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City Council Meeting, March 17, 2026: Proclamations, Housing, and IHRA Vote

City CouncilTuesday, March 17, 2026
BodySan Diego, California
SessionCity Council
DateTuesday, March 17, 2026
StatusFILED
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And I will now call the city council meeting of Tuesday, March 17th, 2026 to order.

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Clerk, please call the role.

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Thank you, Council President.

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Councilmember Campbell.

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Councilmember Whitburn.

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Here.

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Councilmember Foster.

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Councilmember Von Wilper.

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Council President Pro Tem Lee.

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Here.

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Councilmember Campio.

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Here.

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Councilmember Moreno.

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Councilmember Elo Rivera.

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And Council President Lacava.

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Present.

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Also attending the meeting or Chief Deputy City Attorney Tina Ray, Deputy Director in the IBA's office, Jillian Andalina, and myself, your city clerk, Deanna Fuentes.

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Thank you, Council President.

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All right, thank you, City Clerk.

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A quorum is now present.

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We will begin this morning with the land acknowledgement and the pledge of allegiance led by Councilmember Whitburn.

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We respectfully acknowledge that the Cobia Day should are the original inhabitants of the unceded land, thou notice Saint Diego.

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Despite enduring the horrors of genocide and colonization, the Cubia spirit remains unbroken.

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We honor the resilience of their ancestors who fought to protect their culture and land.

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Today they carry their legacy forward, ensuring that their traditions continue to thrive at gratitude and strength.

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We stand with the Kobe Idation, connected to our past and committed to a thriving future.

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Please face the flag.

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Ready?

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Begin.

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I fly to the flag of the United States of America.

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And to your public for which it stands.

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Thank you, Council President.

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I'd like to highlight the slide on the screen that reviews how the public can offer their public testimony during today's meeting.

1:49

Please note the time allocations for proclamations and consent items for meeting management purposes.

1:54

The order can be found on the agenda summary found online or at the table in the back of the room.

1:59

If you're in person, please complete a speaker slip located at the entrance of chambers and bring it to the front of the room in the clear box.

2:05

Council ambassadors are available near the entrance and can assist with questions and speaker slips.

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No further in-person testimony will be taken once the council begins virtual testimony.

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Thank you, Council President.

2:15

All right, thank you.

2:16

We will now dispense with the approval of the proclamation items.

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Please introduce them, clerk, and proceed with public comment.

2:22

Thank you.

2:23

The public comment period for the proclamation items is now open.

2:26

Each speaker will have one minute per item per person.

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If you would like to speak on three or more items, you will have a maximum of three minutes.

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So now is the time to please submit your speaker slip to the clear box.

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I do see one in the clear box now.

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As well as if you are attending virtually, please be sure to raise your hand by pressing star nine or the raise your hand icon.

2:44

The proclamation items being approved are items 30 through 32, S501, and S502.

2:51

Starting with Jacob Edwards, if you can please come forward, you'll have one minute.

2:55

You're speaking on item 31.

2:57

After Jacob Edwards, we have allegedly Audra.

3:01

If you can please come to the yellow reserve seats as well.

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And then Jaime Rangel, if you can come up to the yellow reserve seats.

3:10

Jacob, you can come up to the podium.

3:13

Good morning.

3:13

Thank you, City Council, for what you do for the city of San Diego.

3:17

Um is this open discussion or is this on 31?

3:21

This is on 31.

3:23

Okay, and uh very important day to recognize.

3:27

Uh the police department is to serve and protect citizens.

3:31

My last appearance here.

3:34

I discuss with you and uh non-agenda public comment, one of the last assassination attempts against me.

3:43

I've been through an awful lot.

3:46

It took police three days to respond.

3:50

Three days.

3:52

I met them out front, and they gave me this event number.

3:58

There was nothing but a number and a date on it.

4:01

I was told here's your case number, and it's going to be fully investigated.

4:06

I went to the police department later that day to follow up and give more information.

4:11

I was told this isn't a case number, sir.

4:14

This is an event number.

4:16

It won't be investigated at all.

4:19

Thank you.

4:19

Allegedly, Audra, you're speaking on item 30.

4:25

And that's my final one.

4:27

Okay.

4:28

You'll have two minutes, please proceed.

4:30

All right, so for this transgender day of visibility, this is probably not gonna fall you know well with certain people, but we just had women's history month, and we've redefined what a woman is, allowing men to also engage in that.

4:45

So I find that it's interesting that we can change history in a way like that when there's already days of visibility, transgender like all of these days that get celebrated, but it's like it's a disservice to women to change what a woman is and allow anybody to basically engage in that time.

5:05

And I just I feel like it's disrespectful, and they're trying to people are trying to erase what a woman is.

5:11

And so it's like, how can you even be proud of something like that when any of you men up there could um claim that you identify as that and then take that day from the women that were born that way?

5:22

So, you know, when we're trying to change things like this, I think it's very dangerous, and it leads down a path of erasing people.

5:29

And then for National Nutrition Month, I find it interesting that there's so many things that are toxic in our foods and um even in the water that you guys want to give us.

5:41

But you know, if we started thinking about all of these countries that have actually banned certain foods or chemicals and things that are in our food, I feel like you guys should be concentrating on that kind of stuff and making sure that we don't have that to consume.

5:57

Instead, it's a lot about making money.

6:00

It's whatever you know floats the boat of the money machine.

6:03

And that's what's sad is that you guys want to perpetrate as though you care about nutrition when in fact there's look at your vending machine.

6:11

If you did, why would you have all of those things in there?

6:14

Wouldn't you change what was in there and make sure that everything that is is something that is nutritious for the people?

6:20

I mean, all of these things affect people's brains, and it's like that's why we have a bunch of zombies that you come and talk to, and you can't even, you know, get a reaction except for Stephen Whitburn.

6:30

When I tell him someone died in his district, he'll laugh at me.

6:33

So yeah.

6:35

Next is Jaime Rankin on item S501.

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Hi, thank you for having me.

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National Nutrition Month recognizes that important role that nutrition professionals play in improving the health and well-being of our communities.

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Registered dietitians and dietetic technicians provide evidence-based guidance education and programs that help individuals and their families build healthier lives.

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Organizations like the California Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, San Diego District support this work by bringing professionals together to advance nutrition education, strengthen community partnerships, and promote healthier communities across San Diego.

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Thank you for having us.

7:19

Thank you.

7:20

And Christian, Christiane Hoffman, Frank.

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You'll be speaking on item 30.

7:32

Good morning, happy St.

7:34

Patrick's Day.

7:35

I just want to speak in support of item 30, trans day of visibility.

7:40

I would like those who are present physically, uh virtually, and maybe watching this later to know trans people are not just having a moment.

7:47

This is not a trend, this is not a phase.

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They are here, they are here to stay, they have rights.

7:53

Everyone has inherent human dignity, and I am here to support them.

7:56

Thank you.

7:58

Thank you.

7:59

I sorry the five-minute time are going to those participating remotely.

8:02

We currently have three speakers in the queue.

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Please be sure to let me know which item or items you wish to speak to.

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8700, if you can please unmute after that is Francine Maxwell.

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Uh thank you, uh Joyce and Yada C D3, 3032 and 501, please.

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Three minutes, please proceed.

8:23

Thank you.

8:25

All right.

8:26

Um the woman that just spoke, she said extremely beautiful words on 30.

8:32

She said, inherent dignity.

8:35

Wow, thank you.

8:37

Inherent dignity.

8:39

So I wanted to say this.

8:42

Uh almost every day I wonder how did I come into the family, into the state, into my life, uh, that it is.

8:53

And believe me, it's been bumpy.

8:56

And uh transgender visibility, of course, inherent dignity.

9:05

I I just celebrate myself.

9:08

I celebrate each of you.

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I celebrate all people.

9:12

Thank you so much.

9:13

Love to all.

9:14

Now, 32, which is a Ramadan month.

9:18

Uh for years, I have had an opportunity to know a person that celebrates uh Ramadan uh not celebrates, he does it.

9:29

He absolutely dedicates himself to the very stringent parts of it that are offered to them.

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And and I'm just amazed at what he does and how he comes out of that month.

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So I celebrate all of the people that uh honor that, and uh they're just part of our diverse uh culture in the world, and we love and celebrate all of us.

9:54

Uh and the last one, National Nutrition Month.

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Thank you, California Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics for your research, for your education, and for your advocacy.

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You help California be the beautiful healthy state.

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We strive for all of us people.

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Yes, to discover the power of nutrition.

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It's going to be a beautiful day.

10:21

Happy St.

10:22

Pat's Day and St.

10:24

Patrick's Day and love to all.

10:27

Thank you.

10:27

Next is Francine Maxwell.

10:29

If you can please let me know which item or items you wish to speak to.

10:33

I am so sorry.

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I didn't put my numbers, but um my captain, SDPD in nutrition.

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You'll have two minutes, please proceed.

10:43

Good morning.

10:44

Francine Maxwell, Southeastern San Diego.

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Want to thank um and support fully the Nutrition Month, Project New Village, um, food insecurity.

10:54

This is um an awesome time, and we're looking forward to the next generation.

10:59

Um, they have already become new growers, and so just the fact that they're going to be exploring the agricultural jobs and things like that is just going to be a wonderful thing.

11:10

To one of my favorite captains, Jerry Hare.

11:14

Thank you so much for the years of service.

11:16

Thank your family for sharing you with us.

11:19

You were 21st century policing.

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You can write the book on how to build a bridge between community and the police department.

11:29

So much you've done to increase relationships.

11:33

So much you've done behind the scenes, helped countless families that did not go on notice, but was never spoken in public again for the nights that you would answer the calls of Southeastern San Diego for the opportunities that you have shown people to come and get tours of the dispatch so that they could get their minds wrapped around a career.

11:58

And even though you have mentored people that have failed the test, you still give them encouragement.

12:06

You will be missed.

12:09

Well deserved rest and celebration.

12:12

I am in full support of this proclamation.

12:15

You are a cut from a different cloth, and you know it, and just so appreciative of um being able to experience the times with you, have a great time.

12:27

Thank you so much for allowing me to speak.

12:29

Thank you for the record that was items S501 and S502.

12:32

Zoom user, if you can please unmute and let me know which item or items you wish to speak to.

12:38

501 and 502.

12:40

And um I'm I'm like talking about let's uh let's make San Diego great again.

12:48

When I was a kid in the 50s and 60s, San Diego was great.

12:52

Even Mexico was great.

12:55

When I was growing up, Mexico made their submarines out of Adobe.

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Now they're making them out of steel and putting drugs in.

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Let's make Mexico great again and San Diego too, man.

13:09

We've got to clear the board, get some guys that want to uh start quit defining words is like how can you have dignity with transgender?

13:19

It just doesn't make sense to me.

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You know, growing up that was not two words you would speak together.

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But uh, we all could have some more dignity in our lives, but uh when we start changing all the definitions of everything, there is no dignity.

13:38

Anyway, I think they need to get some counseling, they need help, man.

13:43

They're just hopeless sinners.

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That's all they are.

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They need the Lord, just like everybody else does, including myself.

13:51

And just come to Jesus moment.

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You don't have to cut off your dick or grow up heratre.

13:58

You know, it's just come on, man.

14:00

Get out night and start praying.

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Get down on your knees and pray.

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Even the guys that condone that stuff better get down on your knees and pray.

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Because God might be holding you more accountable, man.

14:12

You know it's a lie.

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You know, quit lying to everybody, man.

14:17

Anyway, have a good day.

14:18

Thanks.

14:19

Our next speaker is Blair Beekman.

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If you can please unmute and let me know which item or items you wish to speak to.

14:25

Blair, before you Blair, before you jump in.

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Uh, please remember that people uh children might be watching this in the language that you use.

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There's plenty of ways to convey your thoughts and your values, but please remember who might be watching.

14:37

Thank you.

14:38

I'll also just note the five-minute timer did conclude.

14:40

Blair Beekman is our final speaker.

14:42

Blair, please proceed.

14:44

Hi, thank you, Blair Bequin.

14:45

Yeah, I'm all for freedom of speech.

14:47

Uh, a good decorum for public meetings is nice.

14:50

A language we can all uh be agreeable to.

14:53

Uh feel safe, but thank you.

14:55

Uh, I wanted to comment that um items 31 and 32.

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The uh one is the uh captain day, uh uh the captain.

15:08

Okay, great, thank you.

15:09

Yeah, uh 31 is the captain, and uh we had a good public meeting yesterday on um uh public safety issues, uh police crime issues.

15:19

Really nice questions by uh councilperson uh von Wolpert, by the way.

15:23

Uh it reminded me that you know we can have uh if we have good conversations with our police, that's so key right now, especially at this time uh uh we're in a very questionable time.

15:36

Um to practice de escalation, have that in check, and that we get that option is available when working towards those things for police.

15:45

Um it's important.

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And uh Councilperson von Wilpert tried to ask something of that yesterday.

15:51

Uh it's really important.

15:53

And uh police are there to want to have those conversations if if we want to have them ourselves.

15:59

So good luck that we have good dialogue, and it sounds like a really good person is retiring, and uh it's that sort of level of conversation and good dialogue we need continuously.

16:10

Good luck we work on those efforts together.

16:13

Uh for the um other item uh 32, Ramadan month.

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Um as we are in, we are in a new state of war with a conservative uh state of Israel.

16:26

They're basically changing the game of how we're gonna be talking about the Middle East.

16:30

Um this isn't uh a progressive lives anymore.

16:34

We're dealing with a very conservative nature.

16:36

We have to really be patient.

16:38

Good luck how we can talk about Ramadan.

16:40

There isn't any Ramadan speakers here so far.

16:43

Well, you're doing public comment first.

16:45

I hope there are people from uh the Islamic faith here.

16:48

It's it's like the majority religion in the world, it's a large proportion of the world uh religion.

16:53

Um for them to be here at the meeting today is important.

16:57

You had only spoken about the two items.

17:00

Yes.

17:00

Uh that was the two items.

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Thank you.

17:03

Thank you.

17:03

That does conclude public comment on proclamations.

17:05

All right, thank you, City Clerk.

17:07

Uh, we'll now turn it over to my council colleagues for comments and entertain a motion, and we'll start with Councilmember Elo Rivera.

17:15

All right.

17:15

Uh thank you, Council President.

17:17

Um I um will be speaking about um Ramadan month.

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I I will um start by saying how much I appreciate everyone uh who's here um uh uh from our Muslim community um and the deep appreciation and respect that I have for the San Diego Muslim community.

17:41

Um how impressive the commitment, not just to faith, but to community uh and family um is during all times of the year, but especially during this this month of Ramadan.

17:55

There's a a little um story I want to share.

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Um because I think it just like really embodies the the spirit of the Muslim community during um again all times, but especially during Ramadan.

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I attended an Iftar a few weeks ago, and um after dinner, my battery had died in my car.

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And worth remembering that the folks um who were there had been fasting all day, had just broke their fast.

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Um the collective um effort from children who were there to elders who were there to help me get my car started and um get um get home.

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Um at the end of a long day, again, that's that it that's um included a day-long fast that includes not drinking water.

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I just think was like it was it like was moving to me uh because again it was such a demonstration of um of putting faith and into action.

19:03

Um demonstrative of everything I've seen from um the Muslim community here in San Diego and and and my own family as well.

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Um so especially during these times um when uh communities are under attack.

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I think it's important to um acknowledge and pay respect to uh and honor um people of all faiths and all backgrounds, and today is an important day for the Muslim community.

19:36

This month is an important month for the Muslim community, and I'm glad they were able to bring uh this proclamation forward.

19:42

Um so thank you to everyone from the communities who's here.

19:46

Um very quickly on Transgender Day of Visibility.

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Uh thank you to uh Councilmember Campbell, Councilmember Whitburn, and Councilmore Von Wolpert for bringing this forward in partnership with Mayor.

20:00

Um we transgender people are worthy of dignity and respect and appreciation and care and love because they are people, and that should not need to be said, but we just heard loud and clear why it's so important for us to um to say it and to take action where as a as a city we share our love and appreciation, respect for the transgender community.

20:27

Um while First Amendment rights are clearly um uh being exercised.

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Just know that um the folks who call in and disparage uh members of the transgender community by no means um represent a majority of the city.

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They certainly don't represent the official position of this city.

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Um we see you, we honor you, we love you, we appreciate you, um, and no public comment can change that.

20:55

Um so with that, Council President, uh, I will move approval of the proclamations.

21:01

Thank you.

21:01

All right, thank you, sir.

21:02

So we have a motion by Councilmember Elo Rivera to move the proclamations.

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We'll go next to Councilmember Campbell.

21:09

Thank you so much, Council President.

21:11

Uh, first of all, I'd like to second the motion to approve the proclamations.

21:16

And I would like to uh thank Captain Harvey for all the years of service and wish him a happy retirement.

21:24

Uh uh I would like to say happy Ramadan and end of Ramadan, happy hide, the end day of Ramadan.

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I really uh have great respect uh for the Muslim religion.

21:39

I have family members who are Muslim.

21:41

I have family members who are everything, you name it, we got it all.

21:45

We're like the we're like the rest of the world, you know, we're just completely mixed up with everything, and everybody loves everybody, and that's how it should be.

21:53

Everyone is their authentic self.

21:56

And guess what, Lady Gaga said?

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We're born that way.

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And so that's the way we need to be in order to find our fulfillment and our happiness as human beings.

22:08

So, first of all, I want to speak about National Nutrition Month because I'm a family physician and we know food is medicine, right?

22:16

All the mothers here know that, and all the kids know that.

22:19

I hope all the dads know that too.

22:21

It is one of the most basic things uh to improve a person's life access to healthy nutritious food from newborns to older adults, proper nutrition prevents long-term health conditions like heart disease and diabetes.

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On a day-to-day basis, it can boost your immune system and keep you healthier.

22:41

National Nutrition Month is also a good time to recognize organizations that provide nutrition like Meals on Wheels are one of my favorites and love to deliver meals with them.

22:51

I think when I retire, that's gonna be one of my things.

22:54

This service allows residents uh who need it to have a healthy nutritious meals delivered right to their front door to improve their health and giving them moments of connection with those who volunteer to do the deliveries.

23:08

There's so many wonderful organizations across our city who provide access to proper nutrition for those who need who need it.

23:17

And I want them to keep up the good work and know that another volunteer is on the way pretty soon when she retires.

23:26

I'd like to speak on Transgender Day of Visibility.

23:30

I want to thank Mayor Gloria and my colleagues, Councilmembers Whitburn and Von Wilpert for joining me in the proclaiming this.

23:37

March 31, 2026, transgender day of visibility.

23:42

March 31 is internationally observed as this day of visibility.

23:48

A day we observe the cellar and celebrate the rich history and culture of transgender individuals and paving the way for greater recognition and affirmation of transgender people.

24:00

I think it's just a matter of people understanding that some of us are not born in the in the body that is their inner knowing is their body, and that's where transgender comes in.

24:15

And that people are people, and it doesn't matter if you're transgender, you are born that way.

24:22

And currently the transgender community is being attacked, and we have to stand up for them to be their authentic selves.

24:29

Today, this city confirms its responsibility to stand in solidarity with our transgender community, to speak out against hate of anyone, and to foster a culture of belonging and respect for all.

24:45

And as I have said before, and I will always say I want the transgender community to know that I see you, I hear you, I love you, I respect you.

24:55

And more importantly, this city council and mayor honors and celebrates all the wonderful contributions you bring to our city of San Diego.

25:05

Thank you, Council President.

25:07

All right, thank you, Councilmember.

25:08

So we have a motion by Councilmember Ila Rivera and a second by Councilmember Campbell to approve the proclamations.

25:14

We'll go next to Councilmember Campier.

25:16

Thank you, Council President.

25:17

Thank you to members of the public for being here today in chambers.

25:20

First, I want to start with Captain Jerry Hara.

25:23

It said it before, and I'll say it again those who risk their lives for others deserve our praise and our salute, and you did that for 33 years.

25:30

So thank you so much.

25:31

We're sad to lose such a great leader with so much experience and quite frankly one of our most trained sworn officers in the entire department.

25:39

But congratulations on your retirement and God bless you and your family.

25:43

On Transgender Day of Visibility, I want to thank the various organizations that are here today in support of folks who are doing nothing more than just trying to be themselves.

26:02

They don't just help only trans people, they help everyone who walks through their doors with education and food and resources, funding, job support, many other important things you name it.

26:13

So I want to thank them and wish them strength on Transgender Day of Visibility.

26:18

Today I'm also bringing forth uh for a constituent of mine who's been a leader for many, many years, Shane Hogg.

26:24

Uh he is uh I'm honored to proclaim April 6th, 2026 as Shane Hog Day.

26:28

Uh Shane has been driving uh been a really an important leader throughout decades in Allied Gardens and in Grantville on the community council.

26:39

He's brought so many people together, and he makes sure residents have a voice in the decisions that shape their neighborhood, and he has certainly educated me on many things in the neighborhood.

26:47

Under his leadership, the council strengthened communication and outreach, created more opportunities for engagement, championed projects that make a real difference in the beautification of the neighborhood tree planting in support of the rehabilitation of Navajo Canyon and so much more.

27:03

Uh what stands out to me the most is his dedication.

27:05

Uh, since before I took office, he has consistently shown up and listened and worked to improve the quality of life for everyone in the Navajo region.

27:13

As he steps down as chair, we recognize not just his accomplishments, but the lasting impacts of his leadership, and I'm honored to proclaim April 6th in his honor.

27:21

So, Shane, thank you for your service and everything you've done for Allied Gardens and Grantville and all of San Diego.

27:26

And lastly, for Ramadan, we recognize the holy month of Ramadan.

27:30

We honor a time of reflection and compassion and community for Muslim families here in San Diego and across the world.

27:36

Of course, Ramadan is rooted in the values of faith and generosity, sacrifice and service.

27:42

And after my comments last week, these are values that strengthen our neighborhoods and bring San Diego together.

27:47

This recognition is deeply personal to me as well, with my Muslim family members being a vital part of my life and who I am.

27:54

And while many of them I have been fasting this month, engaging in a day fast was difficult enough for me as an ordinary person.

28:02

I did not go all day without drinking water.

28:04

So just imagine how hard it is to do that for a month.

28:07

And whether it's Persian or Arab or Somali or any other ethnicity, every ethnicity has members of the Muslim faith.

28:14

The common thread of sacrifice and service during this month is inspiring.

28:18

And in District 7, I want to highlight the Sarah Mesa community, home of the Afghan Community Islamic Center, which serves as a vital gathering place for many local families.

28:27

During Ramadan, spaces like this become even more meaningful as they bring people together for prayer, reflection, and shared meals.

28:34

Ramadan reminds us of the importance of empathy, community, and building a more inclusive San Diego for all.

28:40

So to everyone who is observing Ramadan Moburac.

28:43

Thank you, Council President.

28:44

All right.

28:44

Thank you, Councilmember Campillo.

28:45

We'll go next to Councilmember Von Wilbert.

28:49

Thank you to my colleagues as always for bringing forth wonderful proclamations for wonderful things to celebrate in our city and wonderful people to celebrate in our city.

28:57

I'll start with item 30, which is Transgender Day of Visibility.

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I am very proud to join Mayor Ta Gloria and Council Members Jennifer Campbell and Stephen Whitburn in recognizing Transgender Day of Visibility once again in this city on March 31st.

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Today we get to celebrate the lives, resilience, achievements of transgender and non-binary people in our community, and we affirm that they belong in every part of our civic life, whether it's here in the city hall up to Congress and the US United States government.

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Transgender and non-binary residents contribute every day to our cultural, civic and economic strength of San Diego's educators, healthcowers, artists, entrepreneurs, and public servants, including police officers.

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Transgender Day of Visibility was created in 2009 by activist Rachel Crandall to celebrate trans people while raising awareness about the discrimination and violence people still face today.

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The City of San Diego remains committed to policies that promote dignity, safety, and inclusion so that all of us can live authentically and free from fear.

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I'm grateful for the leadership of our local organizations, including Trans Family Support Services, Trans Latinas, Transgender Health and Wellness Center, including also San Diego Pride, our LGBT center who's here as well, and all the individuals who are affirming that the city of San Diego stands against hate and with community where everyone is valued.

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And as Dr.

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Jen Campbell said, we were all born this way.

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Thank you to Lady Gaga.

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Also for um Ramadan month on item 32.

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Thank you to my colleagues for bringing forward item 32 today.

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I also want to take a moment to recognize the beautiful observance of Ramadan.

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Ramadan is the ninth month of the Exam is Islamic lunar calendar and is a sacred time of fasting, prayer, and refresh reflection for Muslims around the world.

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As this month continues, many have been observing a daily fast, as Councillor Campio said is very hard to do.

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I too have attempted to fast, and I couldn't even go a half a day without drinking water.

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So I appreciate the sacrifice it takes.

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Also, Ramadan emphasizes service to others, including supporting those in need and giving back to the community.

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It's a time of connection as families and neighbors gather in the evening to break their fast and spend time together.

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Uh here in San Diego, we are very fortunate to have a very vibrant Muslim community that contributes in meaningful ways across our city.

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And I feel that it's more important than ever that we are celebrating Ramadan in this chambers because of the rise in unadulterated bigotry we are seeing in this country against our Muslim brothers and sisters.

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There are elected officials to the United States Senate and United States House of Representatives, mainly in states in the deep south, who are making unadulterated, bigoted statements about our Muslim community right now, and it is extremely dangerous.

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It's all not only dangerous for our mothers, brother for our Muslim community, but also for America.

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Fomenting bigotry and hate can lead to violence that will impact all of our communities, put our public safety responders at risk, and take away our rights to First Amendment expression and freedom of religion.

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So I am very proud we are celebrating our diverse cultures here in San Diego, including our beautiful Somali, Afghan, Persian, and all community members today.

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Finally, with item 31, Captain Jerry Hara.

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I cannot believe it's time for you to retire.

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I am very, very proud to join Mayor Todd Gloria in recognizing Captain Jerry Hara and celebrating his outstanding career to the serving the people of the city of San Diego.

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I also know we have some incredible 911 dispatchers in the room today.

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So if our dispatchers could please stand, we'd love to recognize you.

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I highly encourage the public to go on a tour of our 911 dispatch center, because those are the folks who answer the phone in our most harrowing moments.

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And I've seen them have to use multiple computers and phones that are on either sides of their head for the public to call in the victim stories and then dispatch to PD or the ambulance, uh, the information going on.

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Some of them even have foot pedals in addition to hand controls.

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It's very impressive.

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So Captain Hara began his career with the San Diego Police Department as a police cadet and joined as a recruit in the 25th Regional Academy class in 1993 when he was 10.

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Um three decades, he built a career defined by leadership, dedication, and service.

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He has served in many roles, including patrol, operational support, air support, watch commander, background investigations, and in-service training.

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And he twice led the dispatch division as a commanding officer.

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Captain Hera also took on some of the department's most challenging assignments, including serving on the special weapons and tactics teams, the honor guard, and the peer support and wellness teams, supporting his colleagues through very difficult moments in their lives and careers.

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He invested in his professional development as a graduate of the Federal Bureau of Investigation Academy and through his leadership as past president of the National Latino Police Officer Association.

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I'm almost done.

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Over the years, his service has been recognized with numerous commendation certificates, community awards.

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Captain Hara has mentored more than a thousand department members through the city's promotional process, helping guide and prepare the next generation.

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As Captain Hara retires on April 2nd, we thank him dearly for more than 30 years of service, mentorship, and dedication to public safety.

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We are proud to proclaim this day, Captain Jerry Haraday in the city of San Diego.

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And Jerry, come on up if you want to make any more comments.

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Thank you so much.

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I apologize.

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Uh I tweaked my ankle just uh a couple days ago, so I'd be in uniform, but uh it's part of getting old.

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Um first and foremost, I just want to thank God and Jesus Christ, my savior, who's gotten me through the 33 years of incredible um fun, but also incredible evil or hardship.

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Um I want to thank my wife, my family.

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They're all here, my best friends, uh, my best friend Jeff right there, my brother.

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Um this work is hard.

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Uh there are birthdays that I missed, there's Christmases I missed, there's Fourth of July, picnics I missed, but it was all for a great, great cause.

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It's to keep San Diego safe.

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There's a reason why San Diego's uh one of our the largest, safest city in the United States.

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It's because of all those people right there in blue and the dispatchers right there.

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Um my 33 to 35 years on this department.

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You guys have one of the best command staffs I have ever seen in 35 years.

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So even though I'm retiring, I know and have trained and mentored a lot of chiefs and a lot of captains there.

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You guys are gonna be just fine.

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My last thing is uh dispatcher week is next month, so please come on by.

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Uh come and check us out.

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I know several council members came last year.

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Thank you for that.

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Uh, they do a harrowing job.

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You have the second uh largest comm center in the state of California, but the highest performing comm center in all of California.

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Uh, we are answering 911 in three seconds or less.

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That is incredible.

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What's we've come a long way.

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So again, I want to thank the city council for all of your support over the years.

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You guys have been amazing, and God bless you all.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Council President.

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And I'll add one more thing.

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I I encourage folks to come up on Christmas to Maritage Court, which is, I think, in Councilmember Lee's district now.

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But I will say that Captain Hara has the most incredible Star Wars Christmas display you ever want to see, uh, including a talking uh Wookiee.

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So uh thank you again, Captain, for your service, and thank you, Council President.

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All right, that's a date.

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Mark that day on your calendar.

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Uh uh, thank you, Councilmember Von Wolpert.

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We'll go next to Councilmember Whitburn.

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Thank you, Council President.

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Uh, and congratulations to all of those who are being honored with uh proclamations today.

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I'll speak to a few of them.

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On item 30, I am pleased to join the mayor and council members Campbell and von Wilpert in bringing forward the proclamation declaring March 31st Transgender Day of Visibility in San Diego.

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As transgender individuals face growing challenges at the federal level and in some cases here in San Diego, uh, we must stand together and affirm their dignity, acknowledge their experiences, and defend their right to live openly and authentically.

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I am grateful that this council and our mayor remain committed to speaking out against discrimination and standing in solidarity with our transgender community, whether those challenges arise at the federal level or here at home.

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Our transgender community is vibrant, resilient, and essential to our city.

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Over 20 years ago, the city of San Diego added protections for the transgender community to our human dignity ordinance.

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I think that is a point of pride for our city.

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And I want to thank some of the many community organizations here in San Diego who work every day to uplift and support our transgender community, including the San Diego LGBT Community Center, Proyecto Translastinas, Trans Families Support Services, the Transgender Health and Wellness Center, San Diego Pride, and a number of others.

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And I would like to invite Guile, who is the Center's Project Trans Case Manager and Pure Support Advocate to come up and say a few words.

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Hello, everyone.

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Thank you for having us here today.

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Transgender day visibility was created in 2009 by activist Rachel Crandall Crocker.

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She founded this day in response to the lack of LGBTQ plus recognition, specifically for transgender people, and out of the frustration that the only widely known transcensored observance at the time was Transgender Day remembrance.

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She envisioned a day that not only honor those lost to anti-trans violence, but also celebrated the lives, joy, and resilience of transgender people who are here today.

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Transgender day visibility is meant to do exactly that.

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Its purpose is to promote visibility, empower transgender people, including those who may feel unseen even within their own communities, and including the face of adversity and bigotry.

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May this day continue to remind us that transgender, non-binary, and gender-variant people have always been at the forefront of movements for justice and liberation.

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May it serve as a reminder that our leadership, our creativity, and our courage continue to shape our future.

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Thank you to mayor and council members Campbell Whipper and Val Weber for bringing this forward and recognizing TDOV in the city of San Diego.

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I hope that everyone in this room continues to show up as comrades to the community and to stay engaged in the movement.

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Thank you.

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Thank you for those beautiful words.

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And thanks to each of you for being here at Council Chambers today.

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It is an honor and a privilege to have you with us this morning and thank you for all that you do to contribute to our San Diego community.

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Thank you again.

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Item 31, uh Jerry Hara Day in the City of San Diego.

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I too want to congratulate Captain Hara on his well-deserved retirement after 33 years of service to our city.

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Thank you for all those years of helping to keep our community safe and helping San Diegans in their most difficult moments.

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I am sure that uh your leadership is one of the reasons that you were recognized with a lifetime membership by the National Latino Police Officers Association, and certainly uh all would agree that you will be greatly missed on the police force.

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I also want to thank Council President Pro Tab Lee and Council members Foster, Campillo, and Ila Rivera for bringing forward item 32, Ramadan month.

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Uh this month serves as an act of worship for millions of Muslims around the world and here in San Diego.

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And I want to recognize and thank our Muslim community for the many contributions they make to the cultural and civic life of our city.

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I wish everyone observing a meaningful and peaceful Rabadad, Ramadan Mubarak.

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Thank you, Council President.

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All right, thank you, Councilmember Whitburn.

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We'll go next to Councilmember Foster.

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Uh yes, thank you, um, Council President, and um just congratulations to all of the uh proclamation um recipients.

41:42

Um I do have comments on just a few.

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Um I'll start with item 30, Transgender Day of Visibility.

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Um, thank you to the mayor, Councilmember Campbell, Councilmember Whitburn, and Von Wilbert for bringing forward this recognition.

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Transgender Transgender Day of Visibility is an opportunity to recognize the contributions of transgender and non-binary individuals who help strengthen communities across San Diego and beyond.

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Today also serves as a reminder of the importance of continuing to build a city where every resident is treated with dignity and respect.

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I join my colleagues in acknowledging Transgender Day of Visibility and the many individuals and organizations who continue working toward a more inclusive San Diego.

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Um moving on to Captain Jerry Hara Day.

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Um congratulations Captain Hara for your many years of service to the city of San Diego.

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Captain Hara dedicated more than three decades to public safety, serving in a wide range of roles and helping support both the officers he worked alongside and the communities they served.

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Throughout his career, he spent time serving neighborhoods across the city, including communities in southeastern San Diego, helping ensure residents felt protected and supported.

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Captain Hara, enjoy your retirement, and thank you to you and your family for 33 years of service to the people of San Diego.

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And I'll say you are one of those captains that I made those late phone calls to, 10 PM and beyond, and you always took my call and took care of what needed to be taken care of.

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So thank you for your service and your commitment to Southeastern Division.

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Um also moving on to item 32, Ramadan Month.

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Today I'm proud to join Council President Pro Temp Kent Lee, Campillo, and Councilmember Ila Rivera in bringing forward this recognition of Ramadan and acknowledging the many Muslim neighborhoods, neighbors observing this month in San Diego.

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San Diego is a diverse city, and part of our responsibility as a council is to recognize and respect the traditions and cultural practices that are important to the communities we serve.

43:45

In District 4 and across San Diego, our Muslim neighbors are an important part of the fabric of our neighborhoods, contributing every day as educators, small business owners, healthcare professionals, community leaders, and public servants.

43:58

Recognitions like this help ensure that the traditions and experience of all communities are acknowledged and respected in our city.

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That kind of respect and understanding helps strengthen connections between neighbors and across our city.

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I'm honored to join my colleagues in recognizing Ramadan Month and extending our well wishes to everyone observing.

44:19

Lastly, I'd like to make some quick comments on National Nutrition Month.

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Uh, thank you to Council President Lukava and Councilmember Campbell for bringing forward this recognition and for highlighting the importance of nutrition and public health for residents across San Diego.

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The food we have access to and the choices available in our neighborhoods play a major role in overall health, well-being, and quality of life.

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In many areas of our city, including neighborhoods in District 4, access to healthy and affordable food continues to be an important issue, which is why education and advocacy around nutrition are so critical.

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This conversation is especially important for black and brown communities that have historically faced barriers to healthy food access and experience higher rates of diet-related health conditions.

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National Nutrition Month is an opportunity to recognize the professionals, advocates, and organizations working to expand nutrition, education, improve food access, and support healthier futures for families across San Diego.

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And in closing, I just want to say, Council President, I think we must never lose what makes America great, and that's freedom of speech.

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But I do believe if we come from a place of love, we can be the best San Diego that we can be and that we should be.

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So please just remember that as we continue to move forward.

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Let's not buy into the rhetoric and the divisiveness that we are currently feeling as neighbors, as community members, as we deal with the federal level.

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So please, please remember what makes us great as we communicate, as we deal with one another, and as we love one another.

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So thank you, Council President.

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Thank you, Councilmember Foster.

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That's worth a round of applause.

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So we'll go down with Council President Pro Dem Lee.

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Thank you, Council President.

46:31

I'll start with uh item 31 and just congratulate Captain Hara and wish you the best in your next chapter, and uh especially congratulate your family and hope that means uh less missed birthdays, holidays, uh, and more.

46:45

Um turning to item 30, I want to thank Mary Gloria and Councilmembers Campbell, Whitburn, and Vaughn Wilpert for recognizing Transgender Day of Visibility, a day to celebrate the strength, contributions, and resilience of transgender people in our community.

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Today's proclamation is also a reminder that visibility alone is not enough.

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Everyone deserves safety, dignity, and the opportunity to live as their full authentic selves.

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And in San Diego, we thrive to be a city where everyone is respected and where no one is left behind.

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So I'm proud to stand with our transgender community and affirm that they are seen, valued, and belong here.

47:19

For item 32, I want to thank uh I want to thank Councilmembers Foster, Campillo, and Ilo Rivera as we proclaim Rabadon month in the city of San Diego.

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Observed this year between February 18th and March 20th, Ramadan is a sacred time for more than 20,000 San Diegans and for billions of people around the world.

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It's a time of reflection, discipline, and generosity, centered on faith, community, and care for others.

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During this time, Muslims fast from dawn to sunset, breaking that fast for iftar amongst family and community.

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And it's also a time to practice kindness and to show support for our most vulnerable neighbors.

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That spirit of compassion and shared responsibility is something that resonates far beyond any one community, and that spirit of Ramadan is something we can all learn from.

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Proud to join my colleagues as we recognize this holy month and celebrate the Muslim community as a key and valued part of San Diego's cultural and civic fabric.

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Thank you, Council President.

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All right, thank you, Council President Pro Tem Lee.

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Uh I think everyone's had a chance to speak.

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Um I want I'll close out by recognizing all the proclamations, the organizations, the individuals, the issues uh that are highlighted there.

48:31

Thank you to my council colleagues for bringing these proclamations forward.

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This is kind of a unique opportunity to share our values as a council and what we believe in.

48:41

Um such beautiful and eloquent words by each of my colleagues.

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I'll fill in a couple of spaces with that.

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S501, National Nutrition Month.

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Uh, honored to join Councilmember Campbell, proclaiming the month of March to be National Nutrition Month.

48:58

Since costs continue to rise, the reasons to compromise on nutrition goes up as well through organizations like the California Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics.

49:09

Resources to find professional nutritionists and educational resources are more important than ever from providing opportunities to increase nutrition policy awareness and helping those who find to find the right nutritionists.

49:22

The field of nutrition goes further than just the food we eat.

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Thank you to everyone who specializes as a nutritionist or dietitian, to the education and food banks for their work in making healthy food accessible, and to the volunteers, your efforts ensure that everyone is able to receive the resources they need to eat well.

49:40

A quick shout out to uh Councilmember uh Campillo for bringing S502 Shane Hog Day.

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Uh I had only a few opportunities to work with Shane, always found him to be a scholar and a gentleman, and the very definition of what a community leader is all about.

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Uh, and it always brings me back to the neighborhood I grew up of Allied Gardens.

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So thank you for recognizing him.

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On S excuse me, on item thirty-one, Jerry Haraday.

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Uh, thank you to my colleagues for recognizing Jerry.

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We're not I'm not going to make you come back up again.

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Uh, wish you a speedy recovery, uh, kind of a funny way to go out on retirement given what you've done over your many many years uh in the department.

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Uh, but do also want to recognize that with your experience and knowledge uh from your time over those many years and many assignments, you have single-handedly prepared a new generation of confident officers and dedicated public servants within the department.

50:35

As you said, you've leave us in very good shape, and we're eternally grateful for that.

50:40

Uh, the work that you've accomplished is nothing short of impressive and commendable.

50:45

I also, as you mentioned, and as my colleagues mentioned, want to personally thank you for guiding me through the real-time operations of the dispatch center.

50:53

It was one of the most memorable experiences I've had as a council member, something that I knew the city did, but never really experienced firsthand.

51:01

But to witness the most calm and caring city employees guide people through a call they never wanted to make.

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That atmosphere and the responsive is a reflection of your leadership.

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So thank you for your service.

51:12

Thank you to your family for sharing with us for the past thirty plus years and everything you've done to make San Diego safer.

51:21

And with that, uh, we have a motion by Councilmember Elo Rivera and a second by Councilmember Campbell to move the proclamations.

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Clerk, please call the roll.

51:38

With Council Member Moreno absent.

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All right, thank you, City Clerk, and we will now pause for photos, starting with S five oh one National Nutrition Month.

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Okay, we're gonna continue on with the rest of today's or this morning's meeting.

1:00:03

So I don't want to be in the position of telling the police officer what to do, but the dispatchers kind of said in all seriousness.

1:00:15

We will now proceed with the approval of the consent items.

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But first, I believe staff has a corrective statement for the record for item S504.

1:00:32

Is there anybody remote?

1:00:33

Oh, there we go.

1:00:40

Good morning, Ryan Barber Parks and Recreation.

1:00:43

On item S504, subsequent to the release of the agenda, the staff report was revised to update the environmental analysis.

1:00:52

Thank you.

1:00:53

Right.

1:00:53

Thank you for making that statement.

1:00:56

So this is items 10, 50 through 52, 100 through 102, S504, and S507.

1:01:04

With that, are there any requests to pull an item by council members?

1:01:07

Not seeing any request.

1:01:09

Clerk, please proceed with public comment.

1:01:11

Thank you, Council President.

1:01:12

Please know each speaker will have one minute per item per person.

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If you would like to speak on three or more items, you will have a maximum of three minutes.

1:01:20

The consent agenda includes items 10, 50 through 52, 100 through 102, S504 through S507.

1:01:28

Also, let me note for the record the potential appointments that is on the agenda this morning.

1:01:33

Or sorry, the potential reappointment that is on the agenda this morning.

1:01:36

Item 101 is the potential reappointment of Michael Zuquet to the San Diego Unified Port District Board of Commissioners.

1:01:42

Also let me note that we received one comment on item 50 in opposition VR e-comment form, which has been distributed to the council.

1:01:50

Starting with those that have public comment, allegedly, Audra, if you can please come forward.

1:01:55

You will be speaking on items 5051, 52, 100, S501, S506.

1:02:02

You'll have three minutes.

1:02:04

Please proceed.

1:02:04

I would like to mention something about 10 in the minutes as well, if I could.

1:02:16

Of course, I'm doing that, but when you guys paint a certain picture about what was said, it seems like I'm not bringing up the egregious deaths and rapes that are taking place and your guys' inability to have compassion, as Steven always laughs at that.

1:02:31

Um but for the as needed dam design service agreements.

1:02:56

Because now we're getting sewage back, and that's good for us, right?

1:03:01

And then for 51 with this software service agreement for smart energy water um web port, all this stuff.

1:03:08

It's like we should be concerned about all the data that is being shared across the board, not just with ALPRs, but when we're putting in even smart meters and things like that, our water can be controlled by it being shut off with this type of infrastructure, and it's people really need to start paying attention to what's really going on and don't just buy the bullshit that you guys tend to give us and make it seem really good, like calling sewage pure water.

1:03:33

Um and with the building standard codes, it's like we're constantly changing these codes and and different things, and it literally keeps things from being built much of the time.

1:03:44

And it's sad because it's like you're you're saying it has to be this way.

1:03:47

We do all these environmental reviews and stuff like that, and it's like people are literally suffering.

1:03:52

Somebody died just outside the chambers last week, right?

1:03:55

And nobody probably talked about that homeless person because you just wanted to sweep it under the rug.

1:04:00

Um, and then 100.

1:04:02

It's concerning whenever you're we get money and do things for youth when it's a cash for kids type of thing that happens, especially in juvenile detention.

1:04:11

They literally get money to put children there, and it's just sad to see the kind of exploitation that takes place.

1:04:18

Um and the conflict of interest codes.

1:04:20

It's like I don't even think you guys are equipped to be able to be determining anything like that when you guys are constantly engaged in conflicts of interest.

1:04:28

And it's just interesting to see the things that you guys do.

1:04:31

You paint a really nice picture much of the time.

1:04:36

But when you really see what's going on, it's sad to see that you guys repeatedly ignore things that you should be addressing.

1:04:46

People are suffering.

1:04:47

Again, someone shouldn't have died outside of the chambers last week.

1:04:53

But it's happening on a regular basis, and you guys move these homeless people around just so people don't see them instead of helping them.

1:05:00

Instead of helping them, it is extremely egregious to do that.

1:05:03

Because imagine if that was you and you just wanted help.

1:05:06

And it wasn't enough money to help.

1:05:09

Rhonda Ferrar.

1:05:11

And then after that, we have Robert Dudley.

1:05:14

If you can please come up to the yellow reserve seats in the front.

1:05:17

Ronda will have one minute on item 50, please proceed.

1:05:21

51 as well.

1:05:22

You want to speak?

1:05:23

Thank you.

1:05:23

You'll have two minutes, please proceed.

1:05:25

Thank you.

1:05:26

Good morning.

1:05:26

I'm Rhonda Ferrar.

1:05:27

I'm president of the Friends of Lake Hodges.

1:05:30

As the City of San Diego considers its options for replacing Lake Hodges Dam, the Friends of Lake Hodges, along with the Rancho Bernardi or Branch of Bernardo Community Council, the Friends of San Diego Lakes, raise Lake Hodges.org, and the North County Climate Alliance wants to express our strong support for a new Lake Hodges Dam with construction to begin no later than 2029 as mandated by the state of California.

1:05:56

We support a dam of the same height of as the current dam, but at least of sufficient height to allow the water from San Diego's largest watershed to be available to the entire region through the operation of the pump storage facility.

1:06:10

The 208 million dollar rate payer investment in the Hodges Pump Storage Facility, our region's region's largest battery for clean energy, would once again be generating electricity to power 26,000 homes and would provide the ability to move water where it's needed during the drought for the next hundred years.

1:06:29

With the pump storage facility in operation, the lake level would not experience the large fluctuations that affect the region's wildlife and overgrowth of education that presents increased fire danger.

1:06:42

The lake at this level would allow fishermen to return to the lake using the existing boat ramp facilities.

1:06:48

Rainwater stored at Lake Hodges is the best source of drinking water for downstream water districts and the lowest cost water available to the region.

1:06:57

We asked the City of San Diego, the San Diego County Water Authority, the Rancho Santa Fe, and the Rancho San Diego Water Districts, and the state and federal agencies to collaborate to build the new Lake Hodges Dam as soon as possible to minimize the risk of catastrophic failure of the aged dam.

1:07:14

Every month we wait, construction costs rise, the risk of catastrophic failure increases.

1:07:19

On behalf of the thousands who live, work, and play around Lake Hodges, we urge you to act now.

1:07:25

Thank you.

1:07:27

Robert Dudley.

1:07:29

You have time to see it too by Stephen Booth Songstad.

1:07:32

If you can please raise your hand.

1:07:34

Stephen?

1:07:35

Thank you so much.

1:07:36

You'll have two minutes.

1:07:37

Speaking on item 50, please proceed.

1:07:40

Good morning, Council members.

1:07:41

I'm Robert Dudley.

1:07:42

I represent the Raised Lake Hodges group, and I'm really in favor of a low-cost plan to prevent for to reduce the prospect of forest fire.

1:07:53

You guys have the opportunity here to have seen what happened in LA.

1:07:58

We don't want to have a repeat of that.

1:08:00

And one of the lowest cost ways to reduce that possibility is to raise the level of the lake.

1:08:06

I asked for your support in going to the legislature to the governor to support a plan to allow the lake to be raised to ensure that there's adequate water for fire fate fight, fire fighting and a buffer against fire.

1:08:22

This is a common sense solution.

1:08:24

It has no cost.

1:08:26

But we need your help to recognize that in LA, the reservoirs were left empty.

1:08:34

There was not sufficient water pressure to fight the fire.

1:08:38

This is a catastrophic condition that we have to deal with.

1:08:40

And for 10 years, we won't have anything to prevent fire or to reduce the prospect of fire.

1:08:48

We're going to have a fire one way or the other.

1:08:50

It's just how serious it will end up being.

1:08:54

So if these group can come up with an interim plan to deal with the 10 years of what is happening for the future so that we can reduce the prospect of fire.

1:09:04

So I thank you very much.

1:09:07

Thank you.

1:09:07

That does conclude public comment here in Council Chambers going to those participating remotely.

1:09:12

We have six speakers in the queues with their hands up.

1:09:14

Blair Beekman, if you can please unmute and please let us know which item or items you wish to speak to.

1:09:22

Hi.

1:09:23

Blair Beekman.

1:09:34

Three minutes, please proceed.

1:09:37

Thank you.

1:09:38

Blair Beekman.

1:09:41

I had good conversations with police officers yesterday.

1:09:45

It was hopeful.

1:09:46

So uh good luck in our conversations uh as community at this time.

1:09:52

I think it's a hopeful sign.

1:09:53

Hopefully.

1:10:00

Item 50, uh, award uh as needed dam design services agreement uh with uh HDR engineering.

1:10:05

Uh thank you that you're talking about dam issues and working on them.

1:10:08

It sounds like a really difficult issue to navigate.

1:10:10

Um keeping the community informed every step of the way.

1:10:13

Uh thank you uh for those efforts.

1:10:15

Good luck in continuing that.

1:10:17

Uh item 51 is existing software uh for the smart energy uh water uh for the my water web portal.

1:10:26

Uh this is ongoing.

1:10:28

Uh it's being returned here uh a few times uh to council for our guest review and further uh understanding.

1:10:35

Thank you for the clarifications.

1:10:37

Uh I think it's a nice feature to bring items back continuously to City Council agenda items.

1:10:42

I'm okay with that.

1:10:43

Uh it provides a chance for the public to learn more what your uh further agreements are about, what you're more talking about.

1:10:51

Um how the this item can be better and better developed uh with community and public input.

1:10:57

Thank you.

1:10:58

Uh for item one uh 101 is reappointments to San Diego Unified Port District Board of Commission persons.

1:11:08

You had a climate action plan uh annual report last week.

1:11:12

Uh I really forgot to mention, I wanted to mention Port District persons.

1:11:16

Um, what is their part in in this climate and the climate uh review process that we're going through for San Diego?

1:11:23

Can they add anything of value?

1:11:25

Uh I think the dialogue you can have with them can be helpful.

1:11:29

You know, the the um projects we can work on.

1:11:31

I think there's a new head person that can be um interesting from the city of San Diego who um might make for good conversation.

1:11:40

And that the their port commission has been working on a more open public process, which I think would be of much interest to things like the water board agency that has it having a difficult time creating uh a more open public process.

1:11:54

They can learn good lessons from what the port district commissioners have been trying to learn as public accessibility and engagement and um good luck in that.

1:12:03

And I know Councilperson von Wolpert uh works on those things.

1:12:06

Good luck what can be developed there.

1:12:08

And to conclude with uh S504, uh Rancho Bernardo Community Park funding.

1:12:15

My goodness gracious, you're getting 2.5 million dollars to do the same things in memorial park things from the state.

1:12:22

Uh you know, uh, you know, upgraded security and sports lighting.

1:12:28

Um we really have to learn to have more open conversations on the future of biometric technology in our communities.

1:12:34

We have to not fear that conversation to be open and not give it dog whistles.

1:12:38

We have to be clear.

1:12:40

Good luck in those efforts.

1:12:41

Thank you.

1:12:41

Thank you.

1:12:42

8700, if you can please unmute after that is 8813.

1:12:49

Uh thank you.

1:12:50

5051, 100 and 101, please.

1:12:55

Please proceed three minutes.

1:12:58

Uh 50.

1:12:59

HDR and Stantech.

1:13:02

Subcontracts, total of 51.

1:13:05

All of them are TBD to be decided.

1:13:10

Trans, please, transparency, oversight, accountability, and monitoring.

1:13:16

150 million for the two agreements, 268 total employees, underrepresentation, African American, Latino, Asian, and female in four categories.

1:13:31

Progress is being made.

1:13:32

Thank you.

1:13:34

51.

1:13:35

Smart Energy Water.

1:13:37

I want to suggest something new from my perspective.

1:13:42

Recontrol, recontracts, agreements, and so forth.

1:13:46

I did it for this company.

1:13:48

That is this to Google the company reviews and rating of the company.

1:13:56

Try it.

1:13:58

You might be surprised as I was.

1:14:01

Number 100.

1:14:03

Yes to initiative to fund employ and empower youth workforce.

1:14:11

Uh I I jumped up and down.

1:14:14

Yes, to apply for those grant funds.

1:14:18

This is a golden opportunity that lifts uh lifts us up.

1:14:24

Not only that lifts up not only our youth, it lifts up all of us, up and away.

1:14:31

Love and blessings to our youth.

1:14:34

When I see you at the microphone, dear youth, I'm just blown away by your power, by your empowerment, and what you can do for us now and to create our beautiful future.

1:14:46

Keep up the work.

1:14:48

Uh 101, big yes to confirming the reappointment of Michael Zuquette to the San Diego Unified Port District Board of Commissioners, ending January 2nd of 2031.

1:15:01

Ending January 2nd of 2031.

1:15:06

That's a great date and covers four years of excellent service from a high quality person and commissioner.

1:15:17

Thank you, Mr.

1:15:18

Zuquette, for your beautiful work and for your service to the people of San Diego.

1:15:24

Love to all.

1:15:26

Thank you.

1:15:27

Next is 8813.

1:15:28

If you can please unmute after that will be Tony.

1:15:31

The five-minute timer has also concluded there were six speakers in the queue.

1:15:34

No additional speakers will be taken.

1:15:36

Please proceed, AA13.

1:15:37

Let me know which item or items you wish to speak to.

1:15:41

Okay.

1:15:41

Uh oh here.

1:15:43

And this uh let's see.

1:15:45

Uh this pertains to pretty much all of them.

1:15:52

Please proceed.

1:15:54

Okay, thank you.

1:15:56

So let's see, with this consent calendar item, I wanted to remind the people how government actually works.

1:16:02

Uh people continue to come here asking, even begging government to do the right thing.

1:16:08

But somewhere along the way, people have forgotten something very important.

1:16:12

Government is supposed to answer to the people, not the other way around.

1:16:18

And yet, what do we continue to see?

1:16:22

More and more homeless families living on the streets, not in homes, not supported, not stabilized, but pushed further into survival.

1:16:31

At the same time, we watch government stand here and present solutions, programs, plans, initiatives.

1:16:39

What are they really?

1:16:42

Band-aid solutions, temporary fixes that never seem to resolve the root of the problem.

1:16:48

Because if the problems were truly solved, there would be nothing left to manage.

1:16:54

So instead, what happens?

1:16:56

The issues get prolonged, kick down the road, pass from administration to the from one administration to the next, year after year, budget after budget.

1:17:05

Meanwhile, the people continue to struggle.

1:17:08

Government does not resolve problems.

1:17:11

Let's be clear with that.

1:17:12

It manages them, it sustains them, and in many cases, it expands them.

1:17:18

And if that brings and that brings me to the hardest truth, people need to hear.

1:17:40

Standing right even in front of them.

1:17:42

And until people remember who government is supposed to answer to, the cycle will continue.

1:17:48

Now remember that.

1:17:50

I'll repeat that.

1:17:51

Until people remember who government is supposed to answer to, this cycle will continue.

1:17:57

The begging, the asking, the continuous, all of this.

1:18:04

It will continue.

1:18:06

Remember that.

1:18:08

Pay attention.

1:18:09

Look at the pattern.

1:18:10

See what they do.

1:18:11

See what they don't do on purpose.

1:18:13

See what they prolong.

1:18:14

Look at all the conflicts of interest.

1:18:16

Look at the blame game.

1:18:18

It's all a game.

1:18:19

That's what it is.

1:18:20

A game.

1:18:20

Wake up to it.

1:18:22

We were never meant to be governed the way we're being governed, the way they are doing it.

1:18:27

It's all corrupt.

1:18:28

It's all sick.

1:18:29

If one person suffers, we all suffer.

1:18:32

Remember that.

1:18:34

Thank you.

1:18:35

Our next speaker is Tony.

1:18:37

After that is Ernie Casco.

1:18:39

If you can please unmute.

1:18:43

Tony, I can unmute for you.

1:18:46

And we'll need to move on if you cannot.

1:18:48

There you go.

1:18:50

Please let me know which item or items you wish to speak to.

1:18:54

This would be speaking to the dam project.

1:18:58

Number fifty item 50, you'll have a minute, please proceed.

1:19:01

Thank you.

1:19:02

I wanted to start out this morning by thanking City Council.

1:19:05

I know that the job that you have is a tremendously difficult one.

1:19:09

Uh and I know that no matter what you do, and no matter what good is done, and no matter what progress is made, um people are gonna still disrespect you and they're gonna find ways to tear you down and uh say things that uh aren't always necessarily rooted in the truth, because a lot of things that uh they place blame upon you for things that happened before your time that you're not necessarily responsible for.

1:19:34

And I think that um from what I've seen, this has been one of the most progressive uh councils that San Diego has ever had.

1:19:41

Um, and with your help and with your guidance and with your leadership, we've been able to raise the minimum wage for hotel workers.

1:19:48

Um we've been able to put on the ballot the empty homes tax.

1:19:52

Um, we've been able to do a number of things, including now repairing this dam, um, which are greatly in need in service of the people of San Diego.

1:20:02

So please take the criticisms with a grain of sort of time has appreciated.

1:20:06

My apologies.

1:20:07

If you have additional comments, you can definitely email them in to City Clerk at Sandiego.gov and they will be distributed.

1:20:12

Ernie Casco, if you can please unmute.

1:20:15

Yes, I'd like to speak on items 31 through 102, consent, recommendations, our rights, volunteer, and team management.

1:20:24

The 31 was the proclamation, so you can spend a 50 to 52.

1:20:28

And then what was the other items?

1:20:31

All the items.

1:20:33

Please make sure you say to the items.

