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Public Safety and Livable Neighborhoods Committee Meeting - March 13, 2019

Public Safety & Livable Neighborhoods CommitteeWednesday, March 13, 2019
BodySan Diego, California
SessionPublic Safety & Livable Neighborhoods Committee
DateWednesday, March 13, 2019
StatusFILED
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1:47

Okay, that is moved.

1:49

We have a motion by council member Kate, a second by Vice Chair Bree.

1:54

All in favor?

1:56

That passes unanimously.

1:59

Now we're gonna go ahead and move on to non-agenda public comment.

2:04

Um this portion of the agenda provides an opportunity for members of the public to address this committee on um items of interest within the jurisdiction of the committee.

2:15

Um and also just please note that the comments related to um any item on today's docket will be taken at the time the item is heard.

2:24

And so let's go ahead and start with non-agenda public comment.

2:28

We have uh a few uh requests to speak and more coming in, so um, we will give a minute and a half for everyone who would like to speak, please uh tell your comments accordingly.

2:37

Um we'll start off with uh Mr.

2:40

Jerry Hall.

2:46

Good morning.

2:47

If we could uh hand out a handout, that would be great.

2:55

My name is Jerry Hall, I'm a third-year resident of San Diego coming out of Michigan.

2:59

Um I'm addressing you to um is the public safety committee and also uh your focus on parks to remove two Confederate monuments that are within the city of San Diego within public property.

3:13

Uh one is located downtown in Horton Plaza Park.

3:16

Uh that monument celebrates uh what was supposed to be a freeway that that was uh going to be named the Jefferson Davis um freeway and um it ended up never getting uh built, but we ended up maintaining a a marker celebrating uh the the former president of the union or of the Confederate army.

3:41

Um the monument there also um has a a badge honoring um Robert E.

3:49

Lee and um uh which Reverend E.

3:52

Lee had nothing to do with the the freeway itself, but um here we are having a monument celebrating him.

3:59

You have thirty more seconds, I'm sorry.

4:00

So we're trying to work out the time while you go.

4:02

Yeah, I'm sorry.

4:03

Um I generally don't rate notes because it's uh end up rambling.

4:07

But my my point here is that we have two Confederate monuments that need to be removed.

4:11

One is in Mount Hope Cemetery, the other one is downtown Horton Plaza.

4:15

Um I believe it's in this committee's preview to to address that uh because of your um oversight over the parks.

4:22

I I gave you all the information you need here, and I have plenty more documents from 1926 all the way to today on why these monuments are here.

4:31

Thank you.

4:31

Thank you very much.

4:53

Yeah.

4:53

And um I'm a resident of Alpha Square.

5:00

Um I'm not uh considered uh homeless, but uh near homeless.

5:04

And I believe there's more of us than there are of the homeless.

5:10

And uh in my opinion, Alpha Square is the answer to the homeless problem.

5:15

If we had 10 or 20 of them, I think we would make a real dent in uh the homeless situation.

5:23

Um I have an idea of uh solving the homeless problem, and uh I know there's probably a thousand others, but um it would have to be a legal-based idea, and uh to make it legal.

5:41

I would suggest you uh add a tenth council district member who would be solely uh uh interested in solving the homeless problem, and uh included in that would be a um a satellite city for the homeless, where they could go and get all the services they need.

6:04

And it would be outside the city limits of San Diego, similar to uh Rancho Bernardo, except it being for the wealthy it'd be for the poor.

6:16

And that's basically my idea.

6:18

I had one other comment.

6:21

Um sidewalks are for walking.

6:25

And there is not sidewalks are not for uh bathrooms, kitchens, and so forth.

6:31

Amen.

6:32

Thank you, sir.

6:35

Jim Varnador Morning, Madam Chairwoman, ladies and gentlemen.

6:41

I'm Jim Varnador.

6:42

I live in City Heights.

6:44

In an earlier email, after this board was named, but before it held its first meeting, I reported to you that the local media, print and electronic, had made some insinuations about the body and some of its memberships, suggesting that they or part of them might have some uh effort to do damage to the San Diego Police Department, and I expressed the hope that I was wrong in that observation.

