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Economic Development and Intergovernmental Relations Committee Meeting - October 25, 2018

Economic Development & Intergovernmental Relations CommitteeThursday, October 25, 2018
BodySan Diego, California
SessionEconomic Development & Intergovernmental Relations Committee
DateThursday, October 25, 2018
StatusFILED
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0:00

It doesn't matter to the fine away.

0:04

It's never easy to walk away, little girl.

0:10

It'll be okay.

0:12

It's gonna hurt for a bit of time.

0:16

Super's all.

0:17

Let's forget tonight.

0:19

You find another and you'll be just fine, little girl.

0:25

It'll be alright.

0:29

It'll be alright.

0:33

It'll be alright.

0:37

It'll be all right.

0:40

It'll be alright.

0:45

What if I'm up that main awesome?

1:05

Alright, I'm good enough, I'm gonna I wanna fall back on.

1:10

Alright, I'm sticking on taking on me, take it on me.

1:15

All right, I ever ask the ask you gonna you're gonna be my love tonight.

1:20

I take you with you with me, take it with me.

1:23

What if I left any mean Austin?

1:26

So you turn your friends and they all your hands, maybe never mind never mind if I left any mean Austin, so you turn your friends and they all your hands, maybe never mind us, and you want to force her birthday, send it on, send me all your mind, for one, for mine, alright, I'm pinning up, and I ain't gonna I gonna stop right now I take it on to you on me, take it on me, I never asked you wanna you wanna see my face tonight, take you in, take you with me, take it with me.

2:21

What if I love that he need hosts and you tell your hands and they won't your bits, baby, never mind, never mind, what if I love that he need hosts and you turn your hands and they want your beds, baby?

2:36

Never mind, never mind, my birthday, okay, for my time, if I burnt any, okay, for my time, if I burnt any, oh, you're for eye, for one, for one, one, if I burn it once, I need one, it's all it for time All it'll take is just one moment and you can say goodbye to how we had a plan fear like a habit, run like a rabbit out of the way through the screen door to the wanna love you and more I wanna find you and more Where do you reside when you're high?

4:27

How can I find you?

4:29

Cause I wanna send you in more I wanna tempt you anymore.

4:38

Can you tell that I am alive?

4:43

Let me prove it You and I we're the same, live and die with the same.

5:00

Left like a pharaoh, sing like a sparrow.

5:08

Even if there is no land or love inside with bloom like roses, leave like Moses, I know through the bit of cry to the day, that I wanna love you and more.

5:36

I wanna find you and more Can you tell that I am alive?

5:45

Let me prove it to you.

5:49

You and I were the same, live and die with the same.

5:54

You rejoice, I complain, but you and I were the same.

5:58

Live and die with the same.

6:00

You and I were the same.

6:04

You and I were the same I wanna love you and more.

6:46

I wanna find you and more Where do you reside when you're high?

6:55

How can I find you?

6:58

Cause I wanna send you more.

7:02

I wanna tempt you and more.

7:06

Can you tell that I'm a lie proven?

7:15

You and I were the same, live and die with the same.

7:19

You and Joyce I complain, but you and I were the same.

7:24

Live and die with the same, you and I were the same.

7:28

My voice, know my name, you and I you and I were friends, we were friends, talk for hours without it about his latest story, how to deal with fame and glory, all the girls who were daughter, catered to his every whim.

8:28

Nothing he could lose, all he need to do was chew.

8:34

I should have known, I should have known, I should have thrown myself across his tracks, stopped him from these vital tanks.

8:43

I should have known we believed and didn't see through the lies he told us all that live him to his endless fault.

8:53

I should have known, I should have known I should have known, I should have known And what of the others in some way all my brothers sitting on the very top could not hear the call to stop Behind locked doors the eyes of men who take what don't belong to them from those who seek the brightest staring or threatened with you will be sorry I should have known, I should have known, I should have thrown myself across his tracks, stopped him from these vile types.

9:48

I should have known we believed and didn't see through the lies he told us of his send us fall.

