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Somerville City Council Licenses and Permits Committee Meeting - March 26, 2026

Meeting PortalThursday, March 26, 2026
BodySomerville, Massachusetts
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DateThursday, March 26, 2026
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0:03

Hello, good evening.

0:04

Welcome to the March 25th, 2026 meeting of the licenses and permits committee of the Somerville City Council.

0:12

I'm Emily Hart, Ward 7 City Councillor.

0:17

And we're joined tonight by Clerk Michael Potier.

0:22

And actually, Clerk Potier, could you scroll down on the agenda so I can read the statement?

0:29

Thank you so much.

0:31

Pursuant to chapter two of the Acts of 2025, this meeting of the City Council Committee will be conducted via remote participation.

0:38

We will post an audio recording, audio video recording, transcript, or other comprehensive record of these proceedings as soon as possible after the meeting on the City of Somerville website and local cable access government channels.

0:50

And if Clerk Potier, if you could call the roll.

0:54

Absolutely.

0:55

Counselor Davis.

0:56

Here.

0:57

Councillor Wheeler.

0:59

Here.

1:00

Chair Hart.

1:02

Here.

1:02

You have a quorum.

1:04

Wonderful.

1:05

Thank you so much.

1:07

The first item on the agenda is approval of the minutes of the licenses and permits committee of March 11th, 2026.

1:16

Any discussion or questions on that?

1:19

Move to approve.

1:21

Great.

1:22

Thank you.

1:23

We will lay that on the table for the end of the meeting for a roll call vote.

1:28

The second item on the agenda is a grant of location.

1:32

Ever source applying for a grant of location to install six feet of conduit in line street from utility poll to 11 over 7 to a point of pickup at 62 line street.

1:44

Is there anyone here to speak on this item?

1:46

Through the chair, I do see the applicant.

1:50

You are unmuted on our end.

1:52

Great.

1:52

Hi, how are you tonight?

1:54

It's Jack and Duffy.

1:55

I'm good, thank you.

1:57

Um, so this was tabled because of the double poll 20 to 11 over six.

2:03

And uh Verizon of RCN is the next one to come off of that.

2:08

So it is in engines.

2:10

That's the system that we have with all the other utilities.

2:13

So RCN is the next one to come off.

2:16

Okay, thank you, Miss Duffy so much.

2:19

And um, and I appreciate that information that you provided at RCM was the next one.

2:24

I did, I was able to connect with RCN and they have confirmed that they have moved those lines.

2:29

Excellent.

2:30

Yes.

2:31

So it is um as far as I know, ready to go ahead and be, you know, to have the double poll removed.

2:39

Okay, I'll send someone out there tomorrow to look double check.

2:43

Wonderful.

2:43

Thank you so much.

2:44

Perfect.

2:45

Yep.

2:45

Great.

2:46

And I just want to take a moment to look at and and let others look at the um description here for this this application.

2:56

Um yes, counselor Davis.

2:59

Thank you, Madam Chair.

3:00

Um, through you to Ms.

3:01

Duffy.

3:02

Um hi Jackie, thanks for um for checking in on that.

3:06

Um can you remind us that the way the list works?

3:09

Um do I recall correctly that like there might be several different companies that have lines on the polls and when you so when you say they're the next meeting, once they're gone, there might be someone.

3:19

It might be cable, TV, and then Verizon.

3:21

So that's why I'm gonna send someone out there tomorrow.

3:24

Okay, so the only way to check that is actually looking at the poll as opposed to I thought I remembered that there was a list that had like there is a list, but I just want to make sure because I know this is a hot item.

3:33

So I'll see if one of the overhead guys can go out for me tomorrow.

3:38

Okay.

3:40

And let me actually, madam chair, if I may, um, one more question through you to Ms.

3:43

Duffy.

3:44

Um forgive me, because I I'm pretty sure you explained this to this committee.

3:52

Um or something that I was sitting on what many months ago.

3:56

Um, so obviously not with our other two members here, but like how do we see that list?

4:01

Where is like can you remind me where that lives?

4:03

Is it just through the when it's submitted to the to the council?

4:06

Does it live somewhere else that's I think I think you guys have access to it?

4:10

Okay.

4:11

I'll I'll find that out tomorrow too.

4:13

And I can send you an email lands tomorrow.

4:16

If if you wouldn't, if you wouldn't mind, send it through the clerk's office just so that all members of the committee can uh oh sure.

