Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.

If we could please have our Spanish interpretation services statement.

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All right.

My name is John Bustamante, and I am the chair of the zoning commission of the City of San Antonio, as well as the District 5 zoning commissioner.

The time is 101.

I hereby call this regularly noticed meeting of the City of San Antonio Zoning Commission into session.

I'd like to do roll call by having the zoning commissioners introduce themselves, starting with the commissioner on my far left.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Marco Barrosa, District 9.

Daniel Callum, District 1.

John Witsett, District 10.

George Anohosa, District 3.

Eddie Reyes, District 4.

Kinhuit, District 6.

Janelle Chase, Mayor's Office.

All right.

Staff is a quorum present.

Yes, the quorum is present.

All right.

Thank you so much.

If everyone would please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.

To the Republic for which it stands.

All right.

Before we begin our hearings, I would like staff to please review our meeting format for the benefit of those in the audience.

Staff, if you would.

Before I begin, I request that everyone please turn off your phones or put them on vibrate.

The zoning commission is an 11-member body appointed by the city council to make recommendations on zoning cases.

Upon receiving a recommendation from the commission, you will have six months from the date of the commission's recommendation to forward your case to City Council.

If you have any questions regarding this procedure, please contact your case manager.

Staff will begin each case with a short presentation of the request.

Part of the presentation includes a map that shows the area to be considered for rezoning and property within 200 feet of the subject property.

Check marks will indicate those property owners in favor of the request, and an X will indicate those property owners in opposition.

Following this presentation and any questions by the commission, the applicant will present their request.

For those that have signed up to speak for or against the proposed rezoning, you will be called in the order that you are signed up to speak.

Those in support and opposition will be allowed a maximum of two minutes to speak.

And you are not obligated to utilize the maximum time limitation.

You will be informed that your two minutes are up.

For those that would like to give their time to another speaker, that speaker will be allowed a maximum of two people giving their time a total of six minutes.

Those giving up their time must be present and signed in to speak.

And please announce that when that speaker is going up the podium that you are yielding your time.

The applicant then will be given an opportunity for rebuttal limited to one speaker with a three-minute time limit, along with an opportunity to address commissioner questions.

Thank you, Chair.

All right, thank you so much.

Um do we have any withdrawn postponed items?

No, we do not.

All right, very good.

Uh if we could please list the items on our first consent agenda, please.

Items on the combined hearing are item number one, three, four, five, seven, eight, nine, eleven, twelve, and thirteen.

All right.

Commissioners, any items to be pulled for individual consideration that are currently on the combined hearing agenda.

Looking to my left, seeing none, looking to my right, seeing none, looking remotely, seeing none.

Uh if we could please uh read the combined hearing number one into the record, please.

Item number one, a request for a change of zoning from R5 to IDZ1 with uses permitted for twelve units located at 157 West Broadview Drive.

All overlays to remain the same.

Sixteen notices sent out zero in favor, zero opposed.

Woodlawn Hills Neighborhood Association gave no response.

Item number three, a request for a change of zoning from R20 to R6 CD with a conditional use for two dwelling units located at 4211 Boxwood Road.

All overlays to remain the same.

Twenty one notices sent out, zero in favor, two opposed outside two hundred feet, three opposed, no neighborhood association within two hundred feet.

Item number four, a request for a change of zoning from I-1 to IDZ1 with uses permitted in MF18 at located at 107 Cass Street.

All overlays to remain the same.

44 notices sent out, one in favor, one opposed.

Devon Heights did not provide a response.

Item number five, a request for a change of zoning from C2, C2NA with a conditional use for mini storage facility.

C three and C2S with specific use authorization for solar battery storage to C2S with a specific use authorization for utilities.

Solar battery storage located on the 8800 block of Marbach Road.

All overlays to remain the same.

71 notices sent out one in favor, two opposed.

Outside 200 feet, three in favor, zero posts.

Rainbow Hills Area Neighborhood Association gave no response.

Item number seven, a request for a change of zoning from R5 C D with the conditional use for professional office to R5 C D IDZ with a conditional use for food service establishment.

Located at 530 East Courtland Place.

All overlays to remain the same.

29 notices sent out, two in favor, one opposed.

Outside 200 feet, two in favor, zero opposed.

Tobin Hill Neighborhood Association is in support.

All overlays to remain the same.

46 notices sent out.

Zero in favor, one opposed.

West N Hope in action.

And Martinez Creek Neighborhood Association gave no response.

Prospect Hill Neighborhood Association is in favor.

A request for a change of zoning from R6 to R6 C D with a conditional use for two dwelling units located at 604 West Hollywood Avenue.

All overlays to remain the same.

38 notices sent out two in favor, zero opposed.

Beacon Hill Neighborhood Association is in support.

Item number 11 is a request for a change of zoning from C2 to C2 IDZ, located at 4130 Broadway Street, all over least remain the same.

19 notices sent out zero in favor, one opposed.

Mankey Park is in support.

21 notices sent out, zero in favor, zero opposed, no neighborhood association within 200 feet.

Item 13, a request for a change of zoning from FR to BP, located at 1422 3 State Highway 16 North, all over lace to remain the same.

17 notices sent out, zero in favor, zero opposed, and there is no neighborhood association within 200 feet.

All right.

Thank you so much.

Is there any public comment?

No public comment on those items.

No, we have voicemails.

Stand corrected.

So we have voicemails for item number three, item number seven, and item number nine.

If we could please place play those voicemails now.

My address is 242 Bonair, San Antonio, Texas, 782.

Um I'm calling in regards to the rezoning request.

Um the case number Z-2025-107083.

Um D and then Charlie David.

Um I'm against the rezoning.

I do not wish for the rezoning to um take place.

We've already had um some issues with um the occupants of that property and the owners of the property um affecting um our residents here.

And um I feel that changing the zoning will only um increase the issues, it'll increase the traffic flow.

It'll just increase all kinds of um negative uh impacts that I don't wish to have in our neighborhood, especially right next door.

So my wish is that the rezoning does not pass and that it remains as is right now.

Thank you.

Uh yes, sir.

My name is 4235 Boxwood.

Um calling about 4211 Boxwood Road uh on the zoning, rezoning uh case number Z 2025 107-0083 CD.

I'm calling to protest the new zoning that they want to do.

Uh our houses uh very valuable right now and duplics and apartments is not gonna be a really good thing for our street.

Not only that, um we had issues with the man not cutting his grass.

We have recorded him.

He's also done construction work without no permits.

So this is my protest.

Uh thank you here.

Thank you.

Bye-bye.

Hello, my name is Heather Williams.

My number is 210 219 8221.

This is in regard to case number Z 2025 107083 C is in Charlie Delta.

Um, and I would like to voice my opinion about the zoning change request.

Um, I am against a zoning change request for that neighboring property um for several different reasons.

Um I already know that there's been a lot of commercial uh activity and that property um that has uh caused um issues for us uh as neighbors.

Um, and I know that if they were to uh be allotted the uh change in zoning that the problems would probably get much worse.

Um we've had uh situations where our water was cut off um without our well, it was cut off because they said that it was they they used our address as their address.

Um just lots and lots of issues that we've had, but that was just one.

Um so again, I want to voice my opinion against the zoning change request.

Um that I am against that.

Um thank you so much.

Bye-bye.

Yes, my name is Mr.

Rios.

I am uh protesting an address is 4211 Boxwood Road.

I think it uh it goes for a vote today.

I am protesting the upgrade of the zoning view the fact that this man does not do uh things right.

He has been caught.

Uh check this out.

Uh he cut the the street in the middle of the street and tap a four-inch pipe sewer pipe without no permit.

Uh he was caught doing this uh a couple of uh years ago, and we had to turn him in.

Um so I'm protesting that that job is not gonna be done right.

Uh he does uh uh his own work and doesn't do things right, doesn't get permits.

I'm also protesting it due to the fact that our properties will go down, and I'm protesting it that uh we don't need no more duplics or apartments uh in that area.

Thank you.

The address is 4211 Boxwood with a B.

Thank you.

This is Betty Boucher for the Conservation Society of San Antonio, phone number 210 2246163.