10:00

I should have known, I should have known I should have known, I should have known, I should have thrown myself across his tracks, stopped him from these violet types.

10:46

Oh his endless fall, I should have known, I should have known I should have known, I should have known, oh I should have known, I should have known, oh I should have known, I should have known digging for gold in my neighborhood, but all the old buildings stir they keep digging it down and down so that the cars can live underground swinging all the wrecking balls, gold through these life and plaster walls, ghosts letting all the shadows free the ones that wish to follow me, follow me, follow me Follow me, follow me.

12:29

I remember a winter night kiss beneath the street lamp light outside a barn in the record store, better than Carlos free and more now that our hearts have taken flight I've been a place with construction sight Oh how I feel like a stranger here something that's disappeared Digging for gold in my neighborhood they say as the creator could all I see is a long advice by the requirement for a skyline seems I never stopped losing you every guy becomes something new what an all coast gets swept away from us to be this way be this way be this way please be this way be this way be this way be this way be this way be this way I've described these monuments of false sense of permanence I've placed faith in geography to hold you in my memory seat and through these wreckage piles through the rubble of bricks and wild ghost Looking for something I'll never find Looking for something I'll never find for calling my neighborhood all the old buildings stirred, they keep digging it down, Russell let the cars live underground seems I never stopped losing you every guy becomes something new, all our coasts get swept away, it didn't use to be this way to be this way to be this way to be this way used to be this way, didn't it?

15:44

When I heard your boy caught me by surprise again.

15:55

And I know you claim that you are eyes on me.

16:09

I guess I'm all you have.

16:13

And I swear you'll see the dawn again.

16:21

Well, I know I had it all on the line.

16:25

But don't just steal with folded hands and become blind.

16:47

Well, I'm still in all of you.

16:54

Discover some new truth.

16:58

Now it's always wraps around you.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Census██████████████████████22%
Public Comment██████████████████18%
Worker Cooperatives█████████████13%
Miscellaneous██████████10%
Economic Development██████████10%
Small Business Assistance██████████10%
Public Engagement███████7%
Affordable Housing███3%
Banner Regulation██2%
Summary of Proceedings

Economic Development and Intergovernmental Relations Committee Meeting - October 25, 2018

The Economic Development and Intergovernmental Relations Committee of the San Diego City Council met on October 25, 2018, to discuss five agenda items including a banner ordinance, Census 2020 preparation, Civic San Diego's investment plan, worker cooperatives, and the small business ecosystem. The meeting was chaired by Councilmember Chris Ward, with Councilmembers Alvarez and Bree present; Vice Chair Kercy was absent.

Consent Calendar

  • The committee unanimously approved the minutes from the September 27, 2018 meeting.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Non-Agenda Public Comment: Jennifer Nelson, Pro Bono Manager at San Diego Volunteer Lawyer Program, described their free legal services for low-income entrepreneurs, focusing on City Heights. Rob Gordon reported on a Strategic Growth Council meeting and a pending $200,000 planning proposal, offering to assist; he also announced a new online forum for regional growth discussions. Joyce Yada urged intergovernmental collaboration and praised the city's handling of a recent housing item.
  • Item 1 – Banner Ordinance: Alexander Brinter, representing the Downtown San Diego Partnership, expressed support for the ordinance.
  • Item 3 – Civic San Diego Plan: Joy Sunyata, a former CCDC participant, praised the plan but emphasized the need for better outreach. Rick Bates (Unite Here Local 30) criticized the lack of meaningful community benefits in Civic-sanctioned projects, citing the developer selection process for the central library site. Armando Nunez, a carpenter, condemned labor practices and low wages on Civic projects.
  • Item 4 – Worker Cooperatives: Rob Gordon supported the concept, shared his experience trying to start a cooperative, and praised the presentation.
  • Item 5 – Small Business Ecosystem: Rob Gordon discussed challenges small businesses face with the SBDC's approach to outreach and suggested improving referral systems.

