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San Diego Rules Committee Meeting: March 20, 2024

Rules CommitteeWednesday, March 20, 2024
BodySan Diego, California
SessionRules Committee
DateWednesday, March 20, 2024
StatusFILED
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2:16

All right.

2:17

Good morning, everyone.

2:18

Welcome to the rules committee meeting of March 20th, 2024.

2:22

Our committee manager Ty Birch will go over information and instruction for today's meeting.

2:26

Ty.

2:27

Thank you very much, Council President.

2:28

While members of the public are able to attend this meeting in person, the meeting is being televised and live streamed on the city's website, and Council Administration will continue to make arrangements for the public to comment using the Zoom webinar platform.

2:38

Additionally, members of the public who wish to provide virtual testimony via a call-in or internet-based service option must enter the virtual speaking queue within five minutes after the conclusion of in-person public testimony or before the virtual speaking queue is exhausted, whichever occurs first.

2:50

This will allow for bury me management between the two platforms and ensure that the committee is able to manage and conduct C business.

2:56

We appreciate the public's cooperation.

2:58

Council President.

3:00

Thank you, Ty.

3:02

All right.

3:07

Vice Chair, Council President Pro Tem Lakava.

3:10

Present.

3:10

Committee Member Lee.

3:11

Here.

3:14

Present.

3:15

And our chair, Council President Ilo Rivera.

3:17

Present.

3:18

And committee member Marino, would you like to make your declaration at this time?

3:21

Yes, I'd like to notify the rules committee that I'm going to be attending the meeting today remotely due to just cause related to child care needs.

3:29

So pursuant to the brownout.

3:31

I am disclosing that there are no individuals, 18 years of age or older present in the room with me, but I will update this disclosure if it changes during the course of the meeting.

3:39

Thank you.

3:40

Thank you very much, Council Member.

3:41

Also attending the meeting today is Gillian Andalina, Deputy Director of the Independent Budget Analyst Office, City Attorney Mara Elliott, and Deputy City Attorney Kathy Steinman and Director of Policy for Mayor Todd Gloria, Matt Ya Gagan.

3:52

If you are in person, please complete a speaker slip located at the entrance of chambers and place in the box indicate that the speaker's electron at the front of the room.

3:58

Please do so in a timely manner to ensure proper main management.

4:01

In-person testimony will conclude before virtual testimony begins.

4:04

Members of the public can join the webinar by computer tablet or smartphone by accessing the link, which is listed online in the preamble language of the agenda on the city's web page.

4:12

You may join the Zoom webinar by phone by dialing one six six nine two five four five two five two and when prompted input webinar ID one six zero five four nine eight one one seven pound.

4:21

This information is also available on the agenda and will appear on the screen during the public comment period for each agenda item.

4:26

Members of the public who wish to provide virtual testimony via call-in or internet-based service option option must enter the virtual speaking queue within five minutes after the conclusion of in-person public testimony or before the virtual speaking queue is exhausted, whichever occurs first.

4:39

If you are watching via C TV 24 online, there may be a delay, so please participate via the audio on your phone and mute your TV or computer when it is your turn to speak.

4:48

If you wish to speak on a particular item, please wait for that item to be called and then raise your hand to speak by tapping the raise your hand icon, or if you are a call-in participant, star nine on your cell phone or landline.

4:57

If you raise your hand during a non-comment period, your hand will be lowered.

5:00

Council President.

5:01

Thank you, Ty.

5:02

All right.

5:03

Um we've got a quorum just for the public's awareness.

5:06

We're going to do non-agenda public comment at the end of the meeting today.

5:10

And we will now take up the approval of committee minutes from February 21st, 2024.

5:16

Ty, do we have public comment on the minutes from February 21st?

5:20

Thank you very much, Council President.

5:22

We do not have any individuals that have submitted a speaker slip in chambers for the past minutes, but we do have one individual that has indicated that they wish to speak in the virtual queue, so I'll begin the five-minute timer.