Um this is a public comment for uh item number seven at 530 East Portland Place, case number Z-2025-107-00154 CD.

The conservation society is requesting that this uh case be postponed so that there will be an opportunity for uh the neighborhood association to receive the notification, and we're specifically interested in the Tobin Hill Community Association so they can receive notification and provide an opportunity for their comments.

Thank you.

Hello, my name is Cynthia Walker.

I live at 1038 West Summit Avenue.

My phone number is 818-489-2599.

I'm calling in reference to zoning case Z-2025-1070160 C D.

Um the address is 604 West Hollywood.

I'm calling in.

I'm calling in behalf of the Beacon Hill Neighborhood Association.

I am the chair of the committee.

We would like to um request that the zoning commission approve the zoning change request for 604 West Hollywood.

The Beacon Hill Neighborhood Association voted unanimously on August 11, 2025.

It supports the applicant's request for zoning change at 604 West Hollywood from R6 to R6 CD for two units.

The zoning corrects a non-performing property.

The site has long had two units.

And by making himself available for questions by residents on Office 11th.

Again, Beacon Hill Neighborhood Association requests that the zoning commission approve the zoning change request for 604 West Hollywood.

Thank you.

And that's it for public comment.

Thank you so much.

We are going to pull item number three to individual consideration.

Commissioners, any other items to be pulled for individual consideration looking left, seeing none, looking right, seeing none, looking remotely, seeing none.

Is there a motion?

Mr.

Chair.

I'd like to move to approve the following items.

Item number one, four, five, seven, eight, nine, eleven, twelve, and thirteen.

Is there a second?

I'll take it back.

All right.

Any discussion looking left?

Seeing none.

Looking right, seeing none, looking remotely, seeing none.

Uh the motion is for approval of the items as read.

Uh roll call vote, please.

Commissioner Huey.

Aye.

Commissioner Barros?

Yes.

Commissioner Kellum.

Yes.

Commissioner Noosa?

Yes.

Commissioner Reyes?

Yes.

Commissioner Wetzett.

Yes.

Commissioner Chase.

Yes.

Chair Abustamante?

Aye.

Motion carries.

All right, very good.

Ladies and gentlemen, if you were here for any of those items, they are now moving on with a recommendation of approval to city council.

You will have six months to go before city council to complete this zoning process.

So go out, stay hydrated.

Uh have a good day.

All right.

We are now going to move on to our individual docket because we do not have any continuance dockets for today.

All right.

So our first item on it for individual consideration is item number two.

Good afternoon.

My name is Alexa Ratana, zoning planner with development services.

Item number two is located at 2634 East Houston Street, going from R4 residential single family to C1 Light Commercial District with all overlays staying the same.

There were 48 notices sent out, two in favor, one opposed within the 200 feet.

Jefferson Heights and Harvard East Lawn Neighborhood Association escaped no response.

Outside the 200 feet, there was also no response.

The existing R4 residential single family district is an appropriate zoning for the property and surrounding area.

The proposed C1 like commercial district is not.

Thank you.

Is the applicant present?

If you would please come up.

Please tell us your name and your address, and then tell us a little bit about your project if you would.

Good afternoon.

My name is Raina Sims.

Uh the property address is 2634 East Houston Street.

And um we are hoping to amend uh current zoning to the RM6 with the conditional use for uh professional office, which we would like to use for a tax off tax office or notary public.

Something simple business hours 10 to 3 p.m.

Monday through Friday by appointment only.

Okay.

Thank you so much.

So now I'm if you stay right there for a second.

Uh I'm gonna ask you uh you are amending your request to RM6 with a conditional use for professional office, correct?

Thank you.

Is there any public comment?

There is no public comment for this item.

Okay.

Um this is a district two case.

Uh Commissioner Watson is not present today, so Commissioner Chase will be handling this case.

Hello, uh, the only question I have is um I know you said that you would possibly operate from eight to three.

Would you be willing to oper um have it in your stipulations eight to five?

It allows you more time, but it also um allows the neighborhood to kind of wind down during the busiest hours.

Um well our initial idea was to have the business average from 10 a.m.

to 3 p.m.

And that was mostly to accommodate the neighbors and traffic and whatnot.

Um we were thinking that opening at 8 a.m.

would may interfere with the East Houston entrance to the to the property with the neighbors and you know them going and coming in from work.

Um so that was a reason why we chose 10 to 3 p.m.

Okay, if you're willing to I just didn't want to limit you um from if you want to do from 10 to 5 or 10 to 430.

I just wanted you to allow yourself to have more hours without constraining you, but it makes sense to for the traffic flow to avoid the 8 a.m.

rush and then again the 5 p.m.

rush.

So um, you know, you you're free to operate from 10 to 3, but I just wanted to allow you uh more hours, but stipulate them, you know, if you're willing to do from 9 30 to um 4 30 in in writing.

Well, I appreciate that.

I mean, if if if you recommend it having from 10 to 5 or 8 to 5, I would yeah, we we we're happy to do that.

Just at least even if we don't have it open from those hours, so that you know we can at least accommodate in case we we need it, it's already there.

Thank you.

Exactly.

Thank you.

All right, anything further, Commissioner Chase?

Not for me.

I will uh if there's any other questions or comments from other commissioners.

Thank you.

Uh questions.

Commissioners to my left.

Commissioners to my right.

Yes, Commissioner Hina Hosa.

Uh a couple of questions.

Number one, are you gonna make any modification?

I mean, parking, I know it's by appointment, so I'm assuming they'll just park in the driveway.

Is that how you Yeah, actually the entire back area, it's um it's gravel, so it's there's plenty of space to park.

Okay, and how do I use it?

Not in the eyes.

That's all we ask.

Just right up there.

Okay.

Uh and then push the button.

There, so this whole back area is uh gravel as well as like the driveway right here.

So uh that area right there accommodates a good like three cars at a time, and um that would be our parking space.

We wouldn't have anybody like park here.

We would have like a rear parking and would accommodate the clients back there.

Okay, and I know the area will.

Uh I'm assuming would you you wouldn't allow for any parking on the street?

I mean you can, but I mean it's it gets busy, especially with those via buses that pass by right there at certain times.

Yeah, I mean I I wouldn't like to park on the on the street myself, so I wouldn't I wouldn't allow clients to do it either.

I would have a um like a sign stating.

Gotcha.

And remind me this is gonna be your business.

Yes.

Okay.

And I I've I haven't heard in in my short time here on on the commission uh zoning commission where we're trying to extend your hours.

Normally is always cutting the hours.

So I would take it.

You don't have to go to five.

I mean, it's your own business.

If you want to do 10 to 12.

Correct, yes.

And I actually do appreciate the fact that that was offered.

So of course, yes.

Thank you.

And the last thing is I glad to see some sort of development by the ATT center.

Excuse me, Frostbank Center, right?

What is it called now?

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Thank you, Commissioner Hinosa.

Any further questions to my right?

All right.

Uh staff, quick question to you.

Looking at the site plan, uh, I'm presuming that there's no new structure and the professional office will be uh concommitant with the building as indicated for residents.

Is that correct?

That is correct.

Okay.

I I also just wanted to kind of add on to the whole um so Commissioner Hinahosa had asked about parking.

Um with parking districts, um, for her to get a CFO, she will have to meet uh parking requirements for a professional office.

So the minimum is one space per 300 square feet, which would be um necessary, and then also to Commissioner Chase's question um about the hours.

There are development constraints for those that for conditional uses within a residential district like this will be uh situation will be, and um it'll it stipulates uh no exterior display or sign except that of a nameplate.

Um also construction features shall be permitted that would um place the structure out of character, so it must stay to uh look like a residence, and then lastly, um business or offer office hours shall not be permitted before 7 a.m.

or after 6 p.m.

And those are the standard items in our code for this situation.

Okay, so let me follow up on that then.

So if no conditions were applied outside of that, seven to six would be the default.

Correct.

So if Commissioner Chase didn't want to apply any limit, it would be seven to six.

Correct.

Do you think I've made my point?

Yes.

Okay.

Very good.

Umisher Chase, any further questions.

No questions.

All right.

Any further questions looking left, seeing none, right seeing none.

