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San Diego Rules Committee Meeting – February 21, 2024: Stormwater Ballot Measure Proposal

Rules CommitteeWednesday, February 21, 2024
BodySan Diego, California
SessionRules Committee
DateWednesday, February 21, 2024
StatusFILED
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1:44

All right, good morning, everyone.

1:46

Welcome to the rules committee meeting of February 21st, 2024.

1:50

Our committee manager, Ty Birch will go over information instructions for today's meeting.

1:55

Thank you very much, Council President.

1:56

While members of the public are able to attend this meeting in person, this meeting is being televised and live streamed on the city's website, and Council Administration will continue to make arrangements for the public to comment using the Zoom webinar platform.

2:06

Additionally, members of the public who wish to provide testimony via a call-in or internet-based service option must enter the virtual speaking queue within five minutes after the conclusion of in-person public testimony or before the virtual speaking queue is exhausted, whichever occurs first.

2:19

This will allow for barryman management between the two platforms and ensure that the committee is able to manage and conduct safe business.

2:24

We appreciate the public's cooperation.

2:26

Council President.

2:28

All right.

2:28

Thank you, Ty.

2:30

Let's uh call the special rules committee meeting of February 21st, 2024 to order.

2:35

Ty, if you could please call the rule.

2:38

Vice Chair Council President Pro Temla Cava.

2:40

Committee member Lee here.

2:42

Committee member Campio.

2:43

Committee member Moreno.

2:46

And our chair, Council President Elo Rivera.

2:48

Present.

2:48

Also attending today's meeting is Jillian Andalina, Deputy Director of the Independent Budget Analyst Office, Deputy City Attorney Kathy Steinman, and Director of Policy for Mayor Talk Gloria Maggie Gagan.

2:57

If you are in person, please compete, please complete a speaker slip located at the entrance of chambers and place in the box indicated speaker's left turn at the front of the room.

3:05

Please do so in a timely manner to ensure proper meeting management.

3:28

This information is also available on the agenda and will appear on the screen during the public comment period for each agenda item.

3:34

Members of the public who wish to provide virtual testimony via call-in or internet-based service option must enter the virtual speaking queue within five minutes after the conclusion of in-person public testimony or before the virtual speaking queue is exhausted, whichever occurs first.

3:47

If you are watching via C T V 24 online, there may be a delay.

3:50

So please participate via the audio on your phone and mute your TV or computer when it's your turn to speak.

3:56

If you wish to speak on a particular item, please wait for that item to be called and then raise your hand or speak by tapping the raise your hand icon, or if you're a call participant, star nine on your cell phone or landline.

4:07

If you raise your hand during a non-comment period, your hand will be lowered.

4:10

Council President.

4:17

Ty, do we have public comment on the committee minutes?

4:20

Thank you very much, Council President.

4:21

We do not have any individuals in chambers that have submitted a speaker slip on the past committee minutes, but we do have one individual in the virtual queue that is indicated that they wish to speak.

4:30

Each speaker will have one minute on the past committee minutes.

4:45

Yeah, so with the um previous minutes, um, as we are, you know, being dictated what we can say during this time.

4:54

I will just give a review of what was going on.

4:56

Um it was the committee review of ballot measures proposed by Mara Elliott, or e.

5:00

Um, it was the committee review of ballot measures proposed by Mara Elliott, or e the office of city auditor and audit committee, and adopting a new council policy, establishing a code of civil discourse, office of the city attorney.

5:12

That's so great, right?

5:13

Because civil discourse.

5:15

Is there any of that really happening around us?

5:18

It's really bad these days, and you guys need to have some rules going on.

5:22

And so it's good that you're in a rules committee, right?

5:25

Making the rules, breaking the rules, trying to enforce rules that are totally unconstitutional.

5:31

Uh, you guys are good puppets for the cabal.

5:34

It's so good.

5:34

So we'll see what happens today because this is going to be terrifying.

5:40

Thank you very much for your comments.

5:41

Our next speaker that we have in the virtual queue is Blair Beekman.

5:44

Blair, this is on the past committee actions of January 31st.

