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Santa Rosa Cultural Heritage Board Regular Meeting - May 19, 2021

Planning CommissionWednesday, May 19, 2021
BodySanta Rosa, California
SessionPlanning Commission
DateWednesday, May 19, 2021
StatusFILED
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0:00

buddy we are live now everything seems to be working um we're able to start when you are we are waiting for board member gale but we do have a quorum i'm not getting any response from board member gale so i'm gonna say let's go ahead and start the meeting and hopefully he'll he'll join in board members if you can all start your cameras and share me sir feel free to start whenever you're ready it uh doesn't want to let me start my video says unable to start you can't start your video because the host has stopped it should be good now we go let's see shall we begin on one moment and board member Garrett are you able to start your camera board member Gary are you able to hear me we need to turn on your camera well chair me so we still do have a quorum so if you want to proceed at your leisure okay well welcome all to the uh world of zoom board meetings and we'll we'll we'll get we'll get through it so some of you might be more experienced at this than than others but uh we'll all panic so I'd like to call the uh the meeting to order for the City of Santa Rosa Cultural Heritage Board uh I have a couple of statements that I'll read uh perhaps that due to the provisions of the governor's executive order in 2520 and in 2920 which suspends certain requirements of the Brown Act and the order of the health officer of the county of Sonoma to shelter in place to minimize the spread of COVID 19 the Cultural Heritage Board will be conducting today's meeting in a virtual setting using Zoom webinar board members and staff are participating from remote remote locations andor practicing appropriate social distancing members of the public may view and listen to the meeting as noted on the city's website and as noted on the agenda members of the public wishing to speak during item four public comment or during a public hearing item will be able to do so by raising their hand and we'll be given the ability to address the commission at this time I'd like to ask for a roll call let the record reflect that all could all board members are present except commissioner Gale and commission or sorry board member Gale and board member fennel has uh has rejoined the meeting so only board member Gale is absent at this time okay okay um okay uh the next item business is approval of previous minutes I don't believe we have any minutes that need to be approved it's been kind of a while since we've had a meeting am I correct with that that is correct we do not have any minutes meeting approval okay okay at this time I'd like to um open up public comments this a time when a person may address matters not listed on the agenda but with which are within the subject matter of the jurisdiction the public may comment on agenda items when the item is called um so if if you want to comment if you're a member of the public listening in now and you want to call on an item that is going to be on the agenda later just hold hold your comment you'll get an opportunity then this is for non-agenda items we will now open public comment for any item not included in this meeting's agenda if you wish to make a comment via zoom please select the raise your hand button if you are dialing in via telephone please dial star nine to raise your hand each speaker has three minutes a countdown timer will appear for the convenience of the speaker and viewers please make sure to unmute yourself when you are invited to do so your microphone will be muted at the end

5:00

We will now open public comment for any item not included in this meeting's agenda.

5:05

If you wish to make a comment via Zoom, please select the raise your hand button.

5:11

If you are dialing in via telephone, please dial star nine to raise your hand.

5:16

Each speaker has three minutes.

5:18

A countdown timer will appear for the convenience of the speaker and viewers.

5:23

Please make sure to unmute yourself when you are invited to do so.

5:27

Your microphone will be muted at the end of that countdown.

5:31

Recording secretary, do we have any public comments?

5:38

Thank you, Chairman.

5:38

Sir, no one is raising their hands at this time.

5:42

And I'll let you know that we have three members of the public currently in attendance.

5:48

Okay.

5:50

A couple more minutes here for technology reasons.

5:56

And while we did, I did want to fix I misspoke.

5:59

Currently, um Gail and Garrett are both absent.

6:02

So we've heard from Garrett, there she's having computer issues.

6:05

We'll hopefully be on shortly.

6:06

And I'll adjust the roll call when she arrives.

6:10

Okay.

6:13

Okay, uh close uh public comment, saying no public comment.

6:20

Okay, at this time we're gonna move into board business.

6:23

Um I will read our statement of purpose.

6:27

The Cultural Heritage Board shall consider the following matters, standards, guidelines, and criteria to the extent applicable in determining whether to grant or deny a permit, whether the proposed change is consistent or incompatible with the architectural period of the building, whether the proposed change is compatible with any adjacent or nearby landmark structures or preservation district structures, whether the colors, texture, materials, uh fenstration, decorative features, and details proposed are consistent with the period and or are compatible with adjacent structures, whether proposed change destroys or adversely affects an important architectural feature or features.

