President Clay, like to take role?

Yes, please.

Commissioner Techie.

Yeah.

Commissioner Scott is in route.

Commissioner Liang is excused.

Commissioner Yi.

Here.

Commissioner Alliance is in route.

Vice President Benedicto.

Present.

President Clay, you have a quorum.

Also with us tonight is interim Chief Paul Yep from the San Francisco Police Department and Acting Executive Director Sharon Wu for the Department of Police Accountability.

All right.

Well, thank you, Sergeant.

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for being here for the September 10th meeting of the San Francisco Police Commission.

At this time, we will start the agenda.

Sergeant?

Line item one, general public comment.

At this time, the public is now welcome to address the commission for up to two minutes on items that do not appear on tonight's agenda but are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the police commission.

Under police commission rules of order during public comment, neither police or DPA personnel nor commissioners are required to respond to questions by the public, but may provide a brief response.

Alternatively, you may submit public comment in either of the following ways.

Email the Secretary of the Police Commission at SFPD.commission at SFGov.org or written comments may be sent via US Postal Service to the public safety building located at twelve forty-five third street, San Francisco, California, nine four one five eight.

If you'd like to make public comment, please approach the podium.

Yes, sorry, it's me again.

I'd rather not be here, by the way.

But no choice.

Okay, so I was at the fire commission this morning.

I made a comment after the chief reports.

If you are interested, you can watch after the chief report.

Otherwise, tomorrow morning, uh the public safety and uh neighborhood committee, I'll be there too to make some comments.

I mean the central issue is pedophiles, uh, that runs the governments, but I'm gonna try to not insist too much on that tonight.

Yet we need to call them out.

You don't have to single out someone specifically.

It's not uh let's say there's black mail all over us.

Well, of course, as you know.

No, I don't want to forget how this time I mean the absolute intelligence, trying to hide behind AI, you know, it's absolute incompetence, absolute incompetence, AI, is using now big time music.

You see to uh indoctrinate everyone and makes everyone even more dumb with the technology that we have that these is been turned as a weapon, as you know.

So it's especially problematic because they target the kids.

I'm not uh that's not gonna work.

You see.

At school, the pledge is absolutely dumb music, uh.

Made by AI, absolute incompetence.

Okay.

Let me uh finish here.

The future is self-control.

You need to understand.

Yes, the future is self-control, miss.

Welcome.

So clearly enough, uh, absolute incompetence called AI cannot have achieved self-control, uh, it doesn't work, it's a machine.

So we're gonna have to do it ourselves, you know.

Self-control.

Control your emotions, everything.

Therefore, you don't become a pedophile.

You see, that's all it works.

Call them out, otherwise you'll be called a pedophile.

Have a good night.

He's speaking English fine good evening, police commission.

For the record, my name is Chris Workline.

Also, goodbye, Sergeant Klein, and I'm representing the Marine Corps Air Ground Task Force.

Uh this week, Senator John Burton, he just recently passed away, who saw a lot of political violence and at times we saw a lot of peace.

And I know it's hard to believe in the current environment that we're in.

Today, Charlie Kirk.

The same could be said for him.

Unfortunately, today he was a victim of political violence.

The report last week that I presented is actively being worked, and additional reports were presented to the police chief and the sheriff here locally and nationally to other law enforcement partners.

Let them and partnering with the Department of Justice, the FBI and the Department of Defense do the work, focusing on the next steps.

Let the police commission focus on what should be legal and not legal going forward.

Going forward, we need a balance of technology and privacy rights, protecting our constitution.

And bring bring it being in peace, unity, and a community.

Promote peace within this community at all cost.

The police, the social leagues, the other social leagues, the picnics, the community.

Be a community because we need a community.

We don't need war.

We need peace.

We are all tired of the political violence, the war here everywhere.

Be part of a social network.

Be part of a parade.

Hug your children.

Be there for your friends and your family.

Be there for each other.

Support the police, support the sheriff, support this commission.

And just again, you'll know what I'm talking about if you're watching the news over the last couple weeks.

You're going to see more bad news.

And hopefully, over the next couple of days, couple weeks, the temperature will come down.

And there's a lot of people focusing on that.

But we need everybody in this room, your friends and your family focusing on peace.

Thank you.

Good afternoon, Commissioners.

My name is Devon Anderson, and I'm speaking to you today as the President of TWU Local 200.

We appreciate the opportunity to address you and share our concern regarding recent public comments made by Director Paul Henderson of the Department of Police Accountability.

During last week's police commission meeting, Director Henderson stated in part, we were able to claw back or renegotiate to take back all those positions for the notified positions.

So we got those positions back from the intended layoffs from the notifications that were initially attributed for DPA.

Those came from the Board of Supervisors and with the mayor's office as well.

And when President Clay asked, so were you about to rescind all the termination notices and everyone came back?

Director Henderson responded, that's correct.

Let us be clear.

This statement is inaccurate.

The layoff notices issued to our members have not been rescinded.

Our members remain under the threat of termination and no formal action has been taken to reverse these notices.

The publicity suggests otherwise is not only misleading, it trivializes the very real anxiety and disruption these notices have caused for dedicated public servants.

We urge the commission to recognize the seriousness of this misstatement.

When a public official misrepresents the status of workers' employments, it undermines trusts, damages morale, and creates confusion across the workforce and the public.

TW Local 200s remain committed to advocating for fairness, procedural integrity, and honest communication.

Re-respectfully request that the Commission seek clarification from director Henderson to ensure that the future statements are good evening.

And I was just wondering, I'm still want to bring up that there's we need other ways to publicize this because I said at the at the visual, it was just said to the media and to the audience that was out there.

So I was wondering was there other ways to publicize this?

I know I'm gonna be working with a few of the of you to help this get out there more.

I just wanted to bring it up again so that it won't be pushed under, you know, um, the cover.

We need our cases saved.

I was just with a couple of mothers today, and we were also talking about facial recognition.

So we want to work on that also, but mainly to get the word out about the way to pay Tipsters concerning this legislation.

It was signed by the mayor, so we want to get this out there.

I know other things have been signed before, but I didn't come this far just to have something signed and not have it implemented.

It needs to be out there so mothers like myself and other mothers can have some hope that our children's cases are gonna be solved.

I know that sometimes we we we were about this is just gonna be on the black neighborhood, but when are our silences continuing to kill?

We need to fix this.

This legislation needs to be out there and publicized even more now because it's not.

So thank you very much.

Any member of the public has any information regarding the murder of Abre Aberkassa?

You can call the anonymous 24-7 tip line at 415-575-444.

That is the end of public comment.

Line item two, consent calendar, receive and file action.

Semi-annual report to the police commission sexual assault evidence kit January 1st through June 30th, 2025, second quarter 2025 firearm discharge review board summary report, and SFPD and DPA's SB 1421 and SB16 monthly reports for August 2025.

All right.

Is there any motion here?

Motion receive and file.

Oh second.

Any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item two, consent calendar, please approach the podium.

There is no public comment.

On the motion, Commissioner Techke, how do you vote?

Yes.

Commissioner Techie is yes.

Commissioner Scott?

Yes.

Commissioner Scott is yes.

Commissioner Yi?

Yes.

Commissioner Yi is yes.

And Vice President Benedicto?

Yes.

Vice President Benedict was yes.

And President Clay.

Yes.

President Clay is yes.

You have five yeses.

Line item three, Chief's report, discussion, weekly crime trends, and public safety concerns.

Chief, yeah.

Thank you, Sergeant.

Good evening, President Clay, Commissioners, Acting Director Wu, and members of the general public.

I will start with my Chief's update for the week of September 1st through September 7th.

It's a somewhat lengthy update, so I will go as fast as I can and abbreviate some of the updates for you.

I would like to start by providing follow-ups from the previous Commission meeting.

Ms.

Paulett Brown, admin code 10.100-306, the homicide reward.

The major change in that legislation for us is that the reward can be paid with the filing of charges rather than a successful uh conviction.

That is a huge change.

So we are looking at our written directives, uh, potentially a department notice to update our directives for our members and to move forward with that legislation internally.

In response to the incidents involving civil immigration enforcement, uh, and particularly when I spoke of Department Notice 25-089 last week.

Uh there were questions about whether the policy is posted.

It is in fact available online.

It is posted.

That evening, our strategic communications director also posted it on social media.

I have asked that that department notice be made in different languages.

Uh the policy and uh department is coordinating the translation into core languages, uh, which will be they have submitted the request, so that's in progress.

Also, there was a question about its alignment with other State and City directives.

So the policy is in line with Administrative Code 12H, 12i and DJO 5.15.

It did not change any part of DJO 5.15.

It only provided clarification and direction on members for our members on civil immigration enforcement.

With this notice, it addition it provided additional guidance was provided regarding Federal agents who are not readily identifiable, stating that both members and supervisors should attempt to verify the credentials when it is safe and practical.

As far as its compliance with State's SB 54 Values Act, we uh are reviewing the entire act to make sure that we are also in alignment with that.

So thank you for that question.

Commissioner Scott asked about a crime alert system potentially using techs.

So our field operations deputy chief, Deputy Chief Liu.

Uh we've directed him to have a conversation with the Department of Emergency Management Liaes on to review what possibilities exist, or if there would be alternatives.

So we are taking that request seriously and moving it into a exploratory phase.

There was a question regarding recruitment and staffing from Commissioners Yi and Techie.

Uh that's a pretty complex um question that requires a presentation rather than me just trying to.

It's rather complex in that there are a lot of moving parts, a lot of things we are doing.

So we are looking into a presentation by our admin deputy chief Nicole Jones, along with Captain Frost, who works in staff services for a future meeting.

And there was a question from President Clay about clearance rates.

And I'm just gonna give you, I'm just gonna run down a table of clearance rates, and we're gonna compare year to date 2024 to 2025.

Um I'm not gonna go over every category.

Homicides, the clearance rate in 2024 was 94 percent, which is fantastic.

It is 153 percent this year, which is beyond fantastic.

Uh they are solving past cases, and they're really knocking it out of the park.

So robberies, 23 percent clearance rate in 2024, 28.8 percent in twenty this year, uh, an increase in 20.6 percent.

Assaults, 40 percent clearance rate last year, 40.9 percent this year, increase in 2.2 percent.

They're all up across the board.

