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Somerville City Council Public Health and Public Safety Committee Meeting – July 2, 2026

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0:02

All right, now declare this meeting of the public health and safety meeting in order.

0:05

Please note pursuant to an act.

0:08

We will record all this information and put it on the city website.

0:11

Clerk, please call the role.

0:20

All right.

0:21

This Council Swiss.

0:25

Councilor Klingon.

0:27

Chair McLaughlin.

0:29

Yeah.

0:29

All right.

0:30

With that, we have two members present.

0:31

So we do have quorum and it is 6 33.

0:33

All right.

0:34

Please note that Council Strezzo is chairing her own committee meeting right now.

0:37

She may uh re uh meet us later.

0:40

Uh let me see if we see if Council Said is in the audience.

0:47

And if she is, could we upgrade her to a panelist so that she can discuss this item with us?

1:03

Do you see that, Madam Clerk?

1:05

Yep, I just upgrade her.

1:06

It looks like there are two of her.

1:08

Um, but I upgraded both of them.

1:11

One is enough.

1:13

Um yes, thank you.

1:14

Could you read the first item?

1:19

Yes, and we want it.

1:20

Do we want to take up the minutes first or the one that you mentioned?

1:23

Okay.

1:24

We'll take out the minutes first.

1:25

All right.

1:25

Um, item number one, ID number 25-1709, approval of the minutes of the public health and public safety committee meeting of October 30th, 2025.

1:35

Seeing no discussion, those minutes are approved.

1:44

And did you want to do the vote altogether at the end or do that now?

1:48

Yeah, I'll lay it on the table for approval.

1:49

Thank you.

1:50

Okay, perfect.

1:51

Um, so next one, uh, next minutes.

1:55

Yes, we'll lay that on the table for approval as well.

1:58

No discussion.

1:59

Unless there's discussion, which I don't see any.

2:02

Okay, so that's um just to read into the record.

2:04

Um, item number two, ID number 25-1855.

2:08

Approval of the minutes of the rodent issues special committee meeting of December 1st, 2025.

2:14

Any discussion?

2:16

RIP Rhodent Commission.

2:17

Seeing none, those minutes are laid on the table for approval.

2:30

And so this item right here, item number four is the one we want to take up next.

2:33

Yes, please.

2:35

Great.

2:35

Item number four.

2:36

Oh.

2:38

Sorry, did someone say something?

2:40

Yeah, I think someone's unmuted.

2:41

Everyone, please mute yourselves if you're not speaking.

2:45

All right, item number four, ID number 26-0972 sent for discussion by Councillor Said, McLaughlin and Bach that the administration address the ongoing public health and safety concerns at the Broadway Salvation Army site.

2:59

All right, uh, Councilor Said, would you like to open up with this one?

3:04

Sure.

3:06

Uh oh.

3:07

There's two of you, as an echo.

3:10

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

3:23

Um I think the issue is is that you might have the site open on two separate pages, uh, because we got a little echo, but I can speak to this uh while you figure that out because I'm aware.

3:42

Oh, there we go.

3:43

Now there you go.

3:44

Go ahead.

3:44

Uh thank you uh through the chair.

3:46

We appreciate you uh recognizing me.

3:49

Um yes, I would like to uh introduce this item.

3:54

Um so we have said this during the council meeting when I introduced uh when uh I submitted this item.

4:00

Um multiple constituents have reached out to me.

4:03

Some have reached out to both myself and counselor McLaughlin about the situation at the Salvation Army.

4:10

I know the situation has been going on for a few years, and SPD has intervened um a few times.

4:18

It's just lately this is becoming real public health and safety um issue.

4:24

Uh the this area is becoming overnight gathering um gathering plays.

4:30

Uh there are ongoing issues involving loud arguments in the middle of the night.

4:35

There are fights happening, there's public drinking, public urination.

4:40

On the this is a lot of these also are happening.

4:47

Um driveways, there are butters to this um to the salvation army, they're dealing with this.