7:18

The Secretary of the Interior standards for rehabilitation and guidelines for rehabilitation, rehabilitating historic buildings, such other matters, criteria and standards as may be adopted by resolution by the Cultural Heritage Board.

7:40

Okay.

8:21

So in no particular order, um, I'm actually going to ask all of our board members to do this, since that way it'll give new board members an opportunity to hear from existing board members.

8:31

Um and they're just so um Henry, if um uh Henry Huang, if if it's okay, I'd like to start with you.

8:44

And you'll need to unmute.

8:50

Thank you.

8:51

Hi, yes.

8:52

Um, thank you.

8:53

My name is Henry Huang.

8:55

I am an attorney and also CPA and realtor in town.

9:02

And I own properties in four of the eight historical districts.

9:10

And originally I am from Chicago, and I moved here to Santa Rosa about 15 years ago.

9:19

And right before moving here, I lived in uh Hong Kong and Shanghai for three years.

9:26

Um, and what what made me what made me interested in the Cultural Heritage Board is uh I grew up in Oak Park, which is kind of famous for Frank Lloyd Wright.

9:39

And so from a very young age, I've been exposed to historical architecture and the preservation of it.

9:46

So I would like to contribute to this community.

9:50

Um hopefully with you know, based on my interest in you know, preserving uh old buildings.

10:04

Anything did you have any other questions, Chairman?

10:06

No, thank you, Henriane.

10:09

I I promised I I will try to pronounce your last name correctly next time.

10:13

I apologize.

10:15

And Maria, let's go with Maria uh Pratzellus.

10:23

It's a hard one.

10:24

Uh Pratzellus.

10:26

So yeah, my name's Maria Pratzellis.

10:28

And uh I actually grew up in the West End neighborhood.

10:33

If you know that neighborhood well um I grew up on it on 705 Madison Street.

10:38

There's two enormous palm trees that you can see from all over the neighborhood and I planted them when I was two for a Mother's Day present.

10:46

Apparently they cause a lot of problems as things drop from them now.

10:50

So I feel bad about that.

10:52

Both my parents actually were uh historical archaeologists they did a lot of work uh in Sonoma County and in Northern California so I kind of grew up immersed in that world um and then um as I was you know ready to start a career I kind of followed in their footsteps a bit and went into archives I have a graduate degree in history and I have been a professional archivist for 18 years now I work mostly in digital archives so I've done work in academic institutions business archives um nonprofits NGOs and I currently work for the University of California um office of the president so we do kind of system wide library work um around um data practices uh so you know obviously like uh historic preservation is kind of in my bones it's always been uh my passion um but I also have a sort of flip side balance to that is that you know a lot of my friends who grew up here are having a hard time affording housing and so I think affordable housing is really uh crucial to continue to really develop our wonderful city so I think balancing those two uh interests and uh is really important so I bring that uh to this group thanks thank you so much um uh Kathy Garrett we're gonna put you on the spot next you're muted Kathy sorry I'm Kathy Garrett and I know almost all of you um except for the new board member um praise um hi Bonnie hi Henry um and hi fellow board members from the past um I've been on and off the Cultural Heritage Board um for a number of years this is my I think my fourth term um and I I sort of got my arm twisted to come back on but I've been involved in in um cultural heritage uh for I don't know a very long time I helped write a book about the cult um the um historic buildings of San Francisco many many years ago and when we moved to Santa Rosa in 1974 I immediately got involved in um trying to save the downtown of Santa Rosa and um and was involved in I don't know probably 20 committees either up by the city or um independent um committees to save various buildings and various um historical districts I lived in the McDonald district for a very long time I still do I'm no longer in an historic home but um but I'm on I'm but I'm still in the neighborhood and I really care I care about all the neighborhoods in Santa Rosa they're all really the old neighborhoods the historic neighborhoods are really important to the fabric of our community and to um to tourism to um so much of what Santa Rosa has to offer today and if we lose these we will never get them back and um so I think I appreciate that time that everyone on this board is giving um to help protect and save um those historic districts intact and to try and make the historic districts work with um um current projects that need to be accomplished my background is in interior architecture and design uh which I did for I think 40 years um I grew up in San Francisco in an historic home and um so that's it but and and thank you all for being here thanks Chair Muser sorry I haven't trouble with my mouse here but uh thank you

15:10

And so that's it.

15:13

But and and thank you all for being here.

15:19

Thanks, Chair Muser.

15:26

Sorry, I'm having trouble with my mouse here.

