Hello, welcome to the licenses and permits committee meeting of the city council on Wednesday, January 21st, 2006.

I'm um Ward 7 City Councillor Emily Hart.

Um, and pursuant to chapter two of the Acts of 2025, this meeting of a city council committee will be conducted via remote participation.

We'll post an audio recording, audio video recording, transcript, or other comprehensive record of these proceedings as soon as possible after the meeting on the City of Somerville website and local cable access government channels.

Um Clerk Potier, can you call the role?

Absolutely, Madam Chair.

Counselor Davis.

Here.

Counselor Wheeler.

Here.

Chair Hart.

Here.

We have a quorum.

Excellent.

Thank you.

The first agenda item is approval of the minutes of the licenses and permits committee meeting of December 10th, 2025.

And that's item uh 25 1862.

Are there any comments or questions about the minutes?

Not from me.

Thanks.

Okay.

I will lay those on the table to approve at the end.

The second item is a public hearing.

Um it is ID 25-1702, referred for recommendation.

New used car dealer, class two license, Union Square Auto Sales at 39 Webster Avenue.

20 vehicles outside, Monday through Friday, 8 a.m.

to 6 p.m., Saturday, 8 a.m.

to 2 p.m., and Sunday closed.

Um I will now declare this public hearing open.

Is there a representative here to speak on this item?

Madam Chair, I do see a hand raised.

Excellent.

Attorney Dash, you are unmuted on our end.

And I'm unmuted on my end.

Um good evening, uh, counselors.

Uh good to see counselor Davis dressed for the weather.

Um I'm Adam Dash, 48 Grove Street representing uh Union Square Auto Sales LLC.

Also out there should be Chris Vigos of Union Square Auto Sales if he's needed.

Um we're here to discuss the Union Square Auto Sales application for used code dealer license for 39 webs to have.

The property was most recently used as a used car dealership and has been for some time.

The applicant is just looking to do the same thing in the same place in the same manner as the prior dealer.

They just need their own license, is all.

So they're just gonna be a new operator basically in the same location, doing the same thing.

The number of cars are the same as before.

The hours of operation are the same as before.

Um, Thatcher and Chris, Chris and his partner Thatcher Irvin have experience in Sumville operating a different used car dealership in a different location.

Um, all's gone well.

So we are looking to um be approved here tonight, uh, or at least to be ref referred with a positive recommendation so the full city council could take it up, hopefully tomorrow night.

Um, we're here for any questions.

Thank you.

Excellent.

Thank you.

Um, do any of the committee members have any questions?

Yes, Counselor Wheeler.

Hi, thanks.

Um, this being my first uh meeting with this committee, uh, I'm curious about the process.

Uh I don't have any objections with this uh application.

Uh I am curious, uh, though, I do note that um quite a few of the automotive-related uh applications that have come before the council just in in this month.

Um I sort of do a little bit of looking up online.

There is, you know, often uh, you know, as you're suggesting, um, other named businesses that have been doing similar uh similar operations in the same place recently.

Uh, I know sometimes there's uh ambiguity or uh changes in the names of businesses uh in different places.

And uh I'm just I just wanted to highlight that I'm curious about sort of making sure that we're tracking these uh these businesses and the people who are running these businesses um in a sensible way, so that in the rare times that there's somebody who is um is you know, maybe breaking a rule uh and then changing the name of their business or starting a new business and doing a similar application that we can notice that uh and therefore be helping the you know the well-intentioned and uh and good citizen players, so to speak.

Um this attorney Adam Dash again.

Yeah, I appreciate that.

Uh Kelly, you know, this is a brand new business.

Um they are doing the same thing as the prior operator at this location, but the prior operators left this location.

But so we're stepping in as a brand new company doing a brand new thing, although it is the same thing, it is not related to the old operators whatsoever.

Um, and as part of this process, I mean the city does have a lot of guardrails built in for these used car dealer licenses, posting a bond, getting two letters of recommendation, having criminal record checks done on the principles.

Uh it's a one of the more rigorous licenses to obtain, to be honest, just filing the application takes a lot.

Um so the fact that they've done that, and as I said, they've been approved by this council for a different location under they have a different company that does that other location, but it's the same people behind it.

Um, and they've been through that all of that process and have been operating fine.

So as I said, nothing's changing as far as the neighbors are going to see other than the sign.

I don't think anything's going to change whatsoever.

Um, because it's going to just be more of the same.

However, just for your purposes, it's a completely different operator.

That's why we need a new license to do the same thing.