Discussion Items

Item 1: Ordinance to Authorize Banners in Business Improvement Districts

  • Proposal: To reauthorize the installation of banners in BIDs and PBIDs, correcting an error in the municipal code from 2008. Modifications allow banners to be displayed for up to six months with a six-month extension, installation by licensed contractors with city-approved hardware, and annual permitting. The responsibility and liability for fixtures remain with the BIDs.
  • Deliberation: Committee members asked about liability, community complaint process, and distinction from other banner programs. Councilmember Alvarez clarified that the ordinance applies specifically to BIDs and PBIDs, and existing banner districts are unaffected.
  • Outcome: Motion to adopt the staff recommendation by Alvarez, seconded by Bree. Unanimous approval (3-0, with Vice Chair Kercy absent). The item will be forwarded to full City Council.

Item 2: Census 2020 Preparation – Report from State of California Complete Count Office

  • Overview: State and local officials presented on the importance of a complete census count for federal funding and representation. Challenges include the shift to an online census, underfunding of the Census Bureau, language barriers, and distrust, especially among hard-to-count communities (e.g., immigrants, people of color, renters, homeless). California has allocated $90 million for outreach, with funding to counties and community-based organizations.
  • Key Points: The county of San Diego will be given 90 days to opt in as a fiscal agent for state funds; if not, the city or SANDAG may be asked. Christopher Wilson urged the city to establish its own Complete Count Committee, warning that the county has shown little interest. Councilmembers expressed concerns about the county's past performance and asked about the process for the city to act as fiscal agent.
  • Outcome: Informational only; no action taken. Councilmember Ward suggested sending letters to county supervisors and continuing to monitor.

Item 3: Civic San Diego – 2018-2019 Community Investment Three to Five Year Plan (Update)

  • Overview: Civic San Diego outlined its plan with four components: financial tools (New Markets Tax Credits, a new $30-50M equity fund for missing middle housing, and formation of a CDFI); business attraction and retention (e.g., BID Access to Capital collaborative with embedded interns); community revitalization and job creation (including a supplier diversity initiative and neighborhood tours); and community engagement (lunch-and-learns, strategic grants).
  • Public Concerns: Commenters questioned the effectiveness of community engagement, the lack of robust community benefits agreements, and the prevalence of low-wage, non-local labor on Civic projects.
  • Councilmember Comments: Councilmember Ward expressed interest in improving job quality, local hiring, and community benefits, and requested a list of upcoming New Markets Tax Credit opportunities. Councilmember Bree emphasized the need for small businesses to benefit.
  • Outcome: Informational; no action taken.

Item 4: Worker Cooperative Overview – Report by Democracy at Work Institute

  • Overview: Presenters defined worker cooperatives as value-driven businesses where workers own and govern the enterprise. Benefits include higher wages, wealth building, job tenure, and community investment. Examples included Cooperative Home Care Associates, C-Squared cleaning coop, and Rainbow Grocery. Municipal initiatives in New York City, Madison, San Francisco, and Philadelphia were highlighted.
  • Discussion: Councilmember Bree connected this to employee ownership models in tech and suggested connecting with Connect for All. Councilmember Ward asked about obstacles (lack of models, financing, societal bias) and inquired about state/federal support. He noted the potential for legislative advocacy.
  • Outcome: Informational; no action taken.

Item 5: San Diego Small Business Ecosystem – Report by SBDC

  • Overview: Danny Fitzgerald presented results of a survey of 522 small businesses. Top challenges: getting customers (41%), accessing capital (34%), and lack of awareness of available resources (only 15% had used SBDC services, 32% were unaware). The majority of respondents had under 20 employees and were optimistic about growth. The SBDC network reported $270 million economic impact and almost $40 million in capital accessed in 2018.
  • Discussion: Councilmember Bree offered to promote services via her newsletter and Nextdoor, and asked about how to connect minority-owned businesses with city contracts. Councilmember Ward noted the need for better communication and mentioned upcoming outreach for new SBDC satellite offices.
  • Outcome: Informational; no action taken.