1:20:35

We do have to document this for the record.

1:20:37

If you can let me know, please proceed to the first time.

1:20:39

Items 3131 through 102.

1:20:43

Okay, so 50 through 102.

1:20:45

30 is proclamations.

1:20:46

Please proceed.

1:20:48

Okay.

1:20:49

There are guidelines.

1:20:50

I'm Ernie Casco, Lahoy resident, Tory Pines Gliderport.

1:20:55

Um senior pilot.

1:20:58

There are guidelines and laws to protect public when making decisions.

1:21:02

City council has failed to protect me, my family, my public rights.

1:21:06

The same thing going on at Torrey Pines Gliderport.

1:21:09

Uh, your decisions uh have a legal consequences.

1:21:14

It is illegal for anyone, including your city leaseholder to turn our freedom into an access pass and waiver for a license and fee to use a free public park when city liabilities are already covered by California recreational laws.

1:21:29

This is insurance fraud and misappropriation of public funding going into private accounts, which demands a full transparent city audit that would end the corruption going on at the glider port in other areas in the city.

1:21:42

We have a letter of support from La Hoya Town Council, Lahoy Shores Association to permanently reconvene the Tory Pines Glider Port Advisory Board.

1:21:51

But the Torrey Pines Glide Report Advisory Board historically allowed uh the commercialization and privatization of our park to continue.

1:22:00

It is irresponsible for city council to put the glider port in the hands of a business that knowingly exploits our constitutional recreational rights and freedoms.

1:22:10

It is a city council job to stop the crime first and then address the victims who have been damaged by discrimination, assault, battery, and boss reports and arrest.

1:22:24

The San Diego recreational waiver stops that crime illegally, secure city liabilities, isolate safety concerns, uh safety concerns, and restores recreational rights and freedoms back to what it originally was.

1:22:41

The San Diego recreational waiver stops the illegal collection of public funds going into private accounts by separating the business from normal free public access access yet allows the business to stay paying their own bills, operating like every other business in public parks and lands.

1:23:06

This breaks the corruption.

1:23:10

This breaks the corruption going on at the glider port management.

1:23:14

Where are the police reports that provide justice for the witness for the victims and witnesses who have been damaged?

1:23:23

There are common laws to protect the public.

1:23:26

How um business should be run in public parks and lands.

1:23:31

You need to set a precedence on how that happens.

1:23:35

This is a win for city council liabilities using common contract laws that legally restores our recreational rights and freedoms for years to come.

1:23:45

It is the best decision that city council and you can make, Joe Lacaba.

1:23:51

Thank you next is Kathleen Lippett.

1:23:54

After that is Judy Strang and then 7499.

1:23:58

Thank you for letting me speak.

1:24:00

Uh to item 50.

1:24:03

If ever there were an opportunity for the city to take a proactive step on behalf of the public good, prioritizing the replacement of Lake Hodges would be it.

1:24:12

The city was warned four years ago that it the dam was in bad need of for critical repair, postponing and redirecting funds to other projects reserved for addressing dam safety would replace a potentially clean source of water for a system that will require hundreds of gallons for another system that would require hundreds of gallons of chemicals.

1:24:37

We are told that those chemicals will be removed.

1:24:41

But I don't know if that's possible.

1:24:44

It is far better to look at a potential source that has been used.

1:24:49

It just needs to be protected.

1:24:51

And postponing required maintenance is not in your best interest, and it's certainly not in the public's.

1:25:00

So I hope that you will look at this and do something that is in the best interest of the public.

1:25:05

Thank you.

1:25:06

Thank you, next is Judy Strang.

1:25:08

After that is 7499.

1:25:10

Judy Strang, please unmute.

1:25:14

I can't unmute for you.

1:25:17

I will need to move on.

1:25:18

And there you go.

1:25:19

Can you tell me item or items you wish to speak to?

1:25:22

Yes, I wanted to speak to 50 and 100.

1:25:26

You'll have two minutes, please proceed.

1:25:28

You bet.

1:25:29

Thank you for the opportunity to call for my workplace.

1:25:32

And I'm sorry to hold you up while I was getting connected.

1:25:35

I'm very excited to speak to item 50, the dam design.

1:25:40

Great gobs of money.

1:25:41

I would have loved to have seen a staff report on it.

1:25:44

But all of us who live downstream from the Lake Hodges Dam are excited by any sorts of repairs that are happening there.

1:25:50

I'd love to have a I tried to read the staff report and understand it, but I came away a little confused.

1:25:57

It is after all a 10-year grant.

1:25:59

And it seems to be first for 150 million dollars, to which 75 million dollars is being added.

1:26:07

That's a lot of money just to put on consent.

1:26:10

And let us not understand what we're going to get over our 10 year period for this money.

1:26:16

I also wanted to speak to item 100.

1:26:19

Oh, yay, let's apply for this grant.

1:26:21

I always wonder about these common sense situations whether we really need to uh ask whether we should do it.

1:26:30

Of course, we should do it.

1:26:31

I guess we should be glad that we have the clarity and the opportunity to speak to it.

1:26:35

Yes, if there was ever a city, those young people need an influx of cash to help implement the programs that you've so aggressively put in place to help them.

1:26:46

The age of 16 to 30 is a critical age in the life of a young person.

1:26:52

Speaking as a grandmother, I can tell you that it is an age that is just inundated with bad influences about choice making.

1:27:00

And as a public health advocate, I have to again express my concern when you look at this age group to realize the role that the normalization of high potency cannabis products has done to this age group in affecting their ability to be successful at school.

1:27:18

And these tutorship opportunities and internship opportunities are going to be provided if we receive this money.

1:27:24

Let's look at the source of the problems our children have, as well as try to fund solutions.

1:27:29

Thank you.

1:27:31

Thank you.

1:27:31

Our final speaker is 7499.

1:27:34

Please unmute and let me know which item or items you wish to speak to.

1:27:38

Item 51.

1:27:40

Please proceed.

1:27:41

You'll have one minute.

1:27:43

Bob Kazuski here.

1:27:45

I've been writing software since the 1970s, back when we were using punch cards.

1:27:51

I appreciate the reduction of this item from 16.3 million dollars down to 5.5 million dollars.

1:27:59

But that's still far too much for any quote software as a service, end quote contract in the era of widely available free software.

1:28:09

Free and open source software.

1:28:12

The people creating these agreements and contracts do not negotiate as if they were spending their own personal money as they should.

1:28:22

Send this item back for further negotiation.

1:28:25

Also, I endorse the comments of the earlier caller who asserted that this current city government does not serve the people, and it does not answer to the people.

1:28:36

Thank you.

1:28:37

Thank you.

1:28:37

That concludes public comment on the consent agenda.

1:28:40

All right, thank you, City Clerk.

1:28:42

Uh with that, we will go to my colleagues for any questions and comments, and we'll entertain a motion and we'll start with Council Member Kempio.

1:28:50

Thank you, Council President.

1:28:50

I'll move approval of the consent agenda briefly.

1:28:53

Just call the the public's attention to item 51, where we're reducing the term amount of a contract from 16.3 million to 5.5 million.

1:29:00

I appreciate staff's work on helping us with the smart energy water uh software there.

1:29:06

So that's uh that's you know, we get some things done, we save some money around here.

1:29:10

Um, and on item number 101, the reappointment to the San Diego Unified Port District Board of Commissioners.

1:29:15

I want to thank Mr.

1:29:16

Michael Zuquette for his service uh a little bit more than two terms coming on a third term here.

1:29:21

Uh I just do want to say this week and I had relatives from from Iowa visiting San Diego.

1:29:27

We went on a boat tour of the harbor and the port.

1:29:30

Uh they were commenting on on how much fun they were having, and I said all the credit goes to Sid Varakara, who's sitting right next to you, Mr.

1:29:36

Ziquette.

1:29:37

So, you know, keep following his lead.

1:29:39

Uh I appreciate you very much.

1:29:41

Uh quite frankly, folks from all over the world come to our port for tourism, for food, for art, uh, and the experience of San Diego.

1:29:49

It is a cornerstone uh of our local economy, and uh Mr.

1:29:53

Zuquin is one of the reasons it is doing so successfully.

1:29:55

So thank you very much for your service.

1:29:57

And with that, I will uh conclude my motion, Council President.

1:30:00

All right, thank you.

1:30:01

So we do have a motion by Councilmember Campio to move the consent items.

1:30:04

We'll go next to Councilmember Whitburn.

1:30:07

Thank you, Council President.

1:30:08

I will second the motion.

1:30:09

Uh item 100.

1:30:10

This item accepts state funding for the city's internship program.

1:30:14

Ensuring that interns are paid is essential to removing barriers to public service and opening the door for more young people to explore explore careers in local government.

1:30:24

I want to take a moment to recognize our outstanding district three interns, Rigo, Tajay, and Aidan, whose dedication and service make a real difference in our community every day.

1:30:34

On item 101, the reappointment of Michael Zuquet to the San Diego Unified Port District Board of Commissioners.

1:30:41

Mr.

1:30:41

Zuquette currently serves as vice chair of the board of port commissioners.

1:30:46

Uh during public comment, Mr.

1:30:47

Beekman asked about the port's role in addressing climate change.

1:30:52

Well, I have good news.

1:30:53

Uh Vice Chair Zuquet has been instrumental in the development and success of the Maritime Clean Air Strategy and the electrification of port operations, which have been recognized globally as well as many other initiatives.

1:31:04

His contributions have helped to grow the blue economy in San Diego and create many good paying jobs.

1:31:10

In fact, he was a renewable energy economist in the Department of Energy back in the day.

1:31:15

So for all of us who are concerned about climate change, we are fortunate to have Vice Chair Zuquette representing our city on the board of Port Commissioners.

1:31:23

And uh Mr.

1:31:24

Varakara is with us in Chambers as well.

1:31:27

We're fortunate to have Commissioner Varakra and Commissioner Moore also representing our city of San Diego.

1:31:33

Thank you, Council President.

1:31:34

All right, thank you, sir.

1:31:35

Uh so we have a motion by Councilmember Campio and a second by Council Member Whitburn to move the consent items.

1:31:41

We'll go next to Councilmember Campbell.

1:31:43

Thank you so much, Council President.

1:31:46

Uh I would like to comment also on item 101.

1:31:50

The reappointment of Mike Zuquet to the San Diego Port Board of Commissioners.

1:31:55

Michael Zuquette, who grew up near the ocean and ocean beach in my district.

1:32:00

Currently serves as vice chair of the San Diego Port of Commissioners.

1:32:04

He is in line to become the chair in 2027.

1:32:08

Commissioner Zuquet is the general manager for the San Diego MEA Municipal Employee Association, representing over 5,000 of our city employees.

1:32:19

He served as Sandy Count San Diego City Councilman for District 2.

1:32:26

Yay, where he served on many did many things, including serving on the Public Safety Committee, Natural Resources, and Land Use Committees.

1:32:37

Prior to being a council member, Commissioner Zuket was the director of government affairs for the San Diego Firefighters Union, local 145.

1:32:47

And he did all those other things my other colleagues have mentioned as well.

1:32:51

It's amazing in his young life.

1:32:54

Given his dedication to serving the community, I support the reappointment of Michael Zuquet to the San Diego Board Board of Commissioners and appreciate his willingness to continue to serve our wonderful port.

1:33:07

And thank you, Commission Member Veraka, for being here escorting him at this important moment.

1:33:16

Thank you very much, Council President.

1:33:18

All right, thank you, Councilmember Campbell.

1:33:20

We'll go next to Councilmember Ilo Rivera.

1:33:22

Thank you, Council President.

1:33:24

Just a couple quick comments.

1:33:26

First, um want to say thank you to Mr.

1:33:28

Zuquette for your um interest and commitment to continuing to serve and represent San Diego at the port.

1:33:41

I'm gonna be nice the whole time this time, I promise.

1:33:44

Um the work that you've done um to um make sure that the port is a responsible um and good partner to the communities around the port is extremely meaningful.

1:33:58

Um the the uh advances that have been made around clean energy um super important.

1:34:04

The port is a oftentimes I think in government we talk about being leaders at a national level or a global level, and I'll be honest, I think there's a lot of hyperbole in most of that.

1:34:19

That's actually not the case at the port.

1:34:21

Um I it's not hyperbole.

1:34:22

There are advancements being made and actions that have been taken that um really are uh groundbreaking.

1:34:28

And I I know that you've played an important role in that.

1:34:31

I know that's why um Sid came here to support you and keep an eye on you.

1:34:36

Um but just thank you again for your willingness to step up and continue to serve in that in that role.

1:34:42

Um I also wanted to say how glad I am to see uh item 100 in front of us.

1:34:48

Um the Employee and Power Program is one of the best things the state has done over the last several years, and I'm very glad that San Diego has leaned into it.

1:35:00

From uh Roberto, who is now leading our community empowerment efforts, to Diana, who's uh behind me, and Kanoa.

1:35:04

These are folks who came through the employee and employed and empowered program and now at work as staff and in leadership positions in our office.

1:35:10

Um, V and Ivy who are are behind me as current uh interns in our cohort along with Ava, Izzy, Owen, and Summer.

1:35:20

Um they're doing incredible work.

1:35:23

They're learning about government, they're contributing to their community, and the state's investment in our young people is is a a great short-term and long term investment.

1:35:34

Um very, very glad to see um accepting these additional grant funds and want to see this uh program not only continue but continue to grow um in the years ahead because um really um the city wins, um, our offices win, the residents win, and and obviously there's benefits for the young folks who are here here as well.

1:35:56

So I want to say thank you to our employee and empowered cohort cohort um and um I'm very supportive of continuing uh continuing to see this program thrive, the city.

1:36:08

Thank you, Council President.

1:36:09

All right, thank you, Councilmember Yola Rivera.

1:36:11

We'll go next to Councilmember Von Wolpert.

1:36:14

Um thank you.

1:36:14

I will just add on item 101.

1:36:16

Uh, Mike Zuket, we're very excited to reappoint you to the port.

1:36:19

You've done an excellent job.

1:36:20

My colleagues have already talked about all the wonderful things you've done for the community.

1:36:24

Um I'll also add all the wonderful things you do for our city.

1:36:27

Um leading um MEA as uh the leadership is been quite incredible.

1:36:31

We've had some hard years and we have a hard budget year now, and so thank you for standing up to be the voice of our workers, who we depend on every day to literally even open this building and make sure it's functioning, which is a tall order these days.

1:36:43

So I appreciate you very much.

1:36:45

Um Sid Varakara, always good to see you too.

1:36:48

Thank you for the excellent work you're doing as well.

1:36:50

And my continued uh request to both of you is to help us as a city and a port and a region really make the convention center everything that it can be, and helping to turn our new wind of the Measure C money into a long-term infrastructure investment for our convention center to modernize it, to expand it, to keep Comic Con in San Diego so that everyone can come see the brand new Seaport Village when it is finally ready.

1:37:13

So thank you for your work.

1:37:14

I appreciate you very much.

1:37:16

And item 50, thank you to everyone who came in to speak about Lake Hodges Dam.

1:37:20

Uh, you know, I've grown up watching this dam.

1:37:22

Uh unfortunately start to crumble.

1:37:26

And Lake Hodges is now the worst-rated dam in the entire state of California, uh, which has quite a bit.

1:37:33

Um I too would love to see a new dam constructed and the water level raised because we're seeing increased risk with fire when the water goes down and the brush explodes.

1:37:42

Luckily, this year, our assembly member Darcy and Patel worked with our office to secure over a million dollars to do brush management in this area, and our fire department has been great about making sure we are controlling brush.

1:37:53

But what happens next year?

1:37:55

And since the County Water Authority has decided that they no longer want to participate in building a new dam, which they are contractually obligated to pay for half of the cost of Lake Hodges, that would leave the city on the hook to fund an entire construction of a new dam, which I know is not necessarily possible.

1:38:11

So I tell all of my neighbors and community members who have actually been through fires before.

1:38:17

The Witch Creek fire came through this area, and many of them saw their homes burned to the foundations.

1:38:22

So this is not a theoretical fear for them.

1:38:24

This is a fear they have experienced in the past to keep advocating and also advocate with the county water authority because they are another government entity that's going to control the fate of this dam.

1:38:34

So thank you, everyone.

1:38:36

Thank you to PUD for investing in our dams, and let's make sure that we start the initial focus with this money coming in on solutions for Lake Hodges because it is the one that needs the most care.

1:38:45

So I'll support the Cassette Agenda.

1:38:47

All right, thank you, Councilmember Von Wolpert.

1:38:49

We'll go next to Council President Pro Tam Lee.

1:38:53

Thank you, Council President.

1:38:54

Uh, I'd like to speak to item 100, and uh just I'm glad to see that these state funds come to the city to support our employee and empower youth workforce program, uh, which is as Councilmember Ila Rivera said, uh, an incredibly important program that I've had the opportunity to observe uh its impact firsthand, uh including our current interns in our office.

1:39:14

We've had the privilege of working with more than 20 interns uh through this program over the course of the last three years.

1:39:20

Some of them have gone on to become full-time staff, while others have moved on to positions in various elected offices and agencies at the local and state level uh during their time with us.

1:39:30

Uh they've joined their local planning groups, shown up at protests, researched policy initiatives, painted murals in our communities, and track data patterns that impact our constituents.

1:39:40

Several have also continued on to law school or other graduate programs.

1:39:44

Uh, whether they choose to stay in government or pursue other paths, they have all made valuable contributions to our work while gaining a deeper appreciation for public service.

1:39:52

It's been a truly rewarding uh experience for me and our team to see them grow and explore their interests their intertime with our office.

1:40:00

And I'm glad to know that we will continue to be able to provide this valuable experience to future students.

1:40:06

Uh I'll also give a shout out to Kimberly Hang and Jacob Barnridge uh Barnage who are working in our office right now and probably tuning into this meeting.

1:40:15

Um for item 101.

1:40:17

Uh, I will take a moment to uh thank Commissioner Zuquet for his willingness to continue uh serving.

1:40:25

Uh I'll admit I asked Commissioner Varakara uh for some bullet points um of what to share.

1:40:30

And to that he said only say nice things uh as long as you have them to say okay.

1:40:37

Well with that thank you.

1:40:41

I think everyone's already repeated quite a bit of uh our gratitude for your willingness to serve.

1:40:45

I think um most folks in the public forget uh and don't recognize that serving as commissioner for the port um is not a light task.

1:40:54

Uh it is it is just as rigorous uh uh in many of the policy areas that we deal with here on this council, and uh to you and your fellow commissioners that represent the city.

1:41:03

Uh, we're all very grateful that you dedicate your time and energy um to practically volunteer in that capacity um to better our uh port and all the properties um along the coast that we value in our region.

1:41:16

So thank you, Commissioner, for your service.

1:41:18

Thank you, Council President.

1:41:20

Uh thank you, Council President uh Pro Tem.

1:41:22

We'll go next to Council Member Foster.

1:41:26

Uh yes, thank you, um Council President.

1:41:29

Um just some quick comments.

1:41:32

Um, would like to um thank uh Commissioner Zouquet for his willingness um to continue to serve.

1:41:39

Um it is greatly appreciated.

1:41:42

Um and just really want to thank um the port commissioners for all the good work that you are doing and continuing to ensure that we um are a top destination location.

1:41:53

Um a lot of um transformative work is happening along our um shoreline there.

1:41:59

Um and you guys are uh leading the way and leading that charge.

1:42:03

So just want to thank you for all of those efforts.

1:42:06

Um with that, I will be um supporting the uh consent agenda.

1:42:11

Um Madam Clerk, I would like to uh register a no vote for item 50.

1:42:18

All right, thank you, Councilmember Foster.

1:42:20

Not seeing anybody else in the lights.

1:42:22

Actually, I think everybody spoke.

1:42:23

I'll add a couple of thoughts on my own.

1:42:25

Uh I want to build on the comments of my colleague, Councilmember Vaughn Wilford, item uh 50.

1:42:31

Um there was some concern about that one being on consent.

1:42:35

Uh actually, item 50 had that's the um contract with the consultants for uh dam and uh improvements.

1:42:42

Uh that actually had two full public hearings, one at ATI and one at the full city council.

1:42:49

Uh the item in front of us is the mandatory second reading uh to make sure that we are got the ordinance just right, and that's why it's it's on consent.

1:43:00

And uh on item 51, uh, just a friendly reminder: this is the uh contract for the uh my water portal.

1:43:07

Uh that is a contract authority, not necessarily how much will be spent on that particular item.

1:43:14

Um item S 505.

1:43:16

This is the resolution authorizing the market agreement between the City of San Diego and Hyundai Motor America.

1:43:22

Thank you to Sarah Brenner from Economic Development for negotiating this deal was a rather extraordinary uh improvement over previous deals in the same space.

1:43:32

Our lifeguards deserve the best, and this agreement delivers that.

1:43:35

So thank you, Sarah, for that good work.

1:43:37

Uh, and I suspect uh Chief Gartland had a hand in there as well.

1:43:41

Um so I'll wrap up uh the many accolades.

1:43:44

I think it's getting embarrassing how many of us are talking about item uh 101, Mr.

1:43:49

Zuquet.

1:43:51

Uh as everybody has said, your accomplishments are certainly numerous and impressive.

1:43:56

I too laud your commitment to environmental advances, including electrification of our marine terminals, positive results for the port cities, the city of San Diego, and our most impacted communities.

1:44:06

And I want to recognize we're not here to save the planet.

1:44:10

We're here to save ourselves and our way of life and where we work and where we play.

1:44:16

And Mr.

1:44:16

Zuquet, your efforts are geared 100% to that, to minimize the impact to those waterfront communities to make sure that we have a strong and vibrant water uh working waterfront and you find that balance and the things you've done.

1:44:36

And is once somebody ask about what role you have, the port has, you're leading the damn way.

1:44:42

And the city here is trying to catch up with the good work that you're doing every day.

1:44:46

Uh, for those who missed uh the three commissioners talking about the work at the port, I urge you to go back and watch uh that presentation for the city council.

1:44:55

So I look forward to your continued efforts, sir.

1:44:58

Gutting edge first in the nation environmental advances.

1:45:01

Thank you for your willingness to continue to serve.

1:45:04

And I know you've been itching in that seat to perhaps come up and say a few words to wrap it all up.

1:45:16

Um gosh, thank you, uh Council President, members of the city council.

1:45:20

Um only uh grateful and happy to have the opportunity to serve.

1:45:26

Thank you very much.

1:45:28

Um I so appreciate your support and your partnership and your uh faith, and I work as hard as I can to uh uh to reward that faith and in how we serve.

1:45:41

Um I so appreciate your comments today.

1:45:43

I am definitely humbled, and I do find them a little embarrassing in part because we have such a great team at the port.

1:45:50

Um as many of you mentioned, we've got uh uh Commissioner Sid Varakra here, who's not only here as a colleague but as a friend.

1:45:58

I think he was gonna hold my hand if anybody said anything mean about me.

1:46:02

Um he's such a such an incredible and uh just absolutely a decent human being, and it's such a pleasure to be his friend and to serve with him, and also Commissioner Moore and uh and Commissioner uh Castellanos uh before them.

1:46:18

So thank you very much for those efforts.

1:46:20

Uh to your point, Councilmember Lee also wanted to thank uh my wife and family and my day job uh bosses at uh the San Diego Municipal Employees Association who allow me the time to uh to uh to engage in the service, uh, which is only an honor, and I'm super grateful for it.

1:46:38

So thank you all very much, and thank you, Council President, and especially to uh your incredible uh support staff member um Vicky Joseph for uh for coordinating this reappointment.

1:46:50

Thank you.

1:46:58

All right, no one else in the lights.

1:46:59

We do have a motion by council member Campio and a second by Councilmember Whitburn.

1:47:03

Clerk, please call the role.

1:47:05

I started the voting system, please cast your vote that passes unanimously eight to zero with council member foster voting no on item 50 and council member Moreno absent.

1:47:19

Thank you, Council President.

1:47:20

All right, uh, thank you, City Clerk.

1:47:22

Uh with that, well, let's move quickly.

1:47:25

It's turning out to be a long morning.

1:47:27

Uh we have both non-agenda public comment as well as a presentation under the housing authority.

1:47:34

Uh, but first, are there any comments by the mayor's office, city council members, city attorney, independent budget analyst, or city clerk.

1:47:44

Not seeing any.

1:47:46

Um, I'll make one comment.

1:47:48

Uh I made some comments yesterday relating to the appeal process for environmental determinations, and I may have been a little bit too generous in my words.

1:47:58

Uh environmental determinations are unique animal of all the things that we do.

1:48:03

Uh, someone should not take that as consulting advice, uh, but I'm certainly happy to have a conversation with anybody who's considering to appeal in environmental determination uh and always stand ready to work with my colleagues or operation side if we can improve how our municipal code is written and give good direction for both applicants and appellants.

1:48:25

Uh seeing no one else, uh we will now adjourn as the city council to convene the special housing authority meeting.

1:48:34

And first, we will start with the approval of the housing authority minutes of both January 13th, 2026 and the special session on January 26, 2026.

1:48:44

Clerk, please proceed with public comment.

1:48:47

Thank you.

1:48:47

The public comment period for the housing authority minutes is now open.

1:48:50

Please note each speaker will have one minute per item per person.

1:48:53

The minutes being approved are for the meeting of Tuesday, January 13th, 2026, regular, and Monday, January 26, 2026, a special.

1:49:01

Allegedly, Audrey if you can please come forward.

1:49:05

You'll have two minutes.

1:49:08

Please proceed.

1:49:09

I'm surprised.

1:49:10

I thought I was gonna get one minute.

1:49:11

Lucky you guys.

1:49:13

Um, it's interesting that sometimes you guys will write what is written said in public comment, like in the meeting, and sometimes you don't.

1:49:21

And I'm wondering when you don't, why is that is because you don't want the people to know what was said.

1:49:28

Um, or you you wind up spinning it into a certain way, or taking away words or adding some, so it seems like what is being said is not as um intense or whatever, and it's like I think it is very important that when you are taking somebody's words and and spinning it like that, that that changes exactly what was said.

1:49:52

And I'm curious to know what's going to be written in the minutes when the two men, Paul and I believe Derek it was that came from Tent City.

1:50:01

Did any of you guys go talk to them?

1:50:03

Steven, did you send your staff out to see uh if you could help them not get evicted?

1:50:11

Right.

1:50:12

So it'll be interesting to see what is written when with their comment.

1:50:17

Is it gonna say that they came from B lots and that they're potentially getting kicked out for no reason, that nobody's helping them, that this man's been there since 2023.

1:50:28

Wow.

1:50:29

Seems like it's working right.

1:50:31

Yeah.

1:50:32

And those men are still suffering, and nobody wants to go and talk to the people with lived experience.

1:50:38

So it'll be interesting to see the way the minutes are written then.

1:50:41

Because any time you guys write things about what I'm saying, it changes what it says, and it doesn't show that there are extremely egregious events taking place on your guys' watch that you refuse to mitigate.

1:50:56

I have people coming to me on a daily basis, either their ex-employees, people that live there.

1:51:08

And it continues to happen, and we're gonna have to pay for litigation because of it.

1:51:13

Thank you for that concluding comment.

1:51:14

I'm going to those participating online.

1:51:16

I have five minutes on the queue.

1:51:18

Robin, if you can please unmute and let me know which minutes you're speaking to.

1:51:27

I will be speaking to non-agenda public comment.

1:51:30

We'll come back to you during that time.

1:51:32

Blair Beekman, please let me know which minutes you're speaking to.

1:51:37

Uh both minutes.

1:51:38

Please proceed.

1:51:40

Hi, thank you.

1:51:41

Uh, I won't need the full two minutes.

1:51:44

Uh, but I just wanted to uh quickly offer uh from both meeting minutes of uh January.

1:51:53

I felt that the important theme and conversation and dialogue was how the housing authority people can have good clear conversations with the new federal administration.

1:52:04

And um to not uh reject you know good thinking and and and good attempts at dialogue that we're trying to create at here at the local level towards our housing policies.

1:52:16

Uh they're making really honest decent attempts towards negotiation and good dialogue here at the local level at the housing authority uh to the federal level with HUD funding and and the like.

1:52:27

So um just an overall good luck that we can continue those good efforts and and that uh uh a place of good conversation can be taking place for all of us.

1:52:36

Thank you.

1:52:37

Thank you, eight eight one three.

1:52:39

If you can please unmute and let me know which minutes you're speaking to.

1:52:49

I cannot unmute for you.

1:52:50

There you go.

1:52:53

I uh excuse me, Clinton here.

1:52:55

Uh are we on non-agenda?

1:52:57

No, this is the minutes non-agenda will be later.

1:53:00

I can come back to you then.

1:53:03

Oh, no, okay.

1:53:05

So is this the housing authority thing?

1:53:07

Housing authority minutes.

1:53:10

Oh, the housing authority minutes.

1:53:11

Okay, got it.

1:53:12

Um, yeah, I have something for that.

1:53:14

Just one second, please.

1:53:17

We got one minute or two minutes.

1:53:19

It's one minute per the minutes.

1:53:21

There's two minutes on the two minutes.

1:53:23

Please proceed.

1:53:25

Oh gosh, I'm sorry, I'm not even pulling up my speech for that.

1:53:29

Uh I mean, I'm well pretty much a version of what I usually have to say.

1:53:43

So you know, I'm sorry, I don't mean to take up your time, so I'm gonna just go ahead and wait for an on-agenda.

1:53:51

Thank you.

1:53:51

That does conclude uh public comment on the housing authority minutes.

1:53:56

All right, thank you, City Clerk.

1:53:58

So we'll take up agency member questions and comments intertain a motion to get things started.

1:54:02

I'll go ahead and move the uh adoption of the minutes.

1:54:05

Can I get a second?

1:54:06

Councilmember Whitburn.

1:54:08

Not seeing anybody else in the lights.

1:54:10

Um, I'll add the comment.

1:54:12

I don't think those minutes are still in adequate form.

1:54:14

You want to find out what people said, you go to the video.

1:54:17

That's where you get the straight stories.

1:54:18

So encourage people to do that if they're curious what anybody said.

1:54:23

Uh so with that uh motion by myself and a second by council member Whitburn to move the minutes.

1:54:28

Clerk, please call the role.

1:54:30

I'm sorry, the voting system, please cast your vote.

1:54:36

That passes unanimously eight to zero with council member Moreno absent.

1:54:40

Thank you, Council President.

1:54:41

All right, thank you, City Clerk.

1:54:43

And with that, um clerk, please introduce housing authority item one.

1:54:47

Housing authority item one is an informational item, HA1 Informational Report from the Housing Authority Executive Director.

1:54:54

If you'd like to speak on this item, now's the time to submit your speaker slips to the front of the room in the clear box.

1:55:00

If you're participating online, now's the time to raise your hand by pressing SAR9 or the raise your hand icon.

1:55:06

Thank you, Council President.

1:55:07

Thank you.

1:55:08

Uh Ms.

1:55:09

Jones, as you settle in, introduce yourself for the record and let us know how much time you need for your presentation.

1:55:22

Good morning, Council President Lakava and Council members.

1:55:27

Oops, there we go.

1:55:28

That's better.

1:55:29

Good morning, Council President Lakava and Council members.

1:55:32

I'm Lisa Jones, the San Diego Housing Commission's president and CEO, and I will need about eight minutes for my update.

1:55:41

I'll begin this morning with some difficult changes that occurred recently for the Housing Commission and our staff.

1:55:47

Last month, we unfortunately had to make the difficult decision to reduce our workforce.

1:55:53

And the tough reality is that this was necessary.

1:55:57

It was necessary for us to remain a reliable source of assistance in the coming years for the tens of thousands of families in our programs, and also to be able to sustain our remaining staff who serve those families in our community every day.

1:56:11

As I've shared over the past several months, SDHC, like many other public housing authorities and many other public sector agencies across the country, is experiencing financial challenges like we have not seen as an agency in the past.

1:56:25

Much of this is due to shifts in federal government priorities in the past year and budget uncertainty at the federal, state, and local levels.

1:56:33

Nothing that's not a surprise to I know the council and the city too.

1:56:38

Additionally, like many other organizations, our costs are rising and the need for our services continues to grow, but our financial resources are fixed or in some cases declining.

1:56:48

Our goals are to ensure our rental housing voucher programs, our homelessness programs and services, and our affordable housing units remain available for the individuals and families currently in those programs who need them.

1:57:01

We have taken a variety of steps in recent months to contain costs in this environment.

1:57:06

These include eliminators performance incentives and cost of living adjustments for senior leadership last year, having to make changes to the family contribution amount in the voucher program, and rent adjustments in our affordable housing programs, and having to reduce or end some of our ancillary services and activities.

1:57:33

But the unfortunate reality is even with all of those efforts, we have also needed to reduce our workforce.

1:57:40

This means that we made the tough decision to eliminate 33 occupied staff positions and will not be filling 25 positions that were vacant, which is a reduction of about 14%.

1:57:51

So that means that 33 staff that used to work for the housing commission were laid off on February 27th.

1:57:58

About 60% of the eliminated positions were supervisory level positions or above.

1:58:03

And as I've shared in briefings previously, none of the layoffs were represented, were represented staff.

1:58:12

Staff who occupied those eliminated positions were notified, as I said, on February 27th, and they were provided two weeks' paid leave.

1:58:20

We know this is a difficult time for each of them.

1:58:23

We know this is a difficult time for the staff that remains as well.

1:58:27

There's a lot to process.

1:58:29

But we do care about those staff, and we are offering a variety of assistance to help them through this transition.

1:58:35

While I will not go into detail, I can let you know that we have also offered severance commensurate to their service time to each laid-off employee and modest extension of health benefits in addition to what the state provides.

1:58:47

We also are providing them with access to support and resources to assist them with their career transition.

1:58:52

These include job coaching sessions, meetings with a workforce development specialist and a recruiter, and access to job resources, with SDHC covering the cost for these services.

1:59:02

We're also continuing to make our employee assistance program available to our staff who were laid off.

1:59:07

The program includes counseling for mental health and emotional needs as well as referrals for free or reduced cost programs like child care, health care, and employment services.

1:59:16

And our employee assistance program is available to assist our remaining staff during this time as well.

1:59:23

We do not anticipate any further workforce reductions beyond these steps.

1:59:27

This workforce reduction, along with many other measures, will help support ongoing financial stability of the agency.

1:59:33

And with that increased stability, we will continue to provide housing assistance and person-centered customer service to the thousands of families with low income that rely on the housing commission.

1:59:43

We also continue to implement and explore additional measures to contain costs and where possible to continue to generate revenue.

1:59:52

Although this is a difficult time for our agency, we must continue to advocate for state and federal resources.

1:59:58

That is more important now than ever.

2:00:00

Last month we met with the California Association of Housing Authorities, State officials, and San Diego's legislative led delegation in Sacramento.

2:00:08

We discussed relevant state legislation around housing, the latest from HUD and federal administration, as well as the latest innovations around the state, and we advocated for continued stable funding from the state for homelessness programs and for a health affordable housing development.

2:00:23

And this month we are engaging in Washington, D.C.

2:00:26

with federal officials as well as the Council of Large Public Housing Authorities and the National Association of Housing and Redevelopment Officials.

2:00:34

These opportunities to meet in person are really important for us to make sure that state and federal lawmakers in particular know what funding and policies we and other housing authorities need to continue to support our communities and that they understand the true impact inadequate funding has on our agency stability and the families we serve as well as our staff.

2:00:56

We also continue to deliver our core services, providing affordable housing opportunities in our community for families that need them.

2:01:02

This includes supporting the development of additional new affordable rental homes such as the Skyline Development.

2:01:08

Skyline celebrated its grand opening on March 5th.

2:01:12

Affirmed housing developed this property, which provided 99 affordable rental apartment homes for families with very low income.

2:01:18

It's important to remember that this new housing stock, so we are adding to our housing supply, which is so critical with both the tax credit program and the project-based vouchers that we pair with them.

2:01:28

The housing commission awarded 30 project-based vouchers to help pay rent for families earning up to 30% of San Diego's area median income.

2:01:36

And with the housing authorities approval, we also authorized authorize the issuance of multifamily housing revenue bonds toward the financing for Skyline.

2:01:44

It was built on an underlyutiled parking lot at the Metropolitan to Transit Systems Rancho Bernardo Transit Station.

2:01:50

And a special thank you to Councilmember Whitburn as the chair of the MTS, and also to Councilmember Von Wilpert, whose district includes Skyline for their support of this project.

2:02:00

We also thank Mary Gloria and his staff for their efforts to make Skyline possible.

2:02:05

Finally, I have some housing commission leadership updates to share with you.

2:02:09

After 30 years of exceptional service at the housing commission, our deputy CEO Jeff Davis will be leaving us in just under three weeks now.

2:02:17

I have had the privilege of knowing Jeff as a boss, a mentor, a colleague, and as a friend.

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And I have deeply appreciated his leadership, perspective, and support, especially during his tenure as interim president and CEO and throughout the transition to my role as CEO, where he has been invaluable support.

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His insight and expertise have been invaluable to our agency, and he has touched many lives clients, peers, staff at every level of the organization over his long tenure.

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We will miss Jeff and we wish him all the best in his next adventure.

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And as Jeff prepares to depart, it is my true pleasure to share with you that Azusena Valladolid is now our chief operating officer.

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As COO, Azusena will ensure ongoing effective operations across the agency as well as fiscal stability and operational compliance for all our core functions.

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Azusena will also oversee the rental assistance and workforce development division, information technology and property management and asset management departments.

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In addition to my duties as CEO, I will continue to oversee the policy, homelessness innovations, and community initiatives divisions, and will take on oversight of our real estate finance and development division and communications department.

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After Jeff's departure, Azusena will also oversee the financial services and human resources departments.

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This is not a new position that's being created for Azusena.

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This is not backfilling her previous position, so she remains essentially in the same role with a title change, and we are also not backfilling Jeff's position.

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So this is a consolidation across those positions.

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Taking on her new COO role is a natural transition for both her talent and her expertise.

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And I am very much look forward to the leadership in insight and innovation Aussie Cena will provide as our COO.

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That concludes my report this morning.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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Thank you for your work and difficult decisions on the presentation this morning.

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Afternoon.

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With that, clerk, please proceed with public comment.

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Thank you, Council President.

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We have allegedly Audra here.

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If you can please come up to the microphone after that, we have Aaron Walmouth.

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If you can please come up to the yellow reserve seats, and then Dave Lagstein, if you can also come up to the yellow reserve seats.

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We do have quite a number of speakers, so it is one minute.

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Please proceed.

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I guess when you say FU to the federal government, they're gonna say F U too.

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And it's sad that these people had to get laid off because of your choices.

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I don't know that this program has ever been succeeding as we can see homelessness rises, people are not being had nobody can afford anything, especially rent.

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So when you sit here and you're saying you have affordable housing, that's a lie.

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It's a complete bullshit.

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It's funny, right?

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Yeah, you're so funny.

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Sitting in your suit, right?

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Mm-hmm.

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You're not one on the street having to beg and plead just to get help, are you?

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So can you have comments to the council, please?

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Yes.

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Well, and it's like, I mean, seriously, how are you going to put these people in danger of needing the assistance from this program?

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Because you're like, we're gonna we got help for you.

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You don't, because you're not even gonna be able to put them in, or you will, just like you take legal immigrants and you put them directly into housing.

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When people that have lived here and waited for decades should have gotten it.

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So it's your choices that have led to this, and you just waste our money.

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Aaron, if you can please come forward and if the following individuals can please raise their hand.

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Um Armando Castañeda, please raise your hand.

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Caitlin Bears.

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Thank you.

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Pearl Martinez.

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Irma Chate?

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Shut shoot.

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Jeanette Flores.

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Mandy Stevens.

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Yasmin Gandora.

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And Catherine Cusek.

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You'll have nine minutes, please proceed.

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Um people standing behind me are the people that serve our community of San Diego from the rental assistance department, real estate department, the homeless division.

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Also, we have people online as well that couldn't be here present, and also people that couldn't be present in the meeting because they're the work doesn't stop.

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My name is Aaron Wammouth.

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I'm a proud SEIU member.

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I'm serving as the chapter president for over a year and a steward for the last four years.

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I also have been an uh employee of the housing commission for the last five years in the homelessness division.

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San Diego Housing Commission is facing a financial crisis and has proposed cuts on employees, compensations, uh, cost of living, flex credit, and performance incentives, totaling about 4.5 million dollars in saving next fiscal year.

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During this process, the housing commission has respectfully provided information and flexible release time, allowing space for collaboration.

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And a special thanks to Lissette Vargas for taking the time for um collaborating, scheduling, and communicating.

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We really appreciate it.

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However, despite the collaboration, we have not reached their agreement.

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There is also concern about a president being set to reopen the MOU yearly and doing more with less consistently.

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After multiple attempts to develop a proposal that repres that support represented, non-represented, and management staff, the housing commission has made it clear that we must focus on represented employees only.

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Representative staff does pay the dues and they make these agreements possible.

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If you review the material that I was able to provide, the bottom chart, I don't know if you guys have, if you don't, it kind of breaks down our proposal.

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Uh you'll see our proposal still generates a significant savings for the agency.

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We understand that sacrifices are necessary, which is why SEIU has proposed freezing the performance incentive and annual proposal, saving approximately 2.15 million dollars.

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However, we are not willing to sacrifice cost of living and flex credit increases for represented staff.

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We have a petition with a high majority of members that do not agree what is happening.

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While VPs and above have chosen to take their not taking their colour and incentive, it's a softer blow for them.

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These are individuals earning over 200,000 annually, receiving guaranteed incentives like car allowance, and up to 20% more in flex credits than many frontline workers.

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That's the chart in the middle, given the breakdown of all the flex credits.

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The total contractual cola and flex credit obligation is about 2.4 million under our proposal, colour would preserve for representative staff only, while flex credit increases would support the agency as a whole.

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This proposal will cost 661,659 instead of the 2.4 million.

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We've also proposed the additional 3% increase for full-time on-site workers who are paid less.

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Which is less than the 179,040 dollars spent on car allowance for executives this physical year.

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We also suggested multiple zero cost benefits that could relieve the reduction in pay for workers.

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Although our says something, I apologize.

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Although our proposal say is approximately 3.75 million dollars.

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Yet the housing commission has maintained its position that a full 4.5 million must come from these cuts.

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Projected 23.5 million dollar deficit by the end of next physical year.

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Recently, the housing commission has made the difficult decision to lay off 33 employees two weeks ago, three weeks ago.

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About 30% were management, while the remaining were largely non-management roles.

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In one case, the achievement academy was reduced to just five frontline employees who are expected to serve approximately 800 applicants in July under the new pass to success program.

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So the question is how can five workers provide the level of person-centered service our community deserves.

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We are being asked to do more, not with less, but with significantly less.

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We remain committed to working uh collaboratively with the housing commission leadership to find solutions that are equitable, sustainable, and truly centered on the people we serve and the people that do the work.

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I thank you for all your time.

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Thank you.

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That does and we have Dave Langston as well.

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Okay, good afternoon.

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I'm Dave Lags here from SIU 221.

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Um Aaron said most of it, so I just want to amplify it.

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Our President Crystal Irving is traveling, but just want to emphasize in addition to the employees that you've heard from here, um, our 14,000 members in the region and the communities we work with, stand behind these workers, stand behind the important services that they do, and again want to acknowledge Lisa and the team working collaborating with us in a very difficult circumstances by all accounts.

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Um, but as you've heard here, we think there's more work to do that's honoring the the work of our frontline employees and getting to an agreement that continues the important work in a difficult environment.

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And one more piece that I want to share for historical reasons.

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Um, there are a number of folks that were in those 33 layoffs that are frontline workers that don't happen to be represented by SCIU.

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So we can kind of get you that data, and they have it as well.

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Um, so again, there's sort of management, and of course, we don't celebrate any layoff, but the importance of kind of preserving the frontline workers in terms of the staffing and in terms of the benefits.

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Thank you.

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The five-minute timer has started.

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I'm going to those participating remotely, starting with 8700, if you can please unmute 8700 star six.

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You'll have a minute.

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There you go.

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Thank you so much.

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Sorry about that.

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Uh Julie Signata C D3.

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Hey, I just threw out my comments.

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And and I'm gonna say this one minute.

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Uh, first of all, I I didn't fill out this one.

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I am over the moon thrilled by the changing title for as you see now.

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T to C E C O O Congratulations, she's a phenomenal human being and leader, and I'm just thrilled for her and for all of us in San Diego.

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Okay, this what's happening here is perfect because it's an example of uncertain times.

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We have to follow this.

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This is what's going to happen.

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This is what is happening.

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Let's not make it be just person centered.

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It has to be family centered.

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We have to have that.

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The family has to come to the kitchen, sit around the table, and try to figure this out together.

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I don't know what's going to be the resolution.

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Your time has concluded, sorry.

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8813, and then after that is Blair Beekman, 8813, please unmute.

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Okay, come follow here.

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Um, so yeah, okay, isn't it something that with all these agencies under the government umbrella?

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We still have people living in their cars and on the streets with all the funding, all the programs, all the departments.

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Nothing is being resolved.

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In fact, it's getting worse.

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And now we're hearing that you're even losing your own staff.

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I mean, I don't mean to laugh, but damn.

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Uh that just adds to my point.

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So if the system isn't stable enough to retain the people working inside it, how is it supposed to stabilize the people?

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It's meant to help.

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What we're seeing isn't solutions, more management of crisis that never seems to end.

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Meeting minutes, reports, while real people are outside trying to survive.

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So again, uh, with all these resources, all the purple shirts.

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Why are people still on the street?

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And how is this system expected to work when even your own staff can't be kept?

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Oh my God.

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It's so backwards.

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Wake up.

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Your time has concluded.

2:15:59

Next is Blair Beekman.

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If you can please unmute after that is Robin.

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Hi, thank you.

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Blair Beekman.

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Uh, yeah, important lessons I've learned from public comment.

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Uh, good luck that we can continue to really work towards truly affordable housing.

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I think it's possible.

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And we just have to be really uh adamant and um hopeful and and knowing that it's a good thing and want to work towards it.

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Good luck on those efforts.

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Really sad you've had to cut 33 people from uh the staff here, and that I don't quite know how it's related to City of San Diego issues, but in cutting supervisor positions, that's cutting out mental management.

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And I hope it is successful.

2:16:43

Uh it's sad.

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Uh thank you from the clarifications from Lakaba.

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He wants to talk more about uh upper echelon of people cut uh from city government uh middle management.

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Um this is middle management being cut.

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So good luck that this is uh can work, and I'm sorry it's happened.

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You've offered good compensation packages.

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You've tried.

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Thank you for your efforts.

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Thank you.

2:17:07

Next is Robin, if you can please unmute after Robin is 7499 and then Francine Maxwell, those are our final speakers.

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Please proceed.

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Did you call Robin David off?

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Yes, please proceed.

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Okay.

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I'm Robin Davidoff.

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I'm CR Clef Seal Society Chair.

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There are 51 days from the start of the 2026 C line season.

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Robin, yes.

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This is actually housing authority.

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We haven't started not agenda public comment yet.

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Got it.

2:17:35

Thank you.

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We'll come back to you.

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7499, if you can please unmute Bob Kazuski here.

2:17:48

Whenever I hear about issues affecting this city due to shortages of just a few million dollars here or there, I can't help but remember that the Tory Pines glider port has been documented as bringing in approximately 1.4 million dollars every year from over a decade ago through this very day.

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And virtually none of that money is going to this city, even though the business could not exist without using the city's land.

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So when people hear our speeches about the mismanagement of the Tory Pines glider port, remember that this kind of mismanagement affects everyone in this city.

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It's all connected.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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And Francine Maxwell is our final speaker.

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Please unmute.

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Thank you, Francine Maxwell, Southeastern San Diego.

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I was unable to speak earlier in the week when you had the Jeff Davis Day.

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We are at a um a joyful time for Jeff Davis to go away.

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He was approving illegal rent increases under the law.

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Section 8 landlords were not complying with the rent increases law, and he was consistently approving.

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So when everyone sits on the diocese and continues to give each other kudos and pats on the back, um lawsuits under Jeff Davis.

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None of those were in in the proclamation that was stated.

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We have to call out what was done.

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Everything is not cookie cutter, everything was not roses with him.

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And we look forward to working with the new COO and making sure things are done in decency and order.

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Thank you so much for allowing me to speak.

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Thank you, that Congressville comment on EJ1.

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All right.

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All right, thank you, City Clerk.

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Uh, as a reminder, this is an informational item, and no motion is required, but we'll turn it over to agency members for questions and comments.

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And we'll start with Council Member Elo Rivera.

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Thank you, Council President.

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Uh, thank you, Lisa, as always for um for the update.

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Um definitely appreciate that um the update.

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The transparency on the difficult decisions that you and your leadership team have had to make to address the structural deficit that the housing commission is facing.

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I do think it's important that we debunk some myths that were stated here today and are commonly stated.

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Is it true that undocumented immigrants are ineligible for Section 8 housing vouchers?

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Most undocumented immigrants are ineligible for Section 8 housing vouchers.

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That's correct.

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Well, well, they are they are ineligible, and we can only we can only subsidize either citizens or eligible immigrants according to the federal definition.

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Correct.

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So that's that's the those are the facts.

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And it is also true that we would be in a better position if there were local dedicated funds that the housing commission could depend on on a regular basis and would make us less vulnerable to the uh whims of uh the federal government.

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Um nonetheless, I you're addressing the problem as it's presented to you.

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You're trying to get ahead of other problems that you are anticipating uh coming to the housing commission, and and that's all done in service of protecting the immediate and long-term uh services that are residents depend on, and so thank you for that.

2:21:31

I do want to say how important I think it is for um the commission to continue to work with our frontline workers to make sure that they know that the solutions that they're being offered are given serious consideration and as well as the any concerns that they raise about the impacts of proposals that they receive.

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Um that on the ground um frontline um experience also brings with it expertise um and a intimate understanding of what um decisions will mean both for the services that are delivered and in the lives of of the workers, and that's super important and needs to um stay front and center.

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So I know we've had that conversation before.

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I know you've um made uh significant efforts to make sure that the line of communication is open with our frontline workers, and I um strongly encouraged for that to to um that effort to be maintained.

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Um it's just again critically important both for the lives of our workers and um for the our ability to deliver services.

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Um these folks know um what impacts will be felt when changes are made.

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Um thank you, Council President.

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Oh Lisa, if you like to respond by all means.

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Thank you, Councilmember.

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And um I just um I hear your comments, and I also just want to acknowledge the staff and SCIU that are here today, and thank you, Erin, for making the time.

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Um I I feel like we are working collaboratively and we may not be where we need to be yet, and we can't say much because we're in negotiations, but um, but I respect and appreciate how we're working together and um and the desire of both you and many other staff um and SEIU to show up today.

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So thank you.

2:23:13

All right, thank you, Councilmember Elo Rivera.

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We'll go next to Council Member Wetburn.

2:23:17

Thank you, Council President.

2:23:18

Uh and thank you, Ms.

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Jones, for this update.

2:23:20

Uh appreciate uh the latest on the housing commission's financial challenges and the steps that you've been taking to address them.

2:23:28

Uh you have shared with me how difficult this has been.

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Uh and I appreciate the SEIU members uh who work at the Housing Commission who joined us to share how these challenges are impacting you uh and your colleagues.

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Uh I'm glad to hear that there is collaboration and that there is dialogue in trying to figure out a fair agreement for FY27.

2:23:54

Uh and while no representative employees lost their jobs last month, I appreciate you making the point that the loss of frontline workers represented or not uh impacts other workers who are represented.

2:24:08

Uh and lastly, I just want to thank you for the work that you do.

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Uh as the representative for district three, a lot of the people who you help uh are here in my district, housed or unhoused.

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Uh it is hard work, uh, but know that it is very much appreciated.

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So thank you.

2:24:24

Uh thank you, Council President.

2:24:26

Thank you, Councilmember Whitburn, we'll go next to Councilmember Campbell.

2:24:30

Thank you, Council President.

2:24:32

Lisa, thank you for your report.

2:24:36

Um these are tough times.

2:24:39

The the amount of uh I have a question about the amount of people who will be made homeless if the federal government continues to not send us what we're supposed to have.

2:24:51

And so, based on our current estimates, um we are supporting about 1,700 more families on our program today than we are actually receiving funding for.

2:25:01

That's based on our funding estimates right now.

2:25:04

Um from the emergency housing voucher standpoint, those vouchers, we have about 390 families in that program still.

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That funding also is anticipated to end around October.

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So that's separate from the 1700 households that we're supporting today that we're not getting sufficient funding for.

2:25:23

So that's families.

2:25:28

Yes.

2:25:29

I'm trying to add this real quick.

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That's 2,090, almost 2100 households.

2:25:35

How many people would that generally be?

2:25:38

On average, our household size is around three, just under three person per household.

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So you can almost triple that.

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As a as a broad estimate.

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So about 6,000.

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6,000 people, 6,270 people are thereabouts.

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And actually, homelessness has been decreasing in the city in the past year, uh maybe even year and a half.

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And a great deal of the housing of those who are who are unable to afford housing otherwise has been due to the housing commission, who amazingly have housed so many people with so little money that they have to work with.

2:26:26

And so I just want to tell you how much I appreciate you and your staff and and your frontline workers uh being willing to squeeze those pennies and do as much as you can to help our our fellow citizens to be housed.

2:26:42

And I hope that in the future we're able to continue to help people who need our help.

2:26:47

A lot of these are working people who are still able to work, but not able to make a large amount of money.

2:26:54

Uh and then a lot of these people are disabled and absolutely cannot work.

2:26:59

So have to be have to have some help, and that's okay.

2:27:03

That's what we're that's what we're made for.

2:27:06

That's why we're here is to help each other.

2:27:08

So I thank you very much for everything that you do.

2:27:13

And uh I pray um every day that the federal government will change its mind and try to help people who need help.

2:27:23

And I I I really I uh I feel like I should share.

2:27:28

I remember the first time we talked about what was coming.

2:27:33

Uh I actually it was actually on Zoom.

2:27:37

We had a Zoom meeting, and when it was over, I turned off the computer and cried.

2:27:41

It's just heartless.

2:27:44

And I I feel so bad for the people.

2:27:47

So you know, we're gonna stand up and do the best we can to help help out.

2:27:55

And again, that's what I say, that's why God made us.

2:27:58

So we'll do our best.

2:28:00

Thank you so much.

2:28:04

Uh thank you, Councilmember Campbell.

2:28:06

Uh, not seeing anybody else in the lights, I'll just kind of uh wrap up.

2:28:09

Thank you, Lisa, for you, your entire team.

2:28:12

I know you how personal you take this and how committed you are uh to the mission of the housing uh commission.

2:28:19

Uh and uh those were very difficult decisions going forward.

2:28:23

Um to the good folks from the SEIU that do the work uh every day, and despite incredible odds against the work that you do, you show up to work every day and continue your efforts to try to bring some relief and some hope to folks that are on either just hopeless or on the verge of hopelessness, uh, and you remain undaunted.

2:28:50

Um I I just can't even begin to imagine what the daily work life is like for you and what you do.

2:28:58

You know, nobody is celebrating uh we might recognize the tiny victories uh that motivate um everyone but there is so much work to do and it's so challenging.

2:29:11

And yet year after year, neither the city nor the state nor the federal government has ever committed to sustained funding to do this work.

2:29:20

And even the funding that has been provided is not nearly enough to meet the challenge uh in front of you all on the front lines, the executive team at the housing uh commission.

2:29:34

Um actually, you know, my hope is not even is so low right now in terms with the federal government that they don't actually move forward with some of the changes that they've been talking about because I just can't even imagine what that would do at undermine that good work.

2:29:52

Um thank you for the cobbling together you're able to do to provide truly affordable housing, uh affordable to the individuals who now have a place to live and close the door behind them every night.

2:30:03

Uh it's not nearly enough, but we're grateful for the ones that are produced.

2:30:07

Uh we appreciate the MTS your work uh to provide uh new land for that to happen going forward uh and all the other uh the occasional grants that we get at the state level that make new projects like that possible.

2:30:23

So I wish you all the best and keep fighting the good fight uh and let us know how we can be an asset, which I know we can't be much of one, but nevertheless, thank you for taking the time to come down and telling your story.

2:30:38

Thank you, Lisa, for your willingness to come out and do your uh monthly update here.

2:30:44

So, with that, again, this was an information item and no motions required.

2:30:48

We will now adjourn the special meeting of the housing authority and reconvene as the city council.

2:30:56

And we will now take up non-agenda public comment.

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The council members respect and appreciate the public's input and are fully committed to protecting every participant's free speech rights at council and committee meetings.

2:31:09

And with that, clerk, please proceed with public comment.

2:31:13

Thank you.

2:31:14

Taking on general public comment from those that have not participated recently, starting with Javier Santizo.

2:31:19

If you can please come forward, you will have two minutes.

2:31:22

After that, we have Stephen Prescott, um Anthony Ralphs, allegedly Audra and Jacob Edwards, then we'll be moving on to those participating remotely.

2:31:34

Please proceed.

2:31:35

Uh buenas tardes, Presidente La Cava, Council members, thank you all for the service that you guys provide for our neighbors, our constituents.

2:31:43

My name is Javier Santiso, I'm a representative with the Western States Regional Council of Carpenters.

2:31:49

It's good to be home.

2:31:50

I've been on an odyssey for the past three years.

2:31:54

And today I bring uh to our community the awareness of tax fraud and the negative impact that it brings to our communities.

2:32:03

Tax fraud is not a victimless crime, and although it is good to be home, um I didn't expect for things to be like this in in my hometown.

2:32:14

But nonetheless, things happen, and I refuse to believe that San Diego is missing leaders because I know the majority of you on this board has done everything in their power to do their constituents right.

2:32:29

And so thank you for that.

2:32:31

But when we talk about funding, let's not forget that in the construction industry, there is 10 billions, 10 billion dollars that goes uncounted for, unaccounted for.

2:32:43

And those are dollars that pertain to our communities, our children's schools, our homeless programs, our first responders, our officers that were here this morning, our fire departments.