Otherwise, we would not.

And then the licenses have to get renewed by you periodically, which is why they're coming.

I'm assuming these other ones are coming up.

Thanks.

I appreciate that context.

That's all my questions.

No problem.

And Mr.

Dash, just to clarify the other business uh um operated by um these operators haven't had any complaints or um citations from the city.

Uh not of which I'm aware.

Mr.

Svigos is here.

He could, if he wants to be able to unmute himself, Chris Vigos, he could probably uh verify that.

But I'm I've certainly not aware of any.

Uh through the chair, I do see a hand raised um by Mr.

Svigos, if you would uh like to uh sponsor them to speak.

Sure.

I will.

Yes, please.

Um hello, can everybody hear me?

Yes.

Um yeah, going off of what Adam said, uh, I don't believe I've seen anything as far as the prior operator having any trouble with the city or any of the residents around.

Okay, just to clarify, I actually meant your other business uh in Somerville.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Um, that correctly.

Yes, no, we we haven't had any issues, no complaints.

Um to be honest, and with you, we've been lucky enough to have a lot of happy customers, which is nice.

Great, great, thank you.

And counselor Davis, thanks for your patience.

Um yeah, thank thank you.

Um so I I appreciate that.

Um I think to the NL I'd be happy if um attorney Dash has any concerns on this, then I certainly would be happy to hear them.

Um forgive me if this if you know, if if so, but um I'm just thinking in terms of you know, I in terms of folks who might be uh you know, watching this and and and might want to weigh in.

Um is there yeah, and and hopefully it's not like that would be the case, but is that is it um would you be willing to share the the name and location of the the US business for for that context since you're bringing it up?

Oh, sure, absolutely on Adam Dash again.

No, they're um operating the Assembly Square Auto Sales on Mystic Avenue, um under a different under Assembly Square Auto Sales LLC, and just they've compartmentalized them with different LLCs, but they're the same two individuals.

Yeah, okay.

Thank you.

Through you, Madam Chair, um to uh attorney dash.

Yeah, totally understand.

Um, not uncommon at all, in fact, quite common that folks would uh set up a different uh you know operating business uh name to hold different locations stuff.

So nothing, no concerns there whatsoever.

Just thought we'd since it was raised and use as a uh as an example, I thought it was appropriate to ask for that name.

And you know, hypothetically, if anyone had any any thoughts, I suppose positive or otherwise, um, that they wanted uh folks would have an opportunity to weigh in prior to uh well, I guess tomorrow night, but um uh I I the only thing I want to clarify is just um for uh for anyone who's looking at the actual application, and there's a parenthetical that's is might be a little misleading.

And and so um through you, Madam Chair, well I guess really since a clarification, you've you've already um dash and Mr.

Z Vigos have already uh pretty clearly stated this, but um there's a there's an example is given uh such as the increase in number of automo automobile trips, hours of operation, um and so or change the address of the building.

So none of those apply.

That that condition um isn't uh none of those examples are conditions, it's simply the um the the change of ownership of the of the um the entity owning the license and operating the business.

Greg, absolutely no other business changes.

Yeah, this is Adam Dash again.

That is absolutely correct, Counselor Davis.

That if any of those things changed, uh ISD is saying you would need a special permit, but in fact we don't because we're just a continuation of uh pre-existing use.

Yeah, exactly.

All right, thank you.

Just wanted to uh to point that out if folks are looking at that and maybe a little confused.

Um sounds good to appreciate y'all being here and answer questions.

I have no further questions, Madam Chair.

All right.

Thank you, Counselor Davis.

Um I did are there is there anyone else who wishes to speak on this item?

This is a public hearing.

If there are any members of the public who wish to be heard on this item, please raise your hand in the Zoom lobby.

Madam Chair, seeing no hands.

Okay, thank you.

So I declare this public hearing closed.

And um I'd like to lay it on the table for approval at the end, if that works.

Okay.

Um item three is a grant of location.

Um and this is something that was an item that was carried over from last year.

It's ID 25-1754, ever source applying for a grant of location to install a total of 38 feet of conduit in Warwick Street from utility poll 357 over three to a point of pickup at 16 Warwick Street.

Um is the applicant or representative of the applicant here?

Madam Chair, I do see a hand raised.

Okay, fantastic.

You are unmuted on our end.

Hi, how are you?

Um my name's Hannah Cooper.

Sorry, I'm um covering for Jackie tonight.

Um, thank you.

