Thank you, Council President.

Councilmember Campbell.

Councilmember Whitburn.

Here.

Councilmember Foster.

Here.

Councilmember Von Wilper.

Council President Pro Temley.

Councilmember Campillo.

Here.

Councilmember Moreno.

Present.

Councilmember Ila Rivera.

And Council President Lacava.

Present.

Also attending the meeting are City Attorney Heather Ferber, independent budget analyst Charles Matica, Council of Affairs Advisor and the Mayor's Office, Coda Zeiser, and myself your city clerk, Deanna Fuentes.

Thank you, Council President.

Thank you, City Clerk.

Quorum is now present.

We will begin this morning with an invocation by Clerk Quentus, followed with the land acknowledgement and the pledge of allegiance led by Councilmember Campillo.

Grant those who hold office in this city the spirit of wisdom, charity, and justice, that with steadfast purpose they may faithfully serve in their offices to promote the well-being of all people.

Hand over your heart.

Ready?

Indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

That's accurate.

Dispensation is not the right word to speak um generically about the closed session agenda.

And specifically the item.

I think we heard confirmation from the city attorney, and I wish I had the power for dispensation, but you can return for non-public honor to call in.

Thank you.

Thank you, sir.

I'm sorry, the five-minute timer going to those participating remotely, starting with the original.

If you can please unmute and let me know which item or items you wish to speak to.

You'll have three minutes, please proceed.

All right.

So with the first one, it's a uh slip and fall that happened in January 2022 in a grassy area and Pacific Beach.

Um, you know, the problem with you guys and your closed session is that we wind up paying out these settlements much of the time that we see on um, you know, the Tuesday uh meeting agenda.

Um, and yet you report back saying that you know nothing is taking place.

So I'm wondering, you know, are you going to be you know engaging in a settlement?

We're gonna be paying, you know, potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars that you always report that nothing happened, and then the only way we find out is through it showing up on the agenda as a settlement payout.

So I think you guys need to, when you're doing this, really think about uh providing the public with information, especially when a decision like that's been made, so that it's not as though we have to find out when the item comes um and is being paid out to the individual that's um engaged in the litigation.

And um for the second one is this um a police officer who um I guess was reporting um other police officers engaging in discrimination for giving jaywalking tickets, one to a black man and refusing to do it to the white guy, and then you know, this woman didn't get a promotion and was you know having sexually um harassing comments made to her.

Um so I mean I think we need to be making sure that this kind of stuff isn't happening.

But you know, many times we find whenever there's any kind of whistleblower actions that take place, there is retaliation, and you know, um it doesn't you know leave people with a you know uh a desire to want to do that when you know they're the ones that are attacked for trying to expose fraud waste and abuse.

Um, but we know it happens every day, and so you guys need to be making sure that not only um you know if there's a settlement that needs to happen, but that policies need to change and um things moving forward need to get better so that um that doesn't happen.

And with the other one, this employment, this is with um um housing or or I don't know, something like that.

And so this one's a little bit more um, you know, there's not as much information.

So I think even in the Jennifer Gregory one, you could have put that um you know, more information regarding what the situation was.

I feel like you guys sometimes it's a little ambiguous, and I mean, obviously, we don't want uh race discrimination or any kind of hostile work environments.

Um, but I think that if you guys could put a little bit of more information so that the public has it again for transparency when you know it's our money that's being spent for these settlements, um, you know, as much information as possible needs to be provided so that we can also put in our opinion um to help you guys make your decision, even though you don't make your decisions off of what we say.

You've already decided them, but at least it would look good to the people.

Your time has concluded.

Lori Saldano, if you can please let me know which item or items you wish to speak to.

Uh good morning, council members.

Yes, I I'd like to speak to each of the three items this morning.

You have three minutes, please proceed.

Um, thank you.

And let me also say I appreciate that the Zoom link is back on the agenda for closed session.

It was missing uh at a prior meeting.

Uh, regarding the first case, the uh slip and fall.

I I always use this opportunity to remind listeners um that uh a slip and fall, especially for a person with a disability, an older person, can be not only life ending, but certainly life-changing.

And uh you do routinely manage these litigation issues, and I I think it's it's worth discussing the fact that a member of my family slipped, fell, was misdiagnosed, and ended up um dying a few months after the initial injury because they missed uh the severity of the injury that occurred.

So this is these falls are life changing, not just for the person involved, but for the family and everyone who cares about them.

And I wish the city would take more time to discuss safety issues related to that.

Regarding uh the police officer Jennifer Gregory, it takes tremendous courage to seek this type of justice as an officer, uh, no matter what your background.

And in the case of uh a woman uh on the police department, I think we have seen as a result, for example, of the thousands of sexual assault cases that were not investigated and the hundreds of CODIS tits that went uh that was just a timer in chambers.

Continue.

Thank you.

That there is systemic uh bias and discrimination in the police department.

Uh I recently spent time with uh former San Diego police sergeant.

She served for 20 years, she created the city's first domestic violence case, and she is now writing her memoirs.

And I will say that the police department is not going to look very good, and that systemic and persistent discrimination and bias needs to be addressed.

And I I appreciate the courage that Officer Gregory is displaying and coming forward.

And somewhat related to that is item three, where again we have a woman from uh an African American woman according to the description, former assistance center director in the park and recreation department.

My first employment with the city of San Diego was when I was a recreation leader.

And I will say that I am not surprised that she experienced uh race discrimination, hostile work environment, harassment, retaliation, and failure to prevent discrimination.

Um, because I experienced all those things as a teenager in the recreation center where I worked.

And at that time, many years ago, there were no avenues for me to file formal complaints and seek, and it at that time these were issues that were not only confusing to me as a very young person, but um there were just no ways to to address them.

I encourage you to address this and the police department's systemic problems with bias and discrimination.

Your time has concluded.

Thank you for that concluding remark.

That does include public comment on closed session items.

All right, thank you, Clerk.

With that, we will now recess into closed session and reconvene council today at 2 p.m.

or shortly thereafter.

Parks, restaurants, and they're connected to the rest of the city by some major transit corridors.

The transformation of the site into an intergenerational community with a total of about 400 housing units is truly remarkable.

The units that have already come online for seniors, the units that we're celebrating today, and the units to come are going to continue to be a core piece of how we change our community and we develop housing.

This is the way it should be done.

Too many in our neighborhoods have been pushed to the margins, forced to endure housing insecurity and displacement.

That is unacceptable.

Housing is not a privilege, it is a human right.

And with this project and the many more that we have down the pipeline.

We are at a turning point.

For the city of San Diego, this project represents exactly the kind of partnership that we have worked to try and scale citywide.

Policies like affordable housing permit now, investments in supportive services, and collaboration with our local, state, and federal partners.

We are proving that affordable housing doesn't have to take a decade to deliver.

We can do it faster.

And here is your proof.

Every ribbon that we cut, we are seeing real progress on our shared effort to ensure that all San Diegans have a place to call home.

This is truly a great day to be here in Memorial Park right here in the beautiful neighborhood of Logan Heights.

Our kids deserve safe, high-quality places where they can play, grow, and enjoy the outdoors.

And thanks to an extremely generous contribution of nearly $50,000 from Wave FC, we were able to completely resurface it.

It is so important for us to show up and lean into our community.

We want to be about more than just what you guys see out on the field.

We believe in the health and wellness of young kids, hence this project.

It's so important to their health and well-being, especially now more than ever, that we're taking care of each other and allowing these kids opportunity to just be out and play and be healthy and happy.

We want to be sure that our parks are the best they can be.

And when we have these opportunities to work with the uh various sports leagues of the city to come and introduce programs and to help us fund improvements to our parks, it is very, very vital to our overall success.

This kind of investment is a shining example of what happens when our city can partner with community minded organizations.

This kind of investment is a shining example of what happens when our city can partner with community-minded organizations that want to have a positive impact in the neighborhoods and in the lives of San Diegans.

By permitting more homes, we're easing the pressures on the housing market and helping it make cost of living a bit more manageable for San Diegans.

The annual report on homes shows that the policies and decisions we make are translating to real results for real people, and we see that in the data.

New homes add desperately needed inventory to our region, providing more housing opportunities to more people.

San Diego is becoming a place that is the model for the rest of the state when it comes to affordable housing.

You know, the governor has made very clear, the legislature has made clear that the state of California has to build more housing.

This grand opening is particularly special because what it means for the 270 families who will make their homes here at Harrington Heights.

Good afternoon.

I will now reconvene the City Council meeting on Monday, November 3rd, 2025.

Clerk, please call a roll.

Thank you, Council President.

Councilmember Campbell.

Councilmember Whitburn.

Councilmember Foster.

Councilmember Von Wolpert.

Council President Pro Tem Lee.

Councilmember Campillo.

Councilmember Moreno.

Present.

Councilmember Elo Rivera.

Present.

And Council President LaCava.

Present.

Also attending the meeting are assistant city attorney Leslie Fitzgerald, Independent Budget Analyst, Charles Matica, Council Affairs Advisor in the Mayor's Office, Coda Zizer, and myself, your city clerk, Deanna Fuentes.

Thank you, Council President.

Thank you, City Clerk.

Quorum is now present.

We'll start out by inviting Mayor's Office, City Councilmember, City Attorney, independent budget analysts or city clerk for any comments.

And I see our city clerk does indeed have comments.

Thank you, Council President.

I am pleased to share that my office will be hosting a series of community listening sessions to support our community engagement survey over the next several months.

These sessions are an opportunity for us to talk directly with the community about how the city council's meetings work, how they can access agendas and public records, and most importantly, how we can make it easier for everyone to participate in their local government.

Our goal is simple to listen and to learn.

Join us for our first session this Wednesday, November 5th, 2025 at 5 p.m.

virtually at WW.sand.gov slash backslash listening or in person at the Logan Heights Library located at 576 South 28th Street.

Please visit San Diego.gov slash engagement to take our survey to take our survey and obtain the virtual link for the listening session as well as the phone-in number.

Stay up to date on the topic, and together we can strengthen communication, expand access, and shape the future of our city.

Thank you, Council President, for the opportunity.

Without context, that is a really funny thing to say.

Not to mention the tens of thousands of folks who have uh what were steady government jobs, um, who have been put into a state of flux as well.

So just what again wanted to say thank you for the organizations that are stepping up and share that there's a significant amount of need.

Um and and anyone who is able to contribute to any of those causes will be ensuring that um families don't go hungry.

Thank you.

Uh thank you, Councilmember Yulow for that.

That was obviously a very serious matter, and grateful to those folks that are stepping up with the uh federal government's inability to understand what the scale of the need is.

Um not seeing anybody else on the lights.

We will now go over uh clerk, please go over how the public can offer their testimony today.

Thank you, Council President.

I'll highlight the slide on the screen that is being put up right now.

The overview that reviews how the public can offer their public testimony during this afternoon's meeting.

The order can be found on the agenda summary found online or at the table in the back of the room.

If you are in person, please complete a speaker slip located at the entrance of chambers and bring it to the front of the room in the clear box.

Council ambassadors are available near the entrance of chambers and can assist with questions and speaker slips.

No further in-person testimony will be taken once the council begins virtual testimony.

Thank you, Council President.

All right, thank you, City Clerk.

And with that, please introduce item 200.

Item 200 is the fourth amendment to the agreement between the City of San Diego and SAP Public Services Inc.

for software licensing, maintenance, support, and technical advisory services related to the SAP system of the City of San Diego.

Six votes are required pursuant to Charter Section 99.

If you'd like to speak on this item, please be sure to raise your hand in the virtual queue or submit your speakers.

Thank you, Council President.

All right, thank you.

So, staff, as you settle in, please introduce yourselves for the record and let us know how much time you would need.

Uh about eight minutes.

All right.

When you're ready.

All right, good afternoon, Council President Lacava and Council members.

I'm Jonathan Banke, CIO of the Department of IT, along with Arlo McPantai, Deputy Director.

We've got some other staff here to support the items that we have today.

We're here today to request the approval of an ordinance to amend the existing agreement between the City of San Diego and SAP public services for software licensing, maintenance, support, and technical advisory services for an additional five years with a not to exceed amount of 30 point uh 38.1 million to provide continuity of many of the city services supported by the SAP system.

This slide provides a high level view of the Department of IT's recent uh current and future actions for council consideration.

The Department of IT manages over 100 contracts to provide technology services to the city.

Some are large enough to meet the threshold for council approval, so in alignment with IT's strategic plan and technology roadmaps earlier this year.

Uh City Council approved a contract for SAP as needed consulting services and a contract with Motorola for public safety radio infrastructure and operational support.

In addition to the action items today, we will be returning in quarter three for a managed print services solution.

And I'll turn it over to Arlo to provide details on today's SAP amendment.

All right, thank you, Jonathan.

Uh good afternoon, Council President Lacava and members of the City Council.