Floor is open for a motion and discussion.

Commissioner Chase.

Sure, I'd like to motion um for approval as amended from to RM6 with conditional use for the professional office with office hours from 9 30 to 4 30, 4 30 p.m., sorry.

Very good.

There is a motion for approval as amended with the condition of office hours from 9 30 to 4 30.

Is there a second house?

All right, there's a second by Commissioner Hina Hosa.

Sorry, Commissioner Barros.

Uh discussion to my left.

Discussion to my right.

Um, you've already had your shot.

Um, you know, I I think those hours are fine.

Uh if you want to speak to your council person, they can probably open it back up to the default.

Okay.

But it's entirely up to you.

And that is the end of my comments.

The motion is for approval as amended with the conditions as stated on the record uh by Commissioner Chase.

Second by Commissioner Hinojosa.

Roll call vote, please.

Commissioner Chase.

Yes.

Commissioner Inojosa.

Yes.

Commissioner Kellum?

Yes.

Commissioner Reyes.

Yes.

Commissioner Hui?

Aye.

Commissioner Barros?

Yes.

Commissioner Wetsa?

Yes.

Chair of Samante?

I.

Motion carries.

All right, very good.

Good luck.

Thank you very much.

Six months to go to city council.

All right.

Item number three.

I thought you were saying west side.

Good afternoon.

My name is Adaldo Gomez, zoning senior planner with development services.

Item number three is located at 4211 Boxwood Road, going from R20 residential single family district to R6 CD, residential single family district with a conditional use for two dwelling units.

There were 21 notices sent out, zero in favor, two opposed outside three outside 200 feet, three opposed.

There is no neighborhood association with intern-defeat of the property.

Staff does not find evidence of likely adverse impacts on the neighboring lands in relation to this change of zoning requests.

The proposed use is consistent with the established development pattern of the surrounding area.

Surrounding area properties are so in R20 single family residential district.

The proposed R6 CD residential single family district with a conditional use for two dwelling units is also appropriate.

The applicant is requested to rezone to reply two existing lots into a total of three dwelling properties.

Three dwelling units on the property.

The subject properties is a corner lot that has two sides of voting right away, allowing multiple access points to the property.

Also, the conditional use requires a prescribed site plan that cannot be significantly changed without further public review.

The proposed zoning is also consistent with the goals of the strategic housing implementation plan, which encourages the development of alternative housing types to accommodate the city's growing population at all income levels.

The applicant is here to answer any questions.

All right.

Thank you so much.

If we could have the applicant's representative, please.

Thank you.

Hello, Elizabeth Russell.

I was hired to represent the applicant of the property.

And just for some clarity, there's no requests to build duplexes or apartment complexes.

These are all single family homes.

Initially, the property was divided about right here.

And the intent of the owner who owns both properties is that he wants to keep this dwelling here.

And he wants an opportunity to be able to build another single family home.

And then in the very long-term future, another single family home back here.

And it does sound like there is a lot of, I guess maybe some personal animosity between the neighbors and my client.

But again, we're not here because of any type of violation.

So a lot of the comments were based on these purported violations.

But my client's actually doing things the right way.

So I think there's evidence to the contrary of him actually doing things not the right way.

He's here, he wants to do it the right way.

He just wants to be able to develop his property for better use and also to remove that metal building.

It only really makes sense for him to do that if he's able to develop these two properties.

So he owns a construction company, and that metal building is kind of what houses some of that construction material right now.

And so he's in agreement to do that if he can start and move that somewhere else if he can start making more income off of the property.

That's basically the basis of his request.

All right, thank you, Ms.

Russell.

All right.

Any other public comment?

There are no public speakers.

All right, very good.

Um this is a district three case.

Uh Commissioner Hina Hulsa to you for questions.

Thank you, Chair.

Uh couple of questions uh for once for staff.

Um would they be bounded to the site plan?

Yes.

Okay.

I will state though, hearing from Miss Russell today, because originally we were under the impression that it was R6 CD for two dwelling units per lot.

So that would give a maximum of six units on this property, because again, she it they're wanting to the applicant is wanting to subdivide what was originally two acre or two lots into three lots.

But that is sounds like that is no longer the case that you just want to do three lots and a single family property on each.

Right.

So I actually already clarified that with a radio or radio, right?

Okay.

Um, because we didn't have the site plan yet from the engineer.

So we knew that we wanted to have three dwellings total, and there were two different lots, but we weren't sure how that was going to work because of the concrete slab that was already there, the driveways, et cetera.

So either there was going to be two lots on the I'm sorry, two dwellings on the top or two dwellings on the bottom.

And in my experience, we just ask for everything, and then by the time we get to committee, we're able to curtail that down to what the actual request is.

So I'm sorry for that confusion.

Well, then now I have a clarification.

Well, I was gonna say the the reason why I was asking though is because if we just go for the R6 that would allow the single family residence, you could meet, you could subdivide it, however, that you're meeting R6 uh standards.

So that would not need this site plan.

So you have do you want to ask a question?

Or I can ask a question.

Go ahead, Chair.

All right.

Um given that information, uh, do you want to amend your request to R6?

Yes, if that will be more of a likelihood of passing in committee, absolutely.

I don't think it makes a difference in passing.

It does, however, mean that you would not be bound to a site plan.

You could possibly get a few more units on there.

Um I would say yes, we would amend to R6.

I do think this is the plan that they plan that they are expecting to move forward, but as we all know in construction, sometimes things change.

So if we're not bound by something, obviously that's a better likelihood for my client.

Okay.

So yes.

There we go.

That's what I was looking for.

I'm a lawyer long-winded.

As am I, which is why I asked the following.

All right, uh, Commissioner Hina Holsa, any further questions?

Uh yes.

Uh would you like to rebuttal for any of the voicemails or concerns that the neighbors had?

I think I did address a majority of them.

Majority of them were about um have a request for duplexes or apartment complexes.

That's not the request, and then the rest were complaints about tall grass, which I'm not aware of.

I did not see any issues, and my client did not make me aware of any, but also that we are not here because a violation happened first and we're coming here to fix something.

And so the complaints seem to be that my client didn't do things the right way and oftentimes violated different um city zoning requirements, and that is not my experience.

This client came to me.

We've actually been working on this project for kind of a while.

So at least maybe I think I submitted it over six almost six months ago.

Got you.

And I have one question and then a comment.

So the question is um.

Uh forgot the question I was gonna ask you.

Uh but oh, would you be willing to do well what what outreach has he done or you done with his neighbors?

I'm assuming none.

Okay.

Would you be willing to or he'd be willing to do some outreach?

I mean, I think it's gonna go better if if we get some neighbor neighbor approvals or some di the show of of uh a little more on his side, uh y'all side that you're doing some outreach.

We can if you really feel like that's necessary.

It was my understanding that um because the the staff was going to recommend approval, that's why it didn't really reach out.

You know, we weren't making some type of radical change in the neighborhood.

And I try not to engage in um personal conflict between parties.

If I believe this is something that um is going to be, you know, what affect their property, that's one thing, but none of the complaints really seem to allege anything about affecting their property.

This all seem to be kind of personality conflicts between them.

And I find it not helpful to have an attorney show up at somebody's house to resolve a personal conflict.

Sure, and maybe he he probably needs to do that.

But you know, there is a language barrier.

Um I'm sure he can find somebody or interpretator or I mean sure.

A lot of people have you climbing.

I mean his neighbors now.

Uh my my comment would be, you know, it it seems like a pretty to an outsider maybe a desolate area, you know, it's it's a corner lot, you know, but you got Salala Creek right there.

I mean, if he's in construction and there's gonna be maybe the neighbors are concerned about maybe some spillage or something.

Also, you know, personally that's my route to big loose pizza, right?

Because it that's that's a street that I take for where I live.

Um so it it's an important thoroughfare, even though it doesn't seem very high traffic.

Um but I would suggest, and I'm probably gonna make a motion later, uh to maybe continue this because I really would like to see some sort of outreach for the neighbors.

I understand that if that's what you want us to do, we can do that.

I just kind of wish that that had happened and that request is made before today.

