17:32Good evening and welcome to the City of Roswell Mayor and Council meeting on Monday, July thirteenth, twenty twenty-six.
17:40I am Mayor Mary Robichau, and I would like to introduce my colleagues and council members present.
17:46We have Mayor Pro Tem and Councilmember Sarah Beeson, Councilmember Alan Sells, Councilmember Christine Hall, Councilmember Jennifer Philippi, Councilmember Aaron Brumley, and Councilmember Chris Zach.
18:00I will now turn it over to City Administrator Randy Knighton to explain how the meeting is run.
18:07Thank you, Mayor Robushow, and good evening, everyone.
18:10In accordance with section chapter three point seven zero of the city code, the city council shall hold regular public meetings.
18:16The purpose of these city council meetings are for the public to participate and speak on items which constitute formal decisions by the elected body.
18:26These items are listed on the published agenda, which can be accessed via the city website prior to the meeting.
18:31And also back at the rear of the room.
20:00In your word, we're instructed to seek the prosperity of the city and pray to the Lord on its behalf, for in its prosperity will be your prosperity.
20:12So to that end, we pray for your blessing on the mayor and city council and other leaders tonight for wisdom and strength and encouragement as they leave the city.
20:23I pray that you would give them peace during challenging times, wisdom and discernment when the path ahead is unclear.
20:30Valor in times when unpopular choices have to be made for the greater good.
20:37Strength to shoulder the load of responsibility and comfort in times of loneliness that only leaders know.
20:46We also pray for the staff and all the departments and the men and women who work so hard to make the city a very special place to be.
20:55We pray for their protection, wisdom, unity, and peace.
20:59We pray for our police, our fire and emergency services who protect us all.
21:04And as we look around this room and outside these windows, we pray for the flourishing of our families and our friends and our neighbors and confidence that as we seek the prosperity of this city, we might enjoy prosperity in return.
21:21And Lord, above all, may we grow in love one for another, just as you have loved us.
21:28So we pray now that the proceedings of this evening be guided by your wisdom and your love for the flourishing of all who live and work and play here.
21:38Thank you, gracious Lord, for your goodness and for shedding your grace upon the city.
21:44And we pray this in your mighty name.
21:50At this time, I would like to invite Sarah Gillespie, our school board member for for Roswell, up to lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance.
22:00Thank you, Mayor Propos.
22:02Thank you, Councilmembers.
22:03I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands.
22:12One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
22:29So as I get ready to start the mayor's report uh report, we're gonna have quite a few.
22:35We have a few um appointments that we'll be voting on for different of our commissions, but I also do want to take a minute to remind everyone about our upcoming budget workshops.
22:45The first one will be Wednesday, July 15th at Roswell Area Park at the Bill Johnson Community Activities Building from 7 to 5 p.m.
22:55The second one will be Saturday July 18th at East Roswell Park Recreation Center from 9 to 11 a.m.
23:04And again, I'm sorry.
23:06The time on the first meeting?
23:10I'm sorry, what did I say?
23:14Sorry, dyslexia here.
23:16Um so I I apologize.
23:21Um, the budget survey is actually now live.
23:24So again, please scan the QR code on the flyer outside the council chambers.
23:29And for those of you uh visiting us from home, you can visit our finance page on the city website and click the link to please give us your um information about the budgeting information for Roswell.
23:41With that, the first item on the mayor's report is an announcement of the reappointment of Nate Porter to the Roswell Housing Authority.
23:49I do not believe Nate is here.
23:51This is one position.
23:52Um it does not require a vote, it is an appointment by the mayor.
23:57The next is going to be a reappointment of Ron Jackson to the Historic Preservation Commission.
24:06So does council have any comments or questions regarding this reappointment?
24:14I will have to if you have questions.
24:19Do it do I hear a motion?
24:23Motion from Sarah, uh, Councilmember Beeson.
24:27Councilmember Jennifer Phil from Councilmember Philippi.
24:30All in favor, please raise your hand.
24:36Today's not gonna be a good day.
24:42The next appointment is Tom Hamlin to the design review board.
24:47Again, does council have any comments or questions regarding this appointment?
24:54Motion from Councilmember Hall.
24:56Do I have a second second from Councilman Member Brumley?
25:00All in favor, please raise your hand.
25:10Do I the next appointment is Joe Zirkus for the design review board?
25:15Does Council have any comments or questions regarding this appointment?
25:25Councilmember Brumley.