Burgeries, 12.6 percent in 2024, 17 percent this year, up 30 34.3 percent, motor vehicle or stolen vehicles, motor vehicle theft, 7.1 percent last year, 9.1 percent this year, an increase of 28.6 percent.

Larceny thefts, 8.1 percent last year, 8.8 percent this year, uh it interestingly a change of 8.8 percent up.

Just for contextual uh homicide, you know, I really touted that.

In 2020, I have a five-year average, it's been going up every year, 77 percent clearance rate.

So we've essentially doubled that clearance rate um this year.

I want to bring uh the attention to Larceny and thefts, uh, because that kind of it goes up and down through the years, but in 2020, we had a clearance rate of 4 percent.

It went down to 2.3 percent in 2021, 2.6 percent in 2022, 3 percent in 2023, 8.1 percent, big jump in 2024, and 8.8 percent percent, as I stated earlier this year.

So over time, it also has been a tremendous increase.

Uh, and I just kind of want to point out those particular statistics.

Okay.

Those are responses to questions that were posed last week.

Now I'll give you a summary of crime this week.

Overall, and this is year to date.

Overall crime, part one crimes down 25 percent for the year.

Total violent crimes are down 19 percent.

Uh there were 16 homicides in 2025 as compared to 24 in 2024, representing a 33 percent decrease this year.

There was one homicide for the week ending uh September 7th, so a summary, I'll write a summary in a few minutes.

Looking at gun violence, which is defined as the number of people injured in a shooting incident added to the number of persons killed by a firearm, we're down 28 percent compared to 2024.

The one crime where the crime trend is up is human trafficking, so I kind of want to discuss that.

So human trafficking incidents are up 100% with 18 reported incidents this year compared to nine last year.

However, I'm gonna offer a potential reason.

Uh this may be due to the additional attention being paid by responding officers to look for the elements of human trafficking when connecting with potential victims in the field.

Um so I think there's really a training issue that might have been addressed that that um has caused our officers to identify human trafficking more ably than they had in the past.

So it's important to note that our clearance rate in this category is 35.3 percent, which is up 182 percent compared to the clearance rate of human trafficking in 2024.

So human trafficking incidents are up, but I just want to provide some context.

Total property crime is down 26 percent, burglaries are down 28 percent, the trend that we've been seeing year over year since 2021.

Larsenian theft, I went over that in detail.

Oh, actually, I went over the clearance rates, but larceny theft, which includes vehicle breweries, are down 20 percent overall.

21 percent.

Okay, I'm gonna move on to significant incidents.

There was an officer involved shooting in the Bayview district, um, but it involved an Inglesight district call for service.

So on September 4th this year, an officer involved shooting occurred in the area of northbound U.S.

101 at the Cesar Chavez off ramp in the Bayview Police District.

Additional information, including the identity of the officer and the release of body worn camera footage of this incident will be provided uh at our town hall, which is scheduled for this Friday, September 12th at 3 p.m.

A press release will be generated in a website updated with information on how to join that town hall.

I want to note that LEP or limited English proficiency members of the public may obtain translated information for this town hall.

Homicides.

One homicide this week.

The summary was reported last week as it occurred prior to the commission meeting, so I won't go over the details again in this meeting.

There has, I will give you an update.

There has been no arrest at this time.

Shootings.

One shooting resulted in injuries to one victim, Colvin Gate at Leavenworth in the tender lane on September 3rd at 7:42 p.m.

So I believe that's when we were here.

Reports of multiple shots fired in the area of Golden Gate and Leavenworth.

Additional reports indicated that shots were heard on the 100 block of Jones.

A victim was located and transported with in serious condition.

The preliminary information is the suspect approached the victim.

An argument ensued in which time the suspect shot at the victim.

The victim returned fire.

A firearm was discarded by the suspect, and another individual who was identified by surveillance video footage that was reviewed by Arctic.

Resulted in the retrieval of the firearm.

Although we received we took possession of the firearm, the suspect of the of this original shooting is still outstanding.

So we recovered the firearm, but the suspect is outstanding.

Okay.

Although there was only one shooting during the reporting period, there were two shooting incidents that occurred Tuesday that I, since they're occurred recently, I'll just address in this meeting at a high level.

During which time the victim shoved the suspect, the suspect produced a firearm and shot the victim one time, then fled on foot.

The victim was transported in stable condition.

To my knowledge, before I entered the commission meeting tonight, there were no arrests.

I'll provide an additional update next week.

Also, in the evening, there was uh last night, so September 9th, the shooting in the Bayview with multiple victims.

Approximately 5:48 p.m.

Officers responded to the 1500 block of BERC regarding a shooting incident.

Preliminary information shows that a physical altercation occurred in what appears to be an illicit cannabis operation.

During the altercation, multiple shots were fired, injuring six individuals.

Is the information I have for now.

Five of the victims were treated in San Francisco.

A sixth victim was treated and released at a hospital outside of San Francisco.

So they self-transported for medical assistance.

That is an ongoing investigation, and that's so I'm just giving you the just high-level view of what happened.

Also, last night uh there were uh so September 9th.

Shots fired at San Francisco General Hospital at 6.38 p.m.

while on scene at the hospital.

Officers and investigators heard several shots coming from the 23rd Street side of the hospital.

A sergeant that was responding to the hospital just because of the sheer amount of victims and um potential witnesses that were located in the hospital area.

He uh stopped a driver uh contemporaneously with this incident.

Um injured at with the shooting at the hospital from that we know from the hospital shooting, we did recover the firearm, and that sergeant did make an arrest, who we believe is a suspect in the shooting at the hospital.

Okay.

So uh during question during the question time.

So possession of a it's been a very busy week.

Possession of a loaded firearm with serial number removed and large capacity magazine in the mission district.

That is an arrest that occurred on September 1st at 1026 p.m.

on the 2900 block uh of Mission Street, so 24th in mission.

Another arrest, possession of firearm by a prohibited person resisting arrest.

Also in the tender line on September 5th this year at 4.23 p.m.

at Holiday Plaza.

A burglary, hot prow, unlawful entry vehicle, a stolen vehicle, uh arrest made in the park district uh on September 5th at 3.06 a.m.

on the 1600 block of hate.

That case is assigned to burglary, arrests made.

Arrests following investigation of multiple illegal gambling operations throughout San Francisco.

Arrests following investigation of multiple illegal gambling operations throughout San Francisco on September 3rd, officers assigned to mission, tenderloin narcotics, citywide plain clothes team, the tactical unit SFPD Canon Cooper, named here, executed five search warrants at businesses located on the 300 block of Turk, 1900 block of mission, and the 2,000 block of mission street.

Officers developed probable cause, which led to arrest of four subjects for violations related to the operating of illegal gambling parlors, outstanding arrest warrants, possession of narcotics and weapons.

SFPD arrested suspects involved in a robbery in the Northern District on September 30, September 3rd at 9.20 a.m.

Officer made an arrest of a robbery with force incident in the northern district on September 3rd at 9.15 a.m.

at Hayes and the Visitor.

There's a lot of cooperation here, so I'll kind of just go through this one really quickly.

The vic a victim exited Muni when a subject approached her from behind and grabbed a gold necklace from her neck.

The subject tried to grab the victim's purse but was unsuccessful.

The suspect fled into a waiting vehicle.

Arctic was able to identify the license plate of the suspect vehicle, and the vehicle was located on eastbound I-80.

The Arctic coordinated assistance from CHP helicopter or the CHP's helicopter, and a felony stop was initiated with all three suspects inside the vehicle taken into custody.

Officers made an arrest of a robbery with force in the mission district on September 6th at 1143 p.m.

on the 2000 block of Market Street that's been assigned to our robbery detail.

Our department made 60 arrests in a DMAC fugitive recovery enforcement operation on Wednesday, September 3rd.

I won't go into those details.

Okay.

A fatal traffic collision occurred on September 4th at 570 517 p.m.

at Laguna Honda in the park district.

An LRV versus pedestrian on September 7th at 4:30 p.m.

Market Street in the tender line.

Pedestrian became wedged between the train and the elevated platform, causing serious injuries.

The victim was extracted by SF fire and transported for treatment.

Okay.

Commission President Clay, Commissioner Benedito, Commissioner Liang, Commissioner Yi for supporting the police and fire masks this past Sunday.

So thank you for your attendance there.

It's very much appreciated.

I'm going to speak to some upcoming events associated with the police department.

We have a 9-11 remembrance tomorrow morning at 6 40 a.m.

at Public Safety Building.

That's led by fire, the fire department, but will include police, fire, and sheriffs.

The graduation of our 235th Academy class will occur this Thursday, Thursday evening at the 35th or 80th.

Oh, 85th, sorry, the 280th.

Yes.

Yes.

The 285th.

Thank you.

I read the material.

Yes.

Okay.

All right.

And then some events coming up in San Francisco during the coming week.

There's a Shabuzi concert, free concert in the Northern District at Civic Center Plaza.

That goes from 3 p.m.

to 7 p.m.

And in the Michigan district on Saturday, September 13th, there is a fiesta de las Americas event.

That goes from 11 a.m.

to 6 p.m.

along 24th Street within the Cali 24 Latino Cultural District.

Finally, I want to address two items of media interest from this past week.

There were media stories regarding the death of a police recruit at our training facility.

So what I want to say is that I won't be speaking to that.

It's a tragic event involving a medical emergency.

But I want to say that there are multiple independent investigations that are occurring right now, including Cal OSHA and the medical examiner's office.

So we are waiting for reports from those entities.

And there was also a media report or multiple media reports regarding our APLR usage and which is automated license plate reader network.

So I'm just going ahead and read a statement that we provided the media, because not all the statement was in print.

So the San Francisco Police Department takes privacy very seriously, and we have strict policies governing how we use technology to keep San Francisco safe.

Our Flock Automated License Plate Reader Network has been a valuable public safety tool to help our officers solve crime.

This network has changed how we police in our city, allowing officers to identify suspects more efficiently and with more precision than ever before.

And it has helped lead to this historic drop in both violent and property crimes.

When the SFPD launched our FLOC system in 2024, we individually reviewed our requests from other agencies to share our LE LPR data.

Our Department only approve requests from local state law enforcement agencies inside of California in compliance with state law.

According to a recent audit of our network, it appears agencies outside of California had the ability to query SFPD's flock system for a limited period of time.

The out of state queries stopped in mid-February this year.

We are actively looking into with our vendor what this platform, what mi what mechanism could allow for sharing.