4:56

And there's also theft.

4:58

There's organized resale of donated goods.

5:02

So apparently from whatters have observed is that these are this it's the same folks who are coming every night, removing goods that are intended for residency need and taking them and selling them somewhere else.

5:17

Yeah, it's the same vehicles that are you know coming.

5:20

So clearly this is getting out of control now.

5:25

And uh I appreciate Chief Burnford uh who has been trying to look into this.

5:31

And um I understand that this area, the front is in Somerville, the back is in Medford.

5:38

We can talk about that.

5:40

Um they would like us to um so a lot of these uh things were shared with me and um with maybe the chair of uh maybe with Costa McLaughlin as well.

5:52

They would like us to have this discussion uh here in committee and have a chance to ask questions and come up with a plan.

6:02

Thank you.

6:02

Are there any uh representatives from the city who are prepared to speak on this?

6:12

Sorry, uh I'm on my phone because my computer's not working.

6:15

So I see uh Chief Donovan, Deputy Chief Donovan.

6:19

Um, if you would like to speak, you have the floor.

6:22

Yes, uh Counselor uh James, uh Deputy Chief James Donovan speaking on behalf of the police department.

6:27

I'm sorry, my I don't know if you can see my video.

6:29

I have it on, but I'm not showing it on my computer.

6:32

So I apologize uh if you cannot see my face tonight.

6:36

Um then that noise uh earlier when you guys were reading the minutes was my son's screaming because he wants um Senegal to lose tonight to Belgium.

6:46

So he I had a quiet down.

6:48

Um but uh as as for as for uh through the chair uh to the council say yeah, we we we got the communication.

6:55

We had this problem uh last year, uh similar problem.

6:59

It's not it, you know.

7:00

Interestingly enough, I spoke with the representatives at the Salvation Army.

7:04

It's not necessarily um all theft.

7:08

A lot of it's dumping, illegal dumping.

7:10

Um people are doing house cleanouts, and they think that people are just dumping the things they can't sell at the Salvation Army.

7:17

So I think it's a combination of of some theft, uh, but also a lot of dumping too, which which draws which draws a lot of people as well.

7:24

Um, interestingly enough, last Wednesday night, I was driving home from my son's basketball game in East Somerville, and I caught people in there.

7:33

So I I reached out to the PD and the supervisor came down.

7:36

We identified the people that were in there and just put them on notice that they can't be there.

7:40

Uh, we have, you know, as of last year, I met with the district manager, uh, Mr.

7:44

Tierney, and made some um you know environmental suggestions that may help us.

7:49

Um, you know, as far as the police department goes, like this is this is a multifaceted problem.

7:53

It's not just a police problem.

7:55

Um, there's an ISD issue here and and other things, but um, you know, we we we spoke uh last last year, and I said, you know, if you if you had cameras there, we can't we can only be there so much.

8:06

And I said if you had installed cameras, it may help us identify the the theft and the dumping um using you know license plates and so forth, and maybe catch the people that are doing it.

8:16

And you know, if we can take a big bite out of that, maybe word will spread.

8:20

At the time, he thought that was a great idea.

8:22

Um, you know, we walked away and we had didn't have any complaints.

8:24

We had director patrol there at the time.

8:27

Um, you know, so you know, but then this popped up again again this year in June and June and in July.

8:33

And I you think of a lot of it as someone had mentioned moving season, you know, June is moving season for the students, June, May and June, and that's where they got a lot of dumping there.

8:41

Um, so I reached out to the Mr.

8:44

Tierney again, but apparently Mr.

8:45

Tierney has since retired.

8:47

I spoke to Stanley Weens, he's now the representative for um the area for Salvation Army.

8:53

Uh we are gonna meet.

8:54

We're gonna set up a meeting between um myself and one of my um co-workers to see if we can address some of the dumping and the theft.

9:02

But I was a little frustrated talking to Mr.