25:27All in favor, please raise your hand.
25:34And the next appointment is Patrick Caffrey to the downtown development authority.
25:39Does council have any comments or questions regarding this appointment?
25:50Councilmember Philippi.
25:51All in favor, please raise your hand.
25:56At this time, all those who have been appointed either or reappointed.
26:01If you would join me in front, we will issue the um oath of office, and you will be signing some forms.
26:32Do you have someone you would like to hold it or do you want to hold it yourself?
26:42When I do this is for my state house to put out my doing.
26:53Well, look at this, very talented.
26:55So we are going to do this on groups.
26:58So I'm going to, when I ask you to state your name, please just state your name.
27:02So I please state your name.
27:09Solemnly swear or affirm that I will support the I'm sorry.
27:17This is my first time doing this.
27:18So you stayed your name.
27:22That I will support the Constitution of the United States and of the state of Georgia.
27:27But I will support the Constitution of the United States.
27:31And that I will in all respects observe.
27:37The provisions of the charter.
27:41And ordinances of the city of Roswell.
27:46And I will well and truly perform the duties of the office.
27:50Well and truly reform the duties of the office of the office.
27:56Downtown Development Authority.
28:02And that I will to the utmost of my skill and ability.
28:09Endeavor to promote the interest in property of said city.
28:13Endeavor to promote the interests and property of said city.
28:17Without fear, favor or affection.
28:30And then if you don't mind, we'd love to have a picture with all of council.
29:09Thank you for your willingness to serve.
29:11Can we take a couple of pictures with council?
29:30Karen, I've got a story I didn't share with somebody.
29:40Here I think she buy the second.
29:43All right, let's go up to mine.
29:59I want to feel taller.
30:10I mean, squeeze in a little bit over this way.
30:15Just keep yeah, keep moving moving over a little bit more.
30:20A little bit closer.
30:22Yeah, close that gap.
30:25Oh, that would be fine.
30:29All right, and look over here.
31:20Next is the consent agenda.
31:22City Clerk Long, would you read the consent agenda?
31:26Are there any speakers for it?
31:30We have one speaker, Courtney Courtney Rosier for item number two approval of a resolution to apply for and accept a national endowment for the arts grant.
31:45I thought it important this evening to point out an item on the consent agenda and say the name Nancy Jackson.
31:52At the Roswell, as the Roswell 365 event material for a presentation during this year's Roots Festival says, Nancy Jackson's story is an amazing true story of a woman who gave up her family and everything she know she knew to fight for her freedom.
32:08At the age of 22, this courageous woman risked her life to stand up for her rights and to set a precedent that created a path for other enslaved people to become free.
32:37Here's an observation from John Mills, who led the repair of Nancy Jackson's gravestone and visited Bullock Hall last year with descendants of William Jackson, Nancy Jackson's brother, who was enslaved at Bullock Hall.
32:52Visiting the Bullock Mansion in Georgia, I learned they tell the story of the elegance of the Bullock family and Teddy Roosevelt's visit to see where his mother was raised.
33:02Nancy, it's not important in their intent.
33:06Thank you to the council for approving the resolution to apply and accept for the grant.
33:11Thank you to the historic and cultural affairs team, especially Jenny Goldman, for hearing such request and being intentional in bringing this important freedom story forward, while as the agenda narrative says, uncovering additional stories that reflect the complexities of the American experience and the enduring significance of freedom, citizenship, and individual rights.
33:41Are there any other speakers?
33:43There are no other speakers for the consent agenda.
33:46Does council have any comments regarding the consent agenda?
33:52Do I have a motion to approve the consent agenda?
33:56Councilmember Beeson.
34:00All in favor, please raise your hand.
34:03Vote passes unanimously.
34:07Next one is the regular agenda.
34:09City Clerk Long, please read the first item.
34:13Yes, this item is approval of the FY2026 mid-year budget amendment amendment presented by Director of Finance, Adam Novotney.
34:53Mayor, Councilmember, good evening.
34:55Nice to see you all.
34:56Uh the item before you tonight is the 2026 mid year budget amendment for your consideration.
35:02The purpose of which is to align the 2026 budget with operational needs identified or changed since adoption for reference.
35:11The budget was adopted back in October of 2025, so a few things have changed since then.
35:17This item was passed by committee on the 23rd of June.
35:30Some additional items that are in the mid-year budget amendment for these kind of bucketed categories that we have before you.
