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Budget and Government Efficiency Committee Meeting - March 5, 2025

Budget & Government Efficiency CommitteeWednesday, March 5, 2025
BodySan Diego, California
SessionBudget & Government Efficiency Committee
DateWednesday, March 5, 2025
StatusFILED
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5:36

All right, good morning.

5:37

And welcome to the budget and government efficiency committee meeting of March 5th, 2025.

5:42

Our committee liaison Natalie Kessler will provide information and instruction for the public to participate in today's meeting.

5:49

Thank you, Chair.

5:50

While members of the public are able to attend the meetings in person, this meeting is being televised and live streamed on the city's website, and the council administration will continue to make arrangements for the public to comment using the Zoom webinar platform.

5:59

Members of the public who wish to provide virtual testimony must enter the virtual queue by raising their hand before the virtual queue closes.

6:04

The queue will close when the last virtual speaker finishes speaking or five minutes after in-person testimony ends, whichever occurs first.

6:10

This will allow for better meeting management between the two platforms and ensure the committee is able to manage and conduct city business.

6:16

We appreciate the public's cooperation.

6:18

Chair.

6:27

Natalie, please call the role.

6:28

Vice Chair Marino.

6:30

Present.

6:31

Council President Pro Tem Lee.

6:33

Here.

6:33

Councilmember Elo Rivera.

6:35

Present.

6:35

And Chair, Councilmember Foster.

6:37

Here.

6:37

Also attending the meeting today is Charles Mattica and Lisa Byrne from the Office of the Independent Budget Analysts, Deputy City Attorney David Powell from the City Attorney's Office, Matt Vesby, Chief Financial Officer, Matt Yayagin, Director of Policy for Mayor Todd Gloria, and Chandra Claddy, committee consultant.

6:52

If you're in person, please complete a speaker slip located at the entrance of the committee room and place it on the top of the box indicated at the speaker's left and at the front of the room.

6:58

Please do so in a timely manner to ensure proper meeting management.

7:01

In-person testimony will conclude before virtual testimony begins.

7:04

And members of the public can join the webinar by computer, tablet, or smartphone by accessing the link, which is listed online in the preamble language of the agenda on the city's webpage.

7:11

If you need to participate by telephone, please dial 1669-2545252.

7:16

The webinar ID is 161-771-0317 pound.

7:20

This information is also available on the agenda and will appear on the screen during the public comment period for each agenda item.

7:26

Please note that if you're watching via City TV Channel 24 or online, there may be a delay, so please participate via the audio on your phone and mute your TV or computer when it is your turn to speak.

7:36

If you wish to speak on a particular item, wait for that item to be called and then raise your hand to speak by tapping the raise your hand icon.

7:41

Or if you're a call-in participant, please press star nine on your phone.

7:45

If you raise your hand during a non-comment period, your hand will be lowered.

7:49

Chair.

7:52

Thank you, Natalie, for reviewing those instructions for the benefit of the public.

7:57

A quorum is now present.

7:59

We will now take up non-agenda public comment.

8:02

The council members respect and appreciate the public's input and are fully committed to protecting every participant's free speech right to council and committee meetings.

8:10

Natalie, please proceed with non-agenda public comment.

8:13

Per rule 2.7, non-agenda public comment is an opportunity for members of the public to comment on items that are not on the agenda but within the subject matter jurisdiction of the committee.

8:21

Each speaker will have two minutes, and we have not received any speaker slips from any from any individuals in the committee room.

8:27

So we will now move to the virtual queue.

8:29

I've started the five-minute timer for all those in the virtual queue to indicate that they have an on-agenda public comment.

8:38

Madison, please begin.

8:41

Hi, good morning, Chair and members of the committee.

8:57

And by extension, our city.

10:00

The governor's task force is actively working to combat these issues, but the scale of the problem necessitates continued and focused attention at the local level.

10:06

Therefore, I urge this committee to recognize the significant financial impact of the illegal cannabis market on San Diego's budget.

10:13

Support and enhance local law enforcement efforts to combat illegal cannabis operations.

10:19

Advocate for continued collaboration with state and federal agencies to address the issue and consider the health risks to the citizens of San Diego that are caused by the illegal market.

10:29

Thank you for your time.

10:31

Thank you.

10:32

Next is Becky Rapp.

10:34

Becky Rapp, please begin.

10:39

Good morning, Chair Foster and Council members.

10:42

My name is Becky Rapp, and I'm here to speak to you regarding the city's ability to effectively collect taxes from the marijuana businesses in the city.

10:52

As the city looks at the budget and considers cutting departments and programs in an effort to balance a very difficult budget.

11:00

I would encourage you to first request a full and transparent audit of the marijuana industry and businesses selling pot in our city.

11:08

The city chose to permit marijuana businesses expecting to bring significant revenue to the city, but it's been proven that collecting taxes hasn't been as simple and streamlined as it was intended to be.

11:22

The city has faced significant challenges in tax collection.

11:26

And as of now, many pot shops and delivery services can continue to operate without paying their fair share.

