All right.

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.

If we could please have our Spanish uh translation or interpretation services statement, please.

Good afternoon.

Buenas tardes para que las personas que requieran de Spaniel.

Gracias.

Thank you.

All right.

My name is John Bustamante, and I am the chair of the zoning commission of the City of San Antonio as well as the District 5 zoning commissioner.

The time is 101, and I hereby call this regularly noticed meeting of the City of San Antonio Zoning Commission in the session.

All right.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Marco Barrosa District 9.

Rob Sipes, District 7.

Danny Kellum, District 1.

John Whitzett, District 10.

John Kelly, District 8.

Mia Losef, District 2.

Georgina Hosa, District 3.

ADP Rodriguez, District 4.

Janelle Chase, Mayor's Office.

All right, staff, is a quorum present.

Yes, the quorum is present.

Very good.

Would everyone please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance?

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.

And to the report, which is one nation under God, indivisible liberty and just before starting our meeting, uh, I would like staff to please review the meeting format for the benefit of those in attendance.

Staff, if you would before I begin, please turn your phones on vibrate or turn them off.

The zoning commission is an 11-member body appointed by the city council to make recommendations on zoning cases.

Upon receiving a recommendation from the commission, you will have six months from the date of the commission's recommendation to forward your case to City Council.

If you have any questions regarding this procedure, please contact your case manager.

Staff will begin each case with a short presentation of the request.

Part of the presentation includes a map that shows the area to be considered for rezoning and property within 200 feet of the subject property.

Those in support and opposition will be allowed a maximum of two minutes per speaker, and you are not obligated to utilize the maximum time limitation.

You will be informed that the two minutes are up.

For those who would like to give their time to a speaker, that speaker will be allowed a maximum of two people giving their time for a total of six minutes.

Those giving up their time must be present and signed in to speak, and to please announce that when that speaker is going up to the podium that you are yielding their time, you're yielding your time to them.

Thank you so much.

Staff, we have an overflow room at this time.

Is that correct?

Correct.

Um they do have the Tobin room for folks to sit in.

It is a live uh a live feed.

Uh and we do have a few seats up here.

One, two, three, I see, maybe four.

Uh I can sit on the floor if I no, I mean you can go to the overflow room, but I think once we get through the first part, we can bring people in.

So we'll we'll make sure everyone's uh accommodated who needs to be accommodated.

But uh I think especially for the woman standing right now, I think if we could get her in that seat, that would be great.

Ma'am.

If you just come sit up right up here.

All right.

Because I think some people will leave once we get through the consent agenda and we can go from there.

Uh as you can see, ladies and gentlemen, we have a great deal of public interest.

Uh I presume you're all here for one of my cases.

No.

Anyone?

No.

No, you're not.

All right.

Um no, we do have a large area rezoning that has a great deal of public interest.

Uh so as a result, I'm gonna reiterate some of what staff just said and let you all know.

Every member of the public will have two minutes to address this commission.

If you do not want to use your time but want someone else to use it, when that person starts to approach the podium to speak, or if your name is called, stand up and say, I want to give my time to Madam X.

Uh and if that's what you want to do, just let it let us know before you start to talk or before that speaker starts to talk, so that we can run this meeting as efficiently as possible.

Additionally, one of my roles as chair under Roberts Rules of Order is to make sure that all comments are germane.

For the most part, I'm not going to limit folks, uh, whether it's commissions, members of the public, commissioners, members of the public, or staff.

Uh that being said, one thing that is off-limits is personal attacks on any member of the public, any individual commissioner, or any member of our staff, and I will give you a warning, and then I will take your time if you continue in that behavior.

Uh we want uh respectful discussion.

We understand that these are important issues to a great number of people, uh, but I want to respect everyone's time and everyone's person.

So we will do that.

All right.

That being said, no.

Uh we're gonna start with any postponed or withdrawn items.

We have one item that was postponed.

Item number one.

Okay.

If you are here for the 1015 Frio City Road case, which is one of my cases, uh, you are free to go about your day.

That case will not be heard today.

You will receive another public notice in the mail when that case is reset for hearing.

So you can you can take off and make your seat available for someone else.

Um as you can see, my cases are the really popular ones.

Um all right, staff.

Can we read the items that are currently on combined hearing number one?

Items on the consent agenda are items two, four, five, seven, nine, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, and twenty.

Okay.

Commissioners, does any commissioner want to pull any of the items listed on the combined or consent hearing at this time?

Looking left, seeing none.

Looking right, seeing none.

Looking remotely.

Looking remotely.

Seeing none.

All right.

Uh staff, if we could please read the items on the combined or consent hearing agenda into the record, please.

All right.

Item number two is a request for a change in zoning from R4 to NC with all overlays to remain the same, located at 302 East Sunshine Drive.

18 notices were mailed, one in favor, zero opposed.

There was no response from Sunshine Estates Neighborhood Association or Jefferson Neighborhood Association.

Outside 200 feet, we received two opposed and 72 in favor.

Item number four is a request for a change in zoning from R6 to PUD MF18 with a reduced perimeter setback of 10 feet with all overlays to remain the same.

Located at 14840 Topper Wine Road, 80 notices were mailed, zero received in favor, seven opposed, and no registered neighborhood association within 200 feet.

Is a request for a change in zoning from R4 to R4 C D with a conditional use for two dwelling units with all overlays to remain the same.

Located at 231 Hemoritage Court.

31 notices were mailed, zero in favor, zero opposed, and no response from Hotwells Mission Reach Neighborhood Association.

Item number seven is a request for a change in zoning from IDZ2 with uses permitted in C2 in one dwelling unit to IDZ2 with uses permitted in C2 and a bar slash tavern with no cover charge, three or more days per week with all overlays to remain the same.

Located at 1421 Austin Street, 23 notices were mailed, zero received in favor, one opposed.

Government Hill Lions Neighborhood Association is in support.

Item number nine is a request and change in zoning from C2 to C3 with all overlays to remain the same.

Located at 203 East Almyra Street, 16 notices mailed, zero in favor, zero opposed.

Turban Hill Community Neighborhood Association is in favor.

Item number 11 is a request for a change in zoning from C2 to C1 C D with a conditional use for motor vehicle sales with all overlays to remain the same.

Located at 1351 Bassi Road, 38 notices were mailed, two in favor, zero opposed, and there was no response from Shearer Hills Ridgeview, North Central Neighborhood Associations in the San Antonio, Texas District 1 Resident Association.

The applicant has submitted an amended site plan for review.

Item number 12 is a request for a change in zoning from C2 to C2 C D with a conditional use for motor vehicle sales with all overlays to remain the same.

Located at 1539 Somerset Road, 16 notices were mailed, one in favor, zero opposed, no response from Cantana Community Neighborhood Association.

Item number 13 is a request for a change in zoning from I2S with a specific use authorization for auto salvage and L to L with all overlays to remain the same.

Located at 8524 New Laredo Highway.

Zero opposed, and there is no registered neighborhood association within 200 feet.

Item number 14 is a request for a change in zoning from R2 and RM4 to C2 with all overlays to remain the same.

Located at 123 and 131 Segine Street.

29 notices were mailed, zero received in favor, zero opposed.

Government Hill Alliance Neighborhood Association is in favor and government hill tomorrow gave no response.

Item number 15 is a request for a change in zoning from MF 33 to R6 C D with a conditional use for a professional office with all overlays to remain the same, located at 321 East Dewey Place.

28 notices were mailed, zero received in favor, zero opposed.

Tobin Hill Community Neighborhood Association is in support, and we did not receive a response from the San Antonio, Texas District 1 resident association.

Item number 16 is a request for a change in zoning from C2 to C2 C D with a conditional use for motor vehicle sales, full service with all overlays to remain the same.

Located at 2155 Chabonot Road, eight notices mailed, zero received in favor, zero opposed.

Via Coronado Neighborhood Association did not re provide a response.

Item number 17 is a request for a change in zoning from C3 and C2 to C2S with a specific use authorization for a car wash with all overlays to remain the same.

Staff recommends approval with the following conditions vehicular ingress, egress to only Collabor Park and Holy Cross Drive and protective screening along the southern perimeter, closest to the single family residences.

Applicant has submitted an amended site plan for review, and they are suggesting the following conditions.

Requesting are submitting a fence height of eight feet, hours of operation from 7 a.m.

to 9 p.m.

No external sound systems and or outdoor live music is permitted, and no ingress egress onto L or Drive.

Item number 20 is a request for a change in zoning from C3NA to R3 with all overlays to remain the same.

Located at 1021 Capitol Avenue, 24 notices mailed, zero in favor, zero opposed.

Beacon Hill Area Neighborhood Association is in favor.

And that is it for the consent items.

And we do have public comments.

We have voicemails and speakers.

If you'd just come up, please.

Yep, right there.

And ma'am, you submitted uh amended site plan for item number 11.

Yes, correct.

And that reflects the parking that you want in this case.

I'm sorry?

That reflects the parking that you want in this case.

Correct.

Okay.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

All right.

Ms.

Weissler.

For item number 17.

You also submitted an amended site plan.

Is that correct?

Yes, sir.

And that reflects the four conditions read on the record by staff today.

Okay.

And those conditions are for the car wash use as well.

Correct.

Hours of operation, fence height up to eight feet for that wall, protective screening on LR, no access on LR, as well as no external sound systems or outdoor live music.

All right.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

All right.

If we could have public comment now.

Do you want voicemails or speakers?

Um let's do speakers.

All right.

First item for item number five.

We have Domingo Sanchez to be followed by Abraham Sanchez.

You're signed up to speak.

Do you want to speak or waive your time?

Okay.

Thank you.

Is that both, Mr.

Sanchez?

Yeah.

Okay, good.

Also, we have for item number four.

Um I have a Mr.

Marlon Sawyer to be followed by Miss Jessica via Lawn.

So, Mr.

Sawyer?

Ms.

Would you like to speak?

Are you present and would you like to speak?

He might be in the other room.

Let's let's double check the breakout.

I'm sorry.

Yeah, the overflow room and uh Miss Via Lone.

Could you call for both, please?

Maybe.

In the meantime, do you want to play voicemails?

Oh.

I think we just missed our window.

Hi, Mr.

Sawyer.

If you would please state your name and your address for the record, and then tell us your thoughts on item number four, please.

My name is Marlon Sawyer.

I'm the uh uh homeowners representative president in uh Green Ridge North.

What is your address, sir?

My address is uh 6431 Ridge Pass.

And uh it seems like uh earlier in the deal you said that there was no uh homeowners association within 200 feet of this.

There is uh we're on uh the uh I guess what would be what the west side of uh Toper Wine.

Okay.

But our one of our main interests here is that uh ingress and ingress into uh into Toperwine.

We have several several areas that are kind of dead areas in trying to get into emerging traffic, and it's it's quite uh congested sometimes and stuff because we can't see what very well.

Not only here uh at uh uh where uh green talk comes in, but further uh further north there on Toperwine and down here by the by the railroad tracks is uh significantly bad.

Uh so you might want to think about uh lights and stuff there.

Uh let's see.

I can't think of uh can't think of anything else offhand that uh we would like to be kept in the loop as to what what uh you guys have decided uh in um uh for the for the traffic for Toper Wine, because obviously it needs to be improved quite a bit and stuff for for the people, especially when you're doubling uh the number of people that are going to be in there.

Okay.

All right, thank you, Mr.

Sawyer.

I'm gonna have staff come find you in a little bit and also have the applicant's representative come find you.

Okay, so you can either go back to the Tobin room, which is where you were, right there, or uh stay here for a little bit and we'll get some people to talk to you.

Okay, thank you.

All right, Miss Vialon.

Okay, I would like that to stop.

Ms.

Vialon, is that you, ma'am?

No?

Okay.

I guess whenever I have a chance, I can speak.

Talk to one of the staff members, they'll they'll see if we can help you out.

Ms.

Vialon, how are you?

Hi, how are you?

If you would please state your name and address for the record.

My name's Jessica Vialon.

Um, my address is 14719 Hillside Ridge.

San Antonio, Texas.

Okay.

Um Jessica.

I am directly affected by the proposed changes at my home's that was my home backs up to the farm.

I bought my home as a single mother a little over ten years ago and chose the home for a couple of reasons, but the main one was the farm.

Sorry, I'm chewing gum.

It's terrible.

My neighborhood was once part of the larger farm and sold off bits at a time and homes developed in the 80s and 90s.

I'm no construction professional, but I don't think it takes one to realize that it was quickly and poorly done.

I realize that foundation problems are common in the area across the state of Texas.

But even the foundation company who repaired mine in 2022 said it was the worst it'd ever seen.

If you are a fan of roller coasters, please drive through the streets of our neighborhood.

Uh the bumps and breaks in the road will cause my modern breaks and years of quick fixes, will be sure to satisfy your thrill-seeking needs.

Um I say these things because I want you to understand that despite the tens of thousands I've spent to repair my home caused by the damage of the shaky ground.

Um I've chosen to stay because of the farm.

I would also like to point out May I finish it's just a oh no, you got another minute.

Okay.

Just as it happened to my home and many others in the neighborhood, those little boxes will crumble.

As much as I wish this was wasn't the case.

I don't see the current residents winning this battle.

My guess is that the hearing is just legal protocol and that the deal is this good as done.

With that said, I'd like the current res residents and homeowners surrounded the farm to be given a chance to voice, um, given a voice when deciding on a the drainage for the so-called plans of the neighborhood, and most importantly, the surrounding tree and fence line.

If I'm going to be forced to lose my view and visits with the cows, I would like to know that my backyard is safe from intruders with easy access to the main road, and that the integrity of my yard is protected by a fence line or wall that will prevent unwanted drainage to my yard, and that my privacy continues to be upheld as upheld as it is now, with zero line of sight into my home.

This includes privacy fencing and maintaining existing trees.

All right, thank you, Miss Biel.

Okay.

Thank you.

We will again have the applicant's representative seek you out as well as the case manager.

Okay.

All right, thank you.

All right, thank you so much.

All right.

Next mails, please.

Well, actually, we have more speakers.

All right.

Um, Miss Sonia Simmons.

So one more was optimistic, huh?

And um she signed up for item number four.

Okay.

Just cut it short.

Please state your name and address and then um Sonia Simmons, 6710, winter patch ride in San Antonio, Texas 7823.

And to cut it short, exactly what she said.

I'm right there, they're right behind me.

Um it costs me over 30,000 on foundation issue because of the soil, and the drainage is off, and it's terrible.

And I know if they do any type of thing back there, it's gonna create more of a hassle for me.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

All right.

Next so that is it for folks signed up to speak on the consent agenda items.

Now we can listen to voicemails.

All right, let's do voicemails.

Yeah, take a road till president of government have line paper associated regarding the zoning zoning case 2025 107 00191 property uh at disposation 1421 Austin Street.

Uh, we are in support of this uh zoning chain.

Uh the owner has been uh coming to our meetings and has fully uh uh explain on what they're planning to do.

We had did have a concern regarding parking, but that problem has been resolved.

They're going to be carrying parking with the uh uh adjournment uh uh owners of the other uh businesses within a complete area block, so they will not be parking on the street.

Anyway, we are in favor of that, and we ask that you uh report uh item number seven for the owner.

Thank you.

Yes, good morning.

This is Rose Hill, uh, president of Dover Mean Hill Line Faber Association.

Uh calling regarding today's zoning case, that's in Vieber 2025, 107, 00214 in District 2.

Uh we're asking that you support item number 14.

Uh the representative and the owner have uh been very good very uh supported and coming to our meeting explaining to what they're going to do, and the community has been favored well.

So please vote yes for item number 14.

Thank you.

All right, my name is Beaver Steag with government tomorrow community organization.

I'm calling about uh 123 and 131 for Game Street.