35:38Some public safety and emergency readiness, parks, recreation, and community, facilities and infrastructure, technology and operations, and personnel and administration.
35:50Some of those items in further details, some police staffing stabilization, inclement weather staffing and equipment from the weather incident we had back in January for the fire department, school zone flasher upgrades, some ADA accessibility improvements at public safety headquarters, Old Mill Park summer operations for staffing, Office 365 licensing, and a much needed grants manager position.
36:20The funding adjustments that fund this amendment are as follows.
36:40Some cultural arts revenue updates, some short-term rental revenue, uh IT fund balance for use of paying for the Microsoft 365 licenses, and then a bucket of other such as insurance claim dollars and some reimbursements we had from the move into public safety headquarters.
36:59The last item on there is actually an a negative adjustment to revenue.
37:02Uh as I said during committee, we were a victim of our own success with some of the school zone fine revenues at doing as as they should, just not with any revenue to accompany them.
37:15On here, this is the total budget impact for the funding usage and the funding sources being congruent with one another.
37:22Um the net impact to the budget is zero dollars overall.
37:26Um the budget remains in in balance in accordance with um state laws governing that.
37:34And then again, some of the items that are listed on the additional attachment on the agenda items when you approve.
37:41If you should elect to approve the mid-year budget amendment, it again maintains some public safety safety staffing, record restores some key operational services, addresses infrastructure and technology needs, recognizes updated revenues, and uh again the budget is um neutral and balanced for your consideration.
38:06City Clerk Long, are there any speakers for this item?
38:11One speaker, Roman Pierzak.
38:18Good evening, everyone.
38:21Uh I have more question than comment.
38:24Um I was reading one of your slides where it says uh finance and sales stock revenue increase and insurance premium revenue increase.
38:37Uh can you explain to me please what you mean insurance premium revenue increase because it's close to half a million dollars and sales taxes also $500,000.
38:50So can you explain to me what's the insurance premium?
38:56And what are the component total component or part of the component of sales stocks revenue from where they're coming?
39:04I mean the large amount, not I don't ask if you could receive something eight and a half thousand from whatever.
39:12But if you can explain to me what it is.
39:18I may have question to your explanation.
39:25So this again, the sales tax revenue is uh money that is collected by the state and distributed based upon population.
39:32And so these are sales tax revenues that are uh largely impacted from uh county activity, not necessarily just at the city.
39:40Um there's a formula that goes into that.
39:42And then the insurance premium tax uh revenue is any time that you have an insurance policy, there's a tax that you pay on the premium as premiums go up or the amount insured goes up, there's an accompanying revenue.
40:00What we've done is essentially that comes in at the later end of the calendar year, uh worked out a little differently when we were on a um a non-calendar year fiscal year.
40:05Um and what we've essentially done is set this projected number to what we almost exactly to what we received in 25.
40:12So we have every reasonable expectation that that would be the case in in this year in 26.
40:24Are there any other questions from the audience?
40:28There are no other speakers.
40:31Does council have any comments or questions regarding this item?
40:35Councilmember Halloween thank you, Mayor.
40:42Um as I'll reiterate as I did in the committee meeting that I'm very, very disappointed in this mid-year budget amendment.
40:54So our budget was adopted in October, um, you know, really nine months ago, and we are six months into a hundred million dollar general budget, two hundred million dollar total budget.
41:09And what we're really doing is just basically it's it's a million, a million one because two hundred thousand of that roughly is a journal entry as we discussed.
41:19This process needs to have been much more robust, open, transparent, and really looked into where we were on revenues, where we were against budget, where we were on expenses.
41:33Uh, six months into a budget.
41:35I mean, you're over, and you're you're gonna be over and under in different areas, and we really really didn't address that.
41:42The the other thing is just just looking at the um mayor's office expenses of staffing is very concerning to me.
41:51Um during the previous administration, four years staffing compensation packages were about 750,000.
42:00They're ballooned over to 2.1 million dollars for the next four years, and we're adding another um administrative assistant there.
42:10So I cannot support this budget, and that's why I'll be voting no.
42:17Any other comments or questions from council?
42:20Councilmember Beeson.
42:23Just from my perspective, this seems pretty standard in terms of how we've addressed mid-year budget amendments in the past.
42:29Obviously, you've addressed adjusted revenues based off of income.
42:33There's no way you would be able to align for that.
42:36Um, also my criticism of how we changed the budget budget process within the last administration.