7:10

I did suggest two things to you before you take any policy or procedure or actions, other actions in respect to the police department.

7:19

I suggested you find out why the mid-city division of the San Diego Police Department enjoys such excellent community relations, and I suggested to you find out why so many police officers, members of the force, sworn officers are so eager to be assigned to the mid-city division.

7:38

On Monday, I sent you an email, a forward from uh one of the police officers in that division, exemplifying why the division uh is in such condition as it is, and I urge you again before you take any action that has to do with policy procedures, personnel, etc.

7:56

of the San Diego Police Department, that you find those two things out.

7:59

I suggested earlier.

8:00

Thank you, Madam Chairwoman.

8:02

Thank you so much.

8:03

Becky Johnson.

8:15

Good morning, my name is Becky Johnson.

8:17

I have been dismayed by the recent articles about creating business equity for those neighborhoods where there is already a great struggle to protect their children from the problem of drug use.

8:26

Marijuana use is drug use because of the high concentration of pot and marijuana products.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Parks and Recreation██████████████████████████26%
Police Oversight██████████████████████22%
Public Safety█████████████████17%
Homelessness██████6%
Cannabis Regulation██████6%
Gun Violence██████6%
Environmental Protection███3%
Equity in Transportation███3%
Public Comment██2%
Summary of Proceedings

Public Safety and Livable Neighborhoods Committee Meeting - March 13, 2019

The Public Safety and Livable Neighborhoods (PSNLN) Committee of the San Diego City Council, chaired by Councilmember Monica Montgomery, met on March 13, 2019, to hear public comment, receive an overview of the City Attorney’s Criminal and Community Justice Division, and discuss two items related to recreation center funding and governance. The meeting featured extensive public testimony on police accountability, the chokehold ban, and the death of Aaliyah Jenkins, as well as deliberation on equity in recreation programming.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Jerry Hall (San Diego resident) urged the committee to remove two Confederate monuments from public parks (Horton Plaza Park and Mount Hope Cemetery), providing historical documentation.
  • Unnamed speaker (Alpha Square resident) proposed creating a 10th council district focused on homelessness and a satellite city outside San Diego for shelter and services.
  • Jim Varnador (City Heights resident) asked the committee to research why the Mid-City police division has strong community relations before making policy changes regarding the police department.
  • Becky Johnson expressed opposition to marijuana outlets and consumption lounges, citing public safety risks and urging the committee to attend planning group meetings where such businesses are debated.
  • Kate Yavendetti (Women Occupy San Diego, National Lawyers Guild) supported Chair Montgomery’s priority to place a charter amendment on the November 2020 ballot to convert the Community Review Board into an independent commission.
  • Anita Turner called for a ban on the chokehold (carotid restraint) by police, noting that six seconds can cause permanent damage or death.
  • Desiree Smith shared that her 15-year-old son was choked by police at school; she urged a ban on the technique.
  • Yamish alleged discrepancies between hospital toxicology reports and the coroner’s report in a death case, arguing police misconduct.
  • Alara Chilton (San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association) requested a complete ban on the carotid restraint, citing disproportionate use on people of color and the impossibility of applying it safely.
  • Youssef Miller (Racial Justice Coalition) supported the “I Can’t Breathe” campaign and called for a ban on the chokehold, referencing deaths of Robert Branch, Eric Smith, and Aaliyah Jenkins.
  • Aletha criticized two male committee members for inattentiveness, and questioned who oversees the police, naming Chris Michelle as a stealth figure.
  • Tasha Williamson (Racial Justice Coalition) presented demands regarding Aaliyah Jenkins’ death: release unedited body camera footage, fire Officer Lawrence Durbin, create clear policies for medical assistance, and support Assemblymember Shirley Weber’s Aaliyah Jenkins Law. She warned of escalating protests.
  • Darwin Fishman (Act of San Diego, Racial Justice Coalition) urged the committee to take bold action on chokehold bans and police oversight, noting that the police chief rejected previous reform proposals.
  • Britney M. called for accountability of officers who are disrespectful and unprofessional, citing the Aaliyah Jenkins case.
  • Kelly McCormick advocated for warning signs at marijuana outlets, citing health risks for pregnant women, children, and drivers, and pointing to data from states like Washington.
  • Kayla Jenkins (Aaliyah’s mother) disputed the medical examiner’s report, stating her daughter’s cause of death was not fentanyl overdose but lack of oxygen due to police negligence. She demanded release of the video and justice.
  • Vicky White (San Diego citizen) emphasized racial bias in policing and called for justice for Aaliyah Jenkins.