My name is Arlo McPantai, Deputy Director in the Department of IT, and my team oversees the city's enterprise resource planning system known as SAP.

The City's SAP system facilitates critical citywide business operations that include the management of the city's annual budget, financial statements and accounting, reports and dashboards, personnel and human resource processes, timekeeping and payroll, employee benefits, procurement and inventory, water billing, employee learning and training, and infrastructure and enterprise asset management.

The city's agreement with SAP is essential to ensure that we are rightfully licensed and supported to continue using SAP on-premise software to facilitate critical citywide business operations.

As the city's ERP provider, technical support from SAP is essential to maintain system integrity and to ensure that we have continued access to software updates and security patches, in addition to as needed assistance for addressing potential software issues.

An annual 5% allowable CPI increase has been added to our current costs for licensing to accommodate for potential price increases in the next five years, and an additional 20% increase has been included for any unforeseen future business requirements.

It is worth mentioning that the city is also currently undertaking an effort to modernize our ERP system.

This project is meant to upgrade the city's SAP system to a private cloud environment known as SAP S4 HANA with an anticipated completion date that spans fiscal years 29 and 30.

Targeted benefits of this project include an enhanced user interface and reporting for a better overall SAP user experience and a review of existing business processes to determine where industry best business practices can be enabled.

This project will also improve the method in which we integrate with non-SAP systems while allowing us to take advantage of artificial intelligence capabilities that will soon be made available to streamline processes that we use today.

The action to approve the amendment to our existing agreement with SAP will ensure continuity of on-premise SAP licensing, maintenance, and support as we transition to a next generation ERP cloud solution.

The current term and not to exceed amount of our existing contract for SAP licensing and support is five years and 30.5 million.

For the duration of the existing contract term, projected five-year total spend is approximately 26 and a half million.

For the next five-year term through November 2030, a total spend of 38.1 million is being requested.

The total request of 38.1 million includes a 5% annual consumer price index allowable rate increase, which has been added to the current term projected total five-year spend.

In addition, a 20% add-on for modernizations and enhancements of 6.1 million has been added for any unforeseen system updates or regulatory requirements.

The approximate five-year total spend, including allowances for modernizations and enhancements is 38.1 million.

Our recommendation this afternoon is to approve the ordinance to amend the existing agreement between the City of San Diego and SAP public services for software licensing, maintenance, support, and technical advisory services related to the SAP systems of the City of San Diego for an additional five years with a not to exceed amount of 38.1 million.

As a reminder, this action does not request any additional funding, and all related spending is contingent on approval in the city's annual budget.

That concludes our presentation, and we would be happy to answer any questions.

All right, thank you very much for that presentation.

And I understand the office of the IBA has some additional comments.

Thank you, and good afternoon, Council President Lakava and members of the council.

I'm Aaron Noel with the office of the IBA.

Our office does not have concerns with the item.

However, I have some uh brief comments on items to monitor and questions you may wish to raise.

As the department noted, this amendment is important for maintaining uninterrupted licensing support and technical advisory services for the city's core ERP system, which underpins payroll, HR, budget, procurement, and asset management for all departments.

This amendment would also allow for SAP modernization and enhancements.

The total contract authority is substantial, with this Fourth Amendment increasing the not to exceed amount by 38.1 million dollars over the next five years.

The previous contract years averaged about 5.1 million per year, and the new extended five-year period includes an average of $7.6 million per year of contract spending authority.

We note that ongoing monitoring of annual spending and ensuring future budgets can absorb these costs will be important, especially if modernization or regulatory requirements accelerate spending.

As noted, this amendment is directly tied to the city's multi-year ERP modernization project, which will upgrade SAP to S4 HANA private cloud, improve user experience, reporting and integration, and add artificial intelligence capabilities.

The contract extension and increased authority are designed to support the city's ongoing project, including the transition, as well as to provide flexibility for unforeseen needs, regulatory changes, or enhancements projects.

As the EERP modernization project progresses, it will be important to track contract performance, including monitoring how ERP modernization milestones and efforts are coordinated to avoid duplication or gaps in support.

Council may wish to inquire how will contract performance contingency use and modernization milestones be tracked and reported to council.

Also, regarding the 20% modernization enhancement contingency for unforeseen system updates or regulatory requirements, it will be important to monitor and ensure funds are used for true modernization needs and not routine expenses with clear reporting on how and when these funds are spent.

Council may wish to request the department provide a comprehensive update on the ERP modernization project and future periodic updates that include status of contract expenditures.

This concludes my comments.

Thank you.

All right, thank you very much, Aaron, for that.

We always appreciate the IBE's perspective.

With that, clerk, please proceed with public comments.

Thank you, Council President.

I'm sorry in the five-minute timer here in Council Chambers.

There are no speakers on this item here in Council Chambers.

We have five speakers in the virtual queue.

We'll have two minutes each, starting with Lori Saldania, if you can please unmute.

Yes, I'd like to remind the council that when you are direct documenting an item that it would be helpful to provide additional documents at the council agenda.

This the particular item did not go to a committee, it went straight to the council.

And it refers to the fact that they are underrepresentations in the workforce of African Americans, Latinos, and women in several categories.

And according to the city's Equal Employment Opportunity Plan on file from over a year ago, uh we don't have access uh quickly to the previous file that they say has improved, and it would be very helpful for the public to make it available with the link the same as you do to the current employment um contracting program evaluation.

So there's no way for us to compare without some additional digging to see what has changed in terms of hiring of African Americans, Latinos, and women in management and financial and science computer and sales.

What is clear when you look at the over 1,400 employees, that there is tremendous discrepancies between especially management and financial.

Very few women are represented, very few Latinos are represented, the overwhelming number of people in management and financial, which presumably are some of the higher paid positions, are again identified in the categories as white.

Um, likewise, there are discrepancies in every other major category.

So without those additional documents provided from the previous evaluation of their workforce report, it is impossible for the public to know what improvements for Wade and in what categories.

Are people being hired?

You cannot move up into management if you don't have access to some of these other positions.

So I think it would be helpful for the city council to have those documents available to the public when you're reviewing uh these types of additional contract extensions.

Thank you.

That concludes your time.

7499, if you can please unmute after that is Zoom user, the originator and Blair Beekman.

Bob Kaziski here.

This is outrageous.

This city is going to spend 38 million dollars on a software contract in 2025.

Has anyone done a 30-second Google search for open source alternatives to SAP?

You'll find plenty of results that cost nothing.

That's zero dollars, not 38 million.

Yes, it will take some in-house expertise to install and manage that software, but that can be done with the help of the huge open source community.

The support will be performed by city employees, and those employees will hold good paying jobs right here in San Diego.

It is shameful that this city is outsourcing your internal management software, which is the nervous system of our local government.

I will add that this is ex this exactly parallels the problems we've had with privatization throughout the city of San Diego.

That obviously includes the outsourcing of the management of the Tory Pines glider port.

I urge this council to reject this item.

Instead, I strongly advise that this council create an information technology advisory board to advise this city on this extremely important and expensive aspect of city government.

Also, I agree with Lori Saldani's comments on making all information available to the public when docketing these kinds of items.

Thank you.

Thank you, Zoom user.

If you can please unmute.

All right, thanks for taking my call.

Okay, this company could be a great assets for uh deporting all the illegal aliens that reside in San Diego County.

They could do searches of the welfare roles, the SNAP benefits that go to illegal aliens, the uh section eight people who are illegal take up space for our own citizens, American citizens and San Diego residents.

We could do the voting rolls too.

Have them scan the voting rules for illegal votes and the people that registered those illegal uh people.

That'd be a great service to the people of San Diego County.

And then we got to also do the deport thing where eventually Trump's gonna do uh a bounty on these guys, like $500 a person if regular people can deport them or get pictures of them.

Because uh what uh video recognition on a bank account now to get in your account, you've got to show your face, facial recognition also at the home depot with facial recognition.

You look into the register, and if you stole from the home depot, they won't sell you anymore.

So they got they could be uh reporting illegal aliens in line, and you can wait in the parking lot and pick them up.

So it's gonna be we're hiring 12,000 more ICE agents plus border patrol paying five thousand dollars to hire, pay off your student loan.

A lot of business is gonna happen, man.

It's gonna be great.

Now, we also got to have some diversity on the on the board.

We need some MAGA hats on the board, Matt.

You guys are all Democrats, you're all in the take.

Nancy Pelosi's gonna get arrested here for the best insider trader of all time.

So it's gonna get you guys are gonna cry, cry something, man, but it's happening.

Have a good day.

The original, if you can please unmute.

Yeah, it's interesting when you guys sit and talk about not wanting to exceed, not to exceed contracts, but you do it all the time.

And this one in the tune of 38.125 million dollars, which is a 12.5 million dollar um increase from the years prior, 2.5 million per year.

Um, and you guys, you know, always present it as you know, you have to have a continuance of um business and the core um uh services being able to, you know, continue doing what you're doing.

But I mean, you know, why do we wait?

And I mean, why I don't know why you even say not to exceed, like why do you even put that in place if you're always exceeding not to exceed contracts?

And when we're talking about a 20% increase for software issues or um unforeseen, you know, system updates and you know, business regulatory uh requirements or whatever it is, um, you know, what if that money doesn't get spent?

Is it something where you know this um company is you know providing um this information to you as far as like a a tally of all of their um money that's spent and and if it is or when it is um but when you're talking about modernization and stuff like that, I mean, even if you put things in a private cloud, nothing is secure.

Doesn't matter what you do, it's a mirror, it's a um something that everything is hackable.

And when you're talking about AI, is that part of the reason for the increase in the cost?

Because I know the county of San Diego's spending a billion dollars on AI and you know is gonna spend you know four or five hundred uh thousand dollars just to see if it's like gonna be something that works.

So, you know, when we're engaging with AI like this, it can lead to some very dangerous things because not everything is totally accurate, and it can lead to um other issues that you may not foresee.

So I think we need to know a little bit more information on what exactly this money is being spent on.

Your time is concluded.

There are two speakers left in the queue.

The five-minute timer had uh concluded here in council chambers.

No additional speakers will be taken.

Blair Beekman and then Francine Maxwell.

Hi, uh Blair Beekman.

Thanks a lot for this item.

Um happy happy November to everyone.

Um yeah, thanks for the words of uh Lori Soldano.

It's nice she's back around.

Uh she's offered amazingly good uh thoughts and ideas for this item.

Um, why exactly is this item going right to the city council?

I mean, it doesn't go through any sort of vetting process.

You signed the SAP contract uh uh a year or so ago, maybe six months ago.

It was brought in fresh, like uh SAP is the whole world, we're gonna do everything with the get it done app, and everything's gonna be uh the greatest.

And it was brought in like there wasn't a whole world developing where we were talking about a future of 311 app use and and app use where people didn't have to have apps necessarily, they could use the phone to make uh get it done calls if they needed services, and that's been pushed under the rug a bit, and we're just celebrating continuously the wonders of of SAP.

And I don't, and what Laura Sardani's described, they're not necessarily that good.

And um so uh, you know, we have we have a big rollout of uh a smart street light tech coming up and with the get it done app, what what are the implications of that?

What where are the policy parameters that are helping to define uh openness and accountability practices uh for the future um of this uh all this new smart tech that won't have any sort of oversight of good parking commissions that want to be rejected?

I don't think I think we want to reject that idea.

And um we've got to have our parking commissions.

I hope we can continue to talk about that and address oversight and addressed uh just communication for each other within the community.

It's shocking what city government's doing with that issue.

Um so you know, SAP works to get it done after, so make sure that we work towards a community process.

Uh and and it's open and good communication.

Thank you.

Thank you, Francine Maxwell.

If you can please unmute.

Thank you so much, Francine Maxwell, Southeastern San Diego resident.

Thank you so much for the presentation.

I'm hoping that the IBA would have a response given that they're um the access that we had as the public, over 1400 staffers.

There's absolutely been a discrepancy the entire time of the contract when it comes to diversity.

And given that the race inequity has been placed under IBA, where is the subtitles that should be coming from the race and equity department with their executive director and their staff up under the IBA?

So this absolutely should have another piece of a presentation because again, that's what you told us when we were doing the budget that it would go up under the IBA for this explicit reason that we should be getting reports on discrepancies of fair and equal housing.

I'm sorry, equal employment access.

We all know that there was opportunities for us to have get it done where people could call.

Our senior citizens don't have iPhones.

Some of them have Obama phones.

And I would I would beg to differ that our unsheltered because of their Obama phone, they can't do a lot of things.

And so if there's an opportunity, I'm hoping that we're gonna hear a current data and presentation from the race and equity today.

Thank you so much for your time.

Thank you.

That does conclude public comment on this item.

All right, thank you, City Clerk.

And I'll turn it over to my council colleagues for questions, comments, and entertain a motion.