9:04

Means today.

9:05

You know, I said, you know, this he's he's like, well, what can you do for me?

9:08

I said, well, you have to help yourself as well.

9:10

You know, this isn't you're you're on a business.

9:12

What are you going to do as a business owner to you know to assist us in helping you?

9:18

And he really didn't have much for me.

9:19

The cameras that I asked to be installed last year have never been installed.

9:22

He says he's asking corporate if they'll uh authorize the funds to do that.

9:27

I I get the um the territorial or the property problem they have.

9:32

There is a house in back that has an easement to access their house, so they can't close that gate altogether.

9:37

Um but they they could they could um you know do better with signage, they could do better with you know putting up some fencing there around their um their their donation box.

9:50

They could put better lighting out there that wouldn't necessarily bother the neighbors, but would light up light up the light like emotion lighting or lighting that comes on on a timer at night time.

10:00

Uh there are a lot of environmental things that I recommended that they they haven't undertaken yet.

10:02

So like I said, you know, we have done director patrol there.

10:05

We've done in the I ran the numbers today in the month of June alone.

10:08

We've been there 75 times for direct patrols.

10:11

And those are direct patrols only on the evening shifts and the overnights because during the day they're open and no one's doing dumping or theft.

10:17

It's happening after they close in the evening.

10:19

So our director patrols have been in the evenings and the overnight shifts.

10:23

Like I said, we've done 75 of them.

10:25

Uh on one of the 75, you know, it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

10:29

You know, we we go by, we drive to the parking lot, and and you know, you know, the officers are on notice, that's an important issue for the neighborhood.

10:36

But again, you know, we can go by a thousand times and we may get one person in there one time.

10:41

And that that did happen last week for me when I was driving by and called the supervisor down.

10:45

So as far as the police department goes, we have stepped up a patrols of the area.

10:50

Um I did contact the management again to see what they can do to help us.

10:55

Um, you know, as far as lighting goes, as far as cameras goes and so forth.

10:59

He was very amenable to having a meeting.

11:01

I think he's new in the position.

11:02

He said to Mr.

11:02

Chandy recently uh retired.

11:05

So you know, we are gonna set up a meeting.

11:07

If if the counselor or both councils aren't be involved, I can do that in the evenings.

11:10

It's convenient with you guys, or we can just have um, you know, representatives from the police department, maybe ISD attend a meeting with the management and try to come to a collaborative solution for this neighborhood problem.

11:23

But I would I wouldn't say if any of your your your your constituents call us, um, you know, have them call 911.

11:29

I know it's not a life or death emergency, but you know, if they call us on the business line, you know, it's gonna get treated as a business call.

11:36

And if they call 911, they're more likely to get an immediate response.

11:39

So I would encourage them because if they have people out there, we'd like to go out there identify them.

11:43

You know, if it's a repeat offender, if it's someone um, you know, who we deem necessary to make an arrest, we can make an arrest.

11:49

But it's a difficult place to make an arrest because there is uh the egress for that house back there.

11:55

So there is, you know, somewhat of a legal um ability for someone to access that parking lot.

12:02

So it's not necessarily private and quotation marks pri uh parking lot.

12:07

It is um a private, semi-private, but also you know, public access to the house back there.

12:12

So it is kind of a uh a sticky situation.

12:15

Sorry for my long-winded response.

12:17

I hope that was helpful.

12:19

Oh, thank you very much.

12:20

Uh is there any discussion from the committee?

12:25

And please just speak up because I can't see hands raised immediately.

12:32

Chair McLaughlin, I do have some questions.

12:34

If they may have the committee would like to ask questions first, they can wait.

12:40

Nope, go right ahead.

12:42

Uh yeah, so Chief Deputy Donovan, uh, thank you for looking into this and for um reaching out to this new management about uh the request to have cameras, like the and also I don't you haven't mentioned this, but it was communicated to me that also there's a conversation about potentially having someone stay after um they close to just during like right now, June, move out, see it move out in a month also in September.