Usually um the committee will tell me, you know, we need more n neighborhood outreach.

I also didn wasn't aware of all of these are seem to be personal issues to be honest with you.

And that's what we're here.

Thank you, Chair.

I'm good.

Thank you, Commissioner Hino Hosa.

Any further questions, Commissioners, to my right?

Yes, Commissioner Reyes.

Question for staff, you recommend approval.

That is correct.

Okay.

Question uh looking at this exhibit here, which of the driveways are existing and which ones are proposed?

The existing driveway is this one right now.

And so the new driveway would be this one and then this one up here in the corner.

Did you consider shared access or cross access?

Or will you is your plan that each lot only have their own access according to this layout?

So we can definitely do shared access.

I do think it typically does work better for each lot to have their own access, and they were able to make that happen, which we aren't always.

So when I can make sure that that's an availability, I do want to make sure that happens.

There's also currently a driveway back here to this metal shed, and I just want to make it clear, he is not doing construction on this project.

He has a construction company and he stored things, but he is not doing construction on the project that would affect the creek whatsoever.

Sorry, thank you.

Thank you.

All right.

Thank you, Commissioner Reyes.

Yeah, we'll come back to you in a second.

Uh any further questions, Commissioners to my right?

Remotely.

Questions?

All right.

Commissioners to my left.

Yes, Commissioner Kellum.

More of a comment, if that's okay, Chair.

No.

No, we're we'll do it.

We'll do it in a second.

We'll get to comment.

Unless you unless you think it's gonna be pertinent to a potential motion.

Oh wait.

All right.

It's up to you.

Oh wait.

All right.

All right, Commissioner Hina Hosa back to you.

Quick question for city staff.

Did the change the podium when it uh to R6 uh did did that affect the city's recommendation at all?

No.

No.

Okay.

All right.

Um, at this point the floor is open for I'm sorry, the floor is to Commissioner Hina Hosa for discussion and potential motion.

Can we open it up to uh I think those are questions?

Absolutely.

Commissioner Kellum, to you for comment.

My comment is uh I I think I second uh Commissioner Hinojosa's desire to get a little bit more input from the neighborhood.

I understand that that very well may be a personal issue.

Um but it seems presumptive.

It may very well be that they don't necessarily want to work with y'all in terms of that, but a little more definitive uh answer, I think would be helpful for me anyway, and so I think I'm gonna back uh Commissioner Hinojosa in whatever his presumptive direction may be.

Very good.

All right, Commissioner Hina Hosa.

I'd like to make a motion to uh continue this uh for the I guess two weeks.

Two weeks would be September second.

All right, there is a motion to continue item number three for two weeks by Commissioner Hina Hosa.

Is there a second?

Second.

There is a second by Commissioner Kellum.

Uh further discussion, commissioners to my right, seeing none remotely.

Seeing none to my left.

Uh I am also in favor of the continuance.

I always, always, always want to see outreach.

We don't have to have it be positive.

We don't even have to have it be successful outreach, but we always want to see it.

Okay.

Um so the motion is for continuance of item number three to September 2nd by Commissioner Hina Hosa with a second by Commissioner Kellum.

Roll call vote, please.

Commissioner Noosa?

Yes.

Commissioner Kellum.

Yes.

Commissioner Reyes?

Yes.

Commissioner Huey.

Aye.

Commissioner Barros?

Yes.

Commissioner Witsett.

Yes.

Commissioner Chase?

Yes.

Chair Bustamante.

Aye.

Motion carries.

Very good.

All right.

We will see you in a couple of weeks, Ms.

Russell.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right.

We are now moving on to item number six, please.

Good afternoon.

My name is Samantha Benavidas, zoning planner with development services.

Item number six is located at 318 Historic Old Highway 90, going from C2 and A commercial non-alcoholic sales district to C2 commercial district with all overlays staying the same.

There were 15 notices mailed, two in favor, zero opposed.

Los Jardines Neighborhood Association is in support.

Outside 200 feet, there are two in favor, zero opposed.

The proposed use is not consistent with the established development pattern of the surrounding area.

Surrounding properties are MF33 multifamily district and C2 and A commercial non-alcoholic sales district.

The existing C2 and A commercial on alcoholic sales district is an appropriate zoning for the property in the surrounding area.

The proposed C2 commercial district is not.

The rezoning is to permit alcohol sales at the existing restaurant on the property.

Given that the restaurant is located within a non-alcoholic sales corridor, which was established by a city council initiated large area rezone in 2011 with the support of the neighborhood.

Staff finds that this request does not align with the recommended land use for the area.

Although there are other uses in proximity that may provide alcohol, such as a market and convenience store, they are non-conforming and not typically seen within any districts.

Staff recommends denial and the applicant is present to answer any questions.

Very good.

If we could have the applicant, please.

And if you would give us your name and address good afternoon.

I'm here representing our clients as as said the desire is to go from C2NA to C2.

Our clients purchased the property or the restaurant about three years ago, and they've sought to do extensive uh remodeling.

They're currently going through an extensive remodeling of the building, desiring to beautify the area, the parking lot, the facade, um, the uh the drive-thru and such.

And after speaking with my clients in discussing the challenges we we had, um the the only desire is to sell uh beer with food, not not alcohol, not liquor.

Um the hours will remain the same.

There's no change in hours.

Um they're open weekdays till 10 p.m., weekends till 11 p.m.

There'll be no bar, there'll be no karaoke, there'll be no live music.

It's gonna be it's gonna continue to be a family-friendly uh restaurant.

Um the husband and wife team, they're present as well.

He's there in the mornings and she's there in the evenings to close.

So and they're there to ensure that the environment is is maintained as a family-friendly environment, that everything is up to par and that uh it's their investment.

Uh it's our livelihood.

So they're gonna continue that family-friendly environment.

Um there'll be no liquor sales, it'll be a food it'll be you'll be able to purchase a beer with the purchase of food, and for enhanced safety measures.

They've also agreed to provide uh uh a law enforcement officer or security officer on the weekends, again with no changes to the hours, no live music, no bar environment, just strictly an option to purchase beer with food.

And that's all right.

Thank you, Mr.

Leah.

Any public comment on this item?

There's no public comment.

All right, this is a district five case, so it is to me for questions.

Uh Mr.

Leal, so they are currently operating in that space.

Yes, sir, they are and and have been for the past three years.

Yes, sir.

Okay.

Um what kind of outreach have you done on this question?

Uh we presented to Los Jardines Neighborhood Association, and we had overwhelming support there.

Um we've also reached out to the neighbors to the local businesses.

There's more commercial around there.

Everybody's been on support.

They all eat there.

Um and they've all asked that having a beer on Fridays with a meal would be great.

They don't have to go to Tau Cabana, that's half a mile, uh half a mile away.

Um so they have to go to Talk Cabana now to get that beer with the food, and they'd love to have it there.

Well, and I know this isn't supposed to be about economics, but uh restaurants are typically low margin endeavors, correct?

Yes, sir.

And so alcohol can make the difference between a restaurant that survives and does not.

Yes, right?

That's correct.

All right.

Very good.

Uh any further questions, Commissioners to my right?

Yes, Commissioner Reyes.

I apologize for not listening very well, but what were the hours?

What was what's the latest you'll stay open?

The latest is still at 11 o'clock on weekends.

Got it.

Thank you.

Okay.

Thank you.

Um, to my right remotely, Commissioner Chase.

To my left.

All right.

Um this is again a district five case, so it is to me for discussion and motion.

Um one, I appreciate staff's recommendation for denial in this case.

I I know exactly where they're coming from.

Uh unfortunately, where they're coming from is 2011.

Uh and that is almost 15 years ago now.

Um, and so I think given the outreach performed by the applicant, given the uh support from the relevant neighborhood association.

I'm going to move and do so move for approval of item number six as submitted.

I'll say that.

All right, Commissioner Bottles is my second.

Uh discussion to my right remotely.

Saying none.

To my left.

I just want to say that thank you for supporting uh small businesses and restaurants.

Uh they're going through some rough times right now.

I can tell you I visited with 20 restaurants on the rear walk, and July sales were down 12 percent.