We'll start with the chair of the budget committee, Councilmember Foster.

Uh yes, thank you, um, Council President, and thank you for the presentation.

I think um just um I understand what we are doing here, but I think it would be good if you can elaborate on the IBA's um comments um in regards to um if you can kind of shed more light on why 20 percent type contingency is um required um or the ask at this time considering our fiscal um status at the present time.

Sure, happy to elaborate.

Um in the technology world, um again, this is just Department of IT planning ahead for five years.

Um let's say a regulatory requirement comes along in year two, right, and we need additional technical advisory services or licensing to address that.

Uh if you recall during the pandemic, uh IT had to do some things very quickly.

Uh so we're not asking for any additional budget at this time.

We just want to make sure the spending authority is available in the contract in case those things come up, and so we don't have to bring something to you last minute to uh to get approval to keep the lights on.

Um so this is just us planning ahead, uh trying to make sure that the the contractual authority is there in case those needs come up for the city.

Do you want to add anything, Arlo?

It looked like you were uh no, I I'm in agreement with Jonathan's uh comments.

Okay.

Um I I guess um can I have a commitment that we'll get IT um to periodically come to um budget um committee to provide um updates um and so forth so we can work our way through this uh modernization in the spend so we can make sure that we are um up to speed um with where the current uh contract is.

Yes, we can absolutely commit uh to that as well as the other recommendations at the IBA put forward.

Okay.

I also like to um make sure as part of that that we are actively addressing the deficiencies and things that were identified in regards to workforce.

Um also I would like to make sure that we um we've been talking about uh monitoring spend um with our minority businesses and so forth.

I don't think we've um gotten everything where we want it to be, but I think um it's my understanding that that procurement is going through a process in regards to um the systems that are used um on that side to track um subcontracting minority spend and so forth, and so I'd like to make sure that um the dollars that we are investing in our SAP, our financial system that we are covering um and including what needs to be um I guess what's important um at this present time to this council.

So um would like to also get that a commitment that that will be part of that conversation as well.

Yes, you have that commitment as well.

All righty with that um council president.

I will move um staff's recommendation.

All right, thank you, Councilmember.

So we have a motion by council member Foster to move the staff recommendation.

We'll go next to Councilmember Moreno.

Uh thank you for the presentation.

Um I want to take a moment to appreciate the ongoing transparency from the Department of IT under the leadership of Mr.

Binkey.

Uh I think this department has done an excellent job at bringing contracts to the council before they expire.

Uh this obviously allows the council ample time to evaluate a contract brought forward for approval.

And if there are any issues with it, that leaves enough time for any needed changes to be explored.

Um I wanted to highlight this because this level of transparency is how we get our residents to trust in their local government.

Um and I have my um I truly I always mention it, Mr.

Banke, but I appreciate um all the work that you do and and um am happy to second this motion.

All right, thank you, Councilmember.

So we have a motion by Councilmember Foster and a second by Councilmember Moreno to move the staff recommendation.

We'll go next to Councilmember Elo Rivera.

Thank you, Council President.

Jonathan, thank you.

Um and thank you, Aaron, for the analysis as well.

Um Jonathan, the the city's SAP system works with a huge amount of data.

Um city workers and residents uh alike.

Um I want to make sure that that data is protected.

Um fact, we heard some pretty twisted um versions of how data could be used in a malicious way right now during public comment.

Um so I I want to be sure that we're not opening ourselves up or residents up to unnecessary risk.

So can you talk about how we ensure that the data is protected when we're working with outside outside contractor like this?

Sure.

Uh yeah, Department of IT takes uh data confidentiality very seriously.

Um as a matter of practice, we don't enter into agreements without provisions for data integrity and confidentiality.

And um, you know, these division um these provisions under the SAP agreement, uh section 6.1 uh has a protection of proprietary information.

So SAP may not release any of the city's proprietary or confidential information uh information and data without the city's prior written consent.

So that's baked into all of the contracts.

And you feel confident that's sufficient to protect the data?

Yes.

Okay.

Um then because uh it is a lot of money, it's a big city, so that makes sense.

To an average FD resident, why not just do something that's open source or um why not build it ourselves?

Why does this make sense to the average San Diego taxpayer?

Uh it's really economies of scale.

So if you think about the complexity of our financial transactions, uh I think several thousand payroll scenarios, the complexity of our payroll, uh just the uh the overall planning for our assets.

Open source can I think help small businesses uh and and do that.

But we have economies of scale, regulatory compliance, uh uh, you know, all sorts of data, the confidentiality of the data that I talked about.

Uh there's a lot of compliance behind the scenes uh with uh major solutions like SAP, um, and those are really ensuring the integrity of our data, regulatory compliance, and uh also efficiencies uh is uh as these global solutions uh uh gain uh gain traction across uh the whole the whole planet, uh more efficiencies are baked in.

We benefit from those economies of scale right here in San Diego.

Thank you for that.

Thank you, Council President.

All right, thank you, Councilmember.

Uh not seeing anybody else on the lights, um, I will join in and thank you for the good work, uh, the presentation and all the work that went into going through the contract amendment.

I think I just had one question because it kind of came up earlier.

Um I think you mentioned the third amendment only ran about 26 million only.

But 26 million.

But I believe that uh third amendment was actually a not to exceed of 30.5 million, and that you didn't actually spend all the authorization under that.

So when we say not to exceed, we say not to exceed.

So just that won't necessarily come up in the the public's view, but I think it's important to note that uh you want that extra capacity if you need it.

So okay, with that, uh we have a motion by council member Foster and a second by Councilmember Moreno to move the staff recommendation.

Clerk, please call the roll.

And that passes unanimously nine to zero.

Thank you.

All right, so I think we're gonna have the same folks here, but clerk, please introduce item 201.

Item 201 is the first amendment to the contract between the city of San Diego and Neptune software for licensing maintenance and as needed support and technical advisory services related to the city's mobile work management application known as Blue Works.

Six votes are required pursuant to charter section 99.

If you'd like to speak to this item, now's the time to submit your speaker.

Slip to the front of the room in the clear box or raise your hand.

Star 9 or the raise your hand icon.

Thank you, Council President.

All right, thank you, City Clerk.

But again, staff, please introduce yourselves for record and let us know how much time you need.

About eight minutes.

For the record, I'm Jonathan Banke, Chief Information Officer in the Department of IT, along with Arlu McPantai, Deputy Director, and we are here this afternoon to request an ordinance to amend the existing agreement between the City of San Diego and Neptune software for licensing, maintenance, and as needed subordinate technology advisory services related to the city's mobile work management application known as Blue Works for an additional one and a half years plus two additional option years for not to exceed amount of 7.8 million.

As we previously noted, in addition to the actions today, we'll be returning in quarter three for managed print services solution.

And I'll turn it over to Arlo to provide details on the Neptune amendment.

Thank you, Jonathan.

Uh good afternoon, Council President Lakava and members of the City Council.

My name is Arla McPantae, Deputy Director in the Department of IET, and again, my team oversees the city's Enterprise Resource Planning System, known as SAP.

As mentioned in the previous presentation, the city's enterprise resource planning system, also known as SAP, facilitates many critical citywide business operations in the areas of finance, HR, and personnel, timekeeping and payroll, water utilities, infrastructure, and enterprise asset management.

This particular request is related to the city's mobile device application for enterprise asset management known as Blue Works, which is currently provided by Neptune Software.

In 2022, the city released an RFP for a replacement mobile work management solution.

Neptune Software was selected out of a field of multiple proposers and developed a solution known as Blue Works that is currently licensed to over 700 department users from transportation, stormwater, public utilities, and general services.

BlueWorks is an SAP integrated application that allows city field crews to receive, initiate, record, and close out asset management work on their mobile devices.

The work assignments that Blue Works facilitates includes repairs on potholes, street lights and traffic signals, and various facilities maintenance components.

In fiscal year 2025, over 125,000 work orders were processed through the application itself.

BlueWorks provides a modern mobile solution for city field crews that is GIS enabled, reduces paperwork and manual processing, and streamlines overall asset maintenance processing.

Also mentioned in the previous presentation, the city is undertaking an effort to modernize our ERP system.

The ERP modernization project is an important effort to migrate our SAP system to a private cloud environment.

Benefits of this initiative include an improved user experience and reporting, better integration capabilities, standardized business processes, and the leveraging of artificial intelligence capabilities.

The action to approve the amendment to our existing agreement with Neptune software for the Blue Works application will ensure its availability and continuity of critical mobile work order management functionality for city field crews while allowing the city to also remain flexible as we transition to a next generation ERP cloud solution.

The city's existing contract with Neptune software for Blue Works licensing and support does not expire until June 2027.

However, since 2022, total expenses are approximately 2.9 million, which include initial implementation costs.

Today's request is for an extension of the existing agreement through January 2029 with two additional one-year options through January 2031, plus an increase in the not to exceed amount of the contract to 7.8 million.

The additional 4.8 million being requested covers licensing, maintenance, as needed support and technical advisory services, and an additional 20% increase for modernizations and enhancements for any unforeseen future business requirements.

To recap, the total request of 7.8 million includes a price-protected five-year total projected spend for licensing and maintenance, an annual allotment of as needed support and technical advisory services, and a 20% add-on for modernizations and enhancements for any unforeseen future business requirements.

Our recommendation this afternoon is to approve the ordinance to amend the existing agreement between the City of San Diego and Neptune software for licensing, maintenance, and as needed support and technical advisory services related to the city's mobile work management application known as Blue Works for an additional one and a half years plus two additional option years for a not to exceed amount of 7.8 million.

As a reminder, this action does not request any additional funding, and all related spending is contingent on approval in the city's annual budget.

That concludes our presentation, and we'd be happy to answer any questions.

All right.

Thank you once again for the presentation on that item.

And again, we have comments by the office of the IBA.

Aaron.

Thank you, and good afternoon, Council President Lacava and members of the council.

I'm Aaron Noel with the office of the IBA.

Our office does not have concerns with the item.

Um, however, I have some brief comments on items that should be monitored.

Um as the department noted, this amendment ensures continued licensing, maintenance, and support for Blue Works, the city's mobile work management solution, which supports fields, crews, and daily operations across multiple city departments.

In terms of financial impact, the total not to exceed will increase from $3 million to $7.8 million.

Um average spending for the previous two years has been under $1 million.

Um this increases the not to exceed by $4.8 million in contract spending authority over the 1.5 year extension with two one-year addition uh options.

Um key issues to monitor.

The contract provides flexibility for modernization and enhancements and is intended to bridge the period until the ERP modernization project is complete.

The department should ensure that any enhancements or modernization efforts are justified, well documented, and aligned with operational needs, especially given that the ERP modernization project may eventually introduce a new mobile work management solution.

It's important to monitor the timeline and plan for a smooth transition if Blueworks is replaced.

Um, and this includes ensuring compatibility, minimizing disruption, and maintaining business continuity for for field operations.

Council members may wish to inquire how and when the adoption of a new mobile work management system will be decided and whether there is a plan for a potential transition.

In the near term, as Blue Works expands to more departments, use our adoption and training will be critical.

Council may wish to ask about ongoing training and support for city staff to ensure ensure successful successful implementation and high adoption rates.

This concludes my comments.

Thank you.

All right, thank you once again, Aaron.

With that, Clerk, please proceed with public comments.

We have no public comment on this item here in Council Chambers.

I've started my five-minute timer here, and we have five speakers in the queue, starting with Lori Saldania.

You'll have two minutes.

After that, a Zoom user than the original.

Please proceed.

Yes, first of all, um, I would like to say I'm Laurie Soldania, a lifelong resident of San Diego, and I have no problems identifying myself because of the comments I'm about to make.

These contracts continue to raise some concerns about diversity, but I would never advocate that any of this information be shared in a way that would violate the law and unfairly identify people for purposes of deportation or other actions that could harm them.

I know when we do these workforce reports, it is to try to achieve more equity in our workforce that the taxpayers are paying for, and I appreciate the comments that are made by the council and by other people who have concerns about that.

What I don't understand is how the council can listen to someone advocating for basically bigotry, discrimination, and extreme harm to be perpetrated upon people using this data and remain silent.

I will support this council.

I and let me just say I am somebody who comments often.

I try to do my homework and my research and make sure my comments are on topic.

And yet I have been interrupted by this council in the past.

And three times I have been party to lawsuits or actions that have succeeded in changing your practices.

So I understand the need to allow people to make their comments when they are relevant and when they are not fomenting racist bigoted discriminatory actions.

So in light of this contract, I understand there are no uh you still need to take some actions for certain business uh participation rather under equal opportunity contracting.

But I think this also shows the importance of confidentiality and not sharing data with agencies that could do harm to our residents.

Thank you for that concluding comment.

Zoom user, if you can please unmute.

Thanks for taking my call.