2:32:53

There is a lot more that we could do.

2:32:56

And to be honest and just blunt, you guys know that the Carpenters Union Local 619 has always stayed vigilant.

2:33:06

We live by our seal.

2:33:08

We are the police in our industry and our construction sites, and we are ready to put boot to rear end for these criminal contractors, because it is unfair that the men and women that build our skylines have to endure tax fraud that our communities suffer because there is criminal contractors that feel that they're able to operate, that they're able to operate lawlessly.

2:33:33

And so there is things that we could do collaboratively, and with that, I I just want to say thank you for the.

2:33:39

Thank you for that concluding comment, Stephen Prescott.

2:33:46

Thank you very much.

2:33:47

Stephen Prescott, city resident, really appreciate all the service and the good work you do, and really appreciate everybody here and the comments.

2:33:56

This is what makes democracy great.

2:33:58

A lot of pain, a lot of pain between city governments, state governments, federal governments, everybody's out of money.

2:34:04

Just wanted to offer some ideas being uh uh an entrepreneur in the city and a uh and a and a person of San Diego State graduate with an econ degree.

2:34:14

We have America's finest city here.

2:34:17

That's what we talk about.

2:34:19

And when you travel around the country, everybody agrees.

2:34:22

You go to Oklahoma, you go to the Midwest, everybody agrees.

2:34:25

We still have, even though the city is making great strides in downtown San Diego, we still have a lot of problems in downtown.

2:34:32

It's still considered gritty for various reasons.

2:34:36

And one of the things, if we can become America's cleanest city and advertise that, and we can do that through other programs that might be more citizen-led, uh, like private contracts that are benchmarked by third party organizations to make us America's cleanest city.

2:34:53

And we start advertising that, all of a sudden, we're gonna get people coming back to downtown.

2:35:00

All of a sudden, we're gonna get more tourists in downtown staying at the hotels, paying more hotel taxes to fill the city's budget gaps.

2:35:06

The other thing, we do have assets in this city.

2:35:09

Uh uh, Council President Joe Lakava said we'd like to be an asset.

2:35:13

We do have assets in the city, we have wonderful assets.

2:35:16

One of those is Marina Village.

2:35:18

It was not put on the city's auction block or the uh the lease, the Lisa RFP process.

2:35:25

Marina Village is a wonderful asset.

2:35:27

The city doesn't have to spend any money on that.

2:35:29

Private developers can come take that over, pay the city money to redevelop that asset.

2:35:35

That asset, and then also we have uh parking situations.

2:35:39

Parking has been tried and trued or tried and tested over at Baboa Park Balboa Park with mixed results.

2:35:46

However, other municipalities have implemented parking.

2:35:49

Thank you for that concluding comment.

2:35:52

Anthony Ross.

2:35:56

Good morning, counsel.

2:35:57

How are you doing today?

2:35:59

Um I just wanted to share uh some things from Plato's Republic.

2:36:03

Uh it's a dialogue that Socrates is having with Glaucon.

2:36:06

And the reason why I wanted to share it is because uh well, backtracking a little bit.

2:36:10

Um, it was a class that I took last semester.

2:36:12

I'm a student, and it was a philosophy of justice class, and yesterday when we had the meeting um about the or that with the presentation that was given by SDPD, um, there was so much uh in policing and the attitude in policing uh goes to apprehending criminals and goes to the physical aspect, and there is not enough um regard to the uh components that are intellectual that are uh have to deal with knowledge and they have to deal with sociology that have to deal with psychology.

2:36:40

Um I googled yesterday what the requirements are to join the STPD, and I learned that uh one is not required to have more than a high school uh diploma or a GED.

2:36:49

Um I did see that there are uh positions that are offered in leadership if one has a degree in sociology and psychology, and I do think that that's something that we really need to emphasize with our police forces a more comprehensive training.

2:37:01

I'm concerned that a lot of the training that is given to the police force goes towards funding for SWAT vehicles, more armament, more weapons, and that's not what is necessarily needed when we go into communities that are struggling just to put food on the table.

2:37:16

Um, they don't need uh like I think it was Maxine Walters who said in public comment yesterday.

2:37:21

Uh, she said we need more uh women on the force, we need more people of color on the force, um, because that enables uh people in these communities of color, uh, people in these underrepresented communities to feel like they have a connection to the people that are uh coming into their communities for whatever reason or for whatever purpose.

2:37:40

Um I don't know, I only have 15 seconds left, so I guess I'll have to save the reading for another time, but um, to be continued, I guess, and uh thank you for your time.

2:37:49

Thank you, allegedly, Audra.

2:37:51

After that, we'll be Jacob Edwards.

2:38:02

The devil's always in the details, socialist Sean.

2:38:05

I'm not talking about just HUD.

2:38:07

He wanted to, you know, brush things under the rug, but let's be real here.

2:38:11

Most, right?

2:38:12

That means all.

2:38:13

Yeah, exactly.

2:38:14

Um, it is interesting speaking about the devil and say the synagogue of Satan that has occupied our nation.

2:38:22

I'm wondering if it's anti-Semitic to say that Israel has occupied our nation.

2:38:27

Is it anti-Semitic to say that pedophilia is a problem when we have people like Scott Weiner who rapes children?

2:38:34

Is that anti-Semitism?

2:38:36

Um, I'm wondering if saying that Jewish family services traffic children, men and women across our border and lost a bunch of children, right?

2:38:45

Is that I'm wondering if you know, talking about Israel being created by the Rothschilds in 1948, um, and it being the synagogue of Satan, I'm wondering if that is.

2:38:57

Um is it anti-Semitic to talk about the Talmud and how it talks about having sex with children?

2:39:06

Um that rabbis like to copulate uh young boys who have been circumcised.

2:39:12

Is that anti-Semitic?

2:39:14

I'm wondering when we're going to actually address the things because this is not agenda public comment.

2:39:21

Anti-Semitism is on the afternoons.

2:39:24

I know, but you're talking about anti-Semitism.

2:39:29

Okay, that's fine, but you can speak this afternoon during that item.

2:39:34

Okay.

2:39:35

Talk about non-agenda things that are not on today's agenda.

2:39:38

You're talking about anti-Semitism, you've said it several times.

2:39:43

Okay, finish your comments.

2:39:50

Okay.

2:39:51

So I'm just it's interesting that people will care about certain things like that, but we allow children to be abused like this, and everybody wants to brush it under the rug.

2:40:06

San Diego has a huge problem with pedophilia.

2:40:12

And why is it that you want to silence me on that?

2:40:14

That's very interesting because you want to pretend that it's like because we have another item about that.

2:40:19

No, you just don't want to hear the truth about what's being done to children that you guys all support.

2:40:28

What happened to the children that were at the convention center?

2:40:32

Okay, you guys know they were trafficked, even people that were working there know that.

2:40:37

It is very disturbing to see the way you guys do things.

2:40:40

Your devils in the detailed Jacob Edwards.

2:40:47

I gotta say with that last speaker.

2:40:49

Uh wow.

2:40:51

Um let me start by saying uh thank you for the kind work you do for the city of San Diego.

2:40:58

Um and sir, thank you, uh Councilman for your uh recognition of um uh the divisiveness federal activity is causing.

2:41:09

Um I've shared with City Council events on the East Coast that led to some things that have seriously affected our country.

2:41:20

I've shared with you a little bit what I've gone through with my family.

2:41:26

I've shared with you an attempted assassination against me.

2:41:30

I don't stand in front of you, share any of these things to uh to come down on you to come down the city of San Diego.

2:41:39

I share them with you to bring them to your attention through being victimized, terrorized in some sense, sorts.

2:41:50

I'm fully aware of what our federal government and agencies are up to, and it's for who's in the driver's seat.

2:41:59

I know how they are nefariously using grant money with conditions behind the grant money.

2:42:08

Very concerning.

2:42:10

You know how they're running grant money through mayor's offices and ways of hijacking cities.

2:42:16

I know how they're using homeless people with promises of housing, jobs to be put up to do concerning things.

2:42:25

I know how they're using early release inmates with conditions of their early release, very concerning.

2:42:33

So I know an awful lot when I discussed what I went through at the front door of City Hall to stay safe.

2:42:44

Was very real.

2:42:47

The way it was handled by the police department, I consider infiltrated.

2:42:51

But the slack.

2:42:52

Thank you for that concluding comment.

2:42:53

That does conclude your time.

2:42:56

That does conclude your time.

2:42:58

We have five minutes on the timer for those participating remotely.

2:43:01

We currently have six, sorry, eight speakers in the queue.

2:43:04

Kathleen Lippett, if you can please raise your hand after that.

2:43:07

Is um Robin?

2:43:12

Thank you.

2:43:15

City Council Campillo commented on tourists.

2:43:18

Tourists come from all over the world to the city of San Diego, and they are a critical source of rep city revenues.

2:43:25

But a drive from Mission Valley to the airport or the seat of our own city government along main streets of downtown is a should be a source of shame.

2:43:35

The homeless sleeping and wandering aimlessly in need of mental health services, billboards, the telegraph, the city's tolerance and acceptance of marijuana promotions, roadsides and empty lots littered with trash, buildings adjoining them, becoming canvases for graffiti and gang slogans.

2:43:55

These are red flags that the city's policies are worsening, not ameliorating the problems that plague our city.

2:44:11

And it shows a lack of concern and commitment to a city standard that should recognize clean streets are essential for public health, environmental protection, and community pride.

2:44:22

They prevent clogged storm cream drains, reduce maintenance costs, and otherwise unnecessarily flooded, flooded related repairs.

2:44:32

And it shows a lack of gratitude and appreciation for one's beautiful city with a standard that reflected a commitment to the health and well-being of its residents and the land that it occupies.

2:44:45

It hardly makes sense for the city to blame federal government for failing to provide the funds necessary to address the increasing number of homeless in need of mental health services and drug treatment when the city flaunted that standard that recognized the potential of public harm that would come from embracing a for-profit predatory third drug industry after tobacco and alcohol.

2:45:13

You need to recognize your own what contributions.

2:45:17

Thank you for that concludes your time.

2:45:20

Robin, if you can please unmute after Robin is Ernie Casco.

2:45:26

Hello, I'm Robin David Off, Sierra Club SEAL Society Chair.

2:45:30

There are 51 days from the start of the 2026 sea lion puppy season at Point La Jolla and La Jolla Cove.

2:45:37

Our mission is zero sea lion pup deaths caused by unsafe human wildlife encounters at the cove.

2:45:43

La Jolla Cove was just ranked number one beach in the United States by TripAdvisor with over 50% of the votes mentioning the sea lions.

2:45:51

This creates a love it to death scenario.

2:45:53

Increased tourism is bringing unprecedented management challenges to keep people and wildlife apart.

2:45:59

We've presented our concerns to the California Coastal Commission every month over the past year, and their members have been overwhelmingly supportive of our proposed solutions.

2:46:09

Commissioner O'Malley emphasized that city rangers must be present at the cove on the beach.

2:46:14

And Commissioner Jackson called the use of signs, cones, and tape to separate people from wildlife common sense.

2:46:21

While rangers' presence at the cove has increased and they're making announcements, it's not quite enough to handle the upcoming summer crowds.

2:46:28

To protect both the public and the wildlife, we are asking the city council to authorize the following commissioner-approved actions through the modification of the long-term management plan.

2:46:38

Assigned rangers to manage crowds on the beach with eight-frame signs on the beach to serve as a viewing guideline to stay behind.

2:46:45

Place cones and tape to create temporary buffers around sea lion pups and injured animals.

2:46:50

And this is done in LA County and Del Mar and other places along the coast.

2:46:54

Temporarily close the gate on the western stairs when sea lions are resting on them, and public access would remain open on the eastern stairs.

2:47:01

And install signage with pictures with a 20-foot distance from the sea lions.

2:47:05

We have 51 days to ensure that the 2026 season is a success for San Diego and its wildlife.

2:47:12

Thank you.

2:47:14

Next is Ernie Casco.

2:47:16

If you can please unmute after that is Becky Repp.

2:47:21

Thank you.

2:47:22

Ernie Casco, Lahoy resident, senior pilot at Tory Pines Glad.

2:47:27

I reported serious allegations going on at the glider port to SDPD, the real estate assets department, and directly to your office, Joe Lacava.

2:47:36

Where are the police reports, Council Member Foster?

2:47:39

There are laws to protect public rights that stop this injustice immediately.

2:47:45

I am completely under threat of violence.

2:47:47

How dangerous is your leaseholder?

2:47:49

This is a workplace violence, wrongful termination, work map comp case, negligent homicide, attempted murder case, and assault over the death of a pilot for speaking out in retaliation.

2:48:00

Your leaseholder switched my wing that collapsed in mid-flight.

2:48:03

That is attempted murder.

2:48:05

I crashed on a rooftop.

2:48:06

My home was invaded twice.

2:48:08

My life threatened in the park parking lot, gangster style.

2:48:12

And under the influence employee screwed up my launch, totaling my glider, breaking my pelvis.

2:48:18

I was threatened in the uh by an employee mess sales and poisoned with a deadly biohazard combo.

2:48:25

Now I'm dying with stage four cancer, disabled for life, and you are liable for it.

2:48:31

This is an ongoing hate crime that needs to stop.

2:48:34

No citizen should have their life threatened or die over the commercialization of a park.

2:48:39

It's time to stop the crime with the permanent reinstatement of Tory Pine's glide report advisory board and an immediate halt and implementation of the San Diego recreational waiver.

2:48:51

It's time to do your job.

2:48:52

Address the victims and witnesses who have been damaged by a negligent glider port operation.

2:48:59

It's a win for city council liabilities, restores our recreational rights and freedoms for years to come, and shows badly needed responsible city park management management, Jolacaba, which you don't have.

2:49:13

Time to step up to the plate and do your job.

2:49:16

Stop the crime at Tory Pines Gladport.

2:49:20

Thank you.

2:49:22

Next is Becky Rapp.

2:49:23

The five-minute timer has also concluded there are six people in the queue.

2:49:26

No additional speakers will be taken.

2:49:28

Becky Rapp, please continue.

2:49:30

After that is AA13.

2:49:32

Great.

2:49:33

Good evening.

2:49:44

Recently, Assembly Bill 8 went into effect, a law that closes a dangerous loophole preventing intoxicating hemp derived products such as Delta 8 and other synthetic THC products from being sold in our city.

2:50:00

These products are untested, mislabeled, and easily accessible to youth in smoke shops, convenience stores, and um and vape retailers.

2:50:12

Despite the law, we continue to see these products on shelves as enforcement is seriously lacking.

2:50:19

Last week in Oceanside, authorities seized over 100 pounds of these illegal products.

2:50:27

This multi-agency effort involved the drug enforcement administration.

2:50:33

And it highlights the scale of the problem and the level of enforcement that's required to address it.

2:50:40

These same types of products are being sold right here in San Diego, and many retailers continue to ignore the law.

2:50:47

Passing AB8 was an important step, but without enforcement, it's just words on paper.

2:50:52

I urge this council to act by confiscating illegal products, issuing fines, and collecting on those fines.

2:50:59

For repeat offenders, license suspension or revocation would also send a strong message that San Diego will not tolerate illegal sales.

2:51:10

This is a public health, a public safety issue, and it requires immediate attention.

2:51:15

Please prioritize enforcement and uphold the law.

2:51:19

Thank you.

2:51:20

Thank you, Nexus A813.

2:51:22

After that is 8700.

2:51:29

Okay, don't follow here.

2:51:31

So I just want to say how fooled you on the dais have the people anvil.

2:51:37

The ones barely paying attention, the union slaves that lick the boots of government.

2:51:43

They've been so programmed, they can't think outside the box.

2:51:47

Hell, they don't even know there's a freaking box.

2:51:49

People have become so addicted to trauma, so desensitized to suffering of others, they that they scroll past it, walk past it, and normalize it.

2:52:00

Their minds have been hijacked.

2:52:02

It truly is an Aurelian dystopian nightmare.

2:52:05

And as I've mentioned before, this local government does not work for the people.

2:52:09

It does not truly care about resolving issues because that's not the job.

2:52:14

It's not lucrative.

2:52:16

There's no profit in solving problems.

2:52:18

There is no expansion of control and empowered, self-sufficient people.

2:52:23

So instead, what do we see?

2:52:25

A system designed to keep people believing in it, believing in the illusion that they cannot manage themselves.

2:52:30

They need permission, they need oversight, they need government to survive.

2:52:35

And over time, that conditioning has worked to the point where human beings have actually forgotten how to feed themselves, how to plant, grow, and harvest real food, completely disconnected from their own ability to live, to sustain, to thrive, entirely dependent.

2:52:53

And that dependence is not on accident.

2:52:56

It's not by accident, it's by design.

2:52:58

So yes, I look forward to the day people wake up, wake up to the fraud, the waste, and the absolute abuse coming from this local government because it's a matter of time.

2:53:08

You're you are anything but transparent, anything but equitable, anything but trustworthy.

2:53:15

And until people start questioning that deeply, this cycle will continue.

2:53:21

But that awakening is coming, and when it does, everything changes.

2:53:25

And to Mr.

2:53:26

Ernie, another trillion dollar lucrative business is cancer.

2:53:31

So there are so many things that you can do, brother.

2:53:34

Included 8700, if you can please unmute after that as a music.

2:53:49

Yeah, city clerk.

2:53:52

I apologize.

2:53:53

I'm I'm it's a little sticky with my phone right now.

2:53:55

I'm sorry.

2:53:56

Uh Joy Sanyata C D3.

2:54:00

Again, I threw out my comments.

2:54:03

Uh Council Member Foster the third.

2:54:09

You're at the top of my list because you belong there.

2:54:19

You said once again, I come from a place of love.

2:54:31

And you're also the chair of our budget and government efficiency committee.

2:54:38

Thank you for that.

2:54:40

Or are we gonna need you this cycle?

2:54:44

And so I'm gonna try my best to overlay.

2:54:50

I come from a place of love.

2:54:55

Each time I speak.

2:55:00

And each time I find myself judging others, I do.

2:55:06

So I'll just say this.

2:55:10

Tomorrow's rules.

2:55:13

And uh I was gonna continue my second half of my comments today on the pension item from the UT article.

2:55:20

I'll start that tomorrow probably because I don't feel comfortable about addressing it right now.

2:55:27

I'm gonna certainly have to use love when I speak of what I'm gonna speak with on the pension item.

2:55:33

So thank you for being there for us today.

2:55:37

It's not perfect.

2:55:38

We're stumbling together.

2:55:41

We have to be one family, not just one person centered, but one family centered.

2:55:47

That's the way we're gonna make San Diego great.

2:55:50

Thank you for listening.

2:55:51

I love all of you.

2:55:53

Thank you for that concluding remark.

2:55:54

Zoom user, if you can please unmute.

2:55:57

After that is Blair Beekman, and then 7499.

2:56:00

Please proceed.

2:56:01

Thanks for taking my calls, Hector.

2:56:04

Hey, I want to talk about the city making some long-term uh money over the long term.

2:56:11

I was out riding my bike around Mission Bay this morning, and I went around Tianza Cove and the Deanza old trailer park.

2:56:19

It's still empty right on the water there.

2:56:22

It's a piece of vacant land.

2:56:24

It's been vacant for like 10 or 15 years, just kind of sitting there.

2:56:29

And you look at the palm trees, they're like 60 feet high.

2:56:34

The Hilton could build a nice resort right there.

2:56:37

We could the city could lease it to them for 50 years, 40 years.

2:56:42

Let them build it for another group.

2:56:45

We gotta get going on that source of long-term revenue for all the city.

2:56:50

Now, when you go across from there for the golf course, the city had a restaurant there for a long time, and it'd been vacant for like 15 years.

2:57:01

Nobody could buy a burger in there, and now they're just gonna open up one just this next month.

2:57:07

A new breweries open it up at a city owned place, they lease it out to the Bureau.

2:57:14

But it took the city 15 years to build it.

2:57:17

It's only like 2,000 square feet.

2:57:21

So we don't want to build no hotels.

2:57:24

We don't want to build nothing.

2:57:26

We want to lease the property and collect the payments.

2:57:30

And then, you know, I think that would be like when we did on the golf course.

2:57:35

That was a total waste of us building it.

2:57:38

Now we leased it for a million or something.

2:57:41

But uh, we gotta look for sources of revenue other than charging us parking, and no parking at the beach.

2:57:48

Don't even put it on the agenda.

2:57:51

That's like an abomination.

2:57:54

Don't even think about it.

2:57:57

Okay.

2:57:58

So have a good day, man.

2:57:59

Say bye.

2:58:00

Next speaker is Blair Beekman.

2:58:02

If you can please unmute after that is 7499.

2:58:06

And then our final speaker is 7234.

2:58:08

Please proceed.

2:58:10

All right, thank you, uh, Blair Beekman.

2:58:12

Uh, to better clarify my my previous uh public comments from consent.

2:58:16

Uh, I'm better understanding uh for the uh uh rancho Bernardo park issues, it's asking for grant funding money, 2.5 million dollars.

2:58:26

It's it's a grant fund ask.

2:58:27

Uh I thought you were being granted that money already.

2:58:30

I'm sorry.

2:58:31

I hope that clarification can help.

2:58:33

Um thank you for the words of Joyce Sonata.

2:58:36

Uh I at Vision Zero item yesterday we had uh I spoke that we need to be learning the importance of uh what the individual can understand uh to build the future of how to understand uh speed limit uh designs and stuff to reduce speeds, and um it's from that individual effort comes the connection with other people, the community that it is a good thing, and that we are doing a good thing.

2:59:02

And the work with tech accountability, I think can really lend itself to options people have that they can have a voice in the process and that we can be doing this together.

2:59:14

And I think those those things are so important that you know we don't feel like totally helpless as community, we don't have any choices.

2:59:23

And working Vision Zero like that, uh, that the community has choices to work together, you know, to build a better community.

2:59:31

Uh it's learning how we do that together.

2:59:33

Good luck in those efforts.

2:59:35

Uh uh with that said, uh, Tony uh offered public comment today.

2:59:40

Thank you.

2:59:41

I think uh the future of uh we can be uh addressing flock still, possibly.

2:59:47

I've described Oakland has uh made compromise ways to in the next two years slowly leave flock and in that time look for a new vendor.

3:00:00

We can be doing that same sort of work in in San Diego and working towards best principles in this time of war.

3:00:04

And that's a new concept we're all learning to better do.

3:00:07

It's a it's a fragile time.

3:00:09

Good luck we can still talk about peace and open space.

3:00:14

And then 7234 is after that.

3:00:16

7499.

3:00:21

Bob Kazuski here.

3:00:23

Yesterday I showed you all part of the City Council video from December 7th, 2010.

3:00:28

After my presentation, we all watched newly elected councilwoman Lori Zapp enthusiastically tell of her husband being a hang glider pilot and that she was interested in the interest in the top issue of the Tory Pines glider port.

3:00:42

Unfortunately, we also watched Sherry Leitner shut her down, saying, quote, our office will talk to your office, and quote, the issue is well in hand.

3:00:50

Those statements are on the record.

3:00:52

Now, what kind of backroom corruption is that?

3:00:55

What did Sherry Leitner's office say to Lori Zapp's office that shut Laurie Zap down for eight years?

3:01:01

In her entire eight years on the city council, Lori Zapp never mentioned the glider port again, not once.

3:01:06

Lori Zapp refused all meetings by those of us trying to reform the glider port again for all of her eight years.

3:01:13

What is going on in this city that an enthusiastic young councilwoman is shut down on the one issue where she is more of an expert than practically anyone else in this entire city?

3:01:24

There's something really rotten going on at that glider port, and Joe LaCava surely knows the same dirty little secret that shut Laurie Zapp down for eight years.

3:01:32

So the corruption continues.

3:01:34

With regard to the missing picture of President Trump, the San Diego City Council chambers have respectfully displayed a picture of the current president for decades.

3:01:43

The presidential picture was displayed for all presidents from both sides of the aisle for all of those decades.

3:01:49

Yesterday, Councilmember Eloh Rivera showed his disrespect for the United States by admitting that the presidential picture was removed under his council presidency.

3:01:59

However, Councilmember Elo Rivera's disrespect for our country does not justify current council president Lakava carrying on with that same disrespect.

3:02:22

Our final speaker is 7234.

3:02:30

7234, I can unmute for you.

3:02:39

Can you hear me?

3:02:40

Yes, please proceed.

3:02:42

Hi, good afternoon, uh City Council, and happy St.

3:02:46

Patrick's Day.

3:02:46

My name is Terry Ann Stelly.

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I'm a parent and public health educator and a city planning group member.

3:02:53

Um reviewing air quality in the city of San Diego and the role of tobacco-related disease and death in it.

3:03:01

It is very important to address disparities.

3:03:04

The overall conclusion that tobacco takes a higher toll on less advantaged people is not new, but needs to be carefully regarded when policies regarding smoking and vaping are considered.

3:03:16

Here in San Diego, Stan Glanz, faculty member at the University of California's San Francisco School of Medicine in the division of cardiology stated, and I quote, it is important to recognize the growing number of cannabis in undermining tobacco control and contributing to health disparities, especially given the prevalence of tobacco and cannabis co-use in youth and young adults, and the social, economic, and health disparities associated with chronic or daily use of marijuana tobacco use, which is of grave concern for public health educators who work on behalf of 18 to 30 year olds, and those of us who are a parent to that age group.

3:03:58

Protecting all city residents from exposure to secondhand tobacco and cannabis smoke in all indoor and outdoor settings should be a priority.

3:04:08

Reducing the availability and advertising related to tobacco and marijuana should be a priority in our city.

3:04:16

And spring 2026 would be the best time for our city to consider an emergency ban of marijuana and tobacco smoking and vaping in all public spaces.

3:04:28

Thank you for hearing my concerns this afternoon.

3:04:31

Thank you.

3:04:31

That concludes the agenda public comment for today's meeting.

3:04:34

All right, thank you, City Clerk.

3:04:35

And just for the record, the individual that spoke yesterday was Francine Maxwell, not Maxine Waters.

3:04:42

With that, we will now adjourn for the noon recess and reconvene open session at 2 p.m.

3:04:47

or shortly thereafter.

3:05:12

Marco Espinosa.

3:05:14

Marco Espinoza.

3:05:15

Please come to the front, please.

3:06:05

I did want to say a thank you to those that are holding signs that you're either in the back row or on the side.

3:06:11

We really try to make sure that everybody has a clear view to the city council.

3:06:15

So thank you for taking those positions.

3:06:22

And I'll be reading disruption language and how we deal with that.

3:06:28

But uh want to wait until we have at least five council members to get started.

3:06:32

The item that I think most of you are here for is actually the second item we're going to hear this afternoon.

3:06:38

Uh we have an important item regarding Barrio Logan that we'll hear first and uh deal with.

3:06:44

So stay tuned.

3:07:02

Can Dave Engel or and Riot Khan please come up to the front?

3:07:06

Dave Engel and Riad Kahn, please come up to the front.

3:07:49

Okay, we are going to get started.

3:07:51

We have uh actually six of us here, so we'll get this meeting started.

3:07:56

Good afternoon.

3:07:57

I will now reconvene the city council meeting of Tuesday, March 17th, 2026.

3:08:02

Clerk, please call the roll.

3:08:04

Thank you, Council President.

3:08:05

Councilmember Campbell.

3:08:10

Here.

3:08:11

Councilmember Foster.

3:08:14

Councilmember Von Wilbert, present.

3:08:17

Council President Pro Tem Lee.

3:08:18

Here.

3:08:19

Councilmember Campio.

3:08:20

Here.

3:08:21

Councilmember Moreno.

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Present.

3:08:23

Councilmember Elo Rivera.

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And Council President Lacava.

3:08:27

Present.

3:08:27

Also attending the meeting, our assistant city attorney, Michelle Garland, independent budget analyst Charles Matica, Council of Affairs Advisor and the Mayor's Office, Coda Zeiser, and myself, your city clerk, Deanna Fuentes.

3:08:37

Thank you, Council President.

3:08:38

Thank you, City Clerk.

3:08:39

Quorum is now present, so we can start the meeting.

3:08:50

So before we start today's meeting, I want to remind everyone about the city's practices and procedures for public comment at City Council meetings.

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The city welcomes public participation at our city council meetings.

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Speakers may address the council during public comment and also in connection with a specific item of business on the agenda.

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However, the city must make sure that no one person or group of people disrupt the meeting in a way that prohibits other speakers from expressing their ideas and opinions.

3:09:19

Excessive yelling, screaming, or speaking beyond one's allotted time are examples of behavior that disrupts the meeting.

3:09:25

So to make sure that everyone here has an opportunity to address the council, I will alert an individual or individuals if I think their conduct becomes disruptive.

3:09:34

If the disruption continues, I will rule the individual out of order.

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And if the disruption continues further, I will declare a recess so that we can restore order.

3:09:42

At this point, I will direct the individual to leave the room.

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And then if the individual refuses to leave, please will escort the individual out of the building.

3:09:50

Do not make me do that, please.

3:09:52

If we have to repeat the process of warning and recessing the meeting, all members of the public will be excused from the council chamber.

3:09:58

Credential media will be allowed to remain.

3:10:00

Once again, we have these practices and procedures to protect the rights of others who wish to address the council and to allow the council to conduct the public's business.

3:10:09

And as I like to add at the end, in a process that I think a farmer council member said, there are gonna be a lot of pastors.

3:10:16

You're gonna hear things you really agree with, you're gonna hear things you really don't agree with.

3:10:20

And the best way to communicate with us without disrupting the meeting or the people's ability to speak is to give us a thumbs up when you hear things you agree with, and of course, the thumbs down if you hear things that you don't agree with.

3:10:32

It is very effective.

3:10:33

You're very visible during the course of the meeting and as people speak, and that way we allow everybody their opportunity uh to express their opinion.

3:10:43

As I mentioned, we have one item uh that we first have to address.

3:10:47

Clerk, please introduce item 331.

3:10:51

Thank you, Council President.

3:10:52

Item 331 is the Barrio Logan Community Plan Amendment and rezone.

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If you're here to speak on this item, please be sure to spit your spec submit your speaker slip to the front of the room in the clear box.

3:11:02

And if you're participating remotely, now is the time to raise your hand by pressing star nine or the raise your hand icon.

3:11:07

Thank you, Council President.

3:11:09

All right, thank you for introducing the item.

3:11:12

Uh staff, uh, please introduce yourselves for the record and let us know how much time you need for your presentation.

3:11:18

Thank you, Council President, Councilmember State Galloway, Deputy Director of City Planning Department.

3:11:22

I'm joined today by senior planner Victoria T is also with the City Planning Department.

3:11:35

Hello, uh, my name is Victoria Tees, and I'm going to be presenting on item um 331, Barrio Logan Community Plan Amendments and Rezone, and we should need about eight minutes.

3:11:45

All right, when you're ready.

3:11:49

The City Council adopted the Barrio Logan Community Plan update in December 2021.

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This item aligned land uses with the general plan, addressed mobility and access to public spaces, provided design guidance for new development, and celebrated Barrio Logan's arts and culture.

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It also eliminated residential and industry conflicts through land use zoning and a transition zone.

3:12:14

It retained the waterfront's employment role and established a village with how a village area with housing opportunities.

3:12:20

The Barrio Logan Community Plan Area is also within the coastal zone.

3:12:25

Following the adoption of the community plan in 2021, the community plan was submitted to the California Coastal Commission for certification.

3:12:33

In June of 2023, the California Coastal Commission conditionally certified the community plan with 53 modifications.

3:12:41

The City Council adopted these modifications in November of the same year, and the community plan received final certification from the Coastal Commission in December of 2023.

3:12:53

The proposed actions for this item include an amendment to the Barrio Logan Community Plan that would correct land use map errors that occurred with the 2023 community plan amendment and rezones that would bring consistency between land use designations in the plan and the zones for parks.

3:13:09

Each of these changes are technical changes only and are being brought forward to ensure alignment with the original vision of the adopted community plan.

3:13:19

The adopted 2021 Barrio Logan Community Plans land use map identified various park land uses adjacent to Interstate 5, consistent with the parks and recreation facilities map.

3:13:31

The land use map also designated the area generally located between 32nd Street, Main Street, and Bryant Street as neighborhood village.

3:13:40

As part of the updated Barrio Logan Community Plan, the City Council also adopted comprehensive free zones of land in the Barrio Logan community planning area to implement the community plan's land use designations.

3:13:53

Earlier this year, city planning became aware that Caltrans was in the process of selling a property on the western corner of Boston Avenue and 29th Street.

3:14:02

This property was designated as a park and as a part of the Boston Avenue neighborhood park that was adopted with the plan, which the plan um that which is the plan that guides land uses within the community.

3:14:17

However, because of an erroneous commercial zone that was applied to this property, there is a potential buyer that operates car washes.

3:14:25

Regardless of the erroneous zone, if the property were sold, any future commercial projects would still need to be consistent with the community plans park land use.

3:14:35

Because the parcel is also in the coastal commit in the coastal zone, any future development would also require a coastal development permit.

3:14:42

To meet the findings of a coastal development permit, an amendment to the community plan would be required to allow for commercial use, which city staff would not support due to its inconsistency with the planned park use.

3:14:54

The California Transportation Commission will be deciding the final sale of the property at its meeting on March 19th.

3:15:01

The city has submitted a letter to the commission opposing the sale of the property.

3:15:05

However, as soon as city planning became aware of the need for these technical amendments, we began processing the action before you today to clean up the errors.

3:15:17

The first proposed change for the Barrio Logan Community Plan amendment is a technical amendment that would correct the land use map errors.

3:15:24

The map on the left shows what the city council adopted in the 2021 community plan update.

3:15:30

The map on the right shows what was adopted with the 2023 amendment to the community plan.

3:15:35

The errors occurred during the adoption of the 2023 community plan amendment for the Coastal Commission's requested modifications to the community plan for its certification with the local coastal program.

3:15:46

The errors to be corrected, uh the error to be corrected is to apply the park land use to these properties again.

3:15:53

The amendment would revise the land use map from the 2023 community plan as shown on the left to be the same as the land use map originally adopted in the 2021 community plan update as shown on the right.

3:16:09

To make the current land use map consistent with the land uses adopted as a part of the 2021 Barrio Logan Community Plan, the follow the following areas will be redesignated.

3:16:19

Between 29th Street and 32nd Street on Boston Avenue, three acres will be redesignated from right of way to park, which is consistent with the current park zone.

3:16:29

Between Main Street and Interstate 5, 4.2 acres will be redesignated from neighborhood commercial to park, which is consistent with the current park zone.

3:16:38

Lastly, between 32nd Street, Main Street, and Interstate 5, 4.7 acres will be redesignated from neighborhood commercial to neighborhood village, allowing for potential future residential development.

3:16:51

This change is consistent with the current neighborhood commercial zone.

3:16:57

The proposed rezones would bring consistency between the park land use designation and the base zones of parks identified in the community plans land use map and the parks and recreation facilities map.

3:17:10

Chicano Park and a portion of the Boston Avenue Linear Park would be rezoned to park zones to be consistent with the existing and planned park uses.

3:17:18

Open space park zones are applied to active public parks.

3:17:23

The proposed change would rezone 13.8 acres of Chicano Park and the adjacent street from community commercial to park and rezone 1.8 acres of Chicano Park from office commercial to park.

3:17:36

The land is owned by the city and Caltrans.

3:17:39

The proposed rezone would not change the boundaries of Chicano Park, nor would it affect any existing or future park uses or operations.

3:17:47

Additionally, the proposed change would rezone one point the 1.8 acre portion of Boston Avenue Linear Park designated as a park in the community plan from the community commercial to park zone.

3:18:01

This land is owned by Caltrans.

3:18:05

This item was presented to the Barrio Logan Community Planning Group on February 18th, 2026, and was recommended for approval to the council by a vote of eight yes, no no's and one abstention.

3:18:17

The planning group recommended that staff meet with the Chicano Park Steering Committee prior to the council hearing.

3:18:22

Staff was unable to meet prior to today's hearing.

3:18:25

The Chicano Park Steering Committee members have stated their concern that the rezone for the Chicano Park was not presented to the committee for their recommendation and concern that the rezone would reduce the boundaries of the park.

3:18:37

Staff has verified that the boundaries of the park would remain unchanged.

3:18:42

On February 19th, 2026, this item was presented to the planning commission, who recommended the community plan amendments and rezone for approval by a vote of four yes, no no's and no abstentions with one recusal.

3:18:59

The community plan amendments and rezone are consistent with the 2021 addendum to the Barrio Logan Community Plan Update Program EIR or Environmental Impact Report.

3:19:09

The community plan amendment reflects what was analyzed in the 2021 addendum to the Barrio Logan Community Plan Update PEIR, thus the amendment would not result in new impacts or changes to circumstances that would require a subsequent or a new EIR.

3:19:25

Additionally, there is no new information available that was not a part of the environmental document and or considered with the subsequent review of this amendment, which identifies new significant effects not addressed in the previous document or substantial increases in the severity of the previously identified effects.

3:20:00

Staff recommends to the city council approve the resolution amending the Barrio Logan Community Plan, General Plan, and Local Coastal Program, and approve the ordinance rezoning 1.8 acres from community commercial 2 3 to open space park 1-1, 13.8 acres from uh commercial community 3 6 to open space 1-1 and 1.8 acres from commercial office 2 2 to open space 1-1 within the Barrio Logan community planning area.

3:20:15

This concludes the presentation and staff is available for questions.

3:20:20

All right, thank you for the good work to bring this forward in the presentation this afternoon.

3:20:24

Clerk, please proceed with public comment.

3:20:28

Thank you, Council President.

3:20:29

I'll start with those that are here in chambers.

3:20:32

Um it does look like we'll go to a minute and a half on this item.

3:20:36

So allegedly, Audra, if you can please come forward.

3:20:39

After Audra, we have Ernesto Castañeda, if you can please come forward to the yellow reserve seats, then Marco Espinosa.

3:20:47

Um please proceed.

3:20:53

Um, yes, I think that we need to be honest with people as to why you guys are rezoning all of these things and why you're implementing all of these type of um changes, because this comes down from a globalist agenda, you the United Nations and them implementing things like 15 minute cities.

3:21:13

And I think that when you guys don't acknowledge that because they the idea is to control people's movements, where we can go, you call them complete communities.

3:21:23

But there is a control happening of all of our resources, and you guys are giving people again pure water, which is sewer water, because you're acting like we don't have enough water to give people.

3:21:36

And so when you guys are implementing these things and changing this to add parks or whatever, I mean you talk about air quality.

3:21:42

Why would you put that by the freeway if there's pollution that's coming from that?

3:21:46

Is that safe for the children to be in uh inhaling those types of fumes?

3:21:53

Um, and everything you guys do with environmental reviews, it makes everything take a very long time.

3:21:59

And if we really cared about getting people into housing, we would get them into it.

3:22:05

We wouldn't, you know, blame things on the federal government as to why you guys aren't doing your job.

3:22:10

But I think that you need to be honest with people about the United Nations Agenda 21, which you guys can go and educate yourselves on if you're not, but that's what you guys are pushing, and it's very detrimental to the people.

3:22:23

And I think that people need to understand what's really happening.

3:22:26

And you guys are going to be able to do that.

3:22:26

Thank you for that concluding statement, Nexus Ernesto Castanha.

3:22:43

Good afternoon, Council.

3:22:45

My name is Ernesto Castañeda.

3:22:46

I am a field representative with the office of a staff member David Alvarez.

3:22:50

I'm here today on behalf of Assembly Member Avres to express a strong support to the proposed Barrio Logan Community Plan amendment and rezone before you.

3:24:17

Thank you.

3:24:17

Thank you, Marco Espinosa.

3:24:19

After that, we have Julie Corales, if you can please come up to the yellow reserve seats and then Blair Beakman.

3:24:25

Please proceed.

3:24:27

Hello, good afternoon, Marco Espinosa.

3:24:29

Um presentation was very well.

3:24:32

Um I just want to say that I like the update.

3:24:36

Um, and after here, I'm gonna go to the neighborhood and walk by and uh think of what park like items could be uh there um in place of what is now.

3:24:46

Um and then for my non-agenda public comment, um when buildings are getting built, if they could return the sidewalk sooner.

3:24:54

Um that would be nice.

3:24:55

Thank you.

3:24:57

Thank you, Julie Corrales.

3:25:00

Julie, you have time seated to you.

3:25:03

I am not to know, but I think he stepped out.

3:25:05

So I don't I think I only need a minute.

3:25:06

Okay, we'll do the minute and a half.

3:25:08

Please proceed.

3:25:10

Uh I want to thank thank the city for their quick quick response upon discovering the zoning errors in Barrio Logan's community plan.

3:25:17

Barrio Logan, as you all know, is in the top five percent of the most polluted communities in our state, uh, over 90th percentile of airborne cancer risk across the nation.

3:25:26

We've been working since April 22nd, 1970 to bring park space to Logan, beginning with Chicano Park, then Chicano Park at the Bay, also known as the South Chavez Park.

3:25:35

And since 2018, we've been working with the city and Caltrans and EHC and community members to convert the space along Boston Avenue and the five freeway into a state-of-the-art park, um, the kind you see north of the eight.

3:25:47

We're talking water pads and scenarios and and uh DV path.

3:25:52

Um correcting the errors to the zoning today ensures that in perpetuity forever that that Chicano Park will remain a park and a Mecca for Chicanos all across the country.

3:26:04

It ensures that no plot at Chicano Park or Boston Avenue was ever sold for polluting use.

3:26:09

These changes codify the community's vision for our neighborhood forever.

3:26:13

So please vote yes today on this item and protect Barrio Logan for the next seven generations.

3:26:18

Thank you.

3:26:21

Blair Weekman, if you can please come forward.

3:26:27

Hi, Blair Beekman.

3:26:28

Uh, thank you very much for at least allowing a minute 30 public comments.

3:26:32

Definitely better than one minute.

3:26:34

Um thank you for the words of the previous public speaker.

3:26:37

Um, this item was initially approved, adopted by city council in 2021, certified by the coastal commission in uh 2023.

3:26:46

These are a rezoning issues that uh just thank you that how much you're working on it and trying to do good.

3:26:53

I'm interested how the coastal commission process uh involved with this can be a good example for our future environmental concerns and connecting that with Barrio Logan issues in the future.

3:27:05

Um we're trying to address climate action overall.

3:27:07

It could be great ways to better address it and make it a more accessible subject.

3:27:13

And to quickly offer uh in the incredible importance this park can offer ourselves for the future.

3:27:18

Um the tech uh that will be placed in the park, if it has good open public practices and policies and accountability.

3:27:27

Um you if you focus yourselves on those good concepts, it actually lends and works itself towards best practices overall for the future of what we want to be doing.

3:27:37

So good luck with good accountability, tech accountability for for the issues of the park, and uh thanks a lot for this item.

3:27:45

Thank you.

3:27:45

I'll show the five-minute time we're here in council chambers going to those participating remotely.

3:27:49

Currently have seven people in the queue, just as a reminder.

3:27:52

This is on the Barrio Logan amendment.

3:27:54

Janine, if you can please unmute, you'll have a minute and a half Barrio Logan amendment.

3:28:02

Sorry, this is not the item that I was going to speak on.

3:28:05

Thank you.

3:28:08

4223 regarding the Barrio Logan amendment.

3:28:12

4223, please unmute.

3:28:17

I can unmute for you.

3:28:25

I will have to move on.

3:28:27

Amy Casaneda, if you can please unmute.

3:28:33

Hi everyone, can you all hear me?

3:28:34

Yes, please proceed.

3:28:36

Thank you.

3:28:37

Good afternoon, Council members.

3:28:38

My name is Amy Casaneda, and I'm the associate director of policy with the environmental health coalition.

3:28:42

Back in the early 2010 2010s, EHC worked very closely with community members to update the Barrio Logan Community Plan, which is which at the time was one of the oldest community plans in the city.

3:28:52

Through extensive community engagement, we're able to reimagine what a healthy and thriving Barrio Logan could become by increasing green space, establishing a designated truck route, and increasing affordable housing.

3:29:02

And while the plan was put on the ballot for the entire city to vote on, EHC stood by our community members and continue to fight to update the CPU until it's officially uh updated back in 2021.

3:29:13

Today's action will ensure that the zoning aligns with community priorities to increase green spaces and ensure that we protect our community from incoming polluters.

3:29:21

We'd like to take this opportunity to thank city staff for their thorough review, the planning department, our community allies, Julie Corrales, and the Cinos Community Land Trust for being very involved in this process.

3:29:35

This um and and many others who have worked for decades to undo racist land use policy that has impacted our community.

3:29:41

We urge the council to move forward with this action and protect the health and well-being of Barrio Logan residents.

3:29:46

Thank you.

3:29:47

Thank you.

3:29:49

Santanera, if you can please unmute after that is Zoom user.

3:29:53

Santanera.

3:29:55

Yeah, good afternoon.

3:30:00

So um, with the woman in the writing and um we would like for this item to be considered for the steering committee to have access to all decisions when it comes to the city since they are part of the build of the park.

3:30:13

Um, so that's that's my comment.

3:30:15

If you guys could take them for every step you guys take on this item, um, consider them to be a part of it.

3:30:23

Thank you.

3:30:24

Thank you.

3:30:25

Next is Zoom user.

3:30:26

If you can please unmute.

3:30:30

Thanks for taking my call, Hector here.

3:30:32

Hey, the city's been abusing.

3:30:34

I'm like 72 years old.

3:30:36

City's been abusing Barrio Logan since I was born.

3:30:40

You never asked them for nothing, put in all this weird stuff in their communities.

3:30:45

We should just deed all the city land to the Barrio Logan.

3:30:50

Maybe they can get their own mayor on land use.

3:30:53

Barrio Logan mayor determines the land use of city-owned property and get the coastal commission out of it, just blow them off.

3:31:02

That's like white supremacy to the max.

3:31:04

The Coastal Commission is nothing but white supremacy.

3:31:08

And that these guys had Mexican people had enough of it, man.

3:31:12

Give them all city land, let them determine who builds what on it.

3:31:16

Maybe get a mayor.

3:31:19

City can take care of all the sewers and streets, and they determine what goes on in their neighborhoods.

3:31:26

It's the only life's not fair, but uh it'd be cool to have their own mayor.

3:31:31

And uh they definitely can handle their own uh their own business.

3:31:36

Thanks a lot.

3:31:38

Thank you.

3:31:39

Cena Sanchez, if you can please unmute Cena Sanchez.

3:31:44

After that is 8813.

3:31:48

Hello, can you hear me?

3:31:49

Yes, please proceed.

3:31:51

Okay, my name is Donatine Sanchez, and I said I'm the vice chair of the Chicago Park Stare Committee, where the sewers of the park.

3:31:57

This land was never given to us, it was taken through a resistance through sacrifice and through love for our community.

3:32:03

For over 50 years, we have protected this space as a sacred cultural space, and yet today decisions are being made without this about this land without our involvement.

3:32:12

People call this a technical correction, but under National Historic Preservation Act Section 106, any action affecting a site listed on the National Register of Historic Places requires meaningful consultation with cultural stewards, which that would be us.

3:32:25

And that did not happen.

3:32:26

So let's be clear here today.

3:32:28

This is not just a failure of communication, this is a failure of process.

3:32:31

And it rises raises serious concerns about compliance with federal historic preservation law.

3:32:36

Because in Barrio Logan, we know what happens, what process is ignored.

3:32:39

Zoning has been used to place industry next to our homes, pollute our air, displace our families, and sign as our voices.

3:32:45

And today, once again, decisions are going to move forward without the communities who's most impacted.

3:32:50

We're not asking today, we are demanding council for an immediate pause on this action, full transparency, direct consultation with the Chicago Park Steering Committee first and foremost.

3:33:00

Because you cannot claim to protect this park by excluding the people who made it possible.

3:33:04

We are still here, we are still protecting this land, and we will not be erased.

3:33:11

Thank you.

3:33:11

Next is 8813, and then our final speaker is Rika.

3:33:16

Our five-minute timer has concluded.

3:33:17

No additional speakers will be taken.

3:33:19

8813.

3:33:23

It's star six.

3:33:24

There you go.

3:33:26

Okay, just in the nick of time.

3:33:28

All right, so okay.

3:33:30

Okay, San Diego City Council.

3:33:32

This needs to be said clearly.

3:33:35

Give the people of Barrio Logan back their community.

3:33:38

There for decades, families in Barrio Logan have been forced to live in conditions that no other community would tolerate.

3:33:46

Homes placed next to heavy industry, children breathing diesel exhaust from constant truck traffic, freeways, families exposed to toxic emissions from shipyards along uh the port of San Diego.

3:34:00

And this is not by chance.

3:34:01

This is by design.

3:34:03

You allowed incompatible zoning, residential and heavy industrial industrial uh side by side.

3:34:11

You created an environment where profit was prioritized over people, where working class families were expected to absorb the cost with their health.

3:34:19

Then you cut the heart out of the community when you built the San Diego Coronado Bridge and major freeways straight through it.

3:34:28

Homes were destroyed, streets were divided, a neighborhood was fractured, and you called it development.

3:34:34

And when you failed to deliver even basic green space, the people had to take actions themselves.

3:34:40

They occupied land and created Chicano Park.

3:34:43

Not because you gave it to them, but because they refused to be ignored.

3:34:47

That should tell you everything.

3:34:49

This community has been patient, it has been resilient, but it should not have to fight this hard uh just to breathe clean air and live in safe conditions.

3:35:00

And that's talk about carb and environmental injustice.

3:35:08

And that concludes public comment on item 331.

3:35:11

All right.

3:35:12

Thank you, City Clerk.

3:35:13

With that, I'll turn it over to my council colleagues for questions, comments, and entertain a motion.

3:35:18

And we'll start with the council member representing District 8.

3:35:21

Councilmember Moreno.

3:35:22

Thank you, and thank you for the presentation.

3:35:25

Thank you to staff for the work on this item.

3:35:28

The Barrio Logan community is one of the most culturally and and historically significant neighborhoods in the city of San Diego.

3:35:37

Its vibrant murals, rich uh culinary traditions, and long history of community resilience all contribute to the identity that defines the area today.

3:35:47

A key part of the history of resilience is rooted in the effects of systematic redlining and discriminatory zoning practices, which shaped how the land in the neighborhood was used and how the community developed over time.

3:36:01

These long-standing planning challenges ultimately made the community plan an important tool for shaping the future of Barrio Logan.

3:36:09

The Barrio Logan Community Plan was adopted in 1978, and for 43 years, the plan stayed the same.

3:36:18

In 2022, the Barrio Logan Community Plan was finally updated and adopted.

3:36:23

It took a very long time and required significant work and collaboration from the community, the city, and also the Coastal Commission.

3:36:33

The process included extensive reviews and ultimately was approved by the Coastal Commission Commission, which also required the city to go back and address and adjust more than 100 different items.

3:36:46

Because of the long and careful process it took to get this plan approved, it is so concerning and frustrating when errors like this keep occurring.

3:36:56

It's unacceptable that the city has allowed zoning errors like this, like those associated with footnote seven, the city land development code, and now this recent discrepancy to occur.

3:37:08

Taken together, these issues point to a broader pattern of mistakes that should not be happening in decisions that have such a significant impact on communities.

3:37:19

Errors like this are a prime example of why many are so distrustful of government.

3:37:25

While these mistakes were not done on purpose, it sows community mistrust.

3:37:48

This is especially important given the long history of planning challenges and past decisions that have strained trust between community and the city.

3:37:59

What I do appreciate here is that the city didn't ignore the issue.

3:38:03

Instead, staff move quickly to identify the discrepancy and bring forward this amendment.

3:38:09

These corrections ensure that areas intended to be parks and community space, such as the Boston Avenue Corridor and Chicano Park are properly designated and ultimately protected.

3:38:23

Do want to acknowledge city planning staff for engaging with the community and bringing this item to the Barrio Logan Community Planning Group, which is an important step in addressing this issue and keeping the community informed.

3:38:42

They are an important part of our community and have been long stewards of Chicano Park.

3:38:49

With this rezone, will this rezoning one of the questions I have for staff is will this rezoning require approval from the Coastal Commission as well?

3:38:58

And how long will that take?

3:39:00

Yes, Councilmember Moreno, it will require Coastal Commission certification.

3:39:05

We'll be reaching out to Coastal Commission staff to ask that they could uh expedite this.

3:39:12

My hope is that within the next six months, but we need to talk with staff further.

3:39:16

Within the next six months.

3:39:18

Wonderful.

3:39:20

Transparency is critical when mistakes like this occur, and it matters that the city was upfront about what happened and took the time to explain how it would be fixed.

3:39:31

I do appreciate staff's responsiveness, their transparency with the community, and their commitment to ensuring that the zoning and land use designations accurately reflect the vision that was approved by and for the Barrio Logan community.

3:39:47

Now, with that, I'm gonna uh make a motion to approve staff's recommendation.

3:39:52

Thank you.

3:39:54

All right, thank you, Councilmember.

3:39:55

So we have a motion by Councilmember Moreno to move the staff recommendation.

3:40:00

We'll go next to Councilmember Elo Rivera.

3:40:02

Thank you, Council President.

3:40:03

Um, with the questions having been uh asked and answered um that the council member Moreno put forward and knowing that um Barrio uh Chickenal Park um is is protected and this helps advance the Barrio Logan Community Plan.

3:40:17

Um I am happy to second the motion.

3:40:20

Thank you.

3:40:21

All right, thank you, Councilmember.

3:40:22

So we now have a motion by Councilmember Moreno and a second by Councilmember Elo Rivera.

3:40:27

And with that, the city clerk, please call the roll.

3:40:30

I'm sorry, the voting system, please cast your vote.

3:40:40

That passes unanimously, 8 to 0 with council member Campbell absent.

3:40:44

Thank you, Council President.

3:40:45

All right, thank you, City Clerk.

3:40:46

Thank you to staff for that.

3:40:49

All right, with that, clerk, please introduce item S 500.

3:40:56

I apologize.

3:40:56

My script got lost amongst all the sessions.

3:41:00

Item S 500 is the adoption of IHRA definition of anti-semitism.

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If you would like to speak to this item, please be sure to submit your speaker slip now at the front of the room.

3:41:09

If you are seating time, please be sure to submit those speaker slips together.

3:41:13

You will be given time to come in from the overflow room, so don't worry, I will be calling your name two to three times.

3:41:18

If I see you walking in, we'll make sure to give you time for those individuals who are in the yellow reserve seats at the front.

3:41:25

If you could please find a seat uh farther back, I do need those seats available for those that are being called up to ensure with meeting management.

3:41:35

You can even take a seat in the blue reserve seats over there if you don't find a seat.

3:41:40

Thank you, Council President.

3:41:42

All right, thank you, City Clerk.

3:41:43

So before we turn it over to District Three, um, a couple of items.

3:41:49

One I read at the beginning of the uh session uh the disruption policy.

3:41:55

Uh we know we have a lot of folks speaking both for and against uh the item in front of us.

3:42:01

Uh there'll be a lot of passion there.

3:42:03

Please extend a courtity and civility to everybody who speaks, give them a chance to make their comments, whether you agree with them or not.

3:42:11

I mentioned about the thumbs up or thumbs down is a good way to do that.

3:42:15

Um this, of course, applies to not only council chambers but also the committee room and any overflow room that we uh that we have uh on that.

3:42:27

So uh we've done these big meetings, we've done meetings where there's been a lot of passion and even disagreement between two sides, and we can get through this.

3:42:36

We have at least three hours of testimony just who showed up today at City Hall.

3:42:43

Uh, and of course, we do expect folks uh to participate remotely as well.

3:42:48

So we're gonna be here for a while, so let's all play nicely together.

3:42:53

Um, and then to my council colleagues.

3:42:56

Um, over the past few meetings, uh, some folks have been going over the five plus three minutes, and I've been very quietly giving away my time uh to allow them to continue uninterrupted.

3:43:07

Uh I will have my own comments, so unless you get time seated by one of your colleagues, uh, we'll be adhering to the five plus three when it comes to uh council and their deliberation going forward.

3:43:20

Um so with that, um, this item was uh brought forward by Councilmember Whitburn and District Three.

3:43:26

So Council Member Whitburn will give you an opportunity for open opening remarks, and then we'll go to staff for the presentation.

3:43:33

Sir, thank you, Council President.

3:43:35

This is a resolution recognizing the rise of anti-Semitism, affirming the City of San Diego's commitment to combating hate and discrimination, and adopting the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance's working definition of anti-Semitism.

3:43:51

Before I turn it over to Raya Darcy on my staff to provide a presentation on this, I'd like to offer a few acknowledgments.

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I want to thank the San Diego Antisemitism Task Force for meeting with me about the rise in anti-Semitism and the importance of this action to many in the Jewish community.

3:44:07

I want to thank the City of San Diego Human Relations Commission for considering this and forwarding a request to the City Council that we adopt this resolution.

3:44:17

I want to thank Raya Darcy, my deputy chief of staff for all of his work in bringing this forward.

3:44:23

And I want to thank all of you here today or joining us online for taking the time to be a part of today's discussion.

3:44:30

And with those acknowledgements, I'll turn it over to Ryan.

3:44:34

All right, Ryan, you know that you'll please introduce yourself for the record and let us know how much time you need for the presentation.

3:44:40

Uh Ryan Deputy Chief of Stafford.

3:44:44

Can you repeat and turn the mic on?

3:44:46

There we go.

3:44:47

Uh Ryan Darcy, uh, Deputy Chief of Staff for Councilmember Stephen Whitburn.

3:44:50

And we need about 10 minutes.

3:44:52

All right, when you're ready.

3:44:53

Thank you.

3:44:53

All right, good afternoon, Council President, members of the City Council.

3:44:56

Uh thank you for the opportunity to present today.

3:45:00

Um, I'm here on behalf of Councilmember Whitburn regarding item S500, a resolution of the Council of the City of San Diego recognizing the rise of anti-Semitism, affirming the city's commitment to combating hate and discrimination, and adopting the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance's working definition of anti-Semitism.

3:45:20

This issue first came before uh the city through the San Diego Human Relations Commission in May of 2025.