Key Outcomes

  • Item 1 (Banner Ordinance): Approved unanimously and referred to full City Council.
  • Items 2-5: Informational; no formal actions. Committee members requested follow-up on census coordination, Civic San Diego's community benefits and job quality, and small business resource dissemination.

Meeting Transcript

It doesn't matter to the fine away. It's never easy to walk away, little girl. It'll be okay. It's gonna hurt for a bit of time. Super's all. Let's forget tonight. You find another and you'll be just fine, little girl. It'll be alright. It'll be alright. It'll be alright. It'll be all right. It'll be alright. What if I'm up that main awesome? Alright, I'm good enough, I'm gonna I wanna fall back on. Alright, I'm sticking on taking on me, take it on me. All right, I ever ask the ask you gonna you're gonna be my love tonight. I take you with you with me, take it with me. What if I left any mean Austin? So you turn your friends and they all your hands, maybe never mind never mind if I left any mean Austin, so you turn your friends and they all your hands, maybe never mind us, and you want to force her birthday, send it on, send me all your mind, for one, for mine, alright, I'm pinning up, and I ain't gonna I gonna stop right now I take it on to you on me, take it on me, I never asked you wanna you wanna see my face tonight, take you in, take you with me, take it with me. What if I love that he need hosts and you tell your hands and they won't your bits, baby, never mind, never mind, what if I love that he need hosts and you turn your hands and they want your beds, baby? Never mind, never mind, my birthday, okay, for my time, if I burnt any, okay, for my time, if I burnt any, oh, you're for eye, for one, for one, one, if I burn it once, I need one, it's all it for time All it'll take is just one moment and you can say goodbye to how we had a plan fear like a habit, run like a rabbit out of the way through the screen door to the wanna love you and more I wanna find you and more Where do you reside when you're high? How can I find you? Cause I wanna send you in more I wanna tempt you anymore. Can you tell that I am alive? Let me prove it You and I we're the same, live and die with the same. Left like a pharaoh, sing like a sparrow. Even if there is no land or love inside with bloom like roses, leave like Moses, I know through the bit of cry to the day, that I wanna love you and more. I wanna find you and more Can you tell that I am alive? Let me prove it to you. You and I were the same, live and die with the same. You rejoice, I complain, but you and I were the same. Live and die with the same. You and I were the same. You and I were the same I wanna love you and more. I wanna find you and more Where do you reside when you're high? How can I find you? Cause I wanna send you more. I wanna tempt you and more. Can you tell that I'm a lie proven? You and I were the same, live and die with the same. You and Joyce I complain, but you and I were the same. Live and die with the same, you and I were the same. My voice, know my name, you and I you and I were friends, we were friends, talk for hours without it about his latest story, how to deal with fame and glory, all the girls who were daughter, catered to his every whim. Nothing he could lose, all he need to do was chew. I should have known, I should have known, I should have thrown myself across his tracks, stopped him from these vital tanks. I should have known we believed and didn't see through the lies he told us all that live him to his endless fault. I should have known, I should have known I should have known, I should have known And what of the others in some way all my brothers sitting on the very top could not hear the call to stop Behind locked doors the eyes of men who take what don't belong to them from those who seek the brightest staring or threatened with you will be sorry I should have known, I should have known, I should have thrown myself across his tracks, stopped him from these vile types. I should have known we believed and didn't see through the lies he told us of his send us fall. I should have known, I should have known I should have known, I should have known, I should have thrown myself across his tracks, stopped him from these violet types. Oh his endless fall, I should have known, I should have known I should have known, I should have known, oh I should have known, I should have known, oh I should have known, I should have known digging for gold in my neighborhood, but all the old buildings stir they keep digging it down and down so that the cars can live underground swinging all the wrecking balls, gold through these life and plaster walls, ghosts letting all the shadows free the ones that wish to follow me, follow me, follow me Follow me, follow me.

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