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Shoreline Planning Commission Meeting – July 15, 2021: Code Amendments and Landmark Hearing

Planning CommissionThursday, July 15, 2021
BodyShoreline, Washington
SessionPlanning Commission
DateThursday, July 15, 2021
StatusFILED
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2:18

Oh we started so I think the wider two I joined us for an increase meeting and start off with wall calls that so I can help us do this one very much.

4:27

So my uh I don't have the other thing, so my thoughts I suspect.

4:37

So we don't do that.

5:01

So I'm screening so uh the side um this is um um changes or anything and questions um um so on this class and three glasses we have a lot of roots um this five sense is um user mission for those verifications and bags and version buildings uh batteries is all three three and some uh number one uh three race recent classes changes to a season uh specific things um specifically same person that maybe I just uh maybe first to update the things maybe nothing has been questioned and I read um the two members are the uh sections the uh the only time that was fast on the this year and this is that is an amendment uh control is the apple seeds offering center so um this is specifically transition how to use this um definitely um this agency and these agencies and uh um transition uh um you can see and then there's three is uh definitely hard state product and class feed and screws and nothing is hard to see previous time um new ones and last three other as a chance to use the options to be the same and still based on specific manufacturers specifications so this registering question applications and water engine three nine service was um so um so it's a classic and that's a man is uh uh see uh

10:00

So this regards the population and service and water and three nine and so far and I just mean this five years and five seasons flashes and five and new conditions and five search systems and small things and it's not added so far and so I think it's a man for example another classes and see what you see in this condition for C and Clack here and see my things and so I think it's a man's eight nine two guys on C3 the same side wire Cows and Places and I think properties and see how this is two five things and found series and this is where um sounds

15:06

This is where some of the five things single family file this year's five things and sections and must be up to must have used sound to see all the systems I see also these things and trees to one system.

17:10

Um small thesis services are using services on software um type of screen.

18:40

Um just the qualified questions processing value section and supply um three systems and space and five and the last two and stream and costumes and must be fine and so we see that not required.

20:00

So we see the last right and stream and costumes and following these things and not require um looking at four years requirements and reasons and reasons and see that the asking these guys and sounds for this happening on this for the first one just to do that and then try to look at that one more time because it is why we're starting to split to all both radiation, but it is each white.

24:20

So I just want to know if why that's interesting that you look at the starting out of the underline system.

25:06

Uh the other question has to be the uh in the policy, and that's uh coming number.

25:15

Uh and that question has to be possible, that's a good idea, however, what is in the core that would be a social media find some of the old beings and needs and most times called.

25:35

And so the question is how we can be going to be honest, when we say the ABCD, I will make the only fire find sometimes some of the issues has to be with the old fire calls and being speculated.

25:53

So from the social perspective, um what is it that we are seeing that we'd be able to make things only opposite what it means and making sure that it doesn't run somewhere from the last public isn't much in the existing surrounding so when you change the additions and you have this uh building that doesn't need time for what's the kind of thing so we do it possibly and I see the so that you have my last question that has to be uh so that you must allow the I want to see on the last one, and it's a channel.

26:53

Okay, what is it?

26:56

Yes, so um these uh required to use the faster requirements and five and so basically uh specific element and then uh then these are what I mean is new is more research simulation and I see the one that is in properties and um and then um my question has to be the price for the land for the method as included in the price sounds very big, but what it does that is missing for us, at least for me, this data decision makes it mean that you might have to be fine that you found that on average because this is what you do, so that we have this on the knowledge that people have actually overlap and that they would be the one that I see uh and what I see as a console I really think.

30:05

So that we have this and the knowledge that people have actually overlap and that they would be the one that I see what I see is a consigned I mean that all that you can have to do spaces are fine that you can read from the back of the new that we have not missed by still have to do that.

31:07

And you see that instead of a lot of things.

31:28

So how can first be so how you enforce that so much we had there?