So this is a a way to save a lot of jobs and a lot of restaurants.

All right, thank you, Commissioner Buttles.

Any further discussion?

Hearing none.

The motion is for approval as submitted for item number six by me with a second by Commissioner Bottos.

Roll call vote, please.

Chair Bustamante?

Aye.

Commissioner Barros?

Yes.

Commissioner Kellum?

Yes.

Commissioner Inoza?

Yes.

Commissioner Reyes?

Yes.

Commissioner Hui?

Aye.

Commissioner Wetsa?

Yes.

Commissioner Chase?

Yes.

Motion carries.

Thank you, Chair.

Thank you.

Congratulations.

All right.

Uh item number 10 is our next item.

Yes.

Good afternoon.

Alex Ratana, zoning planner with development services.

Item number 10 is located at 334 Como Avenue, going from R4 residential single family district to R4 C D residential single family district with the conditional use for a boarding home facility with the no more than eight residents with all overlays staying the same.

There were 38 notices sent out, zero in favor, one opposed within 200 feet.

Coliseum Willow Park Neighborhood Association gave no response and no response from outside the 200 feet.

The existing R4 residential single family district is an appropriate zoning for the property and surrounding area.

The proposed R4 C D residential single family district with the conditional use for boarding home facility with no more than eight residents is also appropriate.

The rezoning is to accommodate the development of a supervised independent living boarding home and extended foster care program.

The subject property has an accessory dwelling in the rear in addition to the primary structure, which can support the increased density and is in close proximity to public transit routes.

The proposal also aligns with the goals of the strategic housing implementation plan, which encourages the development of additional housing stock to accommodate the city's growing population.

Staff recommends approval and the applicant is here to answer any questions.

All right, very good.

If we could have the applicant, please.

And sir, if you would give us your name and address and tell us about your project.

My partner, uh Ms.

Quartermetra here.

He was here with me as well.

And uh we we're uh basically extending an opportunity to kids who are disadvantaged, uh that don't have an opportunity to uh to go out with guidance uh as most individuals who are in a two-parent household uh have an opportunity to go to college and have uh uh uh uh fair shot at transitioning.

So what we provide is an opportunity for the kids.

Kids to be able to come into the program at the age of 18.

They can stay until they're 23 years of years of age.

Uh they have to be in some form of skilled trade labor, uh certified uh uh certificate type of field uh uh uh or is or uh degreed field of expertise or going to college.

Uh we also look forward to uh helping them to have understanding of credit, uh working with their uh mental psyche as far as giving them counseling and those types of things with uh hopes that they could come in uh create job stability, uh find uh solid foundation in the work field, and uh by the age of eight uh twenty-three when they age out of the system, uh preferably we'd be able to put them in a position to be able to have home ownership and uh go into the the field uh with uh just a just a fair uh opportunity to be productive members of society.

So uh any questions that anyone may have in reference to that, you have to apologize.

I don't do a lot of public speaking, but any questions that anyone may have in reference to that, uh I have zero issue with dealing with those uh issues as well.

Uh one thing I would like to say uh we were looking to utilize the uh home for six children initially, and for what I understand as to the conversations that we had with the city uh uh with the current zoning that we uh already have.

We we can uh utilize the R4 with uh up to six uh children uh in the home, but we have it's a is it's currently standing as a four-bedroom, and we also have the uh dwelling in the back.

Um that we're still kind of figuring which which direction we're gonna go with office space.

So we have the ability to have up to eight children uh to be able to maximize and help as many people as possible, obviously.

So the change uh was kind of last minute uh to go from six to eight, and that's the reason that we didn't have an opportunity to reach out to the to the neighbors.

We did uh reach out to the uh the HOA.

Uh unfortunately we didn't uh get get a response by email.

We emailed several times.

All right, thank you, Mr.

Rowles.

You would just maybe stay up front.

No problem.

All right.

Do we have public comment on this item?

We do have public comment, one voicemail and some speakers signed up.

All right.

Uh, ladies and gentlemen who are here to speak.

Did you leave a voicemail?

Nope.

All right.

Let's do the voicemail first and then we'll do the speakers.

Yes, my name is Emma Schuller, and I live at 327.

My mother, Lucy Schuler was the owner.

She passed away in 21.

And now I'm the owner of the home.

I'm calling in the case of D 2025 1070 0171 D B.

In the changing of zoning.

My phone number is 210 973 0555.

I am not in favor of this change.

A lot of my neighbors are renters, so they did not even know about the changes.

This changing will make our changing in our neighborhood.

I do not agree with because I know of several other homes that are changed the zoning.

And these patients are these people have been consistently walking around, knocking on people's doors.

The people are not taken care of, and it just makes a more dangerous situation in the neighborhood.

I also live alone, and I also work in the community.

Thank you.

All right.

If we could please have our first uh speaker.

Patricia Dukes.

Um that's my mom.

Can I speak?

Uh Miss Duke's, do you want to give your time to your daughter?

All right.

What is your name, ma'am?

Okay.

Uh, Miss Dukes is giving her time to Miss Warner.

Miss Warner, you know.

Actually, Miss Warner, you had signed up as well, right?

Sorry, name here, yes.

So she can have four minutes, right?

Uh I just need maybe just 30 seconds.

Well, um, you you will have up to four minutes.

How about that?

Thank you, Miss Warner.

If you would just step up to the microphone, say your name and your address, and tell us what you think.

Uh Alba C.

Warner, and my address is 226 Cardiff, C-A-R-D-I-F-F, on behalf of my mom, Patricia Dukes.

I was raised in the neighborhood, been there for years, and we they have other group homes for elderly.

They're out in the street on gay and far go.

And there's a group home.

I think the address is 355 Fargo.

One of the uh residents that lives there, he's in a wheelchair.

So he's always in the middle of the street.

So when we pass him by, we have to either turn or wait for him.

If you don't stop, he cusses you out, though things at your car.

It's just a lot of homeless people now in our neighborhood, and they do come and knock on the door, ask for food, ask for money, or want to use your cell phone.

Why, I don't know.

So I went to the group home on FAGO and asked for the uh the person that was running the group home.

She said, I don't even want to be bothered with them because they're giving me a headache.

So it's it's really scary.

My mom lives alone.

Her neighbor, Mrs.

Daisy, she she lives with her daughter, and we just have a lot of uh just people just roaming through the neighborhoods, and I understand what the gentleman wants to do, and this is a good thing, but still, is are they gonna be responsible for these children?

Are they gonna, you know, 18 to however old he said, what 16 in 1936?

23.

Yes, ma'am.

I mean, it's a big responsibility, so I I just want to make sure that the elderly in our neighborhood is okay with it, because like I say, they live alone, they old.

I mean, you know, the elderly.

But my concern is if I'm against it because I'm really scared for my mom and the other residents that live in the neighborhood.

All right, thank you, Miss Warner.

You're welcome.

All right, next.

Daisy.

Miss Daisy.

Oh, that's Miss Daisy here, but I don't think she wants to see that.

We can bring you a microphone.

Let's bring her a microphone.

Miss Daisy.

We'll we'll bring you a microphone, ma'am.

And if you will just say your name and your address and and tell us what you think.

There we go.

Go ahead.

Hold the button.

If the lights on, that's okay.

Yeah.

My name is Daisy V.

Lewis, and I live at 338 Como Street.

And I've been living that all my life.

Um matter of fact, I pushed it a lot in 1950.

I had the house bill.

October the 14th, 1954.

So that is my home.

And I like to remain there, living in peace without intruders, because we have enough going on at the moment, you know what I mean.

And so I just for it.

All right, thank you, Mr.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you, ma'am.

All right.

Next up is Amad Holloway.

Holloway?

Mr.

Holloway.

Yes.

Hathaway.

Are you all?

Mr.

Hathaway, thank you.

Hathaway.

I'm sorry.

That's quite all right.

I have hearing problems apparently.

Yes.

Well, I uh um thank you for having us here.

I represent these beautiful ladies right here in the age group they are.

I'm Armand Hathaway.

I'm the president of the Coliseum Willow Park Neighborhood Association.

I've been in that position for almost three years now.

And uh one of the things I wanted to do is compliment these gentlemen with what they have in mind.