However, to my knowledge, our administrators of this system have not knowingly allowed for out-of-state sharing.

So we are looking into the mechanism of how this happened.

The administrators that I am aware of within the department that I have talked to have not allowed for out-of-state sharing.

So we're looking into how this happened.

So that's going to deal with the technology and the mechanisms in which that happened.

Okay.

So the San Francisco Police Department is invest investigating information contained in these audits, including whether out of state agencies were able to access our system.

We are also investigating whether agencies outside of California obtained any ALPR information after attempting to search our system.

So although the audit shows that out-of-state agencies search, we don't know if they were able to obtain information from that search.

So we just don't know at this point.

Additionally, we are launching, will be launching a flock transparency portal where the public can view all the agencies that SFPD is sharing with.

So those would be in-state agencies.

So this would be a great time for me to remind the public that except as permitted by applicable law, members are members, San Francisco Police Department members are prohibited from assisting in the enforcement of Federal immigration laws.

We believe in this approach because it fosters an environment where all community members feel safe interacting with our local authorities, thereby enhancing overall public safety and community relations.

So that is the end of my report.

Thank you.

All right.

Well, Chief, on that note, having you read your statement.

I have some specific questions.

I just want you to go on record because I think your statement answers them after I reviewed what was had been written by the I guess the articles that have written been written the last couple of days.

First of all, this was not a problem that occurred on your watch.

This is before your time that this disinformation or these breaches occurred.

Well, it's yeah.

Thank you, President Clay, for that question.

It's been brought to my attention now, uh very recently.

Uh I am so uh I have taken action since I have been here, but now I have to look at historical records to see dating back to when we have to do that.

Really when we adopted this system.

So yes, there is historical knowledge that I am not aware of at this point.

All right.

So did the the San Francisco Police Department directly provide this license plate reader data information collected by Flock to any prohibitive agency federal or in or out of state, to your knowledge?

Sorry, President Clay, can I ask you to repeat that question?

Sam, did the San Francisco Police Department directly provide this information from Flock to any prohibitive agency, Federal or State, in or out?

To my knowledge, we have not provided with that.

Does the San Francisco Police Department have a policy to provide its data collection information to agencies that are not eligible under California law to receive such?

We have state law and we have a 19B policy, internal policies.

Did the San Francisco Police Department sign a non-disclosure or do not share data agreement with Flock?

I would have to review our information to give you a answer to that.

I asked that because it is your information.

And a lot of these tech companies, when they come in and they do work for businesses, I have seen them before because I had the security division of the court for 15 years and dealt with these computer contracts, et cetera.

You have an opportunity, and I don't know if you did it or not, whether or not we signed a non-disclosure agreement that they would not share your data with some other agency without your permission and without your knowledge.

Thank you for the question, President Clay.

So the I believe those documents were signed prior to my butt.

And I can provide you to the question.

Because that's my follow-up question was did the terms of that agreement set forth Flock was prohibited from sharing and releasing this or disclosing San Francisco data to agencies outside those eligible under California law or under your contract without your permission.

So that would I would like you to, if you in your inquiry, could you could you look into that?

Yes, presently.

I I will look at our existing contracts and the contracts that were signed and the agreements that were signed previously.

And I know you're you are earlier in the investigation because this stuff has just come out, but in what you have done so far, uh did you determine whether or not San Francisco did not directly violate or release authorized uh information to these other outside agencies as been stated?

What I know that is that uh we, to our knowledge have not well not knowingly enabled the Flock system to share out of state.

So from my inquiries so far, that is my understanding that uh whatever triggers the out-of-state inquiries to be enabled.

Uh we have, to my knowledge, the people that I have spoken to that are administrators, have not enabled that feature.

Or it is their understanding that that feature was in a position where it was not sharing out of state information.

So at this time has Flock been contacted regarding the issues that have surrounds San Francisco in terms of the data that was obtained from these outside agencies?

We, along with the City Attorney's Office, are uh either communicating with Flock or attempting to communicate with Flock to determine what happened in this instance or with these inquiries.

I mean, to that extent, Chief, you know you are you are well aware of the city sanctuary policy.

You just put it on record.

So you you know that.

And we just do you give the the Commission and this city the assurance that the San Francisco Police Department, under your leadership, will mandate that the Department and the San Francisco Police Officer abide by this sanctuary policy?

Yeah, absolutely.

Yes.

And in making it clear, you understand that that any intentional violation or disobeying of this policy by any member of the San Francisco Police Department will subject that individual to department discipline at the highest level.

Yes.

Thank you, Chief.

I have nothing further.

Thank you.

Commissioner Elias?

Hi, Chief.

How are you?

Hi, Commissioner.

I just wanted to follow up because I was a little confused because you had just said a few minutes ago that you were looking into how this happened and that you the investigation was ongoing.

Is that is that right?

Yes.

So you've sort of being asked questions about what what's happened, but the investigation is not over, right?

Correct.

So um will the audit report you mentioned the audit report.

Will the audit report findings be available to the public to view, or are they available to the public?

Well, they were made available through a public record act request.

Okay.

Uh so we compiled the data and fulfilled that request.

Okay.

But the actual audit report findings?

So it was just the way that it was sort of discovered was through a public records request that the department didn't do anything affirmative to post it or make it available to the public prior to that?

Commissioner, I don't believe that we've posted that report publicly.

Okay.

Will you be doing that given sort of the article and what's come out and the statements you just made?

I'll consult with the city attorney's office to see.

Okay.

And then the transparency portal, that's great news.

Do you know when that's going to be up and running and will it be I'm assuming it's going to be on the uh police department's website?

I I don't have a date for you, but I know that we're really far into the whatever it takes to be on to make that portal available, we're very close to And what information will the portal have for the public?

Um I'd like to get back to you on all the details, but I know specifically uh what will be made known is to with with what agencies we are sharing information with within California.

So I believe it's going to be who's asking us to share information and who we agreed to share information with.

And will it be in real time?

Meaning when when you get a request from an A, like will it show okay, these agencies have asked us for this information on this date and then report it in real time, or will it just be historical?

I will say it's real time, real time.

Because it's not it's new, uh meaning that it's a feature that we want to have and we want to be transparent.

So I don't think it's going to go.

You know, it will start with who we're sharing with, I I believe.

Uh huh.

So, you know, uh this is subject to change.

But I believe it's going to be who we're sharing with within California now.

So out of state is out of the question.

So within California, and then it will be new requests and new denials or acceptances to other agencies.

And since Commissioner Clay brought up the contract that you signed and you acknowledged signing it, I think that would also be like some of that information is to will also be helpful on the portal as well, showing like what the what you should what you are uh what they're allowed to share and what they're not allowed to share.

Uh yeah, let me clarify.

So I was not chief when the flock agreements were signed.

Uh huh.

So I actually have to go back and look to see what the agreement was because I was not part of a party to that.

So got that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right, got it.

But I'm saying like the terms of of you know the outline of the contract and what the department was prohibited or not prohibited to provide or not provide.

Yeah, I will uh definitely look into those and then I'll consult with the city attorney to see what can be made available.

And then you said that um it was for the the outside or the access to this information by outside agencies that weren't approved by the department stopped uh mid-February 2025 and it occurred.

Um what was the length of time that the uh information was being shared with outside agencies without your knowledge?

So I know when it ends, but when did it begin?

Yeah, I don't have the exact answer for you.

That's definitely something I can get.

I mean, I have an estimation, but I don't want to give you interactive information.

Well, and I assume that's also part of the investigation that's still underway.

Are you almost complete with the investigation or is this midway through the investigation or I would say we're really in the beginning.

Okay.

Okay.

So still a lot to unpack.

Yeah, there's a lot to unpack.

Okay.

Yeah.

And then um if you could also to I think it would be good to provide information or just you had indicated that uh when it launched in 2024, since it's relatively new that that you had uh that there was a policy of review before or uh you would review the requests when people uh requested the information.

Um was the review by uh upper level manager or maybe explain to the public how that worked a little bit?

Because you talk about the approval process, so I was just wondering if you could explain that a little bit.

It would be, you know, to my knowledge, because I you know I know the the people that I expect are reviewing those.

There they're going to be uh managers.

Okay.

Yeah.

Uh supervisors and managers.

Is it the direct level um person from the administrator or is it deputy chief or it could be the administrator or uh when you say administrator, I'm sorry, what what do you mean by that?

Uh meaning who had access to the program?

Okay.

Yeah.

For the actual flock um system.

Uh huh.

Whoever managed that.

So that's so I don't know historically who had managed it in the past.

Those are things that I'm looking at.

Okay.

So to answer your question, what was your question?

Well, who's the who who approves this?

Is it just their immediate supervisor?

So if I'm the administrator and I'm the person that receives these requests and reviews them and processes them, do I go to my supervisor and who is that?

Is that a deputy chief and and assist in chief or a captain?

Who you know?

I think that's what I'm asking to start.

Generally the people that I know that are working in this within this system are going to be lieutenants and captains.

Okay.

Okay.

Great.

And then I I had a few other questions regarding the training recruit.

Thank you for acknowledging that.

I think that's really important.

I know that there's pending litigation.

Um the qu I had two questions.

You had indicated that there were multiple investigations going on at um regarding this incident.

Um is the department um waiting for those investigative results before it does its own investigation, or is your investigation also concurrently with the other investigations by outside agencies?

They are concurrent.

Okay.

And then the other question I had is um I know that we talk about behavioral science uh unit and how it's available to officers.

Um I wanted to inquire, I I assume I know the answer, but I wanted you to um confirm and share with the public that also those services would be available to the uh recruits uh as well, uh his fellow classmen or class class women, um they would be able to access those services from the department in the event that they need any counseling or mental health.

Yes.

And I know that uh we had a big call out from those members to assist in this incident, along with family members.

So not only the recruits, but the family members that were affected by this.

Great.

So the our I don't know if you want to elaborate on what behavioral health sciences are to the new commissioners or the public, but sort of what those services would be.

Yeah, thank you.

We have trained on call uh generally officers that you know in incidents where uh there's um the potential for trauma and you know um uh you know I I think we're involved in a lot of incidents where it affects our emotions and um and they're traumatic events.

So including this one.

Right.

So we have a cadre of trained uh quite a few, I think it's you know, I'll get the exact number.

I think it's a hundred or more officers that are trained that are on call that will at a phone call come to assist.

And they're trained in counseling.