Um so I do understand there was just a question um from the last meeting of the spare like risers on the poll.

Okay.

So we were able to find out um we own two of the risers that are currently on the poll.

One of them is for the primary line to the transformer, and the other one is a spare for that primary line in case anything goes wrong, there's a fault.

So that one has to stay available um and open.

So that's that's why we have to install another one for this.

Okay.

Um so you clarified that they are uh that two of them are ever sources.

Do you know the third?

I believe there's a third.

Um there is a third.

We we don't own it, so we don't have the option of doing anything with it.

Okay.

And the two um that are ever sources are both are necessary.

Correct, yeah.

I understand.

Yeah, one is currently the primary line for the transformer.

Um, and the other one is is a backup for that primary line, so it has to stay available in case there's any fault with the the primary line to the transformer.

Okay, excellent.

Um can I uh clerk potier, can I give some background um for anyone listening about this item?

Is that Madam Chair through you?

That would be with being your discretion, of course.

Okay.

I just wanted to, if for anyone watching, um there was a a butter who came to the past meeting to speak on this issue.

Um wondering why there would need to be an additional um conduit or riser, um, because there are already several.

So I really appreciate you, Miss Cooper, for getting that information and clarifying that for us.

Um committee members, do you have any questions or comments?

Yes, Counselor Davis.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Um and thank you.

Um to and and I forgive me, I I Jackie's fill-in for tonight.

I've forgotten your name.

Um Hannah, was it?

Yes.

Um okay.

Um thank you for for following up on that.

Um let me just so I I guess make sure I understand because you know, I uh at the last meeting I was looking at the the you know the street images of of this poll.

Um and it looks like yeah, as you said, there's sort of there's two browsers coming up to a certain point, and then it looks like maybe one of them stops, and then there's another one coming up.

Well, so uh through the chair to you, where is the transformer?

Is it is this is it on where is the transformer that you're talking about?

Is it up in the air?

Is it on a building?

Is it on the ground?

Where you're talking about going to a transformer, just uh uh the the transformer on the poll.

Hang on.

I I I don't have an image of the poll.

I'm sorry, give me one second.

Sorry, I wasn't I wasn't sent a picture of the poll.

Hold on.

And full disclosure, I'm just using a commonly known publicly available street view uh provider.

Appears to be from August of 2024.

So relatively aged, but sounds like it's it's you know what I'm looking at it certainly meets the description that we heard at the last meeting at least.

Sure.

Yeah, so let me I just had to look at the the plan and see.

I just don't want to say it's on the poll like realistically.

Give me one second.

Sorry, give me one minute.

Okay, yep.

So the poll, the transformers right at the top of the polls the b the big the big gray box at the top of the poll.

Okay.

Um I'm not seeing that on this poll.

Um so maybe it I assume what looks like a transformer on on the next poll.

Um asuming I'm looking at the right ones here.

This is 33 or across from, yeah.

Um anyway, I I mean I guess it's uh let me ask a different question.

Um is is the for the granulocation that you're asking here, is the line um is the line gonna go will it also run at the poll or will it just go will what i is there an additional um riser, additional uh anything required to be added to the pole that other than what's already there?

Uh no, but anything that's that that would be added to the poll is already accounted for on the plan.

I'm not sure how to parse that.

Um the pole that we're talking about is across from looks like 15 17.

Um and so the the I'm trying to try to do justice to the constituent who or or the you know the the remember of the public that uh that raised the issue before that there we in the in our last discussion, uh my understanding is we were talking about a poll in front of 17, which is the um the pole that is appears to be one pole down from where the transformer sits.

Is that sound right?

Uh sorry, give me one second.

I'm just looking one second.

And the yeah, the the plan on screen seems to seem to confirm that so that's what I'm seeing on the street view.

If that's that's the poll, but I again this is this is the street view.

It's not like it's not a a picture of the poll that I've been sent, you know, by our engineering department.

So I I can't I can't say for sure that we're looking at the right poll on the street view.

Um yeah, I mean on the street view, it's pretty I yeah, uh what I'm looking at is pretty clearly right, the one that's directly in uh in the front corner of number 17 Warwick, which is as shown on the screen is the poll you're talking about.

There are two risers that go up it, but there's no transformer at the top.

Uh and now again, this is a couple years old.

So are it is it is it is your information that there now actually is a transformer on the top of that pole, despite this older picture maybe maybe not showing that.

Is that yeah?

So I I my information is that two of the risers go to a transformer.

Okay.