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The Commission voted unanimously to urge the City of San Diego to adopt the IRA working definition of anti-Semitism.

3:45:34

Following that vote, the Commission formally sent a letter to the mayor and city council recommending adoption.

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The chair of the Human Relations Commission at the time, Nicole Murray Ramirez, also spoke before the City Council in December of last year, encouraging the city to take this step.

3:45:53

So what is IRA?

3:45:55

The International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance, or IRA, is an intergovernmental organization dedicated to the Holocaust education, historical research, and remembrance.

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Its work focuses on preserving the historical record of the Holocaust and combating modern anti-Semitism around the world.

3:46:28

The IRA working definition.

3:46:30

In May of 2016, IRA member states adopted what is known as the IRA working definition of anti-Semitism.

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The definition states anti-Semitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred towards Jews.

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It also clarifies that anti-Semitism can manifest through rhetoric or physical acts directed at Jewish individuals, Jewish institutions, or Jewish community spaces.

3:46:55

Importantly, the definition is a non-legally binding and is intended primarily as an educational and analytical tool to help institutions better recognize anti-Semitism.

3:47:09

This next slide key points.

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The resolution explicitly states that nothing in it is intended to limit or infringe upon the rights protected by the United States Constitution or that of the California Constitution, including the freedom of speech and expression.

3:47:38

Additionally, the IRA definition itself clearly states that criticism of Israel, similar to that leveled against any other country, cannot be regarded as anti-Semitic.

3:47:51

This definition is simply a tool to help identify anti-Semitism when it occurs.

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It does not criminalize speech or political viewpoints.

3:48:03

Why this matters?

3:48:05

Unfortunately, anti-Semitism continues to be a persistent and growing problem in the United States and around the world.

3:48:13

Jewish individuals and Jewish institutions experience disproportionately high levels of hate incidents compared to any other or many other groups.

3:48:22

In recent years, we have seen an increase in anti-Semitic rhetoric, threats, harassment, vandalism, targeting synagogues and Jewish community institutions, and violence directed at Jewish individuals.

3:48:35

These incidents do not only harm the Jewish community, they threaten public safety, civil rights, and the social cohesion of our communities.

3:48:47

The data.

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Widespread support.

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More than 1,300 entities have adopted it, including governments, educational institutions, and civil society organizations.

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Forty-seven countries have adopted this definition.

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Hundreds of non-governmental organizations, universities, and local governments have also adopted it.

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Even diverse international organizations have supported its adoption as a tool to recognize and combat anti-Semitism.

3:50:01

Cities, major U.S.

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cities have adopted the IRA working definition.

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These include cities such as Chicago, which passed this unanimously in January, Los Angeles, which was passed this unanimously, Washington, D.C., El Paso, Las Vegas, and here locally in San Diego County, other cities have also taken this step.

3:50:20

The City of Alcajon adopted the IRA definition unanimously in a five to zero vote.

3:50:25

The city of Chula Vista also adopted the IRA definition in a 5 0 vote on May 13th, 2025.

3:50:33

San Diego would be joining other cities in our own region that are already using this definition as a tool to recognize and address anti-Semitism.

3:50:44

The proposed action before you today is to adopt a resolution of the Council of the City of San Diego, recognizing the rise of anti-Semitism, affirming the city's commitment to combating hate and discrimination, and adopting the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance's working definition of anti-Semitism.

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This action will provide a clear framework to recognize anti-Semitism, support education and awareness, and affirm the city's commitment to combating hate and stand in solidarity with our Jewish community.

3:51:14

And with that, I am happy to take any questions from the council.

3:51:18

Thank you.

3:51:19

Okay, uh excuse me.

3:51:21

Thank you, Councilmember Whitburn for introducing this item, Mr.

3:51:25

Darcy, for your work and the presentation.

3:51:29

We are now going to move to public comment.

3:51:32

And if you ever want to see a ballet of how to manage public comment, you're gonna see it with our city clerk.

3:51:40

So have a lot of patience with her as she tries to figure out when you've seated time and shared time when she calls your name or even mispronounces your name occasionally.

3:51:52

Uh she is going to do a fabulous job, have patience and work with her.

3:51:56

And then as a third uh and final reminder, uh, again, civility is really the key for this conversation.

3:52:03

We want to hear from both sides, whatever your opinion is.

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Please respect those who may have a different opinion from you.

3:52:11

Uh we want to keep this a civil conversation.

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Uh and uh let's get started.

3:52:16

So, with that, clerk, please proceed with public comment.

3:52:19

Thank you, Council President, and thank you for the introduction.

3:52:21

I hope I serve you all well today.

3:52:23

I will just note that we do have over three hours of public comment here in Council Chambers as well as in the queue.

3:52:29

We have over 180 speakers here, and currently 27 speakers in the queue with their hands raised.

3:52:36

I will also note that there are several people that were not able to submit their speaker slip with whoever they were seating time to.

3:52:43

When I call somebody that's seating time, I will ask those that are seating time to raise their hand.

3:52:47

If you don't hear your name called and you wanted to raise to cede your time to that speaker, please be sure to raise your hand.

3:52:53

I am trying to do my best to make sure that I match them all up in order for you to um be heard and give that person their time allocation.

3:53:02

Thank you for all this.

3:53:03

Nicole Marie Ramirez, if you can please come up.

3:53:05

You have time seated to you by Tutie Thomas, if you can please raise your hand.

3:53:09

Tooty, thank you.

3:53:10

Edwin Lohr.

3:53:12

Thank you.

3:53:13

Um Abdi Pata Malim, please raise your hand.

3:53:17

Thank you.

3:53:17

And Julia Lando.

3:53:19

Julie Lando, thank you so much.

3:53:21

You're all ceding your time to Nicole.

3:53:22

You'll have five minutes, please proceed.

3:53:26

Good afternoon, Wenest Diaz.

3:53:28

On March 19th, 2025, I made a motion that the Human Relations Commission urge the mayor and the City Council to officially join the over 43 countries, 37 states, and over 100 cities, now including Chicago, Los Angeles, and Chile Vista and Alcajome to adopt the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance definition of anti-Semitism.

3:53:52

This motion was unanimously passed by the Human Relations Commission.

3:53:57

We then spent many months before we sent our recommendation to the mayor and the council, having dialogue with those in support of the IHRA definition and those in opposition, including public input, as well as working closely with our executive director, Reverend Dr.

3:54:16

Gerald Brown.

3:54:17

We know that each of you on this council have been flooded with support and opposition.

3:54:22

The Human Relations Commission has done its part and with all due diligence.

3:54:27

On this item, now I most respectfully ask each of you to do yours.

3:54:32

For over 60 years, I have come before this council and spoke out for social justice, spoke out against hate crimes and hate towards the black, Asian Pacific Islander community, Muslim and Jewish, and my Latino and LGBT communities.

3:54:49

But I say to you that never have I witnessed the growing hate and attacks these last decades on the Jewish community.

3:55:00

Such hate not seen since the Holocaust.

3:55:02

Recent Federal statistics now show that the Jewish community suffers ten times more hate crimes than any other community in our nation.

3:55:13

Think about it.

3:55:18

And San Diego Jewish houses of worship, student centers, rabbis, neighborhoods, community centers are being attacked and subject to hate.

3:55:28

In closing, I stand before you as other Christians who are able to wear this cross around our necks openly, freely, and without incident.

3:55:41

I so wish each of you would have been with me and looked into the faces of Jewish youth and students as I have who told me they were now afraid to wear their stars of David because of the hate they have been subjected to.

3:55:57

I will never ever forget a 17-year-old Jewish student named Josh, who told me his grandmother, a survivor of the Holocaust, so afraid for the safety of her grandson, she begged him not to wear the Star of David.

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She had given him long ago in public and even urged him to now mispronounce his last name differently when he was in public.

3:56:24

She was so afraid and worried for him.

3:56:27

Indeed, what kind of nation have we become?

3:56:30

Today, by voting yes, you will be sending a message to Josh, his grandmother, and the Jewish community.

3:56:38

Our city sees them, hears them, and we stand against the rising of hate crimes against the Jewish people.

3:56:46

Thank you.

3:57:03

So now we have three hours and one more minute.

3:57:05

That will be the last time we'll have applause.

3:57:09

No, the side should have applauds too.

3:57:12

Not equitable.

3:57:14

You've been warned.

3:57:15

Nicole, you were the chair of the HRC, and that's why I had you come speak first.

3:57:21

Please do not engage in applause.

3:57:23

Thumbs up, it's very powerful.

3:57:25

We need to get through three hours of testimony.

3:57:30

Next is, I'm gonna be calling people up to the front row.

3:57:33

Alberto Mansur, Laura's, Laura Stone, Shay Ellis, Leslie, Zemmer, Romy, Romy, Zemmer, and Jenna Janet Klein.

3:57:43

If you can please all come up to the yellow reserve seats.

3:57:46

Alberto, you have time seated to you by Rose Hom.

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Rose, if you can please raise your hand.

3:57:52

Thank you.

3:57:52

You'll have two minutes.

3:57:53

Alberto, please come up to the microphone.

3:58:03

Good afternoon.

3:58:04

Thank you for holding this space for us.

3:58:08

People in this room will say that the IRA definition goes against the First Amendment.

3:58:13

But does it?

3:58:14

Of course not.

3:58:16

Labeling something doesn't ban it.

3:58:19

It gives it a name.

3:58:21

And that main name may make some people uncomfortable, but it doesn't ban it.

3:58:26

Hate speech, anti-semit anti-Semitic speech is still protected speech.

3:58:32

If this council adopts the IRA definition, it won't stop anyone from it won't stop anyone from calling Jews baby killers.

3:58:46

It won't stop anyone from saying that we control the banks and the media.

3:58:54

What it will do is label what you're doing.

3:58:57

It will give it a name.

3:58:58

It will hold a mirror to your face.

3:59:01

And it'll show you, and it will tell you that label will be that you are an anti-Semit.

3:59:08

So criticize us all you want, slander us all you want, hate us all you want.

3:59:14

Your hate speech will still be protected speech.

3:59:17

But don't hide from hide from the truth in what you are.

3:59:20

I urge this council council to adopt the resolution and let people look in that mirror.

3:59:30

Thank you.

3:59:32

Laura Stone.

3:59:33

You have time ceded to you by um Shira Schaefer.

3:59:38

Shera, please raise your hand.

3:59:39

Thank you.

3:59:40

You'll have two minutes, please proceed.

3:59:42

Hi, hello.

3:59:42

My name is Laura Stone from District One.

3:59:45

Thank you, Councilman Whip Whitburn, for sponsoring today's very important IRH IHRA vote.

3:59:53

Jewish Voice for Peace, JVP is here today, but I want to stress that they do not represent the views of the broader Jewish community.

4:00:01

On the contrary, many of us feel that they appropriate the Jewish voice to advocate a political agenda that most Jewish organizations and community members reject entirely.

4:00:12

You've all received an extensive legally backed dossier on JVP, but in case you haven't had a chance to read the facts about them, it's important for the council to be aware of JVP's record.

4:00:24

The organization has expressed support for and solidarity with groups connected to the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, which is designated as a terrorist organization by the United States.

4:00:37

JVP also regularly partners with the Palestinian youth movement, an organization whose public messaging has included praise for terrorist groups such as Palestinian Islamic Jihad.

4:00:49

JVP supported the Great March of Return demonstrations, which were coordinated by leadership committee that included representatives from several organizations designated by the U.S.

4:01:00

as terrorist groups.

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And closer to home, JVP members have repeatedly harassed members, students on San Diego campuses and Jewish community members at various Jewish events.

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So when JVP speaks today, I urge the council to consider what their true agenda is and to make a note that they do not represent the wider Jewish community despite their deceiving name.

4:01:26

Thank you for your time.

4:01:29

Thank you.

4:01:30

Next we have Shay Ellis.

4:01:33

Shay Ellis, you have people seating your time.

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Please raise your hand.

4:01:37

Dan Bass.

4:01:40

Anita Schmickhaus quiz.

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Thank you.

4:01:46

Isaac.

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And Gillian Argof Tresler.

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Thank you.

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You'll have five minutes, please proceed.

4:01:54

Good afternoon, City Council members.

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Thank you to Councilmember Whitburn for bringing this item forward.

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My name is Shay Ellis, and I am the regional coordinator for ADL, the anti-defamation league of San Diego.

4:02:07

I am also a resident of District One.

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I am here today in support of item 500, and we urge the council to vote yes on adopting the IRA definition.

4:02:17

Across the country, ADL has recorded skyrocketing levels of anti-Semitic incidents since 10-7, including a 286% increase in San Diego since 2022.

4:02:30

This demands action.

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And the IRA definition is a tool that can help our community address this moment.

4:02:36

Anti-Semitism doesn't disappear, it evolves.

4:02:40

Over the years, it has targeted Jews under the guise of being anti-communist, anti-globalist, or the villains in a number of different movements.

4:02:49

Today, that language has evolved to focus on anti-Zionism.

4:02:53

We hear the stories of San Diego college students who are ostracized for their Jewish identity but told it's only because they're Zionists.

4:03:02

The K-12 students who are bullied for being quote unquote baby killers, and the employees of San Diego businesses and organizations who have to pursue legal action to rectify the anti-Semitic harassment and discrimination they encounter.

4:03:16

We cannot afford to let our city become a place where Jews are only treated with dignity and respect if they denounce their support for the right of Israel to exist, which is something that over 90% of Americans support.

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And it does exist.

4:03:33

Even though the current language that targets Jews claims to be only anti-Zionism, it leads to the same outcomes that anti-Semitism always has: harassment, discrimination, violence, and worse.

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The IRA definition is a crucial tool that helps governments, universities, NGOs, and other and other groups understand all of the complex elements of anti-Semitism that target people for different aspects of Jewish identity.

4:04:01

We urge you to vote yes on the resolution and have San Diego join cities like Los Angeles, Chicago, and Miami in creating a city government that stands for the safety of the Jewish community in this moment.

4:04:14

Thank you.

4:04:16

Thank you.

4:04:16

Next is Leslie Zemmer.

4:04:18

After Lesemer, we have Romy Zemmer, then Jordan Marks, then Janet Klein.

4:04:25

Dear City Council members, thank you so much.

4:04:28

City Councilman Whitburn.

4:04:30

My name is Leslie Zemmer.

4:04:32

I live in District 1.

4:04:33

I'm asking you to adopt IRA in an attempt to distract from IRA, anti-Semites advocate for what is called the Jerusalem Declaration on Anti-Semitism.

4:04:42

The Jerusalem Declaration was written by a self-selected group of scholars acting in their personal capacity.

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The authors and signatories represent their own academic perspectives, not the views of Jewish communities, voters, or institutions that are accountable to the public.

4:05:00

The authors of the Jerusalem Declaration describe its purpose to contribute to academic discussion.

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And then unlike IRA, it has zero adoption by governments, schools, or other public institutions.

4:05:10

By contrast, the IRA working definition of anti-Semitism has been adopted by national governments, states, cities, universities, and other public institutions around the world.

4:05:19

IRA has been endorsed by all Jewish communal organizations as the IRA definition functions is a widely adopted public policy framework.

4:05:28

Those who were asked to be a good question.

4:05:29

Thank you for that concluding remark.

4:05:31

Romy, vote yes.

4:05:35

Good afternoon.

4:05:37

My name is Romy Zemmer.

4:05:38

I am 17 years old, and this is my first council meeting.

4:05:42

I'm missing school today because this moment matters.

4:05:44

In just one week, synagogues around the world were attacked.

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A synagogue in Michigan was set on fire with 140 preschoolers inside.

4:05:52

In Canada, synagogues were hit by gunfire.

4:05:56

In the Netherlands, men were arrested for an air sin attack.

4:06:00

In Belgium, a synagogue was bombed.

4:06:02

Some people say anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism.

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But if that were true, why are American Jews in our synagogues under attack?

4:06:11

Zionism means the Jewish people have the right to self-determination in our ancestral homeland.

4:06:17

I'm a proud Zionist.

4:06:19

You can disagree with me.

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That is your right in America.

4:06:22

But you do not have the right to harass, threaten, or intimidate me for being a Zionist.

4:06:27

I want to grow up in San Diego where Jewish kids don't have to be afraid to display their Jewishness or Zionism.

4:06:33

Today, you have the power to help make that future real.

4:06:36

Please vote yes for IRA.

4:06:37

Thank you.

4:06:38

Our next speaker is Jordan Marks.

4:06:40

Please come up to the podium.

4:06:41

After that, we have Janet Klein, Nicole Bernstein, Andrew Beth Damski, and Kantor Cornet, as well as Liza Tucker Tacker.

4:06:51

If you can all please come up to the yellow reserve seats.

4:06:53

Please proceed.

4:06:54

I apologize in advance.

4:06:55

I got LASIK, so I'm having to read a little harder today, so is it okay, Madam Clerk?

4:07:00

President Lakava, members of the San Diego City Council.

4:07:03

My name is Jordan Marks.

4:07:04

I serve as your San Diego County Assessor Recorder County Clerk.

4:07:06

But I'm here in today's capacity as a San Diego City resident, a parent, and a proud member of the Jewish community.

4:07:12

I strongly ask for your support of item S500, the adoption of the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance definition of anti-Semitism.

4:07:19

I want to thank the San Diego Human Relations Commission and Chair Nicole Murray Mirez for this unanimous support in moving this forward to City Council, and especially uh Councilman Stephen Whitburn for your leadership bringing this item forward today.

4:07:31

Across the region, we've already seen cities like Chula Vista and El Cajon pass this definition because too often acts of hate, when we see them happen, we see elected officials post their thoughts and prayers.

4:07:44

But in San Yo County, we've experienced real consequences, violence, like in the Power Synagogue shooting, the SDSU synagogue attack, hateful anti-Semitic flyers in our neighborhoods and swatsukas, defacing our community spaces.

4:07:56

As a parent, I can tell you, Jewish families are living this reality every day.

4:08:00

We drop off our children at schools, community centers behind gates, arm guards, and they are targeting the project.

4:08:05

Thank you for that concluding comment.

4:08:07

Janet Klein.

4:08:08

Thank you for your action today.

4:08:09

Nick Janet Klein, please come up to the microphone.

4:08:13

Who do you want to cede it to?

4:08:18

Well, I'm back again.

4:08:20

And someone will come up and get your name.

4:08:22

But uh look as I can tell you, as a parent and a Jewish parent, it's not fun to have to have armed guards standing there with your children, be wanted.

4:08:31

I've been at community events with many of you council members here, where it's nice to walk our children in spaces where they're free to be who they are and not attacked for being Jewish or for being a person that's Asian, Latino, or African-American.

4:08:43

We all stand together.

4:08:45

This is not acceptable.

4:08:46

This resolution is not symbolic.

4:08:47

It shows that you stand in solidarity against hate.

4:08:50

It's a necessary step to equip our city, our law enforcement, and community with a clear understanding of anti-Semitism so we can identify it, confront it, and stop it.

4:08:58

This is a moment for action, not just words.

4:09:00

Thank you for voting yes on today's item and for standing with the Jewish community.

4:09:04

I appreciate each and every one of you.

4:09:05

Thank you.

4:09:07

To confirm, were you Janet Klein?

4:09:11

I was like, You're Janet Klein, though.

4:09:13

Thank you.

4:09:13

Next is Nicole Bernstein.

4:09:16

Nicole, you have time seated to you by Jan Savron Wolfort.

4:09:19

If you can please raise your hand, you'll have two minutes, please proceed.

4:09:26

Anikukach Mitsay Zekahala Bachelakhaim Bakita.

4:09:30

Bunny Mafti Khanazo.

4:09:33

The translation.

4:09:35

I am so sorry that that happened to your daughter in class, and I promise to help.

4:09:40

That's what I told the parents of a ninth grade girl who's been bullied at school multiple times simply for being Jewish.

4:09:48

My name is Nicole Bernstein, and I'm a San Diego resident, the daughter of Israeli immigrants, the first person in my entire family to be born in the United States of America, and co-founder of Pure K-12.

4:10:02

We help Jewish parents protect their kids' civil rights in our schools.

4:10:07

That call came to me last week while I was out running errands.

4:10:12

I stepped into the corner of a store and continued the conversation in Hebrew.

4:10:18

Within minutes, multiple people walked by and glared at me with open hostility.

4:10:27

One woman even circled back twice, just to make sure I felt it.

4:10:33

That should not be tolerated.

4:10:38

I was not disruptive.

4:10:40

I was simply speaking in my mother's tongue, Hebrew.

4:10:44

Just one week earlier in San Jose, California, two Israelis speaking Hebrew outside of a restaurant were violently attacked simply for speaking Hebrew in public.

4:10:57

That should not be tolerated.

4:11:01

From classrooms to restaurants to grocery stores, Jews are being targeted simply for daring to exist in public.

4:11:11

That should not be tolerated.

4:11:14

Every person and every language has the right to exist.

4:11:18

Today, in America's finest city, you have an opportunity to send a clear message with your vote.

4:11:24

Hatred of someone because of their religion, skin color, sexual orientation, national nation of origin.

4:11:30

Should not be tolerated sentence.

4:11:32

Please vote yes.

4:11:33

Nicole Bernstein.

4:11:35

Oh, is that you?

4:11:36

Sorry.

4:11:37

I'm happy to go again.

4:11:38

I'm just getting started, sorry.

4:11:40

Andrea Peth Damski.

4:11:42

After Andrea, we have Cantor Cornett and Liza Tacker, as well as Dr.

4:11:48

Joshua Fetter, if you can please come up to the yellow reserve seats.

4:11:51

Please proceed.

4:11:52

Good afternoon.

4:11:53

My name is Andrea Beth Damski.

4:11:55

I am I am a commissioner with the California Commission on the State of Hate, speaking on my own behalf as a member of the Jewish community who has been doxxed and harassed for assumptions about my support of Israel.

4:12:07

We live in a time when Jew haters drive their trucks through synagogue doors armed with explosives, when Jew haters light Jews on fire with Molotov cocktails, when Jews speaking Hebrew are beaten in a restaurant in broad daylight and no one comes to their aid, when Jews are murdered outside a Jewish museum.

4:12:23

These acts target Jews, not a state nor its military.

4:12:27

Jews are hunted domestically for being Jews and for our assumed connection to Israel.

4:12:32

That tens of millions of Christians who do support Israel are not similarly attacked, clarifies that these acts of hate and violence against Jews are anti-Semitism.

4:12:42

We need the strongest definition of anti-Semitism possible, and this resolution meets that need.

4:12:48

Thank you to the council members and staff who brought this forward, and I urge you all to vote yes.

4:12:53

Thank you.

4:12:54

Cantor.

4:13:00

Thank you.

4:13:01

Uh Council members, my name is Cantor Leary Cornett.

4:13:04

For those of you who do not know the difference between a cantor and a rabbi, rabbis think they can sing.

4:13:11

I'm actually here today to talk to you about the IHRA definition.

4:13:18

When I was in college, the first thing that I learned from philosophy professor.

4:13:24

Excuse me, I'm sorry.

4:13:26

Um, is define your terms.

4:13:30

Why is that important?

4:13:31

You cannot have an intelligent conversation with somebody if you are not speaking with the correct terms and both are shared.

4:13:40

It is imperative for you to not play whack-a-mole and actually have a definition that you can use to be able to pattern your ideas and importance on your department heads as to what they need to know.

4:13:57

Thank you, Councilman Woodburn for presenting this.

4:14:00

I appreciate it.

4:14:01

Please vote yes on IHRA.

4:14:04

Liza Tacker.

4:14:08

Hello, Council members, and thank you, Councilmember Whippard, for sponsoring the IRA vote today.

4:14:13

My name is Liza Thatcher.

4:14:16

100 cities and municipalities in the U.S.

4:14:19

have adopted the IRA definition because it is constitutional and does not infringe on one's right to free speech.

4:14:27

But San Diego is not on the list.

4:14:30

Today is the day.

4:14:32

San Diego being the sister city of Sharnegev should be added to this list as well.

4:14:37

Beverly Hills, Il Cajon, LA, Chula Vista, Miami, Miami Beach, Coral Gable, Doral, Sunny Isles Beach, Palm Beach Gardens, West Palm Beach, Hylia Gardens, Parkland, North Miami, Aventura, Ball Harbor, Surfside, Juneau Beach, Golden Beach, Bay Harbor Islands, North Bay Village, North Palm Beach, Pinecrest, Key Biscayne, Jupiter, Jupiter and Till Colony, Forest Park, Lincoln Wood, Highland Park, Gary, Bellevue, Tacoma, Kansas City, Seattle.

4:15:10

Thank you for that concluding remark.

4:15:12

Dr.

4:15:12

Joshua Fetter.

4:15:18

Thank you.

4:15:19

I'm Dr.

4:15:20

Josh Fader.

4:15:21

I teach at UCSD School of Medicine and also at Anaja National University, Palestinian Child Institute in Nobles.

4:15:29

My family in Mielich, Poland, was burned alive in their synagogue in a Nazi demonstration to show that the world would not help Jews.

4:15:37

Here in America at age six, I took a brick at close range to my head because I killed Jesus.

4:15:43

I became a Navy doctor, served through the first Gulf War, and now I lead the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry and trauma care nationally and globally, helping all children impacted by conflict and hate.

4:15:58

Last September I spoke at the UN to move that fragile ceasefire forward.

4:16:04

My life is about protecting children.

4:16:06

Every child deserves safety and peace.

4:16:10

That includes Jewish children.

4:16:13

This IRA resolution will help.

4:16:16

Thank you.

4:16:18

Rabbi Scott Meltzer.

4:16:20

Rabbi, you have time seated by Jacob Shore.

4:16:23

If you can please raise your hand and by Nina Shore, if you can please raise your hand.

4:16:27

You'll have three minutes.

4:16:29

Please proceed.

4:16:31

Thank you.

4:16:32

Thank you, Council Member Whitburn for bringing this resolution.

4:16:35

Thank you to your staff for an outstanding presentation.

4:16:38

Thank you to the entire council.

4:16:40

My name is Scott Meltzer.

4:16:41

I am the rabbi of Or Shalom Synagogue, and I teach in the Department for the Study of Religion at San Diego State.

4:16:48

I would like to publicly acknowledge and thank President Adela Del Torre for her national leadership on creating safe space for Jewish students in the context of American universities, something that tragically is not common around the country.

4:17:02

I also apologize if I look a bit disheveled and tired.

4:17:06

I came home very late last night from a conference out of town that I was attending.

4:17:10

I can't tell you where that conference is, because the new norm in Jewish conferences is please don't post anything geographically identifiable until after the conference for fear of anti-Semitism, heckling, harassment, and violence.

4:17:25

I've been to two conferences this year, and that's been a policy for both of them.

4:17:29

Again, the new norm in the Jewish community.

4:17:32

You want to talk about challenges to free speech.

4:17:36

I have congregants who are afraid to come into our synagogue.

4:17:40

They don't come for services, they don't come for social events, they don't come for classes because they are afraid of the anti-Semitism in this America's findest city.

4:17:50

And you have the opportunity today to say to them, to all Jews in the city, and to everybody in the city that we will not abide these unprecedented levels of anti-Semitism.

4:18:02

Some will argue that anti-Israel can never be anti-Semitic.

4:18:06

They are wrong.

4:18:08

Anti-Israel rhetoric is sometimes a discourse of criticism, and sometimes it crosses a line that is clearly anti-Semitic.

4:18:16

In the past months, my synagogue has been vandalized five times.

4:18:21

Vandalism is a crime.

4:18:24

When my synagogue is targeted and vandalized with anti-Israel hate, that is anti-Semitic.

4:18:32

When somebody drives a car into a place of worship, doing damage, firing a gun, that is a crime.

4:18:39

When they are angry at Israel and do it in a synagogue, that is anti-Semitic.

4:18:45

Any argument to the contrary is wrong.

4:18:50

Thank you very much.

4:18:53

Bernard S., if you can please come up to the podium, and if I can have the following individuals, please come up to the front row.

4:18:59

Shelley DeLeon, Stacey Bresler, Reinstein, Rinstein, Wendy Batterson, Kayla Globerson.

4:19:09

Amy Weisbaum, Adam Maslia, if you can all please come up to the front row.

4:19:16

And Bernard, you can come up to the microphone.

4:19:23

Thank you, Council.

4:19:25

My name is Bernard Spriggs.

4:19:27

I'm a native San Diego.

4:19:29

I live in District One.

4:19:31

Thank you for bringing this up.

4:19:33

I'm going to speak on the behalf of the Gentile population.

4:19:38

I am not Jewish, but I stand with the Jews as a Gentile.

4:19:45

And the fact that we're even happening to have this as a vote is probably the most concerning thing.

4:19:52

But I personally, as you each one personally have to do, be courageous, take a stand, stand up for people's rights, speak up for those people who have more crime against them than any other group.

4:20:00

Be courageous, take a stand, stand up for people's rights, speak up for those people who have more crime against them than any other group.

4:20:06

Please support this adoption and let this just be the beginning of a change within us to be able to bring shalom to our community.

4:20:15

Thank you.

4:20:17

Shelley.

4:20:22

Good afternoon, Council members.

4:20:23

Good to see you again and thank you so much to Councilmember Whitburn.

4:20:28

I'm in District 5 in Rancho Peñasquitos and a member of Stand With Us.

4:20:34

Thank you for your time today, and especially I want to urge you to vote yes on this measure.

4:20:42

I want to note that members of CARE, the Council on American Islamic Relations are present today.

4:20:49

And I believe it's important for the Council to be aware of the backgrounds and statements connected to organizations participating in public discussions.

4:21:00

For example, Suhe Webb, a chair or a care uh speaker and collaborator, has been quoted describing homosexuality as quote evil inclination.

4:21:15

Additionally, Nora Thalash, CARES Director of Government Affairs, has been recorded making deeply offensive remarks, including statements as that's a concluding statement.

4:21:28

Yes.

4:21:29

Stacey Bressler.

4:21:35

First one to get wrong.

4:21:38

Good afternoon, Council members.

4:21:40

My name is Stacy Brussel Reinstein, and I'm a resident of District 6.

4:21:44

I politely urge the council members to support the IRA resolution today.

4:21:48

The Jewish community has been the target of an exponential rise in hate incidents over the last 10 years with a 286% rise here in San Diego since 2022.

4:21:58

For the past year, someone has been dropping off small slips of paper in the early morning near my local middle school and the Chabad Center of University City.

4:22:07

This is seven-tenths of a mile from my home.

4:22:09

On these papers are written sayings such as the chosen people were chosen by Hitler and thank Hitler with the heart and a swastika.

4:22:17

And here's the neighbor, a neighbor reported this incident to the police a year ago, but somehow it fell through the cracks.

4:22:27

It is my understanding that it is now being taken seriously by Councilmember Kent Lee's office as well as law enforcement.

4:22:33

And new incidents are being reported through the proper channels.

4:22:36

It is distressing and deeply troubling that an individual who is filled with hatred and anti-Semitic.

4:22:42

Thank you for considering.

4:22:43

Wendy Batterson.

4:22:44

Wendy, you have time ceded to you by Beth.

4:22:47

Beth by Rita Heller.

4:22:49

Reader Heller.

4:22:50

No, I have Beth.

4:22:52

Do you have two minutes?

4:22:53

Please proceed.

4:22:54

Okay.

4:22:55

Hi, Council.

4:22:56

Thank you for having me.

4:22:57

My apologies.

4:22:58

What other name?

4:23:00

I will look for it.

4:23:01

Please proceed.

4:23:02

Hi, Council members.

4:23:04

Thank you for putting this forward, Steve Whitburn.

4:23:06

Thank you for all your work, Ryan Darcy.

4:23:08

And thank you to my community.

4:23:10

I'm so proud of you today.

4:23:15

My name is Wendy Batterson, and I have been a resident of San Diego for over 17 years.

4:23:21

I am here today to urge you to vote yes on San Diego adopting the IRH or a IHRA definition of anti-Semitism.

4:23:30

This definition provides a clear framework to identify anti-Semitic harassment, threats, or attacks on Jewish people's rights to exist freely and live safely.

4:23:42

I'm speaking as the granddaughter of Jewish immigrants who fed fled anti-Semitism and violence in Turkey during World War One, believing they would finally be safe in the United States.

4:23:54

Yet just a generation later, anti-Semitism is rising again, even here in America's finest city.

4:24:01

I am I have personally experienced a bomb scare, threatening hate speech, and witnessed numerous targeted attacks on our Jewish spaces and symbols.

4:24:11

Today, when I attend Jewish community events in San Diego, they require high-level security measures because hate rhetoric too often leads to violence.

4:24:21

Officials and community leaders often say they are horrified after Semitic anti-Semitic attacks, but being horrified after a tragedy is not enough.

4:24:37

So it should not be conf controversial to say that San Diego's Jewish residents deserve the same protection from incitement and harassment that every other marginalized community expects and fights for.

4:24:53

San Diego is doing meaningful justice work for many communities.

4:25:00

I have stood on the front lines together with many of you in this room on both sides of this issue, but I have stood with you for against the Muslim ban.

4:25:09

I have stood with you against supporting immigrants' rights, fighting against family separation.

4:25:18

I can go on and on.

4:25:22

But today we are here for the IHRA, and the Jewish community must not be left behind.

4:25:28

We need effective safeguards and hate from hate and harm.

4:25:32

Please vote yes on the IHRA.

4:25:36

Thank you, Kayla.

4:25:38

Kayla, you have time ceded to you by um Janice Cassel.

4:25:43

Thank you so much.

4:25:43

You'll have two minutes, please proceed.

4:25:45

Good afternoon, Council members.

4:25:46

My name is Kayla Globerson, a resident of District 1, and I'm speaking today as an interim associate director with Jewish National Fund USA here in San Diego, a non-religious and apolitical organization, I must emphasize.

4:26:01

I urge you to vote yes on adopting IRA definition of anti-Semitism.

4:26:05

You may hear opponents wrongly claim that IRA threatens free speech, as we've heard so much.

4:26:10

That argument is just simply wrong.

4:26:13

That definition does not ban free speech.

4:26:15

It is a non-binding educational tool used around the world to help institutions recognize when criticism crosses the line into anti-Semitism.

4:26:25

Criticism of any government, including Israel, is not considered anti-Semitic under IRA.

4:26:31

But denying the Jewish people the same right to self-determination afforded to others or holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of a foreign government is anti-Semitic.

4:26:43

IRA helps clarify that distinction.

4:26:45

With anti-Semitism on the rise nationally and locally, clarity absolutely matters.

4:26:51

Voting yes today affirms that San Diego recognizes anti-Semitism and stands against it.

4:26:57

Thank you so much for your time today.

4:27:00

Amy Weisbaum.

4:27:06

Good afternoon, Council members.

4:27:08

My name is Amy Weisbaum, and I live in District 3.

4:27:10

Councilmember Whitburn, thank you so much for sponsoring today's IRA vote.

4:27:15

The opposition is manipulating us with claims that even the IRA authors denounce.

4:27:19

Eight scholars and experts on anti-Semitism drafted the IRA resolution and agreed by consensus by consensus, meaning all authors agreed and voted yes on it.

4:27:28

Later, one author of the eight expressed concerns that it can be misused.

4:27:34

He never criticized the existence of IRA and never rescinded his vote.

4:27:38

What is even more ridiculous is that the opposition wants to tell us, Jews, which declaration should define hate against us, suggesting we use the Jerusalem Declaration of Anti-Semitism.

4:27:49

Ninety-five percent of worldwide Jewish organizations agree on the IRA definition.

4:27:54

We don't need the people who harass us to tell us which definition to use.

4:27:59

Please adopt IRA, stand by the facts and the definition of anti-Semitism that the majority of the world's Jews stand by.

4:28:06

Thank you.

4:28:07

Thank you.

4:28:08

Thank you.

4:28:08

Adam Masli, if you can please come up to the podium, and if I can ask the following individuals to please come up to the yellow reserve seats.

4:28:14

If you've already spoken, please go back to your seats where you were originally.

4:28:31

Good afternoon, Council members.

4:28:32

My name is Adam Masley.

4:28:33

I'm the director of the Finest Community Coalition, a coalition of 47 local San Diego Jewish organizations working together to confront anti-Semitism.

4:28:42

Our members include synagogues, community organizations, educational institutions, advocacy groups, and service organizations that collectively represent the broad spectrum of San Diego's organized Jewish community.

4:28:54

As a coalition, we ourselves adhere to the IRA definition of anti-Semitism as the framework we use when evaluating and responding to incidents affecting our community.

4:29:03

We use this definition because it is the most widely recognized and practical definition of anti-Semitism in use today.

4:29:09

Jewish communities are diverse and debate is a cherished part of Jewish tradition.

4:29:13

You may hear from some fringe Jewish voices who oppose this definition.

4:29:17

While they are entitled to their views, it is important to understand that those views do not reflect the consensus of San Diego's organized Jewish community.

4:29:26

Our unified coalition of 47 organizations does.

4:29:29

We respectfully urge the council to listen to the voice of our community by adopting this resolution.

4:29:33

Thank you for that concluding remark.

4:29:35

Debbie Mitch Simon wants to give me his time.

4:29:42

It's one minute.

4:29:46

There he is.

4:29:48

Well, go somebody go back there to get their speaker slip.

4:29:51

Proceed.

4:29:52

Thank you.

4:29:52

Dear Council members, my name is Debbie Bank, and I live in District One.

4:29:58

I want to explain.

4:30:02

I want to explain to you who is really behind the opposition, refusing the acknowledgement, anti-Semitism, and the IRA resolution.

4:30:11

Who is behind the emails you received against IRA?

4:30:14

And who we rallied these opponents of IRA in this meeting.

4:30:20

One organization is called CARE, Council of American Islamic Relations.

4:30:25

There is so much that can be said about this organization, including their support for international terrorism.

4:30:31

Their undisclosed foreign government funding ties to Hamas and promotion of anti-Semitism, anti-Semitism in general.

4:30:40

Here are care leadership quotes.

4:30:43

F Jews, I demand jihad.

4:30:46

I want ISIS to kill kill all of them.

4:30:49

Speaking of the Jews.

4:31:34

Siding with IRA opposition is siding with bigotry and hate.

4:31:38

Please adopt IRA.

4:31:41

Also, oh sorry, I want to really mention like all the organizations that support us is Jewish Federation of San Diego, Hilel San Diego, American Jewish Committee, ADL.

4:31:53

Thank you so much.

4:31:54

Thank you.

4:31:55

My apologies.

4:31:56

Tal Hanukkah.

4:32:01

Good afternoon, Council members.

4:32:03

My name is Tal Hanukkah.

4:32:04

I'm a San Diego resident from District 1, and I'm a Jewish mother raising children in this community.

4:32:10

Thank you, Councilmember Whitburn, for bringing forward this resolution.

4:32:14

A few months after October 7th, I was putting my young children into the car in a shopping mall while speaking to them in Hebrew.

4:32:22

A woman parked next to me overheard us and started yelling, effing Jew.

4:32:28

My children were right there listening.

4:32:31

Anti-Semitism is not abstract for Jewish families.

4:32:35

It happens every day, often in front of our children.

4:32:39

Healthy debate and criticism of governments, including Israel, are a normal part of democratic societies.

4:32:47

But there's an important distinction between criticizing a government and targeting Jewish people.

4:32:54

The IHRA definition is an important tool because it helps distinguish between legitimate criticism of Israel and hatred directed at Jewish people.

4:33:02

I urge you to vote yes.

4:33:03

Thank you for that concluding remark.

4:33:04

David Feng.

4:33:06

David F-E-N-G-D-U.

4:33:12

F-E-N-G-D.

4:33:15

U.

4:33:16

Fengle.

4:33:18

Fine gold.

4:33:19

Oh, my apologies.

4:33:20

Yes.

4:33:21

I have horrible spelling, sorry.

4:33:23

Um, but yeah, no, uh, we all know what anti-Semitism is, and this isn't actually going to stop it, but it's a culture.

4:33:30

We all know that we can't call little people M words or black people N-words or retard, well, whatever.

4:33:38

The point is is language evolves, and you know, for me, I was at the market the other day, and somebody just honked their horn and said, fuck Israel, which it would have been better if they just called me a Jew, but it's evolving.

4:33:49

So this is actually about just protecting children by creating a culture where it's not okay to go after somebody just for being a certain religion or you know, wearing what they wear.

4:34:00

But most of San Diego, I just will say, is like very tolerant of us.

4:34:04

It's just a few people, and it's those few people that cause me to have to go behind bulletproof glass tonight when I go study Torah or you know, have to hang out with security guards at every single function.

4:34:15

It's just not normal.

4:34:16

And you know, that's pretty much all it is.

4:34:18

But yeah, vote for it.

4:34:20

And uh, we all know what anti-Semitism is, but we just sad that we have to define it.

4:34:25

Thank you, John Sarantino, and then Julie Sorrentino, Jonas McLannan, and if I can have Grandma Essie and Elliot, David Rodstein, please come up to the first row.

4:34:37

Um, John, you have time ceded to you by Elena Ringel.

4:34:42

Thank you so much.

4:34:42

You'll have two minutes, please proceed.

4:34:45

Hello, and thank you for allowing me to speak here today.

4:34:47

My name is John Sorentino.

4:34:49

I'm the pastor of New Covenant Tabernacle, and anti-Semitism has directly affected our church.

4:34:54

And we have over a hundred members from San Diego City from Nestor, Paradise Hills, Skyline, Alta Vista, Palm City, and Ocean View Hills.

4:35:02

Our church is not Jewish, but we have many Jewish members.

4:35:06

As a Bible-believing church, we hold true that those who bless Israel will be blessed, and those who curse Israel will be cursed.

4:35:13

And most importantly, the commandment to love your neighbor.

4:35:16

We believe that the Jewish community is our neighbor.

4:35:19

Sadly, because of this position, our church has experienced all kinds of anti-Semitism.

4:35:24

Our youth have been bullied, threatened, and even attacked at their schools.

4:35:28

Our church has been forced to use armed security, and many of our members now legally carry firearms to protect themselves and their families at church because of the threats we've encountered.

4:35:38

The IRA definition of anti-Semitism would give authorities a foundation to identify and deal with this form of prejudice.

4:35:46

Recently I traveled to both of the hallowed grounds of Poland's Nazi death camps and the ravaged Gaza envelope.

4:35:53

These horrific events that happened in those places did not begin with bullets and bombs, but with words, lies, and threats.

4:36:00

Words that dehumanize others, words that dismiss hatred, words that justify violence.

4:36:07

Adopting the IRA definition of anti-Semitism would allow those who perpetuate violence or cowardly speak hate from behind a keyboard or yelling threats through a bullhorn, be identified and held accountable for their words.

4:36:21

So today I ask you on behalf of the hundreds of members of our church and the thousands of Jewish residents who deal with this on a daily basis that you vote yes and adopt the IRA definition of anti-Semitism and protect those you serve.

4:36:35

Thank you.

4:36:37

Julie Sorentino.

4:36:42

Good afternoon, Council President and Council members.

4:36:45

My name is Julie Sorentino, and I serve as a Christian pastor.

4:36:49

I stand before you today because this is a defining moment for moral clarity for the Jewish people, the Christians, and people of uh from all backgrounds of faith.

4:37:01

Scripture calls us in Isaiah 117 to seek justice and defend the oppressed.

4:37:07

Today that means having the courage to clarify or to clearly identify and confront anti-Semitism.

4:37:16

This is not theoretical for us.

4:37:18

This is personal.

4:37:21

In our church, a young girl in high school has been threatened simply for standing with Israel.

4:37:26

Our ministry has received death threats and ongoing hate speech online because we openly support the Jewish community.

4:37:34

We have had to take security measures out of real concern for potential violence.

4:37:40

This is happening here, not somewhere else.

4:37:43

Please vote.

4:37:44

Jonas McClanahan.

4:37:47

My apologies.

4:38:01

I'm glad I'm a little confused.

4:38:03

Sometimes it seems like this is about the state of Israel, but sometimes it seems like it is.

4:38:08

I I know where I stand.

4:38:10

I'm against genocide.

4:38:11

I'm against torture.

4:38:13

I'm against rape.

4:38:15

I'm against children being killed.

4:38:17

And if that makes me anti-Semitic, I guess I am Grandma Essie.

4:38:24

All right, we've been doing pretty good.

4:38:26

Let's keep it to thumbs up or thumbs down.

4:38:29

Grant Messi, please come forward to the microphone.

4:38:32

It's your turn to speak.

4:38:33

Then that's Ann Elliott, David Rodstein, Manuel Batran, Dar Holy, Jade Assey or John Osley, and Leah Kay.

4:38:43

If you can all please come forward to the yellow reserve seats.

4:38:46

Please proceed.

4:38:49

Oh, yeah.

4:38:54

Good afternoon.

4:38:57

Council members.

4:38:59

Especially Mr.

4:39:00

Whitman, he's my council member.

4:39:02

Thank you, Mr.

4:39:03

Whitman.

4:39:04

But this is the last straw.

4:39:07

I have some confrontations with you.

4:39:10

But this one takes the best.

4:39:13

You are you are being discriminated as Jews.

4:39:18

I can't believe that.

4:39:19

Look at all these Jews lined up all well to do, full of money in their pockets, APAC money.

4:39:26

And they are coming one by one.

4:39:29

Doesn't give me a chance to talk.

4:39:32

We are, this is a one-sided session.

4:39:35

I can see this bill is going to go through.

4:39:37

So why waste my time on yours?

4:39:40

So I cannot say anything about this bill because it's already been planned.

4:39:45

Everything I see it's done.

4:39:47

Finish.

4:39:48

Why are we having so much Jewish problems?

4:39:52

Us the Israelis who are killing babies and you know what's going on in there.

4:39:57

You know what's a genocide is.

4:40:00

Your time has concluded.

4:40:01

And Elliot.

4:40:03

Your time has concluded, and Elliot, please come up to the microphone.

4:40:08

Ma'am.

4:40:10

Ma'am.

4:40:10

Sit down.

4:40:13

Ma'am?

4:40:18

Ma'am?

4:40:21

And please proceed.

4:40:23

Zan Elliott.

4:40:24

I live in North Park.

4:40:25

I oppose the adoption of the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism.

4:40:30

It's true that anti-Semitism has been increasing, but so has Islamophobia.

4:40:36

Do we need a special law for each type of discrimination in this country?

4:40:41

Speech which criticizes the actions of the Israeli state is not anti-Semitic.

4:40:46

I criticize both the State of Israel and the United States.

4:40:49

When we conduct wars of choice which devastate populations, it is my first amendment right to say what I think.

4:40:57

Are we becoming an Orwellian state where our thoughts are surveilled by thought police?

4:41:03

I vote my conscience, and I will not vote for any politician who takes money from an Israeli affiliated lobby.

4:41:09

The Democratic Party needs to wake up to the reality that the presidential election was lost in part due to its failure to acknowledge the genocide perpetrated by the state of Israel and funded by the United States.

4:41:20

Thanks.

4:41:23

David Rodson.

4:41:24

Okay, David, before you get up, I've asked you three times really nicely.

4:41:29

Those who came up and spoke in supported this, there are people back there that don't agree with you.

4:41:34

And then not a sound came out of them.

4:41:36

They put their thumbs down, they waved their signs.

4:41:39

Please extend the same courtesy.

4:41:41

Let people speak.

4:41:42

We'll get through this, and then we'll turn it over to the council members, whether you agree or disagree with this.

4:41:48

Let's keep it civil.

4:41:49

I know that can be painful given what some of you have experienced, but bear with us here in council chambers and in the committee room and the overflow.

4:41:58

Thank you.

4:42:00

David Rothstein, please come up.

4:42:04

Thank you, Council.

4:42:05

My name is David Rodstein.

4:42:07

I'm an attorney of about 15 years.

4:42:09

I've worked for two federal agencies.

4:42:11

I've served as an assistant attorney general in a couple states and have an MPA from Berkeley.

4:42:15

I want to speak today in favor of the IHRA definition.

4:42:19

The IRA definition does not limit free speech.

4:42:22

There's a distinction between free speech, harassment, intimidation, and discrimination.

4:42:28

One is okay, one is not okay.

4:42:31

Government agency, government agencies also have civil rights obligation to ensure access based on religion, ethnicity, and national origin.

4:42:40

This includes for Jewish people.

4:42:42

I want to be clear on the IHRA definition.

4:42:45

You are able to criticize Israeli policy, Israeli officers in the same manner as any other country.

4:43:01

We know what it is.

4:43:02

Please adopt the IHRA definition.

4:43:04

Thank you.

4:43:06

Manuel Manuel Beltran or Manor Betran.

4:43:11

Honorable City Council, thank you so much for uh meeting with us today.

4:43:15

I'm coming to you in favor of item 500 and the adoption of IRA definition of anti-Semitism.

4:43:22

Uh, as a 30-year-old from South Bay, I can tell you I've seen anti-Semitism rise down there.

4:43:27

I've seen it be spread amongst young people, amongst people in colleges, amongst people in the workplace, and I hear to tell you as a Christian that I, for one, I don't stand with it, and I stand with my Jewish community, especially, and I echo their words from May 9th, 1945 to recently in Temple to up in San Jose, never again.

4:43:49

This is exactly what this is about.

4:43:50

This is not about some criticism of Israel.

4:43:53

This is about defending Jewish people, the Jewish community, and us as Christians, we're standing with them because we seek justice and we will consistently seek justice regardless of the consequences.

4:44:04

Thank you.

4:44:11

Hi.

4:44:12

Hello, my name is Dar Levy Feldman, and I wrote a speech, but I'm not gonna use it because you just experienced an anti-Semitic token that was used against us about how we're all rich and have money in our pocket to acute to agree of why you shouldn't vote against uh the Ira resolution.

4:44:33

I'm beyond, and I know why our my community reacted this way, because we all know where this is going when the Jews are accused in those tokens.

4:44:43

I'm a I'm a granddaughter of survivors of the Holocaust, and I cannot believe the things that I'm hearing in 2026 in America.

4:44:52

I have 20 more seconds, so I'll just share a few of my incidents in the past six years living in San Diego.

4:45:00

I was accused by a neighbor in Pacific Beach that I moved here to take over America.

4:45:04

The rest of the table was quiet.

4:45:06

Um Ocean Beach, I was asked, Oh, are you a Jew?

4:45:09

I didn't know we have those here.

4:45:11

We're just from New York, we're overwhelmed by Jews.

4:45:14

Thank you, guys.

4:45:15

Please, Jod um Asi.

4:45:20

Hello.

4:45:21

So my name is John Asi.

4:45:23

Ironically, I also had another speech prepared.

4:45:25

But council people, I noticed in the PowerPoint presentation and the speech for item S500, it said criticism of Israel will not be considered anti-Semitism.

4:45:35

That is a lie.

4:45:36

In the AIHRA website I just read said I quote, contemporary examples of anti-Semitism in public life, media, schools, and workplace, and in the religious sphere could take into account overall context include but are not limited to applying double standards by requiring it of it, behavior not expected or demanded by another democratic nation.

4:45:56

What nation are we talking about?

4:45:58

Second, drawing it uh comparisons of contemporary uh Israeli policy to Nazis.

4:46:03

So in that presentation it said that criticism of Israel is not considered anti-Semitism, but on the IRH RA site I just read, it is one of the uh there are two uh actually three examples.

4:46:14

I only included two of examples where criticizing Israel is anti-Semitism, which is the truth.

4:46:20

Thank you.

4:46:22

Next is Leah Kay.

4:46:25

Leia Kaye, if you can please come forward, and then Tarek Asfu as were Angel Martinez, Daniel Mesira, Juan Perez, and Mejgan Afsha, if you can all please come forward.

4:46:39

Starting with Leia.

4:46:41

Leigh, if you can come to the microphone.

4:46:56

Are any of you Leia?

4:47:01

Leia Leia Kohler.

4:47:04

No Leah Kohler or Leia.

4:47:07

Okay.

4:47:11

Okay, we'll move on.

4:47:13

Terec Asfur.

4:47:33

I have been mourning for over 45 years of my life, even before becoming a naturalized American.

4:47:43

For my oldest Semitic Israelite family, who we have all the faiths in them.

4:47:53

I have recently learned 400 of my own families, relatives, have been killed and murdered by the European Zionist, American Israeli machine.

4:48:11

You could take my rights away from me here in America.

4:48:17

But our family is internationally recognized globally in the United Nations.

4:48:27

Thank you.

4:48:30

Next is Angel Martinez.

4:48:36

Hello, my name is Angel Martinez.

4:48:38

I'm a student here at San Diego City College.

4:48:42

I was fortunate to be born and raised here, and I believe strongly that we have a responsibility as a city to ensure our Jewish community community is safe.

4:48:51

However, I oppose the adoption of the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism.

4:48:58

For the flaw is that it blurs the lines between criticism of the Israeli government and hate speech against Jewish people.

4:49:05

The definition takes away advocacy for Palestinians suffering from genocide defined by the United Nations.

4:49:14

Justice for all means we don't leave anyone out.

4:49:17

So I'm calling for a more inclusive definition, and I hope you all know I am not against you.

4:49:23

We are all fighting the same fight.

4:49:26

Thank you so much for your time.

4:49:28

That's all for me.

4:49:30

Daniel Masida.

4:49:40

Hi guys, I'm Daniel Bettina, and like Angel, I am also a city at City College.

4:49:45

Just to qualify, no one in this room condones anti-Semitism.

4:49:48

However, it is not anti-Semitic to criticize a hypocritical ethnostate who was committing another Holocaust towards the Palestinians with our tax money, whose genocide is being internationally recognized as a genocide by the United Nations.

4:50:03

And I argue that committing a genocide under Jewish safety is anti-Semitism because people with bad beliefs will paint all Jews as Zionists, which is utterly false.

4:50:13

As there are Jews who are against the ongoing genocide in Gaza.

4:50:16

I oppose his resolution resolution, S500 and free Palestine.

4:50:20

Thank you for your time.

4:50:22

Juan Perez, if you can please come up.

4:50:24

If you've already spoken, please return to your seats.

4:50:26

And if I can have Mona Al Sarammy Espirito, Athena, Eber, Marcia, Bookstein, Marco, Guajardo, please all come forward to the yellow reserve seats.

4:50:37

Please proceed.

4:50:38

Hello, everyone.

4:50:39

My name is Juan Perez.

4:50:40

I am a union organizer, a Marine Corps veteran, and a concerned San Diegan.

4:50:45

I'm concerned because you all are about to vote on something that will infringe on our First Amendment right, which I have deployed twice to the Middle East to defend.

4:50:54

Twice I've been away from my family and friends, missed birthdays, holidays, and normal life, in order to protect these rights.

4:51:01

Ought to come home to my hometown of San Diego for you all to take it away from us.

4:51:05

It is not just a right that many of people have died overseas trying to protect, but a right that us and labor and activists here in the US need in order to fight corporate greed and to call out fight and fight fascism wherever it lies.

4:51:19

Trump just said this week that he wants to come after activists that criticize the war in Iran.

4:51:24

Sound familiar?

4:51:25

Last year in August, the labor council voted unanimously on a Gaza resolution which calls what Israel is doing to genocide and labels Israel the apartheid state and cause for an embargo.

4:51:37

Are you guys gonna stand with Trump on this or are you gonna stand with the people?

4:51:40

Thank you.

4:51:42

Mejgan Ashan.

4:51:44

Mejgan, I'm just going to ask, is there any other mezguns here?

4:51:50

Well, that's not Meshgal, I know that.

4:51:52

Any other mechanisms?

4:51:53

Okay, just making sure because I got three speakers for Meshgun.

4:51:55

So you have one minute, please proceed.

4:51:57

Thank you.

4:51:58

Good afternoon, and as salam.

4:52:00

Council President Lakava, Council members and fellow San Diegans.

4:52:04

As a civil rights leader and head of borderlands for equity for the past six years, we have experienced so much as an organization and a community, from Black Lives Matter to the collapse of Afghanistan to the women's movement in Iran and the genocide in Gaza, ice attacks of our most vulnerable innocents, and now possibly World War III.

4:52:23

We have been doxxed, we have been harassed.

4:52:25

I have personally received death threats and mail, as many of you know, when I ran for city council, since its genocide began, we have received thousands of calls, emails, cases, and regarding Islamophobia, anti-Arab hate, and those threatening the livelihoods of those advocating for our basic First Amendment's rights.

4:52:44

Artists, entrepreneurs, teachers, doctors, scientists, nurses, students, organizers, researchers, laborers.

4:52:51

What happened to the First Amendment?

4:52:53

We deserve to have our rights protected.

4:52:55

As people in our community, as people that are part of this place, we need to be able to do that.

4:52:59

Thank you for that concluding comment.

4:53:01

Mona.

4:53:06

Good afternoon, City Council members.

4:53:09

Um I'm here as a Nakba survivor.

4:53:12

My grandmother was born in 1938 in occupied Palestine at the time it was an occupied.

4:53:17

Um so I'm sitting in the back having an anxiety attack because there is an Israeli flag right next to me, representing the entity that took my family, my mother, my homeland, and has prevented me from ever returning.

4:53:35

The IRHA definition has been said to be an educational tool.

4:53:40

It is an educational tool, and it will be used as an educator, I know, to limit free speech.

4:53:45

Many of the examples for IRHA definition.

4:53:50

Shield Israel from accountability.

4:53:52

This is not neutral.

4:53:55

It will be used to control and limit narratives, and as an educator, I know exactly how that goes.

4:54:01

We are seeing it in education.

4:54:02

Trump's educational restrictions are real.

4:54:05

Please do not do the same thing.

4:54:08

Athena.

4:54:10

Athena, you have time to by Colleen Ditzel.

4:54:13

If you can please raise your hand, Colleen.

4:54:15

Thank you so much.

4:54:16

You'll have two minutes, please proceed.

4:54:19

I'm gonna ask for a bit of audience participation here.

4:54:22

I'm gonna read six quotes, and if any of them sound like something a Nazi would say, and then raise your hand and keep it raised.

4:54:27

Our council members included.

4:54:29

I apologize in advance for having to read these disgusting quotes, but it seems to be the only way to communicate my point.