Um they you also have counselors and psychiatrists and doctors too available, right?

We do.

So we have a full team.

Um and thank you.

There's different levels, so it's not only your peers, but there's professionals and I can tell you that all of those were activated and engaged, and there's family support, uh referrals to other professionals.

Um we do have a robust uh, you know, I it's actually something we can be very proud of.

It's a robust plan and um obviously it came into play um in this tragic event.

And we took full advantage of using those resources.

Um I'm just thinking about the trauma of that man who was shot by the essence of the officer health crisis on one.

I'm sorry, but public comment is not at the moment going on at the moment.

So I'm hoping to hear about this on Friday?

I know that's a virtual business.

Thank you, ma'am.

You can when we have public comment and you can come up at that time.

Yep.

Sorry, Chief, if you could finish, please.

Yeah.

So uh yeah, so it's it's it's a program, uh it's you know, for any traumatic incident involving an officer, anything associated with an officer or families, uh it extends to potentially you know, anybody that's affected by whatever that incident is.

So um it is a service that we provide internally.

I'm glad.

And I'm always happy to highlight the amazing work that the behavioral health sciences do at in the department.

We receive so many uh compliments from officers and outsiders about the amazing work that they've done and they've um presented here before the commission.

Thank you.

I my my final question is regarding your um report regarding crime stats.

Um uh specifically human trafficking, does the human trafficking also include labor trafficking uh in that category as well?

Yes.

Okay.

And then um you indicated that you weren't uh really aware as to why the incre the substantial increase from last year um and you think it's a a a training issue.

Um and I'm trying to figure out if well I guess my question would be is if you could drill down more and find out more why that there's been a spike in that um and also to um you indicated the clearance rate was 30 what percent?

It's 34 or 35.

It was 30 percent, but I guess my question is is that given the rise, the significant rise in this category of offenses, um is there something that can be done to increase the clearance rate?

The clearance rate is 35.3 percent.

Okay.

Which is up 182 percent from 2024.

So although uh our incidents are up 100 percent, our clearance rate is also uh up.

So it would be good to know what uh sort of steps uh are being taken to help increase that clearance rate in that category because I think that sort of given the times, I think labor trafficking is an emerging um crime that I think is now being more recog recognized by um law enforcement agencies and uh legislators legislatures and um money has been given to combat those types of issues.

So by definition, it's a labor issue.

Um happy to draw down and get you more information.

Because the sexual trafficking also is incorporated in human trafficking because it's such a wide bucket.

You're right.

Generally people don't think of human trafficking as labor related, but it 100 percent is, yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

All right, great chief.

Thank you so much.

I appreciate it.

Yep.

Commissioner Benedicto.

Thank you very much.

President Clay, uh, thank you for that report.

Uh Chief.

Uh just a couple of questions.

I think a lot of my questions were covered by President Clay and uh Commissioner Elias.

Um I know that uh we talked last week about department notice 25-089, which focused on the you know physical interactions with ICE enforcement.

I think given the this ongoing investigation on data sharing, I think it's worth wondering if there needs to be clearer policies on that data side too, since I think for some people there is so I don't know if that is in the form of department notice or after the investigation is done to just assess whether or not that needs to happen.

I don't want to jump to the end of the investigation, but I think it's important that the concern for the immigration enforcement related sharing is both physical and now also virtual.

And then looking through 25089 doesn't have anything on that.

Yeah, I appreciate that question because I I want to double down on that.

Whatever technology we were using were knowingly well, knowingly in compliance with sanctuary city law, and we'll double down on that, whether it's license plate readers or or anything else.

So I don't want to conflate that.

If something happens out of state, you know, outside of our knowledge, that's one thing.

Uh I have no indicators that there is anything internal that I'm aware of that we we know not to share uh any of our information when it comes to federal immigration enforcement.

So I think I answered your question.

But I'm just saying absolutely.

Uh if I found that to be the case, I would just bring it to light too uh immediately.

Thank you for saying that, Chief, and reaffirming that commitment.

I know that means a lot to this Commission and to the members of the public in what is you know a really scary time right now.

Um you mentioned that it the out-of-state sharing stopped in mid-February 2025.

What is the reason that it stopped?

Is it because that it was was it SFPD initiated?

Was it uh yeah, so what do you know are you at that point in the investigation yet?

I am going to give you the best answer I can.

I believe that Flock for whatever reason, and I can't speak for them.

Uh built-in I I'm not I might not be using the right terms.

A firewall.

Uh that would not even allow us to share.

I I believe, but uh we'll have I'll have to kind of confirm that.

So that is my understanding as of now.

So to your knowledge, it was it was on the flock side, it was not on the SFPD side in the same thing.

Because even at that time we have to do that.

At that point we wouldn't even you didn't know.

Okay.

Well we just assumed that there was no share.

Yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

That's very helpful because I know that was not clear.

Um I'm very glad to hear that you're looking into the mechanisms of how it happened.

I think it would make sense once you have uh you know a fuller sense in the investigation is is f further along to maybe have um an SME do a presentation before the Commission as a as an agenda item, both for the Commission and the members of the public to know uh how this uh to receive that information.

Um while that sharing is stopped, I also just want to confirm that the California agency sharing that is done by explicit approval, that is that remains ongoing pursuant to SFPD's policies, correct?

Yes.

Okay.

Organizationally, where is that housed?

Is it in risk management or like the the process of other agencies requesting and either getting an approval or denial?

Where does that live in SFPD?

Investigations.

In investigations, okay.

Um I think that uh there were a lot of, you know, I know that President Clay and Commissioner Lyas asked a lot about you know how the investigation is going, and I'm glad to hear the report.

I think one focus that I want to make sure is that we're being ahead and looking forward and being proactive looking forward.

I think it's this commission has moved a lot to uh enable the SFPD to adopt new technologies.

A lot of us have gone visits to the Arctic and and uh whether it's drones or flock cameras.

I think we want to make sure that whenever there are new technologies being adopted, that we're being careful to think both about the kind of first order implications and also those unintended consequences, second order implications.

Um I think that as SFPD does this auto, does this investigation, it looks beyond just flock, you know, all of our drones um you know are recording and storing footage that are likely saved on a cloud that is not SFPD owned.

But you know, evidence.com and axon stores all of our body one camera footage.

And so I think it would be worth making sure that those systems don't also have um I don't want to call it a vulnerability, but don't have access points that are unintended and that we're only learning about like after the fact.

I think it might make sense wherever there is sensitive data that isn't being housed on and this is again something I do in in my day job a lot as an attorney that focuses on cybersecurity.

Uh you know, any time you have any data that isn't being stored at a server that you can touch, it makes sense to make sure that you go through those terms and conditions and go through those things to make sure that um we're 100 percent clear on access.

Yeah, I could tell you in the conversations that I've had that we are hyper aware of those situations and that we want to protect information and you know, and I'll just it follows along with uh and along those conversations we talked about not sharing, you know, specifically that we don't we'll not only just for privacy reasons, but also we bring in the the Federal immigration enforcement that there's that it's it's something that we talked about directly, that it cannot uh go in that direction ever with the information that we have.

Thank you so much.

And uh I'd like to close by also echoing what you and uh Commissioner Lyas said about the SFPD behavioral science unit, it's an it's something that we can definitely be very proud of.

It's grown a lot in the last number of years in terms of access and breadth.

I know this commission has passed a number of DGOs expanding access to the behavioral science units, uh including uh you know to a wider variety of incidents and personnel.

Uh it's they really do tremendous work.

I think it's a great mix of professional mental health practitioners, but also peers.

Uh and I think it would be uh so I I definitely want to echo the applause, and maybe at some point for officer recognition, we can recognize uh some elements of the behavioral science unit because it is uh doing tremendous work to ensure the um our officers are getting the support they need, which ultimately contributes to them being better officers, reduces burnout at a time when staffing is very short.

So I do want to add that that's yeah.

Thank you for that, because my description of them actually didn't do them justice.

And I saw them at work with this tragic incident, and they really just were outstanding.

And uh they put a lot of heart and effort into making sure that people were getting the support that they needed.

So thank you.

Yeah, outstanding is is definitely accurate.

That's all for me.

Commissioner Yee.

Thank you very much, sir uh President uh Clay.

Uh first of all, uh I want to thank um I guess the command staff and officers were continuing to driving down uh crime here in the city down to 25 percent.

So congratulations to you all.

But we can still have well work to do.

On regards to this block system, um remind me reminds me back in I guess maybe 15 years ago when the city ran into this similar situation where their data was compromised as well.

You know, only one guy held the key to that.

Probably Kevin uh Benodicto uh knows about that.

My question is is where uh data is stored?

Uh locally or up in the cloud.

Um then if you have your administrator as a key holder, is there another um access to that just in case it does get lost or that person's uh does not release that uh data to or the access key.

So uh just looking for backup.

Where do we have uh you know backups uh in a cloud as well as locally?

And as you said, yeah, firewalls, and how do you protect that firewall?

Because we're down in the 21st century where uh hackers are throughout the the whole world.

They want access to your our data here in the city because it's valuable to others.

Seeing that is happening, uh what are the steps that are going forward to how to protect it to ensure public safety for all.

Uh so uh so it I think the first question requires a technical answer, which I'm not um qualified to give you.

But uh I I think I can get you the answer.

Because it's either in a cloud or it's in a server somewhere.

Uh it is not, to my knowledge uh anything that we house as the department.

So I'll find out exactly how that system works.

And I'll get I'll provide you the answer to that.

Thank you for yeah.

And then we and I'm just as concerned as you are about how that mechanism is toggled on or off.

So we've been assured that state law requires that we don't share out of state and federally that we wouldn't even need a switch in San Francisco because it wouldn't be one that we would ever turn on.

So I think as we drill down to how it happened and what control we have over it, we will build in some assurance that either it can't be accidentally turned on and all or off, or that it's just disabled altogether because it's not a feature that we would need in San Francisco.

Or in California.

So that would be my answer to part two.

Thank you very much, Chief.

I just don't want you to expose all the procedures, so somebody listening to this, our commission meetings understands and have additional information into our system.

So this I guess to say uh how would you say it um keep us uh the best firewall we can and make it not a firewall is an iron wall or we'll probably have to figure out uh one of the IT guys, the top IT guys uh coming in here to the police department to help us.

Thank you very much, Chief.

Understood, thank you, Commissioner.

Thank you, Chief.

Sergeant.