Although our organization as a whole remains neutral as we cannot speak for everyone.

Uh this is a example of the kind of development that is true in terms of the change.

The property is not only R2 due to the arbitrary rezoning that was just done.

The neighboring properties are R2, across the street is R6, across the flight street.

And this is just two attempts of the difference.

I think um the uh they could consider conditional use or something.

I'm not sure what's intended for this property, but this is just two intensive zoning change and allows uh commercial versus allowing uh 65 units per acre under the new state law.

So this is this is just simply true and tense without a more specific conditional use back here.

My name is Lord Martina's of the vehicle non-association to Santa Fe regarding zoning case uh 218.

Uh we can at the board and we decided in opposition to the zoning case, but we had agreed with conditional use for motor vehicle cell only with the owner, but not full service.

Um indicate that there'll be no painting uh vehicle painting.

Uh then we can go ahead and approve it.

But the conditional use is from motor cells with the owner.

We had agreed with that.

The only thing that I'm worried about is it does not paint cars at that property.

So if he can uh stipulate that there'll be no painting, then we can go ahead and agree and let the zoning case pass.

But otherwise, if he doesn't do that, then we oppose the zoning case as it's written.

Thank you.

Uh again, this is welcome at the end of the vehicle to non neighborhood association.

We did candid support.

Thank you.

Good morning.

My name is Cynthia Walker.

Um I live at 1038 West Summit Avenue, phone number 818, 489, 2599.

And calling a reference to zoning KV 2025 1070223.

Property address is 1021 capital.

I'm calling for Beacon Hill Area Neighborhood Association.

I will read our letter.

Bahamas zoning and urban design committee voted on September 15, 2025.

Did support the applicant's request for a zoning change at 1021 capital from C3NA to R3.

We do this so that the owner will be able to pull permits to complete the improvement to the property, and also as this downsizing will bring the zoning in line with our midtown neighborhood plan, which indicates low density residential for this property.

Thank you.

And that is it for public comment.

Very good.

All right, commissioners, in light of the public comment.

Anyone want to pull any item looking left, seeing none, looking right, seeing none, looking remotely, seeing none.

The floor is now open for a motion.

Mr.

Chair.

I'd like to make a motion.

I move to approve the following items.

Number two, four, five, seven, nine, eleven as amended, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, seventeen as amended, and twenty.

What about sixteen?

And sixteen, thank you.

Thanks.

The chair, I'll say good.

All right.

We have a motion uh for approval of items two, four, five, seven, nine, eleven as amended, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen as amended, and twenty by Commissioner Huey.

Uh second by Commissioner Bottos.

Uh discussion looking left, seeing none, looking right, seeing none, looking remotely, seeing none.

Roll call vote, please.

Commissioner Hewitt.

Aye.

Commissioner Barros?

Yes.

Commissioner Kellum.

Yes.

Commissioner Lose.

Yes.

Commissioner No Josa?

Yes.

Commissioner Pete Rodriguez.

Yes.

Commissioner Sipes?

Yes.

Commissioner Kelly?

Yes.

Commissioner Witsett.

Yes.

Commissioner Chase?

Yes.

Chair Bustamante?

Aye.

Motion carries.

All right.

Very good.

If you are here for any of those items and only those items, you are welcome to go about your day.

You are heading to city council now with a recommendation of approval.

Uh the item has to be heard at City Council within six months.

But you all have a great day.

Take care.

All right.

And for staff's information, that looks like it opened up at least eight seats.

So if depending on the number of people in the Tobin, let's let's bring them in.

All right.

If we can move on now to our first continuance docket.

For our first continuance item.

Item number six is requesting a two-week continuance to the October 21st meeting.

Okay.

Um is there any public comment?

There is no public comment.

Again, one of my cases, so no public comment.

Um this is a district five case.

I move uh to continue item number six to our October 21st, 2025 meeting.

Is there a second?

I'll second that sir.

Okay.

Uh any discussion?

Looking left, seeing none, looking right, seeing none, looking remotely.

All right, the motion is to continue item number six to October 21st, 2025.

Uh roll call vote, please.

I'm gonna try.

Commissioner Bustamante?

Aye.

Commissioner Barrows.

Commissioner Losef.

Yes.

Um Commissioner Kellum.

Yes.

Commit Commissioner Hinehosa?

Yes.

Commissioner Pete Rodriguez?

Yes.

Commissioner Huey.

I.

Commissioner Kelly?

Yes.

Commissioner Sipes?

Yes.

Commissioner Witsett?

Yes.

And that should be.

Oh, Commissioner Chase.

Yes.

Motion moves for continuance for two weeks.

Approved.

Okay, got it.

Should have thought that one through.

All right, does we're going back to you on the next one, though?

All right.

Our next continuance hearing is to the uh November 4th.

Correct.

Item number 22 is requesting a four-week continuance to the November 4th meeting.

All right.

And this is a district 10 case.

Uh Commissioner Woodsett, do you have a motion?

No.

So far.

My motion is to uh follow what has been recommended and uh continue it uh until the uh November uh November 4th until November 4th yes 2025.

All right, is there is there a second?

All right.

There is a motion for continuance to November 4th by Commissioner Woodsett with a second by Commissioner Bottles.

Roll call vote, please.

Commissioner Witsett.

Yes.

Commissioner Bottles.

Commissioner Kellum?

Yes.

Commissioner Losa?

Yes.

Commissioner?

Yes.

Commissioner Pete Rodriguez.

Yes.

Commissioner Huey.

I.

Commissioner Sipes?

Yes.

Commissioner Kelly.

Yes.

Commissioner Chase.

Chair Wistamante?

I.

Motion carries.

All right.

If you are here for either item six or twenty-two, uh, we'll see you in either two or four weeks.

So you all can go enjoy your day and visit us again.

All right.

We are now gonna move on to our individual hearing docket.

Would you call the first item, please?

All right.

The first item is number three, zoning case Z 2025, 107-00157.

Good afternoon.

My name is Ashley Lyell, Senior Planner with Development Services.

Item number three is case number Z 2025-107-00157, large area rezoning, generally bounded by Frostbank Center Drive to the west, the Union Pacific Railroad Tracks to the north, Salado Creek to the east, and Willow Springs Golf Course to the south.

Going from I2, I1 and C2 to L C3, C3 C D with a conditional use for construction contractor facility, C3S with a specific use authorization for machinery tools and construction equipment sales and service, C2, C2 CD with a conditional use for office warehouse flex space for machinery tools and construction equipment sales and service for construction trades contractors for construction contractor facility for recreational vehicle park for a manufactured home slash oversized vehicle sales service or storage for freight depot for plastic vinyl manufacturing or processing for metal products fabrication for gasoline filling station fleet for vocational trade outside storage and training area permitted R5 IDZ2 with uses permitted in C2 and RM6, IDZ2 with uses permitted in MF 25, and IDZ1 with uses permitted in RM6 with all overlays remaining unchanged.

Council District 2 issued a CCR on October 3rd, 2024, and City Council approved a resolution on February 27, 2025, directing the development services department to initiate a large area rezoning generally located within the boundaries of the United Homeowners Neighborhood Association.

The proposed LER aims to align zoning with existing land use, support feature redevelopment, and protect residents from heavy industrial uses.

There is a total of 410 subject properties that are currently zoned, a mixture of I2, heavy industrial, and R5 residential single family district.

Staff is recommending 67 proposed rezoning changes, the majority going from heavy industrial to commercial districts, 11 from heavy industrial to single family or IDZ, and four others from heavy industrial to light industrial.

Staff is proposing 49 plan amendments to the arena district east side community plan, which will go before planning commission tomorrow on October 8th.

The neighborhood association established a task force to work with staff on July 7th.

Staff noticed all property owners within the subject area and held two community meetings in August at the Barbara Jordan Community Center.

The project will go before planning commission on October 8th and tentatively city council on November 6th for final consideration.

Staff posted four signs in various locations within the subject area.

454 notices were mailed, 104 in favor, 19 in opposition, outside of 200 feet, one in favor and one opposed, and the United Homeowners Neighborhood Association and Government Hill Alliance is in support.

Staff recommends approval and there is public comment.

Very good.

Thank you.

Very good.

Thank you.

All right.

Um let's begin with the voicemails.

Let me ask this of the public who was here today.

Did any of y'all leave voicemails?

Anyone?

You did, ma'am?

Would you prefer to have your voicemail played or your or to speak?

I'm gonna go ahead and let the voicemail stand.

Okay, and what is your name, ma'am?

Veronica.

Last name S A C E.

S-A-N-C-E?

Yes.

Okay.

All right.

Veronica.

And I'm gonna say Sance.

If I mispronounce that, I apologize.

Sometimes that's all I can do.

Um I know it's voice of our microfire.

Okay.

So let's pull Mr.

Howell from the voicemails, and he will give us time to Cliff.

Do you know Cliff's last name?

So Daniel.

So Daniel?

Okay.

And he is giving Mr.

Howell is giving us time to Mr.

Siddenel.

Okay.

What's his first name?

What's your first name?

William.

I think you okay.

Anyone else?

Last call.

All right.

Let's begin with the voicemails, please.

I'm calling in reference to case number three.

My name is Beverly.

I go to heart with an eye.

I live at 3806 Willowwood Boulevard in the Willowwood Estate Subdivision.

I'm calling in reference to the rezoning.

And I want to say yes.

Definitely I am in favor of rezoning.

And I'll repeat that I am in favor of rezoning.

Thank you so much.

This is Booth Adam.

3431 Shatto Dry.

Item number three.

Case number is V 2025, 107, 00157.

And I am in favor of the reduced traffic.

We need more reduced traffic.

Because the light industry usually requires lighter transportation.

And generally left noise making our area.

So I am definitely in favor of the hi.

My name is Kato Taylor.

My conversation.

Actually, one two one coming at Texas.

Number three.

I want to say that I am in favor.

My name is Cliff I.

Rezoning.

It doesn't give any number.

Here are the sheet.

Um I am voting yes for in favor of the zoning.

Hello, this is Barry Belaniman from 1302 and Ryan, San Antonio, Texas, 78219.

Calling in reference to the keys with last C digits of 157 or reference item number three.

We would like to re agree that we are in favor of the rezoning.

The industrial of heavy industrial would affect health of our community.

It also is the value of our property.

We do have staff elderly in our community.

We need protection from fact of having heavy industrials in our area.

Thank you.

Again, we are in favor of rezoning.

I reside at 910 North Mittlands Street, apartment 213, San Antonio, Texas, 78202.

Oh my phone number is 210987048.

The last three digits of the case I'm uh calling about is 054.

Um I'm calling in support of the application for a light industrial designation on behalf of the United Homeowners Improvement Association, uh which is inclusive of both the Willow Wood and Metal View North Neighborhoods.

Um we're seeking a designation of light industrial for the area as opposed to heavy industrial designation.

The two residential areas also include one elementary school, Villa Cameron, Flex Park, and then a large apartment complex just off Denver Road.

The negative traffic impact from heavy trucks include high amounts of dust debris and has uh a significant negative impact on residents as well as our represent safety hazards to those who walk or cycle for exercise.

We are the Denver Heights Neighborhood Association, of which I am vice president of Austin Howard Support for the requested designation for the above area on behalf of the United Homeowners Improvement Association.

Hi, good morning.

My name is Fondo Melona President of Palmer Place East Law Neighborhood Association.

And I'm talking in favor of this case.

Thank you.

At 932 Terrell Drive, Burleson, Texas, 7608, and I'm in calling in reference to the property at 3611 Tuscany Drive, San Antonio, Texas.

I am in favor of zoning for that area.

Yes.

Thank you.

Have an outstanding day.

Bye-bye.

Texas 78219 case number two zero two five dash one zero seven zero zero one five seven I am in favor of zoning for that area yes thank you have an outstanding day bye bye call the back I'm voting in favor for the rezoning in Willow Wood of my name is Pastor Dickerson I'd say at 3631 Willowwood and yes I am in safe call back number is 210 a 609614 again in favor or thank you my name is Kelly Lott and I reside at 3523 Willowwood Boulevard and I was just calling because I am yes I'm in favor of rezoning um for no more heavy industrial in our area my number's 210 612153 thank you hello this is Leslie Anthony um on three six four three version drive and I'm calling about case number PA 2025 1160054 um and this is the arena district east side community plan is I just want to let the commission know I would like them to um put this forward um yes that is to continue on the proposed plan amendment changes um proposed here for the United Homeowners Improvement Association area um thank you that is my comment thank you hello my name is Maria Patricia Murray my address is 3402 Chateau Drive San Antonio Texas 78219 I am calling about Prophe Station 054 and uh I am voting for it um reason being is because the traffic there's a lot of uh tractor traders that are driving down our streets the noise um also all the uh people driving fast on our road next to our house this usually happens between uh three and five and then also from age to ten uh there is a lot of uh noise uh after hours where we hear all the um the forklifts reversing uh throughout the night uh the pollution the dust uh the comes up because of all the different warehouses that are working um so thank you bye bye yes my name is Pamela Pleasant my address is 1217 Fontrant San Antonio Texas 78219 my phone number is area 2108820169 and I'm calling to vote yes on the zoning case for the United Homeowners Association and the case number the last three digits are 157 again on voting yes thank you howdy my name is Patrick Von Delwan address 14546 Brookhollow Boulevard San Antonio 78232106017059 calling in regards to United Homeowners Improvement Association large area rezoning cases the 2025 1070157 and PA 2025 1160054 request a strategic pause on the down zone for this case it's been too much too fast and without enough information there's a lack of clarity a lack of full information and disclosure because of the significant value property value that exists for this case this needs to be paused and no action taken at this time but more information greater clarity and greater sharing of information with the public please pause on this down zoning of this of this case thank you very much I would be there audio good morning my name is uh Ray Rashad address 3407 Chateau Drive 378219 phone number 2108948427 I'm referencing item number three in regards to yes in favor of rezoning uh myself I do not want to have more pullings or any type of heavy industrial in this area and I I believe that all the company deserves the same as well also too not to have any pullings of any sorts or any type of machinery or heavy industrial that uh

Phone number 2108948427.

I'm referencing item number three in regards to yes in favor of rezoning.

Myself, I do not want to have any more balloons or any type of heavy industrial in this area.

And I believe that all the company deserves the same as well.

Also too, not to have any pollutants of any sort or any type of machinery or heavy industrial that uh can really make a lot of noise or can really uh back up traffic and so forth.

Uh again, I vote yes in favor of a rezoning.

Thank you.

My name is Regina Williams, 3803 Willowwood Bullet.

I am in favor of a zoning because it would benefit our community.

And it's case number two.

Thank you.

Actually, can we hold that for one second?

Um thank you.

I'm gonna pause for a quick second, maybe let some people come in from Tobin, but I'm also gonna take a quick moment of personal privilege at this time.

Uh Commissioner Barros, uh, a longtime member of this commission is going to have to leave soon.

But this is also his last meeting, and so I want to thank him for his service.

He has been a valuable, perhaps invaluable voice on this commission.

And so thank you so much, sir.

We're gonna miss you greatly, and we really appreciate your service both on this commission and to the city in general.

So thank you.

All right.

Uh you will are we getting people over.

I believe she's asking them to come over.

Yeah.

Okay.

We still have voicemails.

Yeah.

I think we still have 13 on my account.

Yep.

So let's continue with the voicemails.

This is Robert Burkins call it.

I want to say yes.

Uh in favor of rezoning 3630 to Stanny Road.

T-U-S-C-A-N-Y.

Uh, my name is Rose D.

Stockman.

I'm at 3318 Willowwood Boulevard.

My phone number is 2107232926.

I'm calling on item number three.

Um, I am in favor of rezoning.

Yes, good morning.

This is Rose Hill, uh, and I'm the co co-founder and the owner of the DQ Prance Round Cable, which consists of 30 neighbors in District 2.