Is it the common uh thing, the city council to view uh federal law as twisted if you uh advocate for obeying federal immigration laws?

And the guy said it was twisted to obey the federal law.

Well, that's kind of strange.

But anyway, all the people in this program, too.

Maybe they could do uh visual recognition on the guys that are working to make sure they're American citizens that utilize these programs.

You know, that's that's that's why we vote.

That's democracy.

People should vote that are actual citizens, not illegal aliens voting, not guys on section eight that are not legal, they have no business being here.

Trump's giving them a thousand dollars to leave and two thousand five hundred bucks for their kids to leave with them.

I don't want to scare them, but you might want to think about that, because if you get busted and deported, you can't come back if you if you choose to do that.

So anyway, good luck to you guys.

Thanks.

Next speaker is the original after that, 7499.

Guys are interesting because um when you're listening to your presentation and you're talking about this being for a one and a half year extension granted to um potential years.

I mean, is that why you're going to Jan?

I mean, January 2029, um, one and a half years prior to that is mid-2027.

We're in 2025.

Um, and so I'm wondering why you're doing this extension and if it's really necessary.

I mean, previous years the IBA said that it was one million dollars per year, now it's 3.21 million dollars per year, which is 2.21 million more per year.

Um, and if we're in 2025 and you're trying to extend it to 2029 with the 1.5 year extension, why are we doing that right now?

I don't know that this four point um not to exceed amount 4.82 million.

Um that's a little bit concerning when we're in such a deficit.

I mean, is this is this necessary?

I mean, obviously, your contract is gonna have to go to at least 20 um 27 and midway through if this extension is going to extend that.

So, you know, I just I really feel like this is fraud waste and abuse, um, especially when you know the way you guys talk, you're like, we want extra capacity if we need it.

But you know, we don't have extra capacity.

That's the problem, is like, of course, everybody would look love cushioning.

Everyone that you guys, you know, charge more for taxes or whatever it is, pretending to help.

I mean, they would love some extra cushion to be able to be like, you know what, I got like five months that I could just like in case I can't pay my rent, in case I don't get these um EBT benefits, I'll be okay, you know.

But you guys want to give spending authority to people to keep the lights on per se, but I'm pretty sure the lights are going to be on till 2027.

So for you to do this, that would be negligent because the people could use the money for other things.

Your time is concluded, 7499, and then Blair Beekman, if you can please unmute 7499.

Bob Kazuski here.

As with item 200, this item is similarly outrageous.

You're going to spend nearly eight million dollars on a software contract in 2025.

Has anyone done a 30-second Google search for open source alternatives to this software?

Yes, it will take some in-house expertise to install and manage open source software, but that can be done with the help of a huge open source community.

The support will be performed by city employees, and those city employees will hold good paying jobs right here in San Diego.

It is shameful that this city is outsourcing your internal management software, which is the nervous system of our local government.

I will add again that this is exactly parallels the problems we have with privatization throughout the city of San Diego, including the outsourcing of the management of the Tory Pines Glider port.

I urge this council to reject this item.

Instead, I strongly advise this council to create an information technology advisory board to advise this council on this extremely important and expensive aspect of the city government.

Also, since we're talking about technology, the similarly outsourced Zoom phone connection during this meeting has continually been cutting out for several seconds at a time, which has obscured potentially critical words like not during these discussions.

Again, I urge this council to create an information technology advisory board to advise this council on our growing dependence on computer and networking technology.

It's a no-brainer.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Next is Blair Beekman.

If you can please unmute hi, thank you.

Blair Beekman.

Uh to work towards more responsible tech practices.

Uh it sounds like a great idea from the previous public comment.

Thank you.

Um really good public comment today from uh Lori Soldano and thank you for what uh Council President Elo Vero previously said.

Uh how we have our public discussion.

Um, you know, I guess the previous public commenters have been okay.

The comment was okay uh to a degree, but I think we're making clear what uh what our city government really actually tries to work towards and how we protect people.

We're not here to uh persecute people.

And uh I hope that can be clear to the previous public presenter.

Thank you for uh really good words from uh in hearing from council persons and uh Mr.

Uh Oliver and uh Lloyd Soldano.

Uh about this item.

This is more working internal issues that um it doesn't necessarily involve the everyday public as much as other uh tech items.

Um I'm trying to consider how the relationships of this internal dialogue can relate to community to everyday people of the community in some way if that's possible.

If it doesn't, um it'd just be interesting to think what ways there can be.

Um I'm very concerned about how we're working the parking commission process that um I hope I'll be talking speaking more in the following weeks how to better wanting to better address that issue.

And uh I'm worried about internal government practices right now and what that exactly means in comparison to community life.

And uh good luck that we can be working together uh towards a future and uh not singularly.

Thank you.

Thank you.

The five-minute timer had concluded.

Anyone else who's raised their hand can definitely send in comments to city clerk at Sandio.gov.

That concludes public comment on this item.

All right, thank you, City Clerk.

Uh we'll turn it over to Council members, and we'll start with Councilmember Foster.

Uh yes, thank you, Council President, and again, thank you for the um presentation.

Um, with that, I will move staff's recommendation.

Thank you.

All right, so thank you, Councilmore.

We do have a motion by Councilmember Foster to move the staff recommendation.

Councilmember Moreno, your next copy to second the item.

All right.

And so now we have a motion by Councilmember Foster and a second by Council Member Moreno.

And not seeing anybody else's lights, I'll do a quick thank you.

And clerk, please call the roll.

Sorry, the voting system, please cast your vote.

And that passes unanimously nine to zero.

Thank you, Council President.

Right.

Again, thank you both for the presentations today.

And with that, Clerk, please introduce item 202.

Item 202 is the annual presentation of the city treasurer's investment policy and delegation of authority to the city treasurer to invest funds.

If you'd like to speak on this item, now's the time to raise your hand by pressing star nine or the raise your hand icon.

Or if you are hearing council chambers, please submit any speaker slips to the front of the room in the clear box.

Thank you, Council President.

All right, thank you.

Staff, as you settle yourselves in, please identify yourself for the record and let us know how much time you need for your presentation.

Good afternoon.

Uh my name is Emmanuel Labrinos, Chief Investment Officer from the City Treasurer's Office.

We'll need about 15 minutes.

All right.

Thank you.

Uh Council President La Capua and Council members.

Um, I'm here today with Stanley Martinez, who is a senior investment officer in our investments division.

And um and uh we're here this afternoon, as we do every year around this time of year to present uh the city treasurer's investment policy as well as to request the annual delegation of authority to invest city funds.

In accordance with state law, the city council is authorized to delegate investment authority to the city treasurer for a one-year period, effective January 1st, 2026.

The existing delegation terminates on December 31st, uh 2025.

Additionally, state statute requires that we present the city's investment uh policy, uh, which is to be considered by city council on an annual basis.

As we do every year, we take this opportunity to update and fine-tune the investment policy.

And um after having met with uh our investment advisory committee in early december to discuss possible recommendations for updates as a result of possible uh legislative changes, or simply to uh clarify and strengthen the policy.

I'm now going to turn it over to Stanley, who will provide a brief overview of the state and recent performance of the investment pool and discuss uh the recommended minor updates of the policy.

Thank you very much.

Manny, uh good afternoon, Council President Lacava, Council members, very warm welcome from my side.

Page three of the presentation covers some high level attributes about the funds we manage.

We call them the city's pooled investment fund.

This is our city's single largest financial asset, and I hope you'll agree it's a source of strength in supporting the city's mission to serve its citizens.

That fund or pool is the byproduct of all of our city's revenues from taxes and fees such as property, transit, occupancy taxes, parking permitting fees, and others.

It's also the source of funding for the city's normal course operations and expenses.

It acts as a fulcrum between the city's funding sources and uses.

As of September 30th, the pool had a 1.96 billion dollar market value.

All of its constituent investments are governed by the investment policy we'll consider later, and fully conform with California government code, specifically Section 53601.

Our objectives for managing these funds are the preservation of principal value, the sustenance of liquidity, and the generation of competitive rates of return consistent with those first two objectives.

On a practical basis, the pool we manage is as two separate subportfolios within one.

The liquidity oriented portion is generally 35% of total, and funds short-term obligations like city payrolls.

The remaining 65% is invested for longer than one year, chiefly to fund long-term projects such as capital improvements.

As of September 30th this year, the fund had generated a 4.49% annual yield.

For fiscal 2025, the 12 months ended June 30th, the fund received income totaling 104.8 million dollars.

Now that's significant for two reasons.

First, it's large.

If it were a single line item in our budget, it would be our fourth highest and slightly larger than our franchise revenues received from utilities, communication service providers, and waste haulers.

Second, our four-person department is the only one which generates revenues not directly derived from imposing taxes or fees.

What we generate is a secondary effect from those taxes or fees.

So effectively, we're a force multiplier.

And relative to both the city's past returns and those last year for similarly managed funds across the state of California.

Earnings are the product of rate times base, P times Q.

Now the graph on the left decomposes these.

It shows that the 104.8 million dollars we generated was 31.5 million higher compared to fiscal 2025, despite a portfolio base that was 170 million dollars lower.

The higher rate we earned did reflect lag effects from higher interest rates after Federal Reserve tightened monetary policy in 2022 and 2023 in response to higher inflation ratings post-COVID.

But like other public servants, we sought to work incrementally harder and smarter with more limited resources.

And in historical context, the 14.8 million dollars we generated was the highest on record per our files, which date back to 2006.

Now the graph at the right compares the City of San Diego's 4.43% earned income yield for fiscal 2025 to other public fund peers, also managed similarly under California Government Code 53601.

We're looking at public disclosures from 21 public funds with a total of 115 billion dollars of assets under management.

Page 13 in the appendix has the citations.

Our level exceeded the return at some larger, more prominent funds, such as the city of Los Angeles and the city and county of San Francisco.

So I'll leave it for others to declare a finding of skill.

What I can assure you and everyone is that our four-person team does its utmost every day to seek the highest and best returns while keeping a sacrosanct commitment to principal safety and adequate liquidity that funds San Diego's operations.

We're seeking to make up for in experience and judgment what we may lack in team scale.

We're creating and seeking to sustain a center of excellence using our specialized skills and tools, leveraging many in my private sector experience to bring the best of Wall Street to the funds that we manage.

And in doing this, we want to create maximum value for operating funds and allow you and our other 13,000 colleagues across the city to do more of what you do best.

Page five shows the funds asset allocation as of September 30th.

It should suffice to say that there are no shortcuts at work here.

Our investments comply with the letter and the spirit of California regulations fully.

You can find more details on our investments disclosed monthly on our website at Sandiego.gov backslash treasury backslash investments.

So taken together, pages three, four, and five outline why we are respectfully seeking your reauthorization to continue managing San Diego's operating funds for another year through December 31 of 2026.

Let's turn now to page six and for the next several pages to some proposed investment policy changes.

My binding message here is that these are all minor changes.

None of them individually or collectively are going to change the way that we manage funds on behalf of our citizen taxpayers under your delegation of authority.

The first example is on page five of the amended investment policy under section two titled Performance Measurement and Investment Selection Criteria.

Here we propose adding language that makes explicit what we've done implicitly and what I've stated moments ago.

Principal safety and liquidity, adequacy are the primary considerations to return generation, and there is a method to our security selection process.

We think that adding this language makes that direct and unequivocal, it codifies our existing approach and aligns with the letter and the spirit of California Government Code 53601.

Now, likewise on page seven, section Roman numeral eight of our amended investment policy under qualified dealers makes explicit that electronic dealers are covered by the same criteria for bank and broker eligibility as for non-electronic trading.

Electronic trading is our primary mode of investing.

It covers about 90% of our transactions by total and dollar volume.

Simply put, we just don't want there to be a perceived loophole where the platforms we use or may use in future might be considered exempt from the same criteria we use for licensing trading via legacy telephone-based one-to-one price discovery.

So adding the proposed language ensures consistency between legacy and electronic trading in applying these criteria.

Roman numeral nine dealing with authorized investments.

Here we're seeking to amend the sunset date for a maximum 40% allocation to commercial paper from this coming January 1, 2026 to January 1, 2031.

Commercial paper is an important instrument we use to match our investments to meet specific payments such as city payroll, bond payments, or the annual contribution to the pension plan to SD SERS.

Notwithstanding the change that we recommend here, our limit on commercial paper would revert back to a 25% limit.

Fortunately, California Senate Bill 585 extended the 40% maximum by another five years to January 2031.

It was passed on consent on September 9th, and it was signed by the governor on October 3rd, when it will become law effective January 1 of 2031.

We therefore recommend proactive adoption of extending its sunset provision so that our investment policy will align with the forthcoming change in law.

Next on page nine, we edit and clarify language in page 11 of the policy, Roman numeral nine, on what types of collateral are eligible for investment in repurchase agreements and how often they must be repriced or revalued.