If any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding light item three, the Chief's report, please approach the podium.

And there is no public comment.

I need to bring my stuff, but um I'd like to use the overhead concerning my son Arboria Bacasa, who was murdered August 14, 2006.

Um bringing awareness to his healing.

Um I want to show this because I want SFGov television to see and who is ever watching to know that I am still fighting for my child, that I am seeking justice for my child.

I bring these names with me all the time.

And I'd like everybody to pay attention, please.

Um to what I'm saying.

Get off your phones and please.

Um here are the names of the perpetrators who murdered my child.

And as I was talking about the legislation that people can come forth and maybe know who these names of these people are.

I bring these pictures with me to bring awareness to all the unsolved homicides that are happening.

That's happening here in our city.

I know some of you may not understand what I'm saying, and I know if you have children, you understand what I'm saying.

So look at these faces that I bring with me every year.

This is what they left me.

A lifeless body.

This is also what they left me.

My son.

No mother wants to see this.

I have to deal with this all the time.

So, yes, I come here all the time to bring awareness to this.

And I know you're probably tired of me showing these pictures, but I'm not tired.

Thank you.

Line item four.

DPA director's report, discussion.

Report on recent DP activities and announcement.

Thank you, Director Wu.

Thank you.

Thanks, Commissioner President Clay, Vice President Benedict, Commissioners, Chief Yep.

Um, I'm here for Director Paul Henderson.

Um we've provided our weekly activities report and has statistics.

I'd just like to make some comments about that.

Um the case trends continue to increase, and so we have seen a 27 percent increase in cases from last year to this year.

140 more cases year to date from last year to this year increase, um, which of course means an overall heavier caseload for what are fewer investigators.

And so we are doing our best to keep keep the 3304 dates in in our sites to make sure that we don't have any statutes that are we are out of compliance.

And I'm happy to say that we haven't had any.

Today we have 84 cases with the department and only two with the commission.

And the department is working us very hard and working their command staff, their new command staff very hard to be able to have a lot of chiefs hearings to be able to clear that backlog.

So Chief, thank you.

Thank you to your command staff as well.

I know that it's a lot of work.

The officer involved shooting that occurred this week.

Um I want to thank the department again.

We got very timely notice.

In fact, we were notified through your IA division before we even got the evergreen notification, and we were on scene within an hour.

Um and so we really appreciate that, and we appreciate the access that we had to the scene.

Um so thank you, Chief, and thanks Commander Hart and Lieutenant Springer and Captain Harvey for their cooperation and recognizing that all of us being uh together on the same page is is a good thing, and making sure that we all have the same information at the same time.

Um I want to give you an update also on our phone message system.

Um I want to thank our investigator Terry Torgenton who brought this to our attention.

We were not in compliance with the language access of the of the city, and now we are.

We have seven uh different languages in our message machines, um, and so we are able to provide that language access throughout and we're gonna continue as soon as we can develop other languages, we'll continue to do um to increase our capacity in our phone message system.

Um I give you more information on our digital accessibility and inclusion standard, although I don't actually know that much about it.

We have been given a grant to digitize a number of our files, over 500 files that are currently in hard copy in storage, and so we want to digitize all of that, and we want to ensure that that digitization follows the requirements of the accessibility and inclusion standard.

And so we're working very hard with the digital services to make sure that they have this uh it's a four category perceiverable, operable, understandable, and robust.

We're trying to make sure that all of our files have that type of accessibility.

Um then uh uh today.

Oh, I'm I wanted to also include also, I'm sorry, that our investigators that went out to the officer involved shooting and will handle our investigations uh were senior investigator Candice Carpenter and Jeanetta Minix, um, who will handle all of our investigations when it's appropriate and the time is appropriate.

Um our senior investigator here tonight is Brent Begin, and I'm sure I pronounced his name incorrectly, and I apologize, but I only know him as Brent.

Um, if anyone has any questions here, please reach out to um to Brent for deep for on any issues involving DPA.

Um the last thing I wanted to to reach out and make some clarification.

At last week's commission Director Henderson gave some information about the budget.

And I hope that I can clarify that.

And he was able to accomplish that.

But that doesn't mean that during the budget season, we did not lose positions.

We did lose positions.

They included an investigator position, a clerk position, a senior investigator position, and an attorney position.

Those were the positions initially identified by the mayor's office.

During the labor negotiations, the clerk's positions was reinstated.

And so we were down to three positions.

The investigator position had recently been vacated by someone who changed positions, left the job, and the mayor's office agreed that we would not fill that position, but we didn't have a body sitting in that position.

And so the last two positions were a senior investigator position and an attorney position.

And we did have bodies in both of those positions.

And Director Henderson's focus was really ensuring that those two bodies, because we did lose those two positions, were still that we still had they still had the same salary and the same fringe within the department.

And honestly, I believe it's through Director Henderson's relationships and leverage, he was able to get those positions, different positions, with the same salary and the same fringe from the mayor's office to keep the bodies in the department.

And so when he said last week that we didn't lose anybody, that technically is accurate.

No person had to leave DPA because of the layoff from the mayor's office.

What the union individual said is also accurate.

We actually lost positions.

But we were able to create temporary positions and fund them through existing resources to ensure that each individual could stay within the department and not have, sorry for the double negative, not have a job within DPA if they wanted to.

So I hope that that clarifies things a little bit.

Just that the mayor's office agreed and allowed us to keep the bodies using existing resources.

But the positions themselves were eliminated.

So these individuals were retitled.

They have the same title in the position.

Their position numbers, whatever the number is associated with that particular 8126 position, that was eliminated.

A different position was created for that individual.

A different number?

A diff well he's uh it would still be considered an 8126 position as a senior investigator, the same um uh salary and fringe, um, but it's a temporary position.

Um, and we will work to make sure that that position becomes permanent.

Commissioner Liz.

Yeah, I was like, that's some funny math.

If it's if it's you move it and it's the same, but so it's it's temporary and you're looking to fund future site in future cycles, right?

That's that's correct, and it's um being funded through existing resources.

The mayor's office didn't give us any more money to to fund that position.

So it's theoretically you could have this issue again next year once those resources run out for funding those positions temporarily, right?

I think that we are good for a while.

Um, and I believe that the temporary position is at least three years.

Oh, that's great.

So I think you know, within that time period, we're we will work hard to to create that to be a permanent position.

That's good.

Um I wanted to focus on some of the numbers you threw out at the beginning.

You said there's a 27 increase percent increase from last year in the number of cases filed with DPA.

Yes.

Do you know why that is?

I don't know why.

I don't know why.

There's 140 more complaints than we had this time last year.

So I I don't know why that is.

I could inquire with our investigators what they're seeing and have uh Director Henderson report back to you next week.

I think it would be good to identify the trends that you're seeing as to the why the increase, perhaps I know that Director Henderson you does a thorough job of outlining uh and providing information on cases, so like location where these are coming from in terms of district and what the allegations are.

I know that you report on sort of trends in terms of what the highest types of allegations are.

So I think that would be uh informative.

And then you indicated that there were um there was an increase in in the caseload amongst your investigators, and I was curious as to what the current caseload is amongst investigators and how many investigators you had.

Um I can't give you the exact number.

I just know that it's a 19 percent increase in their caseload.

Um I might ask for uh call out for a friend.

How many uh investigators that we currently have?

I'm sorry?

11.

That includes the seniors as well?

No.

Uh and five seniors.

So about sixteen total?

Total.

Okay.

I think it would be uh uh helpful for us to know what the case load is.

If there's a nineteen percent increase, that's pretty substantial.

It is.

But if we're talking four cases to six, then if we're talking 20 20 cases to 25 or 30 to 35, I think that that puts a lot of context on the I'll get that number and have the director report back.

Thank you.

If any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item four, DPA directors report, please approach the podium.

There's no public comment.

Can we take line item six out of order and we do that now?

Yeah, line item six.

Search and selection process for the chief of police update from Ralph Anderson and Associates discussion and possible action.

Good evening, and thank you, President Clay, and good evening uh commissioners.

Uh my name is Daniel Hahn.

I'm with Ralph Anderson and Associates, the firm that you hired to do the recruitment for your next police chief.

Um I just want tonight to give you a high-level overview of where we're at with the whole process of um finding your next police chief.

So I wanted to just start with um, as you know, the um outreach and the application period for potential applicants closed this Monday, uh September 8th.

So everybody that uh was intending to apply would have had to apply by midnight on Monday.

And through those applications that we are currently reviewing and doing some interviews, there are 34 people that have applied.

Um, and that includes people with experience in and around the Bay Area and throughout our entire country and beyond, actually.

Um so uh you will be uh receiving those applicants and being able to review them later this month.

Um uh want to cover a few other things like we have been we are in the process, we're almost completed with hosting um what originally started out as five, then you took to eight, and now it stands at nine community meetings throughout San Francisco that we are facilitating.

But I'd also be remiss if I didn't uh let folks know that several of you have hosted other additional events where people around San Francisco are able to give their input.

Um we have had um some very robust uh meetings with a lot of uh opinions.

And I'd like to also add that every single one of the commissioners has either attended meeting or meetings or will attend the future meetings, every single commissioner.

So that is uh something that probably needs to be said.

Um we have had uh several meetings that has required translators, and there have been community members that have taken full advantage of those translators in order to have their opinions heard too.

I'd also like to thank several um community groups that have assisted or pushed community members to come to these meetings, or even hosted um community meetings for um your community to have their voices heard.

Groups like Stop Crime San Francisco, numerous merchants' associations and groups, several neighborhood associations and councils, uh the Asian Pacific American uh community center, uh your libraries have hosted the vast majority of these meetings.

And the participants themselves your community members that showed up at these communities have not been shy about what they would like to see and I know all of you on the Commission have heard those community members.

So that's great.

We want as much information as we can.

We've even had some of your com of you commissioners that have taken hard copies of the surveys and brought them back filled out.

So there's many ways that the community can weigh in and I'd like to end on that.

So we are currently accepting people to go online and fill out surveys.

We have extended that deadline it was September 15th.

It is now extended to September 24th.

Part of that is we've added another language Arabic to that survey so now there's several languages people can fill those surveys out.

Also if people want to just email their thoughts just kind of free form in an email they can send that to input dash pc at Ralphanderson dot com.

And all this information is on the Commission's website along with the links where people can fill out the surveys in different languages.

