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San Antonio Zoning and Land Use Session - August 21, 2025

City CouncilThursday, August 21, 2025
BodySan Antonio, Texas
SessionCity Council
DateThursday, August 21, 2025
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0:27

Okay, good afternoon.

0:29

The time is now 3 40 p.m.

0:31

on Thursday, August 21st, and the City of San Antonio's zoning and land use session is called to order.

0:38

Madam Clerk, please call the roll.

0:40

Councilmember.

0:45

Councilmember Via Gran.

0:47

Here.

0:47

Councilmember Mugia.

0:49

Present.

0:49

Councilmember Castillo.

0:52

Councilmember Galvan.

0:54

Councilmember Alerede Gavito.

0:56

Councilmember Mesa Gonzalez.

0:59

Councilmember Spears.

1:01

Here.

1:01

Councilmember White.

1:03

Mayor Jones.

1:04

Here.

1:04

Mayor, we have quorum.

1:05

Thank you, Madam Clerk.

1:08

Okay.

1:08

And nothing was withdrawn.

1:10

Great.

1:12

Uh several items to continue to September 4th meeting are items 1, 8, 9, 22, 31, 36, and 37.

1:23

Is there a motion to continue the items?

1:27

Motion made.

1:28

Second.

1:30

Madam Clerk, is anyone signed up to speak on those items?

1:34

Where's the agenda?

1:35

We do have some members of the public signed up to speak on the continued items.

1:42

Aaron Cosana.

1:45

Okay.

1:46

And this is okay Aaron Casana, followed by um Joseph Weil on item one.

1:57

Yet each have two minutes.

2:05

Yeah, you got to move to it.

2:07

Okay.

2:07

Aaron Cosana.

2:10

Okay.

2:10

Joseph Wyell.

2:16

Heber Petez.

2:18

It'll drive you crazy if you like.

2:23

Is that you, sir?

2:24

Yep.

2:27

No comment.

2:27

Okay.

2:31

Jack Finger.

2:35

Do you have another hand tonight?

2:41

Madam Mayor, another members of our illustrious San Antonio City Council.

2:48

I guess I'm the last man standing here.

2:52

The uh in this Sony session.

2:55

One item you're going to continue for a later date is uh item number one.

3:01

And this uh it's an alcohol variance and it falls in the district of Miss uh Ivellas Mesa Gonzalez.

3:11

Your district, madam.

3:13

Alcohol variants, madam, is a whereby you're not a law, you're not allowed to sell alcohol within 300 feet of a education institution, the school, high school, college, and so forth.

3:28

But uh the state law gives the city council some discretion in that regard.

3:35

And so uh Ms.

3:36

Gonzalez, um I notice that this item number one, which all of you are going to be voting upon, is uh the idea of um okay continuing the just this kicking debt kicking the can down the road regarding this alcohol uh variance over near where within 300 feet of a college the University of of Texas specifically UTSA and uh yeah right where all the all the college kids uh um good congregate so anyway Ms.

4:26

Gonzalez, I'd appreciate it if you would uh well instead of you just continuing so say say no to the idea of alcohol being sold is Ms.

4:37

Gonzalez.

4:41

Ms.

4:42

Ivalas Mesa Gonzalez.

4:45

Okay.

4:47

Thank you.

4:49

Jasmine Hadetta.

5:00

Is there any council discussion on the items to be continued?

5:07

There's a motion and a second to continue items 189, 17, 18, 22, 31, 36, and 37 to September 4th.

5:16

Please vote.

5:22

Mayor, can we clarify those numbers?

5:24

I'm so sorry.

5:25

I I thought I heard agenda item number 17 in that category.

5:30

Okay.

5:31

I just heard from the clerk, 17 has come off.

5:33

So it's one, excuse me.

5:36

17 and 18.

5:38

Okay.

5:39

It's 189, 22, 31, 36, and 37.

5:44

That's correct, yes, ma'am.

5:45

Thank you.

6:05

Okay, the motion carries.

6:10

There are several items to continue to September 18th.

6:14

Those are items 15, 16, 20, 21, and 24.

6:19

Is there a motion to continue the items?

6:23

Motion made.

6:24

Second.

6:25

Madam Clerk, is anyone signed up to speak on these items?

6:31

We have we have some folks signed up to speak on the items to be continued.