I'm calling this morning regarding zoning K 2025-107-00157.

Uh, this uh in district two.

I'm calling to let you know that we are the neighborhood social of item three.

We hope that the zoning commissioner will commissioners will vote yes in favor of item three.

Uh, we'd like to that community would like to keep it pollution free and also any future environmental issues that could arise.

So please vote yes for item three.

Thank you so much.

Have a great day.

Yes, my name is Rose Samuel 1330 Fun Tanger here in San Antonio, Texas, and HIA in the neighborhood of Sunday San Vita at uh one familiar today and tomorrow I will not be able to attend this meeting.

But I am saying I'm in favor of rezoning.

Okay.

I am in favor of rezoning.

Like 1335.

San Antonio Texas.

All right.

I'm gonna say that's the end of that message.

Neighbor at 3244 Chateau Drive in the Willow Wood Estates neighborhood.

Any Sarah Olivades.

I'm calling to voice uh that I am in favor and in support of the rezoning that's um going through this case right now.

Um thank you so much.

My name is Chanel Jones.

I'm calling about the rezoning in the UHIA neighborhood.

Uh my address is 3522 Willowwood Boulevard, San Antonio, Texas, 78219.

My phone number 2106181107.

I am calling about the rezoning with the industrial companies coming into the neighborhood.

I'm worried about my health and my children's health.

We do not deserve to have pollutants in our air as we come in and out of our home.

And then that air that's right outside of our home comes into our home.

So that would poison us outside and inside of our residences.

We already live right by the train track, so we already have enough industrial bias.

Um I definitely believe that there's plenty of space in Bear County and outside of Bear County for these companies to find land and to build their land.

And we should not be having to live right next to big industrial companies.

So you stay in the community where you're going to go and you live.

We drive out to go to your job.

You don't want any pollutants to be run outside of your house, poisoning our families, and making it unbearable for us to enjoy ourselves right where we live.

Hello, my name is Shirlita Plummer.

I'm calling in regards to regard to case number, hashtag PAP-2025, Python 116054.

I am calling in support of changing the UHIA LAR to light mixed use uh zoning rather than the harmful heavy industrial zoning that we currently have.

Thank you.

My name is Sue Kalberg.

My address is 1003 Freak View Drive 78219.

My phone number is 210825-4550.

I am calling in reference to case number 2025-116054, the large area rezoning plant.

I have been a resident of the area since the late 90s, and my home on Cricky Drive is the in the boundary area that is under consideration.

As somebody who participated in the original arena area eastside community plan process, I'm glad that this proposal is moving forward because I believe protecting the legacy neighborhood and the valuable neighbors in the UHIA area is a very worthy goal.

So too, would be enforcing the rules that already exist.

So many of our continuing challenges we face seem to be related to the businesses that don't follow the proper procedures and the city's steadfast habit of not taking any timely and substantive action to protect our people who have been active responsive taxpayers here for decades.

Hi, my name is Pasha Adams, and I reside at 3431 Shanghai Drive.

My phone number is 210-846-7924, and the case number is 157.

And I am in favor of rezoning to light industrials for the mere fat that it causes less pollution.

Light industries typically produce less air, water, and north pollution compared to heavy industries, leading to a healthier environment.

In addition to lowering health risk, residents near light industrial areas face fewer health hazards since heavy industries often involve toxic chemicals and hazardous waste.

Thank you so much.

Good evening.

This is Tony Nelson.

I live at 3626 Willowwood, San Antonio Texas 78219.

That's in the um area near Flitz Park.

And I am in favor of the rezoning of this area that is near us for the simple fact that this is a residential area that has been surrounded by far too many industry.

Um trucking and things like that for far too long.

The fume, the dust, and everything that has caused is really a usage to the area and is a health concern as well.

Um because of all the dust in the air, the awful fumes that are sometimes present.

It really affects us.

This is a very nice area.

So I hope that you all will consider it and rezone the area.

Thank you.

Bye-bye.

This is a concern neighbor, a concerned resident in the area that this uh meeting is in reference of my name is Smith Tony, S-A-N-N-E-R.

I am calling in reference of in favor.

We do not want anything in this area that is going to harm our children.

This is a neighbor.

This is a home for me.

My grandparents bought this home when I was a baby.

I am now 56 years old, and I am currently staying in it now with grandkids.

And I don't want anything in the air that's on the loop and any kind of harmful fumes inside of my grandkids, myself, and any other neighbors.

We want our neighborhood to live just like any other neighborhood at ears.

I think they have nice restaurants and places.

This is not a dump area.

This is not a waste area.

We have to get waste from last time before through our pipes and stuff like that.

These homes are bought.

We are to bought and pay these homes.

Our cows have bought and paid for this home by the sweat of their raw.

And in the name of Jesus by the power of the blood.

I rebuke anything, anybody that's coming against to make this neighborhood a waste, a hazard, and an unsafe place.

Make the right decision.

You're not living in a waste neighborhood where you can't come outside and dream.

If you go outside and bring fresh air, nice beer, nice restaurants, what a fast family wants to in this neighborhood of 3331 wouldn't work for the board.

This is not a dust waste area.

Take that somewhere else.

My name is Veronica Sanse at A N C E telephone number 213 9210.

3091529.

My address is 3654 Burst Side Drive.

D-E-R-S-A-I-L-L-E-S.

Like the palace in France.

I am calling two boys my vote in favor of the rezoning from heavy industrial to light industrial.

I believe the item agenda number is PA2025-116054.

I would like to express my concern for the large trucking company that are in our neighborhood.

Along Belgium, Brussels, Paulson, and Gimmala Road.

The tire company Colon C O L A N they have tires stored outside, visible that are collecting water when it rains to breed mosquitoes, which is not good for our neighborhood.

Fly down Belgium Lane when they're turning off a frost truckway.

Are we in listenable things?

That's that's two minutes.

Is that it?

For a voice must be that is it for item number three.

Yes, and now we'll move on to speakers.

Okay.

Uh once again, ladies and gentlemen.

Just in case.

Sometimes it takes me three times to hear something to actually process it.

So if you want to give your time to someone else, when that person comes up to speak, step up and tell us you want to give them your time.

If you're called before the person you want to give your time to, just let us know to whom you want to give your time.

All right.

All right.

Each speaker will have two minutes up to six minutes.

Uh if two people give someone their time.

First, we have Cliff Sedeno.

And it looks like people may be giving your time.

Giving you time.

So William and Mr.

Mitchell.

Mr.

Mitchell.

Mitchell, what is your first name, sir?

William Mitchell.

The two the two Williams have given their time to Mr.

Celina.

Thank you.

Good afternoon, Commissioners.

My name is Cliff Sidanial 1314 Fontaine Drive.

I stand before you today not just as a resident of Willowwood Estates, but as a voice for hundreds of families in the United Homeowners Improvement Neighborhoods.

Families who have endured 50 years of neglect under heavy industrial zoning.

For over five decades, this community has asked for change.

For decades, they have lived with dust up in the air going into their lungs, trucks tearing up their streets, polluting and threatening health and the children's futures.

We have waited and we have been ignored.

Today we ask you to finally act to correct a long standing wrong.

To oppose this rezoning is to say that these families don't deserve protection.

To oppose this rezoning is to say that racial injustice and environmental abuse and economic neglect are acceptable.

But today, with renewed and innovative leaders, just as you right here today, we have a chance to change that history.

Now, some of the heavy industrial businesses claim to be have been blindsided by this rezoning.

Some have even suggested some sort of conspiracy.

But let's be clear.

They post signs along Belgium Lane, Gembr, Paulson, and Brussels Roads for residents and businesses to attend.

We've gone door to door.

I have personally sent emails for which those have been passed out to several business owners to come to the table and hear some of the concerns that we have.

District 2 has been copied on some of those emails, and I imagine that some of you have asked to see those.

Those businesses, but let's put this on the record.

Those businesses chose not to engage.

They ignored our outreach.

Now they want to slow us down and keep things just as they are and question the integrity of this community's long fight for basic human rights, clean air, clean water, and safe streets.

This is not an anti-business movement.

In fact, we've worked successfully with many partners with the City of San Antonio Stormworks to improve our drainage at Pletts Park, with the San Antonio Rodeo on beautification and shared growth, with Bear County Parks and Recreation, with Res Care facility to support their work for adults with disabilities, and even with the Union Pacific Railroad on beautification projects, even with Starbucks, which have provided meeting space and community support.

We welcome businesses that want to be part of a strong East Side.

But we cannot keep sacrificing our health and future to those who refuse to even come to the sitting table.

The official reason is the arena is outdated and the area is uninteresting.

But we all know that that's just a polite way of saying that they didn't want to be in a location surrounded by industrial yards, truck depots, and blight.

That mistake was made decades ago.

When the Spurs first came to the area, city leaders should have surveyed and rezoned the area to build a thriving entertainment district.

Instead, they left the area to languish as a wasteland of heavy industrial.

Now, the San Antonio Rodeo has a plan to expand into a year-round experience.

A huge opportunity for our city.

But ask yourselves this.

Who will want to visit and stay and spend their money here if the gateway to the venue still looks and feels like an industrial zone.

We can't keep making the same mistakes.

If you want the rodeo to thrive just like we do year-round, we have to make the area a place where people want to be safe, clean, and welcoming.

And that begins with rezoning.

This rezoning is not about shutting down businesses or driving them away.

Current operators can continue under conditional use status while the policy prevents new and heavy industrial uses from harming this community's future.

Most importantly, rezoning lays the foundation for new investments, better jobs, clean air, and safe residential development and a more vibrant east side economy.

We have an extraordinary opportunity right now to transform this corridor into a landmark just like the Dallas Fort Worth did with their stock show and rodeo.

The windows open, but it's not going to be open forever.

Commissioners, this community has been patient for decades.

We've organized, documented, and advocated in the open.

Don't let misinformation or last minute complaints drown out the lived experience that these residents have carried this burden for far too long.

The time is now.

But the rodeo's vision is proof to what we can achieve if we act boldly.

Vote to approve the large area rezoning.

Help us turn decades of neglect into decades of opportunity.

Let us finally build a cleaner, safer, strong ESA that not just our families, but every future investment and for the future of this city.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Sudanese.

Ladies and gentlemen, I I appreciate y'all uh appreciating a good speech, but let's try to keep uh public acclamation to a minimum so we can respect everyone's time in this process.

Can we have our next speaker, please?

Next we have Jesse Medellas.

Can I was anybody giving you their time?

Yes, ma'am, your name?

I'm sorry, Mr.

Medellis.

Can you tell yeah?

So Miss Mitchell's gonna give me her time, and I have like a um who else?

Miss Towns.

Okay, uh, Miss Mitchell, what is your first name?

Sherilyn.

Okay, and Miss Towns?

Beverly Towns.

Beverly Towns and Sherilyn Mitchell.

All right.

And your your name?

Justin Nadales from 1318 Fontaine.

Okay, six minutes.

Um hold on.

Before you'll start my time.

So there's gonna be a video playing in the background.

So everything we're saying, you're seeing it with your own eyes.

It's on mute.

Okay.

On this minutes.

Okay.

Within reason.

Okay.

Hi, so basically, um.

Let's mute it though.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Um, you'll be able to see theirs.

And we have it, we have it.

Okay, perfect.

And y'all see the dust, y'all see the porter parties, the poop, and y'all see all over our streets, y'all see all that.

Okay.

History class about um this um area.

So, back in the day of segregation, racism, and all that stuff.

Um, they wanted a place where they're gonna put the elite black African American communities.

There's many articles, um, and it was supposed to be for the elite.

Um, you guys have all this in front of y'all, and um, so they wanted a place for it.

Where are we gonna put the blacks?

Let's throw them in heavy industrial.

There was no industrial there at that time.

None.

It was just them.

Because Plets wanted to create justice for them, create an area, a good living for them, and all this, y'all could either Google it, y'all could see it, all this is on record.

So basically, none of a lot of this stuff wasn't happening because heavy industrials started coming in the area.

Then there were some complaints of areas around there saying, but the blacks and the Mexicans are gonna leak into our area.

So, what are we gonna do?

So then they created all this.

You guys have a copy of this.

They created, I'm just gonna read you a piece.

It says, said property shall never be sold or leased to Negroes or Mexicans.

This is it's still there.

Today, guys, is it could be a beautiful day.

Today, you guys are not just gonna say yes to the rezoning, you guys are gonna make history.

This area, this should have never happened.

That's why the government, and of course, created under civil rights law, which is environmental justice.

It provides a powerful tool for environmental justice, advocates to hold government corporations accountable for environmental harms, ensuring that the benefits of healthy environments are equally shared.

Okay, what has happened to us?

All this is on the record.

We have poop all over our streets.

The Porter parties didn't want to listen to y'all, didn't want to listen to our amazing councilman that also has been out there, our commissioner that's seen it with their own eyes.

They didn't care.

So, what did a lot of these businesses do?

They called in favors.

Hey, we're still gonna be running, even though the city went there, cited them, did all this stuff, they were not gonna listen to the law.

Nothing supersedes the law.

What happened?

We stuck together, the people united will never be defeated.

La gente unida jamás era vencida, and we won because the commission saw that that was not okay.

So basically, implications of government and corporations.

All this is in the law.

We're just asking for basic human rights.

We're not anti-businesses.

We we have the best relationship with the rodeo.

They're telling us what they want, what failed us from the past, what is the wrong thing.

We don't want to cry about the past, but we gotta fix the past.

And by fixing it is fixing situations like this.

You guys have a record of all this.

Umplications of government and corporations.

The recognition of these rights created a legal foundation for individuals and communities.

So what this means, I read the whole thing.

We're coming to you guys, lady letting you guys to police enforce the law.

To seek justice, it means that governments have legal enforceable obligations to protect these rights and environmentally disruptive policies, can be a challenge under human rights legislation.

It is also influenced in the businesses and human rights agenda.

Basically, this happens a lot to minority communities.

So now this is a landmark.

This we got veterans, we got soldiers, we got doctors.

It's the most eclectic community.

Today, guys, it is in your hands to either fix the problem or be the problem.

A little bit about me as Jesse Medeles.

I am the grandson of uh the biggest South Texas civil rights leader, uh Manuel Medeles.

There's books, there's a TV series been written about them and all that stuff.

I also advocate around the world.

If you look up Jesse Medales, I've been with half a million people for civil rights and all that.

This is in my DNA.

I just never thought I would have to fight it in my own house.

Guys, please do the right thing, basic human rights.

We're not anti-businesses.

These people, well, I'm gonna reword it to keep it positive.

A lot of these businesses did buildings illegally, um, worked without the right to even run a business.

This rezoning is gonna bring them into compliance.

A lot of the businesses are gonna benefit off this.

We're just saying if y'all don't want to smell shit for the holidays, we don't want to either.

If y'all don't want to have dust on your food for the holidays, we don't want that either.

Thank you guys so much.

Thank you, Mr.

Mills.

Next we have next we have uh Miss Easter Barbara or Barbara Easter.

And she is to be followed by Miss Dolores Williams.

All right, Miss Easter, if you would, just your name and your address, and you'll have two minutes.

Yes, my name is Barbara Esther, 1326 Fontaine drive.

Uh I'm coming in uh support of rezoning through the United Home Owners Association as someone who's uh in remission from cancer, you know.

It is very imperative, you know, that we have clean air, our families, you know.

Uh our community is a lovely community, and uh, we're just asking for basic rights.

Thank you.

Thank you, Ms.

Hester.

Miss Delores Williams.

Ms.

Williams.

And Miss Williams will be followed by Mr.

Tom Rhod.

Folks, if y'all don't want to come up come up to the podium, y'all don't have to.

We can get you a microphone.

Okay.