During the City Attorney’s presentation, about 20 minutes in, the public gallery began chanting “Say her name – Aaliyah Jenkins” and demanding answers. Chair Montgomery called a recess and met with the community for about 10 minutes. After resuming, the presentation continued. Several additional speakers, including Tasha Williamson and others, reiterated demands for the video release, officer firing, and an ordinance criminalizing denial of medical assistance by police.

Discussion Items

City Attorney’s Criminal and Community Justice Division Overview (Information Item)

  • John Hemling (Assistant City Attorney) and Nicole Crosby (Chief Deputy City Attorney) presented the division’s vision, caseload statistics, and strategic priorities for 2019.
  • The division handles approximately 20,000 case submissions per year, prosecuting over 15,000. Key priorities include: preventing predictable gun violence (via Gun Violence Restraining Orders), the Community Justice Initiative (diversion for low-level offenders), the SMART program (transitional housing for chronic offenders with drug addiction), the PLEADS pilot program (immediate diversion to services), victim services coordination, combatting elder abuse in independent living facilities, human sex trafficking enforcement, and environmental/marine protection.
  • Public comment: Mr. McConnell criticized the SMART program’s small scale (20 beds) and lack of transparency, questioning the city’s overall approach to homelessness and criminal justice.
  • Committee members asked for data on illegal dumping prosecutions, health and safety receiverships, and expansion of the SMART program. Councilmember Moreno noted the Palm Avenue motel failure and requested locations other than the non-viable coastal property. Chair Montgomery asked about the effects of guilty pleas in the Community Justice Initiative.

Approval of Fiscal Year 2020 Recreation Center Fund Budgets

  • Herman Parker (Director of Parks and Recreation), Shelley Stoll, and Sarah Orazzo presented the budget request. The funds ($3.9M in 2018, projected $4.3-4.4M in FY20) are generated from class registrations and permit surcharges, collected at each recreation center.
  • Councilmember Moreno highlighted stark inequity: Carmel Valley Recreation Center’s FY20 programming budget is $355,000, while the Robert Eger Center in District 8 has only $26,000. She requested a plan to improve equity.
  • Vice Chair Bree provided context on the history of recreation councils, the transition to city control after embezzlement cases, and the formation of the Parks Foundation focused on equity.
  • Councilmember Kate raised concerns about Prop 13 implications if funds are transferred between centers, and cautioned against pitting neighborhoods against each other. He suggested using the city budget to fund programs in underserved areas.
  • Motion (Councilmember Moreno): Approve staff’s recommendation and have the department return to the committee within 90 days with a plan to improve funding equity. The motion was seconded by Vice Chair Bree and passed unanimously.

Amendment of Council Policy 700-42 (Recreation Advisory Groups)

  • Staff presented the revised policy, developed by a working group from December 2017 to January 2019, replacing recreation councils with recreation advisory groups. Key provisions: groups must comply with the Brown Act, have minimum five members, adhere to bylaws, and provide input on budgets. Companion administrative guidelines were also presented.
  • Councilmember Moreno proposed an amendment to add language under Article 3, Section 2: “The department will establish a plan to improve funding equity across all recreation center funds, and will prepare an annual progress report on recreation programming funding equity to be presented to the city council committee on public safety and livable neighborhoods.”
  • The motion was seconded. The transcript ends before a vote is recorded; the committee appeared supportive but the final outcome is not captured in the record.