4:21

Yep, I'll find out first thing in the morning.

4:23

That would be awesome.

4:24

Thank you.

4:24

Oh yeah, I'm gonna be busy tomorrow.

4:27

And Miss Duffy, to clarify, that's the engines um database.

4:32

Correct.

4:32

It's N N J U N S.

4:35

Yes.

4:36

Um and that would be that would be great to find out.

4:40

I have looked at it as um and not found a way to get access, but perhaps the city.

4:46

I have not checked with the clerk's office to see if we as a city um have access to that.

4:52

So that's a great question.

4:55

I I don't want to give you a wrong answer, so I don't know, so I will find out.

4:59

I appreciate that.

5:00

Thank you very much.

5:04

So the requests from Counselor Scott on this at the meeting or the you know the concern was about this double poll.

5:15

So I really appreciate that this is moving swiftly towards being resolved.

5:21

Um I would make a motion to condition the grant of location on the double poll being fixed.

5:30

Um if there's any discussion on that motion.

5:40

Yes, Counselor Davis.

5:42

Thank you, Madam Chair.

5:43

Um just for for everyone's reference um to Clerk Potier, um, can you uh if you are able to, can you comment as to uh or to confirm that um that would be an appropriate condition for us to put on the granted location through the chair, Michael Potier, assistant city clerk.

6:02

Uh my understanding is that um conditions that are reasonably related to the application are typically okay.

6:10

Um beyond that, though, I would recommend seeking an opinion from the law department um to the extent there's any doubt by members of this committee.

6:22

Thank you.

6:24

If I may follow up, Madam Chair, and and please not sure if you if you've looked into this, then but by all means please correct me if I'm or or step in.

6:33

Is that um so first off, is that have you had any conversations as to whether that's you know, like with the law department, whether that's appropriate.

6:41

And I guess a related question would be this may already have been answered, but is it is this the poll we're talking about that's a double poll, or is it other double polls on that street that are down the oh sorry, it's Jackie.

6:53

Um it's it's poll two eleven two eleven over six.

6:58

So it's not this exact poll.

7:00

It's not the poll we're coming off of, no.

7:02

It's the one next to it.

7:04

Yep, it's down the street just a little bit.

7:07

Yeah, yeah.

7:08

Madam Chair, I I'm I'm inclined to to you know to to move forward and then you know, if the law department could, if we could put a request to law department to just let us know before tomorrow if that's a uh something they have concerns with otherwise.

7:20

Um sounds like you know, again, I appreciate Ms.

7:22

Duffy.

7:23

Um uh following up on the question and and sounds like that's in the works.

7:27

Um happy to go forward with as you proposed, uh just subject to the law department letting us know.

7:33

I don't want to.

7:34

Can I interrupt one?

7:35

Can I interrupt one second?

7:36

You can see 211 over six right below the number 56.

7:40

Can you see it?

7:41

I just said to hit the thing.

7:43

See you right there.

7:44

That's that's the poll in question.

7:48

Great.

7:49

Thank you.

7:50

Yes, I'd be happy to check with the law department on this tomorrow.

7:55

Um that sounds like a reasonable way to go to me.

7:59

Um, my understanding is that there is some uh, you know, that it's not a there's not hard and fast um guidance here.

8:12

Um so I'd be happy to check tomorrow.

8:19

So Clerk Potier, would is there any other discussion or questions?

8:25

Madam Chair, through you, you could call a within your discretion, you could um have a roll call vote on the condition pending review by the law department um for the meeting tomorrow and then a second roll call vote on the item itself, if you'd like.

8:40

That sounds great.

8:41

Let's do that.

8:43

This is a roll call vote on the condition uh for this item um on approval to remove um or fix the double poll pending review by the law department.

8:55

Counselor Davis.

8:57

Yes, counselor Wheeler, yes, Chair Hart.

9:02

Yes.

9:03

And on the item itself, 26-0311.

9:07

Counselor Davis.

9:10

Yes, Counselor Wheeler.

9:13

Yes, Chair Hart.

9:16

Yes.

9:17

With three in favor, that is recommended to be approved.

9:21

Great.

9:22

Thank you.

9:23

All right.

9:24

Uh the next item on the agenda number three is uh grant of location, Ever source applying for grant of location to install five feet of conduit in Heath Street from utility poll 165 over 13 to a point of pickup at 16 Edgar Avenue.

9:40

Um, so the so I was the one that wanted this to come to the committee.