If you want to sit or you're unable to stand, please just let us know and we'll we'll bring some.

Yes, ma'am.

I am Dolores Williams, known as Mama D.

But I've been living in the 3435 Belgium Lane for 61 years.

I was 30 when I moved there, and I'm now 92.

But what I want to say is that I am in favor of the rezoning.

I have experienced the dust that we're getting now.

But before that, I experienced the tie.

The party.

I experienced the gas trucks that was crossed from my house where I could smell the gas.

And I did get in touch with Chief Hood, and they sent somebody up.

So I'm gonna give the rest of my time, but I am in favor of rez rezoning.

Oh, yes.

Thank you, Mr.

Thank you.

Next, to be followed by Mr.

Tom Rhode.

And after Mr.

Rhode, it'll be Miss Uh Mr.

Weston Martinez.

All right.

All right.

Mr.

Rhode, you will have four minutes.

Yes, that is correct.

Tom Roadie, I live at 200 Redwood.

I also have a business at 608 Gimbler Road.

I'm the Vice President of Almo KOA Campgrounds.

We're the largest property owner in the area.

We have 38 acres.

We've been there since 1967.

My dad and I and my two uncles built this campground for Hemisphere in 1968.

And uh I think we've been a pretty good neighbor for the past 60 some odd years.

We are a we're not a campground.

We're a recreational vehicle park with camping cabins.

And if I ask you what a camping cabin is, you're probably not going to know.

But it's not a mobile home.

It's not an RV.

It's a camping cabin, and we can put wheels on them and move them out in case of property floods.

And then we can't find any designation for camping cabins in their city zoning laws.

So we don't think the C2, we even with special use of an RV park fits us.

We believe we fit under what today would be uh manufactured housing or a manufacture housing park with special use for RVs.

That would give us the flexibility.

Some future city persons might say, oh, you're in noncompliance.

You have cabins that are lodging or living units, and we're going to say we've been here 60 years and we've had camping cabins for the last 60 years.

And uh, you know, it just doesn't fit our particular business.

The the unintended consequences of you putting C2 zoning on us is that we could go in and reclaim some of our floodplain and build 2,000 affordable apartments.

I mean, think about this.

We back up to neighbors' homes under the new state law, which these cities can't really get in there and try to block.

We can put 65 affordable housing units per acre on 38 acres, that's 2,475 units.

Looking at the whole area, you know, I and I know this was all started before the state put in their C2 allow apartment deals.

If you took 400 acres of of nuke sea zoning at 6,500 units per acre, you're talking about 15, 20,000 apartments.

What unintended circumstances or results would happen to District 2?

I mean, they don't know what they're pushing for.

I've been a real estate developer here since the 70s.

I have uh with my father, we had bought most of the Salato Creek up to Fort Sam, and we've turned around and donated it to the city.

My dad was former mayor, Al Rhode, back in 1975 under Lala Cockrel.

We uh we got the city to name the donation we gave the Al Roadie Nature Preserve.

It's between 35 and Fort Sam.

We also owned all the flood floodplain back to Willows Springs.

My dad was head of the Slato Creek uh Park Association and devised with Howard Peak the walkway, which we granted to the city along our Creek clan.

We've been a very good neighbor.

I I got caught totally unaware of what was going on.

I don't live in the immediate area, so but we've had two months to really get in there and research it.

We still don't know what's going to happen with this new state law.

But we would like to either have you take us out of this rezoning request and leave us alone, or allow us an MH or MHP classification with R V use, special use, conditional use, and be done with it.

I could take a five-acre warehouse.

Thank you, Mr.

Tear it down and that is your time.

Next, please.

Next we have Weston Martinez.

And he is to be followed by Miss Shirley Allen.

I was about to say good morning, but I will not.

I'm Weston Martinez and I'm 14546 Brook Hollow.

Um I spoke before you guys last year, whenever the city of San Antonio was trying to rezone uh almost 40,000 acres around the Toyota plant and put them steal all of the rights of those individuals and put them into a zoning process where they could condemn them and sell them at a much lower value.

And I thank you for the technical job that each one of y'all do.

I know the general public is not maybe aware of all of your professional background and why you were selected to oversee these types of situations.

So if I can have the clock when the time starts, please.

Oh my goodness.

Yeah, it has started, so don't let the clock run.

Keep talking.

Sounds good.

So very simply, this particular location, United Homeowners Association number one, isn't actually a violation of its 1972 charter because it actually is not supposed to get involved in politics.

And if you look at the item right there, this is a political thing, which is called zoning.

So I appreciate the people that are here today.

But just like uh anything, we want the truth to be to be out there so that people know what's going on.

Texas law prohibits corporations from acting.

Can I see the clock so I know what time I have?

Texas law prohibits corporations from acting beyond their chartered powers.

So everybody that's here has the potential of being sued, not only the city, but also the members.

And when we look at that precedent, we can also look at the precedent of removing the rail yard, removing the airport, removing those houses that are in the flight path.

So when we look at this from a pragmatic aspect, we're very thankful for the people that are here and the redlining that was talked about.

You know, as real estate commissioner for the state of Texas, redlining laws in in the United States of America, they were brought here because of what happened around San Antonio.

But if you do this, you're actually redlining against business owners and against those people.

And if they do it, if you do it to them, somebody can back can come back and take all of your single family zoning, red line you, and make you into multifamily housing and lose your homes as well.

Thank you for your time.

Thank you, Mr.

Martinez.

Sir, as I said three times, you have to do it before he starts speaking.

So thank you, Mr.

Martin.

Thank you, Mr.

Mr.

Monte.

Next we have Shirley Allen.

And she is to be um followed by Daisy Ransom.

Uh time again.

They have given it to me.

Oh, she's already given it.

Um Ms.

Allen.

Or maybe she did it, but if do you do you want to give your time to someone else?

Because I don't think you did.

I think I think Miss Mitchell and I go on.

Nope, nope, nope.

Sorry.

You get six and you're out.

It's the same rule for everyone.

Uh who's next?

Daisy Ransom.

Ms.

Ransom.

Come on come on up here then.

Come on up to the podium, ma'am.

And if you would just say your name and your address.

I'm Daisy Ransom, and I'm at 3646 Versailles.

I've been here in San Antonio for and where I live now over about 60 years.

And I am in favor of rezoning.

And I and I just want to say I uh everything that has been said is it's willing to truth.

So I just endorse everything that's been said.

And I appreciate everybody that came out to let you all know what the truth is.

Thank you for your time.

Thank you, Ms.

Ransom.

Next we have Patrick Christensen.

And he is to be followed by um Tad Ingelhart.

Good afternoon, Commissioners.

Patrick Christensen 315 East Commerce.

I'm here on behalf of Dick Peacock, who has 10 addresses on Paulson and Brussels Street.

I say 10 addresses because it's multiple lots, multiple buildings.

I do want to say that you know none of his businesses were on the videos you saw here today.

He is kind of getting sucked into this.

And the biggest problem for him with this is he understands I2 is probably too intense for smaller warehouses.

It's more of a manufacturing district.

But with the C do C2 CD for warehousing that the city is offering him, every time he gets a new tenant or someone moves out, he's gonna have to rezone his property, which is a difficult process for him and an expensive process.

And the other problem he will have is tenants that that when he gets a vacant space, someone wants to lease the space, they don't want to wait three to four months for him to have to rezone the property.

So what does that do to him?

That puts him out of almost out of business.

That's why we're here today.

Um I think there's a misconception among some of the audience that this rezoning will automatically make everything better and make everyone leave.

They it won't.

Existing businesses have non-conforming rights, they will be there until they decide to leave.

Businesses like Mr.

Peacock's when they leave, he's stuck with having to rezone every single time he gets a new tenant.

That's all I have today.

Thank you.

Next we have Tad Eichelhart to be followed by Ken Brown.

Okay.

Sorry.

All right.

Mr.

Eigelhart, you want six minutes?

Yes.

All right.

Let's see.

Your your name, ma'am.

Ida Jackson Gray.

Uh Ida Jackson Gray.

Yes, ma'am.

Your your name?

Diane Brand.

Diane Ransom.

Okay.

Ready to go?

Are you all related?

The two ransoms?

I don't know.

Well, you all should find out.

All right, Mr.

Egglehart, you will have six minutes.

Sure.

How are you doing?

Okay.

I have uh handed out a document which I pre-writ for this so that you could follow me.

Okay, we are a living area.

We were a living area and farm area.

A little closer.

We were a living area and farm area long before we were a business area and heavy industrial.

I am a landowner and a landlord, and I was raised in this town, and I feel I'm the son of many of these neighborhoods as well as this neighborhood.

We respected the properties next to us.

I have worked all over this town.

Fort Sam, Alamo Hardwood.

I even was at a metal shop on the south of town, but there was a rule we had.

Before we started, we cleaned up the property.

Before we ended, we cleaned whatever we created or whatever waste we had around us.

The issue here has been simply bad neighbors, bad actors who simply don't want to follow the zoning rules or whatever lands they are leasing.

As to a contrary to something here, we were under the Pletz Covenant, which is the early 1962, not under something in 1972, as so said.

And we're still under that Pletz Covenant to be a neighborhood and a commercial area.

We have no problems with the majority of the businesses here.

Our problems are with those you lease to or sublease that don't want to act correctly, that don't want to follow anybody's rules and uh sublet and such things.

I'm a landlord.

I do drive-bys with my property.

I um have properties in the majority of your zones here, and I keep them clean and have no problem with people that follow the rules of the area, and don't pollute.

Simply said, um I'm not going to make too many examples, but I will give these three.

One large property we had to deal with improper sewage, where they were still used using a sewer pit.

Another property, trucking company, decided that they simply can comb and sweep their debris into the major roadway before they enter their property every day.

We have another human waste company who decided that they could simply empty their trucks into our brand new drainage, which we just received for sewage.

Now I have one at the end that I want to make an example of, and I want permission to do this.

I've had to use code compliance against city plots, where they wouldn't maintain or have a decent appearance or allow the neighborhood to clean up the property.

I the very last page of my writ.

We just wrote the city up for not many their own properties.

That's me.

That's what we have to say, sir, and that's what we're here for.

All right, thank you, sir.

Next.

Ken Brown.

All right.

Mr.

Brown.

There you are.

And who's who's next after that?

He is to be followed by Colby Gillary.

Mr.

Giller, if you want to maybe start heading up.

Uh Ken Brown, uh, 100 Northeast 410, suite 1385.

Um, I am actually here today in support of the large area rezoning with some minor changes.

Um I do represent the rodeo.

Uh they worked out a deal.

Uh represent Franklin apartments, they worked out a deal.

Um, and there has been plenty of back and forth with the neighborhood and the councilmember's office.

Um, but mistakes were made.

Historical mistakes were made.

And and things do need to change.

Um I also have a piece of property on Paulson Road, as Mr.

Christianson said.

That property was zoned to I2 in 1957.

Okay.

If I came to you today to seek rezoning for single family next to I2 zoning, you would not give it to me.

Or you shouldn't give it to me.

Nor would the council members support that.

But ours was zoned in 1957.

Willowwood estates was zoned from that I2 to A, which is their single family designation in 1963.

That was a mistake.

That should have never been done.

And as offended as I am about the inappropriateness, uh inappropriateness of I2 in that location, and I am.

It doesn't belong there.

I'm equally disappointed or offended by putting C2 there.

I think if you do ours is a rental space also.

Our lease is up in two months.

If I can't find the needle in the haystack of what they're offering, I either go out of business or I come rezoning every six or nine months, or every time I my my lease is up.

I don't think that empty empty businesses are good for for Paulson Road or the neighborhood.

All right.

Thank you, Mr.

Brown.

Thank you.

Mr.

Gillary, and who's after Mr.

Gilbert?

Dr.

Gillary, it is Miss Barbara Rice.

Hello, everyone.

My name is Cole Begillery, and my address is 320 Majestic Grove, and I'm here to speak in support of the large area rezoning.

Ladies and gentlemen of the Commission, I ask that you act on your responsibility to the people of our city in going through with this proposal.

I believe that the work that has been done up until now on behalf of this proposal has been well-intentioned, well thought out, and thorough.

I believe that the I-2 heavy industrial zoning has not been properly exercised.

And instead, the people of the area have suffered from its excesses from the pollution and noise and the other complaints that you have heard thus far.

I would like to also speak in support of mixed use and commercial zoning at this location.

I do not believe that we can trap our city in Amber and cause it to permanently be petrified by mistakes made 50 years ago, as has been properly illustrated here.

I think that for the neighborhood to improve and grow, it must be allowed to change.

And by keeping it I2, we are also hamstringing the rodeo, the Spurs, the city, and the county's ability to change with the will of the people.

I yield the rest of my time to the floor.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Gilles.

Ms.

Rice.

Next we have Miss Rice to be followed by Miss Rendall Riddle.

Miss I'm sorry?

Miss Riddle.

Riddle?

Okay.

Miss Rice?

I need one time.

Okay.

To whom would you like to yield your time?

Okay.

Is there anyone who wants Ms.

Rice's time?

But hasn't already spoken.

What's your name, ma'am?

Laquita Santos?

Okay.

We're gonna hold we'll call you up, but you'll get four minutes, you'll get Miss Rice's time.

Price.

And my I am sorry, my clearly not hearing well.

Price.

No, it's that price.

All right.

Price.

Ms.

Price.

I apologize, Miss Price.

Apologies.

Who's next?

Miss Brenda Riddle.

Miss Brenda.

All right.

Ms.

Santhos, you want that time too?

You want six minutes?

Sure.

Give it to Miss Santos.

Next.

Ms.

Kendra Riddle.

Kendra Riddle Brown.

Kendra Riddle Brown.

All right.

Well, Miss Santos is all set, so anyone else?

All right.

Let's go.

Yeah.

Next we have Keith Farmer.

Wait, have you spoken, sir?

No.

What's your name?

Riddle Brown.

It was your time if you tell me your name.

What's your name?

Oscar Benz.

Ms.

Riddle.

Vix.

Y'all need microphones.

Sorry, go ahead.

Well, who's next?

Next we have Keith Farmer.

Mr.

Farmer, come on up.

Anyone want to give time to Mr.

Farmer?

All right.

You got two minutes.

I'll be quick.

All right.

Keith Farmer from Wheeland Farmers Copper.

We're at 1115 Brussels.

And 1103 Brussels.

So I'm I'm against any changes.

You know, we're a business.

We're in a quiet area of the in the middle between Brussels and Paulson there.

Our neighbors are good neighbors.

Um our company is uh all about safety, and that includes environmental safety and keeping our people safe and making sure everyone goes home safe and comes back the next morning safe.

Um we're also an essential business, which I would assume many of the companies in the in the area are essential like during COVID, uh supplying you know, energy uh providers like CPS Energy and others.

So thank you for the time.

All right, Mr.

Farmer, stick around.

I might have some questions for you.

Or another commissioner might.

All right, next.

Next we have Mr.

Alonzo Jones, Mr.

Alonzo Jones.

Oh, okay.

And your name, ma'am.

Matty Shields.

Maddie Shields.

My name is Grace Bennett, my nine.

Okay, and I've missed your name now.

Grace Bennett Hill, thank you.

All right, Mr.

Jones, you will have six minutes.

And I was just about to crow about how good I was about the first name, and then I messed up a second.

All right, Mr.

Jones, six minutes.

Good evening, everyone.

Um we come uh before you all today looking for the same thing that everyone else looks for when they get up in the morning, when they go to work, um the dream that you have is to have your home, have your area, live in an environment that's safe for you and your children, your grandchildren.

Well, we had parents that my parents are one of the original owners who did that.

They bought in the area, they built, and they've taken care of the area.

And one of the first things that I heard in opposition of this zoning was property value.

Now, if you take any of those homes, I don't know if I I challenge you to go look at them, but if you take those homes, they're majority of them are brick homes all the way around.