6:37

Okay.

6:38

I've got uh Kathleen Nicholas, Julian Cruz, Rolando Ramirez.

6:43

Uh please line up if you are intend to speak.

6:48

Kathleen Nicholas.

6:52

Julian Cruz.

6:54

You have two minutes, sir.

7:02

Yes, my name is Julian Cruz.

7:04

I'm an uh real estate agent here in San Antonio.

7:07

And it's in regards to the zoning for that cemetery's proposal.

7:13

And um when you see at the 200 feet uh residents around it that could really really oppose there's only like maybe eight families total.

7:30

Um there's a subdivision across from the proposed cemetery, which is Mission de Lago, which is getting a lot of uh traction into people opposing to it, but they're outside those two hundred feet.

7:45

Um so I don't know how strong their opposition would you consider that.

7:51

Um I've spoken to people along a street called Loreno Choa that kind of is directly in front in front of the what the proposed cemetery will be in the mission de Lago and few neighbors from within the 200 feet.

8:08

Those within are opposing.

8:11

Six families maybe and they're all opposing.

8:16

And um, so doing a quick research right now, you have mission burial park, San Jose Burial Park, six miles from this proposed cemetery.

8:29

Going south, you have El Carmen Cemetery, 4.5 miles from the proposed cemetery.

8:37

South side is not growing because it's dead.

8:41

North Side, you go all the way past 1604 with businesses flourishing.

8:48

South side stops at 410.

8:50

Not even then.

8:52

If you go down Roosevelt, you'll probably see a KFC, a Starbucks probably along four ten on that area.

9:02

So you can submit your comments for the record if you'd like.

9:04

Okay, thank you.

9:06

Rolando Ramirez, Jack Finger, Jasmine Hereda, Rolanda Romeras.

9:14

Are you here?

9:15

No?

9:15

Okay.

9:15

Jack Finger.

9:21

Mayor Ortiz Jones, other members of the council, once again, my name is Jack Finger, and uh one item I do wish to bring your attention regarding this proposal to cont for continuance is item number sixteen.

9:35

And uh Miss uh Via Grant, I believe this is in uh just your district number three.

9:41

Ms.

9:42

Ria Grant, this one has so many red flags on it, and for for those of you on the rest of the council, I say the same thing.

9:51

What uh prayer do the uh citizens living near there have for a decent living situation?

10:01

Both the staff and the zoning commission said they this what is it uh an oversized vehicle storage location is just is not worth it.

10:15

The uh they talk that they talk about the commercial encroachment.

10:21

They talk to talk about the higher traffic, the noise pollution and other nuisances that are going to take place if this this thing goes through.

10:30

You also have the Harlandale McCullum Neighborhood Association opposing it.

10:35

Do you need any more reasons as to why you shouldn't just oppose the thing outright instead of kicking the can down the road again?

10:47

Uh maybe if anyone else would like to say something intelligent in that regard, why not speak up as well?

10:58

I uh appreciate if y'all would at least consider that.

11:03

Thank you.

11:06

Jasmine Hidetta.

11:16

Is there any council discussion on the items to be continued?

11:24

They already made that there's a motion and uh and a second to continue items 15, 16, 20, 21, and 24 to September 18th.

11:37

Please vote.

11:39

Wait.

12:03

The motion carries.

12:05

There are items to continue to the October 2nd meeting.

12:08

Those are items 17, 18, 34, and 35.

12:12

Is there a motion to continue the items?

12:14

Motion made.

12:16

Mayor.

12:17

I'm so sorry, Mayor.

12:18

There's there's a confusion on this on the data.

12:22

17 and 18 is going to be continued to October 16th.

12:26

I apologize.

12:27

16th.

12:28

Yes, ma'am.

12:28

But agenda item number 34 and 35 will be continued to October 2nd.

12:34

Okay.

12:36

Motion made then as just read.

12:38

One second, let me just clarify that.

12:40

Items to continue to the October 2nd meeting are items 34 and 35.

12:46

Is there a motion to continue the items?

12:48

Motion made, yes, ma'am.

12:50

Second.

12:52

And on 34.

12:57

Madam Clerk, are there folks that have signed up to speak on this?

13:01

I don't have any on my list.

13:02

Okay.

13:03

No one is signed up to speak.

13:05

Is there any council discussion on the items to be continued?