Um so end of the day, the the two the all of the gear that's there on that pole, those two risers and whatever goes above it, um, is is necessary, the one's a redundancy, and but you're not adding anything additional to it.

Is that correct?

It would be you would be able to I I assume you're bringing a line down the pole and then going across underneath the street.

Uh yeah, so the the conduit is being run underground.

Yep.

Right.

But is there is there anything additional being added to the pole to get the line down, or are you able to use the existing conduit, the existing no, no?

So we the two risers that are currently on there um that were discussed at the last meeting, they're they're both needed for for the primary line that feeds the transformer.

Okay.

So we we can't use one of them for the new conduit that we're running under the street because those both need to be available for the primary line.

Okay so so there will be a a new conduit added to the poll in addition to the two that are there already and then you'll go under the street.

Is that correct?

Okay.

And there's what what you're being told is there's there's there's no way to avoid that is it possible I mean I guess I mean looking at the poll here there it I won't make any judgment as to the uh you know the workmanship but it it it appears to be let's say less tidy than perhaps it might be is it possible to maybe I just I'm trying to do try to do justice to to uh you know the community member here that that was that was here last time and that was willing to uh um you know we just want to sort of understand what was going on um and I I could certainly understand that there's a lot going on on that poll already and I can see where someone might you know um at least want to understand it so can can I just make the request that to to whatever extent you know what's there can be can be cleaned up it looks like there may well be some abandoned lines I see uh again this is a 2004 picture so it may not be accurate or it may not be up to date but um can I can I make that request that that be you know tidied up to the fullest extent reasonably possible as as this work's being done yeah so I mean so anything that's on the poll that we own is is needed for the primary line.

I can't speak to anything that's potentially been abandoned by any other and any other companies but the the risers that we have on there are being used for primary.

Okay so again we get to the problem of not my problem somebody else's problem and we all stand around a circle pointing fingers at each other and I this is no knock on you personally but if you can understand the frustration this comes from I've got a constituent who's got a poll that which frankly looks like a kind of a mess um we have these all over the all over the city and no one wants to kind of no one wants to take responsibility for cleaning them up and and there's always a good there's always a good argument there's already good always good legal explanation that well we don't know who's this isn't it's not ours we don't know you know at the end of the day basically the buck stops nowhere so you know I I guess I I'd like some confirmation that this can be cleaned up a bit you know I I know I'm kind of nitpicking here but um I I agree with this constituent that it's a lot there's a big construction project that was that you know uh a few at least a few years ago was happening down the end of the road which by the way does appear where the where the transformer actually is or was back in 2024 uh maybe it's been moved up the street um but you know it doesn't seem to me unreasonable to if we're gonna if we're gonna you know grant the the approval to uh to go under the street here um to uh uh to access whatever's happening across the street that um we you know condition that on this poll being tidied up uh to the fullest extent possible so um i um madam chair through you to the clerk is that uh a condition we can add to the uh approval in some way without getting ourselves in hot water uh through the chair i it seems like it would be a condition based on uh whatever ever source itself directly controls um to the extent that it's not ever source property i don't uh I don't believe that we would be able to condition that license on this and and remember this is a uh this is for underground um conduit not for any additional uh work to be done on the pole is my understanding through you madam chair yeah uh thank you for that uh miss clerk yeah I mean I I understand that but the the you know the the very directly related point is that the line needs to come down this pole and um and then go across the street and this constituent who will have construction happening in front of their house and a and a trench dug in a patch across our street is asking if the pole can be tidied up so you know I guess I'd like to make that that that request to the to the you know to the extent that we are able to that that be part of it um and if you know if if we need to circle back on that to get the right right wording before tomorrow night I'm happy to have a conversation tomorrow.

I just um I I don't feel good about just uh allowing the buck to continue to be continue to be passed on on polls that that just have become a uh uh you know that this is honestly that this is not even the worst one I've seen um but you know that to whatever extent that there's uh you know ever source has the ability and and and the authority to you know to uh address what's going on in the poll there I I'd like I'd like them to do so and through the chair I do believe there is precedent for conditions such as that um leaving a work site clean as a condition of issuing the license um so uh the chair would add that as a condition when this is voted on uh for recommendation okay so I to the extent you need a motion then so moved okay thank you um counselor Wheeler did you want to

And through the chair, I do believe there is precedent for conditions such as that um leaving a work site clean as a condition of issuing the license.

Um so uh the chair would add that as a condition when this is voted on uh for recommendation.

Okay.

So I to the extent you need a motion, then so moved.

