San Diego City Council Rules Committee Meeting - October 4, 2023
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San Diego City Council Rules Committee Meeting - October 4, 2023
The San Diego City Council Rules Committee met on October 4, 2023, at 9:00 AM (17:00:00+00:00) under the chairmanship of Council President Sean Elo-Rivera. The committee considered a motion to continue a citizen-proposed ballot measure related to the city attorney's office, heard public testimony on both the continuance and non-agenda items, and approved past committee actions from September 6, 2023.
Public Comments & Testimony
- Public Comment on Past Committee Actions (September 6, 2023): Three speakers addressed the committee. One speaker (Lori Saldaña) expressed concern about the diversity of retired judges in California, urging the committee to ensure an expanded and diverse pool when selecting judges. Another speaker (Dan Schmikowski) argued that judges should be trustworthy and impartial. A third speaker (John Stump) criticized the past committee actions for lacking inclusion of documents he submitted, and requested that written materials be referenced in the actions.
- Public Comment on the Motion to Continue Item 1: Multiple speakers opposed the continuance. Michael O'Geary, Paul Kruger, John Stump, Lori Saldaña, Blair Beekman, Dan Schmikowski, and an unidentified speaker ("the original") argued that the committee was prepared to discuss the item, that the city attorney's memo should be heard, and that the continuance would delay public debate. Some speakers expressed support for City Attorney Mara Elliott and criticized the council president's characterization of her memo as political. The speakers also urged the committee to use the initial hearing to give clear direction for further information.
- Non-Agenda Public Comment: Speakers addressed various topics. Terry Ann Skelly, a community volunteer, opposed the proposed cannabis social equity program, arguing it would harm youth health. Lori Saldaña criticized the Midway Rising development for failing to deliver promised middle-income housing, alleging a "bait and switch" and noting conflicts of interest involving lobbyist Gil Cabrera. Blair Beekman raised concerns about scooter geofencing technology potentially contributing to a fatal hit-and-run at Fifth Avenue and Ash Street, and called for an investigation. John Stump criticized the city's failure to fund infrastructure and urged referral of ethics issues to the grand jury. Dan Schmikowski advocated for ranked-choice voting and independent candidates. An unidentified speaker ("the original") accused the council president of personal animosity toward the city attorney and of delaying the item for political reasons. Joyce Yada expressed general support for the committee's work and noted that all participants are doing their best.
Discussion Items
- Continuance of Item 1 (Citizen Ballot Measure Proposal): Council President Elo-Rivera moved to continue the item, stating that the city attorney's memo contained many unrelated policy proposals that needed to be untangled, and that he needed more time to consider how to handle the city attorney's expressed political opposition (as he characterized it). He noted that the citizen proponents should be available for future hearings. The city attorney, Mara Elliott, objected, stating that her memo was neutral and that her office had not taken a position; she characterized the council president's remarks as inaccurate and misleading. She also indicated she was unavailable in November. Councilmember Moreno opposed the continuance, stating she was prepared to discuss the item. Councilmember LaCava supported the continuance, noting the need for further workshopping and clarification of how the proposal would interact with the strong-mayor form of government.
Key Outcomes
- Approval of Past Committee Actions: The committee unanimously approved the actions from the September 6, 2023, meeting.
- Motion to Continue Item 1: The motion passed 4-1, with Councilmember Moreno voting no. Item 1 was continued to a future meeting, with the understanding that the citizen proponents' availability would be coordinated. The next meeting of the Rules Committee is scheduled for November 1, 2023, at 9:00 AM.
Meeting Transcript
All right. Uh good morning, everyone. Uh welcome to the rules committee meeting of October 4th, 2023. Our committee manager Ty Birch will go over information and instruction for today's meeting. Thank you very much, Council President. While members of the public are able to attend the meeting in person, this meeting is being televised and live streamed on the C's website, and council administration will continue to make arrangements for the public to comment using the Zoom webinar platform. Additionally, members of the public who wish to provide virtual testimony via a call-in or internet-based service option must enter the virtual speaking queue within five minutes after the conclusion of in-person public testimony or before the virtual speaking queue is exhausted, whichever occurs first. This will allow for bare medium management between the two platforms and ensure that the committee is able to manage and conduct C business. We appreciate the public's cooperation. Council President. Vice Chair, Council President Pro Tem Montgomery Step. Here. Committee member Lakaba. Present. Committee member Lee. Here. Committee member Moreno. Present. And our chair, Council President Elo Rivera. Present. Also to attend today's meeting is Gillian Andalina Duepy, Director of the Independent Budget Analysts Office, WC Attorney Kathy Steinman, and Deputy Director of Policy for Mayor Todd Gloria, Matthew Gagan. All right. Thank you. If you are in person, please complete a speaker slip located at the entrance and chambers and place it at the box indicated. In-person testimony will conclude before virtual testimony begins, so members of the public can join the webinar by computer tablet or smartphone by accessing the link, which is located online in the preamble language of the agenda on the city's webpage. You may join the Zoom webinar by phone by dialing one six six nine two five four five two five two and when prompted, input webinar ID 16057-2611 pound. This information is also available on the agenda and will appear on the screen during the public comment period for each agenda item. Members of the public who wish to provide virtual testimony via a call-in or internet-based service option must enter the virtual speaking queue within five minutes after the conclusion of in-person public testimony or before the virtual speaking queue is exhausted, whichever occurs first. If you're watching VSC TV 24 online, there may be a delay, so please participate via the audio on your phone and mute your TV or computer when it is your turn to speak. If you wish to speak on a particular item, please wait for that item to be called and then raise your hand to speak by tapping the raise your hand icon, or if you're a column participant, star nine on your cell phone or landline. If you raise your hand during a non-comment period, your hand will be lowered. Council President. So I will begin the five-minute timer and for other individuals to raise their hands again if they have comments on the past committee actions. And we will begin with Miss Soldania. You may unmute yourself. And I had mentioned during the original hearing on this proposal that the demographics of retired judges in California tend to skew um they're they're less diverse because of historic patterns of judges. And I'm just curious if any steps are going to be made to ensure that when you are taking this action that you're going to be expanding the pool of judges to ensure that you have people from diverse backgrounds. Judges who were appointed by previous administrations or elected may not reflect the diversity of voters that we see now in California. So I just wanted to bring that to the committee's attention and hope that as this proceeds through the process, that's taken into account as as you make your choices. Thank you. Thank you very much for those comments. We have one more speaker that raised their hand indicating that they wish to speak. So Dan Schmikowski again, this is on the past committee actions. I've always maintained that if you cannot trust a judge to comport himself or herself without prejudice. And that's coming from the word in Hebrew Daniel. God will judge. What do we have left within the three branches of government? The judicial branch. Thank you very much for your comments. And our final speaker that we have for the past committee actions, we have the original.
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