But speaking for the people from our community, this is not something that they want.

If my if I may be able to elaborate on this, in the late 40s, thanks to Joe Freeman, the Coliseum was built.

And that's brought on the rodeo.

It brought a migration of people from the west side to the east side, mostly black families.

And these folks lived in the section that was called Coliseum.

Individual homes that were built, like Miss Daisy's.

Late on in 1954, Coliseum Willow Park.

It was the first track homes for black families.

And then that neighborhood, there were doctors, lawyers, preachers, teachers, people that worked at Kelly, people that worked at Joe Freeman, and they began to have more and more families move in that community because of that.

They wanted to be on the east side because it was the new suburban for black families.

And that's always been that way for the past 70 years.

My family has been there for 70 years.

And in fact, Coliseum Wheeler Park is in the middle of planning a celebration of 75 years being in that part of town.

And we're very proud of it.

And uh one of the things that makes it that way is because of these people who were moving there.

I'm not only the businesses, the families, but the businesses, Coca-Cola bottling is there.

Unify cleaning group is there, AlSCO is there because they see some things in that side of town.

But what makes it unique is there's still about approximately 30 to 40 families who are original owners in that neighborhood, and they're their legacy, some of their family members are there.

And after talking with them and re receiving large numbers of calls, they don't want a boarding house there, although I think it may be a good idea, but it needs to be a little more well defined because the folks in our neighborhood are old, they're scared.

There's a lot of things going on.

There's crime there, but it's crime all over the city.

Thank you, Mr.

Hathaway.

I'm sorry that was your time.

Oh, okay.

But we might we might call you back up to ask you some questions.

I have more to tell you.

Uh uh, unfortunately, we have to do that beforehand.

Uh, but but you can if you want to give your time to someone else.

Mr.

Hathaway, I'll call you back up in a second.

Appreciate it.

So we'll we'll take care of it.

Will Covington?

If someone else doesn't.

Uh sorry, what was the last name?

Covington.

Covington.

Yes.

Okay, thank you, sir.

My name is Will Covington.

I'm at uh 574 Como.

And we've been in the neighborhood for uh about 20 years, no more than 20, but going on 25, 20 uh six years.

But my family's been in the neighborhood in that house since the 1950s.

Um like uh what they what uh Mr.

Hathaway said, we don't we don't oppose uh matter of fact, we applaud the efforts of what they're doing for the you know for the young uh people, but our particular our neighborhood, we're we're an older neighborhood.

It's um and and the fabric of it is is changing uh like what they were saying earlier is that we're starting to see more investors that are coming in, people who don't live in the neighborhood buying these homes and putting making them into group homes.

And as these and the group homes that are coming in, the people are uh the people are like they said, they've uh some of them they affect we effectually call them zombies because some of them are on drugs and they walk around and they you know just doing certain things, but they they uh they are nuisances uh uh to some extent to uh to the neighbors, you know, to where they they'll take the water or they'll if if somebody leaves their garage open, you know, that some things come up missing, if the cars are left open, those things are not saying I'm not saying that the people that the that only the people in the group homes are doing that.

We're just saying that the fabric of it is changing.

We're just starting to see more and more investors who aren't in who aren't part of the community doing that.

You know, we would we would like to see the investors invest in their own communities and put the group homes in their communities.

I I don't I don't know where they uh where they live.

Uh you know, I'm not saying anything that I'm not saying that that they don't live in the community, I'm just saying that we have you know neighbors like like them who have to stay next to or you know, next door to you know, people who are in the group homes, and these these uh these particular people that you know we're calling them kids, but they're 18 to 23, they're adults, you know, and and so they're you know they're able to make their own decisions and they can be uh uh so you know so basically what what I'm saying is that we're for the safety of of our of our community and and as an older community, uh I'm in opposed uh to the amendment.

All right, thank you, Mr.

Covington.

Donna Covington.

I like to yield my time to Mr.

Covenant.

Okay.

Sorry, unfortunately, we just can't do that right now.

If you want to come up and talk, but we we'll we'll we'll talk to Mr.

Hathaway maybe a little bit later.

Okay, my name is Donna Covington.

I live at 574 Como, and I oppose the zoning.

All right, thank you so much.

I appreciate the succinctness.

Um that is all for public speakers.

Very good.

Mr.

Riles, you will have a brief rebuttal.

So I would just like to start by saying I do understand the concerns of everyone here.

Um as far as the property goes that we're working on right now, it uh it has been vacant for a very long time.

Uh prior to us getting in and starting the renovations and doing everything to the property, which we're under renovation right now, making sure we're putting getting everything to code and doing things the right way.

Uh both neighbors to my left and my right, I have a decent relationships with both of them.

Uh my neighbor to the left, he's got children.

Uh his kids play.

Uh I've got a big pecan tree in the front.

They pick the pecans and do all of that kind of stuff.

Uh, but there have been several instances where people have come into the home, broken in the windows in the back.

We've had uh my neighbor to the left run uh uh I want to say maybe two or three different times on two or three different occasions, people from going in the back of the home, uh young kids having sex in the house, uh doing drugs, throwing parties, doing all kind of things.

Uh, and he's literally had to ruin them off by gunpoint at one point.

Uh my neighbor to the right, she's also uh uh kept a pretty good eye on the place, and she's uh uh kind of told a few people uh who have been at the house are going into the property uh with it being a as a vacant unit uh to to leave the premises as well.

So as far as the the structure goes itself, it's better to have a uh renovated home that's actually been utilized uh for the purpose of something positive than to have uh the concern that they're actually dealing with, which is having vagrants in the home, people uh doing drugs in the house, people that you really have no idea who they are going in and out of the structure because it's a vacant uh struct structure as it stands.

So uh again, I do uh understand and I empathize with everything that everyone is saying here.

Uh and hopefully, you know, we can find a way to be able to work together and coexist in the neighborhood together to be able to do something positive and allow this structure to be something that uh instead of uh having a negative connotation to it right now, be a pillar of something positive and being able to transition children into uh productive members of society.

Thank you, Mr.

Riles.

All right.

This is a district two case, and so we are going to go initially to uh Commissioner Chase because Commissioner Watson is not present.

Uh Commissioner Chase, questions.

Um yes, I have a question for staff.

Um I believe Mr.

Rouse said that by right he has um the opportunity to house six people um and rezoning gives him the right for eight.

Is that correct?

That is correct.

Okay, thank you.

Any further questions, Commissioner Chase?

I do, but for Mr.

Rouse.

Okay, Mr.

Riles, if you'd come on up again.

And Ms.

Warner, just for your information, the public comment is closed, but I might come ask you a question.

So you don't have to raise your hand.

Thank you.

Yes.

Hello, sir.

Um, I just want to see if you would be open to um, I know you said you didn't really have the chance to engage with your neighbors here, but they came out today and their concerns are valid.

Um I personally am support of what you're doing, the overall operation.

Um I'm a little bit biased.

I've worked with Homeboy Industries out of California, and um, you know, tattoos on the heart is is something that I'm familiar with, and and it's uh it's something that's you know close to my own heart.

So um I in general am in support of your overall mission, but I would really like you to engage with um your neighbors.

Um and because you're you're going for you have the right to house six um you know kids or or young adults.

Um I you know it changing it to eight.

Um that's two more kids that you could possibly um prevent from becoming the kind of people that your current neighbors are opposed to having more of.

Um if we can reach them young, then hopefully, you know, we get them up and into society and good jobs and contributing to society instead of roaming the street as you know, like zombies or you know, drug addicts and stuff like that.

So overall I'm in support.

I just I would like to ask for continuance if the other members are in support of that also to give you time to work with your neighbors, maybe come up with a plan for how you can um engage these children to um give back to the community directly, like right there, um, maybe working with the other home to uh you know get them possibly just you know just some type of um a form of service that goes along with staying at the house because you know if you stay here, we're going to be um involved in our community, and and so hopefully that would impact your neighbors in a way to see that your mission is helping the neighborhood in a positive way.

Yes, ma'am.

Well, anything that we can do to affect the community in a positive capacity, uh obviously we're here for that.