13:11

There's a motion and a second to continue items 34 and 35 to October 2nd.

13:16

Please vote.

13:43

Okay.

13:43

The motion carries items to continue to October 16th are items 17 and 18.

13:51

Is there a motion to continue the items?

13:53

Motion to continue.

13:54

Second.

13:56

Madam Clerk, is anyone signed up to speak on these items?

14:00

Just one.

14:01

Yep.

14:02

Jack Finger.

14:09

Madam Mayor, other members of the council, my name is Jack Finger, and uh item number 17 and 18, Mr.

14:20

Mungia for following your district.

14:22

I uh this thing has a, I don't know if you read some of the backup documents on this particular case, sir, but uh I I I don't think I don't see any reason why you need to continue this at all, because well, let me explain something to you.

14:39

Normally when there's a downsizing, I I'm normally in favor of such a thing, you know, from commercial to residential, but uh uh not unless unless there is a situation right like you have right here.

15:00

And the proposer wants to put ri residential units into our actually, I say residential, multifamily apartments right next to this commercial business here, and that's why uh uh the staff zoning staff thought it was thought it was a bad idea.

15:15

Uh residential uses right next to the commercial uses, but also another big thing that caught my eye is this, sir.

15:22

I don't know if you saw it, but they stated that the developer has not met the agreed upon obligations in the development agreement.

15:33

In other words, you got a trust issue here, sir.

15:37

Um why not uh say say no to this one?

15:41

This is right there on uh state highway 16 on the south side there, sir.

15:46

I I think you should say instead of continuing, say say no to it right now.

15:52

Thank you.

15:56

Is there any council discussion on the items to be continued?

16:02

There's a motion and a second to continue items 17 and 18 to October 16th.

16:07

Please vote.

16:27

Okay, the motion carries.

16:48

Okay.

16:49

Um the following items are noted for individual consideration.

16:53

Um items 11, 12, and 26.

16:57

The remaining items on today's agenda will be considered on the consent agenda.

17:01

Do any council members wish to pull an item from the consent agenda to be heard individually?

17:05

I apologize, Mayor.

17:07

There are several items on individual 11, 12, 19, 25, 26, 29, and 30.

17:15

I I don't know what you have, Mayor.

17:17

I'm so sorry.

17:18

Okay.

17:20

Okay.

17:22

All right, thank you.

17:23

I apologize.

17:24

That's okay.

17:28

Okay.

17:32

The following items are listed for individual consideration.

17:35

11, 12, 19, 25, and 26, 29, and 30.

17:42

The remaining items on today's agenda will be considered on the consent agenda.

17:46

Do any council members wish to pull an item from the consent agenda to be heard individually?

17:55

Would you like to pull one?

17:57

Come on.

18:01

You would have got uh okay.

18:11

Hearing none items, uh, there are no items pulled from the consent.

18:15

Um there are I've got two people.

18:24

To consent, okay.

18:26

Uh we have four individuals signed up uh to speak on the consent agenda.

18:31

Uh Rene Ruiz, no comments at the calling today.

18:41

So no speak.

18:42

Okay.

18:42

Um Jack Finger.

18:50

Yes, Madam Mayor.

18:51

Uh my name is once again is Jack Finger, and uh I wish to speak to you about a couple items on the consent agenda that you're about to allow to sail through.

19:00

One of them is item number six, and this is in uh Ms.

19:04

Msukar.

19:05

This is in your your district there.

19:07

You know, um I was on the committee that uh dealt with this very issue, and uh it was a pretty pretty tough case.

19:15

Uh uh the uh eventually decided that that it was worth allowing the proposer to uh go ahead with this, but uh uh there was still still quite some discussion and uh uh about it.

19:33

The concerns the fact that four units being uh shoehorned into this little area here is is going to make it very dense, excessively dense, and that you really shouldn't have any more than two units there.

20:00

Quite frankly, I think uh I wish you would uh offer an amendment to change it from two from from four down to two so that uh all of us living around the area don't have to deal with the problems that excessive density causes for the neighborhood there.

20:10

So yes, right there on on West French Street there.

20:15

Thank you.

20:21

Jasmine Hitada.

20:32

Is there a motion to approve the consent agenda items except for the items listed on individual and pulled items?

20:38

Which sorry make a motion to approve.

20:41

Okay.