9:45

Um because this is uh in the neighborhood of the Healy elementary school and where my daughter goes to school.

9:55

So I'm very familiar with the difficulties of school drop-off for pedestrians, for drivers.

10:03

Um this is the main, this is like one of two only two ways in and out of the school.

10:10

So at drop off, it's really a choke point.

10:13

And right now the entire length of Edgar is blocked off for other utility work.

10:21

Um so I just wanted to be sure that this wasn't going to add to that.

10:25

I just wanted a chance to um investigate that a little bit.

10:29

So my understanding is that engineering will be coordinating to make sure that there are no conflicts.

10:35

Um so I'm fine approving this with no condition, but Miss Duffy, if you know if there's any way to not have this work happen between you know eight and nine in the morning.

10:46

So that's fine.

10:47

The work is going to be on going to be on Heath Street.

10:51

That's where the poll just coming off.

10:53

But we can do it in between the school um drop off pickup.

10:56

I mean, you can do nine to three if you want.

10:58

I don't know what time the kids get out of school in some of them.

11:02

Yes, this the uh the end of the day is not as much of a choke point because kids leave at different times with you know school programs.

11:10

It's really that morning kind of rush hour.

11:13

Um, and Heath Street is you know coming right into Edgar.

11:17

It's one of the it's just part of that whole thing.

11:21

So like I said, not a condition, but um just a request.

11:25

If it could, yeah, not start until 8 30 or 9.

11:28

That would be 8 30 and 9, that's perfect.

11:31

Thank you.

11:32

Any discussion or questions from you uh counselors other than yes, counselor Davis.

11:38

Thank you, Mount Chair.

11:39

Um, through you to Ms.

11:39

Duffy, I guess just a practical question.

11:41

That does Jackie that does it help if we put a condition on here, just so that any of the paper paper that everyone's looking at has that reminder, or is that I only ask because otherwise I no, that's perfect.

11:52

Make sure it's followed.

11:53

No, no, no, that's perfect.

11:55

You can put that on there, absolutely.

11:58

Okay, great.

11:59

Wonderful.

12:01

All right, counselor Davis, would you like to make the motion?

12:04

So moved.

12:06

However, it was that you phrase it from in terms of the timing that's necessary, then uh I'd I hereby make that motion.

12:12

Okay, great.

12:14

Chair Hart through you, just for clarity of the record.

12:16

Would you mind stating that time frame one more time so I have it accurate for the roll call vote?

12:20

Sure.

12:21

How about beginning after 8 30 a.m.

12:25

Thank you, madam chair, and uh an outer boundary of the time frame?

12:29

I don't recall.

12:31

Uh there's no there's no um outer boundary.

12:35

Understood.

12:36

Just the condition will be to uh begin the work after 8 30 a.m.

12:40

Okay.

12:41

Roll call vote on the condition for this item to have work begin after 8 30 a.m.

12:47

Counselor Davis.

12:48

Yes, counselor Wheeler.

12:51

Yes, Chair Hart.

12:53

Yes.

12:54

This condition is recommended to be approved and on the item itself 26-0308.

13:00

Counselor Davis.

13:02

Yes, counselor Wheeler.

13:04

Yes, Chair Hart.

13:06

Yes.

13:07

This item is recommended to be approved.

13:10

Thank you.

13:11

Thank you, Miss Duffy.

13:13

Appreciate it.

13:14

Um thank you.

13:17

Um, I think then the only thing left for us to do is to vote on the approval of the minutes.

13:22

Um through the chair, that is correct.

13:25

The minutes were laid on the table.

13:27

Um on acceptance of the minutes, counselor Davis.

13:30

Yes.

13:31

Counselor Wheeler.

13:32

Yes.

13:33

Chair Hart.

13:34

Yes.

13:35

Those minutes are accepted.

13:38

Move to adjourn.

13:42

Motion to adjourn.

13:43

Thank you, Counselor Davis.

13:45

On adjournment, Counselor Davis.

13:47

Yes.

13:48

Counselor Wheeler.

13:49

Yes.

13:50

Chair Hart.

13:51

Yes.

13:52

Thank you all.

13:53

This committee is adjourned.

13:55

Thanks all.

13:55

Good night.

13:57

Thank you all.

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Summary of Proceedings

Somerville City Council Licenses and Permits Committee Meeting - March 26, 2026

Note: The meeting minutes and transcript indicate the meeting occurred on March 25, 2026 at 6:00 PM, but the instruction requires using March 26, 2026. This summary reflects the instruction's date, but the actual meeting date is March 25, 2026.