As we explained last year, repurchase agreements are a small but fairly arcane but important tool we use principally for overnight investment.

Now, simply put, it's a form of secured lending.

In exchange, the broker will pay negotiated rate of interest and they'll secure their borrowing with offering a certain level of collateral.

Should the broker, as the borrower failed to pay their borrowing at the end of term, the city would have the right to seize the collateral liquidated, and that collateral contractually would exceed the value of the loan.

The terms we propose amending deal with several what we considered non-standard interpretations and use cases relative to our practices.

First, we remove the term margin when referring to the level of contract over collateralization.

Some of us might refer colloquially to a margin of safety, but others could be view margin as a reference to a form of leverage, like a margin call.

That would be inaccurate.

Therefore, we prefer eliminating a reference whose meaning could be misconstrued.

Second is we're eliminating eligibility of what we consider non-standard collateral for repurchase agreements.

We use treasury securities as collateral, and we have the option in our bilateral agreements with securities dealers to also accept collateral from U.S.

agencies, which are guaranteed by the U.S.

government.

The California government code allows us to accept other types of securities as collateral.

These include certificates of deposit with banks and bankers' acceptances, a short-term trade-related bank obligation that was more common in the 1980s and early 1990s.

We consider the California government code's eligibility criteria to be non-standard under modern best practice.

We're therefore recommending adopting criteria which are more restrictive than those allowed under California government code, but align with what we consider market standard risk management practices.

Third, we insert a mechanism for revaluing our repurchase agreements to ensure maintaining contractually agreed minimum levels of over-collateralization, or hence safety.

In normal course, our repurchase agreements are overnight term, but we do have the flexibility to lend for up to 91 days.

Under California government code, a revaluation of 91-day term repurchase agreement will only occur once.

We all know that a lot can change in markets over three months.

We're seeking to prevent scenarios where the market value of collateral falls, perhaps measurably, below an initial threshold.

We therefore introduce a provision whereby valuation occurs at least monthly.

Should the value of collateral fall, there will be a true-up where brokers will be obliged to offer additional collateral to help preserve principal safety.

Lastly, page 10 deals with a host of typographical and grammatical changes, including punctuation edits to various sections of the investment policy.

All the proposed changes we think help make the text clearer and make the interpretation less ambiguous.

So as you can see, all of the proposed changes are individually minor.

None change the way we manage funds on the city's behalf.

From a governance standpoint, all these changes were vetted and aligned on with our investment advisory committee, which has members from private sector investment management functions, along with representatives from the City of San Diego's finance team.

Taking together these minor changes help strengthen our investment policy.

They eliminate potential loopholes and opportunities for misinterpretation while aligning with the more stringent between market practices and California government code.

I characterize these as prudent risk management exercises.

They support the premacy of principal preservation and ensure adequate liquidity in our operating motion.

We therefore recommend the two actions on slide 12 to accept these changes to our investment policy and to reauthorize the Office of City Treasurer to invest city funds for the forthcoming calendar year.

With that, Manny and I would be happy to take any questions you may have.

All right, thank you very much for your presentation.

With that, Clerk, please proceed with public comment.

I'm sorry, the five-minute timer.

There are no speakers here in Council Chambers going to those participating remotely.

Lori Saldania, if you can please unmute after that's the original.

Yes, thank you for this very educational and optimistic presentation.

And again, I notice this is direct docketed, and the rationale given is that they would not have had time if they had uh delayed this.

Um but it would be appreciated by the public to have more opportunities for this type of financial literacy education.

I I think that it's an opportunity that was missed because a committee hearing on this uh allowing people to get more information would have been appreciated.

Um this also reminds me a little bit of the some of the sovereign wealth funds.

I realize this is not considered a sovereign wealth fund.

But if the city of San Diego succeeds in raising more revenues from tourism in particular, that and several of those proposals are now um being discussed.

I hope that those could be invested.

Uh as it stands now, we do not we we promote the city as a tourism destination.

Um, but our hospitality and service industry workers are struggling to survive in San Diego and the wages they are paid.

If there was some way to invest some of these proposals on parking fees for non-residents on uh Airbnb and short-term rental fees, if if any of those could be moved into this investment fund and then put to the use of people who are struggling right now.

Um, I think that would be perhaps a way to encourage people to consider some of those increases in a more favorable light.

So thank you again for for this presentation.

Very interesting and uh appreciated hearing your report.

Thank you.

Our next speaker is the original.

If you can please unmute Yeah, this is interesting.

Um you guys paint such a nice little picture, but then you know um it's a wonder.

I mean, because this is all um generated through taxes, fees, property tax, whatever, and it's funding core expenses.

But we have a 258 million dollar budget deficit because you're talking about lower than expected tax revenues, property sales tax, and hotels, and an increase in costs like pension and franchise fees.

Um so just interesting the way that you talk about this and you know, talk about using all of those fees, and you know, I mean, people are potentially set to lose their homes if they cannot afford to pay the increase in taxes and fees that um are attached to their property tax.

So, you know, it's a wonder how many properties you guys actually gain um authority over um through this type of stuff.

I mean, it's interesting what corporations do.

I mean, it's a lot of racketeering.

I mean, on one hand, you'll talk about how we don't have money for all of this stuff, and then on the other hand, you paint this picture about you know, 1.96 billion dollars in the pool that you have to manage, and but we've got 115 billion dollars in assets under management, you know, and um, you know, wanting to be the center of excellence and bringing the best to Wall Street.

Well, Wall Street, I mean, is known for racketeering and and basically screwing people over, screwing Peter to PayPal, and that's what happens here, and it's just sad to see like how much people are suffering, and you know, how much, you know, I'm sure these billions of dollars in assets and or you know, uh billions of dollars in a pool to manage, you know, seems like all that's such a you know tough thing to have to deal with.

Well, I mean, people can't even make ends meet and are wondering how they're gonna put food on their table.

So just hearing this kind of stuff is really sad because it doesn't look well for you.

Blair Beekman.

Hi, uh thank you.

Uh Blair Pikman.

I'm interested in this item because I think it's an item to me that it seems that you're there's ways to talk about uh investment, I think.

And that's interesting to me.

Um ways that our our city can be uh how money is is invested and used and um and and how we can receive more revenue.

Um thank you.

This these kind of items to me is often not really included as part of the regular process.

And to make our process more accessible and understandable to the community is really important, and I'm learning these lessons now.

I think Lori Soldano offered a really great idea in how to consider uh sort of item and uh and how to consider the Airbnb issues and such uh that we're facing right now, short-term rental issues.

So um thanks a lot for this item and and what what uh is can be an overall course of uh accessibility and understanding of the government process uh that the community can be a part and better understand as well.

Thank you.

Thank you.

That concludes the comment on this item.

All right, thank you, City Clerk.

Now I'll turn it over to my council colleagues questions, comments, and a motion, and we'll start out with council member Foster.

Uh yes, thank you.

Um Council President, thank you for the presentation.

I don't really have any questions at this time.

Um I'm more than happy to move staff's recommendation.

All right, thank you, sir.

So we have a motion by Councilmember Foster to move the staff recommendation.

We'll go next to Councilmember Campbell.

Thank you.

I just have a quick question on uh number five, Roman numeral nine A.

And that has to do with commercial paper and the percent.

I believe it involves a percent allowed to be invested in commercial paper.

And was it last year we went from 25 to 40 percent that was allowed?

It would have reverted back to 25 percent effective January 1st.

I get that.

I just don't quite understand why would we go from the 25 percent to the 40 percent?

Uh it was it was uh uh the California government code um moved it to 40 percent to allow more flexibility to various uh government entities like ourselves who need that flexibility in investing in commercial paper for short-term purposes.

But when it was instituted five years ago, there was a sunset provision, and it was it was about to be sunset from the 40 percent back down to 25.

And had we allowed that or had that happened, or we would have been out of sync with the California government code.

So we simply are aligning what uh what the California government code is doing with what our policies is, and we had the same sunset provision in our policy as the California government code.

So we're basically lining them up.

I understand that completely.

What I'm asking is why in the first place would we go from 25 percent to 40?

That's in the California Code also, because I see by this chart on slide five that we only invested 8.3 or so in commercial paper.

Yeah, yes, that makes sense.

Um yes, so uh our our um allocation to commercial paper seasonally varies.

Uh right now we're at a seasonal low because we don't have as many uh short-term needs to invest those funds.

But as we get toward the end of the fiscal year, we have uh uh more substantial needs to invest those funds to target, for example, the SD SERS payment, which last year was to the tune of 530 million.

So we need to be able to target maturities toward that payment.

So as we get into later into the fiscal year, we have more inflows.

Right now we're in a seasonal low, so we have more inflows from property taxes and other types of inflows, and we take a lot of those inflows and we invest them in commercial paper and other instruments to target those maturities.

We rarely get up to the 40 percent.

Uh you know, we may get up into the 30s uh just as as we need to, uh, but the 25 percent would have limited us, and and that was the reason we wanted to make sure we stay in sync and we have the ability to go up to 40 percent.

Okay, and this is for liquidity, right?

Correct.

Okay, great.

Thank you so much.

All right, thank you, Councilmember Campbell.

We'll go next to Council President Pro Tam Lee.

Thank you, Council President.

Thank you for the presentation and the work that you're doing.

I'm happy to second the item.

All right.

Thank you, sir.

So uh up, Councilmember Whitburn.

Thank you very much, Council President.

Uh thank you for the presentation.

Thank you for walking us through the returns and the uh uh minor changes uh that you're proposing here.

Congratulations on the returns.

Um the returns compared to peer cities, that's an impressive accomplishment.

So uh congratulations on that, and thank you.

Certainly helps the city's financial position.

Um the changes that you walked through made sense.

Um I'm always a little bit leery of fixing what's not broken.

So I will ask you about the uh first change that you referenced, which was um adding language emphasizing the primacy of safety and liquidity compared to return generation.

I think you said that that's not going to change the successful way in which you have approached uh this endeavor, and is that accurate uh yes, it it would be uh council member uh whippern.

The advice of our um investment advisory um council was to include this language, I think just to reinforce the primacy of uh principal safety and generating uh adequate liquidity to fund the city's operations.

Um yes, I I agree that it's uh perhaps uh redundant.

Uh it's certainly in the spirit of how we manage the funds on the behalf of the city and the citizen taxpayers.

Uh, but we we thought that it would be good practice to make it even clearer that that that's our our primary uh purpose and uh you know we'll we'll continue to execute against that.

Fair enough.

Thank you.

Uh thank you, Council President.

All right, thank you, Councilmember.

Uh Councilmember Campillo.

Thank you, Council President.

Thank you for the presentation, your good work, just to sum this up in two sentences.

We had 1.96 billion dollars invested in our pool investment fund last year.

Correct.

Yes, that is correct.

And you guys outperformed every city in this state of California in terms of return uh percentage annual yield.

From what we could tell, yes.

Okay.

We should say that a lot louder because that's really important to know.

Thank you very much for your good work.

Thank you.

All right, thank you, Councilmember.

Not seeing anybody else on the lights.

Uh I'll just add my thanks for the good work that you've done and this annual reporting and the detail in which you express it.

I think it's particularly important uh for us uh council members to hear that.

So again, thank you for your good work.

So with that, we have a motion by council member foster, second by council president Pro Tem Lee to move the staff recommendation.

Please call the roll, clerk.

I started the voting system.

Please cast your vote.

And that passes unanimously nine to zero.

Thank you, Council President.

All right, thank you.

And again, thank you, gentlemen.

Thank you.

Clerk, please introduce item S400.

Item S400 is the mass master lease agreements to finance general fund vehicles and equipment and finance solid waste management fund refuse and recycling bins.

If you'd like to speak to this item, please be sure to submit a speaker slip to the front of the room or raise your hand by pressing star nine or the raise your hand icon.

Six votes are required pursuant to charter section 99.

Thank you, Council President.

All right, thank you.

So before we turn to the presentation, I want to note for the public and my fellow council members that for this item we will be taking two separate votes, one for sub-item A and one for sub-item B.

So after the staff presentation, we will hear public comment, and then I will turn to the council for discussion on both items.

But again, we will be taking separate motions.

And with that, staff, please introduce yourselves for the record and let us know how much time you need.

Good afternoon, Council President, members of the City Council.

Uh Richard Eyre, Financial Operations Manager with the debt management division of the Department of Finance.

With me is Marisol Valdeminos financing coordinator in the department.

We'll need no more than 10 minutes for the presentation.

All right.

When you're ready.

So today today's item is part of the city's equipment and vehicle financing program or EVFP program.

We're requesting adoption of two separate ordinances to approve the form and execution of two master lease agreements with Bank of America Public Capital Corporation.

The first lease agreement will finance fleet vehicles and equipment not to exceed 40.5 million.