If you take those homes and pick them up and move them about this city, they'd be worth double or triple what they're worth.

But we want to talk about value because all we're talking about is our business.

But we want to talk about our living conditions, our home, and our life.

Our life, like everyone else, consists of breathing fresh air, having clean water, and be able to take care of yourself.

That's what everybody wants to do.

We are continually in opposition, as you hear, about being able to maintain those functions.

Those functions are the same thing, all these people with outside of our address that have spoken already, they have that already.

And I guarantee you they would be up here if we took their businesses and moved them in their neighborhood.

The problem is there's a lot of misconception that I'm hearing.

One is that we're trying to get them to leave.

That's not true.

We have been trying to be neighbors.

We have been neighbors before you even got there.

And some of the buildings that have been built there and some of the property that's there, some of the owners have had them for a long time, as Mr.

Peacock.

But these things that we are talking about at this time is not taking your business away from you, and that's all we keep hearing.

If somebody moves out, I'm gonna have to.

All we're asking you to do, as you've heard earlier today, is to police your area, keep it clean like we're trying to, and cut down on the heavy industrial zoning.

Because heavy industrial zoning and life doesn't go well together.

I think we all understand that.

So any time you are speaking of doing anything more than what you are doing at the present time in our neighborhood, you're speaking against my health.

You're speaking against my children's health.

You're speaking against my grandchildren's health.

As you see, we have bought those homes, and now the generations are staying in them.

A lot of the generations are still in them.

So therefore, we know, and we have been through this fight for a long time.

Um in 2002, the SBC Center was built.

Of course, everyone was for that.

Uh everyone was for we were about to win a championship.

We immediately won one.

So everybody was happy.

Everyone's happy.

Except for us, continually.

Why?

Because when that was built over there and everybody came over there, there was a promise again, a promise again.

And in that promise, that rezoning should have been done like you've heard of today several times.

But that didn't happen with that promise.

We live through that.

That promise is now about to be changed and go down downtown if possible, where another promise, which will be left with another broken promise.

With that being said, those promises need rezoning.

They've been needing rezoning, and these businesses have taken advantage of them.

Not saying that they can't be there as businesses, but what we're claiming is the type of businesses that you are doing.

We have a lot of good neighbors that have businesses, and the KOE camp has been a good neighbor, you know, in their time being here.

But the thing is is that the things that we are having to happen now, which without even without even having uh going through the proper channels, as uh Mr.

Eigerhart spoke of earlier, which is businesses moving in, they don't even get a permit.

And they cut streets, they cut curbs, they build houses, they build buildings that's not even supposed to be there, it's in the wrong zoning.

And um I think the uh uh the city over here has found that out and they see that.

So we have had a rash of that happening, and when this happens, they bring in whatever they want, and then we have to keep fighting to get it out.

So I don't really understand what the fight is to actually continue to harm us in our neighborhood, because anything that you're doing more than what you're doing now will harm us.

And as I stated, if we move your business to your neighborhood, you would be up here in opposition, even as it's operating now, and some of them operate pretty decent, but just for the change, the change alone of bringing your business to your neighborhood would have you in opposition.

So we're saying right now the change and what we need and what we were promised, even over again, which was life, health, a good living area, and some business that come in to support minor stores, small industry things like that.

That's what we're looking for.

The same thing that's happening down at the uh uh at the Pearl, the same thing, all those things.

Our area can support all those things, but we do not need more industry.

We don't need more industry, we're not going anywhere.

We heard that earlier too, uh talking about um seeing us leave.

No one's trying to make them leave.

Why are you talking about seeing us leave?

We heard about threatened by lawsuits.

We're threatened by lawsuits.

Why?

Because we want to live, we want our children to live, we want them to bring clean air.

We don't want the chemicals and stuff around.

All right, thank you, Mr.

Jones.

Thank you.

Next we have Miss Laqueta Jones.

I'm sorry, Laqueta Santos.

Ms.

Santos, you've got six minutes.

Come on up here.

And who's after Ms.

Santos?

After Miss Santos, we'll have Mr.

Greg Boy.

Hi, I'm Laquita Santos.

Uh my residence is 3735 Belgium Lane.

Um I'm also a lender at 819 T I M I L O S Timolo Drive off of Gimbler Road.

Um, I wanted to come and speak because I am the baby of this neighborhood.

These are all my parents.

Okay.

Um throughout the years of my life.

I am now hitting 50, getting ready to hit 50.

Okay.

And um, so I just want to give my experience.

I jog my neighborhood on a daily basis on a daily basis.

Um I was little, I also went to the Redberry Mansion that's up on the hill.

We also I also attended um the KOA camp.

Well, um, and uh I even had the pleasure of even actually staying at the KOA camp with my husband recently, and um our experience there was great, but also with the industrial that's been around us, it's been a damper to everything.

So I am for the light industrial because even us being at the KOA camp, the dust and stuff was very terrible as far as being there on the campus.

Okay.

I when I say that I jog, we have a trail that goes throughout the park all the way up to um commerce, or however it may be.

And I take that trail in the morning and I also take that trail at night.

Um the pollution of everything that's going on around it has actually um startled me.

I've been an athlete all my life, and I accumulate, you know, having some allergies of myself.

Went to the doctor today, and she still tells me that I need to take my allergy medicine due to that.

Just like how they rezone and have to pay for rezoning, we also have to repay and fix our homes.

I have continue to dust off my house, dust off my AC units, replace my AC units, due to this matter.

I stay behind the artisan apartments off of Leon Valley, so I'm right next door to the truckers that's there.

With all the pollution and stuff that goes on.

Repairing everything as a homeowner, if you are a homeowner, it costs.

Just like it costs for the rezoning.

So I'm giving my experience today as the youngest, and how I will continue to keep fighting for my neighborhood that I was raised in.

And I have children of my own.

And they love where they were grew up, you know, where they grew up at as well.

And so for me to be able to upkeep the neighborhood along with my house.

I mean, that's like the most important thing, life.

I am a funeral director here in San Antonio.

I also work at Bear County Medical Examiner office.

So life is very important.

Very important.

Your health is very important.

So on that note, I just want to say I'm for the life industry.

Thank you.

Thank you, Ms.

Santhus.

Mr.

Boyd.

And it I think it's Obly.

I apologize.

Close enough.

Uh good afternoon, Commissioners.

Uh my name's uh Greg Oblloy, uh 2775 Stevens.

Um I'm with uh Crown Enterprises and Central Transport Property 139 Gembler.

Um I have I would say a soft objection to this reason large area rezoning plan.

Our property is set to go from I2 heavy industrial down to uh light industrial, and we can probably continue to operate within that that zoning.

But we're new to this area.

We uh just bought these two parcels uh relatively recently.

Um we have uh a major capital plan, you know, for central transport to improve the site in the area, and so I hear a lot of wrongdoings over the years.

Uh as an LTL carrier, central transport um employees in the area, most of uh the drivers live within a five-mile radius of the terminal.

Um the only trucks in an for an LTL carrier are our trucks.

There's no independent drivers, there's no overnight cabs, there's no refrigerated trucks.

We service the local community local community.

So anybody from a local woodworking artisan all the way to home depot, we're kind of that middle mile for them in our network, we can get their products across the country.

Um this issue is not unique to San Antonio.

There's a lot of rezoning of industrial throughout the country, but this is where my my soft objection comes.

When you move the stuff and the the trucking and the middle mile trucking out of certain areas, you move them farther away.

Who gets hurt, right?

The only thing is that the costs get added to it.

So if we if you move the middle mile truckers and carriers out 30 miles to find farmland to redo it, well, the cost is only going to go to the consumer.

Uh we supply Home Depot, but we also supply artisans, um, big and small um home, you know, home up businesses.

So again, it's a soft objection.

I really you should really think strongly about what what you're doing here.

Thank you.

All right, thank you, Mr.

Hobler.

Next we have James McKnight to be followed by Matthew Gilbert.

All right, Mr.

McKnight and Mr.

Gilder.

Thank you, James McKnight 112 East Pacon.

I am here on behalf of uh Southern Warehouse District Distribution.

They have a drop yard at 639 Gimbler, and uh this is gonna be also kind of a soft objection that that's offering C2 conditional for oversized uh vehicle service.

And I'm saying what we have on the property right there, there's not exactly the right zoning that's gonna fit for us.

So I'm asking for a light industrial instead of a C2 with the oversized manufacturing.

So we're being offered the oversized manufacturing as it is, not manufacturing, excuse me, uh vehicle storage and service.

That's really what we're looking for is to be able to service those vehicles.

This property has been operating for over 13 years, and we went through a heavy, heavy scrutiny process with the city to get it entitled as it is.

And uh I don't agree with some of the other folks that spoke, like uh Ken Brown, who said this wasn't appropriate.

Uh we agree that this is unfortunate that it's like this.

So we're trying to, the city's already allowing us to continue to operate certain uses.

We'd like to do that, but we want to do that with a use that's or that will fit us.

So, more specifically, instead of the C2 conditional, we're asking for a light industrial with that same use, the manufactured home oversized vehicle sales and service.

That's it.

Thank you.

Sorry, thank you, Mr.

McKnight.

Next, we have Matthew Gilbert to be followed by Miss Taylor, Danette Taylor.

All right.

Mr.

Gilbert, and then Ms.

Taylor.

Good afternoon, Commissioners.

Matthew Gilbert with Ortiz McKnight 112 East Pacon, uh respectfully requesting a continuance so we can continue to work with uh both the District 2 council office and the community to see if there is a zoning district that kind of splits the baby, uh, respects the uh neighbors while still uh allowing us to um proceed with her business.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Gilbert.

Next we have Miss Danette Taylor to be followed by Rosie Taylor.

Do you want her time?

All right, Miss Danette Taylor will take Miss Rosie Taylor's time.

Hello, my name is Danette Taylor.

I live at with my mom, Rosie Taylor at 3655 First High Drive, San Antonio, Texas 78219, born and raised there.

And I am in we are in favor of the rezoning.

Um I do see that the difference that it has made and when it comes to her health.

Um it has made a really big difference.

You can tell just simply because she's had to just take more medicine than usual just because of the breathing and all the dust.

I mean, I can wash the car today, tomorrow, go watch the dust off of the car.

So it's really, really bad, and it would really be nice for us to be downgraded to what it is that we're trying to get done today.

And I do thank you for your time.

Thank you, Ms.

Taylor.

All right.

Next we have Miss Gloria Simmons.

Ms.

Simmons.

To be followed by Lenita Perry.

Miss Simmons and then Miss Perry.

Miss Simmons, go on once.

Are you here, ma'am?

Gloria Simmons.

All right, Miss Perry.

Oh, Miss Perry.

Sounds like she wants to be over.

All right.

Mr.

Vince.

To Mr.

Bix again.

All right.

Ms.

Perry will yield her time to Mr.

Vicks.

That'll give him six minutes at this point.

Next, we have uh Miss Doris Fix.

Can't do it.

He's already at six.

He's maxed out.

All right.

Who's next?

Miss Ali.

All right.

All right.

Ms.

Vicks is giving her time to Miss Ali.

Yep.

All right.

Next we have Miss Jackie Stewart.

Miss Jaffe Stewart.

Yes.

I'm yelling my time to Ms.

Ali.

All right.

All right.

So now we have Miss Joclin Jacqueline Ali, and she will have six minutes.

Yes, ma'am.

Good morning.

I'm sorry.

Good afternoon.

It feels like morning.

My name is Jacqueline Ali, and I live at 3427 Belgium Lane.

Good afternoon, Commissioners, Businesses, and my neighbors.

I represent the United Homeowners Improvement Association that includes the neighborhoods of Willowwood Estates, Metal View North, and Metal View Park, neighborhoods that were built in the early 1960s when this land was cornfields, not heavy industrial.

Our homes, our histories came first.

But over time, industrial businesses and heavy traffic have come closer, and the effects are real.

Because our neighborhoods were built first, we're getting the short end of the stick.

The health risks, the traffic, the noise, the risk to our children, and lower home values despite decades of pride and care in our properties.

Studies show that high volumes of truck and industrial traffic lead to more dangerous conditions for pedestrians, cyclists, and residents.

I have watched trucks daily speeding along Belgium Lane, constantly, even though an elementary school is housed on that very street.

I have witnessed tanker trucks traveling through the streets that are shared by both residents and businesses.

God knows what's being carried in those trucks.

I have seen where the BCOM construction company have placed gas tanks along its Belgium Lane fence line on their property, right across the street from Mama D, my 92-year-old neighbor, exposing all of us to the dangers of a gas leak and or possibly an explosion.

On September 10th at 1142 a.m., I had to slam on my brakes en route to a meeting to keep a Bassie truck from ramming my car as he was pulling out from Bassie property on Belgium Lane.

Without regard that I had the right of way as I traveled on a street that I live on and have traveled and used every day for the last 35 years.

Neighboring houses where a portable toilet company was allowed to exist because of improper zoning, and was eventually found to be disposing waste on its premises.

These are the issues and concerns our neighborhoods deal with every day.

So on behalf of our UHIA, I asked this commission to rezone the industrial businesses adjacent to our neighborhoods from heavy industrial to a destination that better serves our residents, such as mixed use like commercial or residential zoning.

This change would reduce heavy truck traffic and pollution that threatens our health and our safety for our children.

Protect and restore our property values, and open opportunities for housing, green spaces, and small businesses that strengthen community life.

We didn't choose to be next door to heavy industrial.

We grew up here, built the neighborhood, raised families here, and it's time that zoning reflects our rights to clean air, safe streets, fair property values.

This is for our future, my grandchildren, my great-grandchildren, and definitely for all of our residents.

Thank you.

Thank you, Miss Ali.

All right.

How many speakers do we have left?

We probably have about just ten.

Ten.

Ten speakers.

All right.

Anyone need a break, Commissioners?

Yeah.

All right.

Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to take about a seven-minute break.

This meeting of the zoning commission of the city of San Antonio will recess for approximately 17 minutes, and we will reconvene at that time.

Thank you all so much.

All right.

Ladies and gentlemen, uh we will now reconvene this meeting of the zoning commission of the city of San Antonio.

Before we get to additional public comment, I did want to note for the record that Commissioner Bottles left at 152.

Or so.

I'll defer to you if you have a better time.

All right.

But at this point, we will resume public comment on item number three.

All right.

Next we have Miss Beatrice Anderson.

I yield in my time to one of the other.

All right.

Who wants Ms.

Anderson's time?

We're getting down to the very end, so someone wants it, someone can get it.

All right.

Next.

Miss Mary Johnson.

Miss Mary Johnson.

Oh.

I'll take her time.

All right.

Mary Johnson.

Okay.

You want to give your time, sir?

What's your name?

Joel Malone.

Joe Malone is taking Mary Johnson's time and uh I'm sorry, Beatrice.

Miss Anderson's time as well.

All right.

So next we have Mr.

Joe Malone.

Joe Malone, good news.

All right, sir.

You will have six minutes if you would give us your name and address, please.

Afternoon.

I thank you all for being in here for us.

This whole thing is about the pursuit of happiness and health.

Sir, I'm sorry to interrupt.

Could you say your name and address, please?

Joe Malone.

My address is 3703 Willow Wood Boulevard, San Antonio.

Very good.

78219.

Okay.

Thank you.

And as I was saying, this whole thing is about health and pursuit of happiness.

We uh the conversation has been brought up of people's rights.

Where does my right start and the other person stop?

And and and I think we need to think about this when we are saying, well, what has been happening here?

People are dying from all of this dust and health if you look at it.

If you look at the health rate of the people in our three neighborhoods, you would probably find more cancer deaths there than in most neighborhoods.

And you gotta say something is causing it.

And uh I can take my car to the car washer on Monday.