5:47

You will have one minute.

5:49

Hi, thank you.

5:50

Uh thanks to the words of DRA leading off today, kind of getting us into the spirit of things.

5:56

Uh I from her words, I was able to gather that uh the minutes were about uh you're working on uh uh you know better practices within council chambers uh public meeting process.

6:10

Uh it's the committee uh committees in January and February.

6:15

Uh good luck on this work.

6:17

I didn't quite know it's considered ethics at first.

6:20

Uh from your ethics, uh internal arguments, good luck how that can develop into uh clear understandings for us as public uh in how to work on these items.

6:32

And uh I think the quorum is important and it should be respected.

6:36

And I hope we can all uh want to work towards that goal.

6:40

And I think uh it's something good can be accomplished, and we don't have to be overly strong about it.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Stormwater Management█████████████████████████████████████████████52%
Public Comment████████████████████████28%
Procedural██████████12%
Public Engagement███3%
Homelessness██2%
Equity in Transportation1%
Budget1%
Fiscal Sustainability1%
Summary of Proceedings

San Diego Rules Committee Meeting – February 21, 2024

The Rules Committee of the San Diego City Council met on February 21, 2024, to consider a proposal by Council President Sean Elo Rivera to place a dedicated stormwater infrastructure and disaster response funding measure on the November 2024 ballot. The committee heard extensive public testimony and unanimously approved the first steps toward developing the measure.

Consent Calendar

  • Approval of Past Committee Minutes (January 31, 2024): The committee voted unanimously (with Councilmember Campillo absent) to approve the minutes from the previous meeting. Two members of the public provided comments on the minutes.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Non-Agenda Public Comment: Several speakers addressed topics not on the agenda, including digital identification, social credit systems, border security, high-THC cannabis products, stormwater policies, and local political issues. Speakers included Consuelo, Blair Beekman, Judy Strang, and others.
  • Item 1 – Stormwater Ballot Measure: The committee heard from 16 in-person and 9 virtual speakers, with most expressing strong support. Key speakers: Karina Contreras (Climate Action Campaign) – full support; Kelly Linden – support with equity focus; Consuelo – opposed, urged public attention; Masada Disenhouse (San Diego 350) – strong support; Eddie Price (Grid Alternatives) – support with conditions (community input, workforce development); Diane Armenta (District 8 resident) – shared personal flooding experience; Leslie Reynolds (Groundwork San Diego) – support; Richard Diaz (Oak Park resident, former County watershed staff) – support; Brian Flagmore – support; Jennifer Eastman (Webster resident) – support; Mark – opposed, criticized UN Agenda 21. Virtual speakers: Blair Beekman, Karina Gonzalez (Hammond Climate Solutions), Elida Chavez (Oak Park resident), Sally Small, Jean-Wee, Joyce from District 3, Asma Adi (Equitable Development Coalition), Kristen Northrop (Surf), and others supported; John Brady (Community Budget Alliance) supported but urged a housing bond as well; The Original – opposed, criticized city negligence.

Discussion Items

  • Item 1: Initial Committee Review of a Ballot Measure Proposal for Dedicated Stormwater Infrastructure and Disaster Response Revenue Brendan Dentino, Policy Director for Council President Elo Rivera, presented the proposal. Key points:

    • The city faces a $1.6 billion stormwater infrastructure deficit, up from $459 million in 2018.
    • January 22, 2024, flooding displaced over 1,000 people and caused widespread damage.
    • The city is subject to daily fines for water quality violations, which have been accruing since April 2021.
    • The proposed measure would be a parcel tax based on impermeable area (rate to be determined), with exemptions for low-income households and property-tax-exempt entities (similar to Los Angeles County’s Measure W).
    • Revenue would fund stormwater projects, maintenance, disaster response, and community engagement; would include accountability measures such as independent audits and community oversight.
    • The requested action is to work with the Independent Budget Analyst (IBA) and Stormwater Department to furnish background information and preliminary fiscal/operational analyses and report back to the committee.
  • Committee Deliberations:

    • Council President Pro Tem La Cava (seconded the motion) emphasized the long-overdue need and recommended building on city staff’s 2022 research.
    • Councilmember Moreno expressed strong support, highlighted the CIP backlog, and suggested making the stormwater department an enterprise fund.
    • Councilmember Lee supported, urging exemptions for low-income residents and seniors, and consideration of equitable fund distribution, education, and workforce training.
    • Councilmember Campillo supported, noting environmental, property, health, and job benefits.