Okay.

Thank you.

Um Counselor Wheeler, did you want to speak as well?

Oh, you're muted.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Uh yes, there's a lot of background that I am picking up in bits and pieces uh about some of these terms.

Um I appreciate the conversation so far.

Uh something that uh that I'm understanding from this conversation is that in order to supply power or you know, to supply power in the desired way to 16 Warwick, uh, as um Ms.

Cooper and Counselor Davis were just discussing, um, EverSource would like to run power in a new riser uh added to the poll down the pole from the transformer to the ground, then also dig a trench across, lay that wire across and and refill it.

And uh I am also hearing it, I I was at the meeting where that a butter um was concerned, although I didn't understand exactly what the concerns were at the time.

Uh I'm surmising that some of the concerns are about the disruption and about the resulting state.

So I appreciate uh Clerk Potir, um you're pointing out that the condition of leaving the work site clean uh could be attached.

Um I'm not quite sure if that addresses the concern.

Uh I think there could be say an additional bulky riser added uh that the butter might find you know incrementally reduces the view or is unsightly in addition to the you know possibly already unsightly uh hodgepodge uh riser that may or may not be current um that I have also seen uh on this street view image.

Um so I uh I'm just wondering if instead of just adding uh a condition of the work site being clean, um if it's either possible to add a condition that the um the risers be um it it be insured that all of the risers are um are up to current standards.

Um I'm trying to search for other wording that might um might you know lead us to a reasonable place of saying, hey, um if this is if things are already in good shape, we're not saying tear them down and redo them as they are.

But um, but if the state is this kind of hodgepodge that I'm seeing of one pipe um ending and another pipe that's not quite aligned with the beginning, um is it possible in the course of work like this to, you know, I I've seen different kinds of risers on polls to do one that could envelop and include the existing uh existing riser wiring and this new riser wiring.

Thank you, Counselor Wheeler.

Ms.

Cooper, do you have um any comments?

Um so I would be I would be happy to to bring up any of these concerns or or send them over to to Jackie to have her address with um the engineering and construction department um and address if if any of these concerns are a possibility or um get more clarity on what we can potentially do to assuage the um the concerns about the risers on the poll, like I'd be happy to forward those over.

Thank you.

And and and just for context, also echoing what uh counselor Davis said, I am also not seeking to nitpick, but I do know that when there's a a need to do particular work, that often is an opportunity to say, hey, can we can we take this chance to give a little extra attention to what the state of this poll is?

Or you know what whatever combination of of owners these polls have.

And I know that's complicated.

It'll only be trickier uh when there's not this this plan or this need.

Thank you.

Okay.

I would love to hear uh excuse me.

Clerk HoT or could you um state again what you think the um condition could be and if counselor wheeler's concerns could be incorporated.

Through the chair the condition that I have seen is related to um you know work site conditions um to the extent that there is a change to the construction plans themselves um those might need to be redrawn and resubmitted to engineering for review to the extent that the request being made here does fundamentally alter what was previously submitted and approved by city staff.

So I would just be careful of that that what we have approved by staff is what we're showing you on the screen.

And so if that needs to be changed I would uh then that would likely require a new submission of uh plans and a cover letter okay thank you um did you have okay go ahead counselor Wheeler thanks um I just want to to suggest uh this could be something as well where uh uh a further discussion with the abutter explaining what we've learned um could lead to their saying they're okay with it uh my my sense from uh some of what the abutter said uh in December at the city council meeting um was that a lot of the concern came from confusion and not being quite sure what this work might involve.

So it it may be that um you know short we could uh find a path forward short of saying you know this work needs to be resubmitted or redone to say um maybe it could make sense to uh to hold off on approving this um long enough to at least give us a chance to speak to the abutter and um and see if the understanding that we've gotten addresses their concerns and I I don't know what the context is of you know if this is a power conduit that's necessary for someone to move in you know I I want to make sure we're balancing things I'm not trying to introduce onerous um delays absolutely my understanding from the last meeting is that it's to an accessory dwelling unit and that the work would not be able to be completed right now in the winter um that it would be a project uh that ever source would carry out in April um so it uh miss cooper please correct me if if that's mistaken um but that was my understanding that there's no immediate time pressure um um I'm not uh if that's what was discussed in the last meeting and and Jackie had that information I'm confident that she had the correct information okay thank you um clerk bautier and would it be possible to keep it in committee and reach out to the abutter who spoke uh through the chair that would be a possibility um I would only say that if that might change the overall outcome um that would be the reason that you would keep this in committee if there's a chance that what that abutter said might change your mind otherwise to keep this in committee would require keeping it on the agenda and asking every source to come back to another meeting um which is of course well within your discretion I just wanted to raise those two um options uh for the committee okay thank you that's helpful um yes counselor davis um madam chair so that thank you for that discussion and for those questions and and thank you to the clerk for uh for those for that clarification I I didn't want to put throw out another option I mean what the the council meeting question is tomorrow night so we don't have our usual you know well it's a week it's a few days people we can circle back um but uh another possible avenue would be to um recommend this out of committee uh to send it uh out of committee voted out of committee without a recommendation um that way it would be before the council if um you know someone's able to reach the uh the abutter tomorrow and kind of talk through it and say hey we can we can always send it then send it back to committee wouldn't delay it