4:54:35

Quote, those are animals.

4:54:36

They have no right to exist.

4:54:38

I am not debating the way it will happen, but they need to be exterminated.

4:54:41

Quote, the weak crumble, are slaughtered, and are erased from history, while the strong, for good or for ill, survive.

4:54:48

Quote, erase the memory of them.

4:54:50

Erase them, their families, mothers, and children.

4:54:53

If you have an Arab neighbor, don't wait.

4:54:55

Go to his home and shoot him.

4:54:57

Quote, there is one and only one solution, which is to completely destroy Gaza.

4:55:02

Quote, even one million Arabs are not worth a single Jewish fingernail.

4:55:07

Quote, what's so horrifying about understanding that the entire Palestinian people is the enemy?

4:55:12

End quote.

4:55:13

Again, raise your hand if any of those sound like Nazi quotes.

4:55:20

At some point, almost everyone agreed that this is Nazi nonsense, as do I.

4:55:25

Each and every one of these quotes from the upper echelons of Israeli society, prime ministers, ministers of education, ministers of justice, generals, speakers for the legislature, and other positions of power.

4:55:36

They are from officials describing their policy on how to interact with Palestinians.

4:55:42

Each of you who raise your hand thought that current Israeli policy, as stated in these quotes, is comparable to Nazi Germany policy.

4:55:48

Because the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism includes comparisons of modern Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.

4:55:55

And it does.

4:55:56

You can each look up the definition yourselves.

4:56:00

This definition is carefully crafted to silence any criticism of Israeli policy, and one that allows actual hatred to go unchallenged.

4:56:09

So every single person who raised their hand at any point is an anti-Semite under this definition.

4:56:14

Criticizing the mass slaughter of civilians is not anti-Semitic, and I hope our city council will agree with me and vote down this resolution.

4:56:21

Our next speaker is Marcia Buxtein.

4:56:25

After that is Marco Guajardo, Paula David, Turek R.

4:56:31

Danny Ayroso, David Langstein, and Vicky Esteya.

4:56:35

If you can all please come forward to the front row.

4:56:37

Please proceed.

4:56:39

Thank you for letting me speak.

4:56:42

I'm not used to speaking in public.

4:56:44

I'm used to playing my cello in public.

4:56:47

I have knocked on doors for a number of you to get you elected.

4:56:52

In 1975, I auditioned for the Jerusalem Symphony, and I played there for 10 months.

4:56:59

In that time, I toured the Sinai Desert and I went to Gaza, which is my idea of heaven, with those ancient date palm trees right on the ocean's edge.

4:57:11

I am horrified at what Israel is doing now.

4:57:14

This is not the Israel I visited in 1975 and 76.

4:57:19

This is a different Israel that thinks it's okay to murder people.

4:57:24

If you haven't heard of lavender or where's daddy, then you don't know what's going on there.

4:57:29

They are targeting poets.

4:57:37

But according to this definition, I am.

4:57:40

Thank you.

4:57:41

Our next speaker is Marco.

4:57:47

It goes without saying that hate crimes are intoler intolerable in this society.

4:57:52

And those crimes should be identified, and yes, we all know what anti-Semitism is, and I'm against it too.

4:57:59

But simply observing and listening to those in favor of this measure, the argument against it makes itself.

4:58:16

And that was that was cited from directly from the IHRA website, right?

4:58:23

Otherwise, you'd know to adopt the well-established Jerusalem Declaration on Anti-Semitism, which is the one that actually addresses these discrepancies that we're pointing to in conflating anti-Sionism with anti-Semitism.

4:58:35

Slapping the anti-Semitism label on legitimate critiques of a government or political ideology isn't a do me isn't a due measure that should be a priority of a city with so many pressing needs.

4:58:50

Paulette David.

4:58:53

P-O-U-L-E-T David.

4:58:58

Overflow, P O U, L E T David.

4:59:01

I don't see anyone else coming up.

4:59:08

I'll go come back.

4:59:09

I don't think we've actually missed somebody.

4:59:11

Tarek R.

4:59:16

Hello, my name is Tarek.

4:59:18

I uh live over in North Park.

4:59:20

Um it pains me greatly to hear all these stories about um all these anti-Semitic hate crimes being perpetrated here in the States.

4:59:30

I will say the I the IHRA definition will only serve to make these worse by conflating anti-Semitism with with criticisms of Israel.

4:59:40

While Israel is currently performing a genocide, murdering children in front of our eyes.

4:59:45

Uh people are seeing this.

4:59:47

It is live.

4:59:48

And it is not everyone's fault that if they see a Zionist entity doing these war crimes and not being held to account while it is also being conflated with Judaism in this definition and by the by the words of Israeli officials, that is only gonna make this worse.

5:00:05

And I urge you to vote against uh S500.

5:00:09

Thank you.

5:00:10

Danny Aroza.

5:00:19

Hello, my name is Danny Arrozzo.

5:00:21

I'm here today as a member of San Diego Veterans for Peace and Vice President of Students for Justice in Palestine at City College.

5:00:28

The IHRA definition of anti-Semitism is riddled with hypocrisy at best and a gross violation of free speech at worst.

5:00:35

Being non-legally binding doesn't stop it from suppressing free speech if it labels certain speech as hate speech.

5:00:41

Of its 11 examples, seven target speech against the state of Israel.

5:00:45

It classifies comparing Israeli policy to apartheid as anti-Semitic.

5:00:49

It does the same to speaking out against documented Israeli war crimes.

5:00:53

These are not just my positions.

5:00:55

They are held by Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and hundreds of Holocaust scholars who know that never again means never again to anybody.

5:01:02

The IHRA does not protect our brothers and sisters from the Jewish community.

5:01:06

It protects governments from accountability.

5:01:08

It has been used on campuses across this country to silence students, teachers, and community activists, defund their events, and punish their speech.

5:01:17

This hypocrisy this council needs to sit with.

5:01:19

Is the IHRA states vote no longer.

5:01:24

David, you have several people seating your time, if they can please raise their hand.

5:01:32

You are Elias?

5:01:33

Okay.

5:01:34

Rayed Khan.

5:01:36

Riad Khan, if you can please raise your hand.

5:01:39

Thank you.

5:01:40

Taha Mas Hassani.

5:01:43

Taha Masani.

5:01:45

Am I missing a hand?

5:01:46

I do not see that.

5:01:48

Omar Abusham.

5:01:50

Thank you.

5:01:52

There's two Omar Abushans.

5:01:54

Oh, because there were not two Omar Abhushans here.

5:01:58

Asma Zubaidi.

5:02:02

Asma Zubaidi.

5:02:06

Okay, thank you.

5:02:08

And Viali.

5:02:11

Thank you so much.

5:02:12

You will have two.

5:02:17

Six minutes, please proceed.

5:02:20

Thank you.

5:02:20

I won't need that much time, but um good afternoon.

5:02:24

My name is Dave Lagstein.

5:02:26

Um today I speak, unlike I did just a few hours ago, not on behalf of my union, but myself as a Jew.

5:02:32

I'm here to ask you to vote no today.

5:02:34

My grandparents on my father's side were from Austria.

5:02:37

They escaped in 1939 to America and settled in Queens, New York.

5:02:41

My grandmother lost six siblings and her parents in the Holocaust.

5:02:45

My grandfather lost his parents, my great-grandparents as well.

5:02:49

Like all Jews, I've experienced acts of anti-Semitism, including today.

5:02:54

When I was 13, the year of my bar mitzvah, our synagogue was desecrated with swastikas.

5:03:00

It was shocking.

5:03:02

But it wasn't until I had a conversation with my grandfather, when I was a little bit older, that I feel like I truly understood it.

5:03:09

Both of my grandparents never liked to talk about their experience in Austria.

5:03:13

But they made an exception to allow me to interview them for a high school project, because my success in academics were most important to them.

5:03:21

My grandfather was always quiet, and he doted over his grandchildren.

5:03:25

But just for a moment on that day, I saw another side of them.

5:03:30

After sharing their story and what it took to escape, I asked him if 50 years later, he was interested in going back to Austria.

5:03:38

And he was angry.

5:03:39

He was angry in a way that I had never seen before.

5:03:42

He asked me, why would I ever want to go back to Austria after what they did to me, after what they did to us?

5:03:48

And I could feel in my bones the hate that upended everything in his life at such a young age, and it was incomprehensible.

5:03:56

That conversation stayed with me.

5:03:59

It's part of the reason that I've been a community and labor organizer for 25 years, because I don't want anyone to feel that way.

5:04:06

My work is about standing for and with people that don't have the power in their own lives, like my grandparents did it.

5:04:14

Honestly, I don't talk much about anti-Semitism.

5:04:18

I don't talk about Israel publicly or even within my own family.

5:04:22

Because it's so painful and it's so divisive.

5:04:25

But I feel the need to speak today.

5:04:28

There's a great Jewish tradition of debate, even arguing.

5:04:33

It's true at my family get togethers.

5:04:35

And debating, even if you disagree, especially if you disagree, helps us learn from each other and sharpen our knowledge and inform our values.

5:04:45

And that's one of the reasons that I find the language of this resolution so confounding and so troubling.

5:04:51

This is language that shuts down debate by labeling free speech as anti-Semitic when it's a part of a fair-minded debate about foreign policy.

5:05:02

The violence we saw in Michigan this week and the broader rise in anti Semitic violence and rhetoric, it's shameful and it's unacceptable.

5:05:10

We should all be united in condemning it.

5:05:13

But when we conflate those horrific acts with criticism of Israel's foreign policy, we risk dividing people rather than bringing them together.

5:05:21

For those like me who oppose Israel's actions in Gaza, it can feel as though our voices are not welcome in the Jewish community.

5:05:29

I sat next to someone that basically questioned whether I was a part of the Jewish community as soon as I walked into this door.

5:05:35

And ultimately, I don't think that's makes us safer.

5:05:45

Every one of you ran for office and joined this council because you want to stand up for people that needed a voice.

5:05:51

Voting for this language as proposed will heighten division and send a message to Jews and non-Jews alike that your voice and your values aren't welcome.

5:05:59

I don't believe that's why you ran, and I don't believe that's why you're here.

5:06:03

So I want to appeal you to to you to slow this process down.

5:06:07

You have a letter in your hand, which I understand came in a couple hours ago from two members of the Human Rights Commission.

5:06:13

They've been part of this process that brought this recommendation to the council, and they said, given everything that they've learned since that vote, that they think it's appropriate to discuss it further, to hear all sides, to hear from academics, and to come up with a definition that's going to try and thread the needle of this really difficult conversation.

5:06:32

So they ask for you is to not move forward today, send this back to the HRC, give them the opportunity to debate and try and move forward.

5:06:40

I thank you for the opportunity to speak and thank you for listening.

5:06:45

Vicky Asea.

5:06:49

Faith Klinger, Mayam Marie, David Vidmar, Giovanna Adelson, and Eric Shamsideen.

5:06:58

If you can all please come up to the front row, please proceed when ready.

5:07:02

Good afternoon, Council members.

5:07:04

I live in the Fourth District, and I'm here to urge you to vote no.

5:07:08

This resolution will not protect the safety of Jewish people.

5:07:12

It will, in fact, protect the impunity of the apartheid genocidal government of Israel, providing them cover for the atrocities that they commit by quelling our constitutionally protected rights of free speech.

5:07:28

You've heard of the other major human rights organizations that have condemned Israel for being an apartheid genocidal state.

5:07:36

In addition to them, two Israeli-based organizations also say that Israel is committing genocide.

5:07:43

And that's Betzelum and Physicians for Human Rights Israel.

5:07:48

So I'm asking you to think about why.

5:07:53

Why have they been called genocidal?

5:07:57

Because they've exterminated tens of thousands of men, women, children, mostly children and women.

5:08:04

Do the right thing, please.

5:08:05

Thank you for that vote noting statement.

5:08:06

Faith Klinger.

5:08:12

Hello, Council members.

5:08:14

My name is Faith Klinger, and I am a United States Marine Corps veteran and I'm a mom.

5:08:18

I live in San Diego.

5:08:20

I have this book in my hands.

5:08:22

It's called I Have Lived a Thousand Years Growing Up in the Holocaust.

5:08:26

It's been in my personal book collection since I was 11 years old.

5:08:29

I bought it with my paper route money.

5:08:32

The Jewish Holocaust was the worst moment that I had ever heard about in history up until that point.

5:08:40

And I became fixated on how a group of people could do such terror to another group of people, denying their humanity, murdering them in cold blood, believing that the annihilation of the Jews would bring prosperity and peace.

5:08:53

I don't have words for the horror.

5:08:55

Evil doesn't go enough.

5:08:56

I learned everything I could about it, so I learned so when I learned of the apartheid in Palestine and have watched thousands of children be murdered.

5:09:04

I was shocked.

5:09:05

Surely the descendants of the Holocaust were not oppressing a group of people, believing that their annihilation would bring prosterity and peace to them.

5:09:17

Mayor Marie.

5:09:19

You have time ceded to you by Grace Rojas Jimenez.

5:09:22

If you can please raise your hand.

5:09:35

Hi, thank you, Council members.

5:09:36

I first want to condemn all anti-Semitism, but the IHRA definition is dangerous, and it shields a foreign governments and people who criticize the state of Israel under the guise of anti-Semitism.

5:09:49

Let's start with federal law.

5:09:50

The Simington Amendment restricts U.S.

5:09:52

aid to any country violating international safeguards and nuclear activity, but it's been proven that there have been in rich uranium found in soil samples in Gaza and in Lebanon, which I have provided their research paper here for you today.

5:10:06

The Glenn Amendment also requires the United States to sanction any country that detonates a nuclear device, but there has been no, there has been nothing against the State of Israel, and this is conf um conflated with blood libel.

5:10:18

Even though it is not blood label, this is actual evidence, researched by doctors.

5:10:24

I need to remind this council how Israeli prison guards were caught filming and gang raping a Palestinian man tearing his wrecking and breaking his ribs.

5:10:33

All charges were dropped, and they labeled that as blood libel.

5:10:35

We cannot conflate these things with anti-Semitism.

5:10:45

Can I put ID Seman?

5:10:48

Hi, I'm David Vidmeyer.

5:10:49

I'm in Claremont.

5:10:50

Um thank you for I don't know if I can thank you for um having this discussion.

5:10:56

It's depressing.

5:10:57

I have seven kids.

5:10:58

I feel like we're all valuable.

5:11:01

Nobody wants anybody to be doing this, but I would just implore you that um a resolution like this is not like my brother beforehand said, is not going to be helpful when the when the authors themselves of this definition are Kenneth Stern wrote, um, I crafted a definition of anti-Semitism, and I'm backing away from it because he saw how it is being used.

5:11:28

And I would just encourage you to slow down on this.

5:11:31

I haven't heard a discussion about our constituents and our neighbors here in San Diego who have lost 120 family members in Gaza, and much discussion on calling out a genocide and stop from the weapons that are manufactured in San Diego to stop sending them there.

5:11:46

But here we are talking about um six thank you for thank you, Giovanna Adelson.

5:11:57

Good afternoon.

5:11:59

I stand before you as a local concerned Jewish community member.

5:12:03

The fact that this item S500 is even being considered by this body is a shonda, a disgrace.

5:12:09

For the last two and a half years, we have all witnessed Israel committing the most unspeakable atrocities against the Palestinian people in Gaza and across the Levant.

5:12:18

These crimes against humanity have been perpetrated with impunity by a nation still state built on genocide and which was co-opted the identity of Jews the world over.

5:12:27

And now, make no mistake about it.

5:12:30

This city council, should it adopt the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism, will be engaging in an anti-Semitism by conflating my Jewish identity with the genocidal ethno-nationalist rogue state of Israel.

5:12:43

By doing so, you will be making me and all Jews less, not more safe.

5:12:48

Let me remind you that in other places such as Germany and the UK, where language that penalizes criticism of Israel has been conflated with anti-Zionist Jews.

5:12:58

They have been labeled as anti-Semitic.

5:13:00

Thank you for the people.

5:13:02

Make it make sense.

5:13:11

Hello to the Council of the Board.

5:13:12

My name is Eric Ahmed Shamsin.

5:13:14

I'm a Lebanese American university student who lives here in San Diego.

5:13:17

I come to you today to oppose uh IRHA definition due to the realm in which it does not, it is purely exclusive.

5:13:24

We recognize that there are crimes against the Jewish people and are in our communities, but we also recognize that our increase in crimes in Islamophobia, anti-Muslim, anti-Arab hate, and we need to support our students.

5:13:34

We need to support our parents' safety.

5:13:35

We need to support our families.

5:13:37

And as such, we should mend, we should amend this definition.

5:13:39

We should fix it, we should rewrite it, we should rework it.

5:13:42

We should take the time to really dig down into supporting our community and our safety for this.

5:13:47

It doesn't purely separate ourselves.

5:13:50

We cannot have this divide, and we need to recognize the safety of all our people.

5:13:53

Legislation and bill language should not be exclusive but should be equatorial to our community.

5:13:58

Thank you.

5:14:00

Jim Raush.

5:14:03

If I can have the following individuals, please come up to the microphone into the first row.

5:14:06

Jim Roush, Sarah Hassan, Michael Brackney, Craig Jones, Tom McCamin, Susan Orlovsky, and Hamal Khan.

5:14:16

If you can all please come up to the front row, please proceed when ready.

5:14:21

I'm a resident of Third District and professor of economics at UCSD.

5:14:26

I love data.

5:14:28

The data show that the Jewish organizations pushing the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism do not represent majority Jewish opinion.

5:14:37

The Jewish Electorate Institute conducted a scientific survey of Jewish voters.

5:14:41

They asked Jewish voters their opinion of the statement.

5:14:45

Israel is an apartheid state.

5:14:47

Exactly the kind of statement the IHRA definition is designed to suppress only 28% of Jewish voters said this statement is anti-Semitic.

5:15:00

It is this fanatical minority of Jewish voters that are represented by the Jewish organizations pushing the IHRA definition of anti Semitism.

5:15:09

Adoption of this definition will further inflame anti Semitism by trampling on San Diegans constitutionally protected freedom of political speech.

5:15:19

Please do not help a fanatical minority of Jews endanger the rest of us.

5:15:28

Sarah.

5:15:33

No.

5:15:34

Michael Brackney.

5:15:37

Michael, you have time seated to you by Riyad Khan.

5:15:43

Hello, I'm Michael Bracken.

5:15:45

And Dave Engel.

5:15:46

I don't see a riot.

5:15:49

So I do see Dave Engel, so you'll have two minutes, please proceed.

5:15:52

Thank you.

5:15:52

Hi, I'm Michael Brackney from Hillcrest, speaking as a member of the Peace Resource Center of San Diego.

5:15:58

I identify with the serious concerns expressed by those who support the council adopting the so-called IHR, a definition of anti-Semitism, but I'm very concerned about adopting it because I see it as a divisive influence in our community, one that pits Zionists against anti-Zionists instead of helping us all find our common ground with each other and ways to work together for peace and harmony in San Diego.

5:16:27

To begin with, it's not a proper definition at all.

5:16:31

The only thing it says as as actual as an actual definition is this vague sentence read previously that anti-Sism, anti-Semitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews, instead of saying clearly what we all know to be true that anti-semitism is prejudice against Jews, discrimination against Jews, aggression against Jews, quite possibly violence against Jews just because they're Jewish.

5:17:06

How can this be?

5:17:07

It's because the so-called IHRA definition was not written as a proper definition of anti-Semitism to begin with.

5:17:15

Its lead writer Ken Stern has said repeatedly it was created simply to help governments establish guidelines for collecting data on anti-Semitism, including ways in which hostility to Zionism in Israel could be but not necessarily are manifestations of anti-Semitism.

5:17:34

Moreover, he said repeatedly that it was created not for authoritatively defining anti-Semitism, and that he's very upset that it's been put to this misuse.

5:17:47

Please do not adopt this so-called definition of anti-Semitism.

5:17:55

Craig Jones.

5:18:01

Thank you.

5:18:01

I am Craig Jones, uh president of District Five.

5:18:06

My wife's family, Viennese Austrian Jews were wiped out by the Third Reich.

5:18:12

I know what anti-Semitism is, what it can do to generations upon generations.

5:18:20

Those who commit anti-Semitic acts conflate all Jewish people everywhere with the actions of the foreign state of Israel.

5:18:27

The IHRA definition does the very same thing.

5:18:31

It conflates the protection of the State of Israel with the protection of Judaism of all Jewish people everywhere.

5:18:37

If you embrace the IHRA definition, you will actually play into the mindset of those who commit anti-Semitic acts.

5:19:05

Tom McMahon McCeman.

5:19:13

Let's sort out three very different things today.

5:19:17

The first is the Jewish people.

5:19:19

The second is the political ideology of Zionism, and the third is the Zionist State of Israel.

5:19:27

The Jews are a proud and ancient people and culture renowned for their contributions to the world.

5:19:33

Jews have often faced anti-Semitic discrimination and persecution, and they deserve social and legal protections.

5:19:41

Second, Zionism is not Judaism.

5:19:44

Zionism is a specific political ideology based on a theory of Jewish supremacy.

5:19:51

Not all Jews are Zionists and not all Zionists are Jews.

5:20:00

It is not anti-Semitic to denounce the political ideology of Zionism and its dangerous political program.

5:20:05

The resolution proposes to use the IHRA statement as a tool to combat anti-Semitism, but it confuses and conflates the Jewish.

5:20:23

Good afternoon, City Council.

5:20:25

I'm Susan Olovsky, a resident of San Diego District 2.

5:20:29

I'm Jewish, born and raised in an orthodox family.

5:20:34

One of the teachings from my heritage I treasure most is Tikkun Olam, the responsibility to repair our shattered divided world.

5:20:47

Adopting the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism will not repair what's broken in our community or our nation or our world.

5:20:59

Remember, Trump based his executive order threatening Palestinian rights activists with deportation on the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism.

5:21:14

Voting to adopt it will silence free speech in our community.

5:21:19

It is the antithesis to the diversity of viewpoints and cultures that makes Sandy Padaking.

5:21:27

Jamal Ken.

5:21:29

Jamal, you have time to by Tai Ode, if you can please.

5:21:33

Thank you.

5:21:33

You'll have two minutes, please proceed.

5:21:36

Yeah, hi, Council members.

5:21:38

I'm a former city employee.

5:21:40

In fact, I used to sit back there on that chair when it was a city city manager's form of government.

5:21:48

I'm here to ask you to, of course, oppose IRA.

5:21:52

You know, you have every right as a council or individuals to support even the genocide in Gaza, if you want.

5:21:59

The ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, if you want.

5:22:02

I am not going to label you as hateful people.

5:22:06

I'm not going to label you as anti-Palestinian racist.

5:22:10

But if you pass this resolution, that is exactly what it will do.

5:22:16

It will stop me from saying my parents were ethnically cleansed from Palestine.

5:22:23

That is defined in IRA as labeled as anti-Semitic.

5:22:27

It will stop me from saying that the genocide that the war in Gaza was a genocide, because that is also defined as criticism of Israel, and it is also classified as anti-Semitism or anti-Jewish.

5:22:45

If I say I am against the Zionism as a political ideology, racist political ideology against Palestinians, because it displaced Palestinians.

5:23:02

This is what I want you to do.

5:23:04

If you have the right to be able to speak whatever you want to say, and you are not labeled, then allow me to do the same and do not label me if I speak my mind.

5:23:16

IRA will not do anything to stop the anti-Semite or anti-Jewish hate in the US.

5:23:24

There are other rules or other ways to deal with it.

5:23:27

Aira is a political, is it a political statement to defend a political entity?

5:23:36

I want to ask you, when was it the last time?

5:23:39

If I can have the following individuals, please come up to the yellow reserve seats, and if I can have those yellow reserve seats made available, Tazin Nizam, Nana Min Aka, Anthony, Baron, Aguirre, El Amin, Israel, B, Merilyn, Micah Spencer, and Carmen Nasser and Nicholas.

5:24:00

If you can please come up to the yellow reserve seats, and Tazin, if you can please come up to the podium.

5:24:10

Yes, you have time ceded to you by several people, Madeline Robishou, if you can please, Rabasha, thank you.

5:24:18

Um Mayam Zubaidi.

5:24:24

Thank you.

5:24:25

Um there was an Omar Oraza who ceded your time to Omayam, but she's ceding time to Tazeen, so are you wanting to cede your time to her to Tazin?

5:24:38

Omar Reza?

5:24:41

Omar Reizer, are you here?

5:24:44

Did you want to cede your time to her?

5:24:46

Thank you.

5:24:48

Lena Taiser Ode.

5:24:53

Lena, are you here?

5:24:56

Okay, thank you.

5:24:57

Japsi Gomez, are you here?

5:25:00

Are you here?

5:25:00

Jepsi Gomez.

5:25:03

I don't see.

5:25:04

Roberto Hernandez.

5:25:06

Are you here?

5:25:09

I don't see them.

5:25:10

And Shayda Kanji, are you here?

5:25:13

Thank you.

5:25:13

So you will have five minutes, please proceed.

5:25:18

Thank you.

5:25:18

Assalam alaikum, everyone.

5:25:20

Peace be upon you all.

5:25:21

I'm sad to say that the last week, the last few days of Ramadan, where I should be praying.

5:25:27

I have spent trying to reach out to people that I considered friends at one point.

5:25:32

And because my values did not align with their political aspirations, I have been ignored.

5:25:38

My name is Tazin Nizam, and I have the privilege and honor of serving as the executive director of Care San Diego.

5:25:43

And I will not defend care's work because my work speaks for itself, uplifting communities, uplifting humanity in San Diego, what I have done for decades.

5:25:52

And my personal work in interfaith tells everyone here that I am not an anti-Semit.

5:25:58

My Jewish friends will contest to that as well.

5:26:04

As someone who has stood for equity and humanity today, I am being told that my moral and civil outcry about a genocide that we have all witnessed unfold right in front of our eyes, suddenly will be considered anti-Semitic.

5:26:17

My advocacy for valuing of human life will be offensive to the community that has suffered lost themselves.

5:26:24

My ability to live by my values will be considered a violation of a city resolution.

5:26:30

Let us be clear.

5:26:34

Definitely is not about protesting the Jewish community.

5:26:38

It is about being against anti-Zionism.

5:26:44

It is not about protecting the Jewish community, I repeat.

5:27:00

It is about evading my civil rights guaranteed to me by the US Constitution.

5:27:06

Since October 2023, we have seen a rise in anti-Muslim crimes.

5:27:13

These complaints are filed by a brave few.

5:27:24

Consequences that come up come down from the highest U.S.

5:27:28

office.

5:27:29

The presidential order of attacking anybody who speaks against the state of Israel.

5:27:36

These incidences are on school campuses, at places of employment, and in public spaces just like this.

5:27:51

As it does not serve its intended purpose of protecting any community, especially the Jewish community.

5:27:58

It is rather a harmful and divisive motion brought forward in a hurry.

5:28:05

As mentioned earlier, the Human Relations Commission that has brought this forward is also considering it to be brought back to them for debate.

5:28:15

Councilmember Whitburn, I appeal to you as the one who brought this forward to reconsider this.

5:28:21

This is not a motion that will unite communities, protect communities.

5:28:25

It will just create divisiveness amongst our communities.

5:28:30

And I speak for the Jewish community as well.

5:28:35

When I say that this is not something that will protect them.

5:28:46

Maybe some of them at least that have reached out to me.

5:28:51

Let us all unite and fight against hate.

5:28:54

Not be divisive by these measures, not be divided by something which is going to gain some of us in here political clout.

5:29:04

San Diego is a beautiful place.

5:29:06

Let us keep it beautiful by uniting communities rather than dividing them.

5:29:10

Thank you.

5:29:12

Thank you to those who helped quieter the crowd.

5:29:14

You're doing great.

5:29:16

Still got a couple of hours at least to go here.

5:29:19

So bear with it.

5:29:21

In Aka.

5:29:24

You have time ceded to you by Susan Cernovsky.

5:29:27

If you can please raise your hand, Susan.

5:29:31

I don't see a Susan raising her hand here.

5:29:34

The slips were also messed up.

5:29:35

Mine was way before a lot of people, so Susan probably left at this point, which is really frustrating.

5:29:42

My slip was submitted before a lot of people.

5:29:45

We had a lot of people submit actually taking slips for myself in order to accommodate everybody.

5:29:50

We are trying to get through everybody.

5:29:55

Thank you so much.

5:29:56

You'll have two minutes, please proceed.

5:29:58

I am the daughter of a Nakba survivor.

5:30:01

My Palestinian father survived the mass slaughter.

5:30:06

Pause your time.

5:30:06

A second hand went up.

5:30:08

Was there a second person that was seeding time?

5:30:11

Does anybody else want to cede their time?

5:30:14

No.

5:30:15

Okay, we'll go back to talk to you.

5:30:17

You'll have three minutes, please proceed.

5:30:19

Thank you.

5:30:20

All right.

5:30:20

Can I start my time over?

5:30:21

Yes, I am.

5:30:22

Oh, yeah, yeah.

5:30:23

Well, let's just start your time over.

5:30:24

So we have at least the two And that's the third.

5:30:27

And the third.

5:30:28

My shirt is being seen because back to the First Amendment rights.

5:30:31

Okay.

5:30:33

Yella, we're ready.

5:30:35

I am the daughter of a nukba survivor.

5:30:37

My Palestinian father survived the mass slaughter and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians by the state of Israel.

5:30:43

I oppose this agenda item.

5:30:45

The IRA definition conflates actual anti-Semitism with criticism of Israel.

5:30:51

You all need to read the definition in full.

5:30:53

It explicitly says manifestations might include the targeting of the state of Israel, conceived as a Jewish collectivity.

5:31:01

This strips away our freedom of speech, our constitutional rights to hold Israel accountable for the ongoing genocide of Palestinians in Gaza, discrimination and segregation of Palestinians within Israel borders, and apartheid of Palestinians in the West Bank.

5:31:17

How about my Palestinian family that lives within Israel?

5:31:21

Yes, there are Palestinians who are citizens of the state of Israel.

5:31:26

Are they anti-Semitic for criticizing their own government?

5:31:29

Is my Palestinian mother who is an Israeli citizen racist towards Jewish people for criticizing the Israeli government for relentlessly bombing Palestinian children in Gaza?

5:31:40

No, it's important we do not conflate the two through the IRA definition.

5:31:45

Adopting this definition effectively says San Diego City Council believes in the segregation and discrimination of Palestinian Christian and Muslim citizens of the state of Israel.

5:31:57

Is that all what you stand for?

5:32:00

What is driving this?

5:32:01

Stephen Whitburn.

5:32:03

You're running for state assembly in 2030.

5:32:06

Are you taking money?

5:32:07

I'm not saying from Jewish people.

5:32:09

Are you taking money from pro-Israel lobby groups?

5:32:12

There is a distinction.

5:32:14

Isn't that what the IRA definition is doing?

5:32:16

We're we're distinguishing the two.

5:32:18

Are you taking money from pro-Israel groups to bring this forward?

5:32:23

Nicole Murray Ramirez brought this to the city human relations commission.

5:32:27

Has the commission ensured Nicole's not taking any money from pro-Israel lobby groups?

5:32:32

That is a conflict of interest, if so.

5:32:35

Free Palestine from corrupt politicians like Stephen Whitburn, the Christian Zionist Supremist Raul Campio, and King Todd Gloria, who's not even here today, who ran to be mayor by using his marginalized background, only getting to get into power to further marginalize those on the sidelines.

5:32:55

The group organizing the community to speak in favor of this item today, Israeli American council.

5:33:01

So again, how is this not about conflating the two?

5:33:06

This shows this isn't about protecting our Jewish brothers and sisters from hate.

5:33:11

It's about protecting the dangerous criticism from the dangerous state of Israel.

5:33:17

Boycott, divest, and sanction Israel from the top of my lungs.

5:33:22

We're here to discuss anti-Jewish racism.

5:33:25

So many of these speakers in favor of this item have called my Jewish brothers and sisters not real Jews.

5:33:33

How is that not anti-Semitic?

5:33:36

To all my comrades.

5:33:38

Thank you for the same.

5:33:39

That does conclude your time.

5:33:41

I don't believe in these people.

5:33:42

I believe in you telling that.

5:33:47

Anthony Barron.

5:33:50

After Anthony Barron, we have Aguir El Amin, Israel B.

5:33:54

Marilyn, Micah Spencer, and Ilka Weston.

5:33:57

If you can please proceed.

5:34:00

Hello.

5:34:00

I'm just a poor community worker from District 4.

5:34:04

The poor side of town, District 4.

5:34:06

I work out in the community and I'm just tired of my taxes going to the Zionist Holocaust against the Palestinians and seeing dead children day after day for years at this time.

5:34:18

And being surrounded by people who take glee and pleasure in that slaughter as it continues.

5:34:25

I have no faith in any of our council members, but I don't need faith in any elected representatives because I have complete faith in the righteousness of our cause.

5:34:34

And I know that history will absolve us.

5:34:37

If that makes me anti-Semitic, then so be it.

5:34:44

Next is Anjir Alamine.

5:34:49

I'm Akil Alamin, a longtime resident of the city of San Diego.

5:35:00

And I would ask the council people, please to look at the definition of C Mite and submit it, and not the definition that these people have come up with that is erroneous and manufactured in order to promote a political ideology.

5:35:10

I'm not here to give you a history lesson, but I'm an African American and I'm a Muslim.

5:35:15

And I have been discriminated on both causes.

5:35:20

And I know what discrimination is.

5:35:43

And if he would do it to me, he would do it to the Palestinians.

5:35:48

And I'm saying now, we cannot have it, and I advise you to vote no on this resolution.

5:35:54

Israel B.

5:36:00

Good answer, Mr.

5:36:02

President and all the council members.

5:36:04

My name is Israel, and um citizen of Republic Democratic of Congo in Africa, and uh um resident here in San Diego, lead pasta, it's precious name of Jesus Christ Church.

5:36:16

Mr.

5:36:17

President, I'm here to speak in favor of this agenda item regarding IHRA.

5:36:23

Mr.

5:36:24

President, I support adopting this definition because it helps clearly identify and address his anti-Semitism, which continue to impact our community and around the world.

5:36:37

I know what I'm talking about.

5:36:38

For many people, including those in Jewish community, Israel represents not just a nation, but a place of safety, identity, and history.

5:36:48

Supporting Israel's right to exist and defend itself, it is an important part of standing against hate and discrimination.

5:36:56

This measure is not about limiting free speech, it is about ensuring that anti-Semitism remarks.

5:37:05

Thank you for that concluding remark.

5:37:07

Marilyn, Micah Spencer.

5:37:10

After that, it will be Ilka Weston, Carmen Nasser Nicholas, Tom McCamin.

5:37:16

Not sure if I already said that one before.

5:37:18

Mark Powell, allegedly Audra, and Vicky Estrella, if you can all please come up to the front row.

5:37:23

Please proceed.

5:37:24

Hello, my name is Marilyn Nika Spencer.

5:37:28

I live in District 3, and I voted for some of you.

5:37:31

I am a Jew, and it is exactly because I am a Jew that I came here to urge you not to support this definition of anti-Semitism.

5:37:40

Antisemitism is a nasty, horrible view.

5:37:44

It's worse when this view is put into action.

5:37:47

I hate it.

5:37:48

All of my grandparents escaped anti-Semitism in Europe.

5:37:52

Many of my relatives didn't manage to escape and were murdered.

5:37:56

I've been subjected to anti-Semitism my entire life.

5:38:00

Most anti-Semitism is based on the stereotype that all Jews are the same at their core.

5:38:06

But that's not true.

5:38:08

Many of us have different views on everything, including this political state of Israel.

5:38:14

Many argue today that the IRA definition doesn't prohibit free speech, but even if it's not legally binding, adopting this position defines free speech about Israel as the same thing as Jew hate.

5:38:27

For that concluding comment, Ilka.

5:38:32

Yes, hello.

5:38:34

My name is Ilka Weston, and I know all of you.

5:38:38

And that's a fact.

5:38:40

And first let me point out great job, Ryan, to say how El Cahon, a Republican city, and Chula Vista, a Republican city, support this just like you support them.

5:38:52

And you attack disabled individuals as well.

5:38:55

Right now, what I'm here to urge everybody to do is table this.

5:38:59

It is not written appropriately.

5:39:02

When our black community has been attacked, has anything been done?

5:39:06

No.

5:39:07

When our Hispanic community has been attacked, has anything been done?

5:39:12

No.

5:39:13

Muslims have been killed in the percentage that you cannot imagine from the people of the government of Israel.

5:39:22

We are not saying that anti-Semitism is wrong, but it's very interesting that when Muslim people are talking about and you and thank you, Mr.

5:39:33

President, for allowing them to do that.

5:39:34

I expect two more, I expect 10 more seconds.

5:39:38

By you allowing them to talk out like that.

5:39:40

So I need 10 more seconds because they took it.

5:39:43

You got it from both sides.

5:39:45

So they interrupted you on both sides of the argument.

5:39:48

So you had your time.

5:39:50

I did not have my time.

5:39:51

I am not finished because I would like to.

5:39:53

Thank you.

5:39:54

You can wrap it up.

5:39:56

I want to urge that we table this right now.

5:40:00

It needs to be rewritten to include all people, including our Muslim brothers and sisters, because at this point in time, it's racist.

5:40:08

Thank you for that concluding remark.

5:40:09

Carmen Nasser Nicholas.

5:40:11

Nichols, my apology.

5:40:12

Carmen Nasser Nichols, are you here?

5:40:16

After that, Tom McCann, Mark Powell.

5:40:20

Allegedly.

5:40:21

Thank you.

5:40:23

Please proceed.

5:40:28

Okay, I'll call more Vicky Estrella.

5:40:32

Kate Yavenditi, if you can please come up to the front yellow reserve seats, and Amy Echter, if you can all please start making your way up to the front row.

5:40:40

Please proceed.

5:40:44

My name is Carmen Nasser Nichols, and I am a Semite, a Palestinian Semite.

5:40:49

My parents are survivors of Nakba.

5:40:53

I find this definition of anti-Semitism problematic for many reasons, including that it disregards and minimizes the racism and oppression experienced by the majority of Semitic people who are not Jewish.

5:41:06

I believe that Jodia Judeophobia, Islamophobia, Afrophobia, and other types of discrimination and bigotry are all equally wrong.

5:41:16

But allowing one religious group to define a term to suit their political agenda, which includes taking away our First Amendment right to free speech and silencing and marginalizing those who don't have the political power to have their definitions legally recognized, deeply insulting, and will create more division among religious and ethnic groups in San Diego and beyond.

5:41:47

That concludes your time exactly the situation.

5:41:51

And I hear you right, Tom McMahon, that you've already spoken.

5:41:55

Thank you.

5:41:56

Mark Powell, hello, council member, uh, council members and President Lakava.

5:42:09

My name is Mark Powell.

5:42:10

I'm here to urge you to vote in favor of the resolution recognizing the working definition of anti-Semitism adopted by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance.

5:42:20

For me, this issue is not abstract, it's deeply personal.

5:42:24

I'm a first generation American Jew.

5:42:27

In 1956, my mother was forced to leave the Middle East because of religious persecution.

5:42:32

She came to the United States seeking safety, freedom, and the ability to live with openly as a Jew.

5:42:36

But my mom and my mom made San Diego her home, a city where she believed she could live without fear.

5:42:42

Today I live in district six, and within district six, there's two synagogues and a Jewish community center.

5:42:48

These are places where families gather, where children's learn, where Jewish community thrives.

5:42:52

But when you walk into the Jewish community center, you'll see something that should trouble all of us.

5:42:56

Multiple armed security guards standing there watch.

5:42:59

They're there to protect the members of the preschool and the members of the Jewish community center.

5:43:04

Because people in this world literally want to kill Jewish people simply because they're Jews.

5:43:12

After that is Vicky Estreya, then Kate Yavenditti, if you can please come up to the front row.

5:43:18

Amy Echter, Sandy Hebb, Nicole Lily, all please come up to the front row.

5:43:23

Please proceed when ready.

5:43:25

Talk about hypocrisy.

5:43:26

It's interesting because Palestine is the holy land that's being taken over.

5:43:30

And I guess truth seems to be anti-Semitic.

5:43:33

Why aren't you guys including all Semites?

5:43:35

Why are we just saying that Jewish people are Semites?

5:43:38

It's interesting.

5:43:39

And then you're trying to force me to accept that pedophilia has become something that is, you know, something that people do.

5:43:47

It's written in the Talmud, and we're goyems, we're animals, right?

5:43:51

And it's okay to treat people a certain way if you're Jewish, but if you're not, then you're anti-Semitic.

5:43:57

And there seems to be a lot of hate that's been spewed around here by this group of people.

5:44:02

And it's very sad because it's like, no, I don't think that rabbis should suck the baby penises when they are circumcised.

5:44:09

And I will never think that that is something that we should support.

5:44:13

Or the genocide of people.

5:44:15

It's like if it's these people, it's okay, but not if it's them.

5:44:18

You guys need to course correct and understand that you are discriminating when you are saying only Jewish people are Semites because you're leaving out a whole class of people.

5:44:27

Your time is concluded, Vicky Estrella.

5:44:31

Thank you for letting us know.

5:44:32

There are duplicates in here.

5:44:34

Kate Yavendetti.

5:44:50

Although presented as def as simply a definition of anti-Semitism, in fact, it has been used to suppress the free speech of persons, especially those supporting Palestine and opposing the got the genocide committed by Israel in Gaza.

5:45:04

Locally, the guild has supported pro-Palestinian demonstrators, including providing legal support and defense for those arrested at the USD encampment and elsewhere.

5:45:14

These demonstrators have been characterized as anti-Semitic simply for speaking out against genocide.

5:45:20

They've been arrested, physically assaulted by supporters of Israel, disciplined at schools, and now many schools are suppressing their rights to speak out on Palestine, denying their First Amendment rights to speech and assembly.

5:45:34

The problem is that the definition of anti-Semitism that's contained in IRA is too broad.

5:45:43

Your time has concluded.

5:45:44

Amy Ector, if you can please come forward.

5:45:55

If you can please raise your hand.

5:46:01

Okay, let's give him time.

5:46:03

Brian O'Brien.

5:46:08

Oh, I see him coming and waving his hand.

5:46:10

Three minutes, please proceed.

5:46:11

Hello.

5:46:13

Thank you.

5:46:13

My name is Amy.

5:46:14

I'm with Code Pink, a feminist grassroots organization working to end US warfare and imperialism.

5:46:20

I live in District One, and I've been a resident of San Diego for 35 years.

5:46:26

The City of San Diego is attempting to redefine anti-Semitism, a definition where pointing out ethnic cleansing and the apartheid structure Israel has forced on Palestine would be deemed anti-Semitic.

5:46:38

To acknowledge that separate roads for Palestinians, separate IDs for Palestinians, separate rights for Palestinians, separate areas and cities, Palestinians are prohibited from entering in their own occupied land.

5:46:52

Separate laws carrying out executions by hanging only applied to Palestinians.

5:46:58

To see all of that and to call it what it is, racism in the highest degree, that would be considered anti-Semitic.

5:47:05

In the last 12 days, Israel has turbocharged a genocide in southern Lebanon with complete impunity.

5:47:12

They've deplaced over a million people, killed more than 800, with countless missing under the rubble.

5:47:18

We've seen schools, churches, mosques, and hospitals all targeted with Israeli bombs supplied by the U.S.

5:47:25

We're watching them use the same exact tactics that they have done to Gaza the past two and a half years.

5:47:33

They forcefully evacuate and displace an entire population.

5:47:37

They then carpet bomb and raise an entire city and prepare it for military occupation.

5:47:43

Yet it is our speech that is policed and prosecuted to a harsher level than the violence that the state of Israel commits, backed by our own tax dollars and our weapons from here in San Diego.

5:47:58

Our taxes aren't spent in service of us.

5:48:00

Our laws aren't written in service of us.

5:48:03

Our troops aren't even deployed in service of us.

5:48:06

We send them to serve the interests of Israel and the global elites.

5:48:10

Our sanctions strangle and starve the people of Iran as they do the people of Cuba and Venezuela, while we blockade and steal even more oil and carpet bomb innocent civilians in Gaza and Tehran and now Lebanon.

5:48:25

But we're told our words are the real violence.

5:48:28

When will those like you, San Diego City Council, have that have sat back and watched with your authority, comfort, and convenience choose to act?

5:48:40

Councilmember Whitburn, you said you'd support a ceasefire resolution over a year ago.

5:48:46

This council has broken its promises to keep all of our children safe.

5:48:50

And in that same time frame, expanded the city's surveillance apparatus built by collaborators of an apartheid state and this genocide.

5:49:00

How are your future voters like my children expected to believe any of you have any interest in changing the trajectory of this city that sends weapons for genocide and that fights against their freedom and future?

5:49:15

Sandy Hebb.

5:49:17

Sandy Hebb, are you here?

5:49:20

Oh.

5:49:21

Please come up.

5:49:22

Nicole Lilly, Liliana Soriano, Sparky M, Joanne Wenberg, and Joe Castiglione, if you can please come up to the front row.

5:49:31

Please proceed when ready.

5:49:44

Please start.

5:49:47

Thank you for your time.

5:49:49

You said this bill is about safety, civil rights, building social cohesion.

5:49:53

Meanwhile, I just witnessed one of the Zionist community uh taking pictures and writing the names of every person that's against this item.

5:50:01

So you point out your statistics are a rise in uh they're no doubt from the ADL, the same ADL that when Elon Musk raised his arm in that Nazi salute, they strangely defended him.

5:50:12

That's weird.

5:50:12

They're very selective in their outrage.

5:50:16

They're also been discredited by the FBI and labeled unreliable by Wikipedia.

5:50:22

Many people says uh never again.

5:50:24

That's very selective, too, as uh witnessing the the ongoing Holocaust.

5:50:30

Seems like the values of uh opinions of a few genocide scholars that wrote this IHRA for a manipulated definition of uh anti-Semitism.

5:50:39

But when 800 scholars unanimously call it a genocide, you don't care about them.

5:50:45

The real question here is um the biggest enemy is the Israel is the truth.

5:50:51

And that terrifies the Zionist community because Nicole Lilly.

5:50:55

And Israel is no longer ahead in the sympathies.

5:51:00

That's the real thing that you're Nicole Lilly.

5:51:03

Please come forward.

5:51:05

Okay, the next one who does what he did is going to be outscor escorted out of the room.

5:51:10

We're all actually we're not even close to being done, but please bear with us.

5:51:16

Hello, my name is Nicole Lilly.

5:51:18

I'm a resident of District 3, and I'm here today because I'm deeply concerned by the IRA definition of anti-Semitism.

5:51:24

This definition wrongly and dangerously conflates the criticism of Israel and Zionism with anti-Semitism to protect the impunity of Israel.

5:51:32

Under this definition, saying that Israel is found by international courts to be committing genocide in Palestine, to critique their brutal murder of nearly 200 Iranian school children, to say Israel and the U.S.

5:51:41

poisoning an attempted eradication of entire peoples is abhorrent.

5:51:45

To accurately call Israel an apartheid state would all be falsely labeled anti-Semitism.

5:51:49

As a queer youth organizer and UCSD alum, I can tell you firsthand how such a definition is used not to protect Jewish people and students, but to strip away free speech and civil liberties of those who dare to call out genocide and real acts of anti-Semitism and Islamophobia.

5:52:03

Our words matter, and official resolutions of this council are binding in ways that matter.

5:52:08

As you decide today, think of your children and think of the children in Palestine and in Iran and around the world that IRA tells us it is anti-Semitic to defend.

5:52:16

Do not conflate the critique of genocidal actors with real incidents of hatred against Jewish people.

5:52:21

Liliana Soriano.

5:52:25

Liliana Soriano, are you here?

5:52:29

See if you're hearing from Overflow.

5:52:31

Sparky M.

5:52:36

Hello, Council members.

5:52:37

I'm Smarky Mitra, a queer bioengineer and a resident of District 3.

5:52:41

Let us be clear.

5:52:42

The IRA definition that is being considered for adoption blatantly disregards the conclusion of several human rights organizations.

5:52:48

And that international NGOs and organizations within Israel itself, such as Beth Salam, have concluded that the Palestinian people are being ethnically cleansed due to the genocidal acts of Israel that are being propped up by American militarism.

5:53:00

My fellow classmates at my onomato's UCSD in Colombia have faced constant attacks because of officials' failure to protect the freedom to protest genocide.

5:53:09

From arrests to suspensions to immigration enforcement, the weaponizing of such inaccurate definitions has done irreparable harm to the livelihoods of many Palestinians and allies.

5:53:19

Keep in mind many of us have already lost family to constant bombardment, kidnapping, and bigotry.

5:53:25

With the very real rise of anti-Semitism and Islamophobia, it is exceedingly important to separate the defense of warmongering states from the defense of Jewish people.

5:53:33

Please don't adopt this resolution.

5:53:35

Thank you.

5:53:36

Joanna Winberg.

5:53:42

Good afternoon.

5:53:43

I am from District 1 and a Jewish member of Congregation Dor Hadash, though though these views are my own.

5:54:18

Respecting dissenting opinions is holy to Jewish tradition, and I cannot support a resolution suggesting that Jews are safe only when dissenting voices are silenced.

5:54:28

Our safety is bound up together.

5:54:30

Thank you.

5:54:31

Joe Castiglioni, if you can please come forward.

5:54:34

If I can have the following individuals, please come up to the front row.

5:54:37

Greg Denham, Noah Abrahams, Diana Rosenstein, El Nav Lavi, Romy Nevstadt, Alan Vitarby, if you can all please come up to the front row.

5:54:50

Please proceed.

5:54:51

My name's Joe Castileon, and I'm a Jewish resident of District 3.

5:54:55

The Nazi SS leader, Heinrich Himmler said the subhuman has found its leader, the Jew.

5:55:00

The subhuman will always be subhuman as a Jew remains a Jew.

5:55:04

After October 7th, Joao Galant, Israel's defense minister, announced that there would be no food, no water for Gaza.

5:55:10

We're fighting human animals.

5:55:12

A few weeks later, Israel's former ambassador to the United Nations, Dan Gillerman said, I'm puzzled by the concern the world is showing for the Palestinian people for these horrible inhuman animals.

5:55:22

I've just drawn a comparison between Nazi leaders and Israeli leaders to humanization of others.

5:55:30

The IRA definition says that my factual statements are an example of anti-Semitism in public life.

5:55:36

Just look at the tenth bullet in the definition.

5:55:40

IRA has absolutely been used to suppress First Amendment rights.

5:55:44

Look no further than defunding universities or initiating deportations.

5:55:47

And at the very least, I urge you to continue this item and to solicit important additional perspectives.

5:55:53

Thank you.

5:55:54

Greg Denham.

5:55:58

Good afternoon, everybody.

5:55:59

My name is Greg Denham, pastor of Rice Church, also representing a coalition of pastors that represent thousands in San Diego.

5:56:06

It is an honor to stand with the Jewish community amidst the radical rise of anti-Semitism, which by nature is the demonization of an ethnicity.

5:56:16

It is pure racism.

5:56:18

And this is where your leadership is needed to take a stand because anti-Semitism is not only a threat of psychological warfare, reputational harm, but also physical harm to Jews.

5:56:30

It's also cover fire.

5:56:31

It always has been for evil to advance, advanced ideological ammunition to jihadist movements that openly declare their intent to dismantle Western civilization.

5:56:43

We see such rhetoric in our own backyard.

5:56:45

So I ask that you please lead and make San Diego proud.

5:56:50

Thank you, and God bless you.

5:56:52

Noah Abraham.

5:56:57

All right.

5:56:57

Escort that lady out, please.

5:56:59

Hi.

5:57:05

Do not applaud.

5:57:06

Do not applaud.

5:57:08

I do not take that lightly.

5:57:12

Please proceed.

5:57:14

Good afternoon, Council Stephen Whitburn.

5:57:17

Thank you.

5:57:18

Let's just be clear on why we want to adopt this definition in San Diego.

5:57:22

As a Jewish community, we don't just want to be protected.

5:57:25

We want to be taken seriously.

5:57:27

We want to ensure that anti-Semitism is recognized and addressed with the same seriousness as other forms of hate.

5:57:34

And recently, I attended an event where a Holocaust survivor was drowned out by the noise disruption caused by those who refused to uh who refused to respect his freedom of speech.

5:57:47

This a man who survived concentration camps.

5:57:50

A man who was trying to educate on the past so that the future cannot repeat itself.

5:57:56

But with no IHRA protection, we were unable to hear his voice.

5:58:01

Today we're here because we deserve to be heard.

5:58:04

And in adopting this definition, we send a clear message that anti-Semitism has no place in San Diego.

5:58:09

And crucially, the Jewish residents are valued members of this community.

5:58:17

Diana Rothenstein.

5:58:21

Diana Rothstein.

5:58:22

There's time seated by Ella Revzine.

5:58:25

If you can please raise your hand.

5:58:27

Thank you.

5:58:28

Someone is already going out there to close the door.

5:58:35

Hold one second.

5:58:39

We'll close the door.

5:58:41

I'm pausing your time until they close the door.

5:58:43

Two minutes.

5:58:44

Yes, you have two minutes.

5:58:45

Thank you.

5:58:45

My name is Diana Roisenstein.

5:58:47

I'm a member of the Sandiego Jewish community from District 7.

5:58:51

I grew up in Belarus during the Soviet period, where anti-Semitism was part of everyday life.

5:58:58

At the beginning of each school year, teachers took attendance, and students were asked not only their name, but also their nationality.

5:59:07

When a child said Jewish, classmates laughed, and teachers did nothing.

5:59:12

My parents taught me to say I was Belarusian to avoid being singled out.

5:59:21

Soviet officials claimed they were not targeting Jews, only Zionists.

5:59:25

Soviet anti-Zionist propaganda frames us as progressive anti-fascist cause.

5:59:31

But in reality, Jews were a targeted harassed, denied university admissions and job promotions, and blamed for society's problems.

5:59:39

I thought I had left anti-Semitism behind when I moved to the United States in the early 90s.

5:59:45

But not anymore.

5:59:47

Today San Diego has the third highest number of anti-Semitic incidents in California, with incidents occurring in college campuses and K-12 schools.

6:00:00

When this situation arise, educators and administrators often struggle to determine when something has crossed the line from political expression into harassment targeting Jewish people.

6:00:07

Clear guidance matters.

6:00:09

It helps distinguish legitimate discussion about the Middle East from rhetoric that crosses the lines into anti-Semitism and corruption harassment.

6:00:19

Having grown up in a place where simply being Jewish could make you a target.

6:00:23

I know that hatred can hide behind political language, including when it's expressed as anti-Zionism.

6:00:30

Adopting this definition will help San Diego recognize anti-Semitism when it appears and respond before it harms our children in our community.

6:00:38

I respectfully urge you to vote yes.

6:00:41

Thank you.

6:00:42

And I want to add to reply to a speaker who said that seeing the Israeli flag triggers her.

6:00:48

Thank you for that concluding comment.

6:00:50

Your time has concluded.

6:00:53

Josie?

6:00:54

Teffenburn.

6:00:55

Is there a Yossi here?

6:01:02

I'm sure they submitted a speaker something.

6:01:05

Elna Vlave.

6:01:09

Elna Vlave, you have people seeding you time.

6:01:12

Sharon Steinberg, please raise your hand.

6:01:15

Thank you.

6:01:16

And Adi Cohen.

6:01:18

Thank you.

6:01:18

You'll have three minutes, please proceed.

6:01:20

Thank you.

6:01:21

Dear council members, I'm here today, not just a community member, as a mother.

6:01:26

Antisemitism is not an abstract debate.

6:01:29

It's not about politics.

6:01:31

It's not about talking talking point repeated by some people that are seeing some videos on TikTok.

6:01:36

I'm going to share with you today about real daily experiences my kids are facing, our kids are facing.

6:01:43

Last year, my daughter was in her middle school historic class when her teacher referred to her as the Jew kid.

6:01:50

It is not 50, 70, 80 years back.

6:01:53

It is last year.

6:01:55

An history teacher in front of the old class called my daughter, the Jew kid.

6:02:00

Imagine being uh in a class, a child, and suddenly being singled out like that in front of all your classmates.

6:02:07

It's not about politics.

6:02:10

And just two weeks ago, my son, who is a college student at Cal Poly, experienced anti-Semitic bullying at the fraternity.

6:02:17

It was serious enough that it was reported.

6:02:19

So you can you can look up, you can see it in the news.

6:02:22

Again, no politics, no history.

6:02:25

It is here now, happening in San Diego, in my house, in my kids' schools.

6:02:32

These are not stories from decades back ago.

6:02:35

This is happening now to our children.

6:02:37

This is why the walking definition from the IHRA matters.

6:02:40

It gives schools, universities, and communities a clear tool to recognize anti-Semitism.

6:02:46

When it happens, instead of dismissing it or pretending it's something else.

6:02:51

No child should be reduced as the Jew kid.

6:02:54

No student should be targeted for being Jewish.

6:02:57

Please adopt IHLA so that when it's anti-Semitism happens, institutions have the clarity and courage to address it immediately.

6:03:06

Please adopt it.

6:03:07

Thank you.

6:03:09

Next is uh Romy Nurstadt.

6:03:15

Thank you.

6:03:16

My name is Romy Newstadt, and I live in District One.

6:03:19

Good evening.

6:03:21

My children have been confronted and called baby killers and Zionist scum if they've tried to enter events right here in this city.

6:03:29

Just a few weeks ago, I was at Trader Joe's and was physically blocked from reaching for the Israeli feta.

6:03:36

The large man said, if you buy that, you're supporting genocide.

6:03:40

Then he was close enough to see my starved David, and he said, you Zionists disgust me, and he refused to move.

6:03:48

This is what the IRA definition addresses.

6:03:51

It doesn't silence critics of any government.

6:03:54

It simply states that targeting Jews for the actions of a foreign state isn't political discourse.

6:04:00

People, this is anti-Semitism.

6:04:03

This de definition restricts no speech.