And on Tuesday, it needs washing again.

And this is simply from the dust by those trucks.

So what we are asking is not that you do anything except change the way we are doing things, and that you can uh limit production on some of these things, and that we could uh have a chance to to survive.

That's all we're after.

We are not trying to go against any business.

We are not trying to tell anyone to leave.

We just want to live and breathe.

And and I think the only way we're gonna do that is the rezoning.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Malone.

All right, and next we have Mr.

Oscar Filks or Vix, I'm sorry.

Oscar Booth.

Mr.

Oscar Vicks.

Good evening.

My name is Oscar Vicks.

I live at 1214 Picardy Drive, San Antonio, Texas, the USA.

And I've been there for over 50 years.

And I've served as a president for at least six terms, I know, until I just finally realized that if I die, somebody's gonna take my place.

So I said I might as well make that happen now.

So we just wanna thank God for Miss High Lee and Mr.

Jones who's doing a fantastic job.

But I think what we need is to go to um some college and take us a human resource course.

I just can't believe we've been fighting.

I the first time I came down here was probably like 1972.

And we have fought everything from drug places.

The guy asked me about a nudie building.

I said, Man, do you know where that nudie building is?

If you walk across the track, that's Bella Cameron Elementary School.

And you won't ask me to support something like that.

If we would all just take a human a human course about respect for one another, all these businesses here talking about they've been here 50, 60 years.

If I was been the president sixth term, I should at least know them.

You know what I mean?

I don't know none of them.

You know what I mean?

Now everybody in San Antonio know that UHIA been coming to City Hall, the commissioner.

If I moved in that neighborhood, they'd be the UHIA be the first somebody I contact.

Do anybody in here know why we went to Vietnam?

I ain't found nobody to say why we went to Vietnam.

And you know how many people died over there?

They say we went to Vietnam to fight for the South Vietnamese to have a democratic government instead of a uh communist government.

Well, you know what I know is about oil and money.

You know and I know that.

Well, I got shot in Vietnam the night before Halloween, 1970.

When I came back to my hometown in Farn City, Arkansas, Memphis, Tennessee, they had a colored restroom, a colored water fountain, a colored restaurant.

Now, excuse my friend, but you mean I don't took my behind halfway around the world to fight for somebody else's rights.

And I come home and I ain't got no right.

Now, it seemed like to me these businesses are telling us um, y'all just let us do what we want to do.

Now suppose somebody told me, well, Biggs, everybody else going to a color restaurant, why don't you just go to a colored restroom?

So now I've been fighting ever since I've been in San Antonio 50 years.

I call the Fiesta Flambeau night parade.

Now y'all remember what happened in 2021?

That was the pandemic, right?

Of all days, the Fiesta Flambeau schedule, the Fiesta Flambeau on June 19th.

Now do you think I've been doing the Juneteenth parade for 25 years, fighting for everybody's equality, justice for all.

Now, do you think if we had a pandemic, I would schedule the June T parade on Fiesta Flambeau now?

You think I do that?

So we would all just take a human course and what we're doing and how and how we treating one another.

I called a Fiesta Flambeau.

I said, Now let me tell you all what you're mad or pissed off and almost there.

But I'm not the type of person to stay like that.

And let me tell y'all how we're gonna fix that.

Y'all gonna put something in the June team parade, and we're gonna put something in the Fiesta Parade.

Oh wow, Mr.

Biggs, that's a great idea.

Ever since they've been putting something in the June team parade, and we've been putting something in the fields.

That's a human course.

You know what I mean?

That's you ain't you you concerned about how I feel, and I'm concerned about how you feel.

We could have just left being mad at one another.

So I'm telling y'all, we are not staying in one place for 50 years and don't want to be there.

We decide we're gonna be in our neighborhood.

If these businesses had any kind of decency about themselves, they would come to UHIA.

They would look at our track record and see we don't stop.

We fight for our families for our kids.

And they would come in the neighborhood and say, Look, we think about bringing this business to the neighborhood, and this is what we want to do.

And if you don't like it, let's talk about it.

But just to do it and think we we ain't gonna do nothing about it, it ain't gonna happen.

If we've been there over 50 years, you realize how many taxes we are paid.

We ought to have some kind of right.

Somebody ought to say, well, you you can have this.

You shouldn't have to just fight for everything.

A lady told me the other day I couldn't park in a handicapped parking space because I had a purple heart plate, but I didn't have a handicap.

I said, ma'am, I don't lost my head in the post office delivering mail.

I've been shot up in Vietnam.

Y'all ought to be looking for me a parking space instead of telling me where I came from.

But that's what human relation is in a human course.

Y'all sitting here, y'all live in neighborhood.

If you wouldn't want it in your neighborhood, you shouldn't want it in my neighborhood.

I mean, it's just that simple.

That's what y'all are here for to represent us.

And if you know you don't want a party party portable in your neighborhood, that shouldn't even bought that.

You know what I mean?

We shouldn't have to.

We don't have to go get buses and show to come down here and fight for our neighborhood when we got representatives supposed to be doing it.

So y'all can sit in here and talk about, well, y'all can leave if you want to leave.

That's we've been there for 50 years.

Why should we want to leave?

So why we can't work with one another?

Why we can't say, well, we can we can come to this point, and you can come to that point, and let's work out something and live with one another.

That's what it's all about.

How much more time I got?

You're there, sir.

But you were on the dock.

Thank you, Mr.

Vicks.

Next.

Next, next we have Miss Velma Green.

Uh Miss Green.

And she is to be followed by Mr.

Jack Finger.

Very good.

Good afternoon, commissioners.

My name is Velma Green, and I own property at 3419 Chateau Drive, my homestead.

I live in China Grove right now.

Um story is basically to give you a little history of the feel of the area.

My parents bought in 1962 one of the homes in Willow Woods, which was in the parade of homes.

I'm sure you've heard of that in San Antonio.

Well, our homes as they were being built, some of the first ones were in the parade of homes.

They had a magazine and everything with all the the builders' names and the home styles, and we were proud to have moved over there so that we could have what would have probably been a suburban home at that time because we had the cabbage fields across the street and plenty of greenery, pecan trees, and good living, as the science said, living is good in Willow Wood.

So we were proud, still proud to be able to have our homesteads there, raise our families, be able to pass them on to the next generation.

We we consider that uh our legacy, and we want to be able to pass a good, strong, firm uh history and property on to our legacy.

Um I remember growing up being able to walk down in Pletts Park and actually pick blackberries from the side of the Salado Creek.

That shows you how good it was back then.

Today I don't know.

I wouldn't want anybody to pick anything from there because of the pollution that has settled in there.

I mean, oh, it takes time for that stuff to get right, and we want to start now by having it get right.

And we want to start now by having it get right.

And so that's why I'm in favor, as we all are, for this particular change to come about.

We are in favor of it.

Thank you.

Thank you, Ms.

Green.

Mr.

Finger.

Who is after Mr.

Finger?

That would be it for item number three.

Very good.

Mr.

Chairman, other members of the Commission.

My name is Jack Finger.

I live at 1132 West French place.

Yes.

I believe it you do want more people to move into residential areas versus the uh heavy industrial.

I really do.

I've supported that for many years.

Where it makes sense?

I am I fear that this is one of the exceptions.

Ms.

Losef that this is your area, your district there.

And I mean, you can correct me if I'm wrong, but why wouldn't uh homeowners to tax it taxation writ tax rates go up higher because of this prospect here?

Why would there not be increased delay times for first responders?

No.

As much as I hate to admit it, as much as we all hate to admit it, there is a place for industry here in town.

There's a there's a place for heavy industry in our town.

Is there going to be a market for residential areas, especially in that top red triangle up there?

These are questions that I've I've been hearing because some of us have just learned about what's going on here.

No.

Um yes, there is where the places who are here in the heavy industrial areas, if they get out zoned from where they are, where are they supposed to go?

They furnish jobs for for the people in this general area of town.

Where would they go?

All the warehouse police.

So anyway, all right.

Thank you, Mr.

Finger.

That is your time.

Thank you.

And that's it for public comment.

All right, very good.

The public hearing is now over.

Well, actually, it's not over.

Sorry.

Apologize, I misspoke.

We are still in public hearing, uh, but we are now going to go into a portion for Commissioner questions.

Uh for the ladies and gentlemen in the audience, what that means is uh we will have two rounds.

Uh we will go through the first round for 10 minutes per commissioner.

And then once every commissioner who wants to ask questions has asked their questions in that first round, we will go back around for five more minutes.

Uh the commissioners may ask questions of the staff in this case, as well as any member of the public that is present.

All right.

This is a district two case.

So uh Commissioner Lose to you for 10 minutes.

Okay.

Thanks so much.

Um I have some questions for staff if whoever wants to come up.

Um I was wondering if um you all could speak to the the outreach you did to the businesses in the area and just walk us through what kind of communication or outreach was done with those folks.

Absolutely, thank you, Commissioner.

Um, Forrest Wilson, uh principal planner with the zoning department.

Um so we um once we were given uh the CCR and the resolution to initiate the project, um, we we did a number of things.

So we engaged um both the business community and the neighborhood associations in in various ways.

So uh first we started reaching out with the businesses um via phone calls, individual phone calls.

Um we notified them with a with the notice for two community meetings that we held.

Um and then we also reached out for the ones that we did um get return phone calls to.

We reached out to them.

We we met individually with several of the business and property owners there.

Um and then again through throughout that process, we were in communication with the neighborhood association on what they wanted to see.

Okay, thank you.

I'm curious, this might be you as well, but another soft question.

A lot of the business owners mentioned um zoning changes potentially changing or impacting future use.

Um I think staff might have mentioned that the proposed all the staff recommendations are intended to maintain the current use.

And I think some neighbors had also mentioned that there wasn't an intention to push anyone out, just wanting to adjust zoning to match current use.

Would you be able to talk through specifically some of the businesses that mentioned needing to change their operations because of the rezoning proposal?

Just like walking through which how I guess anyone, any businesses that would have a change due to the proposed rezoning.

Not as worried about the future potential uses, but the current uses specifically.

Yeah, absolutely.

So if you'll if you'll notice on the map, you know, we would there were several conditional uses.

And the reason that we'd do that is because that'll give us the ability to basically let these businesses continue to operate.

So it gives them the zoning that matches their current use.

Based on what we could see on the ground, we did site visits.

We uh spoke to many of the businesses, um, many of the property owners in the area.

We um we did get feedback from the community meetings about how properties were being used.

We um again really I mean I guess all I can say is that the zonings that we're recommending align with the uses that are there on the ground today as best as we could tell.

And then have a specific question about the KOA campground.

I know they were um proposed zoning C2, but requested a different one with the residential or mobile home park with the conditional use.

Can you explain why the C2 proposal?

Absolutely.

So the the KOA campground, uh the biggest issue is that is that they're they're an R V park.

So the conditional use is for recreational vehicle park that we'd recommended.

Um, I also heard their their comment about they'd like to be um considered more of a manufactured home, but that is not what we saw they were being used today.

Um and if we were to uh is the way that the uses um what uses are allowed under that, uh we wouldn't be able to add a specific use authorization for an R V park to a manufactured housing park.

So the RV park seemed like the most appropriate based on how they're using it today.

Thank you.

That's all for staff.

I did want to um ask if they're still here.

The property owner in Gemblu who had a soft objection.

Is he still here?

I just wanted to clarify what your request was.

Yes, so our request uh right now it's it's recommended for C2 conditional for manufactured home oversized vehicle sales, service, or storage.

And what we would like or asking for is L light industrial with that same use.

And the reason is because of the size of the vehicles.

Oversized vehicles is generally not the size of the vehicles that we are talking about for these.

There's trucks and trucks fall into a different category, and that's why we're asking for that.

What address, Mr.

McMahon?

639 Gimbler.

Have a property ID if that's yeah.

No, I appreciate that.

Thank you.

That's helpful.

Okay.

I think that's all for questions for me.

Thanks.

Okay.

All right.

We will now move down uh to my left.

Commissioner Kelly, you have 10 minutes for your first round of questions?

You don't have to use it.

Uh I think I'll defer.

Uh, all right, very good.

But you don't get it back, but you don't have to use it.

Commissioner Woodsett, you will now have 10 minutes.

Go ahead.

Um make the questions sort of short.

Okay.

Um, sorry.

Can you turn the mic on?

Thank you.

The uh 61 property owners involved were they invited to participate in this rezoning prior to August, July of this year.

Did they get involved over in 2024 early on in this process?

All all of the property owners were notified about the rezoning.

Then they were notified prior to the community meetings that we held in August.

Specifically which date?

What do you mean?

Well, I'm asking were prior to just maybe two weeks before, right?

Sometime in July?

We sent the notices in July prior to the community meetings in August.

Okay, so they had no awareness of all this going on during 2024 and early 2025 when the staff was working with the neighborhood association and all to plan this.

I I don't know what they knew at that time, but I can tell you that we notified them well in advance of of any final decisions.

So that's July uh this year.

Yes, sir.

Do the 61 properties or so?

I mean, I don't know how many there are exactly, have any kind of documented code violations that justify downzoning them?

There were some code violations on some properties for various things.

That was not solely the justification for downzoning if they had a violation or not.

So can you give me a little couple pointers as to the justification for downzoning all of the properties?

It was simply based on how they're using the property today.

Yes, I read your CCR, and that's actually conflictive because it says based on need to match the zoning to existing uses to the land uses, and it's kind of the opposite of what is actually going on because they're all existing uses, they all are in compliance with zoning, and they will become not in compliance if this zoning occurs.

So I'm going to chime in on that one.

Couple things.

So the language in the CCR, I will start by saying it's not development services CCR, it comes from the City Council.

And the instructions from City Council are to initiate a large area rezoning that will allow for future redevelopment opportunities to occur while protecting existing homes and property owners from heavy industrial uses.

So that is the directive.

I will also say that there are no properties that are being made non-conforming as a result of this large area rezoning.

They are being provided conditional use zoning, consistent with their established use that allows ongoing operation, it allows expansion.

None of these existing businesses would be subject to non-conforming use registration or the limitations thereof.

Did I hear you say they can expand under the C2 conditional use zoning?

Yes.

So if they're a warehouse and they want to add on three or four thousand feet, they can do that without any kind of rezoning.

That's correct.

And if the use changes with their tenant changes, they can continue.

If they change the use, it would have to be to the same use or another conforming use in the base zoning district in which they are located.

I'm trying to understand some of the uses are sort of open-ended office warehouse.

I mean, does that give them massive flexibility in terms of the tenants?

Office warehouse is a very flexible use, yes.

Question Did the staff who filed the rezoning application also kind of evaluate whether to approve it or not?

Did you all do your own?

We did development service staff didn't file the rezoning.

We we make the recommendations as to what specific zoning districts, but the CCR was filed by the district two office.

And staff does not approve anything.

Okay.

Uh will the properties that get the conditional use designations be subject to all current conditional use permit requirements under the development code.

There are no the the conditional, let me clarify what the conditional use zoning does.

So it does not limit a property to solely that conditional use.

It allows them to do that use and anything that is still allowed under that base zoning district.

All properties or all businesses in the City of San Antonio are required to get a certificate of occupancy.

So as far as permitting goes, you know, that that's one of the big ones that is will still be a requirement and is today as well.

Let me jump in just because I know this commission.

When you say base zoning, so essentially they're losing their current base zoning, which allows them lots of flexibility.

They're now going to be restricted to the new base zoning, which is much more limiting to them.

And so that's what I'm trying to get clarification here, is that they're only going to get the flexibility on the new base zoning, is that correct?

So the the heavy items.

Essentially, yes.

I mean, they they are allowing this will prevent future heavy industrial uses that are not currently there today from coming into the area.

But it will not prevent any of these current businesses from operating their businesses.