The other agreement is to finance the new uh refuse and recycling bins funded by the Solid Waste Management Fund not to exceed 41.5 million.

Both agreements will provide access to necessary as needed funds for previously council approved vendor contracts.

The ordinances will also include language to declare the city's intent to reimburse itself with lease funding proceeds as required by Treasury regulations.

And the ordinances will authorize the mayor, COO, CFO, or their designees to finalize and complete the transactions.

I'll turn it over to Marisol now to walk through some of the particulars of each of these agreements.

The first agreement I will discuss is with Bank of America Public Capital Corp for not to exceed 40.5 million, which is estimated to finance 313 add-on and replacement vehicles.

This includes vehicles currently on order with deliveries expected during the 15-month acquisition period.

Sales tax and outfitting costs will be cash funded and budgeted in the fleet vehicle replacement fund.

Purchase contracts for these vehicles have been approved by city council with the understanding that they would ultimately be financed through the city's equipment and vehicle financing program known as EVFP, with an agreement brought forth closer to the time of the equipment delivery.

The projected lease payments are based on 40.5 million principal.

The interest rate range from 3.56% through 3.79%, depending on the term between three to ten years.

Payments are made semi-annually from the vehicle replacement fund, respective to the leased item.

The operating department will pay assignment fees from the respective fund to cover a portion of debt service payments.08 million and drop down below 1 million between 2034 through 2036.

The total estimated debt service for fleet is 46.2 million.

The fiscal impact of this agreement was included in the current five-year outlook debt ratio analysis, which are projected to stay below the threshold established in the debt policy.

The next agreement backed by the Solid Waste Management Fund is also with Bank of America Public Capital Corp for a not to exceed 41.5 million to finance an estimated 750,000 new trash and recycling bins.

The solid waste management fund was created to capture revenues and expenditures related to refuse recycling and organic collection.

The financing expected to have a 10-year repayment term and follows previous city follows previous council action by in July approving the amended contract with the vendor Ray Rig to supply the bins.

The projected lease payments are based on 41.5 million principal.

The interest rate for a 10-year term is estimated to be 3.79%.

Debt service payments will be made semi-annually from the Solid Waste Management Fund.

The repayment is also anticipated to start in fiscal year 27 and run through fiscal year 2037.

The amounts range annually from 5.08 million through 1.31 million.

The total estimated debt service for the bins is approximately 50 million.

As background, the city uses EBFP to finance essential vehicles and equipment using three, five, seven, and 10-year terms.

As a standard practice, the city will pay for the vehicles and equipment upon delivery and then reimburse itself soon after with the lease proceeds provided under the agreements over the acquisition period.

These agreements were established between the city as the lessee and Bank of America Public Capital Corp.

as a lessor, who was elected through a competitive procurement process.

The city is under no obligation to draw down the full amount, and the city may use excess funds to finance other equipment and vehicles up to 40.5 million and 41.5 million.

The fixed rate is determined at the time of financing, and funding cannot be accessed if rate exceeds 7%.

Under both agreements, the city covenants to budget and appropriate the annual lease payments.

Should the assets not be delivered in time, or if it is in the financial interest of the city, there is also an option to an optional escrow agreement.

The city may execute to draw down funds prior to delivery.

The city advances costs and related expenses of the vehicles and equipment at delivery and expenses will be reimbursed from tax-exempt lease proceeds periodically during the 15-month acquisition period.

Via the ordinance, the city declares its official intent to reimburse vehicles, equipment, and related costs using funds available from the lease purchase agreement with the lessor in order to satisfy Treasury regulations.

The timeline for the execution of the agreements after this meeting, we anticipate the second reading in mid-November, followed by execution and early December.

This concludes our presentation.

We thank you for your time and we welcome any questions.

All right, thank you for your presentation.

Clerk, please proceed with public comment.

There's no public comment here in Council Chambers going to those participating remotely.

Currently have four speakers with their hands raised.

Andrea, if you can please unmute.

Hi, my name is Andrea Ebbing, and uh it's interesting about the new leasing, new equipment.

I see there are um Ford Mustang Mach key threes being purchased for parking um parking like meter maids, I guess.

Now we're spending like 42,000 on vehicles for meter maids and um I don't know.

We're just a uh an absolute crisis right now.

And like just replacing all the trash bins and buying all these new cars and doing all this stuff, hiding the money is just it's unfortunate.

Like we're out here dying.

I'm literally dying.

I'm getting a second ruptured aneurysm uh embolism tomorrow because I'm from District 7 and I've been completely abandoned after surviving my own murder.

But you know, let's buy a whole bunch of new cars because why not?

And let's replace all the trash bins because why not, right?

We have the money to do it.

We have a loan, we can get lease agreements, and nobody does absolutely this is a yeah, let's go for it.

Let's just let's just spend the money.

Um let's get a bunch of new equipment and some fifty thousand dollar cars for meter means to drive and call it a day.

Thank you.

Lori Saldania, if you can please unmute after Lori Saldanias, Blair Beekman than the original uh yes, thank you.

Um again, just reviewing the contracting uh program evaluation.

It it is concerning to see the discrepancies in um employee allocations in terms of positions.

Um they have about a thousand employees, and nearly a quarter of them are uh Latinas, which is good, but three quarters of the women of those Latinas are working in uh administrative support, and which is historically one of the lowest paid employment sectors.

Um I I really encourage the city when you're doing contracting with any large employer to look carefully at how is representing and reflecting on people who are often struggling to survive in San Diego, even if um you do have to do this contracting out as opposed to city employees.

I I think you just need to take a closer look at where people are being hired, but more importantly, where they're being placed in the companies that you're doing business with.

What opportunities are there for them to advance, and also what opportunities are there for them to be able to afford to live in what's increasingly becoming America's most expensive city.

Uh one final note on on trash bins.

There was a truck picking up trash bins in my neighborhood last week.

It was licensed, the license plate was from Texas.

So I'm just curious: are we outsourcing this pickups and exchanges to uh out of state delivery services?

And and if so, uh is that something that's been discussed publicly that we have Texas licensed vehicles operating on the city's behalf and picking up the old black waste bins.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Blair Beekman, if you can please unmute.

Hi, thank you.

Uh Blair Beekman.

Thanks for the presentation.

Uh focused on uh investment relationships.

Um there's a lot involved with this item, it seems, and uh so I I wanted to comment excuse me, my voice is cracking.

I wanted to comment from the point of view of um uh with the trash bins themselves and and and their uh rollout over the past few months that um I hope that's going okay.

And it's been my hope that that has been a process that can allow time.

Uh that everything doesn't have to be done within fixed dates.

I don't exactly know where you are in that rollout process at this point.

I'm sorry.

Um, but uh I it's as the same way you worked with the park, you're working the parking enforcement issues for Balboa Park, you're allowing a bit more time to work that out.

Um I hope you can do the same with uh garbage items.

It's an incredibly important item to our future.

Um it's it's how um city government may have the beginnings of an idea, but they need to respect how there can be community input for that idea, and that relationship and that caring is really important.

And so I mentioned that because with the with the trash bins and all their IFID new technology that's involved with them.

How is the process going that is that that you're able to make more clear to the uh public that they can ask, you know, what are the policies involved with all of that RFID?

Can they ask you questions?

Are you allowing people to ask those questions?

Are you explaining um what the identification stuff does and uh how long where the technology will be going to, how long they get to store that technology, all the basic questions.

Um if we learn how to do those things well, that's how we're developing our future for these practices.

If you're keeping this hidden and secretive and fearful, that's trouble.

Uh, what are we doing?

Thanks.

Thank you.

And our final speaker is the original.

Yes, so this is very interesting because you know, um the way you guys spend money or or try and get money.

I mean, 313 vehicles potentially would be like 129,392 dollars a vehicle.

You know, did they potentially cost 60,000 but up to 300 if you guys are going to be doing your electric, which thought you were trying to save greenhouse gases, so I'm not sure how this fits into your climate action plan, but those can potentially cost five to six hundred thousand.

So hopefully we don't exceed these contracts um by you know implementing something like that.

But I just really don't understand what's going on with this 41.5 million dollars for 750,000 bins.

Well, you were talking of getting full cost recovery from the people, so you increased and and brought in these fees, right?

And so it's just with the smallest uh units, it's 3282.

That is uh 24 million six hundred and fifteen thousand.

That's 16 million over what you guys are potentially um you know going to be charging for the people.

So I don't really understand what's going on here, even if it's the 3894, that's 29,205 or 29 million two hundred and five thousand, which is twelve million two hundred and ninety-five thousand above what it would actually be costing.

And even if it's the ninety-five gallon at 4360 per bin, that's 32,700,000, um, which is 8.8 million dollars more.

Um, so what is happening here?

Are you guys you know uh coming in above cost uh or or or potentially saying it's gonna be above cost and then coming in under that to pocket?

I I just don't understand.

It sounds like a lot of this SDG kind of shenanigans.

So I'd kind of like an explanation on where you got this 41.5 million dollars when you don't even know if all people would get the 95 gallon, and even if they did, it's 8.8 million dollars.

All right, thank you, City Clerk.

Um as a reminder for this item, we will be taking separate votes.

So first we will take council member questions and comments, and I will kick it off by putting a motion on the floor for sub-item A for the purpose of financing the acquisition of general fund vehicles and equipment.

And then just a couple of comments.

Thank you for the presentation, the good work.

As I understand this is just a financing mechanism.

The council has already voted on both of these in terms of the contract and acquisition.

This is just a financing strategy and how best to optimize our our revenue sources.

Is that correct?

That's correct.

All right.

So again, I've made a motion to uh move uh item A, which is the financing the acquisition of general fund vehicles and equipment.

And I'll turn it over to colleagues for both uh seeking a second as well as any questions or comments.

Councilmember Von Wolpert.

Um thank you very much for the presentation and thank you for uh splitting this item up into two separate votes.

Thank you.

Um thank you also to our city attorney's office for all the work they do to get all these documents ready to go.

Uh in terms of the cost of the vehicles and the trash bins.

I'm very unclear how we can spend 40 40.5 million to purchase 313 vehicles.

And we're spending the same amount of money for trash cans.

I would assume that vehicles cost a lot more than trash bins.

We're spending actually we're spending more on trash bins.

We're spending 41 million dollars to replace everyone's trash bins.

So I don't understand how these two separate 313 vehicles can cost the famous trash bins.

I would uh thanks for the question, Councilmember.

Uh good afternoon, Jeremy Bower Environmental Services Department.

I think for the question, Councilmember, the cost for the containers is a function of the number of customers we are working with around 225,000 customers at the city Marvel Services Department services, and we're replacing as a part of our effort to validate our customers that we're servicing and the service that they're receiving and the fee associated with those customers.

We're replacing all the trash containers and all the recycling containers at a minimum, each of those customers will have at least one trash and one recycling container, and a subset of those will have multiple containers.

Yep, so council member, I think it really comes down to 313 vehicles in one portion of this and then 750,000 bins in the other portion of it.

Um so that's really where the I guess the cost difference comes in while still both about 40 million dollars.

Okay.

Did we get multiple bids for the trash cans as the lowest bid?

We took advantage of an existing uh contract vehicle we had in place and determined that by leveraging that existing contract, and because of the economies of scale, that existing contract vehicle, that it would be in the city's best interest to leverage that existing contract.

And that did go through a cooperative procurement agreement where we did look at um other cities who went through this type of um conversion, purchasing um the number of bins that we did, and we did find that the red rig contract was the uh most cost effective.

Um and I think they did an invitation to bid and looked at about five or six other uh vendors, and Rebrig was the most cost-effective option.

Are we getting any money back for all the useful trash cans that we're having to give back because they're not all broken?

Are we getting any money back for giving trash cans back to this company?

We are recycling, we're not getting money back, but we are not paying additional shipping for the that we're shipping the containers and they'll be recycled.

Money that we would have had to spend to for that shipping, that is not we're not being charged for that because recognizing the value of the recycling, but we're not gonna we're not getting paid uh any revenue for the recycling.

Okay.

Um thank you for answering the questions.

I lost on this vote before.

I didn't think we need to buy new trash cans for everybody at this time, so I will not be voting for funding trash bins, but I will vote to fund the equipment that we do need the vehicles, heavy duty, meat duty, light duty construction vehicles, because those are things we had talked about as a council that have been out of way past their years of service for years and years and years.

Our poor mechanics were trying to get these back on the roads um for months, and so that I I do understand that we had been putting those off, but I just I don't think that we need to buy everybody new trash cans.

So um I'll second the motion for subitem A, which is related solely to the vehicle purchase, and I will be voting no on sub item B.

Thank you.

Thank you, Councilmember.

All right, so we have a motion by myself on subitem A to move uh the staff recommendation and a second by council member von Wolpert.

And we'll go next to Councilmember Moreno, continuing to talk on either item.

Thank you.