42:42One of the key criticisms that I had made was that you would have a lame duck mayor at his administration or her that would be setting the budget for the incoming administration.
42:53So obviously, you would be having different priorities that are going to be adjusted for based off an incoming administration.
43:00Um that said, I don't understand how we can really criticize the addition of administrative staff, specifically um administrative assistance, and in some cases executive assistance when the previous administration had budgets with COOCOs, C all of the O's, and you had no qualms with approving those in terms of the budget.
43:22Additionally, you were the same person who was telling us or urging us on council not even three months ago to dip into discrepancy or discretionary budgets and contingency funds to try to fix a um pond in your neighborhood.
43:36So council member Beson, please do not get into the personal issues.
43:41I'm keeping it relevant to the vote.
43:43I ask again, please do not.
43:46I can maintain my opinion.
43:47And I maintain my opinion on that.
43:56Thank you for bringing that up.
43:58That is um dredging is also been a priority in this administration or in the prior administrations, um, not so much so in this administration.
44:08And I was disappointed that we did not focus on stormwater management as part of this um budget amendment.
44:18Councilmember Beeson.
44:20If that was the case, is it could have easily been amended in the previous administration's budget, which was set for this year to increase the dredging budget.
44:28However, you approved that budget.
44:33Any other comments or questions?
44:39May I have a motion?
44:41Councilmember Beeson.
44:43May I have a second?
44:44Councilmember Brumley, all in favor of the mid-year budget.
45:00City Clerk Long, please read the second item on the regular agenda.
45:06Item number 10462, approval of a construction contract with backbone infrastructure LLC and the amount of 9,489,436 for the Riverside Road T SPOSS Project and Budget Amendment 35042006, 2226 in the amount of 1,454 and 580 for the Fulton County Waterline IGA with a total project authorization of 10,721 and 901 dollars.
45:40And this is presented by Director of Transportation, Andy Flagar.
45:44Hey, thank you very much.
45:45So we've gone through the project, but just a little background.
46:00Open houses developing the concept happened in March of 2022, and through a series of about five meetings of the council, the final concept of what was going to be built was approved October 24th, 2022.
46:13So what we're going to build is an eight to ten foot multi-use trail with pedestrian lighting on the south side of Riverside Road, a five foot sidewalk on the north side, a roundabout at River Lake Drive, a new traffic signal at Taman Drive.
46:25We'll have buffer to bike lanes along the roadway and several pedestrian crossings across the corridor.
46:32The financial side, 11 bids were submitted or received for this project for construction backbone infrastructure was the lowest responsive responsible bidder.
46:44And with approval, we will move forward with awarding this contract for construction to backbone infrastructure.
46:54City Clerk Long, are there any speakers on this item?
46:59Speaker, Jason Yowell when this uh was being approved, I was on the Roswell Transportation Commission, and we uh were tasked with meeting with the bicycle people to come up with an accommodation.
47:32And in the meeting, Nathan Sears from the Flat Bicycle Group put down a uh rendering that indicated uh bicycle paths that were segregated from the roadway with the landscape strip.
47:47I immediately said that's it.
47:50Because what we were gonna have were six-foot bicycle lanes separated from the roadway by six-foot landscape strips that would also act as bioswales to clean the water.
48:04Now, this this road profile is the same 44 feet that ours would have been, except you're putting in at great expense just an absolutely unnecessary sidewalk and curb and gutter on the north side of the road.
48:21This will uh take storm water directly into the uh the river without any treatment.
48:28Uh it means we're increasing pollution, we're increasing uh uh uh impervious surface, so we're increasing flood water in the river corridor.
48:40Um the other thing is that when you have a uh a bicycle lane, and these bicycle lanes, you keep hearing buffered, but that buffer is a two-foot striped piece of asphalt attached to the roadway, attached to the bike lanes, which are really only four feet.
48:58Um you have bicycle lanes attached to the roadway, you are doubling the cost of that asphalt that you're putting down because it is built at a different spec.
49:09It has to be built at the roadway spec.
49:12So a third of your asphalt, you're paying double.
49:16You're also spending a great deal of money on curb and gutter and not thinking about well, how is that really gonna be used?
49:24Because no one's walking on that side of the street.
49:26They're gonna cross the street onto the multi-purpose path.
49:30Um if if you looking for uh an emergency landing strip, or you're looking to increase truck traffic or induce higher speeds on that corridor, this is a great road profile.