13:21

Uh so that are any uh donations that are being dropped off after they close, there's someone there.

13:27

So I don't know if that's something uh that was officially discussed and um and if it's something you know they the Salvation Army uh is gonna look into um which definitely will help as you mentioned there's like theft, but there's also just people you know dropping off donations outside of um uh the hours when the business is open.

13:55

Um so I just wanted to check with you if this is something that the Salvation Army is entertaining at all.

14:05

Uh through the share to the council, yes.

14:08

Uh thank you for bringing that up.

14:09

That's one thing I forgot in my notes.

14:11

Um Mr.

14:11

Wens did say they have uh uh an employee that's staying after after the work hours.

14:16

Um obviously they can't stay there all night on the overnight, but they are staying there for a few hours after closing.

14:21

He also said that every morning they have a truck there to pick up what's been either dumped or don't donated.

14:27

You know, they don't take mattresses.

14:29

And the the the gentleman that I caught there uh last week was was dropping off a mattress.

14:34

It was clear he had done uh either a clean out or they're moving out of their apartment.

14:38

And they may they may have been there may have been good intentions there.

14:41

Uh they said they were donating things, but a lot of times, you know, it's good, it's a little little good intention, but a lot of getting rid of some stuff.

14:48

So um, but they are uh, you know, the the Salvation Army did say they were gonna have employees working uh later in the evenings after closing time to address it.

15:00

And they also have a truck there every morning, uh cleaning it up um after the overnight, after you all made donations or dumping.

15:04

Um, but it's I I don't believe they're open on Sunday, so there may be a little gap there.

15:08

Um I think you said there's a little gap there on Sundays into Mondays.

15:11

But yes, you are correct.

15:14

Uh thank you.

15:15

Thank you for adding that through the chair.

15:17

Um, I think that if they do that, that would definitely help.

15:22

Um because if there are no donations, you know, to be taken, people will not be uh these folks who are coming, you know, to take stuff and resell it.

15:33

We we'll have you know nothing that's attracting them to this location.

15:38

Um so yeah, we'll we'll see if they actually do that.

15:44

So thank you for following up with.

15:46

Yeah, if you could follow up with them, that would be great.

15:49

And uh yeah, having cameras, I think that's kind of the minimum.

15:53

I don't know.

15:55

I don't think here we have anyone from ISD, but is this something that I know this was a recommendation that was done that was uh communicated to Salvation Army a year ago, so it still hasn't happened.

16:09

Um and if we can keep you know pushing for this, uh again, this is becoming a public uh health um issue.

16:20

So um and um yeah, just looking at my notes here.

16:27

So it's good to know that that folks can call 911 because this is the same abutters, and um yeah, so ISD again, we don't have someone from ISD, so I don't know if anyone can speak to this.

16:44

Oh, I see um the liaison um tans up.

16:49

I understand that this location, I just want to say before um yeah, before Amanda can share with us uh ISD have um when ISD looked into this and what they can and can't do.

17:05

We understand that this is you know, right in the border, Somerville, Medford.

17:10

Um, but according to my constituents and what they shared, a lot of these, you know, a lot of these behaviors are also happening on Broadway, like this is in Somerville.

17:25

Yes, the donations and all that are in the back of the uh buildings, but you know, when they drag them all the way to the street and then having fights and all that.

17:35

Um, I guess this is not ISD, but that these donations are being dragged that are on the sidewalk, like I've seen sidewalk things on the sidewalk many times.

17:45

I'm not very far from this uh from this location, so if we can speak to that, um can speak.

17:55

Uh director or liaison uh Nadjon Williams.

17:59

Do you have a comment?

18:00

And what's your what title again?

18:03

Uh three, Mr.

18:04

Chair, Director Amanda Nadin Williams of Intergovernmental Affairs.

18:09

Um I am obviously not from our ISD team, but appreciate them for their efforts um to provide some of this update.