And I'll close on this we have two more community meetings left this week.

One is tomorrow at 530 at the Bayview library and the last one is Friday at 6 o'clock at Mission High School.

So love to have the same robust conversations and those in those community meetings also.

And with that I'd be happy to answer any questions you have.

Well Chief I've been to five of these and you have done a great job and the community has really appreciated how you have handled these sessions and how you've gone about ask the questions how you've prompt people to talk more and that's going to be that data we were talking data earlier today all that information you are getting in those mics that you're going to take a look at synthesize provide us as sort of a guide as what the community would like to see as our next police chief how they would like to hear policing but it's been a really really robust all these meetings that we've gone to these and we want to thank you guys for putting it together and doing a great job you did.

And the and the translators have been just in incredible to have all of them there and have access for people and last night Commissioner Tech yeah I went we're out in Visitation Valley where she put that together impromptu and the community leaders came out and we had a huge I mean group of probably 50 people and other people who ran community groups and they were there volunteering their time and AC had our building we had the mics we had it set up just like you you guys did.

So you gave us an example so we want to thank you guys for continue to serve us and we look forward to you putting together those packages and we can get ready to we'll get the review and and start this process.

So thank you very much.

Yes thank you and and your community members have not been shy as you've seen they have shared their opinion and final note on that is that the commissioners will receive all the information that has been collected at those community meetings and we've repeated that at each community meeting so folks know it's not just going into some random closet somewhere.

Thank you.

Commissioner Lyas do you know when we'll receive all that I know the surveys are going to close on the 24th do you know about what the turnaround time will be for us to get all of that information because I think they want to start scheduling interviews mid-October.

Yes.

So it would definitely be before then we have to work with DHR to get the notes through the software but you will all be receiving the binders at the end of this month and hopefully we can get you those that those community input around that time too so you can use that obviously use that in your consideration.

And you said that there were 34 people that had applied and I I was trying to write but I missed how many did you say were local or did you indicate there are several that are both from in and around the Bay Area and throughout the country.

So I don't have the exact numbers yet but um there's several.

Okay.

And you said you were doing interviews?

Yeah we we talked to some of the uh folks that apply that um uh before we go send them to you yes can you explain to the I think it would be good to give the public some information on what that process entails or what what that vetting is what we do?

Yeah.

Yeah we just try to uh so when we meet with you later uh actually in October uh it's really for us our purpose is to clarify their resume make sure that we understand everything that's on your res on their resume so if you have a question about their resume we'll we're able to answer that.

So when you say you do interviews do you interview them after they've already applied or while they submit their application no it's after they have applied.

And then you contact them and say hey what is this on your resume to explain more and then you collect that information and then provide it to the commission upon request.

Yes.

Will that be included in the binders or is that just for that will be in our meeting with all of you.

Okay.

Yes.

All right.

No further questions.

Thank you Chief.

Sergeant any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item six please approach the podium yes good evening again.

I am glad that this survey is going around about finding a new police chief I just pray that the police chief that we get will be attentive like Chief Scott was we mothers and other uh community members need someone like that.

I miss him so I'm just hoping that when we too bad uh Paul Yep can't be the police chief and I know he doesn't want to but you know I know I know you so I can gravitate to you I'm concerned about this new police chief and uh that he would be attentive to to all of us and and I know as I come here I'm gonna be seeing him and that um that uh I can get to know this person whoever it is I don't know if it's a woman or a man but um I'm just praying that we get one get someone that really understands the community and that understands the trauma that's going on in our community and that he be at he or she be attentive.

And I also wanted to bring up too sometimes when I'm up here and I and it's not going against anyone you know uh Ms.

Elias please pay attention I know you're writing and everything but when people are talking I think that you should pay attention to when we're talking and I know your head is down and I know you hear me but please the community needs you to pay attention and I would prefer you I I pay attention to you so please pay attention to us.

Thank you.

There is no further public comment.

Line item five commission reports discussion impossible action.

Commission President's report commissioners reports and commission announcements and schedule of items can identified for consideration at a future commission meeting so my report is very brief I last night um the night before Monday and Tuesday I attended a meetings last week yesterday's meeting uh Commissioner Techy put together uh with the community out and visit Valley um the on we had the the tenderline on Monday uh last week Commissioner put together the group out of the Sunset and some of the Richmond people at a meeting that was sponsored by us we added to it down at the park at the Golden Gate Park about 50 people showed up for that uh the week before with Commissioner Tech he went to I went to a couple more meetings and and Commissioner Benedicto was with me.

So we've been very busy working on this and I'm synergizing making sure Ralph Anderson is getting us up to date and they're doing their job so we can get ready to go into the next level of doing this.

I am very happy that everybody has been able to attend a meeting and we appreciate the community really has appreciate their comments back to us being at those meetings how some of them said they have never had a commissioner or anyone come out to talk to them and they really appreciated us doing that.

In fact I mean Commissioner Yee last night Commissioner Czechy the the committees there especially the committees with with all the came that Commissioner's a lot of the the the political groups were saying why haven't we gotten back to you know our DGOs like last week I apparently butchered it why haven't we come back into the community and had commission meetings like they used to do we like to see you.

And so one of the things once we finish this process we're gonna have to think about how we operate for the community because we are here for the community not for ourselves not coming in this building but we will do what we need to do but they will really appreciate it.

They thanked us so much the the other night last night and in the other nights I've been so we'll we'll we'll we'll do what we need to do as we go forward.

But thank you all for participating and working hard doing what you do and uh and that's my report and we have tomorrow night um we will have the uh graduation class of 285 so sorry thank you so much uh President Clay um for my report yeah it's been an eventful couple of weeks along with number of commissioners we attended the 77th annual police and fire mask presided over by the Archbishop attend Cecilia's and that was I think a great way to um honor uh our first responders especially those that were lost um there have been a number of the community listening sessions as you've heard from fellow commissioners and from Ralph Anderson associates um and as a reminder there are still two more like they announced one at the Bayview tomorrow and one at Mission High School.

Cecilia's, and that was I think a great way to um honor uh our first responders, especially those that were lost.

Um there have been a number of the community listening sessions, as you've heard from fellow commissioners and from Ralph Anderson associates.

Um as a reminder, there are still two more.

Like they announced one at the Bayview tomorrow and one at Mission High School.

Uh I look forward to being at the 285 Academy graduation tomorrow with uh President Clay.

Um in addition to uh as I think all commissioners have really um gone the extra mile to make sure that there have been both the official ones as well as the additional uh listening sessions.

I know there was one in Viz Valley.

I've done some with a number of the the community groups in uh in San Francisco, including the Connected SF Institute and Blueprint SF and the Coalition for Community Safety and Justice, I'll be meeting with in a few weeks.

Uh separate from the Chief Search, as members of the public are aware.

Our the commission is in the final stages of finalizing the new boundary analysis for SFPD.

So I've been engaged in a number of community meetings for that process, uh working with program manager uh Jason Cunningham and uh Commander Jack Hart uh as we finalize that process.

Uh along we heard from members of the community uh before we recess in July, uh including from representatives from Supervisor Danny Sauter's office as well as Bilal Mahmood's office supporting a revised map that was published by the commission in July.

Uh tomorrow I'm meeting with folks from um South Beach Neighborhood Association along with representative from Supervisor Matt Dorsey's office to discuss the maps as well.

Um and while we're coming at the end, we're still taking feedback.

So if anyone, uh I've said this uh at many commission meetings.

If anyone uh would like to uh speak with myself um or any of the commissioners about uh the boundary analysis project, happy to meet um on that as well.

Um it can be virtual, it can be by Zoom.

I've I've been all over the city and on Zoom to make sure that we're being as accessible as possible in this process.

Um just a couple other things.

Uh Ms.

Brown, I I spoke to Commissioner Scott uh just before this meeting, and uh the two of us are um delighted to work with you and and will be in touch uh to figure out ways um because I I think it's right.

I think it's as you noted and as Chief Interim Chief Yap noted, the new ordinance is on the books, it's now the law.

Uh departments updating their procedures, but the next step is making sure members of the public know that the community uh that TIPSERS, the population of TIPSERS has expanded and the requirements have been changed.

So uh Commissioner Scott and I will be in touch.

I know uh there's been a lot of meetings with the Chief Search.

I think between us we've all been to 10 or 20 of them over the course of the last month, but um that's not to say that uh we we haven't forgotten about you, I promise, and we will definitely be we'll definitely be in touch.

Um the last thing I'll note is Commissioner uh is uh President Clay mentioned his report that a lot of members of the community liked having access to to the commission of this.

Um I sometimes have the interesting role despite being one of the younger commissioners of being having been around the commission maybe longer than most commissioners, and I will say that uh um under President Susie Loftas, I think four or five times a year, and I our our commission staff can confirm she would try to do at least one meeting in the uh do our regular Wednesday meeting, not here.

And I know it once it was at City College, I know once it was like at the Bayview Opera House, uh just ways, and there was a regularly scheduled Wednesday meeting, but it was noticed for new location.

And maybe once the chaos of the uh the the pressure of the chief searches behind us, it's something that we can discuss as a commissioner bringing that bringing that tradition back.

You forgot it was at SICA.

That's right.

Uh and that concludes my report.

Commissioner Techie.

Thanks, President Clay.

Um I want to take this opportunity to thank all the community members, especially from Tenroin who came out and it was um for the community meeting for the Chief Search.

And it was a true reflection of the Tenrone community because we had community members from various um immigrant backgrounds and um different point of view, but it was really very incredible because um we I always felt that our community has been marginalized, and so I'm I was very happy and thanks to Commissioner Wilson and you to be there.

Um the other thing I wanted to highlight, and it was incredible, I thought, was um uh when we got the opportunity to do yesterday, actually in the evening when we went to um um Visitation Valley, and I basically thanks to Rex, Calvin, and Anna from Asian Pacific American Community Center, who basically on a drop of a hat actually organized community meeting, and they basically um not only organized community meeting, but also turned out all their participants and folks who uh come to the community center uh and also organized um uh interpreters and everybody they could organize.

I thought was um when we got the opportunity to do yesterday, actually in the evening when we went to um Visitation Valley, and I basically thanks to Rex, Calvin, and Anna from Asian Pacific American Community Center, who basically on a drop of a hat actually organized community meeting and they basically um not only organized community meeting but also turned out all their participants and folks who uh come to the community center uh and also organized um uh interpreters and everybody they could organize and also I would like to thank Simone Community Development Center staff who showed up also to participate and thanks President Clay for facilitating the meeting um with um with other with me and also I wanted to thank uh a community member Enrique who uh volunteered to take notes because we didn't have any other support and it have so and Senator Chief on already.