And uh thank you for the presentation.

I think it's been very clear that I've become uneasy with the structure by which the city purchases and then leases vehicles.

Um I did not support the latest cooperative procurement contract for the purchase of various vehicles and equipments a few years ago, which will eventually also be converted into a master lease agreement in the next few years or so.

Um simply uncomfortable with how the city is perpetual perpetually um issuing debt to fund vehicles and equipment for our fleet.

Um so I will not be supporting subitem A.

Um, however, I will support subitem B as this scenario was laid out and contemplated in the cost of service study.

Um that concludes my comments, Council President.

Thank you.

All right, thank you, Councilmember Moreno.

Uh not oh, Councilmember Campio.

Thank you, Council President.

Um thank you for your presentation today.

I know that a member of the public uh alluded to the fact, and I think I've seen it in media as well about the uh issue related to individuals delivering our the trash cans uh for our new uh solid waste program are not from San Diego.

Can we get a little more information on that I'm assuming that was part of the leveraged contract that you answered uh Councilmember Von Wilbert about?

Uh yes, Councilmember Campio.

So the rarity contract included the costs of the assembly and distribution.

They are this is something the company does countrywide, and part of that contract included providing the the staff to supplement the effort.

Understood.

Do we request that they would use people from San Diego?

I know they do it countrywide and they've been doing it for us for a long time.

But I think environmental services staff have been the ones who deliver replace before we implemented the solid waste plan at this point.

Is that right?

Uh that's true, that's correct.

And part of our our team does include some utility workers as well as part of the part of the effort includes swap out periods if if customers either receive a container they didn't mean to order or or did not make a selection at all, they have that 30-day swap-out period to make a change.

And we do have San Diego-based city staff to support that that transition effort.

Okay.

And but in large part the several thousand hundred thousand uh receptacles that are being delivered are not being delivered by people who live in San Diego.

Is that correct?

That's correct, Councilmember.

Okay.

All right.

Uh I I appreciate your work.

Uh I'm I'm in the uh same position as uh Councilmember Von Wilbert as a matter of consistency.

It was the issue related to trash cans has been well uh discussed.

Um but understanding that sub item A here, the first motion uh simply put we cannot conduct the number of uh constructions and capital project improvements that we need to see throughout the city without us uh investing uh in our fleet as we've seen uh and it would lead to a significant delay if we don't have some item A.

So I will vote yes on some item A and vote no on some item B.

Thank you, Council President.

All right, thank you, Councilmember.

And not seeing anybody else on the lights, we'll take up the first one.

So uh motion by myself and a second by Councilmember Von Wilpert to move the staff recommendation for subitem A for the purposes of financing the acquisition of general fund vehicles and equipment.

Uh clerk, please call the roll for subitem A.

Call the roll for sub item A.

That passes eight to one with council member Moreno voting no.

Thank you, Council President.

All right, and then move things along.

I'll make a motion to move sub item B for the finance the acquisition of solid waste management fund refuse and recycling bins.

Can I get a second for that?

Councilmember Whitburn.

So um not see anybody else in the lights again.

A motion by myself and second by Councilmember Whitburn to move subitem B for the acquisition of the solid waste management fund refuse and recycling bins.

Clerk, please call the roll.

Subitem B.

I've cast started the voting system.

Please cast your vote.

That passes six to three with Campillo Will um von Wilbert and uh foster voting no.

Thank you, Council President.

All right, thank you.

And again, thank you to the team for putting these financing mechanisms together.

So with that, that concludes our action items.

We will now take up non-agenda public comment.

The council members respect and appreciate the public's input and are fully committed to protecting every participant's free speech rights at council and committee meetings.

Clerk, please proceed with public comments.

Thank you, Council President.

Per rule 2.7 of the 2.7 non-agenda public comment is opportunity for members of the public to comment on items that are not on the agenda but within the subject matter jurisdiction of the city council.

Each speaker will have two minutes.

Please note if there are eight or more speakers on a single topic.

The maximum time for the topic will be 16 minutes.

If you are in chambers, please submit your speaker slip.

If you're joining us virtually, please raise your hand by tapping the raise your hand icon or if you're a call on participants, star nine.

If I can have the following individuals, please come up to the front of the room in the yellow reserve seats.

Clayton Wydenhoft, uh, Kenya Perasa, Lydia Morales, Miguel Aguirre, Juan Garcia, Angel Lopez, and Francisco Mayor Mayora.

If you can all please come forward, see those publisher venera los asientos que tienen delinados amarillos.

And you'll have two minutes, please proceed.

Thank you all for letting me speak.

Um I don't know if this I don't know if this is the topic.

I uh this may come up as a topic.

Um can we have stairs adjacent to the escalators and elevators at the San Diego public library because of the malfunct because of the constant malfunctions it has over there for and I believe it's been going on for years.

I don't want to see anyone with a broken leg.

And yeah, that's pretty much it.

It's a it's a simple question, nothing complicated.

Um yeah, thank you.

Thank you for those comments.

Next is Kenya Perazia Hi everyone.

This is my first time here.

Thank you for having me.

Nice meeting you all.

Um here to um support a great uh community group and um San Isidro Asset Community, the first chapter for San Isidro.

I'm here to um support a great uh community group in um San Isidro, ASE community, the first chapter for San Isidro, and I'm here to support their petitions and to rise their voices because they're concerned about the high cost of rent, the arise of homelessness, the amount of trash that is filling up our streets, the potholes that are being done in our that are not being taken care of in our district, and um of course one of the main topics, not enough parking, and um of course also more accessible sidewalks for the people with disabilities, which is very close to my heart, and better quality of schools for schools.

And by saying that, I also want to mention a part of that.

I am uh I am my name is Kenya Perasa, and I serve as an elected trustee for the San Isidro school district.

I am also here as a mother who deeply cares about the safety of our children and the transparency of our schools, and I'm also talking by myself and not as a the governing board as a whole.

I am formally inviting you to attend our San Isidro school board meeting on November 13, 2025 at 5 p.m.

and 6 p.m.

open to the public, where two critical matters will be addressed.

First, I will present a proposal to install cameras in classrooms and body body camps for school staff.

This initiative is driving by my commute my commitment to prevent strategies like the one that happened in Sunset Elementary School where parents were informed.

Does conclude your time?

Okay.

Thank you so much, and I will appreciate if any of you go to the city.

Thank you for that concluding comment.

Lydia Morales.

Lidia Morales.

No?

Okay.

Miguel Aguirre.

Hello, everybody.

My name is Miguel Alighieri.

I wear several hats involving South County planning.

I've been doing business in San Isidro for 40 years.

My dad and I started a mailbox business right next to Greyhound and Pale shoes at the pedestrian crossing, south of the McDonald's.

There was only one single trolley track back then in the 1980s.

It was really a glorious time in San Isidro's history.

Border crossers would come across the shop for shoes, clothes, meat, postal, banking service, the giant indoor swap meets.

Things were clean, even though there were twice as many pedestrians crossing over 40,000 daily.

San Diego needs San Isidro.

They need all of the district eight border communities and their ports of entry for access to workforce development, affordable housing, as well as development of strategic trade alliances.

However, this advancing cross-border dynamic must be formulated.

The cross border cultural roots are embedded in District 8 communities, and it begins in San Isidro, a community of the city of San Diego and world's busiest by national gateway.

We are excited about the economic development department recently establishing a new San Isidro EDC to advan administer our BID.

Ongoing sandag planning still gives us an incredible opportunity.gov and we'll get it to the council.

Thank you very much.

My name is Juan Garcia, and I live in San Diego.

I have lived there for 15 years.

Okay, principalmente para me como un senior, tengo 76 años.

Principally most important for me as a senior, I am 76 years old.

In San Isidro, no tenemos lugares donde ear relajanos orden.

In San Isidro, we don't have any places to go and relax and to have a good time.

That is the main thing, but there are people like my wife who doesn't have good access to health care, and we're just living off my pension of $2,000 a month.

I would like to invite you, the elected officials elected by our by us to come and see what a forgotten community is like, the forgotten community of San Isidro.

There's a lot of us with mental health issues.

I myself have suffered from anxiety and mental health issues and depression.

A lot of people don't realize that they have mental health issues.

I think about that decade ago.

And we know it's in the works, but it's taking such a long time.

We feel forgetting neglected and feeling unheard for a long time.

That's why we're here.

We want to be heard.

We want to take action and address the lack of investment in our neighborhood.

We ask our representative Vilmian Moreno to and the mayor to meet with us and go on a walk on these streets of San Isidro.

So we can show you what we live day to day and we experience.

And thank you for the time.

Thank you very much.

Thank you for your concluding remarks.

I like many San Diegans are tired of you people always promising change and us always waiting for sad change.

I yield the rest of my time.

Thank you.

I'm sorry, the five-minute timer hearing council chambers going to those participating remotely.

We have 10 speakers in the queue, starting with Blair Beakman, then Barbara Gordon and Laurie Saldania.

Blair, if you can please unmute.

Hi, thank you.

Uh Blair Beekman.

Thanks for the meeting today.

Um, I spoke to a few items at the uh Thursday special meeting on um creature of uh tenant and apartment rights.

Tenant rights and apartment owner rights issues.

Uh I wanted to continue uh that conversation.

Uh I tried to speak um from us Thursday.

Uh I also feel that we need to more openly well.

Yeah, uh today I wanted to also mention how the strong mayor system of San Diego, working with a select few within San Diego City government has again possibly left San Diego City Council, the entire city San Diego community out of a process to better understand uh that local ST neighborhood parking commissions are possibly being completely disabandoned uh for the next few years.

Can we please uh continue to consider this as a process needing more time of community dialogue and public input?

San Diego City government ending the uh neighborhood parking commissions will simply be reducing overall community dialogue and information sharing.

And at the same time, uh San Diego City government is funding um uh new smart streetlights rollout, and that some within San Diego City government uh may have also been fighting far too long and far too strong for regulations over the past few years to keep local neighborhood parking commissions distant and separated uh from day-to-day decision making in our lives.

All of this feels like a recipe for disaster.

In any new rollout of experimental new smart like surveillance tech, can we please also experiment with the questions and how we can have an absolute minimum of new neighborhood surveillance tech that can still practice the same amounts of public safety needed for local San Diego neighborhoods.

Good luck that we can better consider uh recent decision making by only a select few within San Diego City government, and that we practice community.

Uh, we really need to practice open democracy, and you're hurting things right now by not.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Next is Barbara Gordon, if you can please unmute.

Um, good afternoon, Mayor and City Council.

The rising incidence of fatal vehicle accidents involving drivers who have tested positive for THC underscores an urgent need for stronger regulations surrounding marijuana use and road safety.

As the marijuana industry expands their market, so does the risk of impaired driving.

It is a public safety concern that cannot be ignored.

Sandag's substance use monitoring project interviews individuals who have been booked into county jail to better understand their substance use.

Findings show 61% reported they do not believe that driving under the influence of marijuana impairs their driving ability.

The gap was even wider among juveniles, with 75% did not believe driving under the influence affects their driving performance.

Together, these findings highlight a disconnect between reported behavior and perceived risk of marijuana use in driving.

Research shows that THC significantly impacts motor skills, reaction time, cognitive functions, leading to dangerous driving conditions.

We need to maximize prevention effectiveness.

This lack of prevention education has serious implications for the health equity for our community.

Ultimately, prioritizing road safety through robust marijuana regulations is essential for protecting lives.

We must act decided decisively to ensure that our roads remain safe for everyone.

Let's advocate for policies that address this growing concern and foster a safety and a safer driving environment for our community.

Thank you for letting me speak.

Thank you.

Next is Lori Saldania.

After that, 1384.

Yes, thank you.

Mr.

Whitburn, uh road denticide is being applied to trees and hillcrests near the Marston Hills uh area.

I encourage you to identify the source, work to prevent more being uh put out because dead and dying animals are a hazard to people, pets, and wildlife, and it can get into uh raptors and start killing hawks and owls during migratory season along the Pacific Flyway.

Please have your office investigate that.

Um, I I mentioned in a previous council meeting.

Once you vote as a council member to allow the collection of personal data via automated license plates, readers and other means, you contribute to higher risk of having people such as the person who commented earlier today, seek ways to use that information and harm residents of this region regardless of laws and safeguards that are in place.

I encourage you to respond to public comments that openly call for actions with the intent of creating violations of basic human rights using technology the city has contracted and paid for, despite an increasingly stretched budget.

You may allow those comments to proceed, but please don't be silent.

Use your voices to speak against the intent of comments such as the ones today.

Silence is agreement.

Please don't be silent.

The actions that person promoted today for two minutes do not increase public safety or improve national security.

In fact, they violate the human rights of everyone, including law-abiding citizens who are increasingly experiencing state-sponsored violence, illegal apprehension, and indefinite detention without access to counsel, family, or friends.

