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San Francisco Police Commission Meeting - November 1, 2023

Police CommissionWednesday, November 1, 2023
BodySan Francisco, California
SessionPolice Commission
DateWednesday, November 1, 2023
StatusFILED
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0:09

Vice President Carter Overstone, like to take roll.

0:12

Commissioner Walker.

0:15

Present.

0:16

Commissioner Benedicto.

0:17

Present.

0:17

Commissioner Yanez.

0:18

Present.

0:19

Commissioner Byrne.

0:20

Here.

0:20

Commissioner Yee.

0:21

Here.

0:21

Vice President Carter Oberstone, you have a quorum.

0:24

Also with us tonight, we have Chief Scott from the San Francisco Police Department.

0:28

And I believe DPA is in route.

0:30

For members of the public, we are going to take one line item out of order.

0:34

We're going to do general public comment line item two first, and then we will do line item one.

0:41

All right, line item two, general public comment.

0:43

At this time, the public is now welcome to address the commission for up to two minutes on items that do not appear on tonight's agenda but are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the police commission.

0:52

Under police commission rules of order during public comment, neither police or DPA personnel nor commissioners are required to respond to questions by the public, but may provide a brief response.

1:00

Alternatively, you may submit public comment in either the following ways.

1:04

Email the Secretary of the Police Commission at SAPD.commission at SFgov.org.

1:09

Our written comments may be sent via U.S.

1:10

Postal Service to the public safety building located at 1245 Third Street, San Francisco, California at 94158.

1:16

If you would like to make public comment, please approach the podium.

1:19

Go ahead.

1:21

I'm sorry, guys, but I have to tell you the truth, okay?

1:24

I'm really really disappointed in you.

1:26

I'm really disappointed.

1:29

You are supposed to fight crime, and yet you hinder the police so completely that they can't do anything.

1:36

The second amendment gives them all power.

1:38

The well regulated militia shall not be uh infringed.

1:42

Stop meeting in limited in any way.

1:44

So I'm sorry, but I gotta fire.

1:46

I'm I have the authority to do this.

1:48

I'm an American citizen.

1:50

Along with my other American citizens, I can my fellow Americans, I can do this.

1:54

I'm gonna fire for you.

1:56

Yance, Benedito, Mocardo, and Elias.

2:01

I have to do it.

2:03

You are supposed to help, not hinder the police.

2:08

Anyone want to comment on that?

2:13

There's nobody to hold you accountable.

2:15

Hold who's holding you guys accountable, huh?

2:17

Well, from now on, it's gonna be Chief Scott.

2:20

Yeah, he's gonna do it from now on.

2:22

And I have the authority to make this happen.

2:24

And if you dare, if you dare, you know, uh disrespect my authority as an American citizen, you're gonna pay for it.

2:34

Thank you.

2:45

Good evening, Commissioners.

2:47

Contrary to what I say, every police commission, it's all good to see you all.

2:51

My name is Jay Connor Biertega, and I'm co-president of Econic D three.

2:55

I want to start by saying thank you to the men and women of the San Francisco Police Department for the work they do on our streets.

3:02

We truly cannot be a society without them keeping criminals scared.

3:07

For too long, the Board of Supervisors has neglected their duties of ensuring public resources going towards pragmatic solutions to ensure the general public can be safe.

3:18

And because they continue to neglect their responsibilities, our men and women in uniform are called upon to handle all kinds of calls in regards to public safety.

3:29

Now I've spoken to officers on the force, and I won't reveal their names lest they end up also leaked to the press.

3:36

But my conversations always consist of I'm scared of what will happen to me if I make any kind of mistake.

3:44

Now officers cannot be worried of what will happen to them when they make a mistake, when people, both residents and tourists alike, are being stabbed, shot, raped, mugged, and attacked constantly in our city.

3:58

I even woke up today and read about officers responding to some sort of pipe bomb incident.