31:47

As opposed to the city's lack of system is the reason why you find that's actually a lot of soldiers, but we have one more.

32:21

Um street nice manufacturing spaces and I mean that's the case in that is a reasonable.

34:35

Yeah, uh working for everybody, you can use some of these working for you.

35:04

And then 25% on the 75 screen but it's a CNN has been building now we have less five and so I'm aware of these on the project that less than one point three uh space is pretty much but you look as it is might be different and we can just see it differently.

36:06

So not any cases like that kind of you know it really depends on closed and this is a crazy I think this is a no believer I can use I can go back to reading session and everybody you need to do this uh what is going to be such a marketing series and then you can bring that low course and be something to uh is it something like that is so um that's gonna be that you can do something that is so interesting and see that presentation as a possible um there's so it's gonna go around that's a really good um oh here we go well uh that's why I just wanted to say for the I said um um I just want to I'm gonna support the second I think today um just for the call is uh this uh the new state long July first uh city channel required I'll see that it's fine and quarter mile and so um this is uh the SSD 660 uh should be um why is it I can find this um actually uh Classic I guess um I can work uh this is five and all and so you know um is it working is it's a change while you have to find out when we look at that and see what the language is um you can look into that to see if there's something five to something comes out and see a lot and I pretty much do nothing so I'm not aware of that so it's I'll have to look at that something else really it could be that it's just encouraging so you um yeah I was just one of the I mean we talked about

40:08

I'm not aware of that, so it's uh I'll have to look at that so it could be that it's just interesting so you see uh um yeah, I was just wondering because I mean we talked about these for the house uh talking about it before the speech and just an actual state license also in general stable perspective and retrospective, so um it will be impactful, but we'll we'll be able to see where we can just 35.

41:16

Um the SSD six six one seven, which is where the one's got hearing you.

42:28

That's frustrating uh I would like to have what you had to say.

42:32

I'm wondering if quite possible is there a chat or something uh this looks like possible.

43:15

Sorry about that.

43:18

Uh things uh progress you know what to use as a push to that.

43:30

Um so maybe based on that specific pieces of that specific product and that's the um whatever products that specification or maybe or commenters or things like uh main thing on and uh for you for that.

44:00

That's why I saw more of the um 50% more than things have excessive uh um we see more conference.

44:37

Do you have any questions?

44:43

Um if there's some like a fact if we can just uh discrip the maybe uh uh see uh uh Mrs.

44:55

is able to uh is it's uh fit to five one by one.

45:02

I have so I guess it's um so I I think um so just uh just quickly before we uh close today's discussion.

45:13

Uh we can have review them and sort of each single uh um in one's all um uh these are and uh this uh my uh question uh is related to this uh try to set back uh uh it's quite interesting um that um the new home uh came to the error of what's uh what's this uh um some uh neighbors uh uh notes.

45:58

Um so I was just thinking about how I can find um uh we have for example is the uh not just one uh line and what is not to see that in between uh these two existing calls is different uh size were uh the data waiting to have one uh get to have uh a one piece framework where the phone is a one is two ones 20 and so uh need all the first one about maybe uh so they can use 15 so then the single one in between uh between the uh 10 and uh 15 and it can use the um 20 uh twice uh what I have to miss yeah yeah and um sort of so how do how do we find out uh because uh in future there will be maybe some old homes that will take your and um maybe that um uh so we want to look at what is the core that we want to see um so we can since you're talking about water loss it would I guess that's the supervision says that the two the two addition loss um less than um but she's only ever gonna have one additional and uh so I'll be that revisable to now if you didn't get to these so this only had uh solution that you want to have right so and uh I don't you know um yeah that's side and I think so and the other side all the size is uh screen and so this has to be um the other size this side can be some can you pull up the picture if we have on the screen or while looking at um session yeah I saw uh pretty sure I was was reporting to the the uh document what you do that have the picture in it and so it is 19 maybe what can do is here on the screen and for people who might be a while while you're doing that I have a question for this here um I I live on a lot and because of that my question too would be if I would need to review myself on that particular advice and I can see that right now but anyhow one way any single one that

50:00

Um I live on a lot.