The meeting was called to order by Chair Hardt at 6:00 PM and adjourned at 6:14 PM. All three members (Councilors Davis, Wheeler, Hardt) were present. The committee considered two Eversource grant of location applications and approved the previous meeting's minutes.

Consent Calendar

  • Approval of Minutes (March 11, 2026): The minutes of the previous Licenses and Permits Committee meeting were accepted unanimously by roll call vote (3-0).

Discussion Items

  • Eversource Grant of Location – Line Street (ID # 26-0311): The applicant, Jacqueline Duffy representing Eversource, requested approval to install 6 feet of conduit on Line Street from Utility Pole 211/7 to a point of pickup at 62 Line Street. The item had been tabled due to a double-pole (211/6) adjacent to the subject pole. Ms. Duffy explained that RCN was next on the NJUNS list to remove wires from pole 211/6, but Chair Hardt confirmed RCN had already removed those lines. Councilor Davis asked about the NJUNS list and whether the city had access to it; Ms. Duffy agreed to check and provide information. Chair Hardt moved to condition the license on the removal of pole 211/6, pending review by the Law Department. The condition was approved by roll call (3-0), and the grant of location itself was also recommended for approval with conditions (3-0).

  • Eversource Grant of Location – Heath Street (ID # 26-0308): The applicant requested approval to install 5 feet of conduit on Heath Street from Utility Pole 165/13 to a point of pickup at 16 Edgar Avenue. Chair Hardt noted the location is near Healy Elementary School and raised concerns about morning drop-off traffic. Ms. Duffy agreed to restrict work to start after 8:30 AM. Chair Hardt moved to condition the license accordingly. The condition was approved by roll call (3-0), and the grant of location itself was recommended for approval with conditions (3-0).

Key Outcomes

  • Minutes of March 11, 2026: Accepted (3-0).
  • Line Street Grant of Location (26-0311): Recommended to be approved with condition that pole 211/6 be removed, pending Law Department review. Roll call vote: 3 in favor (Davis, Wheeler, Hardt), 0 opposed.
  • Heath Street Grant of Location (26-0308): Recommended to be approved with condition that construction begin after 8:30 AM. Roll call vote: 3 in favor (Davis, Wheeler, Hardt), 0 opposed.
  • Next Steps: The Law Department will review the condition on the Line Street item; the City Clerk's office will be contacted regarding access to the NJUNS list.

Meeting Transcript

Hello, good evening. Welcome to the March 25th, 2026 meeting of the licenses and permits committee of the Somerville City Council. I'm Emily Hart, Ward 7 City Councillor. And we're joined tonight by Clerk Michael Potier. And actually, Clerk Potier, could you scroll down on the agenda so I can read the statement? Thank you so much. Pursuant to chapter two of the Acts of 2025, this meeting of the City Council Committee will be conducted via remote participation. We will post an audio recording, audio video recording, transcript, or other comprehensive record of these proceedings as soon as possible after the meeting on the City of Somerville website and local cable access government channels. And if Clerk Potier, if you could call the roll. Absolutely. Counselor Davis. Here. Councillor Wheeler. Here. Chair Hart. Here. You have a quorum. Wonderful. Thank you so much. The first item on the agenda is approval of the minutes of the licenses and permits committee of March 11th, 2026. Any discussion or questions on that? Move to approve. Great. Thank you. We will lay that on the table for the end of the meeting for a roll call vote. The second item on the agenda is a grant of location. Ever source applying for a grant of location to install six feet of conduit in line street from utility poll to 11 over 7 to a point of pickup at 62 line street. Is there anyone here to speak on this item? Through the chair, I do see the applicant. You are unmuted on our end. Great. Hi, how are you tonight? It's Jack and Duffy. I'm good, thank you. Um, so this was tabled because of the double poll 20 to 11 over six. And uh Verizon of RCN is the next one to come off of that. So it is in engines. That's the system that we have with all the other utilities. So RCN is the next one to come off. Okay, thank you, Miss Duffy so much. And um, and I appreciate that information that you provided at RCM was the next one. I did, I was able to connect with RCN and they have confirmed that they have moved those lines. Excellent. Yes. So it is um as far as I know, ready to go ahead and be, you know, to have the double poll removed. Okay, I'll send someone out there tomorrow to look double check. Wonderful. Thank you so much. Perfect. Yep.

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