20:43

Is there any council discussion on the items on the consent agenda?

20:51

That concludes council discussion on the consent agenda.

20:53

Public comment has been heard.

20:55

There's a motion and second to approve the consent agenda, which are items two and three, four, five, six, seven, ten, thirteen, fourteen, twenty-three, twenty-seven, twenty-eight, thirty-two, and thirty-three.

21:17

Please vote.

21:30

Motion carries.

21:32

We have items to hear individually.

21:35

Agenda item number 11 and 12 is amending the San Antonio International Airport Vicinity Land Use Plan from neighborhood commercial to community commercial from R5 and C3NA to C2NA C D with a conditional use for oversized vehicles, service, and storage.

21:53

Located at 422 Heart Line Drive.

21:56

Staff recommends denial, planning and zoning commission recommends approval.

21:59

The applicant has submitted an amended site plan.

22:02

39 notices are mailed, eight in favor, and three opposed.

22:12

Thank you.

22:12

We have one um individual signed up to speak.

22:14

Jack Finger Mayor Jones, other members of the council, once again, I'm Jack Finger, and this particular item is in uh well Mr.

22:30

Castillo Angiano's district.

22:33

Yes, Mr.

22:34

Alghiano.

22:35

Um I was looking at this particular one.

22:39

And the reason the uh zoning staff thought this was a bad idea is because the uh the as they say the oversized vehicle service and storage that's going to take place on this the street.

22:54

Normally that would be okay if you had a bigger uh street, a boulevard, main artery or something, but this is on a tiny but residential street, little little heartline drive here, and they see the problems of it congesting the uh the that street with no buffers for the residents, meaning uh you have a big uh business dealing with oversized trucks get going in and out, and the people who have to live next to it have to suffer with all of that there uh needlessly.

23:29

So uh, I think uh I think you do well if for all the residents in that area and for the rest of your district if you just simply say uh we're not gonna go ahead with this uh travesty here.

23:44

Thank you.

23:47

Items 11 and 12 are in district two.

23:49

Councilmember Castellano Angiana is recognized.

23:52

Thank you, Mayor.

23:53

Um items number 11 and 12 at 422 Heartline are on today's uh individual agenda due to staff's denial.

23:59

Are or yeah, our applicant, the longtime property owner is making an effort to reconcile their property zoning to achieve zoning uniformity.

24:08

They've also amended their original site plan to include concessions in consideration of their residential neighbors as well as documenting their support.

24:16

Given so I will be motioning to approve.

24:19

Second.

24:23

Is there any other council discussion?

24:28

Okay, just want to clarify that's motion to approve as amended.

24:32

Thank you.

24:35

There's a motion and second to approve as amended items 11 and 12.

24:39

Please vote.

24:55

The motion the motion carries.

24:58

The next item is uh number 19.

25:01

Agenda number 19 is a rezoning from MF 25 and R5 to C2 C D with the condition used for auto and light truck auction and C2, located at 13527 Southwest Loop 410.

25:16

Staff and zoning commission recommend approval with the following conditions.

25:19

Hours of operation are from 8 a.m.

25:21

to 6 p.m.

25:23

Type E, 30-foot landscape buffer yard along property lines abutting residential single family uses, downward facing lighting to prevent light pollution into abutting residential properties.

25:34

32 notices meld, four in favor, zero opposed, and outside the 200-foot boundary, 90 are in favor.

25:43

There is no one signed up for public comment.

25:45

Item number 19 is in district four.

25:47

Council Member Munghia is recognized.

25:49

Motion to approve with conditions as read.

25:53

Is there any other council discussion?

26:00

There's a motion and second to approve.

26:03

Number 19, please vote.

26:27

Motion carries.

26:28

The next items are 25 and 26.

26:30

Agenda item number 25 and 26, amending the West Sector Plan from suburban tier to specialized center from R6 to I1, located at 7626 Grissom Road.

26:41

Staff recommends a denial with an alternate recommendation for C2 C D with the condition used for construction trades contractor.

26:48

Planning Commission and Zoning Commission recommend approval as the applicant submitted.

26:52

17 notices mailed, one in favor, zero opposed.

26:56

Thank you.

26:57

Items 25 and 26 are in district six.

26:59

Councilmember Galvan is recognized to speak.

27:04

Thank you, Mayor.