49:44Uh the more you you push the roadway out, the faster the cars go because the more desensitized they become to their actual speed.
49:53Same thing with trucks.
49:55They love to have that extra margin.
49:58Makes them feel very comfortable.
50:00So if these are the things that you want, this isn't the road profile that you want to do.
50:06Umright, I think the the concept plant had three roundabouts.
50:10I was adamantly against all of them except for the one that remains.
50:15That's a good thing, because the only place that it makes any sense for a roundabout in that corridor is at Riverside Park.
50:25The environmental consequences, the visual impact is going to be stunning.
50:32It's gonna look awful.
50:34I mean, that is a big onbroken bit of pavement, the uh adding to the the five-foot sidewalk separated from the roadway by two-foot curb and gutter and a two-foot beauty strip, it's just a massive amount of impervious surface that will be a visual blight in an area where we're spending a lot of money to enhance the usability of the park.
51:02Um, if you think that a six-foot bicycle lane is somehow less functional for the bicycle people than a four-foot bicycle lane with striping that still is right up against the roadway.
51:14Well, you know, you're entitled to your opinion, but I heartily disagree.
51:22For the last six months, all I've seen is the Wilson agenda being passed without any question.
51:30This is an opportunity, and I urge you to defer approving this contract until you can do some further study, meet with the uh the contractor and determine what if the alternative that we had recommended will in fact be feasible in within the budget.
51:54Now, Kurt Wilson turned to when I spoke about this when uh the contract to for the design work was being let out, I spoke against it.
52:04Kurt asked the uh acting uh transportation director at the time um what he thought would cost more, and he goes, Oh, well, their their plan would cost more.
52:15Oh, yeah, this is from a guy whose group was responsible for a 300% increase on on Oxford Road from six million to 18 million.
52:25I would really not take their word for what relative costs are.
52:34Are there any other speakers on this item?
52:47In hearing this, I was thinking about the history of Azalea Road.
52:51And because a Catholic priest was from Connecticut, he envisioned the idea of rowing.
52:57So he formed a rowing organization out of St.
53:00Andrew's Catholic Church.
53:02What would follow would be Atlanta Junior rowing further down by the Kudzu mounted on the north side of uh Azalea Drive.
53:11And they were storing boats along the road.
53:14Now the city wanting involvement in parks and recreation from the old apartments known as um Beau Ravage apartments uh that became condos on Azalea Drive, they had a community clubhouse on the river, and the city acquired that clubhouse.
53:35And as you notice, there are now storage facilities in that parking lot for Atlanta Junior Rowing, and St.
53:42Andrews has built their rowing storage on their property.
53:46Georgia Tech and Georgia State share rowing boats with the high schoolers rowing.
53:53I have a daughter, two daughters did one did rowing camp, the second one decided to row in middle school, and I thought, great, get off the cell phone and get in the water.
54:01And when she went to university in Miami, she saw they had a rowing team, and I said, call the coach and see if you can be a cox.
54:07I got 20% discount on tuition.
54:09And she traveled with the team, and was interesting, rowing is a much more popular sport in Northeastern Universities where we have larger rivers.
54:18And when the South rows, University of Louisville has a team, Ohio State has a team, but you see the Virginia regatta boat links ahead of the Georgia and and Florida rowing teams.
54:32So it has a grown sport, and we could have wonderful, you know, rowing events possibly more homeopathic to the community.
54:40But when you see that winding azalea road, and I have walked my bicycle up 120, you know, riding a bicycle from Holcomb Bridge to Dogwood to Azalea, and you see that sidewalk we we placed on 120 on the bullet call side, and you never see pedestrians there.
55:00When you were curving that rock wall, the Beau Rivage apartments, their sign was mounted, nailed into rocks on that north side of uh the road.
55:08And I don't know if you remember Steve Bashi, who lives in that house with a red tin roof.
55:13He heard a crash, and when he rescued someone from a burning car, has a gastrointestinal prosthetic.
55:20I recognize his facial profile, his eyes, nose, and mouth, and the Kroger on 120.
55:26I said, Steve, what happened to you?
55:27And he raises shirt.
55:29So it is a dangerous road, not just at nighttime.
55:33There are residents with curb cuts for condominiums.
55:36Those children might want to go and cross the park.
55:38Someone could be pushing a stroller.
55:40If you're on a sidewalk on the north side and a car is going by fast, they're not ready to recognize pedestrians.
55:47So you really need to think where will the sidewalk be used?