11:34

One main concern is the lack of proper um oversight and regulation, leading to instances where marijuana businesses underreport their sales or evade taxes entirely.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Procurement████████████████████████████28%
Equal Opportunity Contracting██████████████████████████26%
Public Comment█████████9%
Procedural████████8%
Fleet Management█████5%
Contractor Accountability████4%
Water And Wastewater Management███3%
Public Utilities███3%
Stormwater Management███3%
Summary of Proceedings

Budget and Government Efficiency Committee Meeting - March 5, 2025

The Budget and Government Efficiency Committee met on March 5, 2025, to consider a consent agenda, a discussion item on a contract amendment for equipment rental, and an informational item on the fiscal year 2024 business diversity annual report. The committee also heard non-agenda public comment on topics including cannabis tax collection, water rates, and the structural budget deficit. All votes were unanimous.

Consent Calendar

  • Approved the committee minutes from February 5, 2025.
  • Approved an ordinance approving a six-month extension to an agreement with NeoGov for recruitment and applicant tracking software.
  • Approved an ordinance authorizing an extension of the end-of-life computer hardware donation program with the San Diego Futures Foundation and authorizing execution of the First Amendment to the contract.
  • Motion passed 4-0.

Public Comments & Testimony

Non-Agenda Public Comment:

  • A speaker (name not provided) urged the committee to recognize the financial impact of the illegal cannabis market, support local law enforcement efforts, and consider health risks to citizens.
  • Becky Rapp encouraged the city to request a full and transparent audit of the marijuana industry, citing challenges in tax collection and underreporting.
  • Blair Beekman expressed hope for good policy practices and discussed the need to address "ghostwater" issues and subsidy planning with the water department.
  • A speaker (phone number ending in 870) discussed the structural budget deficit from an algorithm perspective, linking sales tax decreases to algorithmic entrenchment.
  • A speaker (the original) criticized the water rate increase, arguing that large entities skip paying water bills while small families face shutoffs, and called for more council members to stand up for constituents.
  • Judy Strang expressed concern about employment opportunities for young adults (ages 18-25), noting they have not returned to full employment post-COVID, citing mental health issues and substance use (particularly marijuana).

Consent Agenda Public Comment:

  • Phone number ending in 870 spoke in favor of all three consent items, praising the handling of minutes, the NeoGov extension, and the computer donation program.
  • The original speaker commented on all three items: requested more descriptive minutes reflecting speakers' feelings, raised concerns about overlapping contracts for NeoGov, and questioned the transparency of San Diego Futures Foundation, asking for more information on their finances and equipment distribution process.

Discussion Item 5 (HERC Rentals):

  • Cesar Javier (in-person) commented that rentals are used to save time and resources, and asked for the balance sheet.
  • Phone number ending in 870 expressed disappointment that item 4 was pulled, and urged attention to essential needs and budget appropriations.
  • The original speaker expressed concern about fraud, waste, and abuse, questioning the repeated contract extensions and the high spending increases, suggesting the city could have purchased vehicles instead.

Discussion Item 6 (Business Diversity Report):

  • Phone number ending in 870 asked about policies on race and equity regarding contracting, and called for an expert to advance equity work.
  • The original speaker criticized DEI efforts, claiming they promote racism, and asked for a race and gender neutral tool, asserting that hiring should be based on merit.

Discussion Items

Item 5: Seventh Amendment to Cooperative Agreement with HERC Rentals Inc.

  • Staff presented a request to increase expenditure authority by $9 million (total $41.3 million) for equipment rental and related services, highlighting that the contract is used citywide, primarily by Environmental Services, Parks and Recreation, Public Utilities, Transportation, and Stormwater departments. Reasons for rentals include new staff without vehicles, delayed vehicle orders, emergency needs, and temporary projects.
  • The Independent Budget Analyst (IBA) noted that without the increase, only about $850,000 would remain, and recommended evaluating vehicle procurement practices to reduce reliance on leases. The IBA also suggested comparing terms with an alternative cooperative contract (Sourcewell).
  • Councilmember Ilo Rivera made a motion to approve staff's recommendation with an amendment requesting staff work with the IBA and impacted unions to develop a financial and operational cost-benefit analysis comparing leasing versus purchasing light to heavy duty vehicles and equipment, with a presentation to the committee by the end of the year.
  • Councilmember Lee seconded the motion, noting the need to understand the strategy for in-house maintenance and fleet management.
  • Councilmember Moreno discussed the city's fleet maintenance audit, noting only 20% of preventive maintenance was on time, and asked for data on the cost and duration of rentals related to repair delays. She supported the motion and requested the analysis be incorporated.
  • Councilmember Foster noted that the carve-out provision for local vehicle purchases may be brought to committee later.
  • The motion passed 4-0.