18:15

Um forgive me, I'm doing the a double team right now in two committees as you remembered.

18:20

So I just wanted to step out um to provide this update.

18:24

Um so our ISD team has in fact been in touch with the city of Medford's ISD team.

18:30

Um, I think one of the biggest things that they noted is that they anticipate some of this kind of increased activity and behavior around the moving season.

18:39

So that June 1st and September 1st is where they're anticipating to see this.

18:44

Um they have the city of Medford has gone out and they did issue a um uh a violation on earlier in June and now continuing to monitor that similarly to how we are addressing this this matter in Somerville.

18:59

They recognize that this involves collaboration with the health department, the Salvation Army Management, um, and the police.

19:07

Um so uh at least from our uh cross cross municipal lines.

19:12

I'm glad to see that there is a shared effort to address this as Counselor Said mentioned.

19:17

Um the area is predominantly um jurisdictionally in Medford.

19:25

So Somerville ISD does not have the ability to enforce and or ticket in those areas.

19:32

Um, but we have been doing our due diligence to at least continue to encourage the city of Medford and figure out what else we can do to help partner um to get this resolved.

19:42

Um and I think I might have heard uh the deputy chief speaking to the fact that the Salvation Army um noted that they did hire an individual to stay after hours until about 7:30 p.m.

19:54

when they close at 5 p.m.

19:55

But that a lot of the dropping off of the donations are happening after hours.

20:00

And of course, on you know a Sunday or a weekend can make it a little bit more challenging.

20:05

But that that is the update at least that I can share from ISD and from the administration that we recognize this is a an issue and we are trying to address it across in you know a couple different angles.

20:20

Thank you.

20:21

Any more questions, Council Side?

20:24

Uh through the chair, thank you, uh Director.

20:26

I appreciate uh you through Chat to ISD, and I'm glad to hear that Medford ISD are also on this.

20:33

Uh so hopefully this, you know, since the area where the donations are being uh dropped off are technically in Medford.

20:42

Um so I think right now I'm mostly satisfied with what I'm hearing.

20:49

Um, but you know, there's having a plan and they've uh making sure that there's a follow-up and these things actually happen, making sure the employee uh is there.

21:00

Um the fact that they're not there on Sunday and Monday, you know, that can that's an opportunity for you know this kind of behavior.

21:09

Um but uh we'll wait and see what happens there.

21:14

And um and uh in June and also after in September, um, especially the first few weeks in September.

21:24

I think having ISD dual directed patrol is going to be helpful, uh, making sure these are you know they're there uh regularly.

21:35

Um, so that you know this, you know, we're not you know, because once folks know this is a gathering area, it's hard to stop them.

21:47

So that way uh things get addressed um before they get out of control again.

21:53

So appreciate everyone who looked into this, and um uh I will definitely reach out again and see um for follow-ups and um to see wh what's actually being implemented.

22:08

Thank you.

22:08

Thank you.

22:09

Council Crane.

22:12

Thank you, Mr.

22:13

Chair.

22:13

Um, yeah, I mean, this is a long, long-standing issue.

22:17

Um, I think we've both I've dealt with this in past committees, I think.

22:22

Um first of all, it's a it's kind of a fascinating situation with that house back there.

22:28

On Google, it shows it as 483, which would make it maybe part of the liquor store.

22:33

Like I'm assuming that house is completely Medford.

22:40

Does anybody know the answer to that?

22:41

Well, correct, counselor.

22:43

Thank you.

22:45

Um yeah, so through the years, you can look at the Google maps, like they had the they had a fence with a gate, then the gate went away, then they and the whole fence went away.

22:55

Uh and when I was dealing with this a while ago, I you know, I think the the solution in my opinion would be um you know motion sensor cameras and lights and the cameras with you know two-way capability to you know let speak to the people on the other side, whether it's dumping um or any anything they're doing, you know, again, not not so strictly that you know, we expect it every time, but I'm saying it that just seems like because it's a very difficult situation to address when you have people that want to do good and leave stuff and then you have an open space.