Uh one other thing that I would like to say before I leave, uh a little background for me and my my associate partner.

Um me myself, I was homeless from 05 to 08.

Uh and uh ended up uh going through a really tough transition myself.

I didn't I have my own kids, but so I had I ended up losing my kids, getting full custody of my kids, I raise them as a single father, did all of that.

All of my kids are now college graduates and uh are in really good positions and and and in where they stand.

So I look at these kids as an extension of that myself.

Uh my uh I'm also licensed real estate, mortgage, general contracting.

I'm a real estate broker, I own a real estate investment firm, uh, own a mortgage bank, co-fire lending, and some other things.

So I we we prov we we we believe in working and excellence, and we want to be able to give an opportunity to to these uh kids to to be able to uh uh attain some of those same things.

Uh my partner, Miss Uh Quarter Metry Hughes.

She actually uh adopted four six foster kids, and she's raised those foster kids herself, so she's got a close connectivity to uh dealing with foster children herself.

So we understand the need that's there, uh the void that needs to be filled, and we're just here to do whatever we can do to help.

All right, thank you, Mr.

Rouse.

All right.

Any further, but just you might want to stay up here.

Not too far.

We might have some more questions.

All right.

Uh Commissioner Chase, further questions?

Uh no more questions.

I'll open up to the floor for anybody else to ask questions.

All right.

Uh to my right, questions?

Uh let's go, Commissioner Huey first.

We'll we'll just go straight down the line, apparently.

All right.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Uh, question for staff on their site plan.

Um, how many parking spaces are required?

The um parking spaces are required.

The minimum parking requirement for a boarding home facility um is 0.3 spaces per bed plus one space for for each employee.

So if they have eight residents, um I would imagine so 0.3, that would be 2.4, which would round up to three, and then each additional um an additional space for an employee.

So that'd be four spaces, just about right.

Approximately four, correct.

Thank you.

Uh question for the applicant.

Uh can you help me?

Can you show me where on your site plan do you allocate it to your four parking spaces?

Well, so this is a long driveway here on the side, and you have parking here on the street if if we needed it right here in front of the house.

So for four parking, I mean you could not that we would, but you could probably put four cars here, it goes all the way back.

Then this is a covered area.

There's parking underneath here as well.

Uh then we have parking here off of the street.

Thank you.

All right.

Thank you.

Commissioner Reeves.

Uh question for staff view for a command approval.

That is correct.

Question for the applicant.

Um, all these objections we heard.

Um, I wrote down people knocking on doors, wheelchairs in the middle of the street, zombies.

Can any of those objections be attributed to you and the way you're gonna operate this facility?

So again, uh I don't know if we mentioned it before, but we're also a direct partner with the Department of Family Protective Services.

So these kids are uh coming from the state.

They're they're they're they're regulated that way.

So if if they get in any trouble, anything like that takes place, they'll be immediately removed from the home.

But you're trying to help.

Yeah, but we are here to to help the children, help uh as much as possible.

Now, as far as impact goes, obviously if we've got people roaming the streets and things like that.

I haven't been privy to that, so I don't I can't speak to that myself.

If they see someone in a wheelchair in the street, I would hope that they would assist with getting them out of the street or help them out in any way possible.

I don't know what kind of concerns would need to be addressed when it comes to that, but I mean these are young people who are looking to do better with their lives.

So again, a lot of times they're gonna be in school.

Uh there is close transportation with the buses.

Um we're talking 18 to 23, so majority of them coming from the foster care system will more than likely not have a vehicle.

Uh so public transportation will be a big part of uh how they get around as well.

Thank you.

Yes, sir.

All right, thank you, Commissioner Reals.

Commissioner Hina Hosa.

Uh a couple of questions.

Uh currently the the house is vacant.

Yes.

Okay, so this is a new uh walk me through or help me understand a little bit.

So the uh the Max is eight.

You'll have a couple in each room.

Is there gonna be somebody on staff 24-7 living there?

How does that work?

Yeah, so we'll have it's it's it's supervised independent living, so there is uh staff across uh around the bo around the clock.

Uh so they'll pretty much kind of they'll have the freedom to be able to move, do what they need to do.

We're not a jailhouse system by any means.

This is transitioning kids the same as you would do if you were taking your kids and sending them to a trade school or uh transition them to college, uh giving them an opportunity to get an education, uh making them responsible for themselves and what they do.

Uh obviously staff on on hand to be able to make sure things are done properly and in in an uh uh uh uh the correct manner.

Uh but as far as uh the the staff goes, they're there to make sure that they uh maintain structure, maintain that the the fact that the kids are doing what the that they what they need to do will rather young adults got you and and and these uh individuals can be kicked out of the home?

Yes.

Okay.

Uh what I see is I think there's a communication and education problem here.

Uh I I definitely however uh miss Commissioner Chase wants to to do this.

I think more time communicating, you know, maybe the neighbors still don't want this, that's fine.

But yeah, I I think you need to communicate because they're they're talking about a different sort of uh halfway home where individuals are in wheelchairs and are drunk and are walking around.

I I'm assuming that if if there's a uh if there's a problem with one of the residents, uh Miss um Miss What?

Daisy, Miss Daisy Louis, yeah.

Miss Lewis, excuse me.

Ms.

Lewis, Daisy Lewis can probably knock in the door and talk to the staff members, say, hey, yeah, little Juanito right here has been knocking on my and and and the situation should be addressed.

Yes.

Okay.

Um I I think what you're doing is great, especially for the east side.

You know, my dad grew up on Amanda and uh MLK right there, that's where our grandma lived.

Uh she bought her house in 1952.

But uh I don't know the date.

But anyway, it's it's real important because these individuals I believe will probably be on the street.

There will be the homeless people, but hopefully they want to be there to be maybe they'll live in the east side and buy a home and they're the next part.

But I think communication, communicating with your neighbors, getting that done is very vital here, and hopefully we can work something out.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you, Commissioner Hina Holsa.

To my left questions, bottles?

Commissioner Bottles, excuse me.

Well, I think you'll have answered all the questions I had.

I have three, and and it was it's an industry regulated by the state, I understand.

And the only thing I had confused whether it's presently opened operating for six, but expanding to eight.

So Mr.

Ryles, that's to you, I guess.

Are you currently operating?

No, sir.

We are we're we're currently uh uh under renovation, so it's uh rather large undertaking, and we're funding everything out of our own personal pockets.

Uh so it's uh it's a pretty large investment uh in getting it done.

We're currently under renovation, uh doing uh interior, exterior renovations as well as uh renovation on the rear floor uh an office.

So let me add a couple of comments.

Uh I appreciate the citizens who show up today.

Thank you for coming today.

And I am going to agree with Commissioner Chase that if y'all could sit down for about two weeks and have a good conversation.

Um staff already has an approval for this, and I think it's just communication.

So I I think this is really needed.

I'd rather see kiddos in a foster care than homeless or roaming uh the streets.

So uh I uh I'm in a in a in agreement with Commissioner Chase to uh give it a continuance.

Um so thank you very much.

All right, thank you, Commissioner Bottos.

Left.

No further questions left.

Um all right, thank you, uh Mr.

Riles.

I'm gonna go ahead and Mr.

Hathaway, I'm gonna give you a little more time.

Just asking if there's anything else you want to say at this point.

Yes, I appreciate that.

Thank you very much.

I uh I'm a little confused.

He's talking about little kids, and he talked about 18 to 23, which one is it?

And uh as it I never received any information except about this hearing until last week.

Uh he mentioned that the HOA I'm wearing we are neighborhood community or association.

We own I received a letter about this meeting, but nothing about what was going on with his activity.

If we've been here as long as we have, and he wants to do what he wants to do, he needs to be, as he said, there needs to be more communication.

You know, if we're wrong and saying no, is what we stand for, no, he needs to try to convince us because we're the ones in the community, and we've been there years and years and years.

Uh, as I was trying to tell you a little earlier, there are businesses that are looking at this part of town who could be helpful to him if he needed them.

But we're concerned about the seniors and some of the legacy people who are still there with their families.

And we just we we our first response is to say no until we hear something from them, and they need to be a little bit more clear.