And I'm going to expand on that.

So because I know this commission, when you typically entertain conditional use, you're typically looking at conditions and site plans.

None of these businesses are going to be restrained to a site plan.

That's why they're allowed to expand.

And while forest is correct, this would prevent future heavy industrial uses from coming in.

There are about 178 permitted uses, whether it's uh permitted by right or through a specific use rezoning in the I2 heavy industrial district.

The C2 base zoning district for which many of these properties are being proposed allows 199.

So it provides greater flexibility of a different range of uses.

It's correct, but there's only probably about eight or ten common uses between the two of them.

So that's my concern.

As you're saying there's more uses, but the uses don't relate to what they bought their property for and what is currently ongoing.

So it kind of sounds like if everybody's each property is getting their own specific use or conditional use, that's kind of giving 61 custom zoning districts.

I wouldn't refer to them as custom.

Um they follow our conditional zoning regulations.

When you all did uh your planning for all this, um you said you've engaged the people, but did you engage, have you engaged each one of them individually to really understand what their existing uses are and can they live with this new situation?

Have you talked to them about would they prefer and can they have work with L or I1 or some mixed use?

It seems like this has been a blanket uh zoning that's just dropped on everybody rather than going around and trying to work with.

And I'm hearing from the neighbors that they're not uh they want to be neighborly.

Uh and I think the industrial users also may also too.

So there's got to be some kind of compromise where uh maybe some of the industrial property owners need to be on the neighborhood association board to participate and actually sit back and take some time and really pause this process and work through uh some reasonable concessions with everyone to where they both sides benefit and win versus just you're out of here uh type of situation.

It just feels to me that in some questioning and answers that I've asked for from the city, that uh I've not gotten a lot of clarification on things, not a lot of information.

I've had to kind of do my own research to understand this.

And I've asked for some open records on a lot of things, and that's been essentially ignored.

So Commissioner was this time is for questions, so you can ask, do you agree?

My question rating relative to that is when am I gonna get those requests that I made open record requests for under the new state law that said you have to provide it promptly?

That would then help me to make a more fair-minded and reasonable uh decision in this, but I you know it's I can't do that under what's been provided and this short rushed time frame in this case.

Your open records requests are being processed in accordance with applicable laws.

But what's it says promptly, and my requests have been out there for 12 or 14 days, and I've gotten nothing at this point.

So it makes it how can I make a decision uh on something like this without looking at that information?

All right.

Thank you so much.

Um Commissioner Woodsett, that is the first round of time for your questions.

You will have an additional five minutes should you choose to use it.

Uh Mr.

Mandellas, just to let you know, these are recorded and available on the website.

So we got it there.

Thank you.

All right.

Uh Commissioner Kellum, you have 10 minutes.

No questions.

All right.

Commissioner Sipes, 10 minutes.

All right, thank you.

Um first question is for staff, and that's uh uh in regards to the zoning as it existed way back in the day before the neighborhood was built in say 1960, 1963.

Um that was I think it was Ken who brought up that that it the the area, the whole area was zoned industrial and then an area was then rezoned for residential.

And um what my question is, is is that what happened, or is it kind of what we've seen in older areas in the city that many of us live in where it was like, oh, we'll zone this, but you can do anything under there.

It's like, yeah, and so that's why we would have you know a lot of things residential next to a business next to you know a bar next to this, is because you know it's zone that you can do anything underneath that.

Is that the reason why some of this happened?

So getting back to why who came first, essentially, is that kind of to the question?

Okay.

So it's not a simple the neighbor the houses came first, then the businesses.

Um there when that property when the area was annexed, that area was zoned for a residence district, as was previously mentioned.

Um while some of the businesses may have had that LL zone, this that whole area was was zoned, the whole area south of the neighborhood was zoned for LL after the A residence district was in place.

When was this annexed?

Probably in the looks like it was annexed in 1952 and zoned A residence district.

Um the area that Forrest just mentioned, kind of south of the neighborhoods, uh, were rezoned in 1957 to L, that was called the first manufacturing district uh upon adoption of the 2001 UDC that L converted to what today we would call I2.

Um, but again, to Forrest's point, it's not it's not so simple as all the houses were there then all businesses.

I know, I know.

All right, thank you.

Um I have a lot I have comments, but um um but I am not gonna um I know it's just questions.

All right.

So I will I will I will defer.

Thank you, Commissioner Sykes.

Because I'll I'll give you a tongue-lashing if that's what you want.

All right.

Uh we are now going to go to my right, Commissioner Hina Hosa.

You have 10 minutes.

Yes, uh a couple of questions here.

Uh number one, just to kind of get some clarification uh for us.

So this started with a C CR with the councilman, uh councilperson in District 2, which I'm assuming I'm uh he's had residents come to him.

I we don't know, but it got started there.

Um my question is, because I kind of heard different stuff from some of the the uh voicemails and some of the community members, if this passes and there is a uh a change, the current businesses, and I know you you've alluded to this, but be simplify for me even even simpler.

The businesses that are there currently, what happens?

So what happens day number two?

They will be able to continue operation as they are today.

So the portaparty is going to stay there, the dust is going to stay there.

The port-a-potty uh business is no longer there.

That was an older situation.

Thank you for clarifying that.

Uh but everything stays the same.

I mean, it's not going to be it it's for if they I'm assuming if they sell the property, then that's what kind of changes like new incoming industrial heavy.

Uh yeah.

If they were to sell the property or uh really um try to change the nature of their business to where it no longer matched to the zoning that we're currently recommending, that's where it might be an issue.

But again, as as they're currently operating today, uh they everybody, all these businesses will be able to continue.

Okay.

And um somebody who was born on the east side of San Antonio, and my dad was a proud Cherokee, Sam Houston High School.

Um, uh question for the community meetings, you guys said you had two, and I know at the last time you met with those last uh couple weeks ago, three weeks ago.

You said though one of them uh was that I think at uh Claude Black uh the Barbara Jordan Center.

Barbara Jordan uh center, and I think you all said it was like 60 plus.

That was neighbors, not not business people.

I'm talking about people who live in that area.

It was it was both.

Okay, no.

And did y'all receive any uh to me it seems like most residents are in favor of this?

Did y'all receive any negative or opposing um verbiage or from anybody opposing this that were that was a neighbor?

I'm just curious.

Not that I'm aware of, no.

Business likely.

Okay.

Um gentlemen, uh the questions are being addressed to Mr.

Wilson right now.

Uh if you would only answer questions that are addressed to you, I'd appreciate it.

Thank you.

And clarify for me uh real quick, uh, going back to that first question I had.

So the businesses that are currently there are going to be basically kind of grandfathered in, but they could kind of would confuse me, I think uh uh can you explain it to me again?

Yeah.

So I want us to be very cautious of using the word grandfathered, because grandfathered implies you don't have the zoning that you need to continue operating your business.

None of the businesses there today are going to be grandfathered because they will be zoned to expressly allow what they are doing.

So when I talk about non-conforming, those provisions will not apply.

The rules that apply to nonconforming properties say you're allowed to keep what you have, but you can't expand, those are not going to apply to these businesses.

What will apply to these businesses is if they intend to change their use.

If they want to go from an office warehouse to some other industrial use, that would not be allowed.

That's the limitation.

They would be allowed to change to any use allowed in C2 or C3 or any of these other base districts that are being applied to them, but they are not grandfathered because they are legally zoned for what they're doing.

Got it.

And to me, it seems like there's two issues, right?

There's residential people who live there and people who who have businesses.

So same question.

If I'm a resident, I live on Chateau Boulevard or I live on Gambler, how does that affect me?

So they would be able to continue to operate.

Do you mean what what would be the impact to the homes from this change of zoning?

No, I was specifically saying for if I'm a resident.

So you're saying this because most of them are going to be R4 or they're going to be residential.

So most of the homes are already zoned appropriately.

Was there any was there any homes that were not zoned appropriately?

Maybe they were stuck on, you know, 1952 zoning for some reason.

There's things happen.

Not home specifically.

There are, if you kind of look at that map there, there are properties within the neighborhood area there to the north of Gambler that didn't have the correct zoning, but they were not homes, no.

Okay.

Okay, understood.

And then uh one thing I I I want to I have a few comments for later, but uh this is more of a I guess a question.

Uh some of the initial zoning was 1952, 1957.

I just want to just stress that in 1952, that was a different time where certain uh it was just a different time, and I think we should move forward from now uh going forward.

Now, that being said, is there any future plans for other rezoning outside of this area?

Uh not directly outside, if that's what you you mean like directly surrounding this area, I mean, or the larger east side?

Um not that I'm aware of the question.

I think I'm done with my questions.

Thank you, Chair.

All right.

You will have a second round.

Should you choose to use it?

Commissioner Rodriguez, questions?

10 minutes?

No.

All right.

Commissioner Huey, 10 minutes?

Thank you, Mr.

President.

I won't be taking up 10 minutes.

I just have a very brief question for staff.

So earlier you showed a timeline.

Um, what is the driving factor behind that timeline?

So typically with our large area zoning cases, we um once we uh are received the initial resolution in CCR, we um we as staff determine what is an appropriate timeline, typically based on the size of the area and how much public engagement is going to be needed.

Um so in the in this situation, we we anticipated it would need a quite a while to get a lot of public engagement from all the stakeholders in the area.

So um that that's pretty much how we decided those dates.

Okay.

Thank you.

All right.

Thank you, Commissioner Huey.

Uh Commissioner Chase, questions?

Hi, yes.

Um sorry, I couldn't get the name of the gentleman who um has the KOA.

Could he come up, please?

Mr.

Rohdy, if you would.

Yes, ma'am.

Hi, Mr.

Brody.

Um so you were saying that you uh with the conditional use that they've assigned to you, it didn't quite fit um what your property does or maybe does in the future.

Yes, um I'm a little bit familiar with.

It's the base zoning, not the conditional use.

The base zoning?

Okay.

So I'm a little bit familiar with KOA as a I've stayed in a few.

So I know when you're talking about the little cabins, um, those are like the little wood ones with maybe an air conditioning unit, but no uh no plumbing.

Um are you concerned that you can't expand to those um larger uh cabin types that have the toilets, the showers, um, and a little loft.

Is that what you're trying to get the No?

We just want we just want the flexibility to have RVs, camping cabins, and if we need to, we used to have them in the past, uh mobile homes for our staff.

But we don't have mobile homes today, but we may want to put some in the future.

I see.

And when were you notified about this um base rezoning?

I I got uh I I was in Europe and I got back like the first week of August.

That's when I first heard about it.

Okay.

And were you able to reach out to staff and um communicate your concerns and start that?

Yes, I will.

I went to the first neighborhood meeting at Barbara Jordan uh meeting hall and expressed our concerns about being a campground and the city doesn't do much RV park zoning.

They don't really have a classification for it, which we would love to have.

But what you're trying to zone to C2 is a retail light zoning for retail businesses, is it doesn't fit campgrounds or warehouses or trucking facilities.

It's a C2 lie retail.

It's something I would put as like a 7-Eleven into or a flower shop.

It's neighborhood retail.

It just doesn't fit what's trying to get forced over here.

And did you have time to make a suggestion of what would fit your property better, or did that conversation not?

No, we we we've had conversations down here with staff, and we we feel that the mob the manufactured housing park is so flexible with the RV conditional use, is would be our ultimate.

If we ever wanted to sell the campground, some buyers are gonna get real confused with retail zoning on a campground, even though it's a conditional use.

I mean, and we don't know what our future city leaders are going to do with zoning laws and what the state may do.

And I mean, with the C2 zoning, I can build 2,500 apartment units on this property if I channelized it and lift it out of the floodplain.

I don't think that's what the intent is.

I think the intent is to get the nasty I2 uses out of the warehouses and vacant land across the street.

And as an effect, all of us are getting impacted.

Poor poor Dick Peacock, every time he has a vacancy, he's gonna have to come down here and ask for rezoning, spend 10 grand with a consultant and three or four months of his time.

I mean, if he wants to change a guy from a plumber to a hydroponic farm inside the warehouse, it's a change of use.

So it's not quite as easy as what's being portrayed here.

This is very complicated.

If I was a uh a guy with a warehouse with a five million dollar loan on it, Mr.

Roadie, she hasn't asked you a question.

Yeah.

Well, okay.

Thank you.

Thank you, sir.

Um I have a question for staff now.

Um I done is yes, for now.

Thank you.

Um so Mr.

Roadie would like mobile home park assigned, and I know that that's typically not assigned within city limits.

Um is there a conditional use for him to have that while he is in operation of the KOA?

Once he sells, um, you know, what we don't want to see is a mobile home park, you know, where people are renting and placing new mobile homes within the city limits, especially on a flood plane.

So I understand that we we don't want that, but is there a way to give him what he needs to operate, but also limit it from um after he sells the property and it's no longer used as a KOA that we don't see it as a mobile home park that um you know a landowner would be renting spaces for mobile homes?

Yeah, absolutely.

Let me clarify.

So the the district that we've recommended for the KOA camp ram is C2, so commercial district with a conditional use for recreational vehicle park.

Uh so we feel that the conditional use that we've recommended aligns with the way that they're currently using the property today.

Yep.

Could it Mr.

Road?

I'll just I'll just add about the ability to do the manufacturing housing park.

Um we wouldn't be able to add the conditional use to the MHC because it's a special district.

Okay.

Um could Mr.

Roadie add a mobile home to his property with the zoning you're proposing, like he like you said, like for staff or um, you know, sometimes these KOAs have people that live on the property to maintain it as a host.

Would they be able to add a home like that with the zoning that you're proposing for their property?

I don't believe so, but um again, that's not how they're currently using the property.

So uh us recommending staff recommending a district for a potential future use would, in my opinion, go against what we were asked to do in the CCR.

If if I may jump in here briefly as well, they may not add a manufactured home to the property with the zoning that is being proposed by staff, but they could also not add that to the zoning that they have today.

Today, because they are zoned I2 and used as a recreational vehicle park, they are in legal registered, non-conforming use, and the zoning that they're being given would bring them into conformity, which would allow for expansion.

So the presence or absence of the manufactured home is not allowed with the current zoning or the proposed zoning.

Okay, thank you.

I believe that's all my questions for now.

All right, thank you so much.

All right.

I'm up.

Let's talk about I2.

What is I2?

Any anyone?

Not in the audience.

Staff.

Heavy industrial.

Okay.

Give me an example of a heavy industrial use, if you would.

Um concrete batch plants.

Um, I can add a lot of things.

I'll read from the code.

Thank you.

Um this district accommodates uses that are highly hazardous, environmentally severe in character, and or generate very high volumes of truck traffic.

It's established in order to provide sites for activities which involved major transportation terminals and manufacturing facilities that have a greater impact on the surrounding area than industries found in L or I1 district.

These districts are located for convenient access for existing and future arterial thoroughfares and railway lines.

Um these districts are in many instances separated from residential areas by business or light industry areas or by natural barriers where they are adjacent to residential areas.

Um thank you, Ms.

Sanders.

I'm gonna stop.

You um all right.

So looking at sort of the base zoning listing uh from the city of San Antonio, that would include things like uh let's see, acetyline gas manufacturing and storage.

Yes.

Yes.

All right.

Uh how about chemical process clothing manufacturing?

Sounds about right.

Anything with chemical processing.

Centro chemical bulk storage.

Correct.

All right.

Mr.

Wilson, to you.

How many of the properties that are zoned I2 right now are in that kind of super hazardous usages?

Like the chemical processing, those kinds of uses.

I don't believe any of them are currently doing that.

Okay.

So I-2 is absolutely not appropriate, period.

Correct.

All right.

All right.

So let's go down to industrial one then, the general industrial zoning.

Uh let's see.

So we have manufactured homes and oversight vehicle sales.

Well, actually, sorry, I'm going to back up, Mr.