27:04

Motion to approve.

27:07

Is there any other council discussion?

27:11

Oh apologies.

27:13

Yeah, Mayor.

27:13

I think there might be a public comment.

27:16

One second.

27:28

Oh Jack Finger, my apologies.

27:30

You've signed up for 26.

27:31

Thank you.

27:37

Madam Mayor, other members of the council, once again, I'm Jack Finger and uh Mr.

27:41

Galvon.

27:42

This is in your district.

27:44

I don't know if you read the uh the documents, sir, but uh zoning staff thought this was a bad idea.

27:52

Why?

27:53

Well, the industrial use, supposedly, is fairly close to all the residences there.

28:02

Not much of a buffer.

28:05

They have to live right next to this industrial use.

28:11

Why not uh at the very least you could continue this and see if the the if the residents really enjoy living next to an industrial use there?

28:24

But you really uh I don't think you should just go ahead and willy-nilly, as they say, go ahead and and just approve it because there are people who are going to not only live there but may want to live there in the future, and uh they have to live next to a very inappropriate uh uh company.

28:54

So uh I appreciate if you would change your mind, sir, and so say no to this one.

28:59

Thank you.

29:02

Okay, items 25 and 26 are in district six.

29:05

Councilmember Gauvana is recognized to speak.

29:09

Thank you, Mayor.

29:10

Motion to approve the item.

29:13

Any other council discussion?

29:17

There's a motion and second to approve items 25 and 26.

29:20

Please vote.

29:29

Motion carries.

29:31

The next item is number 29 and 30.

29:34

Amending the UTSA area regional center plan from low density residential to community commercial from R6 to C2 C D with a condition of use for a warehouse located at 6131 Daisavala Road.

29:48

Staff and Zoning Commission recommend approval with the following conditions.

29:52

Vehicular access off only off Daisavala Road, type D, 25-foot buffer along property lines that abut single family residential uses.

30:02

Hours of operation from 8 a.m.

30:04

to 6 p.m.

30:05

Monday through Friday, unless there is an emergency event.

30:10

Downward lighting to prevent light pollution and abutting residential properties.

30:15

Six-foot fence on rare and rare sides of properties to respect existing gates.

30:20

No outside amplification.

30:22

There's 68 notices that were mailed, one in favor, two opposed, and outside the 200 foot bounty boundary, two were also opposed.

30:32

Item number 29 and 30 are in district eight.

30:34

Council member Mesil Gonzalez is recognized.

30:36

Thank you, Mayor.

30:37

Motion to approve with conditions as stated.

30:40

Second.

30:41

Any other council discussion.

30:48

There's a motion and second to approve as stated.

30:51

Item number 29 and 30.

30:53

Please vote.

31:18

Okay, the motion carries.

31:20

That concludes today's zoning and land use session.

31:22

The time is 411 and the meeting is now adjourned.

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Summary of Proceedings

San Antonio Zoning and Land Use Session - August 21, 2025

The City of San Antonio’s Zoning and Land Use session was called to order at 3:40 PM on Thursday, August 21, 2025, with a quorum present. The meeting addressed several continuations, a consent agenda, and individual items, including rezoning and conditional use permits. Public comments were heard on multiple items.

Consent Calendar

  • Items 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 10, 13, 14, 23, 27, 28, 32, and 33 were approved unanimously on the consent agenda.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • On continued items (September 4): Aaron Cosana, Joseph Wyell, and Heber Petez spoke on item 1 (alcohol variance near UTSA). Jack Finger urged the council to deny the variance rather than continue it, citing state law discretion and proximity to a college.
  • On continued items (September 18): Julian Cruz, a real estate agent, opposed the proposed cemetery (items 15, 16, 20, 21, 24), noting that only about six families within 200 feet opposed it, while a larger subdivision (Mission de Lago) was outside the notification boundary. He argued the south side does not need another cemetery. Jack Finger opposed item 16 (oversized vehicle storage in District 3), citing staff and zoning commission concerns about commercial encroachment, traffic, noise, and opposition from the Harlandale McCullum Neighborhood Association.
  • On continued items (October 16): Jack Finger opposed items 17 and 18 (rezoning for multifamily near commercial, District 4), arguing the developer had not met agreed obligations in the development agreement, creating a trust issue, and that placing residential units next to commercial uses was a bad idea.
  • On consent agenda: Jack Finger spoke on item 6 (West French Street), stating that four units were excessively dense for the area and should be reduced to two units.
  • On individual items: Jack Finger opposed items 11 and 12 (Heart Line Drive), noting staff’s denial due to oversized vehicle service/storage on a tiny residential street causing congestion and lack of buffers. He also opposed items 25 and 26 (Grissom Road), arguing industrial use would be too close to residences without adequate buffer.