6:04:06

It's a tool when already adopted, as you've heard, by 40 countries, 30 US states, and our neighbors in Chula Vista and El Cajon.

6:04:13

We deserve to live in a San Diego Govacken name.

6:04:17

Thank you for that concluding comment.

6:04:18

Thank you for your.

6:04:19

Alan Viterbe, you have time stated to you by Jeff Schneider.

6:04:22

If you can please raise your half.

6:04:24

And what's your name?

6:04:26

Thank you.

6:04:27

We'll have someone go to slip.

6:04:28

Three minutes.

6:04:29

Jeff, did you raise your hand?

6:04:30

My apologies.

6:04:32

I think he may have left.

6:04:33

Okay, so you have two minutes.

6:04:34

Please proceed.

6:04:35

Alan Bitterby, city resident and the San Diego regional president for the American Jewish Committee, the nation's oldest and largest Jewish public advocacy and human rights organization.

6:04:47

We support the resolution before you.

6:04:49

Three brief points I'd like to make today.

6:04:52

One, we commend the careful wording of this resolution and its purpose as strictly educational.

6:05:00

Opponents claim this infringes on their free speech.

6:05:01

The resolution does no such thing.

6:05:04

No speech is made illegal, even the ugly speech that the council has unfortunately had to experience today.

6:05:10

Opponents of the resolution can continue to spew hate speech.

6:05:14

This resolution simply educates others that their speech is anti-Semitic.

6:05:20

Two, every minority group in America is given the space to define what they deem to be hateful and to educate the broader community to help create a better society.

6:05:32

The IRA definition and your adoption today for educational purposes reflects our city's desire to embrace all.

6:05:41

And three, your adoption is timely.

6:05:44

This is the most dangerous and disturbing moment for American Jews in my lifetime.

6:05:50

In San Diego, Jews and Jewish institutions are experiencing threats and actual violence.

6:05:57

Just this past week, when we witnessed how anti Semitic anti-Zionism translates into anti Semitic actions with the attempt to drive a uh explosive laden vehicle into a synagogue with a preschool of 140 children.

6:06:13

I can tell you that night, my daughter here in San Diego called me and said, is it safe for me to take your one-year-old grandchild to a mommy me class at a synagogue tomorrow?

6:06:25

Fortunately, our San Diego police department is there to protect our institutions, but it's time for us to call out the kind of hatred that leads to those violent actions.

6:06:35

And so I urge the council today that we must allow.

6:06:39

Thank you.

6:06:40

Sarah Brown.

6:06:42

Sarah Brown, if you can please make your way forward to the microphone, and then Wayne Harris, Faith Klinger, Suzanne Orlovsky, Craig Jones, Valerie Traina, and James Raush.

6:06:53

If you can all please come forward.

6:06:55

Sarah, you have time seated to you by Lauren Guten.

6:06:58

Lauren, if you can please raise your hand.

6:07:03

No, understood.

6:07:04

They do have to be present for the rules, so you do have one minute.

6:07:07

Please proceed.

6:07:08

I can do that.

6:07:11

You can Wayne Harris.

6:07:14

Thank you so much.

6:07:15

You'll have two minutes, please proceed.

6:07:17

Thank you.

6:07:18

As a commissioner on the HRC, a member of the San Diego State University Presidential Task Force on Antisemitism, which already adopted IRA, and the regional director of American Jewish Committee, I am proud of our city council for taking seriously the HRC's unanimous recommendation to adopt the IRA working definition of anti-Semitism.

6:07:41

In our letter, we wrote we write to urge the City of San Diego to adopt the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance working definition of anti-Semitism.

6:07:51

Doing so would be an important step towards strengthening safety and inclusion for Jewish students, families, and communities throughout our city.

6:08:01

The IRA working definition explains that anti-Semitism refers to certain perceptions of Jews that may be expressed through hatred.

6:08:10

These expressions can appear in rhetoric or actions directed at Jewish or non-Jewish individuals, their property, Jewish community institutions, or religious sites.

6:08:20

The definition also includes illustrative examples to help identify how anti-Semitism manifests in practice.

6:08:29

With this definition, that's the end of the quote.

6:08:32

Now it's just back to me.

6:08:33

With this definition, the city can implement lasting education and training initiatives to identify, respond to, and prevent anti-Semitism.

6:08:43

The AJC State of Anti-Semitism 2025 report reveals that over nine in ten American Jews feel less safe right now, with 56% of them changing their behavior due to fear.

6:08:55

31% were personally targeted by anti-Semitism, and 71% reported seeing it online.

6:09:02

We must take action, and this resolution will be part of lasting change to benefit our city, guiding policy, education, and training.

6:09:12

Thank you very much to Councilmember Whitburn for sponsoring this, and to all of you for consideration and leadership.

6:09:17

Vote yes.

6:09:18

Faith Klinger.

6:09:21

Faith Klinger, are you here?

6:09:24

Thank you.

6:09:25

Susan Orlovsky.

6:09:30

Thank you for your honesty and duplicates.

6:09:32

Craig Jones.

6:09:38

A lot of people put in dupes.

6:09:40

Valerie Traina.

6:09:41

Thank you.

6:09:42

And if I can ask James Rausch, Doris Batar, Dan P, Dennis Zee, and Abigail Pasmanik, please to come up to the front row.

6:09:52

Valerie, please proceed.

6:09:54

I'm Valerie Traina District 4.

6:10:00

San Diego must not issue a resolution adopting the IRA working definition of anti-Semitism.

6:10:04

This definition confuses rather than elucidates due to its conflation of criticism of Israel with disparagement of Jews as a whole.

6:10:15

Israel clearly is committing ethnic cleansing and genocide of indigenous Palestinians.

6:10:22

It can't hide behind this definition of anti-Semitism to avoid criticism of its war crimes.

6:10:29

That the city of San Diego believes it should carry water for that apartheid government infuriates me.

6:10:37

City Council represents the residents.

6:10:40

We the people want no part in excusing the genocide of Palestinians by the state of Israel.

6:10:47

Your proposed infringement on our rights to free speech is beyond the pale.

6:10:52

Free Palestine.

6:10:55

James Roush.

6:10:59

Doris Batar.

6:11:03

Okay.

6:11:04

Gentleman with the hat.

6:11:05

Was that you?

6:11:10

Escort him out as well.

6:11:16

Is that what he said?

6:11:17

Yes.

6:11:17

Okay, my apologies then.

6:11:24

Doris Batar, you have time seated to you by Tanya Abraham.

6:11:28

Tanya, if you can please raise your hand.

6:11:31

I believe Tanya.

6:11:32

Thank you.

6:11:32

She's walked in.

6:11:35

She wants to speak herself.

6:11:38

I think.

6:11:39

So you're not, Tanya, you're not ceding your time to Doris.

6:11:42

No.

6:11:43

Okay.

6:11:44

You have two minutes then.

6:11:46

You want to speak.

6:11:47

So then you can't cede your time to me.

6:11:49

Okay.

6:11:50

You'll have one minute, please proceed.

6:11:52

Okay.

6:11:52

I deeply care about the rights of all people, even those I disagree with.

6:11:57

But why was this definition not read?

6:12:00

You took 10 minutes and didn't read the definition because it's plain as can be that it will stifle our speech rights.

6:12:08

My family in Lebanon, originally from the South, have never seen this level of displacement or destruction.

6:12:14

The Israelis have soaked agricultural lands with herbicides and phosphorus, making a million people homeless.

6:12:21

My cousins witnessed smashed infrastructure, the flattening of entire neighborhoods and villages.

6:12:27

Israel lured weary Lebanese refugees to safe zones in Beirut's Corniche, a boardwalk adjacent to the American University of Beirut, near where we lived.

6:12:39

Drones killed many, including children's hours later.

6:12:42

Over a dozen medical workers have been murdered.

6:12:45

If this passes, when I tell my personal story, I will be branded as anti-Semitic.

6:12:51

Please read this.

6:12:53

Read it.

6:12:54

And fix it.

6:12:56

Tanya.

6:13:00

After that is Dan P.

6:13:02

Dennis Z Abigail.

6:13:05

Please proceed.

6:13:06

My name is Tanya Ibrahim, and I'm the resident of District 4.

6:13:10

I urge you to vote no to the IRA definition of anti-Semitism.

6:13:14

I am Semite.

6:13:15

I'm a Semite, a Lebanese Semite, and one of the original Semites.

6:13:20

And the IRA definition of anti-Semitism disregards and minimizes the racism and oppression experienced by Semitic people like me who are not Jewish.

6:13:29

It's especially troubling that the city of San Diego is considering this definition during ongoing violence, including the genocide in Gaza and the continued Israel, US Israeli bombing in Iran and Lebanon, my home country.

6:13:44

Israel has displaced nearly 20% of Lebanon's population.

6:13:49

Israel is targeting civilians and infrastructure.

6:13:52

How many people here who are voting yes for this item have their country, their homeland countries destroyed and bombarded since the day you were born.

6:14:03

How many of you can say this?

6:14:05

And to support by Israel?

6:14:09

By Lebanon.

6:14:11

Your time has concluded.

6:14:13

Your time has concluded.

6:14:14

Your time has concluded.

6:14:16

Dan P, if you can please come forward.

6:14:18

Dan, you have time seeded to you by Nava Sheikh.

6:14:23

Thank you.

6:14:23

And I know that you have something to show up on the screen.

6:14:27

So that is going up on the screen.

6:14:29

We will try to zoom in, but copies are being distributed to the council as well.

6:14:34

Please proceed.

6:14:37

Yes, the council members.

6:14:39

My name is Dan, and I'm resident of San Diego.

6:14:41

Thank you for considering the adoption of IRA resolution.

6:14:45

Several people here came to gaslight you and lie about IRA.

6:14:49

They organized by CARE, organization to support terrorism.

6:14:52

And you hear some of the quote that they uh that they tell their leaders, right?

6:15:00

The argument today is that IRA and Jews are here to infringe on their freedom of speech.

6:15:04

Constitutional speech freedom of speech, right?

6:15:07

So let's look together.

6:15:09

You have a papers there to read.

6:15:11

What IRA actually says.

6:15:14

Nothing in this resolution is intended to, nor shall it be construed to limit or infringe upon rights protected by the United States Constitution or California Constitution, including the right to free speech and expression.

6:15:27

This is what IRA says.

6:15:29

IRA make it clear that adoption does not infringe on free speech.

6:15:33

IRA is intended to be used for educational purposes to call out demonization and delegitimization of Jews.

6:15:41

I'm asking you on behalf of my family and my beautiful Jewish community in San Diego here to adopt IRA.

6:15:51

Thank you.

6:15:53

Next is Dennis Zee.

6:15:56

Dennis Z.

6:15:59

Would you like to sort that element out?

6:16:02

We've got to stay that's under control.

6:16:03

Let everybody speak, let them get their opinion out.

6:16:06

We've still probably got at least another hour, if not more.

6:16:12

Dennis, please proceed.

6:16:15

Hello, Council members.

6:16:17

My name is Dennis, and I live in District 6.

6:16:20

Um thank you, Council Whitburn, for sponsoring the resolution today.

6:16:25

IRA does not impede on free speech.

6:16:28

It is completely constitutional and has been adopted by the United States government.

6:16:33

Healthy debate and criticism of governments and policies are normal part of democratic societies.

6:16:40

People across the political spectrum regularly express opinions about international conflicts, including those involved in Israel.

6:16:49

However, there is an important distinction between criticizing a government and targeting the Jewish people.

6:16:57

Anti-Semitism occurs when individuals or communities are blamed, harassed, or threatened simply because they're Jewish, or when Jewish identity itself becomes the target of hostility.

6:17:10

There are plenty examples of that.

6:17:13

When political anger about events abroad turns into hosting, thank you.

6:17:18

Please support the resolution.

6:17:20

Abigail.

6:17:36

Thank you so much.

6:17:37

We'll get those.

6:17:38

You'll have three minutes, please proceed.

6:17:41

Hello, my name is Ariel Huffetz, and I'm here as a 15-year-old Jewish high school student who has been through many anti-Semitic incidents.

6:18:01

The October 7th tragedy happened when I was set in seventh grade, 12 years old.

6:18:06

I don't think a 12-year-old should have to deal with racial profiling.

6:18:11

I've been told Hitler was right, and that I should have gotten gassed with the rest of my people.

6:18:15

I've been called a dirty Jew and a baby killer.

6:18:19

I've had to go through physical attacks, to physical and violent attacks, one being with four boys who are older than me.

6:18:27

I've been spit on, but luckily I'm still here.

6:18:31

I think some people need me to restate the definition of anti-Semitism.

6:18:35

Anti-Semitism simply means that you hate someone due to the fact that they are Jewish.

6:18:41

That is it.

6:18:42

This isn't about politics.

6:18:44

And some of the people here are proving my point.

6:18:47

This is about mine and the peoples around me's safety.

6:18:57

And I want to feel comfortable with who I am.

6:19:00

I want to feel like everyone else does.

6:19:02

You've seen some of the anti-Semitism anti-Semitic lies being spread against us today.

6:19:07

We defend the rights of every minority without thinking twice because everyone deserves to feel safe.

6:19:12

We just want the right to live in peace.

6:19:14

Why should I have to fight for that?

6:19:16

I wish we could learn from our mistakes.

6:19:18

We say never again, but here we are.

6:19:29

Please vote yes.

6:19:30

Thank you.

6:19:32

Margaret Morgan.

6:19:35

Margaret Morgan, if you're here, Doran Malka, Andy Tremlet, Sylvia Enrique.

6:19:43

We have two for Sylvia, Enrique.

6:19:46

Stacey Lynn Cufeber.

6:19:49

If you can all please come to the front row.

6:19:52

Margaret, you have time seated by Janet K.

6:19:54

Hadeline, if you can please raise your hand.

6:19:57

Janet.

6:19:59

Connie.

6:20:00

Okay, then you'll have one minute.

6:20:04

We'll get that.

6:20:06

Please proceed with your two minutes.

6:20:08

Thank you.

6:20:09

My name is Margaret Morgan.

6:20:10

I'm a San Diego resident of District 2.

6:20:14

Thank you, Stephen Whitburn and Ryan for this amazing presentation today.

6:20:19

And also I'm a non-Jewish ally standing in strong solidarity with my Jewish community and friends.

6:20:27

You've heard the evidence.

6:20:28

Anti-Semitism, it is an unprecedented levels.

6:20:32

It has been clearly established that this definition does not limit free speech.

6:20:37

You've also heard claims about this definition that are simply not true.

6:20:42

That is not debate, that is misinformation.

6:20:45

The question before you is not whether anti-Semitism exists.

6:20:49

The question is whether you will name it clearly or allow it to be blurred.

6:20:53

The IRA definition gives you the ability to draw that line.

6:20:57

History shows us what happens when that line is blurred.

6:21:01

The decision is in your hands and in your hands.

6:21:05

You're each also holding a copy of my father's birth certificate from Germany, stamped with the Nazi insignia as he was born in 1937.

6:21:15

I gave that to you as a reminder.

6:21:18

History is not distanced, distant.

6:21:20

It is shaped by the decision of public officials in moments like this.

6:21:25

Please vote yes while this decision is still in your hands.

6:21:29

Thank you so much.

6:21:35

You have time seated by Miri Ben Nishai.

6:21:38

If you can please raise your hand.

6:21:39

Thank you.

6:21:40

And Laura Lali Froman, please raise your hand.

6:21:45

Lauren Laura Lali From.

6:21:49

Oh, thank you so much.

6:21:50

Three minutes, please proceed.

6:21:52

Good afternoon, Council President and Council members.

6:21:55

My name is Daron Malka, and I'm a member of both the San Diego and the national boards of the Israeli American Council, representing thousands of proud Jewish and Israel American families in our community.

6:22:10

We've seen the numbers of the surge in anti-Semitism in our in our city, in our county.

6:22:18

I have to say I prepared the speech, but I have to say that what you've experienced today, I think our position clearly made our case.

6:22:48

This is the kind of hate we are experiencing every single day.

6:22:52

And you've had just you know an hour or two of it.

6:22:57

Our law enforcement and our civic leaders cannot fight this hate if they don't have a clear definition of what it is and how to protect against it.

6:23:10

The our definition is not construct, is not against free speech, not in any way, just in the way you've explained it, in the way it's written, and the way you've heard so many witnesses for it.

6:23:22

It is clearly and simply a diagnostic tool to identify it, and to give some tools to combat it, to allow our law enforcement to deal with it and to eliminate it.

6:23:37

We hear a lot about we want open debate.

6:23:41

We want a healthy debate.

6:23:43

Of course we want a healthy debate, but the debate that we are asked to do is as long as we're not wearing our yarmaka, as long as we don't speak Hebrew, and don't as long as we don't put our mezzouzas in our pose in our doors, as long as we don't go with our Star of Davids.

6:23:57

Now let's have a debate.

6:24:06

In any form that you can express it.

6:24:24

And establish a standard that will protect your Jewish constituents and the Jewish community overall.

6:24:31

Or you can make the day for those anti-Semitic oppressors who are hoping, praying, that you reject it.

6:24:43

And any word about let's delay it.

6:24:46

It's not a clear, it's not an honest request to delay it.

6:24:51

It's a hope to bury it.

6:24:54

I urge you for that conclusion.

6:24:57

Thank you.

6:24:57

Andy Tremlett.

6:25:03

Today, you are aiming to take a stand against anti Semitism.

6:25:08

That is a noble goal.

6:25:10

But this is not the way.

6:25:13

No country in the world deserves protection from the First Amendment of the Constitution.

6:25:19

Yes, this resolution declares that it doesn't restrict criticism of Israel.

6:25:23

But then it goes on to list specific ways that you can and can't talk about the state.

6:25:29

You can't have your cake and eat it too.

6:25:33

On Saturday, a Palestinian family was driving home after getting sweets and new clothes for the kids.

6:25:44

Killing the mother, the father, and two young boys.

6:25:49

Only two children survived.

6:25:52

Imagine that happening to your family.

6:25:55

Now imagine being one of the surviving kids and hearing that politicians were voting to restrict criticism of the forces who killed your family.

6:26:03

Please do not take a chisel to our rights as Americans.

6:26:09

Sylvia Enrique.

6:26:14

I'm not here to speak.

6:26:16

Please speak when you get up to the microphone so that the Zoom can hear you as well.

6:26:21

I'm sorry.

6:26:22

You'll have one minute, please proceed.

6:26:24

Good afternoon.

6:26:26

Almost going into good evening.

6:26:28

I am here to confess that I was not listed here to speak on this issue.

6:26:37

This divide between we as human beings needs to stop.

6:26:42

And the only way we can do it is to respect each other and respect each other's existence here and respect that all of us, all of us, to some degree in the evolution of this civilization has suffered what you are now.

6:27:02

Brutally suffering.

6:27:04

We have been suffering, I say, for my people.

6:27:07

For thousands of years.

6:27:09

In many ways, but specifically for the last 500 years with the European invasion on this land.

6:27:16

So it is not new.

6:27:18

And I beg everyone, particularly the council, to be inclusive.

6:27:25

To have an egalitarian view.

6:27:27

Thank you for that concluding remark.

6:27:28

And include everyone.

6:27:30

Stacey Lin Keber.

6:27:33

Kiefabur, Stacy Lin, and then Cynthia R.

6:27:37

Connor Duncan, Blair Beekman, Ronit Levy, Stephanie Nissan, David Vidmar.

6:27:46

If you can all please come up to the front row.

6:27:49

Stacy Lynn, you can come up to the microphone if you're here.

6:27:55

Is there no Stacy Lynn?

6:27:59

Cynthia R.

6:28:00

Please come up to the microphone.

6:28:02

Cynthia, you have time seated to you by Terry Naftalin.

6:28:06

Terry, thank you so much.

6:28:07

You'll have two minutes, please proceed.

6:28:12

Honorable council members, thank you for having your agenda, the adoption of the International Holocaust Remembers Remembrance Alliance definition of anti-Semitism.

6:28:20

With anti-Semitism rising, there needs to be a way to define this particular racism in order to combat it.

6:28:27

Protecting all citizens aligns with civility and with our state and local laws, prohibiting discrimination.

6:28:33

Other than the incredible racism against Jews, it would be a non-issue.

6:28:38

But here we are, you have this mob opposing this with their unending hate of Jewish race, religion, and national origin.

6:28:45

And add to that language after the San Jose attacks.

6:28:56

That's what the term was coined.

6:28:58

It's not a separate word or meshing of words.

6:29:00

That's what the word was coined in its meaning to invent.

6:29:03

Imagine you needed an armed guard to go to your church to walk outside to send your kids to preschool.

6:29:09

Imagine needing armed guards to send your kids to preschool because some crazy might come and assassinate your kindergartners or your preschoolers for the crime of being born of Jewish blood.

6:29:22

This definition merely defines the hate.

6:29:26

It doesn't work against anybody, it doesn't act against anybody, it merely defines what anti-Semitism is so that we can combat it.

6:29:35

It is not a double stand when it's a double standard applied to Jews only Jews, that's when when the definition works.

6:30:02

Thank you for protecting all San Diegans and not applying a different standard to Jews.

6:30:06

Thank you for putting this on the agenda.

6:30:08

Please vote yes.

6:30:11

Connor Duncan, if you can please go come forward.

6:30:16

Thank you.

6:30:17

I want to start by saying that I actually do support the vast majority of the IHRA definition, and particularly example number 11, which I think is the most salient example today, which is that Jews are not collectively responsible for the actions of the State of Israel.

6:30:32

That these are two distinct entities.

6:30:35

However, the second half of example seven, example eight, and example ten directly contradict this by saying that any speech in opposition to the state of Israel is a reflection on all Jewish people.

6:30:49

This is, you know, there are 11 examples given here, and it can't even be maintained a degree of consistency across 11 examples.

6:30:58

I would also say that, you know, the rise of anti-Semitism is a very real thing, and I've heard the stories today, and I have been moved by them.

6:31:07

But we do not need to have on one hand the discussion of this and stifled debate of America's role, its relationship with Israel, and the ongoing status quo that I think is unacceptable.

6:31:18

If you don't think comments, your time is examples are designed to curl tails.

6:31:23

Your time has concluded.

6:31:25

Blair Beekman.

6:31:27

After Blair, it's Ronit Levy, Stephanie Nissan, David Widmar, Steven Schneidler, Laurie Lipsmann, Tamar Caspi.

6:31:36

If you can all please come up to the yellow reserve seats.

6:31:39

Blair, please proceed when ready.

6:31:42

Thank you.

6:31:42

Please proceed when ready.

6:31:45

Blair, please proceed.

6:31:46

Hi.

6:31:47

The incident earlier was cleared up.

6:31:49

The woman's going to be released downstairs, thankfully.

6:31:52

I wanted to offer anything I'm trying to say for the majority of my public comment, actually, it isn't in terms of absolute.

6:32:00

I'm trying my best to figure things out along the way.

6:32:14

The ideas of love and diversity, those should be kind of basic things we're all trying to work together towards.

6:32:21

And uh I was for this item at first, and I read I read the guidelines of what it's trying to offer.

6:32:30

Um the guideline process is important.

6:32:32

I use it with the ACLU step or tech accountability.

6:32:36

Um, but I these guidelines, they lack a certain uh human rights aspect to them.

6:32:41

I think it needs to be brought back a full community discussion to work on this together and come up with solutions as a community.

6:32:47

Thank you.

6:32:49

Ronit Levy.

6:32:51

Ronet Levy.

6:32:54

David Vidmar.

6:32:58

Thank you.

6:32:59

And just so you guys know, I do still have to say it for the record.

6:33:01

There could be two people with Joe Smith as the same name.

6:33:04

If they don't come up, then they don't come up.

6:33:06

David Vidmar, Steven Schneidler.

6:33:10

You have time seated to you by Nancy Dossiak.

6:33:13

If you can please raise your hand.

6:33:23

Oh, thank you.

6:33:25

Please proceed.

6:33:26

Good afternoon.

6:33:28

And thank you, Councilmember Whitburn, for bringing this to the city.

6:33:33

I have to say I'm so impressed by all of you to be so patient through this procedure and so open to all of the comments.

6:33:41

My name is Stephen Schindler.

6:33:43

I'm a native San Diegan, a resident of District 3, and importantly, the son of child orphaned Holocaust survivors, Rose and Max Schindler.

6:33:54

I was here with my mom and other survivors in 2018 when the city council adopted on January 27th as International Holocaust Remembrance Day.

6:34:07

I want to thank Council members Moreno for that moment, as well as Councilmember Campbell.

6:34:18

And I just want to share the proclamation with everyone here today.

6:34:39

For those speaking in support of free speech, I hear you.

6:34:43

However, I'd like to share how as a child as a child my family and other Holocaust survivor families who gathered on Sundays at La Jolla Cove during the summer were chased out at the threat of violence by neo-Nazis parading up La Jolla Boulevard.

6:35:00

We never returned to the cove as a family for fear for our safety.

6:35:02

Incidents as dramatic as this seem probable again more than ever without the adoption of this resolution.

6:35:10

Can you imagine how my parents and their survivor friends felt in that moment?

6:35:14

Hate speech and threats crossed the line.

6:35:19

Why is the adoption of this critical?

6:35:21

It creates a shared standardized definition as it has been discussed, and it can guide schools, universities, inform hate crime analysis.

6:35:29

Thank you for that concluding comment.

6:35:31

Was that two minutes?

6:35:32

That was two minutes, yes.

6:35:34

Lori Lipsman.

6:35:38

Two minutes back.

6:35:42

Good afternoon, Council members.

6:35:44

Yesterday I listened to the city's crime report.

6:35:47

Well, while overall crime is down, hate crimes are rising, and we must address this to protect all.

6:35:54

As a second generation Jewish American having experienced anti-Semitism throughout my 70 years, I oppose anti-semitism anti-Semitism and hate in all forms.

6:36:06

But the IHRA definition conflates anti-semitism.

6:36:13

I can't even say it anymore.

6:36:14

Antisemitism with legitimate criticism of the Israeli government putting free speech at risk.

6:36:21

We have laws against harassment, discrimination, and violence.

6:36:24

Anti-synoitism requires education and accountability.

6:36:29

As a district three resident, I urge you to not adopt this.

6:36:33

Thank you.

6:36:36

Tamar Caspi, if you can please come forward.

6:36:39

You have people seeding you time.

6:36:40

Leslie Caspi, if you can please raise your hand, as well as Jordan Rosenfeld.

6:36:45

Jordan left, but have a going to I believe you already seated time, but we'll double check.

6:36:52

Please proceed.

6:36:54

Hi, my name is Tamar Caspi, a proud resident of District 7, home of Hanukkah Hill.

6:37:00

Again, all these testimonies are exactly why we need this.

6:37:04

This is gaslighting.

6:37:06

They're making our case for us by criticizing Israel to justify anti-Semitism here and purposefully misconstruing the definition of anti-Semitism.

6:37:16

All of these kafiyas and watermelons are symbols calling for the genocide of Jews.

6:37:21

It is very triggering for me, especially as we just got word the couple was just killed in Israel by a rocket from Iran.

6:37:31

Please don't leave, Henry.

6:37:33

I am a co-founder of Pier K-12, advocating for Jewish students' parents and teachers' civil rights in K 312 schools throughout San Diego.

6:37:42

We have students, parents, and teachers calling us daily with concerns about anti-Semitism on campus.

6:37:48

But without a definition of anti-Semitism, it is that much harder for us to fight it and get consequences for bad behavior.

6:37:55

Forget about trying to prevent it.

6:37:57

These past few weeks, while everyone else was proudly wearing their Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico and Italy and of course USA baseball hats to school, Jewish kids were scared to wear their Team Israel hats.

6:38:09

Those that did had them knocked off their heads.

6:38:11

They were called baby killers and genociders.

6:38:13

Not only are these lies being perpetuated, but these young kids are being blamed for the false actions of a government halfway around the world that they have no control over.

6:38:22

That would fall under the definition of IRA and allow students to advocate for themselves and their civil rights.

6:38:28

This Keepa doesn't have a Star of David on it or an Israeli flag on it.

6:38:32

So why are students that wear it at public schools in San Diego getting beat beat up and berated in hallways and classrooms under the guise of hating Bibi or being against war?

6:38:41

That would fall under IRA as well.

6:38:43

And this student would be able to advocate for themselves and their civil rights.

6:38:46

This is happening in K-12 public private independent schools around San Diego every day.

6:38:52

If you deny Israel's right to exist, hold all Jews responsible for Israel's actions, or single out the Jewish state with double standards, that is anti-Semitism.

6:39:01

And IRA helps us to find that.

6:39:04

Please adopt IRA so that more power, more people can be empowered to stand up against anti-Semitism.

6:39:11

Thank you.

6:39:19

Hannah Lebron, is Tamara Litke here?

6:39:23

Did you want to cede your time to someone else or speak?

6:39:29

Thank you.

6:39:30

I will have it here.

6:39:32

Tate Schwarin.

6:39:35

Please come forward.

6:39:37

Robert D.

6:39:38

Hernandez, Roberto D.

6:39:39

Hernandez, Patricia Gracian, Rose Markowitz, and Grace Rojas Jimenez, all please come up to the yellow.

6:39:49

She was ceding her time to me.

6:39:51

But you already spoke, sir.

6:39:52

We don't go back.

6:39:53

It's not a backseason thing.

6:39:55

Sorry.

6:39:57

Good try, though.

6:40:00

Tate uh Schworn, please come up.

6:40:07

Good evening.

6:40:08

Shame on you, Councilman Whitburn.

6:40:11

This definition is ridiculous and harms the fight against anti-Semitism.

6:40:16

The IRA website gave examples of anti-Semitic acts implied from the definition.

6:40:21

An example is denying the Jewish people the right to their self-determination by claiming that the state of Israel is a racist project.

6:40:30

I think that any state that uses segregated highways like Road 4370 in Israel-occupied West Bank is a racist project on par with Jim Crow America.

6:40:44

But according to the IRA definition, I just committed an act of anti-Semitism on par with slander against our Jewish neighbors.

6:40:54

Surely you can see how this disarms the fight against anti-Semitism and enables genocide at the same time.

6:41:02

Align with humanity and the oppressed, vote no on this resolution.

6:41:07

Thank you.

6:41:10

Roberto Hernandez.

6:41:12

Roberto Hernandez, are you here?

6:41:15

Thank you.

6:41:15

Patricia Garcia.

6:41:19

Patricia Gracian, you actually had already ceded time to somebody else.

6:41:23

So I will marry your slip.

6:41:25

Rose Markowitz.

6:41:29

Hello.

6:41:30

My name is Rose Markowitz, and I am a Drew.

6:41:33

I'm a Jew, and I strongly oppose this resolution.

6:41:37

As you've heard so many times today, anti-Semitism and Zionism are distinct.

6:41:42

Zionists do not speak for all Jews.

6:41:46

Zionism is a shanda.

6:41:48

It is racism.

6:41:49

It is colonization.

6:41:50

It commits genocide.

6:41:52

The resolution censors my right as a Jew to voice this opinion freely.

6:41:57

An ethno state sustained by obscene amounts of violence is not moral and it is not Jewish.

6:42:05

Displacing people from their homes is not moral and it is not Jewish.

6:42:10

An apartheid state where access to food, water, and medicine is regulated and often denied by a hostile government is not moral and it is not Jewish.

6:42:27

The definition must exclude anything that conflates Judaism and Zionism.

6:42:32

Please concludes your time.

6:42:34

Thank you, Rose.

6:42:35

Grace Rojas Jimenez, Grace Rojas Jimenez, are you here?

6:42:40

Grace Rojas Jimenez.

6:42:42

Jopsi Gomez.

6:42:45

J I A P S I Gomez.

6:42:49

Jabsi Gomez, Octavio Sifuentes.

6:42:53

Please come forward.

6:42:55

And then after that we have Lalo Subrela Daman Hall, I think.

6:43:03

Philip Ginsberg, Julie Corrales, please make your way up to the front row.

6:43:08

Anthony Ralphs and Elijah Bradford, all please come up to the front row.

6:43:13

Octavio, please proceed.

6:43:16

Good evening, everyone.

6:43:18

Sorry, please speak into the microphone.

6:43:20

Sorry, it's a little low.

6:43:22

Good evening, everyone.

6:43:23

My name is Octavio Sifuentes.

6:43:25

I'm a Navy veteran, resident of District One, uh graduate student uh at the University of San Diego, and the president of the local chapter of Veterans for Peace.

6:43:36

I'm here to ask you to vote no on S500 as the IRA definition was never designed to be used as a binding definition of anti-Semitism, nor to be adopted as legislation.

6:43:49

The creators of the working definition have since abandoned it due to its flawed framework, but it has since been weaponized to silence any critique of Israel.

6:44:00

The rise in hate in this uh country is deeply concerning, and it pains me to hear the stories that I heard uh today.

6:44:10

So it would be great to see this city uh take the lead on real change by passing a resolution that actually addresses the problem.

6:44:20

Uh so I ask you to not perpetuate the cycle of hate and vote no on it.

6:44:27

Thank you for your time.

6:44:28

Lalo.

6:44:30

Lalo, if you can please come forward.

6:44:32

Are you here?

6:44:34

Lalo.

6:44:36

There was um Sevier, if you you were ceding time to Lalo.

6:44:41

Did you want to speak?

6:44:42

S E V I E R, I believe.

6:44:46

Okay, moving on.

6:44:48

Subrin Subraila.

6:44:55

My name is Sabrina, and I'm a resident of the San Diego City.

6:45:00

I strongly oppose the adoption of the IRA definition of anti-Semitism.

6:45:02

The IRA bill does not address anti-semitism, but rather conflates anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism.

6:45:08

Conflating the two creates dangerous precedent for cr and criminalizes any legitimate critique of Israel.

6:45:14

Criticism that is protected under our first amendment right to free speech, a right we see being criminalized all across this nation under this administration.

6:45:23

Voices supporting Palestinian human rights will be targeted, harassed, and doxed if we adopt this resolution.

6:45:28

Adopting this resolution will set precedent for criminalizing and violating free speech.

6:45:32

It's your responsibility to take a stand and ensure that free speech for all San Diego residents is protected and ensured for all San Diego residents.

6:45:42

Thank you.

6:45:44

Um R R.

6:45:49

My name is Farida.

6:45:51

So I'm gonna start.

6:45:52

I strongly oppose this resolution.

6:45:55

It is disgusting and abhorrent that during the holy month of Ramadan, we are forced, and that's why there aren't more Muslims and Arabs and Palestinians in this room.

6:46:03

Not just because someone was detained and arrested violently, and we had to leave and deal with that while fasting, but because the city continues to choose times while our people are bleeding and struggling, while Iran is being bombed with US strikes, while Lebanon is being razed and demolished, while Gaza is facing starvation, emaciation, massacre, ethnic cleansing.

6:46:25

Call it whatever you want.

6:46:27

You all can read.

6:46:28

You all know what the definition says.

6:46:30

Don't play dumb.

6:46:31

We are not dumb.

6:46:32

You were not voted into these positions to pretend that you don't know what this definition says.

6:46:37

So we will continue to stand in opposition whether you pass it or not.

6:46:40

And we will continue to organize.

6:46:41

And all of these comments of people being so confused about what the definition says shows that it was never meant to be used in this way.

6:46:49

And I will continue to critique Israel until I die because Israel is the boot that it's cleansing the Middle East.

6:46:57

Your time has burning all of our people.

6:47:00

Your time has concluded, Philip.

6:47:10

Please proceed.

6:47:12

Please proceed.

6:47:16

Hello.

6:47:21

I have then these people in the center are calling a teacher at Paris.

6:47:27

They call my nerves.

6:47:33

Okay, okay.

6:47:34

Settle down.

6:47:36

Settle down.

6:47:42

Settle down.

6:47:46

It's not double standards.

6:47:48

My actions are about being disruptive to the conduct of the meeting.

6:47:52

If people say things quietly from one to another, I despise that.

6:47:57

I condemn that, but we're talking about disrupting the meeting.

6:48:01

It's not about political, it's not about picking sides, it's about being disruptive.

6:48:06

And they have an anti-GNA, why is it that the people it will I would condemn that, but as long as you're not disrupting the meeting, that's my responsibility.

6:48:17

And that's exactly why we're having this conversation today.

6:48:21

Congratulations to San Diego.

6:48:23

I'm going home.

6:48:27

Philip Ginsburg, if we can proceed.

6:48:29

Philip Ginsberg, please proceed.

6:48:31

You have a minute.

6:48:32

Council members, I'm sorry to have participated, precipitated that.

6:48:36

Thank you for uh considering this resolution.

6:48:39

I'm speaking in favor of this resolution.

6:48:42

I've been a resident of San Diego County since 1973.

6:48:46

I happen to be in the district of council president.

6:48:50

Uh you've heard stories, and I have a story.

6:48:53

It's a small story.

6:48:55

I'm uh I'm 74 years young.

6:48:58

I've been married to my lovely wife for 55 years.

6:49:02

Do you see the star David I'm wearing?

6:49:08

She will not go out with me if I'm wearing that star of David.

6:49:14

I can't wear it.

6:49:16

She's afraid that someone's gonna come up and punch me.

6:49:20

Or punch her.

6:49:22

Please.

6:49:23

I implore, time is right.

6:49:26

Vote yes on S500.

6:49:30

Thank you.

6:49:32

Next is Julie Corales.

6:49:35

Julie Corales, if you're still here.

6:49:38

Anthony Rouse, if you can please come up.

6:49:42

After that, Elijah Bradford, Chris Lopez, Liam Stanton, Kayla, Timothy Dombrowski, Leia, Gavin Sklar, and then Leette Cohen Reese is our last speaker here in Council Chambers.

6:49:58

Please proceed.

6:50:00

Hello, Council, good afternoon.

6:50:02

I think we're all familiar with the saying sticks and stones can break my bones, but words can't bring back all the slain Palestinians that have been erased from the genocide that's actively going on.

6:50:13

And what I want to know is why Zionism gets to claim a monopoly on Semitism when we know that Palestinians are Semites too.

6:50:21

Yet this definition does not include Palestinians or any other people of Arabic descent in it.

6:50:28

And that's why it's flawed.

6:50:29

And that's why I'm speaking in opposition to it today, is because we know, those of us that have studied history, that Israel is a colonial apartheid settler state that was founded on the premise of reparations for the Holocaust.

6:50:42

By that same standard, if reparations for Holocaust are the basis for creating a nation, this nation would be more appropriately named the United States of Native Americans.

6:50:52

But it's not.

6:50:53

And there was 50 million Native Americans killed in this country, and they're not around today to state that they deserve a nation of their own.

6:51:01

Or that their time has concluded.

6:51:05

Your time has concluded.

6:51:06

Don't go away.

6:51:07

Come back.

6:51:07

Is this nice lady giving you another minute?

6:51:10

Is that what why you're standing there with your hand up?

6:51:12

I have not been called that.

6:51:16

No, I listed about 10 individuals still.

6:51:19

We'll go and call.

6:51:20

Thank you, and sorry.

6:51:22

Elijah Bradford.

6:51:27

Good afternoon, Council.

6:51:29

Uh, my name is Lija Bradford.

6:51:30

I'm here representing uh Veterans for Peace, recently separated Marine Corps veteran of five years, and uh I served with Marines and sailors that were Jewish, Arab, that followed Judaism, that followed Islam, and I cherish all of them, and I would stand up for all of them if they were discriminated against.

6:51:48

Um but I'm here to say that we should vote no on this prop.

6:51:53

And the reason is it very clearly conflicts anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism, which is not the same.

6:52:02

And I will say that the plight of the Jewish people is not one that is unique.

6:52:06

There's genocides and there has been Holocaust against black and brown people multiple times throughout history, so that is not an excuse to somehow get preferential treatment.

6:52:15

And I'll also say that council, no matter what happens today, one day people like me, my age, are gonna be in your seats.

6:52:23

Remember that.

6:52:23

Remember that you work for us.

6:52:25

And no matter what you do today, once we get in power, this will be fixed.

6:52:29

Remember that.

6:52:30

Chris Lopez.

6:52:36

How's everyone doing?

6:52:37

I'm Chris Lopez.

6:52:38

I am a proud union representative and co-host of the Union or Bus Podcast.

6:52:44

And um in the labor movement, we care about people we don't know.

6:52:49

That's the probably the crutch of the labor movement.

6:52:52

That's the foundation that holds everything up.

6:52:57

When I was a young dad, I was about 28.

6:53:02

I took my daughters to the zoo and we had to go see a cheetah cage.

6:53:05

There's a big cage, you know, that trees in there and everything, but I'll never forget for the rest of my life there was a dog, a golden retriever in that cage with the cheetah.

6:53:13

And it was barking at that chicken, the cheetah was all scared, and the I asked the zoo guy, what's going on?

6:53:18

You told me that the cheetah thinks the dog is dominant.

6:53:22

Because the cheetah was born in captivity.

6:53:25

So I asked all the council members, remember who you are.

6:53:28

You're part of the labor movement.

6:53:30

San Diego Imperial County Labor Council, we declared a genocide.

6:53:34

We declared Israel as an apartheid state.

6:53:36

And I asked you, just remember who you are.

6:53:41

Thank you.

6:53:41

Liam Stanton.

6:53:44

Liam Stanton, if you're here.

6:53:46

Okay, thank you.

6:53:48

After that, we have Kayla, Timothy Dombrowski, Leah, Gavin Sklart, Julianne Gustison.

6:53:57

If you can all please come forward to the reserve seats.

6:54:00

Please proceed, Liam.

6:54:02

Thank you, Councilman and Women.

6:54:03

It's been a long day.

6:54:04

Glad everyone's still standing or sitting.

6:54:06

Um first and foremost, I'd like to say that all hateful acts against any person and all violence inflicted against any human being in whatever form or way or shape it's taken, is obviously contemptible and unacceptable.

6:54:20

The hideous and truly anti-Semitic actions that we've seen in Michigan and around the world are worthy of condemnation from all insoled people, including me, even as an opponent of this resolution.

6:54:33

And children, especially, are most especially off limits.

6:54:38

That being said, the IRA definition of anti-Semitism is clearly overly broad and incompatible with the free speech standards of a free people.

6:54:47

And um, in particular, the points um amounting to uh prohibition on criticizing Israel for being in its methods genocidal or likened to a state which is ethnically racist, are obviously beyond the pale.

6:55:04

I urge no on this resolution.

6:55:06

Our time has concluded.

6:55:07

Kayla.

6:55:09

K E I L A.

6:55:10

Kayla, are you here?

6:55:13

Timothy Dabrowski.

6:55:22

Please proceed.

6:55:24

It is unacceptable and unreasonable to hold the group the uh uh one group to a different standard than another.

6:55:32

No country, no state has the right to exist.

6:55:36

They exist.

6:55:37

I am not being anti-Christian when I criticize the anti-trans rhetoric of this country.

6:55:43

I am not being anti-Islamic when I criticize the slavery practices in the UAE, because those do not represent those religions.

6:55:54

We cannot use a standard that calls one group different from the other, which is built into that IHRA definition.

6:56:05

It is self um contradictory and therefore is inappropriate to use.

6:56:14

Leah.

6:56:16

Leah, are you here?

6:56:19

Gavin Sklur.

6:56:21

There is no last name, it just says Leah.

6:56:27

Gavin Sklar.

6:56:30

Thank you.

6:56:30

And then Julianne, you'll be after Leah.

6:56:34

Just need you to come make sure you're up at the front row.

6:56:37

And Lyot Cohen Reese.

6:56:40

Please come up to the yellow reserve seats.

6:56:42

Please proceed.

6:56:44

Can I start?

6:56:45

Yeah.

6:56:45

Hi, my name is Leah.

6:56:47

I am a Jewish San Diegan.

6:56:49

And you've heard a lot today, a lot of words.

6:56:52

Um, I'm just here to remind you that we've been watching for over two years a genocide inflicted by Israel.

6:56:59

Okay, so people want to be able to get in the streets.

6:57:03

They want to be able to speak about this.

6:57:05

And your job is to not infringe upon people's freedom of speech.

6:57:10

Okay, so before you feel like you have to respond to the Israel lobby to APAC, you know, we have we heard from the president or whatever of AIPAC, the ADL.

6:57:22

You work for us, okay?

6:57:24

You do not work for the Israel lobby.

6:57:27

You work for your American constituents, people who live here in San Diego.

6:57:32

So start working for us, okay.

6:57:35

Start working for us, and don't throw Jews under the bus because we don't all think what these few people here think.

6:57:43

Okay.

6:57:44

Thank you.

6:57:46

Julianne, if you can please come up.

6:57:52

Good afternoon.

6:57:53

Thank you for allowing me to speak.

6:57:55

You see this t-shirt here.

6:57:58

Okay.

6:58:01

It says Gaza.

6:58:02

I was in Gaza in 2009.

6:58:05

After Israel had killed over 1,500 people.

6:58:09

About 300 and some were burned alive with white phosphorus.

6:58:14

I got home and I had PTSD.

6:58:17

I couldn't talk about it for about three or four weeks.

6:58:20

I went back to the West Bank this time, and it was 2011.

6:58:26

Again, I should not have gone because I couldn't deal with it.

6:58:29

I was supposed to be there six weeks.

6:58:30

I was I got home after three weeks.

6:58:33

All I'm saying is that I will be darned if you will close my mouth and not be able to say what I heard, what I saw, which was very traumatic and horrible.

6:58:48

I should be allowed to speak and say what I saw that it was horrible.

6:58:54

Thank you.

6:58:56

Please read.

6:58:57

Liot Cohen Reese.

6:59:01

You have time ceded to you by Giovanni Sorentino.

6:59:05

Yeah.

6:59:05

Thank you.

6:59:06

You'll have two minutes, and I know we have a video for you.

6:59:10

Yes.

6:59:10

Did you want to speak first?

6:59:11

Yes.

6:59:12

Thank you.

6:59:12

Please proceed.

6:59:13

Good evening, Council, and thank you so much, Councilmember Whitburn, for sponsoring the vote today.

6:59:19

I am Liat Cohen Reese, the director of the anti-Semitism Task Force at Stand with us, and I would love to please share a video with you.

6:59:32

Never begins with the gas chambers.

6:59:34

It begins with words that make evil feel righteous.

6:59:37

The Jews.

6:59:38

Hitler was right.

6:59:39

It begins with Jewish buildings defaced.

6:59:41

Swasticas in the night, just like 1938.

6:59:44

It begins with mobs and campus sieges in San Diego.

6:59:47

Anti-Semitic incidents exploded.

6:59:49

139 reported in 2024 alone, rising in 2025.

6:59:54

At UCSD, masked protesters surrounded events, pounded doors, and chanted death to Jews.

7:00:00

At the Legacy International Center, Jews' cars were surrounded and attacked.

7:00:03

At a downtown Gala, Jews were harassed.

7:00:06

In downtown San Diego, an Israeli man was beaten for speaking Hebrew.

7:00:10

In El Cahon, the Jewish doctor was murdered.

7:00:12

In the Mesa, hundreds of anti-Semitic flyers spread.

7:00:15

At Chabad of Pawe, Jews were murdered while praying.

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We have seen this before.

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In the 1930s, the world called it protest.

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Then came six million dead.

7:00:23

Adopt the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism.

7:00:26

Name the evil.

7:00:27

Protect your Jewish neighbors.

7:00:29

History will remember how you vote.

7:00:35

Our last speaker is Charles Hellington.

7:00:39

Charles Hellingston.

7:00:44

For those on the virtual, now is the time to please be sure to raise your hand.

7:00:47

The five-minute timer will be starting.

7:00:49

And if you do not have your hand raised within those five minutes, your comments will not be taken.

7:00:53

Please proceed.

7:00:55

Hello.

7:00:59

I think it's really important that we make a distinguishment between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism.

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As we know, there are horrible things going on in our world today.

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One by an ideology.

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That is conflating the Jewish identity with atrocities being done.

7:01:29

This must be allowed to be distinguished and allow for discourse to go unabated from suppression of those voicing our First Amendment and allowing us to have public discourse on these matters.

7:01:50

Thank you so much.

7:01:52

Thank you.

7:01:53

I'm sorry, the five-minute timer and we'll go to those participating remotely before I too before I do.

7:01:58

I just wanted to note for the record that we did receive 20 speakers' lips in favor that registered their position but did not wish to speak, as well as four speakers' lips in opposition that registered their position but did not wish to speak.

7:02:10

And we did receive 271 comments in favor and 169 comments in opposition via our e-comment form, which have been distributed to the council.

7:02:18

Starting with those participating online, we currently have 44 speakers in the queue with their hands raised, starting with Nadia, if you can please unmute.

7:02:26

Nadia Hi.

7:02:29

Can you hear me?

7:02:30

Yes, please proceed.

7:02:32

First, I'd like to highlight how many Zionist speakers admitted that the IR definition conflates anti-Semitism with anti-Zionism.

7:02:38

Second, I want to emphasize that anti-Palestinian and anti-Muslim hate and censorship is also on the rise.

7:02:43

Third, the fact that the Stand with Me video showed the Palestinian flag in their video to support the definition makes it crystal clear of its intent.

7:02:51

But now I want to list as many lawsuits as I can get through, which show how the IRA definition is already being used and invoked to censor and discipline Palestinian-related speech.

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There are over 15.

7:03:02

Woodcock versus University of Kentucky, George Mason University.

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Student speech censored under IRA definition.

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Professor Discipline Threat, University of Michigan.

7:03:14

Federal lawsuit targeting professors, San Francisco State University.

7:03:17

Classroom investigation, George Washington University.

7:03:19

Speaker event censored Arizona State University.

7:03:38

I'm sorry, your time has concluded.

7:03:40

Nicole Howard, after that is umyra and then Shalem.

7:03:46

Omira, please unmute.

7:03:49

Hi, this is Hamira Yusufie with PANA.

7:03:52

I'm calling to urge the council to vote no on the adoption of the IRA definition.

7:03:57

Jewish communities deserve safety and protection from hate and discrimination, as do all communities, and council should take hate crimes very seriously.

7:04:04

However, civil rights organizations have warned that the IRA definition has been used in ways that conflate anti-Semitism with any criticism of Israel.

7:04:13

This definition is overly broad and incorrectly equates protected political speech with the with discrimination.

7:04:19

I urge you to look at the examples in the definition yourself and test it.

7:04:22

Israel is killing children and starving them, similar to Nazi Germany.

7:04:26

This statement is a fact.

7:04:28

However, under this definition, it would be considered anti-Semitic to make this criticism of the state of Israel.

7:04:33

Criticism of any government is political speech protected under under the First Amendment.

7:04:38

San Diego has the opportunity to make a more thoughtful approach.

7:04:42

There are more accurate and beneficial alternative definitions of anti-Semit Semitism that address the harm directly and centered Jewish voices.

7:04:51

I urge you to look at those.

7:05:00

Shalemabudes, I'm a Jewish constituent of Council Member Whitburns.

7:05:03

I urge you to vote no on adopting the IRA definition of anti-Semitism.

7:05:08

Anti-Semitism is real and ever present, especially in moments following acts of violence like the one we all saw last week.

7:05:14

As a parent, I felt this acutely when I sent my son to Jewish Sunday school this past week.

7:05:20

And I entrusted him with his teachers and security staff.

7:05:23

That's why I'm speaking here today.

7:05:25

Jewish safety is strongest in a healthy democracy where the rights and dignity of all people are protected.

7:05:30

A more effective approach is one that confronts anti-Semitism while allowing for open dialogue and accountability.

7:05:36

One example is a framework offered by the Jewish Declaration on Antisemitism.

7:05:40

There are better paths forward to protect the Jewish community.

7:05:43

I urge you to vote no and pursue approaches that strengthen democracy, address real anti-Semitism, and support communities impacted by hate, including racism, transphobia, xenophobia, and Islamophobia.

7:05:56

Our safety and our future are bound together.

7:05:58

Thank you.

7:06:00

Next is activist, if you can please unmute.

7:06:06

Oh, hi.

7:06:07

This is for Francis Yasmine Motiwala.

7:06:10

Um first, I want to say I also um abhor anti-Semitism and don't think it has a place in our society.

7:06:19

Uh, but none of us who came here today to speak against this resolution came here because we don't we hate Jews.

7:06:25

That's just not true.

7:06:27

Um, first, I want to um, you know, state that this resolution uh clearly, if it is passed, is gonna lead to confusion because we've already heard folks who are speaking in support of it, say that somehow the remarks that others made opposed it or somehow hateful or hates construed as hate speech.

7:06:50

I don't see how they can clear claim that.

7:06:53

Um it seems like they're taking it personally.

7:06:56

Our criticisms of the Zionist settler state, uh, they're taken personally, so that's weird.

7:07:01

Uh and also we gotta be anti-settler.

7:07:04

I mean, is this what is anti-settler?

7:07:05

Where does that fall in this?

7:07:06

Um curious.

7:07:08

That does conclude your time.

7:07:09

And that also concludes the five-minute timer here in Council Chambers.

7:07:13

We have uh 46 speakers with their hands raised.

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No additional speakers will be taken.

7:07:18

Uh Liza, if you can please unmute.

7:07:28

Eliza, you are unmuted.

7:07:30

We cannot hear you here in Council Chambers.

7:07:35

Maybe the device that you're speaking into is muted.

7:07:38

I will have to move on if you cannot fix your technical difficulties.

7:07:44

Can you hear me now?

7:07:45

We can hear you now.

7:07:46

Please proceed.

7:07:48

Okay.

7:07:48

Thank you.

7:07:49

I'm Aliza Lewin, president of U.S.

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Affairs for the Combat Anti-Semitism Movement.

7:07:53

I'm an attorney with over 30 years of experience countering religious discrimination, and I urge you to adopt the IRA definition.

7:08:00

One of our greatest challenges is that many people are unable to distinguish between a good faith political debate about the Middle East on the one hand and the vilification of Jews on the other.

7:08:10

They mistakenly think that when the term Israel or Zionist is mentioned, that it's about politics, not Jews.

7:08:16

They fail to recognize that the overwhelming majority of Jews see themselves as part of a people with a shared ancestral heritage rooted in the land of Israel.

7:08:25

Today, those who recognize that the Jews are a people indigenous to Israel, are branded as Zionists, blamed for the world's misfortune and treated as pariahs.

7:08:35

Those who target Zionists want you to believe it's about politics, but it's not.

7:08:38

For example, the men who were beaten up in San Jose last week were not targeted for their political opinions.

7:08:43

They were targeted because they were speaking Hebrew.

7:08:46

The IRA definition provides a framework for recognizing Jew hatred and distinguishing the people.

7:08:50

Your time has concluded.

7:08:52

Next is Zoom user, if you can please unmute.

7:09:01

That's Trump hateism.

7:09:03

You got a disease for that.

7:09:04

It's called TDS, man.

7:09:07

Trump delusional syndrome or whatever it is.

7:09:10

What disease do the Jews have?

7:09:13

If you're older, if you're a Jew and you're older, there's a reason why everyone hates you because you're bombing the fuck out of people and killing them just like they did at the Holocaust.

7:09:25

Little lung kids that you're killed with a 6,000 pound bomb.

7:09:29

Maybe it's appropriate for somebody to spit at your kid and call them few names when he's in junior high school.

7:09:35

You want a bomb on your house?

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Or do you want to be spit on?

7:09:39

You know, you gotta, it's not like coming out of nowhere.

7:09:41

This Jew hatred.

7:09:42

Hector, I think it's kind of crossing the line.

7:09:45

Please dial it back.

7:09:47

You've got some good points to make, but please dial it back.

7:09:51

One more second.

7:09:53

I have unmuted you again.

7:10:00

Okay, uh I did use the I I actually uh shopped at uh Rose Fabrics going to high school, and I I met uh the guy's mom, Rose is a very sweet person in the 70s.

7:10:11

Your time has concluded now.

7:10:13

Amanda, if you can please unmute.

7:10:17

Yes.

7:10:20

Um I urge you to vote no on item S500.

7:10:23

I volunteered in Gaza last year, treating hundreds of patients, all deliberately targeted infants, children, the elderly dying from starvation, infections, and bombs, as well as shrapnel and severe burns, also coming in agony due to the Israeli blockade preventing medical aid.

7:10:43

These attacks are systematic, ongoing still, and meet the factual threshold of genocide.

7:10:49

Hundred hundreds of professionals, including myself have submitted documentation to the ICC, actively pursuing prosecutions for these Israeli war crimes.

7:10:58

So criticism of Israel is not anti-Semitism.

7:11:01

Weaponizing this term silences human rights advocacy and suppresses free speech.

7:11:06

This bill is deeply discriminatory, normalizing bias.

7:11:09

So let me be clear.

7:11:21

Please vote no.

7:11:22

Your time has concluded.

7:11:23

Ikbal, if you can please unmute Ikbal.

7:11:29

Uh pop-up should have come up for you to unmute.

7:11:34

If you can unmute, I will have to move on.

7:11:36

I can't unmute for you.

7:11:37

IQBAL.

7:11:42

I will need to move on.

7:11:44

We trend, if you can please unmute.

7:11:53

We trend.

7:11:55

I can't unmute for you.

7:11:56

A pop-up should have come up.

7:12:00

I will need to move on if you there you go.

7:12:04

Thanks, but for you on you and I already know each other.

7:12:07

We can hear you, please proceed.

7:12:16

Hi, my name is Week Chen, and I'm expecting directly.

7:12:20

I'm sitting in this conversation today with a lot of reflection, and we'll just try to be now how to balance this conversation because on one side we do have to, you know, call out anti-semitism.

7:12:35

But at the same time, how do we also not using the language that will blocking people from you know criticizing Israel because the thing that we see in the world right now happening coming out of that government is not acceptable.

7:12:52

I don't know anybody be able to go to sleep watching children being murdered, the entire population being wiped out.

7:12:58

Please consider either chain language or vote known on that item.

7:13:02

Thank you.

7:13:04

Thank you.

7:13:04

Next is Azra, if you can please unmute Azra.

7:13:10

Hi, my name is Azam, and I'm a constituent of District 2.

7:13:13

I'm also survivor of the Bosnian genocide.

7:13:17

Seven out of the 11 examples in our age are a definition focused on Israel, which shields the state of Israel from accountability and confuses criticism of Israel policy with anti-Semitism.