55:51When when older people or bikers want to bike, they're more likely gonna be close to the river.
55:57You know, years ago, you could you could see different accents of the community.
56:02You know, I could walk down Grimes Bridge Road, look down Meadowwood Road and see the city dome.
56:06That when I moved here in 1990, people told me about the bonds to build a new city hall.
56:11There's beautiful experiences of watching horses across in Hunt Cliff, you know, at Azalea Park where they have horses.
56:19There's so many beautiful attributes that people are more likely wanting to walk along the park than along the kudzu mountains.
56:26Then you have the maintenance.
56:27I had to do my own work when we didn't have a city um horticulturist with dead trees on Grimesbridge Road.
56:34And I had to, I had to go on Facebook because the Seventh day Adventist Church doesn't have a Facebook webpage to get their dead trees cut down because my neighbors across the street didn't like it bending their fences.
56:45So we have dead trees along sidewalks.
56:52I mean condos on Grimes Bridge had a dead um the river birch for a few years.
57:00No one was handling it.
57:01So when you're walking around trees on a sidewalk and a limb could break, and the the city isn't reinforcing the uh the dead tree ordinances for pedestrian safety, that's a hazard.
57:13That's that's high demand of maintaining you know the greenery or on that side north side of um Azalea Drive.
57:20We're on the the south side, you have the view of the river, you have the cool breeze, and it's more captivating walk than walking around those curves where people can go fast.
57:31And so I really believe a sidewalk on the north side is not a desirable or a highly used pathway, just like the one on 120 by Bullock and uh the pizza restaurant, and you don't see people walking up and down that sidewalk.
57:53Does council have any comments or questions regarding this item?
57:59Councilmember Sells.
58:04So I I think I'm hearing what Mr.
58:09Port's saying, and I pretty clear what what Mr.
58:13So could you answer some of these questions in particular?
58:16I wrote down three saw three things.
58:18One is the the width issue, which I have always been uh told that the the width of the road is a clear indicator, clear corollary to the speed of the of travel.
58:30So could you address that?
58:33And then the second, you know, minor point, I think in the grand scheme of things is the depth of the pavement, so it's more expensive.
58:40I I get that if it's part of the road, it's gonna be part of the road, it's gonna be the same depth as the road, but if you could address that, and then Mr.
58:46Parts' issue about the north side of the this north side construction and what that will mean.
58:52Can you can you please address those three things?
58:55So, as far as the width of the road, curb to curb, yes, it's going to be a larger road.
58:59The lanes, the travel lanes in the inside are going to be fairly small.
59:04Um, the bulk of the the rest of the pavement is a barrier, and then the bike lanes.
59:09Um, and what you're gonna see on the on the surface inside the curb lines are the bike riders that are out there um riding their 40, 70 miles um on their road bikes that are currently riding in the traffic lanes right now.
59:22So we're gonna separate them out.
59:24Um, yes, it's gonna be a little wider, it'll be a little more expensive, it would be full pavement, um full depth pavement.
59:30But the visual effect of the buffers is going to be fairly narrow lanes like we have now.
59:36There's only two lanes of traffic for there.
59:40For the sidewalk on the north side, the intent there is if you're just walking along, you're coming from the north side uh where the residential is, and you're trying to get to the river, you can walk down that sidewalk to get to one of the pedestrian crossings we have to get over to the multi-use trail to get to um to get to the parks that we have along the river.
1:00:02So some people, if they're just out for a walk, maybe they don't want to cross and walk on the multi-use trail on the riverside, or they can just use it to get to a safer place to cross that road.
1:00:13Just if you to follow up one bit the on the width issue, uh the separation, the buffer is going to simply be stripes, or is there going to be some kinetic diff uh it's gonna be it will be stripes.
1:00:26Okay, so so from a visual perspective, do you find that that changes speed when it's just simply stripes versus looking at for instance Willis Springs or places like that where we've strived?
1:00:38Have we seen any reduction in the if you s if you squeeze in the lane striping and people see a 10-foot lane, 11 foot lane and not 14 feet of pavement, it does do that.
1:00:48Um you can go down some roads um if you're going through larger residential areas that were built a long time ago with big wide road, if you just paint stripes in and have kind of throw away the pavement on the outside, there is a visual impact of making it squeeze a little bit.
1:01:03Um at the end of the day, if we still have issues, there's nothing that would stop us from going there and putting some uh additional knockdown barriers along those to reinforce that sizing.