15:28

But uh thank you, Kathy.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Cultural Heritage███████████████████████████████31%
Procedural████████████████████████24%
Community Engagement███████████████████████23%
Historic Preservation██████████████████18%
Public Comment██2%
Affordable Housing██2%
Summary of Proceedings

Santa Rosa Cultural Heritage Board Regular Meeting - May 19, 2021

The Santa Rosa Cultural Heritage Board met virtually on May 19, 2021, at 3:38 p.m. (due to a delayed start) and adjourned at 4:32 p.m. The meeting included board member introductions, election of a Vice Chair, recognition of outgoing board member Mark DeBacker, and two continued public hearings. Due to recusals and absences, both hearings were continued to future dates.

Board Business

  • Statement of Purpose – Chair Brian Meuser read the board's purpose regarding landmark alteration standards.
  • Board Member Introductions – Each member introduced themselves: Henry Huang (attorney, CPA, realtor, Chicago background, interest in Frank Lloyd Wright), Maria Praetzellis (archivist, grew up in West End neighborhood, emphasis on balancing preservation with affordable housing), Cappie Garrett (interior architect/designer, long-time preservation advocate, author of San Francisco historic buildings book, on/off board for multiple terms), Bonnie Boren (artist/teacher, interest in historic neighborhoods, new member), Laura Fennell (real estate broker, second term, lives in Burbank Gardens, focus on property owner education), Brian Meuser (chair, first term, restored historic homes in Cherry Street and Burbank Gardens). Stephen Gale was absent.
  • Recognition of Outgoing Board Member Mark DeBacker – Chair Meuser acknowledged DeBacker's 12 years of service. Board members and staff thanked him for his expertise and passion. He advised the board to use the Secretary of Interior standards and noted increasing pressure from infill development in historic districts.
  • Election of Vice Chair – Laura Fennell was nominated by Cappie Garrett, seconded by Bonnie Boren. The vote was 6-0-1 (Gale absent), and Fennell was elected Vice Chair.

Department Reports

  • Staff Liaison Susie Murray reported that the next meeting is scheduled for June 2, 2021, at 2:30 p.m. She announced upcoming training sessions: a Brown Act training (likely June 2) and a Downtown Station Area Plan training (late June/early July). She welcomed new members and thanked returning members.

Statements of Abstention

  • Item 7.1 (Turréy Garage Replacement): Chair Meuser recused due to property proximity and conflict of interest (owner is his Cal Green inspector).
  • Item 7.2 (Porch and Foundation Repair, 659 Pine St): Vice Chair Fennell, board member Huang, and Chair Meuser all recused due to proximity of their residences to the project (within 500 feet). This left only four available members (Boren, Fennell recused, Garrett, Huang recused, Praetzellis) – insufficient for a quorum. Staff explained the rule of necessity could allow a conflicted member to participate via random selection, but because board member Gale was absent, the rule could not be applied, forcing a continuance.

Scheduled Items (Public Hearings)

  • 7.1 – Turréy Garage Replacement, 664 Charles St (LMA20-013) – Continued from April 7, 2021. The applicant requested a continuance to a date uncertain. Motion by board member Garrett, seconded by Praetzellis to continue; passed 5-0-1 (Meuser recused, Gale absent). The item will be re-noticed before returning.
  • 7.2 – Porch and Foundation Repair, 659 Pine St (LMA20-012) – Continued from April 21, 2021. Due to lack of quorum (only 4 members available after recusals and Gale absent), the item was automatically continued to the next regularly scheduled meeting on June 2, 2021. No vote was taken.

Key Outcomes

  • Vice Chair elected: Laura Fennell (6-0-1).
  • Item 7.1 continued to a date uncertain (5-0-1), with new public notice required.
  • Item 7.2 continued to June 2, 2021, due to lack of quorum.
  • Board recognized Mark DeBacker for 12 years of service.
  • Next regular meeting: June 2, 2021, at 2:30 p.m.

