Good afternoon.

Welcome to the Land Use and Housing Committee meeting of June fifth, twenty twenty-five.

Our committee liaison, Natalie Kessler will go over instructions for today's meeting.

Thank you, Chair.

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Councilmember Kimpio.

And Chair Council President Pro Tem Lee.

Also attending the meeting today, Chris Ackerman of Villa with the Mayor's Office, Deputy City Attorney Corinne Newfer with the City Attorney's Office, Amy Lee with the independent budget analyst office, and Angeli Hoyos, committee consultant.

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Chair.

Thank you, Natalie, for reviewing those instructions for the benefit of the public.

A quorum is now present.

Uh for the public's awareness, we'll be taking up the consent agenda, and then afterwards we'll be hearing um items in the order of item eight and then item seven.

Uh so let's go ahead and start with non-agenda public comment.

Uh the council members respect and appreciate the public's input and are fully committed to protecting every participant's free speech rights at council and committee meetings.

Um, Natalie, will we please proceed with any non-agenda public comment?

Thank you, Chair Per Rule 2.7, non-agenda public comment is an opportunity for members of the public to comment on items that are not on the agenda, but within the subject matter jurisdiction of the committee, each speaker will have two minutes.

And Chair, we have received two speakers lists from two individuals in the committee room for a non-agenda public comment.

We are going to begin with Al Dema Aldamaestro.

If you can please approach the lectern, you'll be followed by Joyce Signata.

I don't see the timer.

Uh hi, my name is Al Del Mastro.

And I'm a small moment in the community.

I own a couple small duplexes in the Claremont area.

I'd like to see if we could have um uh in the Bill AB 1033 that existing and existing duplexes could be included in that where they could be single family homes to people.

What's stopping that from happening right now is that you have um the area from the back of the sidewalk to the front of the garage is 20 feet, but by law in San Diego, it needs to be 35 feet for the conversion.

I know with the ADUs, they don't even need a parking spot.

There's about 2,000 uh um duplexes in Claremont.

That could open up a lot of homes for a lot of people.

And the people that rent for me are just beautiful people.

The the real game changer for me would be if if I could be incentivized by what would happen is um they'd let me uh carry paper for these people.

I could put them in there right away.

They don't have to worry about a high interest loan.

I can make it a point lower.

I could put them in there, give them a 10-year loan, uh interest only for 10 years, and they would be able to live there at the rent level that they're paying now, not counting insurances and taxes.

But I could do that for them because I'd rather sell it to them to than a developer, to be honest with you guys.

I'd rather have the home ownership than renting.

And uh if we could work together somehow and help these people, I only ask for myself.

This is what my thing would be is I'd like to have an incentive.

Maybe I don't pay state tax on that money.

Right now, if I sell anything, I'm gonna pay 50%.

Or I can trade it and take it out of state.

But right now, if I if you let me do that with these tenants, they're really good kids.

A lot of them are still small families.

If you can work with me on that, I'd love that.

If uh I don't know how if you'd want to, thank you.

Thank you.

Joyce and Yatta, please approach the electron, and you'll be followed by Blair Beekman.

Thank you so much.

Um, Natalie, Joyce and Yata District 3.