5:31

Again, this is for the past minutes of February 21st, 2024.

5:35

And we will begin with the original.

5:37

You will have one minute.

5:40

Yes, you when I was um speaking, I was talking about surveillance tech and the border, but it didn't get into necessarily specifically what I was saying.

5:50

And you know, I'm what wanted to mention that, you know, with the influx and invasion at the border, and there's um you know a lot of people being dropped off on the streets.

5:59

It's a good way for you guys to implement more surveillance because you know it would be under the guise of safety um and security or something like that, as opposed and and come after the people as opposed to um you know protecting the people from an invasion that's happening um on the border that we are paying for.

6:19

It's the tax dollars of the people that is going to facilitate this huge operation that is very well organized.

6:27

And you know, so I think it's important for um you know it to be clear what I said um so that people understand what's really going on around them and know that um you know there's a problem.

6:40

Thank you very much for your comments.

6:41

And with that, Council President, that'll conclude testimony on the minutes.

6:44

Thank you, Ty.

6:45

Do we have a motion to approve the minutes?

6:48

A motion from Council Member Campillo, seconded by Council President Pro Temlacaba.

6:52

No additional request to speak to this item.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Public Comment█████████████████17%
Public Records Management███████████11%
Fiscal Sustainability██████████10%
Transparency██████████10%
Budget█████████9%
Procedural███████7%
Public Finance███████7%
Whistleblower Protections█████5%
Whistleblower Protection█████5%
Summary of Proceedings

San Diego Rules Committee Meeting: March 20, 2024

On March 20, 2024, the San Diego City Council Rules Committee met to consider several policy items including a proposed sales tax ballot measure, whistleblower protections, a centralized transparency office, a redistricting charter amendment, and updates to records management procedures. The committee took unanimous votes on most items, with a split vote on advancing the redistricting measure. Public testimony featured a wide range of voices, with many supporting the sales tax initiative while others raised concerns about trust, fiscal management, and alternative revenue sources.

Consent Calendar

  • Approval of Committee Minutes (February 21, 2024): Passed unanimously after one public speaker commented on surveillance technology and border issues.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Item 1 – Sales Tax Ballot Measure:

    • Supporters: Timothy Douglas (Local 127), Joyce Ngyada (District 3), Connor Robbins (Teamsters 911), Michael Zuquet, Matt Kotrinski (Local 127), Anthony Dang (Climate Action Campaign), and several virtual callers cited the need for infrastructure investment, better services, and a long-term plan. Many noted that San Diego has the lowest sales tax rate among large California cities.
    • Opponents: Shane Harris (People’s Association of Justice Advocates) argued that the city has mismanaged funds (citing 101 Ash Street) and that multiple tax hikes on the same ballot would burden residents. Paul Krueger (San Diego Taxpayers Association) recommended a sunset clause and performance plan, warning that without such protections the association would oppose the measure. Terry Hoskins questioned trust in the city’s spending. Lori Saldania suggested raising the Transient Occupancy Tax instead, noting it is lower than in other cities. Multiple callers echoed concerns about prior fiscal decisions and the lack of a dedicated plan.
  • Item 2 – Whistleblower Protections:

    • Supporters: Lori Saldania, the Original, and Blair Beekman all spoke in favor, emphasizing that city employees need real protections to report wrongdoing and that existing state law alone is insufficient. Many cited examples of retaliation and the need for a culture of transparency.
  • Item 3 – Office of Transparency:

    • Supporters: Joyce Ngyada, Lori Saldania (provided examples of redactions), Clifford Wheeler (retired attorney), Blair Beekman, the Original, and Shane Harris all supported a centralized PRA office, highlighting current inconsistent responses, high costs of litigation, and the public’s difficulty in obtaining records.
    • Concerns: Several speakers urged that the office be truly transparent and not just a rebranding, and that it consider ADA compliance.
  • Item 4 – Redistricting Ballot Measure:

    • Cautious Support: The Original encouraged open discussion and transparency. Blair Beekman raised equity and gerrymandering issues but supported the conversation.
  • Item 5 – Records Management Updates:

    • Supporters: Joyce Ngyada praised the culture shift toward digital access. Blair Beekman appreciated the participatory approach.
    • Opponent: the Original expressed concern about retention policies and the potential loss of historical records, citing difficulty obtaining election results.
  • Non-Agenda Public Comment:

    • Joyce Ngyada asked for a comprehensive customer service report and for clarification of rules on public campaigning.
    • Lori Saldania reported that 82% of women elected officials in the region experienced threats or harassment, and urged a code of conduct for board and commission appointees.
    • Blair Beekman requested that Police Accountability Board meeting videos be posted on YouTube within 7-10 days.
    • the Original called for more transparency regarding city spending on migrant housing and services.

Discussion Items

  • Item 1 – Sales Tax Ballot Measure: Mayor Todd Gloria and Councilmember Campillo introduced the proposal, framing it as a solution to the structural budget deficit and a $9.5 billion infrastructure backlog. Staff presented data showing San Diego’s sales tax rate (7.75%) is tied for the lowest among the 10 largest California cities and fourth lowest statewide. The city only retains 1% of that rate (about $375 million annually). The proposed 1-cent increase would generate approximately $400 million per year. Councilmembers discussed the need for a long-term plan, noting that a sunset clause would hamper planning. Councilmember Moreno expressed concern about competition with a countywide sales tax measure already on the November ballot and questioned whether the public understands the city’s fiscal crisis. The motion to advance staff analysis and draft framework passed unanimously.

  • Item 2 – Whistleblower Protections: City Attorney Mara Elliott explained that current state protections are insufficient and that codifying them in the municipal code, along with a centralized website and training, would empower employees to report misconduct. She referenced the Anaheim scandal as a cautionary tale. Councilmembers expressed support, with Councilmember Moreno asking that the draft ordinance return to the Rules Committee first. The motion passed unanimously.

  • Item 3 – Office of Transparency: City Attorney Elliott proposed a centralized office to coordinate and respond to PRAs, citing inconsistent responses, rising volume (from 639 requests in 2010 to over 7,000 in 2023), and nearly $500,000 in litigation payouts between 2019-2023. The IBA noted potential costs of $640,000 for new staff but suggested possible absorption. Council President Pro Tem Lakava moved to direct the IBA and city attorney to study whether the initiative can be budget-neutral and determine the best implementation path (municipal code amendment vs. operational directive). The motion passed unanimously.

  • Item 4 – Redistricting Ballot Measure: No formal presentation. Councilmember Lee moved to direct the city attorney and city clerk to work with the district six office to draft a ballot measure and return to the June 5, 2024 Rules Committee. Councilmember Campillo and Council President Pro Tem Lakava opposed, arguing the timeline was too tight for a charter amendment that won’t take effect until 2031, and that cost and unanswered questions warranted more time. The motion passed 3-2 (Lee, Moreno, and Council President Ilo Rivera in favor; Lakava and Campillo against).

  • Item 5 – Records Management Updates: City Clerk Diana Fuentes and Deputy Director Mark Webb presented changes to the municipal code and administrative guidelines to modernize records management, including shifting from “program” to “policy,” allowing digital-only retention for records over 10 years, and expanding permanent media to include microfilm. The office also seeks to align hours and storage with current needs. The motion to approve the ordinance and resolution passed unanimously.

Key Outcomes

  • Item 1 – Sales Tax Ballot Measure: Approved (unanimous) to request the mayor’s office and Council District 7, working with the IBA and city attorney, to provide preliminary fiscal, operational, and legal analysis and draft a ballot measure framework for a future Rules Committee meeting.
  • Item 2 – Whistleblower Protections: Approved (unanimous) directing the city attorney to prepare a draft ordinance adding whistleblower protections to the San Diego Municipal Code and return to a future Rules Committee meeting.
  • Item 3 – Office of Transparency: Approved (unanimous) directing the IBA and city attorney to confirm whether the initiative can be budget-neutral and to recommend an appropriate implementation path, then report back to the Rules Committee.
  • Item 4 – Redistricting Ballot Measure: Approved (3-2) to direct the city attorney and city clerk to work with Council District 6 to draft a ballot measure and return to the June 5, 2024 Rules Committee meeting.
  • Item 5 – Records Management Updates: Approved (unanimous) to forward the proposed ordinance and resolution to the full City Council for adoption.