23:31

Um yeah, the the thing is very challenging.

23:33

I think the you know the the thing that makes the most sense to me is um well, gating off, like you said, uh Chief Time and gating off a certain portion.

23:47

Uh so because the roof obviously is part of the fraction too.

23:51

I mean, I think people go up there, they you know, they drink whatever.

23:54

Um so there's multiple issues there as far as just being a hangout.

23:58

I think you know, proper lighting and motion sensored cameras, if if Salvation Army is willing to do that, if somebody you know somewhere they is willing to kind of monitor and just be like, hey, you know, um, this is private property.

24:12

Could you please you know not hang out here or whatever?

24:15

Um other than that, it's probably gonna be a lot of catamuse and and just you know not you know, not want to lock people up every time they're on the property, especially as you said, it's kind of a tricky situation where there is an easement to a front door.

24:32

So um hopefully the Salvation Army can come up with some sort of solution that'll help alleviate the situation.

24:39

But the best thing would be too is if people just didn't dump their stuff there.

24:43

Um I know people don't want to throw stuff in the trash, and I know people, but this is a anytime we have an aid box somewhere, this is an issue.

24:51

Anytime we have an area where donations are accepted.

24:55

Um like I said, they used to do kind of hours, they had a gate, they did hours for donations.

25:00

Um but I know that even that can be challenging as well.

25:05

So people will just leave them on the sidewalk and then we might ding them for a ticket.

25:08

Yeah, it's it's kind of just it's whack-able.

25:12

Um but it sounds like you guys are working great with the Salvation Army, and hopefully they can put some lighting and cameras up and we can get that solution going.

25:21

Uh Chief Donovan, did you have a comment?

25:24

Yeah, yeah, just to just kind of close off from the police departments uh point of view.

25:27

You know, yeah, I mean, with um just uh counselor clinging, you hit the nail on the head, it's a lot like cat and mouse, but as soon as we conclude that meeting, I'll circle back with the council through IGA and you give you guys a summary of of what we came out of the meeting.

25:40

You can lead a horse to water, but we can't necessarily force them to put up cameras and lighting, but that's gonna be a solution.

25:46

Uh, you know, until they get tired of being cited by ISD in Medford.

25:50

So but uh I will definitely update the council through IGA.

25:56

A few questions.

25:57

Uh and there's no representative from ISD here, correct?

26:00

Is that right, Director Nigel and Willems?

26:06

Mr.

26:06

Shah is correct.

26:07

Okay.

26:08

I do view most of this as an ISD issue.

26:11

Um if it if it's not direct crime, then it's a definitely citation issue uh and accountability for the property itself.

26:20

So it sounds like the this uh parking lot is not a public way, correct?

26:26

There's a means of egress for another property, but this is not a public way, correct?

26:32

Uh to the chair to the chair.

26:34

Uh I wouldn't necessarily call it a public way, but there is a there is a um a right of way for like deliveries, you know, mill Amazon.

26:45

So there is that kind of sticky situation where um you know we always say public has right to access, uh, but but it is limited, I guess you can say.

26:55

Well, the reason I'm saying this is I've had a number of issues in my day with properties uh that are not being kept well.

27:03

Uh and if you can visibly see it from the street, then that's a fineable offense.

27:07

So I've seen this myself where you can see directly from the street, people rummaging through piles of what appears to be trash, uh, just laid about everywhere.

27:18

Um, and again, unless there's a direct crime of theft or someone doing something illegal, that still seems like a fineable offense to me and easy to view from street view.

27:30

Uh and I like I love the Salvation Army and the mission they have.

27:35

Uh, but after seeing it personally myself, it's just not something that should be accepted to happen.

27:40

And if they're not able to maintain the their own site, then maybe they shouldn't be uh having these drop-offs at all.

