whoever it is that you know we're we're trying to give them some grant opportunities because we have funding mechanisms.
1:00:08We have the casino revenue, we have the high risk.
1:00:11Uh we've seen that portion of it, or wherever ARPA funding that comes out of it sometimes.
1:00:18And so I'd like to understand that more, what our commitments are.
1:00:23Um, you know, what have we got our bang for a buck and per se from that perspective because they are taxpayers' money uh from that perspective on some of these things, and so coming out of the general fund.
1:00:34So I'd like to, you know, once again, um, because we had these budget discussions about the regrow and and so forth.
1:00:41I I honestly think that uh we we need to have some sort of policy in place um for that uh to ensure that you we understand how that process goes.
1:00:52Uh just to you alluded to your process that you explained how this was approached.
1:00:57I'm not taking anything against uh Phantom Regiment.
1:01:00I think they're great, they do good things.
1:01:02I've seen uh some of the performances and they compete, they they go on parades, it's et cetera, et cetera.
1:01:07I think it's wonderful uh from that aspect of it.
1:01:10I'm not questioning that.
1:01:11I'm questioning just you know, um, for clarification, transparency from that perspective of some of the decisions where this uh the casino money came from, whether it's ARPA, whether it's the wherever these funds are, and what our commitments are uh from that perspective.
1:01:28So I just I'm not asking you a question, I'm I'm just trying to express uh mutual things that Ms.
1:01:33Meeks has brought up.
1:01:34Um, and we've seen a couple things that have come forward, and you know, we've gotten challenged because we're tight on money, our budget uh constraints, etc.
1:01:43So just wanted to make sure that you know, hopefully down the road we can come up with some um sort of policy or procedures uh from the uh particular with not-for-profits or whoever um we need to uh enforce on that.
1:01:57So just that's my commentary.
1:02:01Are there any other questions or comments?
1:02:06Thank you, Chairwoman.
1:02:08Kenogan Cagnoni, can you share with us um I see the funding sources, the casino foundation funds?
1:02:16Um you share with us of other projects that have been funded through this fund in the past since establishing this fund.
1:02:24That's uh I off my memory, I I don't recall um what we have funded out of that program.
1:02:33I'd be happy to follow up with you.
1:02:34I just don't recall what other what off the top of my head, and I don't want to be wrong on that.
1:02:38Do you know if if we funded nonprofits through this fundamental?
1:02:42We have um maybe maybe Director Hagerty can answer this.
1:02:49You know, we if my time.
1:02:55So tourism grant and Rockford Break are two examples that we would have funded.
1:03:02Um we've also funded other not for profits, but not necessarily um with that funding source, you know, that went through the council process.
1:03:10We had a dental program with um Dr.
1:03:13Oates not that long ago, and I can't recall if we used this program or a different funding source.
1:03:21It was cannabis funds.
1:03:22Sorry, just to clarify, um, the cannabis funds were used for the dental program?
1:03:27Okay, so back to this fund.
1:03:29Um mentioned Rockford Break and tourism.
1:03:33Uh I guess my understanding here in that uh is it's more focused on economic development.
1:03:43Previous investments.
1:03:44It's uh you know, it's one of multiple buckets within the casino funds that f that city council could allocate funds to projects on.
1:03:53Not seeing it here, uh did not this is not my committee haven't done my due diligence in looking for what I'm gonna ask.
1:04:00Um is there like um a summary or uh mission vision or statement that is directly under casino foundation funds in what this body has um earmark these dollars for?
1:04:16Not on the and there are certain pillars or uh rubric, I guess, that we we follow in administering funds through this grant or through this uh line item.
1:04:28So there's not a mission statement or pillars, but I'd be happy to share the resolution that city council approved that designated the funds and the language that was in that.
1:04:42Thank you, Madam Chair.
1:04:46Oftentimes we look at money investments, and we say, is there an ROI?
1:04:54Is there a return on the investment?
1:05:00And you take an organization like the Phantom Regiments, nationally known, internationally known, and every time they travel, every time they're introduced, every time they have a literature, it says Rockford, Illinois.
1:05:18That's a big deal to me.
1:05:20Because very seldom do we can invest in places where every time they go, they talk about us.
1:05:27They talk about our city, where we're located, the good about this city, its parks, its rivers.
1:05:34It's a great investment, if nothing else, than to tell our story over and over and over again.
1:05:43And I tell you, besides that, musically, there are student excellence.
1:05:48They're not just children learning, there are children learning, but they're at the top of their game.
1:05:55They're professional in every aspect, coming from Rockford, Illinois.
1:06:01That makes me proud.
1:06:03And all the times we invest in things, and they're great things we invest in.
1:06:08This is one that procases our community.
1:06:12And I think for a hundred thousand dollars, as it may come from these sources, is a great return on our investment for the city.
1:06:21That's my comment.
1:06:31Cignoni, do you know if the Phantom Regiment participates or collaborates with the Art Art Arts Council?
1:06:40I believe they do, but I don't know to what level.
1:06:46Are there any other questions or comments?
1:07:04Are there any questions or comments?
1:07:06All those in favor say aye.
1:07:10Any opposed, same sign?
1:07:11This meeting is adjourned.