Item 6: Fiscal Year 2024 Business Diversity Annual Report (Informational)

  • Staff presented the annual report, showing that in FY24, the city awarded $116.9 million to SLBE/ELBE firms out of $704.1 million in city-funded contracts. The city's aspirational goal for SLBE participation was 20% and was met. However, minority and women-owned businesses accounted for 11% ($109.1 million) of all city contracts ($949.8 million), compared to a 31% aspirational goal. Staff noted a discrepancy in the report: the value for SLBE awards should be $116.9 million, not $113.2 million.
  • Staff highlighted enhancements: creation of a citywide aspirational goal (15% for FY25), revision of income caps, and ongoing collaboration with the Department of Race and Equity for oversight.
  • Councilmember Foster expressed concern about the decline in certified firms (from 600 to 400), the lack of action attached to the report, and the need for accountability at the department head level. He noted that small business participation is crucial for competition and sustainability of the capital improvement program.
  • Councilmember Ilo Rivera asked about accountability for meeting goals and the intersection with the Department of Race and Equity. Staff responded that they are partnering with Race and Equity for oversight, but the work is still developing. Councilmember Ilo Rivera also expressed frustration with contractor performance, specifically a project in City Heights, and noted that lack of accountability blocks opportunities for diverse businesses.
  • Councilmember Foster asked if department heads have performance evaluations tied to small business contracting goals; staff indicated they do not, which he noted as a potential issue.
  • No action was taken on the informational item.

Key Outcomes

  • Approved consent agenda (items 1-3) unanimously (4-0).
  • Approved item 5 (HERC Rentals contract amendment) with an amendment to develop a cost-benefit analysis of leasing vs. purchasing vehicles and equipment, with a presentation to the committee by end of 2025. Vote: 4-0.
  • Item 6 was received as information; no vote taken.
  • Item 4 on the discussion agenda was returned to staff.
  • The next regularly scheduled meeting is April 16, 2025, at 9 a.m.

Meeting Transcript

All right, good morning. And welcome to the budget and government efficiency committee meeting of March 5th, 2025. Our committee liaison Natalie Kessler will provide information and instruction for the public to participate in today's meeting. Thank you, Chair. While members of the public are able to attend the meetings in person, this meeting is being televised and live streamed on the city's website, and the council administration will continue to make arrangements for the public to comment using the Zoom webinar platform. Members of the public who wish to provide virtual testimony must enter the virtual queue by raising their hand before the virtual queue closes. The queue will close when the last virtual speaker finishes speaking or five minutes after in-person testimony ends, whichever occurs first. This will allow for better meeting management between the two platforms and ensure the committee is able to manage and conduct city business. We appreciate the public's cooperation. Chair. Natalie, please call the role. Vice Chair Marino. Present. Council President Pro Tem Lee. Here. Councilmember Elo Rivera. Present. And Chair, Councilmember Foster. Here. Also attending the meeting today is Charles Mattica and Lisa Byrne from the Office of the Independent Budget Analysts, Deputy City Attorney David Powell from the City Attorney's Office, Matt Vesby, Chief Financial Officer, Matt Yayagin, Director of Policy for Mayor Todd Gloria, and Chandra Claddy, committee consultant. If you're in person, please complete a speaker slip located at the entrance of the committee room and place it on the top of the box indicated at the speaker's left and at the front of the room. Please do so in a timely manner to ensure proper meeting management. In-person testimony will conclude before virtual testimony begins. And members of the public can join the webinar by computer, tablet, or smartphone by accessing the link, which is listed online in the preamble language of the agenda on the city's webpage. If you need to participate by telephone, please dial 1669-2545252. The webinar ID is 161-771-0317 pound. This information is also available on the agenda and will appear on the screen during the public comment period for each agenda item. Please note that if you're watching via City TV Channel 24 or online, there may be a delay, so please participate via the audio on your phone and mute your TV or computer when it is your turn to speak. If you wish to speak on a particular item, wait for that item to be called and then raise your hand to speak by tapping the raise your hand icon. Or if you're a call-in participant, please press star nine on your phone. If you raise your hand during a non-comment period, your hand will be lowered. Chair. Thank you, Natalie, for reviewing those instructions for the benefit of the public. A quorum is now present. We will now take up non-agenda public comment. The council members respect and appreciate the public's input and are fully committed to protecting every participant's free speech right to council and committee meetings. Natalie, please proceed with non-agenda public comment. Per rule 2.7, non-agenda public comment is an opportunity for members of the public to comment on items that are not on the agenda but within the subject matter jurisdiction of the committee. Each speaker will have two minutes, and we have not received any speaker slips from any from any individuals in the committee room. So we will now move to the virtual queue. I've started the five-minute timer for all those in the virtual queue to indicate that they have an on-agenda public comment. Madison, please begin. Hi, good morning, Chair and members of the committee. And by extension, our city. The governor's task force is actively working to combat these issues, but the scale of the problem necessitates continued and focused attention at the local level. Therefore, I urge this committee to recognize the significant financial impact of the illegal cannabis market on San Diego's budget. Support and enhance local law enforcement efforts to combat illegal cannabis operations. Advocate for continued collaboration with state and federal agencies to address the issue and consider the health risks to the citizens of San Diego that are caused by the illegal market. Thank you for your time. Thank you.

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