7:13:29

Respected organizations such as Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and UN investigators have accused Israel of accident of genocide.

7:13:43

It's much especially while they're committing a genocide.

7:13:45

Please vote no.

7:13:47

Thank you.

7:13:48

Thank you.

7:13:49

Next is Jonathan.

7:13:50

If you can please unmute.

7:13:55

Jonathan, I can't unmute.

7:13:56

There you go.

7:13:57

Here we go.

7:13:58

Hi, I just want to say I emphasize completely with those in our community experiencing acts of hate.

7:14:02

I have force anti-Semitism and attacks on people for their identities.

7:14:06

It's because I have poor these attacks on these innocent people that I urge the council to reject this IRA definition.

7:14:12

Inflating anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism as the definition does, I believe will worsen the attacks on Jewish people locally as the state of Israel acts without restraint in its violence against the other countries in the Middle East.

7:14:24

They are committing internationally recognized acts of genocide against the Palestinian people, particularly against women and children.

7:14:56

Thank you.

7:14:58

Adam, if you can please unmute.

7:15:00

If you're raising your hand, the five-minute timer has already concluded.

7:15:03

We won't be taking those additional speakers, but you can always email in to City Clerk at Sandiego.gov and your comments will be distributed.

7:15:10

Adam, please proceed.

7:15:12

Hi, my name is Adam, and I strongly recommend you all to listen to the majority of your constituents.

7:15:18

Protect our rights and oppose this proposition.

7:15:20

Enough has been said about the atrocities Israel has and continues to commit.

7:15:25

Please recon choices now as elections up.

7:15:28

Oppose S500, free San Diego from Zionism and free Palestine.

7:15:32

Thank you.

7:15:34

Chris, if you can please unmute.

7:15:39

Chris Masias, please unmute.

7:15:40

There you go.

7:15:42

Hi.

7:15:43

My name is Chris Pro Masias.

7:15:45

I am a concerned citizen in opposition to S500.

7:15:50

Uh I've heard a lot of character characterizations about myself, but please know I come from a place of love.

7:15:57

The one thing that comes to mind is the fact that this is a working definition.

7:16:03

You wouldn't eat uh a meal that was a work in progress, would you?

7:16:07

So why would we rush to something that is still being worked out?

7:16:11

That said, um it has been shown that this has been abused in other uh areas, and I think it's of real concern.

7:16:23

Um the uh types of behavior that has been experienced by this community is abhorrent, and I hate and I do not condone it, but that is unfortunately the reality of being a minority here in America.

7:16:37

We must bind together, and please vote no.

7:16:39

Thank you.

7:16:44

I strongly oppose the adoption of the IRE definition of anti-Semitism.

7:16:49

IRAD doesn't address real anti-Semitism, but rather conflates anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism.

7:16:56

This is dangerous because it increased the risks of anti-Semitism violence by associating all Jewish people with Israel.

7:17:03

And you heard from several Jewish community members who also voice their opposition to this definition.

7:17:09

As was mentioned, seven of the 11 examples in the IRA definition involves shielding Israel, an apartheid genocidal state from accountability, falsely assuming that all people hold the same views on Israel and Zionism.

7:17:25

Why is the city of San Diego preventing critique of a foreign government when critique of the US is allowed?

7:17:33

And also the IRI definition has a lack of validity.

7:17:36

It was never designed to be used as the binding definition of anti-Semitism, nor adopted into legislation or policy.

7:17:44

The creators of the working definition.

7:17:49

Thank you.

7:17:49

Your time has concluded.

7:17:50

Alex, if you can please unmute my name is Alejandra Waterman, District 4, and I'm not here to lift the sins of Zionism.

7:18:04

This is about free speech.

7:18:06

This is an issue that has to do with the definition of the conflation of two separate and distinct things.

7:18:14

It is not a clear tool, as was said earlier.

7:18:17

Vote no on S500.

7:18:20

Your vote will be remembered.

7:18:25

Does that conclude your comments?

7:18:27

Yes.

7:18:28

Thank you.

7:18:28

8813, if you can please unmute 8813, and then it's Janine after that.

7:18:37

Okay, go on follow here.

7:18:38

I see I'm coming from a place of love.

7:18:40

Um, so is it anti Semitic to say that you easily trick and dumbest species on the planet?

7:18:52

A species controlled by fear.

7:18:55

It's both uh, you know, a hoot and a tragedy to witness at the same time.

7:19:00

While the people are distracted by things that keep us divided, like this item.

7:19:05

The corrupt system that keeps us all fighting continues to win.

7:19:09

The more we stay divided, the more we ignore the obvious.

7:19:14

The system does not work for the people.

7:19:17

Are you getting it yet?

7:19:18

Are you getting it?

7:19:19

Wake up in the back row in the front.

7:19:22

Everybody.

7:19:23

It will do everything it can to continue on its path, carrying out globalist agendas that do not serve us in any way, shape, or form.

7:19:32

It's a big club, and you ain't in it.

7:19:34

We're just ex-cattle and ventured service.

7:19:37

We continue to fund their wars and overlook pedophiles.

7:19:40

Our time has concluded, Janine.

7:19:42

If you can please unmute after that, we'll be Eric B.

7:19:45

Janine.

7:19:48

Hello, good afternoon.

7:19:50

My name is Janine.

7:19:51

I'm a resident of District One, and I'm shocked by some of the comments I heard today.

7:19:56

Today's a clear example from hateful comments that have been made why we need to oppose this measure.

7:20:02

This adoption, this measure has is conflicting to anti-Israel hate with anti-Semitism.

7:20:16

This is not the way to go about it.

7:20:18

The IHRA definition goes against our civil liberties and our civil rights.

7:20:22

If we as Americans can criticize Donald Trump, why can't we criticize Israel and the harm that it's committing and has been committing for 75 years using our tax funder dollars?

7:20:32

The reason we criticize Israel is because we don't want to be complicit in the genocide of the Palestinian people.

7:20:39

And it would be shameful today if the council, after hearing so many people speak against this, voted yes on this.

7:20:44

So again, I oppose this bill, and I hope that you don't vote on it.

7:20:48

Eric B.

7:20:49

If you can please unmute.

7:20:51

Sorry.

7:20:53

Eric B, if you can please unmute.

7:20:55

After that, we'll be so here.

7:20:57

Okay, can you hear me?

7:20:58

Yes, please proceed.

7:21:00

Thank you.

7:21:00

I'm a resident of District 9.

7:21:02

I have ancestors who are Jewish, and I've experienced anti-Semitism.

7:21:05

If Zionists do not want to be compared to Nazis in Germany, Gagulards in France, Felagistas in Spain, Ustashi and Croatia, Quislings in Norway, or fascists in Italy.

7:21:15

They should be lobbying the Israel government to stop carrying out the same policies as them.

7:21:21

Not asking this body to redefine reality and redefine what people would people who have eyes to see are allowed to call genocide.

7:21:29

States do not have a right to exist.

7:21:31

They do not have a right to exist.

7:21:36

And that my working definition of states includes this body, San Diego.

7:21:41

Never forget the rights of Palestinians, Lebanese, Iranians.

7:21:45

Yesterday was the anniversary of the murder of American protester Rachel Corey in 2003.

7:21:50

Never forget.

7:21:51

Vote no on S500.

7:21:55

So here, if you can please unmute.

7:21:57

After that, is one number ending in 999919.

7:22:01

Thank you.

7:22:10

Palestinians, Christian, Jewish, and Muslim Palestinians welcomed them with open arms.

7:22:15

Little did they know this was a calculated move by the newly founded Zionist movement based on the ideology of ethnic cleansing, the massacring of the indigenous Palestinians to create the state of Israel.

7:22:24

It is a disgrace to use the memory of the victims of the Holocaust to politicize the Holocaust in defense of the crimes committed by the state of Israel.

7:22:32

Judaism is over 2,000 years old.

7:22:34

Zionism was founded in the 1880s.

7:22:36

You do the math and you decide what you wish to worship.

7:22:40

I have the right to hate and criticize the ideology whose intent is to make sure I do not exist.

7:22:45

The Gaza Genocide is the epitome of Israel's crimes.

7:22:48

Before you vote, think of Razza and of the panel who will inevitably meet 50 years from now to discuss the international Gaza genocide remembrance alliance.

7:22:57

Your grandchildren may be sitting right where you sit today.

7:23:01

What is the legacy you leave behind?

7:23:03

Stand on the right hand.

7:23:06

Phone number ending in 9919.

7:23:09

If you can please unmute.

7:23:11

After that is Yasmin.

7:23:12

Hello.

7:23:14

Hello, can you hear me?

7:23:15

Yes, please proceed.

7:23:17

Yes, my name is Hala.

7:23:19

I cannot share my full name because my family members continue to be murdered in Gaza, and I do not want them targeted.

7:23:24

My organization is based in San Diego, focuses on equity for all marginalized communities.

7:23:30

I work on definitions all day to ensure the voices of the marginalized are not silenced or erased.

7:23:35

All hate against any group or individual is deplorable and unacceptable.

7:23:39

Definitions do matter.

7:23:40

This definition is not equitable.

7:23:42

Full stop.

7:23:43

Who will police this definition?

7:23:44

The entities in the room who believe criticism of Israel or Zionism is anti-Semitic?

7:23:49

Or the San Diego police department who trained with the Israeli defense forces.

7:23:53

Over a hundred of my family members have been brutally murdered in the genocide in Gaza.

7:23:57

Why is my pain and grief subject to a definition to police and silence me?

7:24:02

Why is my family's pain politicized or demonized?

7:24:05

We are the victims and we continue to be gaslit and demonized.

7:24:08

I have the right to share their names, their stories, and our history in every place and a space.

7:24:13

Their memory and stories deserve to live and not be a race.

7:24:16

They will never be a race.

7:24:19

Yasmin, if you can please unmute.

7:24:25

Hello, can you hear me?

7:24:26

Yes, please proceed.

7:24:28

Hello, this is Yasmin.

7:24:30

I'm a constituent of San Diego, and I'm also a Muslim Palestinian and City of San Diego employee.

7:24:36

I'm calling to urge my council members to oppose this resolution.

7:24:43

I know a lot of you, if not all of you, are already uh decided on what you're going to vote.

7:24:48

And I'm all I'm going to ask is that you actually listen to the people speaking and you reconsider.

7:25:00

Do not let today be a day that's gonna stay in your legacy in 20 years or 30 years when supporting Israel and the genocidal state is no longer cute.

7:25:04

You don't want your name associated with that.

7:25:06

So I urge you to vote no today.

7:25:08

Thank you.

7:25:09

Lily, if you can please unmute Lily.

7:25:16

Lily, I can't unmute for you.

7:25:18

I will have to move on.

7:25:19

There you go.

7:25:20

Can you hear me?

7:25:21

Yes, please proceed.

7:25:26

Hi, my name is Lily.

7:25:27

I am a Jewish parent and a resident of District 4.

7:25:31

It should be clear to you that this is an issue that affects many diverse San Diego communities that you will be ignoring by voting for this resolution.

7:25:37

To my fellow Jews, we do not fight anti-Semitism by silencing dissent.

7:25:42

Eight years ago, I visited Israel and Palestine for the first time and saw apartheid at work.

7:25:46

Separate roads for Israeli colonizers and Palestinians, Palestinian hospitals with insufficient supplies suffering from Israel's crippling economic blockade.

7:25:54

This starkly contrasted the narrative I grew up with in Hebrew school of Israel as the promised land for the Jews.

7:25:59

And if you pass the IHRA definition, my Jewish child's ability to learn the truth about Israel's ethnic cleansing in San Diego schools will be curtailed.

7:26:08

While you may feel that you are representing Jewish constituents, you are actually representing an increasingly fringe group of Jewish Zionists.

7:26:15

Many speakers here today tried to portray Jewish critics of Israel as fringe, but the numbers prove their lie.

7:26:20

Only 28% of American Jews, according to a recent poll report that's the first.

7:26:33

Good afternoon.

7:26:34

My name is Christy, Chief Programming Strategy Officer at the ACLU of San Diego.

7:26:38

The First Amendment protects everyone, including those who criticize domestic or foreign governments.

7:26:44

The IHRA definition, however, undermines that right by wrongly treating protected political speech as discrimination.

7:26:51

Antisemitism must be addressed, but this resolution is dangerous.

7:26:55

It will not combat determination and it will chill protected speech.

7:26:58

The resolution states that it is non-binding, but that does not fix the issue.

7:27:03

Discrimination, including anti-Semitism, is already prohibited under federal, state, and local law.

7:27:08

The resolution risks replacing a constitutional understanding of anti-Semitism for an unconstitutional framework.

7:27:15

People are reasonably hesitate to speak at council meetings, apply for permits, particularly as residents engage in debate over a variety of issues.

7:27:23

These concerns are not hypothetical.

7:27:37

8700, if you can please unmute.

7:27:39

After that is Ryan Fenn, 8700, star six.

7:27:46

I can unmute for you.

7:27:48

I will need to move on to the next caller if you can't unmute star six.

7:27:56

I will need to move on.

7:28:00

Ryan Fann, if you can please unmute.

7:28:04

Can you hear me?

7:28:05

Yes, please proceed.

7:28:06

Thank you.

7:28:07

Uh good evening, Council members.

7:28:09

Please vote no on the IRA resolution.

7:28:11

I'm a resident of District 9.

7:28:13

And I've seen as an educator how, of course, anti-Semitism is a very real issue, as is anti-black racism, anti-Asian hate, anti-Muslim hate, and so on.

7:28:21

However, we don't see definitions and examples of these other forms of hate enshrined into resolutions and legislation.

7:28:27

We also don't see the same kind of turnout at city council meetings for these issues.

7:28:30

The lead author of the IRA definition has spoken out over and over again about how this definition's been weaponized to silence free speech.

7:28:37

People speak in hypotheticals, but it's very real how this is happening.

7:28:40

He even said that data to date has not had the transformative effect on the collection and hate crime analysis that people had hoped for when they created the definition.

7:28:50

If this definition is to go through, it would also label Holocaust survivors who spoke out against Israel as anti-Semitic.

7:28:57

How ironic is that?

7:28:59

It's also ironic that the city council wants to pass a Ramadan proclamation on the same day that this is going through as Israel continues to attack Muslim majority countries.

7:29:06

Thanks for your time.

7:29:08

Zachariah, if you can please unmute after Zachariah, is Michael.

7:29:14

I urge you to vote no.

7:29:15

Israel is racist, apartheid state which is both built on genocide and cannot survive without it.

7:29:20

To be very clear, that has nothing to do with the Jewish community.

7:29:23

And that discussion should not be part of the discussion of anti-Semitism.

7:29:27

The reason why we have to start with that discussion of Israel is precisely because of the IRA definition.

7:29:32

Why?

7:29:33

Because the definition explicitly includes examples related to Israel.

7:29:37

I agree with the proponents of the definite of the proponents of the definition that we should not have to litigate Israel when discussing anti-Semitism.

7:29:44

But the IRA definition forces us to do exactly that.

7:29:47

Council, you've heard from Jewish members on both sides of this issue who have said very clearly that they don't want to be conflated with the actions of Israel.

7:29:56

And that is exactly what the IRA definition does.

7:30:00

Why would we adopt a definition that does exactly that?

7:30:02

I'm confident that we can adopt the definition of anti-Semitism that does not require us to debate Israel in order to recognize hate that allows us to address anti-Semitism directly, clearly, and effectively.

7:30:13

Don't adopt a definition that by design brings Israel into the conversation.

7:30:17

Your time is concluded.

7:30:18

Michael, if you can please unmute.

7:30:22

Hi, I am a Jewish resident of District 8.

7:30:25

I oppose the adoption of the IHRA working definition of anti-Semitism.

7:30:29

I care a great deal about the threat of anti-Semitism, but I find the IHRA definition to be overly vague, contradictory, and problematic.

7:30:37

I appreciate that the IRHRA definition claims criticism of Israel, similar to that leveled against any other country, cannot be regarded as anti-Semitic.

7:30:44

But what follows in the definition is vague and even contradicts that as others have noted.

7:30:49

You cannot say that this definition does not provide cover for criticism of Israel.

7:30:53

As the comments in favor of this definition today clearly illustrate.

7:30:56

The comments by individuals like the woman talking about her son's team Israel baseball cap in support of the definition, demonstrate clearly why this definition is harmful.

7:31:05

As our advocacy against Israel, even in this chamber, is being caught used to call us anti-Semitic.

7:31:10

You're witnessing in real time the definition being used to conflate anti-Semitism with the criticism of Israel.

7:31:16

I also want to say regarding the propaganda video that was shown.

7:31:24

Actually, many Jews are.

7:32:17

And Judaism existed before the state of Israel.

7:32:20

And uh Palestinians are also Semites.

7:32:22

So thank you so much.

7:32:24

Uh protect um all communities and reject this definition.

7:32:28

Thank you.

7:32:29

Our next caller is Liliana.

7:32:31

After that is Tristan Berry.

7:32:32

Liliana, if you can please unmute.

7:32:38

Liliana.

7:32:42

Hello?

7:32:42

Yes, please proceed.

7:32:45

Hi, can you see?

7:32:48

Okay.

7:32:49

Hi, I am a community member born and raised in City Heights a community that's home to hundreds of ethnicities, religions, and cultures who have who have learned to coexist and support one another.

7:32:58

They do the same lens.

7:32:59

I recognize the Jewish community is no different.

7:33:02

They face historical atrocities and to deserve safety.

7:33:04

However, this definition does not guarantee safety.

7:33:07

It shields Israel from accountability, ignores the root causes of harm such as racism and colonialism, and risks labeling all Jewish people as Zionists, which we know is not true.

7:33:17

The Sandio Human Relations Commission and Council needs to reflect heavy on their priorities because for the past two years, Palestinian communities have been calling for a resolution to recognize the ongoing genocide in Palestine.

7:33:28

And they've been ignored.

7:33:29

If the true intention is to protect people, then there would be accountability upheld in our own city.

7:33:34

There is no real accountability right now or justice for Kano Wilson, which is a young person who was murdered at the hands of the department they said he funds the most.

7:33:42

So who are you really choosing to protect?

7:33:44

I urge you all to abide by that strong community.

7:33:46

Time has concluded.

7:33:47

My apologies, Tristan Barry, if you can please unmute.

7:33:50

After that is one of Branding 9396.

7:33:53

Tristan, please proceed.

7:33:56

Hello, Council.

7:33:56

My name is Tristan Beerie, and I'm here to speak in opposition to the adoption of the IRA definition.

7:34:01

While I stand alongside my Jewish neighbors against any persecution they received, I cannot in good consciousness advocate for a nation state of Israel to have this layer of immunity from any sort of criticism.

7:34:11

It's important to note that not all Jews are Israeli nor are all Israelis Jewish.

7:34:15

The IRA, while protecting the Jewish people takes things a step too far by stricting my restricting my ability to criticize a nation that is engaged in an ethnic cleansing, not unlike that of Nazi Germany, with one large difference being that this one's been ongoing for 78 years, if not longer.

7:34:28

We love to bring up all the shamans like it since October 7th, but downplay the ongoing impacts of the NACPA and the imperialist expulsion of Palestinians today, which led to those events.

7:34:38

Fun fact under the IRA definition, I would now be considered anti-Semitic compared for comparing Israel to Nazis.

7:34:43

Notice at no point in time did I say the Jews were attended Nazis put to the Israeli regime instead, but that matters not.

7:34:49

The United States is currently trying to push imperialism on three different fronts in Venezuela, Iran, and Cuba, much like the Nazis did, but that doesn't make me un-American to notice that.

7:34:57

It just makes me historically observant.

7:34:59

Your time is concluded.

7:35:00

Just as an update, there are 25 speakers in the queue.

7:35:02

No additional speakers will be taken.

7:35:04

3996.

7:35:06

9396, if you can please unmute.

7:35:11

9396.

7:35:14

I can unmute for you, star six.

7:35:16

A prompt should have come forward.

7:35:21

Hello.

7:35:23

Good evening, Council Member Foster.

7:35:25

I'm Kathleen McLeod, and also to the chair Lakov and Council members.

7:35:30

I'm I'm a resident of District 4 and oppose premature action today.

7:35:35

I'm encouraged to hear that the Human Relations Commission wants to reconsider this proposal.

7:35:41

Also, your rules committee, which handles policy language and definitions of terms, hasn't vetted this proposal for the city's resolution adoption process.

7:35:51

Since anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism are global issues and often conflated, our international affairs board should weigh into for informed decision making.

7:36:02

We need more inclusive public discourse on this contentious topic.

7:36:07

If the intent of this action is to shield Israeli policy from grassroots diplomacy, it makes the world less safe given our massive 6.82 billion dollars in military aid to Israel.

7:36:21

Action today is premature.

7:36:23

Please pull it.

7:36:24

Thank you.

7:36:25

Our next speaker is Nancy.

7:36:27

Please unmute the question.

7:36:31

Hi, I live in District 9, and I'm asking you to vote no or abstain on this agenda item.

7:36:36

No one deserves to experience hate or violence.

7:36:38

That includes our Jewish neighbors and our Muslim neighbors and our immigrant and black and brown neighbors.

7:36:43

And I wish we could be unified in that.

7:36:45

At face value, the definition seems like a good one if it were also to include Semitic Palestinians.

7:36:49

The seven manifestations are examples that explicitly name the state of Israel are the primary problem.

7:36:54

This is suppressing free speech.

7:36:56

An STPD, who trains with the IDF and who murdered 16-year-old Kanoa Wilson is going to be the enforcers.

7:37:02

Yikes.

7:37:03

Countless public comments today made it clear, or rather, how unclear the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism is.

7:37:09

Countless commenters who identify as Jewish have stated that criticism of Israel does make them feel less safe, or responded via thumbs up or down.

7:37:17

Many of the women showing up in the live stream, in fact, in the first couple of rows who support this resolution have been thumbs downing or even laughing at the state of Israel murdering children.

7:37:25

I wish they were thumbs downing the actions of a government murdering entire families with their tax dollars.

7:37:30

What the state of Israel is doing is a genocide.

7:37:33

They're also starting another one with Iran.

7:37:35

Your time has concluded.

7:37:36

Nikki, if you can please unmute.

7:37:41

I can unmute.

7:37:42

There you go.

7:37:43

Hi, thank you so much.

7:37:44

My name is Nikki, and I'm a resident of the city of San Diego and District 9.

7:37:49

Um, I am urging you all to vote no on S500.

7:37:54

The IHRA definition limits the criticism of Israel, as many folks here have stated.

7:38:00

I want to note that all people deserve protection, and this includes Jewish comrades as well.

7:38:07

Anti-semitism is really scary and a really real thing that is happening in our world today.

7:38:14

People also deserve protection who are being bombed in Iran, Gaza, the West Bank, and Lebanon as well.

7:38:21

There are so many ways that we can protect our Jewish neighbors, and this does not include adopting the IHRA, the IHRA definition.

7:38:30

We are all hurting in the room.

7:38:32

I can see us hurting now the pain of Jewish people from the violence that you've endured, the pain of Palestinians from the violence that you've endured.

7:38:40

Please vote no and come together, not based in fear, but in love.

7:38:45

Thank you.

7:38:46

Next is Lily, if you can please unmute after Lily is Drew.

7:38:52

Hi, my name is Lily Irani, and I'm a resident of D3.

7:38:56

My heart aches of the anti-Semitism of those who might make assumptions about Jewish people support the actions of Hitler, which is completely disgusting.

7:39:05

And just as my heart aches for the people of Gaza and the West Bank being ethnically cleansed by Israeli settlers, tacitly condoned by State of Israel.

7:39:13

My heart aches for my own family in Tehran right now, trying to survive under the U.S.

7:39:17

and Israel's bombs falling on them for weeks.

7:39:20

The city adopting IRA would prevent me from expressing this in our city, as Christy Hill of ACLU has pointed out to you.

7:39:27

IRA over focuses on criticism of Israel and examples of anti-Semitism.

7:39:31

It is an affront to the idea of equity for all San Diegans.

7:39:35

Please urge the Human Relations Committee to reconsider this issue and consider the Jerusalem Declaration on anti-Semitism instead.

7:39:43

The Jerusalem Declaration responds to the IRA definition and specifically many problems with the IRA definition, in that it's open to widely different interpretations and it has caused confusion.

7:39:55

Your time has concluded, true Ector.

7:39:57

If you can please unmute.

7:40:06

You are there you go.

7:40:08

We can hear you now.

7:40:10

Okay.

7:40:10

Thank you, honorable council members, city attorney, city clerk, and Mr.

7:40:14

Smith.

7:40:15

My comments center on the uh the glaring discrepancies found in the 11 examples that are provided.

7:40:22

Several speakers have already addressed them and provided really excellent examples.

7:40:27

Um as these 11 examples are written into the actual resolution.

7:40:35

And what it means for the city of San Diego for to adopt those examples.

7:40:39

As well as if the first statement is true, that criticism of Israel is a- okay.

7:40:44

Why are the examples even in there?

7:40:46

Um why don't we just take out any reference to Israel or simply omit the 11 examples altogether?

7:40:54

Um last thing I'll add is that several speakers have said European countries, US cities have adopted the definition, but many of them have done exactly what I'm proposing here and suggesting, and that we just remove those 11 examples.

7:41:09

Thank you for your time.

7:41:11

Lydia, if you can please unmute.

7:41:16

Over the past several hours of comments, proponents of IRA have continued to make several of the same claims, and I want to address three of these.

7:41:24

First, they say that anti-Semitism is on the rise.

7:41:27

This is true, and it must be condemned.

7:41:30

Next, they point to the dozens of states and nations who have already adopted IRA.

7:41:34

Also true.

7:41:35

Then they go on to say that the IRA definition will have no effect on free speech and is just an educational tool.

7:41:43

So let's take a look at those states and nations which have adopted IRA.

7:41:47

There are dozens, if not hundreds, of documented cases of IRA being weaponized to silence and criminalize pro-Palestinian protests.

7:41:54

Is the Jewish community any safer?

7:41:56

The rising rates of anti-Semitism say no.

7:41:59

This is a demonstrable outcome.

7:42:02

From the Trump administration's assault on college campuses to the 700-plus peaceful protesters arrested in the UK for carrying signs saying they oppose genocide.

7:42:11

So the two Australian protesters arrested on hate speech charges for saying from the river to the sea.

7:42:16

Um, I think our answer is clear.

7:42:18

It's not clear.

7:42:19

Your time has concluded for you.

7:42:21

If you can please unmute.

7:42:28

I can't unmute for you.

7:42:30

A pop-up should have come up to unmute yourself.

7:42:34

I will have to move on to the next caller if you can't unmute yourself.

7:42:43

Moving on to the next caller, Nicole, if you can please unmute.

7:42:49

I'm Nicole Howard, District 3 resident.

7:42:52

I've lived in San Diego for 19 years.

7:42:54

I'm a veteran Navy officer, still protecting our constitution from domestic enemies, some of whom are sitting in this room today.

7:43:02

This council is eroding our civil liberties, proposing a policy that singles out one religion as more special than others, despite existing hate crime laws.

7:43:16

And this policy ignores other religious groups subject to hate crimes and discrimination, including Muslims, Sikhs, Christians, atheists, and others.

7:43:25

Who in San Diego wants this?

7:43:27

We're tired of corporate democrats wasting resources, passing policies, pandering to special interest groups.

7:43:34

Councilmember Whitburn, I'm disappointed but not surprised that this is your priority while you ignore your community.

7:43:41

Councilmember Von Lilpert, I'm sure you support this member, since per track APAC, you take money from the Israel lobby.

7:43:48

Others adopting this policy is not a good reason to adopt it here.

7:44:02

My name is Reem, and I urge you to reject the adoption of the IRA definition of anti-Semitism.

7:44:08

We are asked to adopt a definition that conflates criticism of a foreign government, the state of Israel, with hatred of a people, which is a dangerous precedent to set.

7:44:17

Anti-Semitism, like Islamophobia, anti-black racism, and other forms of hatred is a real issue that must be fought.

7:44:23

But this definition is a political weapon in disguise.

7:44:26

It's a blatant attempt to use the authority of the city to silence people who are exercising their First Amendment rights, and it's being done under a federal administration that is actively working to dismantle free speech across the nation.

7:44:38

This is being done now because there's a genocide being broadcast in real time from Gaza.

7:44:43

Because for decades we've watched wars, occupation, and systematic human rights violations unfold against the Palestinian people.

7:44:49

Those behind this definition don't want to stop anti-Semitism as much as they want to stop you from talking about the genocide in Gaza and criticizing the Israeli apartheid regime's policies and silencing anyone who says free Palestine.

7:45:01

Please do not be complicit in this.

7:45:03

Don't let San Diego become a city that weapon.

7:45:05

Your time has concluded.

7:45:06

Logan, if you can please unmute.

7:45:11

Logan.

7:45:12

Yeah, hi.

7:45:13

I'm uh urging the council to reject our uh working definition of anti-Semitism.

7:45:20

Um anti-Semitism is serious and um it needs to be opposed wherever it occurs.

7:45:25

However, the high re definition raises concerns about it amongst legal scholars, civil liberty organizations, human rights advocates, and um because some of the examples risk inflating legitimate criticism of the policies of the state of Israel with anti-Semitism.

7:45:42

Any city actions to address religious hatred should be applied consistently for all faiths.

7:45:49

San Diego should also ensure equal efforts to combat anti-Christian sentiments, Islamophobia, any other discrimination against any other religious groups, so that policies protecting one faith.

7:45:58

Don't go, don't unintentionally create inequality or confusion about protective speech.

7:46:05

We already have federal and um state laws in place to protect people against anti-Semitism.

7:46:12

There's um, you know, if the council wants to adopt your time.

7:46:19

After that is Valentina and Natalie.

7:46:24

Natalia Popov should have come up.

7:46:26

I can't unmute for you.

7:46:30

I will need to move on.

7:46:33

Oh, hello.

7:46:35

There you go.

7:46:35

Hello.

7:46:35

Please proceed.

7:46:36

Hi.

7:46:37

I would like to point out how Zionism or Zionist or Zion is being used as a code and slur for Jew.

7:46:44

Many of us in the Jewish community are Zionists.

7:46:47

We believe in the self-determination of Jews and their ancestral homeland, which is the definition of Zionism.

7:46:52

The truth is the Middle East would be safer if more people embrace Zionism like the UAE and Saudi were going to do just days before October 7th.

7:46:58

Let's criticize Netanyahu's government and for and the far right.

7:47:01

Let's criticize Hamas and the IRGC.

7:47:03

This myopic focus on Israel as the evil scapegoat of the world is reaching pathological levels compared to the side compared to the silence on Sudan and the IRGC.

7:47:13

The war in Gaza was a direct result of the October 7th attack.

7:47:16

And many of these commentators calling Israelis baby killers should take a hard look at Hamas that literally fired from residential buildings and hid in tunnels under schools, and won an information war by nonstop streaming their quote unquote martyrs online.

7:47:31

We need this passed because anti-Semitism is showing up in anti-Zionist rhetoric.

7:47:36

Thank you.

7:47:39

My apologies, Valentina, if you can please unmute after that will be Matthew.

7:47:43

Valentina.

7:47:43

Can you hear me?

7:47:44

Yes, please proceed.

7:47:46

Thank you.

7:47:47

Hello, my name's Valentina.

7:47:48

Um, I'm a constituent of uh Mr.

7:47:52

Whitburns.

7:47:53

Um I'm calling here today to urge you to oppose this.

7:47:58

Um I'm deeply moved by by everything everything's been talking about um so far, and I'm a Jewish resident.

7:48:06

Um, but this does not make me feel safer in in my town of San Diego.

7:48:11

Um I I'm deeply critical of the state of Israel, and that that is what I fear of that I cannot speak openly um about my feelings towards this foreign state.

7:48:23

And um another speaker said that this definition could be used, but it has been used.

7:48:31

The Trump administration has used this very definition to silence speech on campuses.

7:48:37

Um, so I urge you to oppose it.

7:48:39

Um thank you for your time.

7:48:42

Next is Matthew, if you can please unmute.

7:48:47

Matthew.

7:48:50

Yes, yes, am I there?

7:48:52

Yes, please proceed.

7:48:54

Thank you.

7:48:54

I'm a Jew and resident of District 2.

7:48:56

The people on this call don't understand that anti-Zionism, which denies Jews the right to the same self-determination aspired to by other groups, actually is anti-Semitic in its essence.

7:49:07

The anti-Semitic double standard that falsely applies the terms of genocide and Nazism to Israel, while unsurprisingly ignoring worse atrocities by other nations and the anti-Semitic slurs and comments of many of the people on this call themselves are the exact reason why the adoption should why this should be adopted.

7:49:23

This is not about the Middle East conflict, it's about the safety of Jewish San Diegans.

7:49:28

Hate crimes affect Jews disproportionately in the US population.

7:49:31

Yes, even more than Islamophobia, despite anti-Semitic attempts to equate the two.

7:49:36

Here's the key point.

7:49:37

Jews are not safe to worship or organize in San Diego because of feverish, purposefully engineered, anti-Zionist focus and rhetoric.

7:49:45

Please adopt this definition.

7:49:47

Thank you.

7:49:48

Next is Claire Snyder.

7:49:50

If you can please unmute Claire.

7:49:55

Good evening, Councilmembers.

7:49:56

My name is Claire Snyder, and I'm a resident of District Three.

7:50:01

I urge you to vote no on this item.

7:50:04

Um anti-Semitism is real, but this definition completes it with Zionism.

7:50:12

Um, and it would be producing our free speech to make comments against the state of Israel and Zionism, which is currently actively genociding millions of people across Palestine and the rest of the Levant.

7:50:30

I do not believe that the people living in Palestine or Iran in Syria and Afghanistan would feel safer if they accepted Zionism.

7:50:42

That's BS for the caller who just said that.

7:50:46

Um, so I urge you to vote no so that we can continue to engage in our peaceful advocacy and free speech across this issue.

7:50:55

Thank you.

7:50:57

Garrett, if you can please unmute Garrett.

7:51:03

Garrett, I can't unmute.

7:51:05

There you go.

7:51:06

Hello.

7:51:08

Hello?

7:51:09

Can you please proceed?

7:51:10

Yes, we can hear you.

7:51:12

Yeah.

7:51:12

Um during the first Trump administration, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo for the idea of using the IHRA definition to declare Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch anti-Semitic, which would have threatened their funding.

7:51:24

So even if this resolution says it doesn't want to affect free speech, it will have effects.

7:51:30

Surely any definition of anti-Semitism that declares Amnesty International and human rights watch anti-Semitic is flaw.

7:51:37

While some may say that they are purposefully misinterpreting the definition, that does not matter.

7:51:43

Any definition that can so easy, easily and opportunistically be interpreted as calling Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch anti-Semitic is flawed.

7:51:52

We have already seen that its misuse already, so we can't claim ignorance.

7:51:58

I implore you not to accept a definition like this.

7:52:00

Thank you.

7:52:02

Thank you, Netnaya.

7:52:04

If you can please unmute Natalia.

7:52:10

Hi, this is Natanya.

7:52:12

I am uh in District 6 with Kent Lee.

7:52:16

I am asking for you to please approve this resolution and pass it.

7:52:21

I am a Jew and uh I am an American and I am a marine veteran.

7:52:28

And this is super important to me to have a definition that we can work with here in San Diego.

7:52:36

We are not all like I'm no foreign policy expert.

7:52:41

I love Israel.

7:52:42

I do not love their current government, just as I'm not so keen on our current government here in America.

7:52:49

This doesn't mean that we don't put down a definition to help the Jews not deal with all the anti-Semitism they're dealing with.

7:53:00

Please pass this resolution.

7:53:03

Thank you.

7:53:05

Next is Samar.

7:53:06

If you can please unmute.

7:53:11

Hello, can you hear me?

7:53:13

Yes, please proceed.

7:53:16

Hi, I'm Summer.

7:53:17

I am a graduate student in public administration, and I hope to study law, and I know that I don't need a law degree to know that this is infringing on my first amendment.

7:53:25

Right.

7:53:25

Well, the IHRA defines anti-Semitism as hostility towards Jew, it's Jews, it supplements that definition with 11 illustrative examples, seven of which focus on Israel and Zionism rather than on discriminatory conduct directed at Jewish people.

7:53:40

Under its framework, even speech condemning mass civilian killing or using the term genocide in reference to Gaza can be construed as anti-Semitic.

7:54:03

And despite this legal foundation, some prominent organizations have misconstrued calls like the Jewish United Fund for the right of return, along with just depictions of Israel as a colonial state as undeniable proof of anti-Semitism.

7:54:17

We must oh your time is concluded.

7:54:32

Yes, thank you.

7:54:33

My name is Omar Kadam.

7:54:34

I'm a resident of San Diego.

7:54:36

I'm here to urge the council to vote no when agenda item 500.

7:54:42

Yesterday we commemorated 23 years since the killing of Rachel Corey, a Jewish American citizen and activist.

7:54:50

She was killed in Rafahaz by the Israeli military.

7:54:58

Especially over the past two years.

7:55:01

So how will S500 limit the criticism of the killers here?

7:55:05

If we say such crime and other ongoing crimes were committed by Israel, S500 will say you're targeting the only Jewish state, and that's anti-Semitic.

7:55:16

Yes, we need to address anti-Semitism, but this is not the right way to address it.

7:55:21

It is completely insensitive and racist.

7:55:23

That the city council is telling those who lost 70,000 of their own people, including 20,000 children, what they should or should not say.

7:55:32

Please vote no.

7:55:34

Your time has thank you, Sarah.

7:55:35

If you can please unmute.

7:55:40

Hi, can you hear me?

7:55:41

Yes, please proceed.

7:55:43

Uh hi, um, good good evening, council members.

7:55:46

Um, I I just wanted to say I urge you to vote no on this resolution and reject the IRA definition of anti-Semitism.

7:55:51

I find it confusing that all of a sudden we want to talk about Israel and foreign governments.

7:55:55

Yet when we ask our city council members to pass a ceasefire resolution, acknowledging the genocide and the murder of Palestinians, our city council members were concerned that this was a foreign issue.

7:56:06

We talk about Israel and that this is a foreign issue because this very definition says that in conflates, this definition conflates Judaism with Zionism.

7:56:14

So I urge you to listen to those who have been calling in those who have showed up to the city council member chambers to tell you that this definition is harmful.

7:56:23

We will be replicating the harmful impact that the federal the fascist federal government is doing in our own city.

7:56:30

We do not want that, and we want to believe in our democratic leadership that they can protect our freedom of speech.

7:56:37

This will be your legacy, so please vote no on this.

7:56:40

Thank you.

7:56:41

Next is Yaren, if you can please unmute.

7:56:47

Hello, my name is Yaren, and I am a resident of District Bree in North Park.

7:56:52

And I oppose the adoption of the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism because it only serves to undermine and delegitimatize pro-Palestine movements.

7:57:04

The IHRA definition wrongfully conflates Zionism with Judaism by equating criticism of Israel's genocide of Palestinians with anti-Jewish sentiment.

7:57:14

Are we not allowed to stand against a genocidal and apartheid state of Israel?

7:57:19

Because that is what the IHRA definition seeks to do.

7:57:22

I cannot morally stay silent at the total massacre and violence against Palestinians.

7:57:27

And I urgently ask you all that item S500 is opposed.

7:57:31

Thank you.

7:57:32

Rebecca, if you can please unmute Rebecca.

7:57:38

Thank you.

7:57:39

My name is Rebecca Karks, and I live in District One.

7:57:44

I am a Jewish resident, and I am urging you to please vote in favor of adopting the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism.

7:57:52

I have friends who are afraid to attend services or go to Jewish events here in San Diego in fear of anti-Semitic, you know, violent attacks, being harassed.

7:58:03

I personally have been called an effing Jew.

7:58:06

Um people have called me an a genocidal affir.

7:58:10

Um definitely know people who have been spit on and harassed at our universities, threatened uh kids who are afraid to wear their Keepa.

7:58:19

And I, you know, adopting the definition would definitely help address these issues that we're having, and I really hope that um you do the right thing and you vote in favor.

7:58:30

Thank you.

7:58:31

Thank you.

7:58:32

Andy, if you can please unmute.

7:58:38

Andy, I can unmute for you.

7:58:40

I'll pop up.

7:58:41

There you go.

7:58:43

Hi, my name is Andy, and I reside in San Diego.

7:58:49

Um, I just want to say I am a Semi and I have family and people who live in Bethlehem, have been suffering from the Zionists.

7:59:02

So Assembly is not Jewish, and Asema is not a Zionist.

7:59:10

So I would oppose this.

7:59:12

Um, and I would say do not vote for it.

7:59:17

Thank you.

7:59:19

Next is Lawrence, if you can please unmute.

7:59:26

Hi, can you please proceed?

7:59:29

Thank you.

7:59:29

I'm uh I'm Lawrence LeBlanc.

7:59:31

I've lived in Hillcrest for 15 years.

7:59:33

I am a Jew and being a Zionist is part of my identity.

7:59:37

Uh I have an example at the San Diego Airport in Terminal 1 last year, just wearing a Star of David necklace and a shirt with only Hebrew letters on it and nothing political.

7:59:46

And I'm about to board my flight, and someone approached me and said, free Palestine.

7:59:50

And I had to take a second look, and I said to him, I'm sorry, why are you targeting me and talking to me and harassing me like this?

7:59:55

I don't even know you.

7:59:56

And then my husband stepped in the way to separate us before a fight broke out, and then he said, You dirty Jew.

8:00:00

And then he said, You dirty Jew.

8:00:01

And I was like, wow, the whole crowd was appalled.

8:00:03

I had to get on my flight instead of calling the police to not miss my flight, but I could have had them on the no fly list.

8:00:08

But in reality, without this IRHA being voted on, it gives a green light for anti-Semits like that to hide behind and still target us all.

8:00:16

So please, I I'm scarred for life because of that experience, and I need this to be passed to improve me and every Jew in San Diego's life to be protected from discrimination like that.

8:00:26

It's uncalled for and it's needed.

8:00:28

Thank you.

8:00:29

Next is Orren.

8:00:31

Again, if you raise your hand after the five-minute timer, you won't be taken, but you can definitely submit your speaker's lips to City Clerk at San Diego.gov.

8:00:38

Orrin Robinson, if you can please unmute.

8:00:41

My apologies.

8:00:43

Please unmute again.

8:00:44

Please proceed.

8:00:45

Hi, all my name is Orrin Robinson.

8:00:47

I'm yet another Jewish constituent.

8:00:50

I've lived in District 4 and now live in District 9.

8:00:53

Please vote no or send back to the commission who is chair, Tyler Duncan has requested this.

8:00:59

And a few questions for the council members.

8:01:01

Do you support the expulsion of 750,000 indigenous Palestinians from their land and homes?

8:01:08

Yes, you are a Zionist then.

8:01:11

Do you support exclusive rights for Jews above others, even on their own lands?

8:01:18

Then yes, you are a Zionist.

8:01:19

So you'll vote yes.

8:01:22

Do you instead support liberation and justice for Palestinian people, including the right to return to their homes and land?

8:01:29

Then you are an anti-Zionist.

8:01:31

So you should vote no.

8:01:33

Do you believe in a future where all people in the land live in freedom, safety, and equality?

8:01:38

Then you're anti-Zionist.

8:01:39

Vote no.

8:01:40

True safety is built through slowing down, listening, and fighting against injustice, not excusing it.

8:01:46

We keep us safe, not definitions.

8:01:49

Thank you.

8:01:58

Free, if you can please unmute.

8:02:04

Moving on.

8:02:05

Julia, if you can please unmute.

8:02:10

Hi, my name is Julia, and I live in uh district five.

8:02:15

Um I am a Jewish American and the granddaughter of a Holocaust survivor.

8:02:21

Um my grandmother narrowly escaped at the Nazis in Europe when she was 18 years old and went into hiding.

8:02:29

Um and I know firsthand what it means to from her ex she knew firsthand, but I know from her experience what it means to have dangerous anti-Semitic rhetoric go unchecked and go unchecked for so long and gain so much power that it leads to the murder of six million Jews in the Holocaust.

8:02:52

And I'm telling you right now, as a Jew in America, that that exact process is happening in America, and the rhetoric against Jews is extremely dangerous.

8:03:04

My stepfather was beat up on the street by a couple of guys who pushed him down and called him an effing Jew because he was carrying grocery bags with Hebrew writing on them in 2020.

8:03:17

Your time has concluded.

8:03:18

Um we have our last three speakers.

8:03:20

Daniel, if you can please unmute, then Zoom user and then Eva.

8:03:25

Daniel, please unmute.

8:03:28

Hi, good evening.

8:03:28

Thank you, which is my call.

8:03:30

I would like to ask you to vote against S500.

8:03:33

Um, we know that major human rights and civil rights organizations have come out to against adopting this definition, including Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, ACLU, which we heard earlier, the International Federation for Human Rights.

8:03:47

Um, I believe it does open up San Diego County to litigation.

8:03:51

Uh in addition, it was it's been used as a tool for for Trump's defunding of our institutions of higher learning to the tune of several billion dollars.

8:04:00

It's included in his executive orders.

8:04:02

So we know that it is used to silence and um defund institutions that are important to us uh in general, and um we know that uh adopting this resolution uh leads to decreased uh interest in in funding.

8:04:22

Um which certainly could have foot and does nothing to come combat anti-Semitism.

8:04:30

Uh so please vote no.

8:04:31

Thank you.

8:04:31

Your time has concluded, Eva.

8:04:33

If you can please unmute.

8:04:38

Hi, thank you for um listening.

8:04:40

Council members, please approve and vote yes for S500.

8:04:44

Um, this is a resolution to pass the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism.

8:04:48

There's free speech, and then there's anti-Semitism and anti-Zi-Zionism.

8:04:52

We don't need examples from human rights uh foundation or the United United Nations statutes.

8:04:57

Why is this a Palestinian or Muslim problem here in America?

8:05:00

This resolution is for San Diego Jewish members.

8:05:03

We are Jews in San Diego, born in the United States, and we um this is freedom of religion, and we as Jews need you to protect us.

8:05:11

And this is a being protected from discrimination and from hatred, and it's baseless hatred.

8:05:16

Please vote yes on S500.

8:05:18

Thank you so much.

8:05:19

Thank you.

8:05:19

And our final speaker, 4493.

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4493.

8:05:28

Star 6, I can't unmute for you.

8:05:32

Star six, one more time.

8:05:34

I sent you the prompt why weren't you unmuted?

8:05:38

Star six to unmute.

8:05:42

Hi, can you hear?

8:05:43

Yes, please proceed.

8:05:44

Yes, please, yes.

8:05:45

Sorry about that.

8:05:47

Hi there, my name is Josh.

8:05:48

I'm a resident of San Diego, California.

8:05:51

And I think that a lot of people who are mentioning that that IHR definition of anti-Semitism is wrong, are really missing the point.

8:05:59

It explicitly says within the definition that criticized criticism of Israel is as long as it's similar to any other country, is not inherently anti-Semitic.

8:06:10

And if you actually look at the statistics of what most Jews are, as I am a Jew, and I'm saying that majority of Jews in this country, um, according to polls, at least 80% of Jews in this country are Zionists.

8:06:22

Zionism literally means that the Jew Jewish people have the right to self-determinism and self-determination, I mean, and to Israel.

8:06:29

That does not mean that they all respect the Mikud party or that they believe in Netanyahu.

8:06:36

That just means that Jews live in Israel.

8:06:38

That does not mean that anti-Semitism is against Palestinian.

8:06:42

Thank you.

8:06:47

That does conclude public comment on item S500.

8:06:50

Thank you, Council President.

8:06:51

All right, thank you, City Clerk, uh, for our 20 minutes.

8:06:55

Uh, before we continue on, let's give a big round of applause for our city clerk.

8:07:17

And all the city clerk staff, of course.

8:07:20

Uh got a little bumpy there, but I think we made it through.

8:07:22

I appreciate everybody's patience and willingness to uh participate in our informal rules uh in chambers.

8:07:31

So with that, we will now turn it over to my council colleagues for any questions, comments, and inner take uh excuse me, undertake a motion, and we will start uh with council member Whitburn.

8:07:44

Thank you, Council President, and thank you to all of you uh here in chambers uh and who called in who shared your thoughts on this today.

8:07:52

Uh and I want to thank my council colleagues as well, uh, and to the entire city team.

8:07:57

Uh this has been a lengthy discussion.

8:08:01

As we heard today, for far too many Jewish families, including thousands who live right here in San Diego.

8:08:08

Anti-Semitism is not an abstract concept.

8:08:11

It is something they live with every single day.

8:08:15

And that is why I am bringing this forward.

8:08:18

There have been anti-Semitic incidents in my council district, and there has been a rise in anti-Semitic hate crimes citywide.

8:08:25

Crimes that I think everybody here would agree are rooted in anti-Semitism.

8:08:31

Again, I want to thank the San Diego Anti-Semitism Task Force for meeting with me about the rise in anti-Semitism and the importance of this action to so many people in the Jewish community.

8:08:41

And I want to thank our City of San Diego Human Relations Commission, which is a diverse body of community leaders dedicated to confronting discrimination in our city for considering this and forwarding a request to the city council that we adopt this resolution, as have many other cities like Los Angeles and Chicago.

8:09:00

And I want to again thank Raya Darcy for your work on this.

8:09:09

And I want to thank all the members of the public who made thoughtful comments on this resolution this afternoon.

8:09:15

I appreciate all the people who shared with us today how important this resolution is to them, how meaningful it is to them that the city council stand with the Jewish community against anti-Semitism.

8:09:28

I also appreciate those who want to protect free speech, and specifically those who want to protect the right to criticize the actions of Israel's government or any government.

8:09:38

We should protect that right.

8:09:41

My view is that the resolution does protect that right.

8:10:07

My view is that this definition of anti-Semitism also does protect that right.

8:10:14

I think the language that says, quote, criticism of Israel, similar to that, leveled against any other country, cannot be regarded as anti-Semitic, is pretty straightforward.

8:10:27

I heard concern about a few of the examples in the definition.

8:10:31

To that, I would point out that the language introducing those examples does not say that those examples should always be construed as anti-Semitism.

8:10:43

It does not say that those examples are always anti-Semitism.

8:10:48

It says that the examples could, taking into account the overall context, be viewed as anti-Semitism.

8:10:57

And I think it is true that there are times when those examples could, taking into account the overall context, be viewed as anti-Semitism.

8:11:09

As I read it, this definition makes a point of allowing for criticism and allowing for context.

8:11:18

I don't see that it restricts free speech.

8:11:21

We just had hours of free speech here in these chambers, and nothing about this resolution would prevent anyone from coming to our next city council meeting and saying whatever they want.

8:11:32

No resolution this city council passes will ever restrict anyone's free speech.

8:11:40

But I will tell you what does restrict free speech.

8:11:47

When people are literally afraid to speak in Hebrew, that is an actual inhibition of their speech.

8:11:55

When people are afraid to wear their Star of David, that is an actual inhibition of their religious freedom.

8:12:04

Make no mistake, it is precisely because members of the Jewish community in San Diego are experiencing hate in a way that restrains their speech and their freedoms, that I believe we must send a message that this city council stands with the Jewish community against anti-Semitism.

8:12:21

I think that is an important message to send, and that is what this resolution does.

8:12:25

And I will make a motion that the City Council adopt a resolution recognizing the rise of anti-Semitism, affirming the city's commitment to combating hate and discrimination, and adopting the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance's working definition of anti-Semitism.

8:12:41

Thank you, Council President.

8:12:43

All right, thank you, Councilmember Whitburn.

8:12:45

You didn't use your last three minutes.

8:12:47

If you want to be generous with your colleagues, feel free.

8:12:50

So we have a motion by Councilmember Whitburn to move the uh recommendation.

8:12:55

We'll go next to Councilmember Elo Rivera.

8:12:58

Thank you, Council President.

8:13:02

Thank you to folks who participated today.

8:13:04

I'll be honest, I I'm really struggled today.

8:13:08

As everyone knows, I come from a multi-ethnic and multi-religious family, and I am a Jew, a proud Jew, and I know anti-Semitism.

8:13:16

I know it as the descendant of Sephardic Jews who spent over 400 years hiding and running in search of safety to be who they were and worship their God.

8:13:25

I know it is the descendant of Ashkenazi Jews who fled the pogroms in Ukraine.

8:13:30

And I don't just know it from my lineage, I know it from life, from growing up in a community where actual neo-Nazi skinheads felt more comfortable being proud bigots than I felt safe felt safe walking into my temple, or my Jewish identity being known by those who hate us for being us.

8:13:48

I know it from the anti-Semitism I hear and feel in these chambers and in my day-to-day life.

8:13:56

And I want to say thank you to the folks who share their stories, especially young folks, the young lady who courageously shared your story that resonated very much with me.

8:14:06

Because I know anti-Semitism, I hate it.

8:14:09

Antisemitism, like any form of hate and discrimination, is vile and should be fought fiercely and relentlessly.

8:14:16

It's also a growing problem across the political spectrum and around the world.

8:14:21

Donald Trump and his MAGA movement has provided a haven for racists, bigots, homophobes, Islamophobes, and anti-Semites.

8:14:28

Nazis have been invited to dine with Trump, and he has regularly perpetuated anti-Semitic stereotypes while claiming to be our quote-unquote protector.

8:14:36

And sadly, the rise has not been exclusive to far-right extremists.

8:14:41

More and more often, anti-Semitism has been accepted or not appropriately rejected in progressive spaces.

8:14:48

After years of feeling like the world was becoming safer for Jews, we are we are slipping backwards.

8:14:54

Rather than the world being safer for my son than it was for me, it actually feels more dangerous.

8:15:00

It's a travesty, and it must be recognized and it must be combated.

8:15:04

Unfortunately, this resolution and the examples contained within the IRA definition are not the way to do that.

8:15:11

There are two examples in particular that are vague, raise unanswerable questions, and that could be used to label speech rooted in Jewish identity, including my own, as anti-Semitic.

8:15:21

The first treats applying a double standard to Israel as anti-Semitic.

8:15:25

I asked proponents of this definition questions about this.

8:15:28

First, how does one know when a double standard is being applied?

8:15:32

Second, I am a Jew.

8:15:33

I am told I have a stake in Israel.

8:15:35

Am I anti-Semitic for holding Israel to a higher standard than nations I have no connection to?

8:15:39

Am I anti-American for holding the United States to a higher standard than any other country?

8:15:44

I could not get clear answers to the quote to those questions from proponents.

8:15:48

I know what it looks like when that question goes unanswered, because I've already lived it.

8:15:52

Last summer I wrote a piece expressing my horror at the violence in Gaza while also condemning Hamas and calling for the release of hostages.

8:15:59

A representative of the organization that presented to the human rights relations commission, and who spoke here today, published a piece calling me a feeder of anti-Semitism for writing it.

8:16:08

That's not hypothetical.

8:16:10

That's real.

8:16:11

That happened to me.

8:16:15

Not by everyone, but by the bad faith actors who who purposely want to use it that way.

8:16:20

The second example I raised, the second second example I raised concerns about treats comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to Nazi policy as anti-Semitic.

8:16:30

I cannot support a definition that makes any such comparison categorically off-limits.

8:16:35

If a government called for the total extermination of an ethnic people, are we forbidden from calling that what it is?

8:16:42

The most important moral reference point in modern Jewish history cannot be placed beyond reach.

8:16:47

That does not protect Jews.

8:16:49

It dishonor it dishonors the concept of never again.

8:16:53

Last week a man drove his truck through the doors of Temple Israel in West Bloomfield, Michigan.

8:16:58

More than 140 children, most of them five years old and younger, were inside.

8:17:03

It was an act of violence against the Jewish community.

8:17:05

It was anti-Semitic.

8:17:06

No place is safe, not a school, not a house of worship, not even a room full of babies.

8:17:12

My Iranian Muslim cousin who lives near there responded to that attack by joining with members of her community to write notes of love and support to the Jewish community of Temple Israel.

8:17:23

They are working to make sure those children know they are loved.

8:17:27

She did this because she recognizes the humanity in all people.

8:17:30

That same love could also move her to speak out against actions taken by the Israeli government that she believes cause harm.

8:17:38

Under this definition, that speech could be labeled anti-Semitic, not because she hates Jews, but because someone could argue her standards are uneven and she cannot prove otherwise.

8:17:49

A definition that cannot hold both of these things at once is not a tool for ant for fighting anti-Semitism.

8:17:56

It is a tool for silencing people who care about everyone.

8:18:00

If I may have my three additional minutes.

8:18:31

Jewish culture is built on open dialogue and respectful debate, which is also a foundation of democracy.

8:18:36

This resolution is both bad for both Jews and democracy.

8:18:40

It sends the false message that the only way for Jews to be safe is to criminalize others' opinions about Israel and Palestine.

8:18:46

Rather than trying to chill dialogue and discussion, we insist Jews are safe when democracy is safe and all marginalized people are safe.

8:18:52

It simply cannot be that those from within our community who offer an alternative perspective are automatically dismissed as French.

8:19:00

Councilmember Whitburn, as I understand it, the Human Relations Commission's discussion to recommend the adoption of this definition did not include external scholars, free speech experts, or Jewish community members outside of organizations that are already staked a position on this.

8:19:12

I see no evidence in the record that alternative definitions were presented to the Commission.

8:19:18

Am I wrong about any of that?

8:19:21

I would ask uh Nicole Mary Ramirez, who is a past chair to uh share what that discussion looked like if you would like him to come up.

8:19:36

Who uh uh by all means.

8:19:38

Okay.

8:19:38

Um I would invite Nicole Murray Ramirez, uh Nicole Murray Ramirez is a uh past uh chair of the San Diego Human Relations Commission and made the motion uh to uh advance uh the uh uh the the definition uh and the question had to do with the discussion and participation uh around the resolution.

8:20:06

Yeah, if I if I may uh did if the conversation included external scholars, free speech experts, or Jewish community members outside of organizations that had already staked a position in support of this.

8:20:17

We had uh uh we had public announcement that this would be discussed.