50:04

And because of that, my question too would be if I would need to repeat myself on that particular.

50:27

I mean one way and see the one that maybe I should actually someway.

50:37

So now we'll see if you okay.

50:45

Okay.

50:52

So I have a set of this uh anything about the two friends.

51:06

Or we're looking at uh this this session uh posting amended for the two five minutes that second section is like the house is fine guys and that button.

51:35

Okay, uh this uh this system is I I suspect that's all because you see the show and that particular picture.

52:02

Yeah, and the reason I need to session because this refers to those um corner so this is here because we see to make it uh clearer at all that guys that's the situation because I do what I can do for that.

52:30

Um are there any other questions that someone else would know?

52:37

I'm curious on the virtual building as to better understand how that would work.

52:44

Let's say for you we had a the course of all they used to sell ISP.

52:50

Um the people who want to use that building or want to sell uh ISP.

53:00

Would they need to what what how would this amendment apply anything?

53:08

Um so we would consider that eating the drinking style is an extra value.

53:15

Um use this provision uh so that building um now requires 20 parking spaces, but there's only five on that site, and you could keep what's error now.

53:32

Um that new canon sure I would have to get clarification if you would have to come in um that's continuous um these types of second slides and use so I don't know the answer.

53:59

I can find out I think that I'd be uh one class out of here.

54:09

Uh are there any other questions?

54:16

Uh is the group of green way to show in just to see uh to walk through very quickly and see all the amendments one more time, or might say the preference to uh just look at us some kind of things to walk through and see.

54:38

Okay, that's good.

54:40

Now you're ready to go.

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Summary of Proceedings

Shoreline Planning Commission Meeting – July 15, 2021

The Shoreline Planning Commission met remotely on July 15, 2021, to discuss several code amendments, ongoing Special Study District (SSD) projects, parking requirements, and upcoming hearings. The meeting also included updates on a landmark designation for a hospital and a joint meeting with the City Council scheduled for October 25, 2021.

Discussion Items

  • Code Amendments: The commission reviewed proposed amendments to the zoning code, including adding definitions for "CMS3" and "RC" use types, and a requirement related to "wrongs up price to party" (likely a cost-recovery provision). The amendments are intended to clarify regulations and align with state law.
  • SSD 660 and SSD 661: Staff reported that recommendations for these SSD (Special Study District) projects would go to the City Council on Monday, July 19, 2021, for a first study session. SSD 661 was noted as having a hearing scheduled.
  • Parking Requirement: A discussion arose about a building that currently requires 20 parking spaces but only has five on site. Under the proposed amendment, the existing parking could be retained, but clarification was needed on whether a new use (e.g., selling ISP services) would trigger additional requirements.
  • Virtual Building and ISP Use: A commissioner asked about how the amendment would apply to a "virtual building" used to sell ISP services. Staff responded that eating and drinking style would be considered an extra value under the provision, but further clarification was needed on whether the use would require a new parking review.
  • Landmark Designation: The commission noted that on July 26, 2021, the City Council would hold a hearing on the landmark designation for a hospital (likely UW Medical Center or similar), including the boundary of the landmark area.
  • Joint Meeting with Council: The commission discussed a joint workshop with the City Council on October 25, 2021, to develop direction for zoning and development regulations around transit stations, focusing on growth near stations.

Key Outcomes

  • The code amendments discussed will be presented to the City Council on July 19, 2021, for a study session.
  • The commission will continue to refine the amendments based on questions raised, particularly regarding parking and use definitions.
  • A landmark designation hearing is scheduled for July 26, 2021.
  • The joint meeting with the City Council is set for October 25, 2021, to discuss transit-oriented development strategies.
  • The next regular commission meeting was noted to be in a few weeks.