Wilson.

Let me back up and ask this question.

So when you say that something has a conditional use, what does that mean?

You're pulling down a use from a higher intensity use, is that correct?

Yes, sir, that's correct.

So go ahead.

All right.

So when we're talking about the C2 CDs that you proposed, there's not a single one that has an I2 use that's pulled down to that C2 base zoning.

Could you clarify what you mean by that?

So is there a single I2 use that's being pulled down to C2, the C2 base zoning?

So the conditional use is not coming from the I2 base uses.

That that's not possible.

Okay.

So it's not happening.

It it is not possible.

We cannot condition down any I2 uh permitted uses.

If it's permitted by right in I1, that could be conditioned out, but not I2.

All right.

Let's talk about those that are being pulled down then from I1.

Can you think of any offhand?

So there are some that were recommending a straight C2 or a C3 on, if that's what you mean, without a conditional use.

Okay.

Is there anything where you're recommending a commission uh conditional use that's coming from the series of uses for I1?

Yes, I believe so.

Yes.

Can you give me an example?

Is that possible?

Uh might have to get Ashley Leal to come up here and answer that.

Ashley, you can stay where you are where you are, but if you could answer the question, so we do have um ones that are permitted in I1, such as the metal products fabrication and the plastic vinyl processing use.

That is that is being a conditional use in a C2.

All right.

So let me ask this.

Uh Mr.

Farmer, I'm gonna ask you some questions in a second, but I'm not done with you, Mr.

Wills.

Um, you know, some things that I've heard about are people asking for L uses, uh, certain business owners asking for L uses.

Um that wouldn't necessarily work, and Mr.

Farmer uh is the copper manufacturer or copper cutter, I guess really.

Uh L wouldn't necessarily allow him to do what he needs to do, would it?

No.

Uh and and that again, I believe would go against what we were asked to do in this CCR, which was to reduce basically not reduce, but to align the zoning with the current uses rather than try to keep more of the industrial uses in the light industry in particular would uh allow a lot of those other uses like you were talking about as well.

Uh maybe not quite as intense as a chemical factory, but it would allow more industrial uses into the area.

Right.

Thank you.

Uh Mr.

Farmer, if you would.

Come on up.

So Mr.

Farmer, you and I had a chance to speak briefly during the break.

Right.

Okay.

So let me ask you, uh we talked about potentially L as an option.

Uh but as Mr.

Wilson, did I call you Wilder again?

No, oh good.

Um as Mr.

Wilson noted, L wouldn't necessarily allow your company, which does copper and uh copper cutting, right?

Yeah, let me let me explain a little more detail because it sounds kind of broad.

First of all, we we don't cut with any gases, any flame, any um oxygen acetylene, any plasma cutter.

Everything is cold cut with uh carbide chip saws.

So in sawing is a small part of all of our sales, really.

We sell we buy in bulk, whether it's copper that we sell to CPS energy or aluminum, uh brass and bronze.

So we're we're kind of high-end metals that are real clean.

Um so we don't create any smoke, any fumes.

Um we just create chips.

All right.

All right, Mr.

Farmer, I appreciate that.

If I cut you off, I apologize, but I'm running out of time.

But I guess my point is, you know, from the discussion I just had with Mr.

Wilson, L wouldn't allow you to do what you need to do, but a C2 with the metal, what is it, what is the actual proper title?

Metal products fabrication.

Metal products fabrication would.

So given that information, uh does that change your opinion about this rezoning?

I don't know that I understand it all about this the exceptions.

Okay.

Well, the good news is this is a recommending body, which means that we don't make any decisions.

We vote, we make a recommendation to city council, and so you will have another chance to do that.

I would advise you to get with Mr.

Wilson and or Ms.

Lyell over here and talk about what this is, because what I'm hearing is is that you know uh you have a uh I1 use, right?

The CCR says um well now I'm commenting.

I'm not gonna comment anymore.

Mr.

Farmer, thank you for your time.

All right.

Um everyone's talked to Roadie.

Uh Mr.

Christensen, would you come up, please?

With all due alacrity.

Yes, Commissioner.

Um let's talk about you represent uh Mr.

Peacock, is that correct?

Correct.

Okay.

And he has about 10 units.

You get 10 addresses.

10 addresses.

All right.

And um are those addresses being rented?

Is that what I understand?

Correct.

Okay.

How many of them are currently uh have tenants?

I believe nine.

What are the uses that are currently in place there?

Trade you're gonna ask me that.

Well, generally, I mean the two of them have been um armored car companies, Brinks, and there's the the other one.

Um one of them is like uh a machine type shop.

I mean, uh, you know, the so the city has given all of his property warehousing designations.

Which we're warehousing is is loose as staff said, but if he wanted to do auto repair, he couldn't do it.

He'd have to come in and do rezon.

If he wanted to do a machine shop, AC repair, all those would require rezoning under C2 C D for warehousing.

We're just asking for a little flexibility, something like L would give him that where he wouldn't have to rezone every time he gets a new tent.

What about C3?

Well, C3 allows a lot of things people don't like.

It allows bars, it allows club nightclubs, things like that.

And he doesn't no intention of selling any alcohol on the property, um, no restaurant or anything like that.

So that's C3 is better, but I if you want to do C3NA, I mean that's a little better, but L would be best.

Okay.

All right.

Thank you, Mr.

Christmas.

Uh can Mr.

Brown, if you would possibly run up here.

If you're here.

I'll say it's in the ball.

Oh, nope, then we're moving on.

Uh let's see.

Uh Mr.

Oblloy, are you still here?

Yeah.

All right, I got 50 seconds.

Um tell me again what your business is.

Uh it's LTL carrier, less than load.

Okay.

So think of old Dominion.

We're new to the area here.

You service the local community.

Okay.

And so I'm going to use the wrong word, transhipper.

Is that the right word?

Yeah.

Kind of.

Okay.

So that means you take things from a you know nationwide top of network and then you take them that middle mile is what you specifically.

Yeah, and last mile.

So we're a network, so we have terminal hubs, so here, Dallas, Austin, Houston, right?

And we can network it.

We can get stuff from here to Detroit.

Okay.

Or wherever you want to get it to across the country and locally.

So we pick we do pickups.

We do uh drop-offs in the morning and pickups in the afternoon.

And now I'm out of time.

But thank you, Mr.

Oblick.

Uh all right.

We are going to go for our second round of questions.

Um and this time the limit is five minutes.

So Commissioner Losef to you initially.

All right.

Commissioner Kelly.

Commissioner Woodson.

Okay.

Um I need to just clarify.

Uh microphone.

Sorry.

Clarify on the brief background on the CCR, the last sentence says this proposal seeks to rezone the properties and the land use as necessary to align the zoning with the existing uses.

That sounds contradictory to me because what you are doing is unaligning the zoning with the existing uses.

It was saying to align to change things to align the zoning with the existing use.

The existing use in many cases is industrial.

Now I think I'm in agreement that probably I2 is not relevant and not realistic, and it's not needed.

There may be one or two that need it.

But uh this didn't make sense and was sounding just the opposite of what is going on.

You're saying properties can continue their current use under C2.

Uh would you agree that that means they're frozen into a narrow specific use that based on the current use?

Like let's say, for example, if it's a uh auto repair right now, and they want to expand and have a welding shop in there, can they do that?

You could not expand into a non-conforming use, no.

Okay, so they have to stay with their auto repair.

They would have to stay with their existing use or change to a conforming use.

Which is C2.

It would have to be consistent with whatever base zoning district they're being assigned, yes.

Okay.

All right.

One other question.

Did you all uh evaluate whether SB 929 uh which is this bill about requiring compensation?

Uh if there's a down zoning, uh is the conditional use the way around that essentially?

I'm very aware of SB 929, and I know the city attorney's office is here if I misspeak, but SB 929 deals with when a municipal action renders a property non-conforming, these properties are not non-conforming.

It does not say a downzoning requires compensation.

Yes, I understand that's why you do the conditional use that circumvents that.

It is not at all a tool to circumvent, it is consistent with our development code and state law.

All right, thank you, Commissioner.

What's up?

Commissioner Kellum.

No.

All right, Commissioner Sipes.

All right.

Commissioner Hina Hosa.

Just one question.

Um, we we kind of relate to this zoning back to 1952, 1957.

I'm assuming it's because you know this is probably the outskirts of of San Antonio at this time.

So my question for city staff is currently, is there another area in the San Antonio area that has a lot of uh heavy industrial zoning?

If there's multiple, just say yes.

There are definitely multiple.

Okay.

And are most of those out in the outskirts, type Pass 1604-21 area?

I mean, does it like all out there?

I would say many of them are probably in what would have been considered the outskirts 50 to 60 years ago.

Okay, thank you.

All right, thank you, Commissioner Hinohosa.

Thank you, Commissioner Hinohosa.

Commissioner Rodriguez.

No.

Commissioner Hui.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

And we are allowed to make uh comments at this time, right?

Not ask questions.

No, still questions.

Oh, still questions?

We're gonna have we're gonna have six minutes and four minutes of comments after we close the public hearing, but we're still in public hearing.

I'm not gonna mess it up again.

I will I'll give time back.

Sorry.

Sorry.

You can talk to staff about something, but not not up here.

Questions go that way.

Commissioner Huey.

I'm giving back my time.

Okay.

Very good.

Commissioner Chase.

No, thank you.

All right.

All right, Mr.

Obley, good news.

I'm gonna pull you back up because I have five more minutes.

Start my timer, please.

All right.

So uh what it what is your current uh zoning if you know?

I believe it's I2.

Okay.

Um what is your address?

139 Gambler.

All right.

Do you know what your proposed zoning is?

L1, I believe.

Or whatever, light industrial.

Light industrial?

Yeah.

Well hell.

I mean that's what Mr.

Christensen's asking for.

Uh no.

Okay.

Um can we check 1139 Gimbler, please?

13.

139, excuse me.

That's correct.

They are uh request or we're recommending L.

Okay.

All right.

Um that may be as good as we can go for you.

But or at least we'll see what happens.

But um, you know, and does L allow them to do the kind of uh storage or shipping that they are talking about?

I apologize.

Sorry.

Um for the Gimbler, his properties.

139 Gimbler.

What we have suggested basically should match what is on the site.

Okay.

Could you repeat the question?

I'm sorry.

Yeah.

What what is the current zoning for 139 Gimbler?

I2.

Okay.

What is the plan under this large area rezoning?

Recommending L light industrial.

Okay.

Uh what someone tell me what light industrial does.

Light industrial it provides a mix of light manufacturing uses, office park, flex base, and limited retail and service uh service uses.

Okay.

And looking at again the base zoning handout, the last one is moving company.

Is that what Central Transport seems to be doing?

I believe we gave we were recommending L for warehousing was sort of the category that we were putting this under.

Okay.

But it doesn't matter if it's base zoning L, right?

Correct.

Anything.

Anything that's allowed under L.

Of concern is when you go I2, it does say major transportation hub or something like that.

Or we're freight terminal, right?

You know, ships come on and freight stored on on our trucks.

We don't here's what I'm gonna recommend.

Uh I don't know what what the motion is gonna be.

I don't know what it is, but again, we're a recommending body, and so it's probably worth talking to staff uh, you know, either Miss Lyell or Mr.

Wilson uh after this meeting and see if we can make sure that we're getting you what you need to keep going, and if not, try to find a way to get it there before it goes to council.

Thank you.

All right, thank you, Mr.

Obley.

All right.

Patrick, Mr.

Christensen, excuse me.

Yes, Commissioner.

All right.

Since you make up about 16 percent, or your client does of these properties.

Convince me why you should get L, like Mr.

Obloy.

Okay, I'll convince you.

I'll try.

I'm not saying you'll be successful.

I it's it's a little I'm not knocking staff here.

It's a little disingenuous when we say we're giving you zoning that allows you to do what you're doing today.

We get that anyways.

If they were to zone us R5 single family, under state law, we have non-conforming rights to do what we're doing today.

Can I stop you there, real?

Sure.

You're the boss.

But that's that's grandfathered in at that point, right?

So if you quit doing it, then it's immediately back to the base zoning.

Correct.

Okay.

But Logan doesn't want us to use the word grandfather.

Uh no, he doesn't.

But he's not here right now.

That's what I picked up.

Okay, well then we can use it all we want.

You got a minute and a half to convince me.

Okay.

For a client's for an owner such as mine that owns these small 10,000, 20,000 squid warehouses.

Every time he gets a new tenant with the C2 CD for warehousing, let's say he gets a machine shop tenant.

Well then he has to come in and do a rezoning.

And they're changing the plan as well, which means whatever he asked for, you're gonna have to do a plan moment as well.

And as you know, staff doesn't like to just have one little lot within a one mile square plan uh changed.

So he's really getting it it's really hampering his ability to get future tenants and to get future certificates of occupancy for these buildings because most tenants aren't gonna want to wait for rezoning.

The rezoning is going to be incredibly difficult.

Okay.

You'd agree with me, I2 is inappropriate.

Yes.

Absolutely.

What about I one?

I one would be great, but we realize that's probably pushing it the envelope too far.

All right.

I agree with that statement.

Now give me the uh 10 or so addresses on Paulson for your client, please.

1015 Paulson.

1011 Paulson.

1102 Paulson.

1014 Paulson.

1006 Paulson, 1002 Paulson.

Am I going too fast?

Nope, go 914 Paulson, 1047 Brussels, 1039 Brussels, and 1030 Brussels.

All right.

What was the third from last 1047 Brussels?

All right.

And that is my time.

Thank you.

All right.

Ladies and gentlemen, the public hearing is now closed.

So thank you all for being here.

At this point, the zoning commission will go to Commissioner Losof to uh discussion and potential motion.

And then we will have uh deliberation regarding those.

It will be first around of six minutes per commissioner, and then potentially four minutes per commissioner thereafter.

And then we will vote on any question that is pending at that time and go from there.

It's gonna be fun.

Let's do it.

Commissioner Losef, this is a district two case to you for discussion and potential motion.

All right.

Thank you.

I'm gonna give some comments and then we'll do a motion at the end.

I have a lot of notes from today, so I'm gonna be referring to those.

Um really just want to start it by saying thank you to everyone for coming out.

I know it's a lengthy meeting and it's a random Tuesday, and you have other things to do.

But uh I think for everyone today.

Oops.

Everyone who showed up today, I think you all are here to fight for the place you call home or the place you do business.

So I really appreciate everyone coming out on on this item.

Um I also want to appreciate the folks who give some history, both staff and residents and some business owners who shared about um historical context of the neighborhood.

I think impacts of red lighting are still very much felt in this neighborhood all over the city.

Um so I'm hoping some of this conversation in the LAR can start to mitigate some of the impacts that we still see today.

Um I understand the case is really important to all the residents.

Um thank you to UHIA.

I think I got that right for sharing.

Um also appreciate the clarification on the open meetings and how it was made available to everyone in the area.

I think that's really important to have everyone have a voice.

Um I know the neighborhood in the area is one of the oldest black neighborhoods in San Antonio.

Um I also know that thanks to redlining and the industrial zoning, um, that was a deliberate action.

And um I think it's clear to pretty much everyone here.

I'll I'll speak for myself.

It's clear that industrial was never intended to be next to single family homes.

Um I think all of the neighbors who are here today um you know have a right to feel safe and healthy and you know comfortable in the place that they live in their neighborhood.

So um really hear the concerns about the environmental impact and and the other harms that come with living next to industrial.

From my understanding, this LER was resident-driven that then led to a CCR, which is why we're talking about it today.

Um I appreciate the community for sharing, engaging with nearby businesses.

I know over the years you've had some port a party next to you, which obviously got adjusted, but just dealing with the businesses that have been in the neighborhood, especially the ones that have been there a while that have been good neighbors.