8:20:23

You have to remember that this was first brought in in March of last year, over a year ago.

8:20:29

Months and months, and why I brought another former chair is that we went through this for a whole year, and we had discussions on it.

8:20:38

We met privately, uh individually and publicly with different people on both sides of this issue.

8:20:45

We did our duty and we covered every type of opinion, every input that we could get.

8:20:53

You want to say something?

8:20:55

I'm not gonna give them to a back and forth.

8:20:57

What I will say is I did not hear an answer to the question about whether external scholars, free speech experts, or Jewish community members outside of organizations that are already staked a position on this, were included in the conversation.

8:21:07

From the minutes, they weren't.

8:21:09

I also say, and Councilor Woodburn, you and I spoke about this.

8:21:12

It was deeply frustrating that this recommendation came forward without any conversation with me, one of the two Jewish members of this body.

8:21:19

It's not a personal complaint.

8:21:21

I think it's a reflection of the same failure of inclusivity that has defined the process as a whole.

8:21:27

So I'm asking Councilman Whitburn if you'd be willing to return this item to the Human Relations Commission with specific direction to conduct a more robust and inclusive process, one that includes scholars, free speech experts, religious leaders, and Jewish community members representing a diversity of perspective perspectives.

8:21:43

We for over a year on this.

8:21:45

It's time for you to do this council to do its duty.

8:21:54

Hang tough.

8:21:59

I'm gonna let that slide, but the disrespect of someone from uh uh the disrespect is not okay.

8:22:06

The disrespect you gave me is not okay.

8:22:09

We worked for a whole year on it.

8:22:11

All right.

8:22:13

All right, let's let's hang tough.

8:22:15

Uh I think you were gonna entertain an amendment or something, or maybe.

8:22:18

I was offering I was offering consideration.

8:22:20

I am I am appalled right now.

8:22:24

Councilmember Rivera and I did discuss this, and uh I have uh a lot of respect for uh his uh thoughtfulness around this subject, uh his own personal experience with the subject matter, um, and the discussion that we had around it.

8:22:41

Um and his uh question has to do with uh whether I would recommend sending this back to the Human Relations Commission uh for further discussion.

8:22:53

I will say that my sense is that if we were to do that, there would be a discussion very similar to what we heard today, uh, that there would continue to be very different perspectives on this, uh, that this would once again be forwarded to the city council, and that we would have another discussion very similar to the one that we had today.

8:23:14

Um so I don't believe that there would be value in sending this back to the Human Relations Commission.

8:23:24

Um I do think we heard a robust variety of perspectives on this.

8:23:30

Uh and that we should take action this evening.

8:23:36

Thank you, Councilman Whitburn.

8:23:38

I appreciate that.

8:23:39

I think it's important to note that multiple members of the commission have said that after learning what they've learned and hearing more perspectives, they would like to reconsider this.

8:23:52

And I don't think that that should be dismissed out of hand.

8:23:54

Um I don't I'm gonna be honest, I don't know that folks realize the depth of the waters that they were stepping into when they took this action.

8:24:02

I think some did, and I think others didn't.

8:24:05

And that is clear from the request from those folks to have another opportunity at that.

8:24:11

But I I respect that you brought this forward.

8:24:15

I will I I I want to vote yes on something today.

8:24:18

Antisemitism is obviously a problem, it is real.

8:24:22

It's a threat to my community, it's a threat to my family, but I cannot support something that I do not believe in.

8:24:29

And the definition as presented, with the examples that are included, I've seen weaponized against my own speech in real life by folks who are in this chamber right now.

8:24:41

So I can't vote yes on this as presented.

8:24:44

Again, anti-Semitism is real.

8:24:46

The threat to my community is real.

8:24:48

My son deserves to grow up in a world that takes that seriously, and that's why I can't vote yes for a definition that falls short, and why I'm asking my colleagues to demand something more inclusive and more worthy of this very important conversation.

8:25:00

Thank you, Council President.

8:25:02

All right.

8:25:04

Come on.

8:25:05

Let's hold tight.

8:25:06

Let's see if we can get through this.

8:25:08

Um, Councilmember Yelbera, you got one additional minute from one of your colleagues.

8:25:15

Uh, because I want to keep all the bookkeeping, and Councilmember Whitburden.

8:25:19

We're not going to count that answer against your three minutes.

8:25:21

So you still have that.

8:25:22

Three minutes in the bank.

8:25:23

Um thank you, Councilmember Yelo Rivera.

8:25:27

We'll go next to Councilmember Campillo.

8:25:28

Thank you, Council President.

8:25:30

Thank you to the District 3 staff for your presentation, and thank you to all the members of the public for your participation on either side of the debate.

8:25:36

I appreciate you being here and telling us what you think.

8:25:39

For thousands of years, the Jewish people have battled for their existence.

8:25:44

The Jewish people should never have had to fight those battles alone.

8:25:48

I support this motion, and I will second this motion today.

8:25:52

Not because I'm the council member for the original Jewish neighborhoods of San Diego, though I am, and not because I have two soon-to-be-three synagogues and the Chabad of East County in my district, though I do.

8:26:09

The resolution is clear.

8:26:11

Free speech will not be curtailed.

8:26:13

Councilmember Whitburn just explained it very clearly.

8:26:16

This resolution is a tool to protect people from anti-Semitism.

8:26:21

A society that cannot protect its Jewish citizens cannot protect democracy.

8:26:26

And a society that won't protect its Jewish citizens can hardly call itself a democracy.

8:26:33

Protecting the Jewish community begins at the very least with clearly defining the harm it faces.

8:26:42

Last summer, I visited Israel.

8:26:47

I visited Yad Vashem.

8:26:50

That's the world's Holocaust Remembrance Center.

8:26:54

It's a memorial to the name of those lost to the Holocaust.

8:27:00

And to this day, only about five million of the six million Jews murdered in the Holocaust have been identified by name.

8:27:08

One million remain unidentified.

8:27:11

So to me, remembering the Holocaust is a duty, and defining anti-Semitism clearly is the first step and living out that duty.

8:27:24

The resolution before us, which is the IRA definition, at its core is about defining anti-Semitism where it shows up here in our communities.

8:27:51

And even worse, justify.

8:30:09

I believe the word he used was we should not have to be a shield all on our own.

8:30:15

He said we need more voices.

8:30:17

People of different races, people of different generations, people like me.

8:30:24

Everyone to speak up against anti-Semitism.

8:30:27

And he's right.

8:30:30

Of course, flyering is a small thing compared to what happened in 2019 when the Chabad of Pawi, just miles from here, was the site of a deadly anti-Semitism attack on the last day of Passover.

8:30:44

Lori Gilbert Kay, may her memory be a blessing.

8:30:47

That tragedy reminds us that anti-Semitism is not a distant problem that belongs to another country or another era.

8:30:54

It's a scourge that's here in our community, in my community, and we need tools to combat it.

8:31:00

Tools like the IRA definition, which provide a framework.

8:31:04

Historically, anti-Semitism has been described as the canary in the coal mine of society because hatred towards Jews, when it begins to spread, it rarely stays confined to the Jewish community for long.

8:31:17

It's a warning sign that tolerance, intolerance, and extremism are taking root more broadly.

8:31:24

Because if we cannot name the hatred clearly, we cannot protect the democracy we claim to serve the noted Jewish sage and teacher, Hillel, once wrote, and I quote if I am not for myself, who will be for me?

8:31:40

And if I am only for myself, what am I?

8:31:44

That wisdom speaks not to just millennia of Jewish identity, but to civic responsibility for everyone.

8:31:50

Today this council has the opportunity to say clearly that standing against anti-Semitism is not only about protecting one community, it's about protecting all communities.

8:31:59

It's about defending pluralistic values.

8:32:02

Folks in this room also know that Hillel's quote did not end there.

8:32:07

He goes on to ask the all-important question.

8:32:11

If not now, when I say to my colleagues and to my constituents and to the thousands of members of every community in San Diego standing before us, physically and virtually, I have an answer to that question.

8:32:25

The time is now.

8:32:27

Stand against anti-Semitism now, right now.

8:32:31

The fight against anti-Semitism is not a responsibility for some distant future, it's a responsibility for now.

8:32:38

The moment to stand against hatred is not someday or when it's politically comfortable.

8:32:42

It is now.

8:32:44

Attacks against the Jewish community are happening right now.

8:32:48

Synagogues are being firebombed and vandalized right now, and young people are being fed conspiracies right now, being taught Holocaust denialism right now.

8:32:58

So we need frameworks to combat that right now.

8:33:05

Let us not leave Hillel's final question unanswered.

8:33:09

We should answer it with clarity and with conviction.

8:33:13

The question before us is whether we will stand against anti-Semitism.

8:33:17

The answer must be now.

8:33:22

Thank you.

8:33:25

All right, so we have a motion by Councilmember Whitburn and a second by Councilmember Campio to move the recommendation.

8:33:31

We'll go next to Councilmember Campbell.

8:33:34

Thank you, Council President, and thank you, Ryan Darcy, for the presentation.

8:33:40

And thank you especially to my colleague, Councilmember Whitburn for bringing this forward.

8:33:46

And I want to thank you and Councilmember Campillo for your excellent words and for delving so deeply into the entire matter of this resolution and taking all that you did into consideration.

8:34:01

And I want to start by explaining that this item before us is a resolution.

8:34:07

It is not a law.

8:34:09

A resolution is not a law.

8:34:11

Freedom in America still exists.

8:34:51

We've been doing so well.

8:34:58

I've already explained that.

8:35:00

I'm not going to go back and talk about it again.

8:35:05

I didn't say that.

8:35:07

You know I didn't say that.

8:35:16

Because it is okay.

8:35:17

I think it's not about anticipation.

8:35:19

Okay.

8:35:21

But then we want to pass it in order.

8:35:25

I haven't spoken yet.

8:35:29

Okay, I've been accused of a double standard.

8:35:31

We'll invite you to leave the room as well.

8:35:33

We need to get on.

8:35:34

We're so close to wrapping everything up.

8:35:37

Please don't clap.

8:35:38

Please don't clap.

8:35:39

This is only about disruption.

8:35:41

It is not about any particular.

8:35:44

Okay, double standard and hypocrisy.

8:35:46

I got it.

8:35:54

My apologies, Councilmember Campbell.

8:36:28

Thank you, Council President.

8:36:33

We are living in a time when two of the world's leading democratic nations, the United States and Israel, due to their current leadership, have lost the respect of many of their own people and citizens from around the globe.

8:36:51

Most people believe in the right of all people to live in peace and free from discrimination and hatred.

8:37:00

To quote President Lincoln, this too shall pass.

8:37:05

The good people of the United States and hopefully Israel will prevail at the voting booth.

8:37:13

As an American, I feel compelled to speak today against the harassment or discrimination based on actual or perceived Jewish identity, ancestry, or faith.

8:37:29

When rhetoric crosses the line into harmful stereotypes, collective blame, or dehumanizing language, it does real harm.

8:37:41

It creates fear, it isolates members of our community, and it undermines the values we are here to uphold as Americans.

8:37:53

Let me be clear.

8:39:05

As the definition states, quote, anti-Semitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews.

8:39:34

Against anybody, including the Muslim community.

8:39:39

By adopting this definition, we reaffirm our commitment to protecting religious freedom, confronting anti-Semitism, and ensuring that every member of our community can live without fur, without fear.

8:39:58

All right.

8:39:58

Thank you, Councilmember Campbell.

8:40:00

And again, apologies for the interruption.

8:40:02

We'll go next to Councilmember Von Wolbert.

8:40:06

Thank you, and thank you to the volunteers on the Human Relations Commission and to my colleagues and to all who participated in our democracy today.

8:40:15

I want to start with a very uncomfortable truth that anti-Semitism is not a relic of the past.

8:40:22

Antisemitism is rising to libels, rising to levels we have not seen in generations.

8:40:27

Last year we watched in horror as the news broke on December 14th of a shooting at Sydney's Bondi Beach where two gunmen opened fire on a Jewish celebration, killing 15 people celebrating Hanukkah.

8:40:37

Less than a month later, a violent anti-violent anti-Semitic act hit home, especially for me, when arsonists heavily damaged Mississippi's largest synagogue before dawn.

8:40:49

I lived in Jackson for three years when I worked there as a civil rights lawyer in Mississippi.

8:40:53

And when I reached out to my friends there to express my condolences, they told me this was the same synagogue in Jackson that the Klu Klux Klan had bombed in 1967 because the rabbi had supported civil rights at the time.

8:41:12

As a self-proclaimed white supremacist armed with an AR-15, killed one workship or injured three others, including the rabbi.

8:41:19

That shooter lived in my district.

8:41:23

Synagogues are attacked with disturbing regularity.

8:41:25

Last week, in seven days, we saw seven attacks on synagogues here and around the world.

8:41:30

And just a few weeks ago, on January 30th, in this very room, my public safety committee held a hearing on the prosecution of anti-Semitic felony hate crimes committed here in San Diego.

8:41:42

We heard members of this body heard firsthand how Jewish schools, community centers have to operate behind security checkpoints.

8:41:50

We heard how many students were bullied in their classrooms just because they were Jewish.

8:41:54

For many Jewish families today, simply participating in their life, going to temple, sending kids to Hebrew school, attending a Hotka party means going under armed guard and do metal detectors.

8:42:05

Participating openly in your culture and your history and your identity should never require armed protection.

8:42:10

During our time on the council, this council has worked to confront anti-Semitism in all forms of hate directly by shining a light on it by pushing for stronger coordination between law enforcement and our Jewish community leaders to expand Holocaust education even here in San Diego with Ruth Remember Us the Holocaust Project.

8:42:29

Today's resolution sends a simple message that hate and violence towards Jewish people has no place in our community.

8:42:37

But we need to be clear about something else.

8:42:40

In America, the right to free speech is fundamental.

8:42:43

People have the right to express views we disagree with, even if that speech makes our blood boil.

8:42:49

Adopting this definition is not about policing speech, and the city should never use it for that purpose.

8:42:55

It's about making clear where our values are in recognizing anti-Semitism when it crosses that line into violence, vandalism, or harassment.

8:43:04

For many Jewish people, a connection to Israel is part of their identity, faith, and story as a people.

8:43:10

And I know we all have very deep and passionate views about Israel and Palestine, and for good reason.

8:43:16

But this comes down to basic decency with each other, compassion and respect for one another.

8:43:22

Whether you support Israel are passionate about Palestinian rights, or support both, as many of us do, we all have to be better to each other.

8:43:31

And words matter.

8:43:33

Criticizing policies of the Israeli government, just like criticizing any other government, including our own here in this room in this nation, is protected speech and part of a healthy debate.

8:43:43

The very definition of anti-Semitism we are adopting today says that, quote, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as anti-Semitic.

8:43:53

I've been clear on this too.

8:43:56

I believe that policies like annexation and settlement expansion and settler violence are wrong.

8:44:01

Palestinians deserve dignity, security, and a seat of their own.

8:44:05

And for Jewish people, I also believe that Jewish people deserve to live safely and securely in Israel and not be demonized for it.

8:44:13

These values are not mutually exclusive.

8:44:16

In fact, they are mutually, we need to do this together for security and peace for all people.

8:44:23

And when the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism, the way I read it, has room for distinguishing between speech that is criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country, and criticism of a Jewish homeland that is dangerous and often crosses the line into anti-Semitism.

8:44:41

In fact, I'm reading it here.

8:44:44

This definition includes 11th examples that describe ways that Jews may experience anti-sa anti-Semitism today, may experience, taking into account the overall context.

8:45:00

So, under this definition, I do not view anything that you said today, Council Ralila Rivera, and I very much appreciate your passion how hard this is for you.

8:45:06

I don't view anything you said today as anti-Semitic.

8:45:09

But the caller who called in in this public comment tonight and said that in his view, because of the actions of the Israeli government, Jewish children in public schools in San Diego deserve to be spit on, is anti-Semitic.

8:45:24

And this definition states context matters.

8:45:30

And we must also reject those who cynically weaponize anti-Semitism for their own political agendas, starting with President Donald Trump.

8:45:38

What Trump is doing to attack our universities, go after asylum seekers in the name of combating anti-Semitism is as shameful as it is transparent.

8:45:46

It has nothing to do with protecting Jewish people's safety, but advancing Trump's extremist agenda and further dividing our country.

8:45:52

Donald Trump called the neo-Nazis and white supremacist at the 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, quote, very fine people.

8:46:01

He has hosted Holocaust deniers for dinner at Mar-a-Lago.

8:46:07

Trump is normalizing the very forces fueling anti-Semitism, and I oppose it in Washington, and I won't stand for it here in San Diego.

8:46:16

But for me tonight, there's also something missing from this whole conversation today.

8:46:20

As I said at the very beginning of my comments last month, I held a hearing here in this very room at my public safety committee on how the city can do more to fight anti-Semitism, acts of hate, and acts of violence.

8:46:32

We weren't discussing just a definition, we were discussing real action and real victims.

8:46:38

There were some of you who were here with us, and we shared very touching stories.

8:46:42

But I have to say this room is virtually empty for that hearing.

8:46:47

So yes, I very much appreciate the passion we are seeing here today, and I'm glad people are engaged in our government.

8:46:52

These are serious issues.

8:46:53

But I'll be honest, I'm also disappointed.

8:46:56

Because we should all be here in just as passionate and engaged, if not more, about actually confronting anti-Semitism as we are about how to define it.

8:47:08

So I know that this IHRA definition is not perfect.

8:47:12

It is a working definition.

8:47:14

I welcome other perspectives and continued input from the community.

8:47:18

But as part of the public comment on this item, we all received an email.

8:47:22

We we read the written comments too, and I received a very thoughtful letter from Rabbi Jason Navarez, the senior rabbi at Congregation Beth Israel here in San Diego, who I'd hope to meet the day of the Tree of Life Memorial after a shooting, the worst shooting against Jewish people in this nation.

8:47:40

So many people came to mourn at Congregation Beth Israel that night in 2023 that I couldn't even get in.

8:47:46

And I mourned with people in the parking lot of all races, all faiths, all identities.

8:47:52

He wrote to us and said the IHRA definition provides guidance, not punishment, and serves as an educational tool to help civic leaders, educators, and law enforcement respond more and more effectively when anti-Semitism appears.

8:48:06

I may ask my colleagues for a minute if anyone has one.

8:48:10

Okay.

8:48:11

Adopting the IHRA definition, Rabbi Navare's rights, also does not place Jewish concerns above those of other communities.

8:48:20

San Diego must remain vigilant against racism, Islamophobia, xenophobia, anti-black hatred, and every form of bigotry.

8:48:28

Naming anti-Semitism clearly is one part of that broader commitment to protecting every community in our city.

8:48:36

I want to thank the rabbi for his leadership and beautiful words.

8:48:40

And I want to thank everybody for being here tonight.

8:48:44

I support this resolution because I support free speech in this country, and I support the need to have the responsibility to call out hate and protect our communities, even when the issues are difficult and complex.

8:48:55

Everyone, including the Jewish community, deserves to feel safe here in San Diego, just like every community.

8:49:01

Thank you.

8:49:03

All right, thank you, Councilmember Von Wolpert.

8:49:05

We'll go next to Councilmember Foster.

8:49:08

Thank you, Council President, and thank you to my colleagues.

8:49:26

And also just want to acknowledge my my colleagues.

8:49:41

So I feel a little, I must say I feel uncomfortable at this present moment.

8:49:50

But just as I begin, I just want to say clearly and intentionally that I denounce all forms of racism, discrimination, hatred, bigotry.

8:50:00

But just as I begin, I just want to say clearly and intentionally that I denounce all forms of racism, discrimination, hatred, bigotry, and that includes anti-Semitism.

8:50:11

This is not something that I take lightly.

8:50:21

And it's something that I'm very passionate about.

8:50:32

And quite honestly, I think sometimes it's easier to walk away.

8:50:36

But I keep getting drawn back because I truly believe we can be a better San Diego.

8:50:48

And often you hear me say as a black man in America, life is difficult.

8:51:00

I'm 54 years old, and I am still met with hate.

8:51:15

We don't have the ability to not wear a certain piece of jewelry or to wear certain pieces of clothing.

8:51:28

We are viewed on the color of our skin.

8:51:32

And that's something that we have to walk in every day.

8:51:52

But it was a real reality.

8:51:55

Violence was a real reality.

8:51:57

I say I went to Hampton University as a young man early in my years at Hampton.

8:52:06

There was a young black boy that was found hung at a park.

8:52:13

It was something that I will never ever forget.

8:52:18

And that was in my freshman year.

8:52:21

And it's something that I never thought that I would see or have to experience.

8:52:44

And these are real realities, and goes back to my comments where I said America's not perfect.

8:52:52

But it's about how we conduct ourselves and what we bring to the table.

8:53:10

I think all of us will agree that this is wrong.

8:53:14

Anti-Semitism is wrong.

8:53:17

Any type of hate is wrong, whether it's race, religious, gender identity.

8:53:25

I think you have consensus amongst this council and the mayor.

8:53:31

I don't want to speak on behalf of the mayor, but I think I know him pretty well.

8:53:35

Unacceptable.

8:54:05

And as we went back through the record, I didn't, I was not able to find a copy of meeting minutes.

8:54:12

If I can have a little more time, please.

8:54:14

I did not find meeting minutes.

8:54:17

I could not access the video to watch the actual meeting that took place, to see what the conversation was, who was in included in the conversation.

8:54:30

So Ryan, if you can help me to understand what took place, what did not take place, why is that information not available for the public to see is based on what I sat through and have seen today.

8:54:46

This is a very um important conversation on all sides of the discussion.

8:55:00

And so I would think that that type of transparency is necessary as we are talking about something that is so impactful to everyone's lives in the city of San Diego.

8:55:09

So can you help me to understand um what took place because no information was available?

8:55:16

Yeah, thank you, Councilmember, for the question.

8:55:18

Um I received that information from the executive uh director uh that works with the Human Relations Commission.

8:55:27

Um and I would invite anyone that's from the Human Relations Commission that's here today um that can take I don't know about the process in which um you know minutes are uploaded.

8:55:37

Uh that's a process question for the commission, but I would invite any of them up to there today to uh know what that pro related what that process is like.

8:55:46

Well, I see the executive director here, if we can understand.

8:55:49

Um I just as I was sitting on the dais went to the website to look for the information, and I saw other than the agenda from the March meeting, I have not seen any other types of documentation.

8:56:06

Good evening, uh Council members, and thank you for your question, uh Councilmember Foster.

8:56:11

Uh if you if you do in fact go to the website, uh March is there, the March when we had this meeting, when we had the individuals come forth before the commission to give testimony, as well as we also uh did the actual minutes, the minutes showed up in June for the March meeting.

8:56:33

And so that was on the website, and it did in fact say that it was a unanimous uh decision that was made of by all the commissioners there.

8:56:43

And then you have copies of the minutes that are that are here from March 19, and then we'll get you a the copy of the ones from June as well.

8:56:54

So if I can clarify, I'm on the website now, sir.

8:56:58

Yes, sir.

8:56:58

I am at the 319 2025 meeting.

8:57:01

Yes, sir.

8:57:02

That says March 19, 2025.

8:57:04

It's a PDF.

8:57:06

When I open that file, it only shows the agenda for said meeting.

8:57:11

Right.

8:57:11

You said it came up in June.

8:57:13

Right.

8:57:13

When I go to the June meeting, I see a 618 2025.

8:57:19

What I see is a link that says the June 18, 2025, and it says adjourned.

8:57:26

And it is an adjournment of the meeting.

8:57:28

So I do not see the meeting minutes or the appropriate documentation that details out the conversations that took place.

8:57:39

I I do understand your statement, sir, and uh the minutes for that meeting are in fact uh I sent those out to both the uh the the former chair as well as the new chair for for those minutes and they were there.

8:57:53

I found both of the the minutes there that covered uh the actual March meeting.

8:58:01

So they are there, sir.

8:58:03

And if you'd like me to send those to you, I can forward it to you right now.

8:58:06

Well, I don't think it's uh again I'm looking at it now, sir, and I'm telling you they are not there.

8:58:13

Okay.

8:58:14

And so um I can appreciate what you're indicating, but my question is where would one find that documentation?

8:58:22

Well, sir, it's it seems like I have to forward the documentation to you if you didn't find it on the website, sir.

8:58:28

But how would the public find that information?

8:58:32

Well, we published that that actual information, sir.

8:58:35

We published the minutes that's there, and for whatever reason that you can't find them, I I don't know, but I will send those to you and to the general public as well.

8:58:45

This is a mayoral this is a mayoral commission, correct?

8:58:50

Yes, sir.

8:58:52

Coda, can you take a moment and see what you see on the website and what's there and direct me to where it's at, sir, or am I incorrect?

8:58:59

I'm seeing the same thing you're seeing here.

8:59:00

You're seeing the same thing I'm seeing?

8:59:02

That's correct, Councilmember.

8:59:04

Okay.

8:59:04

I think we'll have to follow up afterwards and check with the Office of Boards and Commissions to make sure all of our commissions are trained properly on how to post meeting minutes and meeting record recordings as required.

8:59:15

Okay, thank you for that.

8:59:16

And um and I'm just making this the this uh I'm bringing this to light because again, as we are talking about something as significant as this, I think it's important that we are transparent, we are inclusive, and that we have a a documentation trail as we talk about robust conversations, right?

8:59:39

Um my colleague mentioned um that it appears that there was um a one-sided conversation, that the conversation was not inclusive.

8:59:50

Is that accurate, somewhat accurate?

8:59:54

I'd like to think Ryan, if you were staffing this and you guys are championing this this item that you did your due diligence.

9:00:02

Can you respond to that?

9:00:05

I mean uh yeah, uh, thank you for the question, Councilmember.

9:00:08

Um, I would take that from exactly the commissioners that I heard from, which was that there was in fact a robust discussion.

9:00:15

In fact, there was both sides represented on this issue, and I would take those commissioners who are sworn in commissioners with the city of San Diego, I would take them at their word that that was what happened.

9:00:28

Okay.

9:00:29

Um I guess my next question um would be in um just as I'm gathering my thoughts and and as I look at what the the discourse that I saw play out in this room, and I want to go to the um letter that two commissioners recently submitted.

9:00:57

Um in here it says the mission of the Sandy of the City of San Diego's Human Relations Commission is to create an atmosphere that promotes amicable relations among all members of the San Diego community.

9:01:11

Um I just have to say, as you look at the conversation, the discourse that took place on all sides, it really left me with the impression that this conversation was is not done.

9:01:30

Um and so that is concerning to me, as you are representing to me that there was an inclusive process, an open process, and all sides at the table or or all sides of this conversation were representative at the table.

9:01:49

Um so I do find that concerning.

9:01:53

Um the other thing that I must say as I listen to the public comment, and what I haven't been able to connect is truly what the intentions of what we are trying to accomplish.

9:02:08

As you have heard that this is non-binding, that this does not um solve the issue or diminish anti-semitism at time anti-Semitic activities.

9:02:27

You hear a young person come and say, I experienced this and I want to be able to go to school and not have the problems.

9:02:34

Can you explain to me how this solves those concerns and those safety issues?

9:02:43

Yeah, thank you, Councilmember.

9:02:45

I think um, you know, because cities are not just zoning bodies, uh, they also set norms, uh, they respond to hate incidents, they support affected communities, and they train staff.

9:02:56

A city, I think, cannot respond coherently uh to anti-Semitism if it refuses to define what it's trying to recognize.

9:03:04

And so I think um a city that wants to confront anti-Semitism should be willing to define it.

9:03:10

Otherwise, every incident starts from scratch.

9:03:14

So let me ask this question of the city attorneys.

9:03:18

Does this document solve the issue of someone driving a vehicle into a synagogue?

9:03:27

Prosecution of hate crimes or crimes in general would fall under the penal code.

9:03:32

So we have the existing, I think the ACLU called in and said we have existing penal codes, hate crimes, things of the sort that take care of these issues, correct?

9:03:46

Yes, thank you, council member.

9:03:47

There are penal code sections on point that do address and define hate crimes.

9:03:52

Okay, so so at the end of the day, as we are trying to deal with the uptick of anti-Semitism, the actual violent acts, things to that nature, we do have things in place.

9:04:08

Um and I'm asking from a position of is there something else we need to do to make sure that we are creating a safe environment.

9:04:19

That that's where I'm going with my question.

9:04:23

Um I would say that existing uh civil rights um law prohibit discrimination, but they do not provide a clear framework for identifying modern forms of anti-Semitism.

9:04:36

IRA help, IRA helps institutions understand how anti-Semitism can manifest today, including through conspiracy theories, holocaust, holocaust denial, and certain forms of anti-Jewish rhetoric.

9:04:48

Um existing law and IRA are not uh complimentary tools.

9:05:00

I don't I don't know if I'm necessarily connecting the dots, and I just as I listen to my colleague from the public safety, the public safety chair.

9:05:07

I think she did put a call, a very specific call out, I do believe, as to what actions can we take to actually look at curbing anti-Semitism and the true issues.

9:05:18

I think my colleague, other colleague, took some action on what was it?

9:05:24

Um the the flyers and the hate mail and certain things like that.

9:05:29

I guess I'm asking are there other things that we need to be considering in addition to something like this to actually what I think is going to address the concerns of a young person being able to be themselves, who they are, represent their culture.

9:05:49

Are there other things that we need to do or other things that are going to come about this?

9:05:54

And I I'm driving this question because I feel like there's as I look at it again.

9:06:00

I'm gonna go back to being an African American.

9:06:02

I feel like there's other things that we need to do.

9:06:04

I don't see I see similarities in the issues and the concerns and the safety of what our Jewish friends go through.

9:06:14

And so that's why I'm asking the question and the manner in which I'm asking.

9:06:19

So, council member, to be fair to everyone, you've had your five plus three and plus someone gave you another two.

9:06:24

I understand, and I appreciate that.

9:06:27

But we'll give you one, somebody's giving you one more minute.

9:06:31

I appreciate that.

9:06:33

Yeah, I would say, you know, I think one of the first things we do in recognizing when we have a problem is defining it, and that's what exactly this resolution does.

9:06:41

Um I would invite up, we have the executive director of the anti-Semitism Task Force.

9:06:46

I can speak more to it if you'd like.

9:06:47

Uh Liot's here.

9:06:55

Thank you.

9:06:56

So I'm gonna agree with Ryan.

9:06:58

We need to define anti-Semitism before we can do anything with it.

9:07:03

So, first we need to have an understanding.

9:07:05

The second thing is work with the now that we have a definition of anti-Semitism, work with law enforcement.

9:07:11

Make sure they receive the right training.

9:07:13

They understand what anti-Semitism looks like in the city of San Diego.

9:07:17

Then we work with the school boards and with educators.

9:07:20

We bring in Holocaust education.

9:07:23

We bring in, we have you know on Holocaust survivors, we do that all the time at uh stand with us, introducing them to schools.

9:07:31

We first need a definition, though.

9:07:34

Without a definition, we can't even have these conversations because if everybody has in their mind a different definition of what anti-Semitism is, then we can actually address it.

9:07:44

And this is why we're here voting on it today.

9:07:48

So I I guess I'll end here.

9:07:50

I appreciate that.

9:07:51

Um I think at the end of the day, what I hear is no matter if it's we still have more work to do to what I think is to really address the concerns and the issues that exist.

9:08:03

Um, and I will say this not only do we need is there more work to do as we talk about the Jewish community, but I think there's more work to do as a whole, which is why I think the conversation of being inclusive is so important.

9:08:17

Um and I think um at times when we try to address one offs, we tend to do a a great disservice.

9:08:26

Um the other thing that I will ask is um, and I haven't had the information, but it's my understanding that there are other um definitions that exist.

9:08:36

I did not see it in the um in the um documents why were can you tell me why this very specific one was picked versus other things that exist or that are being that are discussed and are out there that other organizations tend to promote and use?

9:08:56

Yeah, thank you, council member.

9:08:58

Uh, because IRA is the most widely adopted governmental framework and gives the city a recognized already usable tool.

9:09:04

That does not mean alternative frameworks are worthless, it just means IRA is the broader institutional uptake that um when I mentioned in my presentation that throughout the world that has been widely used.

9:09:19

So just simply it's broader again.

9:09:24

I would just say that IRA is the most widely used governmental framework.

9:09:27

Um, so the city is choosing the most established operational tool, not trying to end um every academic disagreement, but it's just obviously the standard.

9:09:37

Did I misunderstand you?

9:09:39

I thought you used the word broader previously.

9:09:42

No, I said I said broadly used across the world.

9:09:49

Yes.

9:09:50

Okay.

9:09:50

Alrighty, thank you.

9:09:52

Um council president.

9:09:54

That um concludes my uh line of question at this moment.

9:10:00

Okay, thank you, Councilmember Foster.

9:10:02

Uh we'll go next to Council President Pro Tam Lee.

9:10:06

Thank you, Council President.

9:10:08

I want to start this discussion by being clear, which is that anti-Semitism is real, it is persistent, and it has been rising in very troubling ways in recent years.

9:10:20

We've seen this not just nationally, but here locally as well.

9:10:24

I'm certainly appalled by some of the stories members of the public have shared about their experiences in our community with anti-Semitic hate in our district, as you might have heard from one of their earlier public commenters.

9:10:36

Our office is working directly with a local Chabad after hate flyers were distributed at their doors, scattered in their parking lot and into the street, picked up by other residents and even middle schoolers next door.

9:10:48

These kinds of incidents have a real impact on people's sense of safety and belonging.

9:10:54

I've also visited multiple congregations and the Jewish community center, all in my district, and have seen firsthand the level of security that is now necessary, which in itself speaks to the reality of what many in our Jewish community are facing.

9:11:09

I also want to acknowledge that this is not unique to one community.

9:11:14

We've seen similar patterns of increased hate and targeting in recent years in the form of Islamophobia, anti-LGBTQ hate, and even anti-Asian hate.

9:11:25

When one community is targeted, it undermines safety and belonging for all of us.

9:11:31

Antisemitism must be addressed and challenged.

9:11:37

I also think it's important to acknowledge the concerns that are being raised today about First Amendment rights, about free speech, and about the ability to express views, including criticism of any government, including Israel.

9:11:51

Those are fundamental principles and they should not be dismissed.

9:11:55

I do not believe that those speaking in favor of the IHRA definition should be assumed to be seeking to suppress free speech when they are simply seeking to protect their community.

9:12:07

Similarly, I do not believe that those speaking out against this definition or expressing criticism of Israel should be broadly labeled as anti-Semitic.

9:12:19

It is concerning to me that Councilmember Ila Rivera, as a Jewish community member of this council, has expressed frustration about not being engaged in this discussion.

9:12:30

And I recognize that not everyone may agree, but no one should have their Jewish identity or heritage questioned based on a difference of opinion.

9:12:40

At the end of the day, I do believe that this resolution presents a non-binding framework that defines anti-Semitism, while also stating that nothing in this action changes or limits constitutional protections.

9:13:06

As a member of this council, I will always respect any speaker's right to criticize any government body, including this one.

9:13:15

It's with all this in mind that I am supporting this item today.

9:13:19

More importantly, I don't believe this is the end of the discussion.

9:13:24

There's more work to be done to address anti-Semitism, more to ensure that our efforts do not do so and suppress the rights of those who might disagree.

9:13:33

Today's discussion has made clear how deeply and divergently our communities feel, even how around how anti-Semitism is defined.

9:13:44

That divide is real and it must be addressed.

9:13:50

As we move forward, I'd like to ask that our Human Relations Commission continue the difficult work of helping us navigate how we protect free speech while upholding fundamental rights.

9:14:12

Including, but certainly not limited to Islamophobia, anti-LGBTQ hate, anti-Asian hate, and that we continue to engage a broad range of perspectives so that we truly stand for all of our marginalized communities.

9:14:44

I've always had a particular bias just to make the request and get an acknowledgement rather than building it into the motion.

9:14:49

That's my personal bias.

9:14:51

Is that possible?

9:14:52

Yes, it is.

9:14:53

City attorney.

9:14:55

Yes, thank you.

9:14:56

Is generally preferred to make the request, but not included in the motion.

9:15:00

But it is certainly permissible to make the request.

9:15:03

Well, Councilmember Whitburn, I would ask if you would uh include an amendment to the motion uh that includes a request of the Human Relations Commission to make sure I just have it right from what I wrote to ensure that other forms of hatred are equally addressed and even defined, uh including but certainly not limited to Islamophobia, anti-LGBTQ hate as well as anti-Asian hate.

9:15:34

Rather than conflate that with the motion that is in front of us, I would like to take that up as a separate motion.

9:15:41

I would support it.

9:15:46

Is that possible?

9:15:49

Um I will allow it.

9:15:51

Let's deal with this motion, get a vote, and then we'll go back to you, Council President Pro Tem Lee.

9:15:58

That concludes my comments, Council President.

9:16:01

All right.

9:16:01

Uh thank you, Council President Pro Tem uh Lee.

9:16:05

Uh thank you to all my colleagues uh for your powerful words.

9:16:10

Um I want to thank each of you that came before council, especially those that have stuck it out for the entirety, even the four that were escorted out over the course of that meeting.

9:16:22

I appreciate their willingness to come and talk, and certainly those who participated remotely.

9:16:27

I want to thank the Human Relations Commission for their work and Councilmember Whitburn and the D3 team for bringing this item forward.

9:16:36

I'm not looking for a lot of love, but I had to make a decision about whether to docket this.

9:16:41

And as soon as Councilmember Whitburn said, I want to bring this forward, I said yes, and we scheduled it for the earliest possible date.

9:16:52

I recognize that this discussion is taking place amid uncertainty in the Middle East.

9:16:56

It is impossible to ignore the reverberations of those military actions here at home.

9:17:01

Many of our communities are facing real concern, real hurt, and real trauma in the face of this conflict.

9:17:06

And as a council, we strive to hear from all our constituents and above all to ensure that every single resident feels safe and welcome in our city.

9:17:14

The spirit of today's conversation is to consider adopting a working definition, is not a departure from our values.

9:17:21

It presents an opportunity to reaffirm our commitment to stand against hate and to foster communities that care from one another.

9:17:28

It is clear that hate, and in particular hate against Jewish communities, is on the rise globally, nationally, and locally.

9:17:42

As many as have has acknowledged, this action won't stop anti-semitism.

9:17:48

But it does offer the possibility of hope and a reaffirmation of our city's values and a commitment of safety.

9:17:56

One of the privileges of going last is also to put a context in this conversation.

9:18:02

I think you've heard uh, despite each of my council members in their own particular way, that a unanimous feeling about anti-Semitism is unacceptable, and that we as a council are committed to do everything within our power, our jurisdiction, to fight against anti-Semitism.

9:18:22

I also did not hear any criticism about the mayor's office, city hall, our police department, our working definition of hate before we got here, and how we've addressed the rise in hate crimes, clearly has dramatically and unacceptably arisen.

9:18:45

But I didn't hear anybody complain, or our city employees and how the city employees behave.

9:18:51

And I think that's an important distinction that we should all recognize.

9:18:55

This is going in a different direction above and beyond what the city is already doing and doing well with the resources we have.

9:19:06

We are in challenging times.

9:19:08

The mayor's committed, this council's committed, our police force is committed as well.

9:19:14

And it's a struggle we'll continue to face and meet head on.

9:19:19

My thought, I have to, I struggle a little bit because I'm a little bit of a policy wonk, and I think perhaps a little deeper and about words, because I have found council administrator or council members and administrations in the past have somehow gotten lost when they think about the big idea and then they forget the details about how to actually execute.

9:19:43

I would have felt, despite the amazing work by the Human Relations Commission, despite the good work by District 3 and the four or five six hours now going on.

9:20:00

I don't think anybody spent more time on this than the IRA in putting forth their work.

9:20:05

I reflected on the work that they did and the careful language they put in to their document on May 26, 2016.

9:20:16

Took 10 years to get it in front of us.

9:20:20

I find this language and the adoption of this language to be a much more powerful action by us.

9:20:28

Oh, actually, see some thumbs up.

9:20:30

Thank you.

9:20:31

Um it goes beyond just the non-legally binding working definition.

9:20:36

They said it twice, non-legally binding working definition of antestetism in this document.

9:20:47

They also took the time to say to guide IHRA in their work.

9:20:54

The following examples may serve as illustrations.

9:20:57

A much softer tone than what our resolution says.

9:21:12

Criminal acts are anti-Semitic when the targets of attacks, and I won't read the whole thing.

9:21:24

This is the language I would have preferred.

9:21:26

I think this really reflects what HR IHRA IRA was really doing, and what everybody spoke so eloquently, and what was so very important.

9:21:37

In a perfect world, this is what would have gotten written up in the resolution.

9:21:43

I am a little concerned, and there's always an opportunity, as Councilmember Campbell said, it's only a resolution.

9:21:50

It is, let me be very blunt, the lowest form of what we can do.

9:21:54

And it's the easiest thing.

9:21:56

We don't have to go to committee.

9:21:57

It can be direct docketed to council, which gives us opportunity to change if it's causing problems.

9:22:04

And I would look to each of you, no matter which side you are on, to let us know if it is causing problems, if it is causing the police department to go off in different directions, if it is causing other groups to accuse people of things that this thing was not intended to.

9:22:21

So your work is not done yet.

9:22:23

And I know for many of you, your work is never done in this conversation.

9:22:27

Having said that, a different resolution in a different era and something less um passion about.

9:22:36

Um I was on the border of saying of voting no on this because I wanted the IRA work and not the resolution.

9:22:44

And that means no respect to my council colleague going forward.

9:22:48

Uh, but I will be voting in support of this with the understanding that we may come back if it turns to be problematic, as some uh have predicted, we can always go back and fix something that is not cast in concrete, that is not legally binding, and as IRA has said, is a working definition, not the definition uh going forward.

9:23:12

So please come back, please keep us informed.

9:23:15

Um the Human Relations Commission, I also ask you to take that input and to bring us back going forward.

9:23:23

Part of my reason for voting yes is we have an awful lot of advisory board staffed by volunteers.

9:23:29

I want to show a level of respect.

9:23:31

I think you missed the mark a little bit, but I want to show the respect and take some action today.

9:23:36

So I will uh be supportive of that, as I said.

9:23:41

Uh Councilmember Ilo Rivera.

9:23:44

Thank you, Council President.

9:23:45

There's just one thing I do want to say, and and I mean this with complete respect, uh, because this is my truth.

9:23:54

The definition is already being weaponized.

9:23:57

And I know that so there's this conversation up here happening about there's this conversation up here happening about that as a hypothetical, but if it happens in the future, we need to address it.

9:24:10

And what I'm sharing is that since the presentation to the Human Relations Commission, the proponents of this, the folks who are associated with those who presented, have weaponized my words against me to say that I, despite all the stories and experiences that I shared, and feeding anti-Semitism through my through the words and actions that I've taken.

9:24:36

So I I want to get that on the record again because I it it feels quite honestly like it's being not dismissed by everyone, but dismissed by too many, and I I do have a problem with that.

9:24:50

Thank you.

9:24:51

All right, since I had about 35 seconds left, um, I take his work very seriously.

9:24:57

I've seen what he's talking about, I know what he's talking about.

9:25:00

For all of you that came stayed the entire six hours, whatever it's been, who fought so very hard for this.

9:25:06

I'm holding you to account to do self-control.

9:25:11

And to those who are opposed to this, the same for you, and to let us know.

9:25:18

We are a city that does not invite hate.

9:25:22

I do not understand why haters are going to hate and they're gonna find somebody to hate.

9:25:28

But this is a big pivotal moment, and it's gonna take every one of us to actually deliver what Councilmember Ila Rivera has been exposed to, what each of you have been exposed to, your families, your kids, your relatives, your friends, is unacceptable.

9:25:44

And we're only gonna get there if we're all joining in, respecting what each of us says.

9:25:48

I'm going, I'm gonna get off my soapbox.

9:25:51

But I think you get my point going forward.

9:25:54

And do not disappoint those of us who are voting yes on this.

9:25:58

Do not disappoint council member uh Whitburn for bringing this forward.

9:26:03

Um the city attorney wants to talk.

9:26:06

Yes, thank you, Council President.

9:26:07

Just to clarify before the vote is taken, there was some mention of a potential additional or second motion.

9:26:14

Once the vote is taken on the motion currently on the floor, the item will be concluded, and there cannot be a second motion.

9:26:20

Well, can you give us legal advice about how to get uh uh council president pro tems?

9:26:26

Because I think there is a general level of support for that.

9:26:29

The two options would be to make the request of the mayor's office to work with the commission to address those questions, or alternatively, uh you could put the request in the motion.

9:26:41

The first option would be preferred, but you could put it in the motion.

9:26:44

That would be legally permissible.

9:26:48

Well, as Robert rolls in his grave, I'll leave it up to you, Councilmember uh Whitburn.

9:26:54

Uh Council President Pro Tav Lee, uh could you again uh reiterate what your request was?

9:27:02

I've tried to write it work more cleanly at the moment.

9:27:05

Um, but it is to request the human relations commission equally address and define additional forms of racial discrimination and hate, ensuring we continue to engage a broad range of perspectives in order to support all marginalized communities.

9:27:31

Uh, and I think that there would be consensus about making that request.

9:27:36

I would be reluctant to incorporate it into the motion that's on the floor.

9:27:42

Uh but to the members of the human relations commission, I would respectfully ask uh if you would be willing to consider at the commission that which the council president of ProTeb is requesting.

9:28:00

Can I thank you?

9:28:03

Um I want to introduce you to our newest chair, uh Chair Jones, Stephen Jones, and he can make that decision.

9:28:14

One thing that I had mentioned to Ryan was that possibly we could provide you with a list of the things that we are currently working on that address this sort of thing, hate within the the very various communities, and then provide a way that we can you know have some discourse about what you would like to see more of and uh thank you, Chair Jones.

9:28:41

Uh you heard the request of the council president of Proteb.

9:28:45

Would you be willing to dock it consideration of his request?

9:28:49

Sure.

9:28:49

My name is Dr.

9:28:50

Stephen Jones.

9:28:51

I am the new chair of the Human Relations Commission.

9:28:54

It is an honor to be before you.

9:28:56

Let me say that.

9:28:57

Thank you for the deliberation.

9:28:59

Um, yes, we as a commission will take that on because hate in any direction weakens us all.

9:29:06

Thank you.

9:29:09

I would like to take uh the time to apologize to Councilman Seidel were there.

9:29:13

I think in uh heated moment I I misspoke and and certainly did not mean to disrespect you, so I sincerely apologize.

9:29:29

All right, we've generally tr uh recognized the law, but we've allowed the maker of the motion to control the motion going forward on the floor.

9:29:40

Uh Council President Pro Dem.

9:29:43

Council President President, I'm gonna respectfully request that if it's not going to be included in the motion because I think it's important here today.

9:29:50

I I'm supporting the item as it is.

9:29:52

I think it's it's important, and we've made the case for that.

9:29:55

Um but I think it's also fair to uh that that there we actually acknowledge the work that needs to be done.

9:30:00

The Human Relations Commission has already said that they're are embarking on that work, and so us putting it in writing, even if the resolution is the lowest form of what this council can do is a commitment that I think deserves to be made and that I believe would be broadly supported by this council.

9:30:16

And Council President Pro Temli, you have the commitment from the mayor's office to charge the HRC to take those actions and the Office of Boards and Commissions will track and monitor that to ensure that that's delivered.

9:30:26

Council President, I will respectfully ask for a vote on that amendment if it is not going to be accepted.

9:30:32

Um okay.

9:30:32

Well, let's give this city clerk uh is there a second to his amendment.

9:30:40

Um I'll give it to council member foster.

9:30:43

Um so we'll need to take a moment and let the city clerk get that up on the screen so everybody and if you have anything that you can share.

9:30:57

Point of clarification.

9:31:01

Oh, I guess as an amendment we can bring it without pre-public information, 72 hours ahead of the meeting that it's on the agenda.

9:31:12

Okay, just wanted to get that clarified.

9:31:15

Since it's a request.

9:31:18

It's a request or amendment.

9:31:19

Which is it?

9:31:20

Well, it's an amendment to embed the request into the motion.

9:31:26

Then it's not really a request.

9:31:28

It's yeah, the council has in many cases input it requests as a part of our motions.

9:31:36

And so Council President Pro Tembly, um, I the seconder of my motion and I just conferred.

9:31:43

Um we believe that including your language in the motion.

9:31:50

Uh in addition to the resolution that we are bringing forward uh is in line with what we would like to see the city advance.

9:32:01

So we will incorporate that into the motion.

9:32:05

Okay, without objection from Council President Pro Tem, uh, and does the second agree?

9:32:11

Yes yes, uh, Council President, I'll explain why.

9:32:14

That the resolution as drafted by Councilmember Whitburn's uh team and what's put in front of us is is still exactly what was before us.

9:32:24

There's just an additional level of addressing what Council President Pro Team uh Pro Tem Lee was talking about.

9:32:30

So the resolution supporting the IRA definition, condemning anti-semitism, and directing the city clerk and the mayor's staff to use the IRA definition as an educational tool and helping identify uh anti-Semitism remains completely intact.

9:32:47

Nothing about that's changing.

9:32:49

What's added in there is the additional direction, which I from what I could hear Councilmember Whipurne say, if it was a separate motion altogether, it would have passed anyway.

9:32:59

So the IRA definition is not a change, the resolution as is printed by the city uh attorney presented to the city clerk and ultimately delivered to the mayor is gonna remain exactly the same.

9:33:12

I think that it's an appropriate adjustment, and I think that uh we should move forward.

9:33:18

All right, without objection, can the city clerk um put up a new screen that adds both the original motion as well as this new language that's been added.

9:33:31

Yes, give us two minutes.

9:33:33

Do you have additional comments?

9:33:34

Yeah, I will just uh uh thank uh councilmember Campillo uh for making that point.

9:33:39

I think it is right.

9:33:40

Uh I I will explain my initial hesitation being that this is all about language, and so I want to be cautious about adjusting language on the fly.

9:33:51

Uh but I do think that council member uh Campio is correct in his assessment of uh the fact that both things continue on, and so uh I think it makes sense to include it.

9:34:02

So thank you.

9:34:03

Thank you.

9:34:36

I'm sorry, are you back on the lights?

9:34:39

Yes, Council President.

9:34:40

I just I want to I I I appreciate the amendment put forward by Council President Pro Tem.

9:34:44

I think it's important.

9:34:46

Um I think this is a better action as a result of it.

9:34:49

At the same time, because in my opinion, the item be before us, the resolution before us did not include the broad range of perspectives that we are asking to be included in the in the the defining of other forms of hate, the other efforts to to combat discrimination.

9:35:09

Um because I do not from the record see that the that broad range of the perspectives was included in the the drafting of the resolution before us, I still will not be supporting the motion, although I do believe that it's better as a result of the amendment.

9:35:22

Thank you.

9:35:23

All right, thank you, Councilmember Ila Rivera.

9:35:26

Um, not see anybody else lights.

9:35:27

Thank you, Councilmember Whitburn.

9:35:29

Thank you, Councilmember Campillo, thank you, Council President Pro Tim Lee.

9:35:34

So that is the motion uh on the screen, which includes both the original proposal, uh, the original action as well as the additional request to the human relations uh commission.

9:35:45

So with nobody else in the lights, uh, clerk, please call the roll.

9:35:49

Thank you, Council President.

9:35:50

I've started the voting system.

9:35:51

Please cast your vote.

9:35:57

And that passes eight to one with Councilmember Ila Rivera voting.

9:36:00

No.

9:36:01

Thank you, Council President.

9:36:31

Two times for a applause.

9:36:36

So with that, we will now adjourn council to the next regularly scheduled council meeting on Monday.

9:36:41

April 6th, 2026 at 10 A.M.

9:36:44

We are adjourned.

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Summary of Proceedings

San Diego City Council Meeting: March 17, 2026

The San Diego City Council met on March 17, 2026, to consider proclamations, a consent calendar, a housing authority update, a Barrio Logan community plan amendment, and a resolution to adopt the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) working definition of anti-Semitism. The meeting spanned from morning into evening, featuring extensive public testimony and council deliberation.

Consent Calendar

  • Item 50: Awarded as-needed dam design services agreement (HDR Engineering) – approved 7-1 (Councilmember Foster voted no).
  • Item 51: Reduced software service agreement for smart energy water web portal from $16.3M to $5.5M – approved.
  • Item 100: Accepted state funding for youth internship program (Employ and Empower) – approved.
  • Item 101: Reappointed Michael Zuquette to San Diego Unified Port District Board of Commissioners – approved.
  • Item S504: Accepted $2.5M state grant for Rancho Bernardo Community Park – approved.
  • Other consent items (10, 50–52, 100–102, S504–S507) approved unanimously with the above noted exception.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Proclamations: Public comments supported Transgender Day of Visibility, National Nutrition Month, Ramadan Month, Captain Jerry Hara Day, and Shane Hog Day. One speaker opposed the transgender proclamation; others voiced concerns about food safety and police response times.
  • Consent Calendar: Speakers supported Lake Hodges dam replacement and youth workforce programs; some opposed software contracts and raised concerns about data privacy and government accountability.
  • Housing Authority: Union members (SEIU) and employees protested layoffs of 33 staff, urging equitable cuts across management and frontline workers. Management cited $23.5M projected deficit.
  • Non-Agenda Public Comment: Residents discussed tax fraud in construction, public safety training, homelessness, sea lion protection at La Jolla Cove, Torrey Pines Gliderport disputes, and tobacco/marijuana regulations.
  • Barrio Logan Amendment: Community members and organizations (Environmental Health Coalition, Chicano Park Steering Committee) urged approval to correct zoning errors and protect parks; some demanded consultation with the Steering Committee.
  • IHRA Anti-Semitism Definition: Over three hours of testimony: supporters (including Jewish organizations, ADL, Holocaust survivors) argued the definition is a necessary educational tool to combat rising anti-Semitism; opponents (including ACLU, Jewish Voice for Peace, Palestinian advocates) claimed it conflates criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism and threatens free speech. 271 e-comments in favor, 169 opposed.

Discussion Items

  • Proclamations (Items 30–32, S501, S502): Councilmembers spoke in support of Transgender Day of Visibility, Ramadan Month, National Nutrition Month, Captain Jerry Hara Day, and Shane Hog Day. Approved unanimously (8-0; Moreno absent).
  • Housing Authority Update: CEO Lisa Jones reported on a 14% workforce reduction (33 layoffs, 25 vacant positions eliminated) due to federal funding cuts and rising costs. No motion required; council members expressed concern and encouraged continued dialogue with staff.
  • Barrio Logan Community Plan Amendment (Item 331): Staff presented technical corrections to land use maps and rezones to align with the 2021 plan, protecting Chicano Park and Boston Avenue Linear Park. Approved 8-0 (Campbell absent).
  • IHRA Definition Resolution (Item S500): After hours of public comment, Councilmember Whitburn moved adoption. Councilmembers debated: supporters (Campillo, Campbell, Von Wilpert, Lee, LaCava) emphasized the rise in anti-Semitic incidents and the non-binding, educational nature of the definition; opponents (Ela Rivera) argued it has been weaponized to silence legitimate criticism of Israel and lacks inclusive process. An amendment by Councilmember Lee to request the Human Relations Commission address other forms of hate was incorporated.

Key Outcomes

  • Proclamations: Adopted unanimously (8-0).
  • Consent Calendar: Adopted with Item 50 passing 7-1 (Foster dissenting); all other items passed 8-0.
  • Housing Authority Update: Received as information; no vote.
  • Barrio Logan Amendment: Approved 8-0 (Campbell absent).
  • IHRA Definition Resolution: Approved 8-1 (Ela Rivera dissenting). The resolution adopts the IHRA working definition, condemns anti-Semitism, and requests the Human Relations Commission to address and define other forms of hatred (e.g., Islamophobia, anti-LGBTQ hate, anti-Asian hate).

Meeting Transcript

And I will now call the city council meeting of Tuesday, March 17th, 2026 to order. Clerk, please call the role. Thank you, Council President. Councilmember Campbell. Councilmember Whitburn. Here. Councilmember Foster. Councilmember Von Wilper. Council President Pro Tem Lee. Here. Councilmember Campio. Here. Councilmember Moreno. Councilmember Elo Rivera. And Council President Lacava. Present. Also attending the meeting or Chief Deputy City Attorney Tina Ray, Deputy Director in the IBA's office, Jillian Andalina, and myself, your city clerk, Deanna Fuentes. Thank you, Council President. All right, thank you, City Clerk. A quorum is now present. We will begin this morning with the land acknowledgement and the pledge of allegiance led by Councilmember Whitburn. We respectfully acknowledge that the Cobia Day should are the original inhabitants of the unceded land, thou notice Saint Diego. Despite enduring the horrors of genocide and colonization, the Cubia spirit remains unbroken. We honor the resilience of their ancestors who fought to protect their culture and land. Today they carry their legacy forward, ensuring that their traditions continue to thrive at gratitude and strength. We stand with the Kobe Idation, connected to our past and committed to a thriving future. Please face the flag. Ready? Begin. I fly to the flag of the United States of America. And to your public for which it stands. Thank you, Council President. I'd like to highlight the slide on the screen that reviews how the public can offer their public testimony during today's meeting. Please note the time allocations for proclamations and consent items for meeting management purposes. The order can be found on the agenda summary found online or at the table in the back of the room. If you're in person, please complete a speaker slip located at the entrance of chambers and bring it to the front of the room in the clear box. Council ambassadors are available near the entrance and can assist with questions and speaker slips. No further in-person testimony will be taken once the council begins virtual testimony. Thank you, Council President. All right, thank you. We will now dispense with the approval of the proclamation items. Please introduce them, clerk, and proceed with public comment. Thank you. The public comment period for the proclamation items is now open. Each speaker will have one minute per item per person. If you would like to speak on three or more items, you will have a maximum of three minutes. So now is the time to please submit your speaker slip to the clear box. I do see one in the clear box now. As well as if you are attending virtually, please be sure to raise your hand by pressing star nine or the raise your hand icon. The proclamation items being approved are items 30 through 32, S501, and S502.

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