1:01:14Okay, yeah, I did have not found that to be the case in terms of the slowing down in Horshew Bend where they've striped.
1:01:19I mean, there's still that steeplechase is still the autobond.
1:01:24Thank you for those answers.
1:01:26Councilmember Philippi.
1:01:31Um, can you tell us a little bit about what it would mean if we did defer this item?
1:01:35What does that mean for the city in terms of cost, time, what happens to the project?
1:01:39If we're looking at going back and redoing what the public and the council decided was a concept for what this road looks like four years ago, we're basically going back four years.
1:01:50All of the design work, if we're gonna change the profile, even a little bit, not a little bit.
1:01:58If you do a change to what the road is, we will have to go back, redesign it all.
1:02:04Um that is we have already gone through right-of-way acquisitions for the road that we need.
1:02:08Uh we have cleared all of the local and federal environmental permitting, showing that what we're doing with the water, the stormwater is acceptable.
1:02:16Um, all of the utility plans and agreements are gonna have to be reworked.
1:02:20Uh Fulton County is ready to replace their water line.
1:02:23That will all have to be redone.
1:02:25Um basically, we just we're gonna rewind the clock, throw away the entire design, the cost of it.
1:02:31It was basically basically going to be starting over and four years from now with a new concept with a new set of plans and a new bid from a contractor for construction.
1:02:42And I know you weren't here at the time, but uh are you familiar with the plans that were referenced um with this um more environmentally friendly type of of structure?
1:02:53I was not until recently.
1:02:54Okay, so you don't have any information about that being evaluated or or what happened at that point.
1:03:00I do not know I I would assume that all of that was evaluated as at part of the concepts, the workshops with the public, and then between the five meetings with the council of here's the different things.
1:03:12This is the concept we're going to go with.
1:03:18Councilmember Beson.
1:03:21Given the current design, is there a potential option for protected bike lanes in the future of modifications later to be able to protect the bike lanes?
1:03:32Okay, so if there are safety issues moving forward, there are barriers to me, knockdown posts we can put down.
1:03:38I think you've seen in the city of Atlanta, they're like plastic, but I mean there are ways to take that striping and make it more permanent or more solid.
1:03:46Yeah, bollards, uh codes.
1:03:49Um, that addresses my concerns.
1:03:53Councilmember Sells and then I appreciate those answers.
1:03:56Um, and also uh you weren't here, but uh I'm looking for Watson, but he's not here.
1:04:01But uh, you know, we did look at the stormwater issues and address those as well.
1:04:05Um maybe if someone else remembers that conversation from that time, I'm I'm pretty pretty confident that he was consulted on that, and uh there was a good fair amount of discussion about that.
1:04:18Councilmember Sack.
1:04:22Um, I'm kind of curious on the sidewalk on the north side.
1:04:26Um, because the more you hear about it, the more I I kind of agree that I don't know how much it would be used.
1:04:31And I'm kind of curious, could you would it be possible to break out what that cost would be and would it be possible to have that evaluated as removal and design, or is that part of the whole package?
1:04:41I think at this point it's part of the whole package.
1:04:44But I I really do feel that you know, with the housing with residential on that side, I think there will be people that are trying to get down to the river that for the span between uh the traffic signal with crosswalks, the pedestrian crossings that are gonna be signalized to let them safely cross.