27:49

So I think that this is definitely falls upon them to correct this, and the city can do as much as it can, but ultimately this sounds like something that ISD should be investigating on a regular basis.

28:01

They could do this every day to address it.

28:03

Council of Saeed.

28:06

Um, thank you, Chair.

28:08

Thank you for adding that.

28:09

Um I have we'll not have someone from ISD here, so we didn't ask ISD-related questions, but the only question they will ask about that, and they agree, like just find them because that after all their business and they should be following the rules.

28:27

Um can some of the ISD issue these fines for things that are happening in the all the way in the back.

28:38

And again, that part we know it's met for can some of the ISD do that.

28:44

My understanding is that it's no.

28:47

So some of the ISD is working with Medford IC, so Metro ISD can issue those fines.

28:53

Uh am I correct?

28:54

Uh director.

28:58

Uh, we have Chief Donovan and Director Nature Williams who would like to lead.

29:06

I could jump in.

29:08

I mean, uh, from a I would say from a legal standpoint, having been around for a while, if their occupancy permit is issued to the city of Somerville, then we have a significant amount of sway over them.

29:19

Yes.

29:20

Uh director, did you want to comment?

29:22

You would lowered your hand.

29:27

I would I would just also add, even if it was on Medford property, it's like issue the fine and have them come in and pull out a map and prove that it's in Medford.

29:36

Uh, because you can see it from some of them.

29:38

And again, I don't want to be um punitive with them because I do like their mission and what they represent, but it does come down to like basic property maintenance, and we would hold every resident accountable the same exact way.

30:00

So if there's no further discussion, um council Said, would you be comfortable marking this word complete or would you like to keep it in committee?

30:05

Um I am comfortable marking this as word complete for now, and it will um have a conversation with some of the IST to figure out what they can do there.

30:17

Um I would just say I would just um request that since some of the ISDM it for IST are in discussion, ask uh the director to um trying to basically can we work with Medford ISD somehow.

30:41

Is this something that like cities do together?

30:44

Um because one shouldn't think those measures a fence, a fence will help a lot.

30:48

Um so if they're if they keep, you know, if like you don't put a fence up, then you keep getting citation, you keep getting fined.

30:57

Uh if this is it's to me, like I don't know, but uh you know I I see work exactly works in this case, but um when uh uh cameras would be great, better you know, lighting would be great, but a fence is a minimum.

31:14

Um this is your property, and since you know there's there's a house there in the back, just like for your area, have a fence, so with the fence with good signage so that people when they show up there with their you know donations, they know not to do that.

31:30

Uh one thing that was measured is the mattresses.

31:32

I've seen multiple times mattresses there.

31:35

We had just changed our ordinance.

31:37

Uh the salvation army should know that and should put signage there saying do not drop off your uh we do not accept uh mattresses.

31:46

Um so yeah, again, I will feel comfortable marking this as we're complete and uh reach out to ISD to start that conversation.

31:58

Thank you, Chair.

32:00

Thank you.

32:01

Uh, if there's no further discussion, I'm gonna lay this on the table.

32:03

Mark it work complete.

32:06

All right.

32:07

And then uh director and agent Williams, did you have items that you wanted to take up out of order?

32:16

Do you, Mr.

32:17

Chair?

32:17

Yes, I believe I'm just uh director Taylor and I are jumping from HCDE right now.

32:24

Uh it was the two items.

32:27

Let me see.

32:28

Um, with director Taylor on it.

32:34

Let me know.

32:53

I think uh director, we have one item.

32:58

It is item um agenda item number seven, 260838, and then item number nine.

33:06

We'll start with seven.

33:08

Uh Madam Clerk, can you please read item number seven?

33:10

Yes, I can.

33:11

Item number seven, ID number 26-0838.

33:16

That the chief information officer provide this council with a summary report on the current accessibility status of city operated digital properties, including websites, platforms, and portals, and share any plans to ensure new properties comply with web content accessibility guidelines using principles like accessibility first design.