4:04

Now, as I told the board just yesterday, the one silent majority who are becoming very vocal will no longer accept this as a reality of life.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Police Oversight████████████████████████████████████36%
Public Safety██████████████████████22%
Procedural███████████████████19%
Community Engagement█████████9%
Public Comment██████6%
Public Health███3%
Transportation Safety1%
Homelessness1%
Criminal Justice Data Management1%
Summary of Proceedings

San Francisco Police Commission Meeting - November 1, 2023

The San Francisco Police Commission met on November 1, 2023, at 1:45 PM to address routine business, receive reports, and discuss policy revisions and data on use of force disparities. Key actions included adopting a revised use-of-force policy for tire deflation devices, hearing the Chief’s crime report, and receiving a presentation on racial disparities in use of force.

Consent Calendar

  • Received and filed the DPA August/September 2023 monthly statistical report (unanimous vote, 6-0).
  • Adopted minutes from the meetings of October 4, 11, and 18, 2023 (unanimous vote, 6-0).

Public Comments & Testimony

  • An unidentified speaker criticized the commission for hindering police, claimed authority to fire commissioners, and expressed disappointment in the commission’s performance.
  • Jay Connor Biertega (Co-President of Econic D3) thanked SFPD officers, criticized the Board of Supervisors for neglecting public safety, stated that officers fear repercussions for mistakes, and asserted that the silent majority will no longer accept crime.
  • Alan Burodell thanked the previous speaker and later commented that discussions on overdose deaths and law enforcement should be properly agendized.
  • A speaker on the officer recognition line item stressed that police uniforms do not absolve responsibility.
  • During public comment on the Chief’s report: one speaker questioned the need for massive law enforcement presence for APEC; another supported the Chief’s enforcement efforts and community assistance; Mark Bruno discussed volunteer work with homeless and mental health; another speaker disputed the claim that law enforcement increases overdoses; and a mother of a homicide victim spoke about her son’s unsolved case and the Day of the Dead.
  • During commission reports, a member of the public argued that comments on policy should be made only after they are agendized to allow public preparation.

Discussion Items

  • Weekly Officer Recognition (Item 1): Sergeant Justin Bugarin was recognized for his work developing the Critical Mindset Coordinated Response (CMCR) training, which reduced use-of-force incidents. He received a statewide outstanding instructor award from the Commission on Police Officer Standards and Training (POST). Commissioners, the Chief, and DPA Director praised his impact on training and culture.
  • Chief’s Report (Item 5): Chief William Scott reported year-to-date crime statistics: overall crime down 7% (3,000 fewer crimes), violent crime up 2% (112 more incidents), property crime down 8% (3,000 fewer). Homicides up 7% to 46 (47th from a prior stabbing); gun violence down 6%; gun recoveries up 2% to 912. Detailed recent homicides, shootings, and an explosives incident where a suspect threw devices at officers. Discussed APEC preparations: thousands of law enforcement personnel, SFPD leading local tactics, Secret Service overall security, MOUs with local agencies, full mobilization of all officers ensuring station coverage. Commissioners asked about the tenderloin strategy; the Chief cited collaboration with health navigators (9 people accepted services in one night) and fentanyl seizures (100,000 grams since May 29). Commissioner Yanez raised concerns about increased overdose deaths possibly linked to enforcement, citing an Indianapolis study; the Chief argued for more time and a holistic approach. Commissioner Byrne noted increased federal prosecutions and asked about Union Square deployment; the Chief confirmed 16 officers assigned. Commissioner Yee asked about a fatal pedestrian collision and APEC joint exercises.
  • DPA Director’s Report (Item 6): Director Henderson reported 668 cases opened, 610 closed, 316 pending, 48 sustained, 21 cases past nine months, 18 of which are tolled. Highest allegation category: neglect of duty (14%). Mission station had most allegations this week.
  • Commission Reports (Item 7): Commissioner Walker requested that APEC coordination and agenda clarification be agendized. Commissioner Benedicto noted DGO 7.01 (juvenile policy) is posted for public comment. Vice President Carter Overstone announced a policy analyst position was frozen by the mayor, and requested a future presentation on reward policy reform. He defended Commissioner Yanez’s comments as within the agenda scope.
  • Discussion on DGO 5.01 – Tire Deflation Devices (Item 8): The commission discussed the revised policy on preemptive use of spike strips. The Chief requested a 30-business-day implementation delay due to APEC training constraints. The motion passed 6-0.
  • Presentation on Use of Force on People of Color (Item 9): Catherine McGuire (Strategic Management Bureau), Jason Cunningham (analyst), and Sergeant Rivera presented data on racial disparities. The per capita disparity ratio for Black vs. White individuals reached 25x in Q4 2022, driven by a larger decrease in White use-of-force counts. Cunningham explained the calculation method. Commissioner Yanez questioned why disparities persist despite policy changes (May and December 2022), asked about evidence-based outcomes for training (e.g., Sojourn trips), and pressed for measurable plans. Chief Scott noted challenges in determining causation, cited ongoing partnerships (CPE, Stanford, UC Berkeley), and argued that training rarely has direct outcome studies. Commissioner Benedicto emphasized the need to address the recent jump in disparities, not just the long-term trend. Commissioners discussed factors like command-directed enforcement, recidivism, and data limitations. DPA Director Henderson advocated for expanded data sharing. The presentation was received for discussion; no vote was taken.
  • Closed Session (Items 10-13): The commission voted 6-0 to hold a closed session and subsequently voted 6-0 not to disclose any discussion from closed session.