The meeting adjourned at [time not specified] until the next Rules Committee meeting on April 18, 2024.

Meeting Transcript

All right. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the rules committee meeting of March 20th, 2024. Our committee manager Ty Birch will go over information and instruction for today's meeting. Ty. Thank you very much, Council President. While members of the public are able to attend this meeting in person, the meeting is being televised and live streamed on the city's website, and Council Administration will continue to make arrangements for the public to comment using the Zoom webinar platform. Additionally, members of the public who wish to provide virtual testimony via a call-in or internet-based service option must enter the virtual speaking queue within five minutes after the conclusion of in-person public testimony or before the virtual speaking queue is exhausted, whichever occurs first. This will allow for bury me management between the two platforms and ensure that the committee is able to manage and conduct C business. We appreciate the public's cooperation. Council President. Thank you, Ty. All right. Vice Chair, Council President Pro Tem Lakava. Present. Committee Member Lee. Here. Present. And our chair, Council President Ilo Rivera. Present. And committee member Marino, would you like to make your declaration at this time? Yes, I'd like to notify the rules committee that I'm going to be attending the meeting today remotely due to just cause related to child care needs. So pursuant to the brownout. I am disclosing that there are no individuals, 18 years of age or older present in the room with me, but I will update this disclosure if it changes during the course of the meeting. Thank you. Thank you very much, Council Member. Also attending the meeting today is Gillian Andalina, Deputy Director of the Independent Budget Analyst Office, City Attorney Mara Elliott, and Deputy City Attorney Kathy Steinman and Director of Policy for Mayor Todd Gloria, Matt Ya Gagan. If you are in person, please complete a speaker slip located at the entrance of chambers and place in the box indicate that the speaker's electron at the front of the room. Please do so in a timely manner to ensure proper main management. In-person testimony will conclude before virtual testimony begins. Members of the public can join the webinar by computer tablet or smartphone by accessing the link, which is listed online in the preamble language of the agenda on the city's web page. You may join the Zoom webinar by phone by dialing one six six nine two five four five two five two and when prompted input webinar ID one six zero five four nine eight one one seven pound. This information is also available on the agenda and will appear on the screen during the public comment period for each agenda item. Members of the public who wish to provide virtual testimony via call-in or internet-based service option option must enter the virtual speaking queue within five minutes after the conclusion of in-person public testimony or before the virtual speaking queue is exhausted, whichever occurs first. If you are watching via C TV 24 online, there may be a delay, so please participate via the audio on your phone and mute your TV or computer when it is your turn to speak. If you wish to speak on a particular item, please wait for that item to be called and then raise your hand to speak by tapping the raise your hand icon, or if you are a call-in participant, star nine on your cell phone or landline. If you raise your hand during a non-comment period, your hand will be lowered. Council President. Thank you, Ty. All right. Um we've got a quorum just for the public's awareness. We're going to do non-agenda public comment at the end of the meeting today. And we will now take up the approval of committee minutes from February 21st, 2024. Ty, do we have public comment on the minutes from February 21st? Thank you very much, Council President. We do not have any individuals that have submitted a speaker slip in chambers for the past minutes, but we do have one individual that has indicated that they wish to speak in the virtual queue, so I'll begin the five-minute timer. Again, this is for the past minutes of February 21st, 2024. And we will begin with the original. You will have one minute. Yes, you when I was um speaking, I was talking about surveillance tech and the border, but it didn't get into necessarily specifically what I was saying.

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