Meeting Transcript

buddy we are live now everything seems to be working um we're able to start when you are we are waiting for board member gale but we do have a quorum i'm not getting any response from board member gale so i'm gonna say let's go ahead and start the meeting and hopefully he'll he'll join in board members if you can all start your cameras and share me sir feel free to start whenever you're ready it uh doesn't want to let me start my video says unable to start you can't start your video because the host has stopped it should be good now we go let's see shall we begin on one moment and board member Garrett are you able to start your camera board member Gary are you able to hear me we need to turn on your camera well chair me so we still do have a quorum so if you want to proceed at your leisure okay well welcome all to the uh world of zoom board meetings and we'll we'll we'll get we'll get through it so some of you might be more experienced at this than than others but uh we'll all panic so I'd like to call the uh the meeting to order for the City of Santa Rosa Cultural Heritage Board uh I have a couple of statements that I'll read uh perhaps that due to the provisions of the governor's executive order in 2520 and in 2920 which suspends certain requirements of the Brown Act and the order of the health officer of the county of Sonoma to shelter in place to minimize the spread of COVID 19 the Cultural Heritage Board will be conducting today's meeting in a virtual setting using Zoom webinar board members and staff are participating from remote remote locations andor practicing appropriate social distancing members of the public may view and listen to the meeting as noted on the city's website and as noted on the agenda members of the public wishing to speak during item four public comment or during a public hearing item will be able to do so by raising their hand and we'll be given the ability to address the commission at this time I'd like to ask for a roll call let the record reflect that all could all board members are present except commissioner Gale and commission or sorry board member Gale and board member fennel has uh has rejoined the meeting so only board member Gale is absent at this time okay okay um okay uh the next item business is approval of previous minutes I don't believe we have any minutes that need to be approved it's been kind of a while since we've had a meeting am I correct with that that is correct we do not have any minutes meeting approval okay okay at this time I'd like to um open up public comments this a time when a person may address matters not listed on the agenda but with which are within the subject matter of the jurisdiction the public may comment on agenda items when the item is called um so if if you want to comment if you're a member of the public listening in now and you want to call on an item that is going to be on the agenda later just hold hold your comment you'll get an opportunity then this is for non-agenda items we will now open public comment for any item not included in this meeting's agenda if you wish to make a comment via zoom please select the raise your hand button if you are dialing in via telephone please dial star nine to raise your hand each speaker has three minutes a countdown timer will appear for the convenience of the speaker and viewers please make sure to unmute yourself when you are invited to do so your microphone will be muted at the end We will now open public comment for any item not included in this meeting's agenda. If you wish to make a comment via Zoom, please select the raise your hand button. If you are dialing in via telephone, please dial star nine to raise your hand. Each speaker has three minutes. A countdown timer will appear for the convenience of the speaker and viewers. Please make sure to unmute yourself when you are invited to do so. Your microphone will be muted at the end of that countdown. Recording secretary, do we have any public comments? Thank you, Chairman. Sir, no one is raising their hands at this time. And I'll let you know that we have three members of the public currently in attendance. Okay. A couple more minutes here for technology reasons. And while we did, I did want to fix I misspoke. Currently, um Gail and Garrett are both absent. So we've heard from Garrett, there she's having computer issues. We'll hopefully be on shortly. And I'll adjust the roll call when she arrives. Okay. Okay, uh close uh public comment, saying no public comment. Okay, at this time we're gonna move into board business. Um I will read our statement of purpose. The Cultural Heritage Board shall consider the following matters, standards, guidelines, and criteria to the extent applicable in determining whether to grant or deny a permit, whether the proposed change is consistent or incompatible with the architectural period of the building, whether the proposed change is compatible with any adjacent or nearby landmark structures or preservation district structures, whether the colors, texture, materials, uh fenstration, decorative features, and details proposed are consistent with the period and or are compatible with adjacent structures, whether proposed change destroys or adversely affects an important architectural feature or features. The Secretary of the Interior standards for rehabilitation and guidelines for rehabilitation, rehabilitating historic buildings, such other matters, criteria and standards as may be adopted by resolution by the Cultural Heritage Board. Okay. So in no particular order, um, I'm actually going to ask all of our board members to do this, since that way it'll give new board members an opportunity to hear from existing board members. Um and they're just so um Henry, if um uh Henry Huang, if if it's okay, I'd like to start with you. And you'll need to unmute. Thank you. Hi, yes. Um, thank you. My name is Henry Huang. I am an attorney and also CPA and realtor in town. And I own properties in four of the eight historical districts. And originally I am from Chicago, and I moved here to Santa Rosa about 15 years ago. And right before moving here, I lived in uh Hong Kong and Shanghai for three years. Um, and what what made me what made me interested in the Cultural Heritage Board is uh I grew up in Oak Park, which is kind of famous for Frank Lloyd Wright. And so from a very young age, I've been exposed to historical architecture and the preservation of it. So I would like to contribute to this community. Um hopefully with you know, based on my interest in you know, preserving uh old buildings. Anything did you have any other questions, Chairman? No, thank you, Henriane. I I promised I I will try to pronounce your last name correctly next time. I apologize. And Maria, let's go with Maria uh Pratzellus. It's a hard one. Uh Pratzellus. So yeah, my name's Maria Pratzellis. And uh I actually grew up in the West End neighborhood.

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