1:05:00know how much it would be used and I'm kind of curious could you would it be possible to break out what that cost would be and would it be possible to have that evaluated as removal and design or is that part of the whole package I think at this point it's part of the whole package but I I really do feel that you know with the housing with residential on that side I think there will be people that are trying to get down to the river that for the span between the traffic signal with crosswalks the pedestrian crossings that are going to be signalized to let them safely cross if you don't have anything over there they're walking in the weeds looking for a place to jump across that road councilmember hall thank you and I I just want to remind everybody that this is all of these elements were put together to work together this is not a a la carte you know let me grab this and let me grab this this this is an entire design that incorporates all of these elements and just to address the sidewalk on the north side uh a sidewalk doesn't accommodate uh multimodal uh trans transportation like a multi-use trail does so there may be people uh they could be older they could be younger uh that don't want to be on a multimodal trail and they will go to the north side and walk on the north side also all the people coming down from Grimes Bridge and coming down that I think that's dogwood I mean as you had mentioned they'll have access on the north side and they can cross over to the multi-use trail so this is not a let's just you know a la carte this is an entire concept that was made to work together with a lot of stakeholder input a lot of resident input and we're here I mean basically approving the construction contract I mean four years of work so just like to remind folks that council member Beeson to reiterate uh councilmember hall's point this was an ongoing process that was several years long I speak purely anecdotally from personal experience I lived in River Mill condominiums for several years and I got to do the weed walk several times and almost had a heart attack when I stepped on a beheaded snake thankfully he was already dead uh but it's a terrifying walk on that shoulder um there are several residences on that far side of the road that would be serviced for that area but it also connects a separate section of the park that people often forget are there which is the Vickery Creek section which is where I was traversing trying to get back to my condo it would connect highway nine and the whole river park system into that Vickery Creek park system where people often go hiking through those trails um because right now there actually is no sidewalk along that area and that also would allow for better connectivity into the downtown area for people who are using um the river park section for recreation use and tying them into the downtown area for economic benefit to the city um but lastly as well I think the what council member sells was addressing that there was a conversation I apologize if I misquote it but I could have sworn that when we discussed including bioswales along the river area both in Azalea and Riverside that the issue was washout due to flooding that the plants would not be maintained due to the level of flooding that had previously occurred so they needed to be able to incorporate larger scale of draining and stormwater accommodations that the bioswells could not accommodate if this is not the section of road that we were referring to in that conversation I apologize in advance but I am trying to address the question about the bioswaling because that is something that I've asked to incorporate in other road designs in the past and I think significant flooding was something that GDOT pushed back on a number of times.
1:08:22Any other comments council may I have a motion council member Beeson may I have a second council member hall in favor passes unanimously city clerk long please read the last item on the regular agenda this is item number 10508 approval for the mayor or city administrator to sign an IGA between Fulton County and participating cities for use and distribution of 2026 transportation special purpose local option sales tax proceeds also presented by director of transportation Andy Flagar so as promised this is the last step of the 2026 T Sploss process the list has been given to Fulton County this is requesting permission to sign the intergovernment government agreement with Fulton County where they will collect the sales tax and share it amongst the cities our portion based on population is 15 point zero four percent of the taxes collected City Clerk Long are there any speakers for this item speakers for this item does council have any questions or comments for this item Councilmember Halloween thank you mayor I just I just have one question and I I think I know the answer but I just want clarity on it in our tier one projects we put an aggregate amount of 15 million dollars in there for resurfacing which I'm not uh supporting but I'm going to support the T S Plus it's it's not um I think that should be a a general um expense and not a special expense but um what is the guarantee that we will not use all 15 million in the first year as we discussed in our committee meetings we had um indicated that we were going to just
1:10:0015.04 percent of the taxes collected city clerk long are there any speakers for this item speakers for this item does council have any questions or comments for this item council member hall thank you mayor I just I just have one question and I I think I know the answer but I just want clarity on it uh in our tier one projects we put an aggregate amount of 15 million dollars in there for resurfacing which I'm not uh supporting but I'm going to support the T splas it's it's not um I think that should be a a general um expense and not a special expense but um what is the guarantee that we will not use all 15 million in the first year as we discussed in our committee meetings we had um indicated that we were going to just allocate five million dollars at a maximum amount that is correct and there I don't know what you have other than my word um but as as we as we spend funds out of this amount my understanding is it does come to um the council for approval to use T Splos money for certain so the can so the council um could basically the the council at the time could basically say we don't want to allocate any towards uh repaving uh because we want to do it on this other priority item maybe there's another critical item um path item or something like that so we have that flexibility I believe that's correct because any any project I move forward or the department moves forward and wants to spend the T SPLOS funding on we will come to council present it with the request to move money from the T Splos fundings to fund that project okay thank you just for clarification um when we say move money from a T splot it's to another T splot project we cannot move it outside of those that if it is approved and we move forward with T Splot 2026 it has to be one of the listed projects has to be one of the listed projects yes any other questions or comments may I have a motion council member Philippi can I have a second council member Zach all in favor please raise your hand passes unanimously thank you Andy next on the agenda is the city attorney's report city attorney Davidson please read the item thank you mayor the only item I have is a recommendation to go into closure at 5 30 on Monday July 27 2026 to discuss personnel litigation andor real estate may I have a motion y'all I want to go Jennifer Councilmember Philippi may I have a second council member Zach all in favor please raise your hand passes unanimously thank you being that there are no other items this mayor and council meeting on Monday July 13 2026 is adjourned keep looking what