Discussion Items

  • Continuations: The council approved the following continuations:
    • Items 1, 8, 9, 22, 31, 36, 37 to September 4, 2025.
    • Items 15, 16, 20, 21, 24 to September 18, 2025.
    • Items 34, 35 to October 2, 2025.
    • Items 17, 18 to October 16, 2025.
  • Items 11 and 12 (422 Heart Line Drive): Rezoning from R5 and C3NA to C2NA C.D. with a conditional use for oversized vehicle service/storage. Staff recommended denial; Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval. The applicant amended the site plan with concessions. 39 notices mailed: 8 in favor, 3 opposed. Councilmember Castellano Angiana (District 2) moved to approve as amended. Motion carried.
  • Item 19 (13527 Southwest Loop 410): Rezoning from MF-25 and R5 to C2 C.D. with conditional use for auto/light truck auction. Staff and Zoning Commission recommended approval with conditions (hours 8 AM–6 PM, 30-foot buffer, downward lighting). 32 notices mailed: 4 in favor, 0 opposed; outside 200-foot boundary: 90 in favor. Councilmember Mungia (District 4) moved to approve with conditions. Motion carried.
  • Items 25 and 26 (7626 Grissom Road): Rezoning from R6 to I1, amending the West Sector Plan. Staff recommended denial with alternate recommendation for C2 C.D. with conditional use for construction trades contractor. Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval as submitted. 17 notices mailed: 1 in favor, 0 opposed. Councilmember Galvan (District 6) moved to approve. Motion carried.
  • Items 29 and 30 (6131 Daisavala Road): Rezoning from R6 to C2 C.D. with conditional use for a warehouse, amending the UTSA Area Regional Center Plan. Staff and Zoning Commission recommended approval with conditions (access off Daisavala only, 25-foot buffer, hours 8 AM–6 PM Monday–Friday, downward lighting, 6-foot fence, no outside amplification). 68 notices mailed: 1 in favor, 2 opposed; outside 200-foot boundary: 2 opposed. Councilmember Mesa Gonzalez (District 8) moved to approve with conditions. Motion carried.

Key Outcomes

  • All continuation motions passed unanimously.
  • Consent agenda (items 2–7, 10, 13, 14, 23, 27, 28, 32, 33) approved.
  • Items 11 and 12 approved as amended (staff denial overridden).
  • Item 19 approved with conditions.
  • Items 25 and 26 approved (staff denial overridden).
  • Items 29 and 30 approved with conditions.
  • Meeting adjourned at 4:11 PM.

Meeting Transcript

Okay, good afternoon. The time is now 3 40 p.m. on Thursday, August 21st, and the City of San Antonio's zoning and land use session is called to order. Madam Clerk, please call the roll. Councilmember. Councilmember Via Gran. Here. Councilmember Mugia. Present. Councilmember Castillo. Councilmember Galvan. Councilmember Alerede Gavito. Councilmember Mesa Gonzalez. Councilmember Spears. Here. Councilmember White. Mayor Jones. Here. Mayor, we have quorum. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Okay. And nothing was withdrawn. Great. Uh several items to continue to September 4th meeting are items 1, 8, 9, 22, 31, 36, and 37. Is there a motion to continue the items? Motion made. Second. Madam Clerk, is anyone signed up to speak on those items? Where's the agenda? We do have some members of the public signed up to speak on the continued items. Aaron Cosana. Okay. And this is okay Aaron Casana, followed by um Joseph Weil on item one. Yet each have two minutes. Yeah, you got to move to it. Okay. Aaron Cosana. Okay. Joseph Wyell. Heber Petez. It'll drive you crazy if you like. Is that you, sir? Yep. No comment. Okay. Jack Finger. Do you have another hand tonight? Madam Mayor, another members of our illustrious San Antonio City Council. I guess I'm the last man standing here. The uh in this Sony session.

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