Key Outcomes

  • Motion Passed Unanimously: The committee voted unanimously (with all members present, Councilmember Campillo arrived later but voted yes) to approve the requested action: Council District 9 office to work with the IBA and Stormwater Department to provide background information and preliminary fiscal/operational analysis, and to report back to the committee.
  • Next Steps: The measure will be developed further, with stakeholder engagement and a return to the Rules Committee in spring 2024 for further discussion. If advanced, it could appear on the November 2024 ballot.

Meeting Transcript

All right, good morning, everyone. Welcome to the rules committee meeting of February 21st, 2024. Our committee manager, Ty Birch will go over information instructions for today's meeting. Thank you very much, Council President. While members of the public are able to attend this meeting in person, this meeting is being televised and live streamed on the city's website, and Council Administration will continue to make arrangements for the public to comment using the Zoom webinar platform. Additionally, members of the public who wish to provide testimony via a call-in or internet-based service option must enter the virtual speaking queue within five minutes after the conclusion of in-person public testimony or before the virtual speaking queue is exhausted, whichever occurs first. This will allow for barryman management between the two platforms and ensure that the committee is able to manage and conduct safe business. We appreciate the public's cooperation. Council President. All right. Thank you, Ty. Let's uh call the special rules committee meeting of February 21st, 2024 to order. Ty, if you could please call the rule. Vice Chair Council President Pro Temla Cava. Committee member Lee here. Committee member Campio. Committee member Moreno. And our chair, Council President Elo Rivera. Present. Also attending today's meeting is Jillian Andalina, Deputy Director of the Independent Budget Analyst Office, Deputy City Attorney Kathy Steinman, and Director of Policy for Mayor Talk Gloria Maggie Gagan. If you are in person, please compete, please complete a speaker slip located at the entrance of chambers and place in the box indicated speaker's left turn at the front of the room. Please do so in a timely manner to ensure proper meeting management. This information is also available on the agenda and will appear on the screen during the public comment period for each agenda item. Members of the public who wish to provide virtual testimony via call-in or internet-based service option must enter the virtual speaking queue within five minutes after the conclusion of in-person public testimony or before the virtual speaking queue is exhausted, whichever occurs first. If you are watching via C T V 24 online, there may be a delay. So please participate via the audio on your phone and mute your TV or computer when it's your turn to speak. If you wish to speak on a particular item, please wait for that item to be called and then raise your hand or speak by tapping the raise your hand icon, or if you're a call participant, star nine on your cell phone or landline. If you raise your hand during a non-comment period, your hand will be lowered. Council President. Ty, do we have public comment on the committee minutes? Thank you very much, Council President. We do not have any individuals in chambers that have submitted a speaker slip on the past committee minutes, but we do have one individual in the virtual queue that is indicated that they wish to speak. Each speaker will have one minute on the past committee minutes. Yeah, so with the um previous minutes, um, as we are, you know, being dictated what we can say during this time. I will just give a review of what was going on. Um it was the committee review of ballot measures proposed by Mara Elliott, or e. Um, it was the committee review of ballot measures proposed by Mara Elliott, or e the office of city auditor and audit committee, and adopting a new council policy, establishing a code of civil discourse, office of the city attorney. That's so great, right? Because civil discourse. Is there any of that really happening around us? It's really bad these days, and you guys need to have some rules going on. And so it's good that you're in a rules committee, right? Making the rules, breaking the rules, trying to enforce rules that are totally unconstitutional. Uh, you guys are good puppets for the cabal. It's so good. So we'll see what happens today because this is going to be terrifying. Thank you very much for your comments. Our next speaker that we have in the virtual queue is Blair Beekman. Blair, this is on the past committee actions of January 31st. You will have one minute.

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