I uh commend them on what they're trying to do.

But we've been there, we've been meeting the Coliseum Wheeler Park Association has been together since the 60s, and they've only worked with both young people and mostly seniors, and we just didn't hear that.

We heard about kids, then adults, which one is it?

If you're gonna have four people in the house, and where is the supervisor going to be?

And which ones you're gonna have the little kids or you're gonna have the older ones, hasn't been clear.

So some communication needs to be done, in my opinion.

That's all I got to say.

Thank you so much, Mr.

Hathaway.

Ms.

Warner, you had one comment as well.

I'll give you a brief time.

Come on up.

Um I just want to reply that he said his neighbors to the left and to the right of him.

Well, this neighbor is right next door to the home, and she didn't even know anything about it.

So how can he say his his neighbors here and here?

He has a uh a relationship with them, but Miss Lewis is right next door to the home that he's trying to turn into a boarding home.

So thank you, Miss Warner.

All right.

Uh I think that's all my questions.

Any further questions to my right?

Uh to my left.

Ms.

Chase, uh, Commissioner Chase, excuse me.

Uh all right.

Well, Commissioner Chase, it's now up to you for discussion and potential motion.

Uh yes, I would like to motion to um continue this for this September 2nd.

And in the meantime, if Mr.

Rouse would meet with his neighbors um and kind of go over their concerns and show how um you know he's willing to ensure their safety and ensure that the um kids that are young adults um are working in a way in the neighborhood to to be positive members, um, even if that means service to you know bring the elderly like a meals on wheels, they have to volunteer some way if if he's willing to do that.

All right, thank you, Commissioner Chase.

There is a motion for continuance to September 2nd.

Is there a second?

I'll take it then.

All right, Commissioner Bottos is the second uh discussion.

Commissioners to my right.

Yes, Commissioner Huey.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um I agree with commit uh Commissioner Chase that uh communications is the key here, and I see and I respect the uh the elderly residents that currently live in that uh area, but I also see that uh when Commissioner Chase was really thinking outside of box about how do you integrate you know younger folks into an older neighborhood.

I believe, I believe there is a solution there.

I believe that when you have that communications that you could that the young folks can contribute to your neighborhood.

So again, I I commend uh the neighbors for coming out and for the applicant to uh to come today, but I would really encourage you guys to speak to each other, meet and discuss.

Thank you very much.

All right, thank you, Commissioner.

To my right uh discussion.

Yes, Commissioner Hina Hosa.

Yes, I'd like to also thank the neighbors for coming out because uh the city had uh basically have approved this.

So if you guys had not come out and talked, this would have been a done deal.

So hopefully there's communication between everyone, everyone's agree, everyone sees uh positive, or if not, come back in two weeks and we'll we'll we'll cross that bridge.

But hopefully there's a lot of discussion, but thank you.

If you ever think your voice is not important, it is because it it it's gonna open up for more dialogue.

Thank you very much.

Yes, Commissioner Reyes.

Just very quick.

Uh I'm gonna I'm gonna also echo about the age group, the age difference, but these young adults need mentors.

They need positive influences, and I think the community, the existing community, can offer that, can offer that wisdom, that mentorship that they probably really really need in their lives.

All right, thank you, Commissioner Rez.

To my left discussion.

Seeing none.

All right.

Unfortunately, I'm not gonna be long-winded.

Um, but that's par for the course.

Um, you know, I think there is a good opportunity here, as other people have mentioned.

And you know, I'm familiar with the neighborhood.

I grew up with the many Dr.

Hilliards.

Uh you grew up going at times to Second Baptist Church right there.

Um, you know, the Carver Library is right there.

I think, you know, in many ways, this is a really good uh spot for what Mr.

Ralles wants to do.

However, the neighborhood concerns are significant.

And so Mr.

Ralls, I think I saw you doing this, and I want to encourage you to continue to do it.

Be that point of contact, right?

You and Miss Hughes, each of you.

So if there are concerns from Ms.

Lewis, Miss Warner and her mother, um, Mr.

Covington and Miss Covington, that you are their point of contact.

Because one great concern that I heard, and and one that I think really does resonate with myself, if not other members of this board, is you know, these faceless investors, these people who come in and buy homes and then disappear.

And so if you're that point of contact and you have these kids coming out of foster care, and I used to represent kids and parents in the child protective services cases, um, but you can be that point of contact.

I think that will really help.

Uh, you know, and for the neighbors, I just want to be super clear about one thing.

Mr.

Rowles has as of right today the ability to bring in six beds.

Um, and so you know, that's just the way the zoning system is right now.

He's asking for two more.

Um, you know, I think he's right.

There's probably not a great deal of parking.

Uh but Mr.

Rouse, for your information, off street like on the street parking doesn't count.

It has to those four units have those four spaces of parking have to be on the property.

Um but in any event, you know, I'm supporting the the um continuance to September 2nd because you know I think there is an opportunity here that we can reach agreement that we can have the kind of communication that I think all of my fellow commissioners would like to see, and that we can come up with a solution that's good for the neighborhood, good for Mr.

Riles and Ms.

Hughes, and good for the 18 to 23 year olds, they want to help.

So that being said, the motion is for continue continuance to September 2nd by Commissioner Chase with a second by Commissioner Bottles.

Roll call vote.

Commissioner Chase Yes.

Commissioner Barros?

Yes, Commissioner Kellum?

Yes.

Commissioner Hinoza?

Yes.

Commissioner Reyes?

Yes.

Commissioner Huey?

Aye.

Commissioner Witzett.

Yes.

Chair Bustamante?

I.

Thank you so much.

Thank you all for your time.

I appreciate your input.

Um, and we'll see you in two weeks or maybe not.

All right.

Is there any other items to be heard today?

No zoning items, but I can give a director's report.

Uh well, we need to do minutes first, right?

Let's do the minutes.

All right.

I just want to make sure there were no other items.

All right.

Uh all right.

The next item on our agenda is approval of the minutes for the uh what is this to the 5th, August 5th meeting?

That's correct.

Any other any corrections, comments, changes, things of that nature.

Seeing none, is there a motion?

Mr.

Chair, yes.

I move to accept the minutes.

All right.

There is a motion for approval of the minutes as submitted.

Is there a second?

All right.

Motion for approval by Commissioner Huey, second by Commissioner Bottos.

And we'll do this by acclamation.

All those in favor of approval say aye.

Aye.

All those opposed, same sign.

All right.

Minutes are approved.

Director's report, do not steal my thunder.

Sorry.

Um I just wanted to notify everybody that in case you weren't aware that they created a new department uh for capital budget projects, and that uh Michael Shannon, our director, is was requested to become the director for that new department.

So he is going to be leaving DSD almost immediately.

Um he's still going to be around, but uh for the meantime, starting very quickly, he'll be with the Capitol projects.

That means that um our deputy director, Amin Tomaz, is now going to be promoted to director.

And our lovely assistant director, Miss Melissa Ramirez, she has also been promoted to deputy director.

So she is going to be overseeing the field services and no longer will be overseeing land development.

But we also do have another um great move.

Uh Mr.

Logan Sparrow, he has been promoted to assistant uh director.

So he will be overseeing the land development section.

So you're going to be seeing some changes there, but just wanted to let you all know.

All right, thank you so much, and thank you for not stealing my thunder.

Uh today I am sorry to say uh that Commissioner Reyes will no longer be a member of our commission.

Um I have to say that he has been a pleasure to work with.

He brings a level of expertise that I think we had been missing, uh, and we will miss it again.

Um but uh you know it's been a pleasure having him on the commission.

Uh again, I I just I feel so lucky over the past few years.

The level of people, the caliber of talent that we have on this commission has been impressive, and we've been able to work.

And Commissioner Reyes, you've been a big part of that.

So thank you so much for your service.

I wish you weren't going, uh, but I understand.

So thank you, sir.

I want to thank staff and the my fellow commissioners has been a pleasure.

Thanks.

And I will echo that statement.

Thank you, Commissioner Reyes, for your time.

All right.

And so, unless anyone has anything else, the time is 2 33.

This meeting of the City of San Antonio Zoning Commission is adjourned.

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