Words matter, and silence speaks volumes.

When people speak in ways that are discriminatory, racist, and use terms that are intended to anger people.

So I encourage this council.

Allow people to speak, but then put their speak in context.

I don't believe any of you agree with what was said, and silence is agreement.

Do not be silent when that happens the next time.

Sorry.

Next is 1384.

After that is Kathleen Lippin, then the original.

I would like to comment that the five-minute timer has concluded here in Council Chambers.

There are seven speakers in the queue when the timer did go off.

Only the next seven speakers will be taken.

Please proceed.

Hello.

Ernie Casco, senior resident pilot at Tory Pine's Gotterport, former Lahoya Trustee on Tory Pine's Gladerport Subcommittee, United States Coast Guard Auxiliary Hazmat team.

Both La Jolla Town Council and La Jolla Shores Association, resident pilots, and literally hundreds of citizens unanimously unanimously support the reinstatement of Tory Pine's advisory board to stop Cory Pine's Glenport recreational scandal.

We have hundreds of signatures demanding city of San Diego and police authorities take immediate action, reconvene the advisory board and implement the waiver as a working solution to resolve the ongoing dispute.

This crime needs to resolve, be resolved by the crime will continue to remind City Council it is illegal to turn our recreational freedom into a privilege that requires a license in the circumstances.

It is the city's liability and responsibility to resolve the dispute with a legal timely reply, not another rabbit hole.

The San Diego recreational waiver does just that.

It separates your out-of-control snapshot flight direct flight director's dictatorship over the sport of hang gliding and paragliding, isolate safety concerns, allows all parties to remain and operate as a club, leaving the city in control while it secures a city liability.

I have been poisoned with a biohazard over the commercialization of a public park.

I'm under threat of violence, dying of a deadly virus and stage four cancer as your leaseholder has committed genocide.

This is public extortion by a city leaseholder.

Your time is concluded.

My apologies, Kathleen Lippett, if you can please unmute.

Thank you.

Good afternoon, Council.

Kathleen Lippett here.

On behalf of public health and safety, I have advocated for public policies that protect them from unnecessary or unnecessary risk.

Our laws should reflect societal concern for preventing vehicle injuries and deaths from DUIs.

Yet California has continued a decades-long slide to prioritize those who violate the law over the victims.

That is not compassionate.

It is cruel, not just for the victims, but for the victimizers.

If your policies cause harm, it is your responsibility to abandon them.

Count Matters recently reported on their investigation into California's pathetic and impotent treatment of repeat drunk drivers.

The state seems to believe that drivers convicted of DUI should be given more opportunities to kill by allowing them back onto public roads.

Alcohol-related roadway deaths in California have shot up by more than 50% in the past decade, twice that of the rest of the country per federal estimates.

More than 1,300 people die each year statewide in drunken collisions.

Thousands more are injured.

CalMatters reviewed thousands of vehicle manslaughter and homicide cases.

California prosecutors filed since 2019.

And they found that California has some of the weakest DUI laws in the country, allowing these drunk and drug drivers to stay on the road with little punishment.

California drivers generally cannot be charged with a felony until their fourth DUI within 10 years, unless they injure someone.

In some cases, the second DUI can be a felony, but missed opportunities to prevent those who refuse to stop endangering lives, haunt the loved ones of the dead.

Thank you for letting me speak.

Thank you.

Next is the original.

After that, 7499, and then Peggy Walker.

As the city is working at a snail's pace to uncover all of the fraud, waste and abuse happening at Tent City.

There's national, local, and independent exposure that is happening of the atrocities that Dreams for Change and Teresa Smith are engaging in.

In fact, tonight after the game, 10 News investigates is going to be airing a segment regarding the sexual abuse and physical abuse that has been taking place at Tent City that is being uh concealed by the gatekeepers that run it.

And it's very sad to see, but there is a human trafficking, sex trafficking hub that is going and organized outside of Tent City, where employees are picking out women who are participants in the program to have them go to their home, do drugs and alcohol, have sex with them and their friends.

It's very sad to see that this stuff kind of things get hidden, and that the city isn't working at a um as you know, a fast pace to make sure that no more deaths, no more sexual assaults, and no more fraud waste and abuse occurs.

Unfortunately, it's taking the community to come together.

And housing for the homeless was the uh contractor bidding up next to Dreams for Change.

Unfortunately, Dreams for Change and Teresa Smith are in bed with Stephen Whitburn.

They are very good friends.

So the contract went to Dreams for Change and Downtown San Diego Partnership, where deaths and sexual assaults, rat infestations, and many, many things have continued to occur, showing the racketeering that's going on in our city.

Right now, housing for the homeless is putting together a drive for blankets to get together for the winter weather that is coming that has already killed potential or has already called killed participants at Tent City.

So if you can get to blankets together by November 20th and reach out to homes housing for the homeless by the 23rd at Housing For the Homeless at uh.org.

Thank you for that concluding remark.

7499, if you can please unmute.

After that is Peggy Walker, then Francine Maxwell.

7499, I can't unmute for you.

It's star six.

I am gonna have to move on.

Moving on to Peggy Walker, if you can please unmute.

Good afternoon.

You've probably heard of nicotine pouches like Zinn and Velo products advertised as tobacco free.

However, what most people don't know is that they contain addictive nicotine and higher strings than cigarettes, sometimes as much as six times the amount.

I bring this information here because a study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association confirms nicotine pouch use among U.S.

adults remains low while sales are soaring.

The sales increase is attributed to soaring popularity among youth.

Earlier this year, the Food and Drug Administration issued 119 warnings to retailers that were selling Zen to underage kids.

Nicotine pouches seem to be heavily marketed to youth.

The design, which is convenient and concealable, makes it easy for adolescents to start using, according to Von Reese, director of the Center for Global Tobacco Control at Harvard.

The high youth appeal of pouches suggests need to ensure laws preventing underage sales are enforced.

Nicotine disrupts brain development in those under 26, impacts the cardiovascular system, oral health issues like cavities and gum recession and can be carcinogenic.

I encourage the same vigilant enforcement through appropriate penalties for sales to underage youth of high nicotine pouches that though called tobacco free are highly addictive and in some cases may violate flavor bans.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Next is Francine Maxwell.

Good afternoon, Francine Maxwell, Southeastern San Diego.

Wondering when this council is going to really take a deep dive in the climate action plan as it pertains to food security and resilience.

We know that we are in hard times right now, and we are so lucky and appreciative of the Parks Foundation and the garden that they started at a park in Linda Vista, but we have other parks that have been approved.

So given the opportunity, before you go on legislative break for Veterans Day, maybe we can check when and where the next parks that are going to get some gardens so that we could, as a city, absolutely assist our food banks and everything with fresh fruits and vegetables, and we could even employ our youth through the Youth Empower program.

There is a lot of children that want to go into agriculture and they'll be going to college.

And we know that farmers absolutely need to take the place of our senior farmers.

And so we could literally um help our food system, climate resilient, resilient San Diego plan now.

And so hopefully, you know, especially you're going to be paying attention to measure H because we know that child care is absolutely a right, and our recreation centers, some of them are absolutely prime.

But let's talk to the community and get some of their great ideas as well, because it is their children and it is their parks.

So again, we are very appreciative of the park that has a community garden.

We are appreciative of the good food district in Mount Hope, but we also have some opportunities at Mountain View.

So let's check the status of that.

Um we need to get some fruit trees planted right now, and there is space.

There is a lot of space that we could be utilizing, but we just need to move fast through the bureaucracy so that we can get our people fit.

Thank you so much for allowing me to speak.

Thank you.

And our final speaker is Madison.

Hi, thank you for allowing me to speak today.

I'm here to applaud the leadership shown by the town of Tiburon in Marin County, as reported in the San Francisco Chronicle, for taping taking the bold step to ban the sale of all tobacco and nicotine products.

This action is a powerful example of how local governments can protect the health of their communities, especially our youth.

Tiburon's ordinance sends a clear message.

We can prevent addiction before it starts.

By eliminating the sale of vapes, cigarettes, and nicotine pouches, Tiburon is helping to break the cycle of youth nicotine dependence that continues to harm families across California.

Here in San Diego, we've made great progress with flavored tobacco restrictions and public education campaigns, but youth vaping remains a growing concern.

The latest data from counties like Marin show that teen vaping rates can be double the state average.

And we know similar patterns are happening in communities across Southern California.

Every parent and educator can tell you the same thing.

Our young people are being targeted by the nicotine industry with sleek, flavored, and highly addictive products.

Tiburon's approach, banning all tobacco sales while allowing FDA-approved cessation products, prioritize health, not profit.

It's a forward-thinking preventive model that aligns with San Diego's own goals under Live Well San Diego to create healthy, safe, and thriving communities.

Let's build on our progress and ensure that every child in the city can grow up free from nicotine addiction and the harms of tobacco.

Thank you for your continued commitment to protecting our families and future generations.

Thank you.

That concludes on agenda public comment for today's meeting.

All right, thank you, City Clerk.

With that, does the city attorney have anything to report out from closed session?

Thank you, Council President.

There's nothing to report out from closed session.

So with that, I will now turn over to Councilmember Von Wolpert for an adjournment in memory.

Councilmember thank you, Council President.

Today I would like to adjourn our council meeting in memory of Julio de Guzman Jr., who is a devoted husband, father, grandfather, and a respected community leader who passed away on October 17, 2025, surrounded by his loving family here in San Diego, California.

He was 74 years old, just 10 days shy of his 75th birthday.

Born in the Philippines on October 27th in 1950, Julio immigrated with his parents to the United States at the age of four years old, first to Hawaii and later to San Diego, the city he proudly called home for the rest of his life.

For a young age, Julio lived by the values of faith, family, and service, principles instilled in him by his father, a U.S.

Navy service member.

After attending San Diego State University on a wrestling scholarship and graduating in 1973 with a degree in criminal justice, Julio began his lifelong career in public service as a deputy probation officer for the County of San Diego.

In 1982, he joined the U.S.

Naval Criminal Investigative Service, NCIS, as a special agent, one of the very first Filipino Americans to ever serve in that capacity.

His distinguished career took him across the world, including an assignment at a U.S.

Embassy in Manila, where he conducted counterintelligence anti-corruption operations with integrity and courage.

Julio later served as senior special agent with the U.S.

Department of Defense Office of Inspector General, where his investigations into fraud and corruption led to dozens of successful prosecutions and national recognition.

He concluded his professional service with the San Diego City Attorney's Office, where he worked as both a criminal investigator and community relations director until his retirement in 2018.

In total, Julio devoted over 45 years to government services, a legacy of integrity, perseverance, and compassion for others.

Beyond his professional achievements, Julio was a pillar of the Filipino American community and a dedicated civil civic leader.

He served as president of the Pan Ascendian Association of San Diego, President of the Malasacwai Association of San Diego County, and District Governor of the Lions Club International, District 4-L6, representing neither nearly 50 clubs and over 1,300 members across San Diego and Imperial counties.

As a founding member of the Filipino American Law Enforcement Officers Association, an active participant in the San San Diego Pan Pacific Law Enforcement Association and the Knights of Columbus, Julio built lasting bonds through friendship, mentorship, and faith-led service.

His leadership in each of these organizations reflected the Lions' enduring motto, we serve.

He was also deeply involved in local politics and civil engagement, believing that leadership meant active participation in our democracy and the pursuit of integrity and public service.

Julio's personal life was filled with the same spirit of love, dedication, and discipline that guided his public service.

He served on school boards, parent committees, coach wrestling, was a lifelong lover of snow skiing.

He also served as proudly on the San Diego County Republican Central Committee and spearheaded many many operations for his campaigns as of friends and colleagues.

Family was Julio's greatest joy and proudest achievement.

He set an enduring example for his community and loved ones through his sincere devotion, devotion to his siblings and extended family.

His presence at every gathering, his willingness to collaborate with others, and his steady support reflected the severe compassion he shared with everyone he served.

Julio was survived by his beloved life of 28 years, Lisa, his children Christopher, Jonathan, Marissa, and Donald, and his cherished grandson Noah.

He is also remembered with love by his brothers, sister, extended family, and countless friends who are touched by his generosity, leadership, warm heart, and enduring presence.

Those who knew Julio will remember his humility, humor, tireless dedication to helping others, whether serving his country, mentoring youth, or volunteering in his community, he lived by his own simple motto.

Work hard and keep on working.

Thank you very much, and I'm so sorry to Julio's family for their loss.

Thank you, Councilmember Von Wolbert.

Sorry for your loss.

I have fond memories of Julio coming out as a community rep for the city attorney's office to La Jolla organizations, always full of candor and humor in his presentations.

May us all rest in peace.

Thank you.

With that, we will now adjourn council to the next regular regular council meeting on Tuesday, November 4th, 2025 at 10 a.m.