I wanted to say in all these community meetings, it was very, very clear that community members really want a deep relationship with with SFPD and is looking for um uh looking for um officers not to just drive by their community.

We know that we have less officers now, but we're hoping that they would get to know their community.

They feel like that would help them.

Uh that would you know that that is one of the ways of basically connecting rather than just driving by and um so and also in Visitation Valley, of course, um we it was very heartbreaking because it was a lot of seniors who were there.

Um, and they were really almost almost all of them who were there were victims of crime and they felt like they were totally unheard because one of their stations is very far away, and so and they have to rely on public transit to get there.

And so I I it was really touching to hear them and they they were very appreciative of having commissioners there because they they also indicated that they've never met commissioners before and they were appreciative of the center, uh Rex and uh Calvin to organize this because they really want to see the new chief go there often, not just the chief, but also the command staff and to be there to to be present in the community and also I mean I can't emphasize enough the community policing aspect of it was very clear because it is coming from the community.

They feel like they will feel a lot more safer than just um you know, the crime trends going down is not making you safe, but you know, it is uh the seeing an officer interacting with them, them getting to know the community seems to be the right way to go.

Thank you.

Commissioner Yi.

Uh thank you very much there uh President Clay.

Um just want to echo all the commissioners that um have attended uh these uh community meetings in search for a new chief.

Uh just like you said that uh techie.

Uh the community wants the chief to be engaged out there in public.

Um as uh commissioner uh his president vice president um was at the at these meetings.

The communities they just tell you like it is, is it straight up?

They want the chief to do all these things and um not uh a year from now, first thing, first time they step in.

They want them out in their community.

So whoever's the chief, he got his job.

Um he got his work all cut out.

So uh I thank all the community uh leaders that especially the um uh stop crime SF President Um Frank No and Anna Kearney for hosting that event on 9-4.

Uh it was sort of like um the thought of getting the West Side active in this, and they sure uh they stepped up to it.

So thank thank that group.

And also in the Chinatown, um I know I was out there late because we had the San Francisco, I mean Chinatown car show that Sunday, and everything was crazy.

So uh they put it together, they got about 20 something people out there.

They were merchants.

They were affected by crimes.

You know, there was probably I was looking in the in the audience, they're probably half of them that face crime.

You know, some of them were very violent crimes too that happened in Chinatown.

Uh Henry Chan's a bakery.

I don't want to say but he in his bakery they had that incident.

So they're stakeholders and they uh spoke from the heart.

So thank them very much.

Also attend the Sunday seventh um uh Memorial Mass of the police fire sheriff and then Park Rangers.

Uh I want to thank um, I guess the chief for uh reminding us and sending us the card.

Uh also on there was an active member.

Yeah, it was uh member uh Joan Mc Marquez Plan.

Uh so I like to uh uh adjourn in his name.

Thank you very much.

Commissioner Scott.

Thank you, President Clay.

Um I just want to say um it is very um I'm very proud to be on um this commission and to see the work that we've done in this short period of time of my being on here um with the community events with us helping to find a uh police chief and for uh all of the crime that is going down in our community, particularly the homicide um and the and the the gun violence um and uh as we continue to work together.

I'm looking forward to uh being out in Bayview tomorrow um with our baby residents and encouraging all of you out there in Bayview, please show up with your questions and and um your wonderful smiles and um beautiful faces as we work together and making sure that we find the right police chief, you know.

Um and Ms.

Paulette, you don't have to worry about it.

You will be somebody that definitely cares um and and understands what we go through in our community.

Um but I just want to commend this commission um as a whole um for the work that we've done and continue to do, and I'm looking forward to the upcoming events that we're having, the meeting next month with the NWCP.

Um, and also wanted to um invite all of you on September 25th, which is the Congressional National Day of Remembrance for Murdered Victims, all murdered victims.

And so we honor the victims here in San Francisco, but also the whole nation.

We do it every year on the steps of City Hall.

It will be um on the steps of City Hall on September 25th here from 2 to 4 p.m.

So please mark your calendars and invite anyone you know that has been impacted by um any type of violence or lost a loved one to uh homicide, suicide, you know, or human trafficking any any it doesn't matter how they lost a loved one, but we are one we that's today we honor all murder victims.

So hope that you can attend and those of you who um are out there, we welcome you to come and be support and get the support that you need and the services that you need as well.

So looking forward to tomorrow and baby and looking forward to our continuing win effort um under your leadership, and um I know we will get a good chief because that's the kind of city we are, you know, working together.

Um of us together, and um that's why our crime rate is going down, and the community plays a big role in that, and I just want to thank the community because the community has really been active and involved in every aspect of of everything that we're doing and helping us to keep the crime down as well.

So we will get that new police chief and and um you all have a say in it and an input in it, and we welcome that because this is about all of us and none of us at the end of the day.

So thank you.

Thank you, Ms.

Guy.

I I want to end with this note.

Commissioner Techie, I want to say that yesterday uh in that uh community meeting, that was the we had some of the youngest populous group there in support of being part of this process.

They were com they were leaders in different community organizations throughout Viz Valley, and they they were engaged about what they were looking for.

They were very and they were very close in terms of what other people in other areas that we've been in districts, but they were young and they were talking about it, how it impacts them, how it impacts their programs, how impacts the seniors and elders, and that was the youngest group that we've had, and I think we have to say they were maybe 10 people who have that young age, and I'm I'm I'm dating myself, but they were youngsters running programs, professionals.

We had the young gentleman who's the president of the uh director of the uh African American Opera.

Uh he was there with a group of people.

They were all engaged, and it was beautiful to see that.

It was really see them engaged and wanting to be a part of this.

And they actually said thanks, thank you for coming out.

Thank you for talking to us about this.

So it was wonderful to see that.

So all right.

Sergeant.

If any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item five, please approach the podium.

Yes, um, I'm glad to hear that um these uh community meetings are going on.

I was listening, you know.

I remember when I used to when they used to have the police commission in different areas, different communities.

I was always there, and I may have been s saying the same things, and like everyone said, there's a lot of uh trauma going on in our city, and people are losing their lives.

And these meetings definitely definitely need to be in different communities.

Not a lot of people don't want to come to the police commission.

A lot of people don't want to come here.

You know, and but if you have it in their neighborhood, they can leave their houses and come and sit and have a cup of coffee and tell their concerns.

So this needs to happen again, because it definitely stopped, and maybe due to COVID, it happened.

But it needs to happen again.

And this new police chief needs to be in every community.

You know, I live in District 5.

I would love to see him come to our community also, as well as I travel to other communities.

I plan on being uh at the meeting tomorrow in the Bayview.

Um also thank you.

Uh I also plan on being on City Hall stairs on the 25th to bring awareness to the unsolved homicides in our families that we're losing.

You know, so um I am glad that to hear to hear this is happening, and I hope everybody's um you know just make sure that we get the right police chief.

Um that he comes to each community, each community.

And I'm ready for that to start again.

Thank you.

That is the end of public comment.

Line item seven, discussion and possible action to approve revised Department General Order 3.02, terms and definitions for the Department to use and meeting and conferring with the affected bargaining units as required by law.

Discussion and possible action.

This one's just paper.

All right.

There is uh fellow commissioners, there's no presenter on this.

This is a uh terms definitions DGO.

This was on our annual review list, Commission staff distributed uh the cheat sheets.

Which remain my favorite new thing.

Um this was last updated in 1994.

Um I was just talking in terms of yeah, you know, I've been on a continuous quest to remove all of our 1990s era DGOs with no disrespect to the 1990s.

And so I will uh if there are no questions, I know there's no presenter on this one, I'll move to approved revised Department General Order 3.02 for use in meeting and conferring with the effective bargaining units pursuant to our labor relations resolution.

Oh second.

If any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item seven, please approach the podium.

There is no public comment.

On the motion, Commissioner Techie, how do you vote?

Yes.

Mr.

Techie is yes, Commissioner Scott?

Yes.

Commissioner Scott is yes, Commissioner Yee?

Yes.

Commissioner Yee is yes, Commissioner Lyas?

Yes.

Commissioner Lyas is yes, Vice President Benedict?

Yes.

Vice President Benedict was yes, and President Clay.

Yes.

President Clay is yes, you have six yeses.

Line item eight, discussion and possible action to approve, revised Department General Order 6.13 hate crimes for the Department to use and meeting and conferring with the affected bargaining units as required by law.

Discussion and possible action.

Good evening.

Uh President Clay, good evening.

Um police commission and chief, yep.

I am here to present on DGO 6.13, which is a hate crime uh general order.

Uh I am Lieutenant Bassiobot.

I am the officer in charge of the special investigations unit.

Uh one of the responsibilities that my unit has is investigating um hate crimes when they occur in the city and county of San Francisco.

Um this uh DGO, uh the subject matter expert for this is Sergeant Jamie Hune.

He is my sergeant who is my lead investigator for uh hate crimes.

He's not able to be here, he was injured in uh the line of duty.

So uh but I have conferred with him today um and I'm going to give you some uh some notes and comments.

I've also consulted with uh Aja Steeves from our prof our policy development division, and uh she gave me some notes as well.

Um so this uh DGO was last updated in 1996.

So uh we're gonna help uh Commissioner Benedicto get rid of the 90s era DGOs.

Um of the following highlights and major changes uh and updates to this hate crime are the title has been changed from prejudice-based incidents to the clearer hate crimes.

So now it will be DGO 6.13 hate crimes instead of prejudice-based incidents, which is a little.

Um so we've added the definition section.

Um also the policy section was amended to comply with um penal code 422.87, which was updated in 2024.

So this new policy will bring us updated to the to the 2024s.

Procedures have been delineated for response to criminal and non-criminal hate incidents.

And uh this is something I'm happy about.

Um of the things that happens sometimes is an an incident will happen, and it can be a hate incident and not necessarily rise to the level and threshold of a hate crime.

And so sometimes our victims are left kind of searching, and we're not able to prosecute anyone for it because it might be a first amendment issue.

There's someone's yelling hate speech, which unfortunately is protected by the First Amendment.