I mean the the council meeting question is tomorrow night.

So we don't have our usual, you know, well, it's a week, it's a few days, people we can circle back.

Um but uh another possible avenue would be to um recommend this out of committee uh to send it uh out of committee, vote or out of committee without a recommendation.

Um that way it would be before the council if um you know someone's able to reach the uh the abutter tomorrow and kind of talk through it and say, hey, we can we could always send it, then send it back to committee, wouldn't delay it in any you know any way at all because it would be back for our next license permits meeting.

But if we were all ship shape, then the council could, if they if it was the will of the body, um, you know, vote to approve it tomorrow, and or add conditions or what or whatever else, that would give us the the most flexibility.

If we didn't do that, then technically we we couldn't pull it out of a committee because we we would have needed to um well actually we we may be beyond the uh there may be a time that maybe a little wrinkle on that role, but let's let's let's set the complexities aside for the moment because the general best practices if we think we might want to take something up at the council level um or at least have the option to we then we the best thing to do would be to to um uh to vote it out of committee without a recommendation.

And I and I I I I have a I have a good sense that the president of the council might be perfectly willing to have a conversation about it.

Um I I'll put a good word in on that.

I think we'll be able to excellent, excellent.

Thank you, Councilor Davis.

Uh President Davis for that suggestion.

Um there any other comments on this for I like that idea.

Is there do we need a motion?

So Mount Chair, I I think uh just just for the clarity of the record.

Um, if it wasn't if it wasn't implicit, I I you know uh uh I I will consider my having said so moved earlier on an amendment as being a uh offer uh uh a request for discussion on it uh rather than an actual motion.

So um uh we'll we'll um you would be correct in you would be perfectly uh okay in in uh interpreting that as not having been a formal motion by me.

Um I will move that we um uh refer this out of committee without recommendation um so that it's uh you know could potentially be discussed tomorrow night at the city council meeting and we would need a vote on that excellent okay well I think we need to vote on that Mr.

Clark, Mr.

Clark, right?

I do believe there would need to be a vote.

I would take one just out of an abundance of caution.

And Clerk Potier, uh given that there's a motion right now, should we vote on this?

Or Madam Chair through you I could call roll on this item now, yes.

Okay, let's do that.

All right, on item three, idea number 25-1754.

The motion on the table is to refer this to the city council without recommendation on this councillor Davis.

Yes, counselor wheeler, yes, Chair Hart, yes.

This is uh will be recommended to the full city council um without a recommendation.

Okay, thank you so much.

And thank you again, Miss Cooper.

Thank you for coming.

Thank you so much.

Appreciate it.

Okay, that brings us to the end of our agenda.

Um but we still need to, I believe, vote on approving the minutes and on the recommendation for the new used car dealer license.

Through the chair, we do have two more um votes that we can take.

We can take the tabled uh agenda items, um, the minutes and the um license for the used car dealer, and then there would be another roll call vote on adjournment.

Excellent.

I would be happy to call the roll on the uh substantive items.

The first is the committee minutes uh from the meeting on December 10th.

The vote here would be to accept those minutes, and the second would be on the uh license application for the used car dealer item number, uh item number 2.1 ID 251702.

On those two items, counselor Davis.

Yes, counselor Wheeler, yes, Chair Hart, yes, those items are accepted and recommended for approval.

Excellent.

Thank you.

And on adjournment.

Someone wants to make a motion to adjourn.

Make a motion to adjourn.

On adjournment, counselor Davis.

Yes, counselor Wheeler, yes, Chair Hart, yes.

Thank you very much, everyone.

We are adjourned.

Thank you.

Thanks all.

Thank you, Chair Hart.

Good night.