Key Outcomes

  • Motion to approve FY2020 recreation center fund budgets passed unanimously, with a directive for the Parks and Recreation Department to return to PSNLN within 90 days with a plan for improving funding equity.
  • Motion to amend Council Policy 700-42 with transparency and equity language was made and seconded; the official vote is not recorded in the transcript.
  • The committee received the City Attorney’s presentation on the Criminal and Community Justice Division’s strategic priorities; no formal action was taken.
  • Extensive public testimony highlighted community demands for police accountability, a ban on the carotid restraint, release of the Aaliyah Jenkins video, and an ordinance to criminalize denial of medical assistance by police.

Meeting Transcript

Okay, that is moved. We have a motion by council member Kate, a second by Vice Chair Bree. All in favor? That passes unanimously. Now we're gonna go ahead and move on to non-agenda public comment. Um this portion of the agenda provides an opportunity for members of the public to address this committee on um items of interest within the jurisdiction of the committee. Um and also just please note that the comments related to um any item on today's docket will be taken at the time the item is heard. And so let's go ahead and start with non-agenda public comment. We have uh a few uh requests to speak and more coming in, so um, we will give a minute and a half for everyone who would like to speak, please uh tell your comments accordingly. Um we'll start off with uh Mr. Jerry Hall. Good morning. If we could uh hand out a handout, that would be great. My name is Jerry Hall, I'm a third-year resident of San Diego coming out of Michigan. Um I'm addressing you to um is the public safety committee and also uh your focus on parks to remove two Confederate monuments that are within the city of San Diego within public property. Uh one is located downtown in Horton Plaza Park. Uh that monument celebrates uh what was supposed to be a freeway that that was uh going to be named the Jefferson Davis um freeway and um it ended up never getting uh built, but we ended up maintaining a a marker celebrating uh the the former president of the union or of the Confederate army. Um the monument there also um has a a badge honoring um Robert E. Lee and um uh which Reverend E. Lee had nothing to do with the the freeway itself, but um here we are having a monument celebrating him. You have thirty more seconds, I'm sorry. So we're trying to work out the time while you go. Yeah, I'm sorry. Um I generally don't rate notes because it's uh end up rambling. But my my point here is that we have two Confederate monuments that need to be removed. One is in Mount Hope Cemetery, the other one is downtown Horton Plaza. Um I believe it's in this committee's preview to to address that uh because of your um oversight over the parks. I I gave you all the information you need here, and I have plenty more documents from 1926 all the way to today on why these monuments are here. Thank you. Thank you very much. Yeah. And um I'm a resident of Alpha Square. Um I'm not uh considered uh homeless, but uh near homeless. And I believe there's more of us than there are of the homeless. And uh in my opinion, Alpha Square is the answer to the homeless problem. If we had 10 or 20 of them, I think we would make a real dent in uh the homeless situation. Um I have an idea of uh solving the homeless problem, and uh I know there's probably a thousand others, but um it would have to be a legal-based idea, and uh to make it legal. I would suggest you uh add a tenth council district member who would be solely uh uh interested in solving the homeless problem, and uh included in that would be a um a satellite city for the homeless, where they could go and get all the services they need. And it would be outside the city limits of San Diego, similar to uh Rancho Bernardo, except it being for the wealthy it'd be for the poor. And that's basically my idea. I had one other comment. Um sidewalks are for walking. And there is not sidewalks are not for uh bathrooms, kitchens, and so forth. Amen. Thank you, sir. Jim Varnador Morning, Madam Chairwoman, ladies and gentlemen. I'm Jim Varnador. I live in City Heights. In an earlier email, after this board was named, but before it held its first meeting, I reported to you that the local media, print and electronic, had made some insinuations about the body and some of its memberships, suggesting that they or part of them might have some uh effort to do damage to the San Diego Police Department, and I expressed the hope that I was wrong in that observation. I did suggest two things to you before you take any policy or procedure or actions, other actions in respect to the police department.

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