But what we are able to do now with the addition of this is engage the community engagement division and the community liaison unit and offer these people offer victims uh who are victims of hate speech and maybe not necessarily hate crimes, an avenue on someone to talk to and for for them to access services.

So I'm really happy about that.

Um relied they relied heavily, the uh policy development division on the California Post Hate Crimes Model Policy Manual.

And so that's from the Commission on Peace Officer Standards and Training.

They have a manual that guides agencies on how to develop these policies so that they do comply with state law, and that was relied on heavily.

Um so as a result, um, this hate crimes uh uh policy.

There's a web page now that uh the special investigations has that uh we can refer people to so that they can have access and gain access to the uh state uh resources and the community liaison unit.

Um the overall goal was to update uh the procedure so the department is in compliance with the updated penal codes, but also provide a tool to the public to understand how hate crimes is defined and how the department is guided to respond.

Um I think this policy succeeds in doing that, and I'm happy to answer any questions that you might have.

So this mirrors the updated version of the statute itself.

Correct.

My my only question, I know this has come up in DGOs before.

On page five of the red line under special investigation division duties, where it's contact the California Department of Justice Hate Crime Rapid Response Unit.

I know sometimes we've had DGOs that fall out of date because some other agency or some other organization will then like restructure and change their name.

I wonder if it makes sense to make that more generic or include something like or the equivalent something like that.

I like I I know this came up where sometimes we will reference a specific arm of another agency and then it gets renamed, and now the DGO references something that no longer exists.

Um and um Director Steve's specifically addressed that, and she said that's why um we have the link on the on the on the uh that's attached to the GO, and so that the link can be updated, and we don't write in uh an order or a policy or uh or uh uh a law that is subject to be changed.

Um if the policy changes or the law changes, we can update the link to the website and change it that way.

So the policy stays sound.

It would still I mean if if they change the name, it would still be.

I mean, I guess it makes sense to have the link be updated.

It would still just be slightly out of sync with the text of the DGO as written if they were.

Okay, I can bring and I can definitely bring that back to her.

Okay.

I I guess if you wanted to address that, I think I would just propose an amendment for that instead of saying.

Yeah, what if we just said con well?

How do we react if we said contact the relevant California Department of Justice unit, and then we can still say like currently the California Department of Justice Hate Crimes Rapid Response Unit and still have the link.

And so that way, if that second part becomes out of date, there's generic language to fall back on.

Does that create any issue when you guys did you have this discussion in when you were discussing the changing of this?

Not specifically that, no.

You have any objection?

Do you think there would be an impact in terms of understanding what this reference would be to?

It sounds sound to me, um, but I would I would definitely defer to the policy development division on any changes to the to the documents.

Would you rather it go back then and maybe don't vote on that language tonight?

I think that would be best, unfortunately.

And that makes the most sense because especially each California Attorney General can restructure their department as they see fit.

Okay.

Okay.

Thank you.

Thank you.

That makes sense.

Yeah.

Entities don't exist anymore.

No, that makes sense.

Good job.

Thank you.

Can we go?

If any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item eight, please approach the podium.

There's no public comment.

Line item nine, discussion and possible action to approve revised department general order eight point one two in custody deaths for the department to use in meeting and conferring with the affected bargaining units as required by law.

Discussion and possible action.

Good evening, Commissioners.

I'm Commander Jack Hart from the San Francisco Police Department's risk management office.

Good evening, President Clay.

Chief Yep and Acting Executive Director Wu.

I'm here to talk about General Order 8.12.

The three subject matter experts for the police department were promoted and transferred out, so I'm filling in tonight.

But I have a about five points that I can cover related to major changes and highlights of what we're asking for, and we ask that you consider sending it to meet and confer, which would be the next step.

The DJO was last updated in 2009.

And here are five of the updates that we have that we'd like to highlight.

First, we include definitions for administrative criminal and parallel criminal investigations.

We updated the policy statement to acknowledge the role of the San Francisco District Attorney's Office has in the criminal investigation and confirm the police department's role in the administrative and relevant parallel investigations.

Those definitions of those terms are all there right at the very top of the order.

We clarified the investigative procedures and on-scene management to align with the MOU with the San Francisco District Attorney's Office.

We clarified the return to duty process, so officers are neither unnecessarily being delayed from returning returning to duty or rushed back to duty.

And finally, we amended the review panel to align with the DGO 3.10, which is the Sirius Instant Review Board, uh, which was updated in June of this year.

So overall, the goal was to clarify procedures and to align with the memorandum of understanding with the San Francisco District Attorney's Office.

Thank you, Commander.

I'll it seems to me when looking at these, a lot of these align with practices we already started doing, you know, with other DGOs and notices uh when it comes to this review.

Um no no go ahead.

My only question was I know that, and this might I either for you or interim chief yap, I know there's uh a lot of this uh internal references to you know different components of the department.

I know there's been some restructuring, and I just want to make sure that this is reflective of the new restructuring that interim chief yap is announced for the department.

Yes, it's still aligned.

Okay, that's all for me.

And later commission.

This is so much cleaner than what you have before.

I mean, so much cleaner.

Yes.

Intelligible.

Yes.

Especially the terms and definitions of what an in-custody death is, which we only could find in a memorandum of understanding.

So thank you, Commissioner Clay.

That's great.

I know this DGO was not a working group DGO, but for anyone who's ever served on a working group with me knows I will award working group members for cutting the most words from DGOs.

And so I'm always happy to see it be streamlined, so glad to see the shorter.

So is there a motion and I'll make a motion to send this DGO to meet and confer pursuant to our labor relations resolution.

Any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item nine, please approach the podium.

There's no public comment.

On the motion, Commissioner Techie, how do you vote?

Yes.

Commissioner Tekke is yes, Commissioner Scott.

Yes.

Commissioner Scott is yes, Commissioner Yee?

Yes.

Commissioner Yee is yes, Commissioner Lyas?

Yes.

Commissioner Lyas is yes, Vice President Benedict?

Yes.

Vice President Benedict is yes, and President Clay.

Yes.

President Clay is yes, you have six yeses.

Line item ten, presentation on SFPD's disciplinary review board, findings and recommendations, second quarter 2025.

Discussion, good evening, Commission.

Uh President Clay, Vice President Benedict of Commissioners.

You're with me.

Uh, and Chief Yep.

Uh, my name is Lieutenant Lisa Springer, and I am the officer in charge of the Internal Affairs Division.

And we are here to present uh quarter two twenty-25 of the disciplinary review board.

And I think everybody knows um.

Good evening, everyone.

Sharon Wu on behalf of the Department of Police Account.

So we held the internal meeting on August 26th of this year.

Um the aggregate trends um that IAD identified.

Um these are the top four.

Uh first one is conduct done becoming.

Um there are 19 allegations uh and 28% of the cases.

Failure to appear at the range, 16 um allegations and 23.88 percent.

Neglective duty general came in at 22.39% and neglect of duty body warrant camera at 8.96%.

The DPA aggregate trends are there on the on the slide.

So we're we may revamp this slide so that it is actually meaningful rather than just numbers and allegations to give uh the trends themselves some actual texture.

There were zero um IED cases this quarter that resulted in a policy failure and zero that resulted in uh training failure.

Uh yeah, and one case that resulted in a training failure.

Um the first one is the policy failure.

Um this was a the swatting incident.

We talked about this a couple of sessions ago.

Um the department has implemented the department notice 25019.

This complaint came in while that before that implementation of the notice.

Um and so this policy failure um occurred, but it was already addressed by the time I can um make the report to you.

And so again, we appreciate the department um using many of the suggestions um the uh DPA had um offered um in creating DN.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Sorry.

You don't need me to repeat that, do you?

Okay, no, no.

We heard you.

Uh the training failure was uh it was a uh slightly more interesting.

Um it involved a search and seizure incident.

Um the officer arrived at a property damage um accident.

The individual that was involved in the tr uh in the accident's vehicle had run into a uh a building.

Um she was being determined treated and determined not to have injury, but the officer was attempting to assist in um exchange of information.

Um that's one of the things that they're supposed to do and required to do.

Um in doing so, he entered her vehicle and went through the glove box to find insurance information.

Um that unfortunately is not one of the exceptions to the warrant requirement.

And um, although the intent of the officer was um to in order to enhance the communication, um, we are suggesting some updated training on Fourth Amendment search and seizure so that only the exceptions to the warrant requirement um are utilized during the course of even um uh ensuring that their duties are are um are done appropriately.

Um we did not find this to be a discipline action because the officer was um very earnest in his attempts uh to comply, um, but his search itself was not lawful.

We considered that a training failure.

Uh the recommendations that we came up with uh were uh exactly what um Ms.

Woo just said, retrain and update fourth amendment training to confirm the definitions of warrantless search and circumstances under which the warrantless search is justified.

Um the Office of Equity and Inclusion did review all of these cases and did not find any um any negative trends towards bias disparities or inequities.

Any um difference in the punishment was uh due to progressive discipline.

So the next on our um agenda will be to uh schedule the Q3 internal um DRB uh and again once again the OEI will review all of the cases in that.

Does anybody have any questions?

So let me just say this is for the whole second quarter.

Is that three months?

Correct?

Yes, yes.

These numbers are incredible.

I mean, you think about that's 90 days, how many contacts you have on a day with these officers with all number of people, and this is what you got.

So I have to applaud the department and what you guys are doing to get in the message out to have this conduct.

I don't know what it was before, but if you could keep it down lower than this, I mean this is really good.

So you know, we keep the information coming so we can analyze it and see which way it's going.

But when I look at it from a general standpoint, globally, these are these are incredible numbers for a big department to have this minimal list in terms of these here before us as it relates to this.

Commissioner Scott.

SF Gov T San Francisco government television.

Is it twenty four or twenty five?

It's the twenty fifth, September.

I'm in LA that day, I think.

Okay.

That changes.

Well, let's talk about the legislation for this.

All right, Commissioners, we are back in open session on line item fourteen.

Vote to elect whether to disclose any and all discussion on item thirteen held in close session.

Action disclosed.

If any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item fourteen, please approach the podium.

See none.

Yes.

Commissioner Scott is yes.

Commissioner Ye?

Yes.

Commissioner Ye is yes.

Commissioner Lyas?

Yes.

Yes.

Vice President Benedict.

President Clay is yes, you have six yeses.

Can we I'd like to adjourn this meeting on and have Commissioner Ye uh to join this meeting tonight?

Um John Marquise.