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Public Safety Subcommittee Meeting – July 23, 2024

City CouncilTuesday, July 23, 2024
BodySanta Rosa, California
SessionCity Council
DateTuesday, July 23, 2024
StatusFILED
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2:03

We hear you well.

2:08

Yeah, I am able to hear you.

2:12

And as I mentioned before, today I'll be doing the interpretation announcement.

10:19

I'd like to ask the interpreter currently on the Spanish channel to commence translation of this meeting.

10:26

For those just joining the meeting, live translation in Spanish is available, and members of the public or staff wishing to listen in Spanish can join the Spanish channel by clicking on the interpretation icon in the Zoom toolbar.

10:43

It looks like a globe.

10:53

Interpreter.

10:54

Will you please restate this in Spanish?

10:58

Buenas dias.

11:06

But recién se unena la reunion, we then unirse al canal de Spaniel at click in the icono de interpretación in la barra de herramientas de Zoom.

11:22

Ubique los thres puntitos.

11:44

Gracias.

11:45

Back to you.

11:51

Okay, good morning.

11:52

Let's call this meeting to order at nine oh three AM.

11:55

Um Madam Deputy City Clerk, can you call roll, please?

12:01

Thank you, Chair.

12:03

Mayor Rogers.

12:04

Present.

12:05

Councilmember Alvarez.

12:07

Chair O'Krepki.

12:08

Here.

12:09

Let the record reflect all subcommittee members are present.

12:12

Thank you very much.

12:14

Um no remote participation today.

12:16

Um no announcements.

12:18

So we'll move on to item 4.1, regular meeting minutes.

12:21

Uh do either of my colleagues have any amendments to the minutes?

12:25

I'd just like to abstain because I was not present.

12:28

Fair enough.

12:30

All right, we will go ahead and adopt those as submitted.

12:33

Uh we'll move on to uh public comment on non-agenda items.

12:37

This is your opportunity to speak to the subcommittee uh on any item that is not agendized um later in the meeting.

12:45

Um and it is under the purview of the public safety subcommittee.

12:48

So um I do not see we have any cards in.

12:52

Is there anybody that would like to speak on non-agenda items?

12:57

All right, we will move on.

13:00

Um item six, new business, we'll go to six point one.

13:04

Uh response to independent police auditors' recommendations.

13:08

Chief Kriegen, take it away.

13:23

And that professional standards team investigates all of our uh community complaints that come up and any officer misconduct cases.

13:30

We also have Steve Connolly from OIR group who's present here today in the audience and is able to uh take any questions from the OIR group.

13:37

So I'll turn over the first part of this presentation to Captain Morenzik to talk about the six recommendations and our immediate response to those.

13:49

So yeah, we're gonna go over the recommendations and talk a little bit about our response to them.

13:54

Uh before we do that, just quick little intro.

13:56

I know this is a a rehash of kind of how we're we got to where we were with OIR.

14:01

Um as we all know, they are our independent auditor for the city of Santa Rosa.

14:04

Um we are in contract with them and have been for the last several years.

14:08

Um one of the things that they review is our personnel investigations.

14:12

So those are our internal investigations that we conduct within our department if there's allegations of officer misconduct.

14:18

They also examine our department policies, practices, trainings.

14:21

Um, when officers involved in the use of force, they have the ability to audit that investigation and provide us with recommendations.

14:28

So uh back earlier in the year in June of this year, OER presented to the full council um and they went over their report that they provide annually and they provided six recommendations to the City of Santa Rosa Police Department of what we can do to improve uh the way that we look at some of our investigations and use of force investigations.

14:46

Next slide, please so I'm gonna briefly touch on um their recommendations and then go over them and afterwards if you have any questions, please feel free to ask.

15:00

Recommendation number one from OIR said SRPD should continue exploring approaches to providing complaints with detailed information about the nature of its investigative work and the basis for its findings.

15:08

So kind of how this recommendation spurred is at the conclusion when we conduct an investigation and it's an external complaint, which means that a member of our community provided that complaint to us, we will issue them what we call finding letters or disposition letters.

15:23

And what those letters are it provides sort of a synopsis of the complaint and what our findings were, whether that complaint was sustained, whether it was unfounded, whether it was exonerated, not sustained.

15:36

And so OIR's recommendation was to provide a little bit more specificity to those complaint or those finding letters.