Meeting Transcript

Oh we started so I think the wider two I joined us for an increase meeting and start off with wall calls that so I can help us do this one very much. So my uh I don't have the other thing, so my thoughts I suspect. So we don't do that. So I'm screening so uh the side um this is um um changes or anything and questions um um so on this class and three glasses we have a lot of roots um this five sense is um user mission for those verifications and bags and version buildings uh batteries is all three three and some uh number one uh three race recent classes changes to a season uh specific things um specifically same person that maybe I just uh maybe first to update the things maybe nothing has been questioned and I read um the two members are the uh sections the uh the only time that was fast on the this year and this is that is an amendment uh control is the apple seeds offering center so um this is specifically transition how to use this um definitely um this agency and these agencies and uh um transition uh um you can see and then there's three is uh definitely hard state product and class feed and screws and nothing is hard to see previous time um new ones and last three other as a chance to use the options to be the same and still based on specific manufacturers specifications so this registering question applications and water engine three nine service was um so um so it's a classic and that's a man is uh uh see uh So this regards the population and service and water and three nine and so far and I just mean this five years and five seasons flashes and five and new conditions and five search systems and small things and it's not added so far and so I think it's a man for example another classes and see what you see in this condition for C and Clack here and see my things and so I think it's a man's eight nine two guys on C3 the same side wire Cows and Places and I think properties and see how this is two five things and found series and this is where um sounds This is where some of the five things single family file this year's five things and sections and must be up to must have used sound to see all the systems I see also these things and trees to one system. Um small thesis services are using services on software um type of screen. Um just the qualified questions processing value section and supply um three systems and space and five and the last two and stream and costumes and must be fine and so we see that not required. So we see the last right and stream and costumes and following these things and not require um looking at four years requirements and reasons and reasons and see that the asking these guys and sounds for this happening on this for the first one just to do that and then try to look at that one more time because it is why we're starting to split to all both radiation, but it is each white. So I just want to know if why that's interesting that you look at the starting out of the underline system. Uh the other question has to be the uh in the policy, and that's uh coming number. Uh and that question has to be possible, that's a good idea, however, what is in the core that would be a social media find some of the old beings and needs and most times called. And so the question is how we can be going to be honest, when we say the ABCD, I will make the only fire find sometimes some of the issues has to be with the old fire calls and being speculated. So from the social perspective, um what is it that we are seeing that we'd be able to make things only opposite what it means and making sure that it doesn't run somewhere from the last public isn't much in the existing surrounding so when you change the additions and you have this uh building that doesn't need time for what's the kind of thing so we do it possibly and I see the so that you have my last question that has to be uh so that you must allow the I want to see on the last one, and it's a channel. Okay, what is it? Yes, so um these uh required to use the faster requirements and five and so basically uh specific element and then uh then these are what I mean is new is more research simulation and I see the one that is in properties and um and then um my question has to be the price for the land for the method as included in the price sounds very big, but what it does that is missing for us, at least for me, this data decision makes it mean that you might have to be fine that you found that on average because this is what you do, so that we have this on the knowledge that people have actually overlap and that they would be the one that I see uh and what I see as a console I really think. So that we have this and the knowledge that people have actually overlap and that they would be the one that I see what I see is a consigned I mean that all that you can have to do spaces are fine that you can read from the back of the new that we have not missed by still have to do that. And you see that instead of a lot of things. So how can first be so how you enforce that so much we had there? As opposed to the city's lack of system is the reason why you find that's actually a lot of soldiers, but we have one more. Um street nice manufacturing spaces and I mean that's the case in that is a reasonable. Yeah, uh working for everybody, you can use some of these working for you. And then 25% on the 75 screen but it's a CNN has been building now we have less five and so I'm aware of these on the project that less than one point three uh space is pretty much but you look as it is might be different and we can just see it differently. So not any cases like that kind