Key Outcomes

  • Adopted revised DGO 5.01 (tire deflation devices) with a 30-business-day implementation delay (unanimous, 6-0).
  • Received and filed DPA monthly statistical report (unanimous).
  • Adopted minutes from October 4, 11, and 18, 2023 (unanimous).
  • Voted to hold and not disclose closed session discussions (unanimous).
  • Directed the department to consider further analysis of the recent use-of-force disparity increase, including potential commission follow-up in early 2024.
  • Items identified for future agendas: APEC coordination, clarification of agenda rules, reward policy presentation, community policing manual status, and progress on juvenile pre-arrest diversion.

Meeting Transcript

Vice President Carter Overstone, like to take roll. Commissioner Walker. Present. Commissioner Benedicto. Present. Commissioner Yanez. Present. Commissioner Byrne. Here. Commissioner Yee. Here. Vice President Carter Oberstone, you have a quorum. Also with us tonight, we have Chief Scott from the San Francisco Police Department. And I believe DPA is in route. For members of the public, we are going to take one line item out of order. We're going to do general public comment line item two first, and then we will do line item one. All right, line item two, general public comment. At this time, the public is now welcome to address the commission for up to two minutes on items that do not appear on tonight's agenda but are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the police commission. Under police commission rules of order during public comment, neither police or DPA personnel nor commissioners are required to respond to questions by the public, but may provide a brief response. Alternatively, you may submit public comment in either the following ways. Email the Secretary of the Police Commission at SAPD.commission at SFgov.org. Our written comments may be sent via U.S. Postal Service to the public safety building located at 1245 Third Street, San Francisco, California at 94158. If you would like to make public comment, please approach the podium. Go ahead. I'm sorry, guys, but I have to tell you the truth, okay? I'm really really disappointed in you. I'm really disappointed. You are supposed to fight crime, and yet you hinder the police so completely that they can't do anything. The second amendment gives them all power. The well regulated militia shall not be uh infringed. Stop meeting in limited in any way. So I'm sorry, but I gotta fire. I'm I have the authority to do this. I'm an American citizen. Along with my other American citizens, I can my fellow Americans, I can do this. I'm gonna fire for you. Yance, Benedito, Mocardo, and Elias. I have to do it. You are supposed to help, not hinder the police. Anyone want to comment on that? There's nobody to hold you accountable. Hold who's holding you guys accountable, huh? Well, from now on, it's gonna be Chief Scott. Yeah, he's gonna do it from now on. And I have the authority to make this happen. And if you dare, if you dare, you know, uh disrespect my authority as an American citizen, you're gonna pay for it. Thank you. Good evening, Commissioners. Contrary to what I say, every police commission, it's all good to see you all.

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