15:44

And so, you know, that's a recommendation that we're thankful that OIR provided for us.

15:49

It's something that as we move forward in our investigations, we'll continue to look for ways to personalize those letters a little bit more.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Public Safety█████████████████████████████████████████████76%
Technology and Innovation███████11%
Procedural█████9%
Public Engagement2%
Community Engagement1%
Public Works1%
Summary of Proceedings

Public Safety Subcommittee Regular Meeting – July 23, 2024

The Public Safety Subcommittee of the Santa Rosa City Council met on July 23, 2024, at 9:03 a.m. (adjourned at 11:12 a.m.) to discuss the Police Department’s response to the Independent Police Auditor’s recommendations, the proposed Real Time Crime Center, and updates from the Police and Fire Departments. No formal action was taken; all items were informational.

Consent Calendar

  • Approval of Minutes (April 23, 2024): Mayor Natalie Rogers abstained because she was not present at the April meeting. The minutes were approved as submitted.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Item 6.2 – Real Time Crime Center:
    • Lauren Mendelsohn (Sonoma County ACLU) spoke in opposition, stating the center would create a vast surveillance network and that the community, not police, should lead decisions on surveillance technology.
    • Keith Rhinehart thanked the police department for its culture shift but expressed concerns about drones capturing minor domestic incidents and potentially drawing families into the justice system.
    • Danielle Nelson (General Manager, Santa Rosa Plaza) spoke in support, noting that organized retail theft is a serious issue and that the center would help combat crime and support downtown businesses.
    • Susan Carrell (reading a statement from Robin Jures, Center for Justice) opposed the center, calling it “spying” on citizens and visitors and expressing fear about its potential misuse.
    • Omar Figueroa (personal capacity) opposed the center, citing the need for a formal surveillance technology ordinance with guardrails, including prohibitions on facial recognition and predictive policing, and warning of liability under the Fourth Amendment.
    • Melissa Stewart (small business owner, parent) expressed support, noting that crime in her neighborhood and at schools (e.g., a student killed at Montgomery High School) makes her feel unsafe, and she sees the center as a necessary tool.
    • Susan Lamont (District 2) opposed the center on broader grounds, arguing that it creates a permanent surveillance infrastructure that could be abused by future leaders or federal authorities.
    • Jennifer LaPorta opposed the center, stating it crosses a line into unwarranted invasion of privacy and disproportionately impacts marginalized communities; she advocated for community-based solutions.

Discussion Items

  • 6.1 Response to Independent Police Auditor’s (OIR) Recommendations:

    • Captain Dan Marincik and Chief John Cregan presented the Police Department’s response to the six recommendations from OIR’s 2023 annual report. The department agreed with all recommendations and detailed steps taken, including: providing more detailed finding letters (within confidentiality limits), documenting non-disciplinary interventions, enhancing objectivity of subject interviews after force incidents, emphasizing learning opportunities in force reviews, updating the database template to include “training and counseling,” and implementing a Major Incident Review Board for critical incidents. Chief Cregan highlighted statistics: the department responded to 122,000 calls, made 7,000 arrests, used force in 193 incidents (0.15% of calls), had zero in-custody deaths, zero officer-involved shootings, and seized 255 illegal guns in 2023.
    • Subcommittee members praised the department’s culture shift and transparency. Councilmember Alvarez asked about predictive policing; Chief Cregan confirmed no such technology is used or planned. Mayor Rogers noted the importance of treating residents with dignity and respect.
  • 6.2 Real Time Crime Center (RTCC):

    • Chief Cregan, joined by Lieutenant Josh Ludtke, outlined the vision for the RTCC: a consolidation of existing technologies (ALPRs, surveillance cameras, drones, body-worn cameras, CAD, RMS) into an integrated platform to improve real-time situational awareness, response times, and investigative efficiency. Key points:
      • Funding: $898,000 federal earmark specifically for community gun violence reduction; no general fund money used.
      • Technology: No facial recognition, no predictive policing, no gunshot detection in phase 1. Drones are used reactively for missing persons, fleeing suspects, and crime scene mapping, not for proactive patrols.
      • Policies: Existing department policies on ALPRs, cameras, and drones are publicly available; a new RTCC policy is being drafted. Data retention: ALPR data stored on encrypted servers for 30 days only. No sharing with ICE (per California law). Routine audits planned.
      • Community engagement: Chief met with ACLU in December 2023, held a strategic plan meeting in March 2024, and continues to attend community meetings. He declined to support a surveillance ordinance like Sebastopol’s, citing operational limitations, grant competitiveness, and increased city liability.
    • Subcommittee discussion addressed privacy concerns, security of data, future funding, and safeguards against misuse. Councilmember Alvarez expressed fear that the RTCC is a “Pandora’s box” and requested a formal ordinance memorializing boundaries. Chair Okrepkie noted that no action could be taken by the subcommittee and that any future changes would require full council approval.
  • 8.1 Police Department Update:

    • Chief Cregan reported that all sworn officer positions are filled, with 28 female officers (a department record) and the latest academy class 50% female. The department won multiple awards for DUI enforcement, including Department of the Year for Northern California, with over 850 DUI arrests in 2023.
  • 8.2 Fire Department Update:

    • Fire Chief Scott Westrope reported that the department has 10 vacant suppression positions, with 6 new firefighters in an internal academy. Construction of Fire Station 5 is underway (completion April 2025), and Fire Station 8 in Roseland is in the design-build phase (contract award expected October 2024). Two new engines have arrived in Sacramento; five more expected fall 2024. Two SAFER grant squads went into service July 16, with a combined 137 incidents in the first seven days and an average turnout time of 40 seconds. The department is working on implementing Measure H (sales tax) with a draft implementation plan due December 2024.

Key Outcomes

  • No formal votes or actions were taken; all items were for discussion and information.
  • The next regular meeting of the Public Safety Subcommittee is scheduled for October 15, 2024, at 9:00 a.m.
  • Mayor Rogers requested that the ACLU’s proposed surveillance technology ordinance be sent to council members for further review.
  • Councilmember Alvarez expressed interest in formalizing boundaries for the RTCC through an ordinance or resolution.

Meeting Transcript

We hear you well. Yeah, I am able to hear you. And as I mentioned before, today I'll be doing the interpretation announcement. I'd like to ask the interpreter currently on the Spanish channel to commence translation of this meeting. For those just joining the meeting, live translation in Spanish is available, and members of the public or staff wishing to listen in Spanish can join the Spanish channel by clicking on the interpretation icon in the Zoom toolbar. It looks like a globe. Interpreter. Will you please restate this in Spanish? Buenas dias. But recién se unena la reunion, we then unirse al canal de Spaniel at click in the icono de interpretación in la barra de herramientas de Zoom. Ubique los thres puntitos. Gracias. Back to you. Okay, good morning. Let's call this meeting to order at nine oh three AM. Um Madam Deputy City Clerk, can you call roll, please? Thank you, Chair. Mayor Rogers. Present. Councilmember Alvarez. Chair O'Krepki. Here. Let the record reflect all subcommittee members are present. Thank you very much. Um no remote participation today. Um no announcements. So we'll move on to item 4.1, regular meeting minutes. Uh do either of my colleagues have any amendments to the minutes? I'd just like to abstain because I was not present. Fair enough. All right, we will go ahead and adopt those as submitted. Uh we'll move on to uh public comment on non-agenda items. This is your opportunity to speak to the subcommittee uh on any item that is not agendized um later in the meeting. Um and it is under the purview of the public safety subcommittee. So um I do not see we have any cards in. Is there anybody that would like to speak on non-agenda items? All right, we will move on. Um item six, new business, we'll go to six point one. Uh response to independent police auditors' recommendations. Chief Kriegen, take it away. And that professional standards team investigates all of our uh community complaints that come up and any officer misconduct cases. We also have Steve Connolly from OIR group who's present here today in the audience and is able to uh take any questions from the OIR group. So I'll turn over the first part of this presentation to Captain Morenzik to talk about the six recommendations and our immediate response to those. So yeah, we're gonna go over the recommendations and talk a little bit about our response to them. Uh before we do that, just quick little intro. I know this is a a rehash of kind of how we're we got to where we were with OIR. Um as we all know, they are our independent auditor for the city of Santa Rosa. Um we are in contract with them and have been for the last several years. Um one of the things that they review is our personnel investigations. So those are our internal investigations that we conduct within our department if there's allegations of officer misconduct.

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