of you know it really depends on closed and this is a crazy I think this is a no believer I can use I can go back to reading session and everybody you need to do this uh what is going to be such a marketing series and then you can bring that low course and be something to uh is it something like that is so um that's gonna be that you can do something that is so interesting and see that presentation as a possible um there's so it's gonna go around that's a really good um oh here we go well uh that's why I just wanted to say for the I said um um I just want to I'm gonna support the second I think today um just for the call is uh this uh the new state long July first uh city channel required I'll see that it's fine and quarter mile and so um this is uh the SSD 660 uh should be um why is it I can find this um actually uh Classic I guess um I can work uh this is five and all and so you know um is it working is it's a change while you have to find out when we look at that and see what the language is um you can look into that to see if there's something five to something comes out and see a lot and I pretty much do nothing so I'm not aware of that so it's I'll have to look at that something else really it could be that it's just encouraging so you um yeah I was just one of the I mean we talked about I'm not aware of that, so it's uh I'll have to look at that so it could be that it's just interesting so you see uh um yeah, I was just wondering because I mean we talked about these for the house uh talking about it before the speech and just an actual state license also in general stable perspective and retrospective, so um it will be impactful, but we'll we'll be able to see where we can just 35. Um the SSD six six one seven, which is where the one's got hearing you. That's frustrating uh I would like to have what you had to say. I'm wondering if quite possible is there a chat or something uh this looks like possible. Sorry about that. Uh things uh progress you know what to use as a push to that. Um so maybe based on that specific pieces of that specific product and that's the um whatever products that specification or maybe or commenters or things like uh main thing on and uh for you for that. That's why I saw more of the um 50% more than things have excessive uh um we see more conference. Do you have any questions? Um if there's some like a fact if we can just uh discrip the maybe uh uh see uh uh Mrs. is able to uh is it's uh fit to five one by one. I have so I guess it's um so I I think um so just uh just quickly before we uh close today's discussion. Uh we can have review them and sort of each single uh um in one's all um uh these are and uh this uh my uh question uh is related to this uh try to set back uh uh it's quite interesting um that um the new home uh came to the error of what's uh what's this uh um some uh neighbors uh uh notes. Um so I was just thinking about how I can find um uh we have for example is the uh not just one uh line and what is not to see that in between uh these two existing calls is different uh size were uh the data waiting to have one uh get to have uh a one piece framework where the phone is a one is two ones 20 and so uh need all the first one about maybe uh so they can use 15 so then the single one in between uh between the uh 10 and uh 15 and it can use the um 20 uh twice uh what I have to miss yeah yeah and um sort of so how do how do we find out uh because uh in future there will be maybe some old homes that will take your and um maybe that um uh so we want to look at what is the core that we want to see um so we can since you're talking about water loss it would I guess that's the supervision says that the two the two addition loss um less than um but she's only ever gonna have one additional and uh so I'll be that revisable to now if you didn't get to these so this only had uh solution that you want to have right so and uh I don't you know um yeah that's side and I think so and the other side all the size is uh screen and so this has to be um the other size this side can be some can you pull up the picture if we have on the screen or while looking at um session yeah I saw uh pretty sure I was was reporting to the the uh document what you do that have the picture in it and so it is 19 maybe what can do is here on the screen and for people who might be a while while you're doing that I have a question for this here um I I live on a lot and because of that my question too would be if I would need to review myself on that particular advice and I can see that right now but anyhow one way any single one that Um I live on a lot. And because of that, my question too would be if I would need to repeat myself on that particular. I mean one way and see the one that maybe I should actually someway. So now we'll see if you okay. Okay. So I have a set of this uh anything about the two friends. Or we're looking at uh this this session uh posting amended for the two five minutes that second section is like the house is fine guys and that button. Okay, uh this uh this system is I I suspect that's all because you see the show and that particular picture. Yeah, and the reason I need to session because this refers to those um corner so this is here because we see to make it uh clearer at all that guys that's the situation because I do what I can do for that. Um are there any other questions that someone else would know? I'm curious on the virtual building as to better understand how that would work. Let's say for you we had a the course of all they used to sell ISP.

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