33:36

Council Clinton, you're signed on to this.

33:38

Do you want to give an explanation of what you're going for here?

33:44

Um, I mean, there's I believe there's a um there's guidelines issued by the federal government.

33:54

And it sounds like there was a um an extension on it.

33:56

I mean, that's really it's I just wanted to make sure that we were in uh in compliance.

34:06

Okay, I see.

34:07

Uh sorry, this is number seven.

34:09

I'm sorry.

34:09

This is number seven.

34:10

Yeah, so this would just be sort of like an internal audit uh to make sure that you know, outside of the guidelines that we're um you know, wherever possible that we're making sure that we're we're up to the standards of um accessibility.

34:24

You know, there are you know, there's the mandated guidelines on websites, but then there's also um uh usually principles like accessibility first design.

34:35

Um so it was kind of more of just like a self-intern audit outside of the the mandated um uh guidelines.

34:44

Yeah.

34:46

All right.

34:47

I see uh director Taylor here under the name of Director Nigel Williams.

34:54

Uh would you like to update us on this?

34:57

Sure.

34:57

Um just for the record, my name is Denise Taylor.

35:00

I'm the director of communications and public engagement, and I apologize for being late, but two committees requested my presence at the same time this evening.

35:08

So I'm happy to update you on the web content accessibility guide guidelines.

35:16

Um WCAG is how I've heard it pronounced.

35:19

Um would you like me to just give a general overview of where things stand?

35:24

Or would you like to ask questions?

35:26

Um I'll start with the overview as I don't know the subject well.

35:31

Actually, Mr.

35:32

Chair, we we might as well take up item number nine as well at the same time, I would think.

35:37

Okay.

35:38

Please read out on number nine as well.

35:40

Yep, item number nine to be taken up with item number seven.

35:43

So item nine ID number 26-0824 that the Americans with Disabilities Act coordinators submit a written report to the city council regarding the timeline for ADA web content accessibility guidelines 2.1 under Title II in the plan for its completion.

36:01

All right, please proceed.

36:04

Sure.

36:04

So I am not the ADA coordinator, but I did submit a memo and a report on behalf of the city.

36:13

And um so just as it's required that uh sidewalks and buildings and um other features are um ADA accessible.

36:24

There are also federal requirements for accessibility of websites and other digital tools like apps and um the current um web um uh compliance rules that we are um that you miss municipalities are expected to comply with uh are the WCAG, the WICAG 2.1 level A and Level 2A guidelines from the Department of Justice.

36:56

Um those guidelines um originally were um expected to have a deadline for compliance of April 20th, 2026.

37:05

Um those the deadline was extended by a full year for cities of our size.

37:10

So our deadline is now a little less than a year from now on April 26, 2027.

37:17

However, we spent the full year prior to that um making sure we would be compliant by the deadline we expected.

37:26

And so um I'm happy to report that uh the um work that we did on Somerville MA.gov, the city's two apps, um, as well as other digital uh tools that are embedded in the website, um, got us into what is called the highly compli high high compliance category, um which is where most municipalities were targeting for compliance, which is above 90%.

37:52

And I would note that the report that I submitted back in May shows a lower compliance level than we are currently at, uh, because the key thing for this is that uh compliance is not achieved by doing all of the work, putting your pens down and walking away.

38:07

Um this is an ongoing effort that um will be continuing um for as long as we have digital assets.

38:17

Um so we are currently at 92% for level A and 92.4% for level AA, and we are continuing to strive to get as close to 100% as possible, which is generally um not considered uh from a technical perspective, something that you will ever achieve because as soon as you get one thing fixed, usually something else shows up that needs to be corrected.

38:42

So it's uh um sort of a game of whack-a-mole.

38:45

Um, but what I can share with you is that um we uh worked with our vendor uh evolving web to not only bring the city's website into compliance, but also on all of the city's micro sites uh to the ex with the exclusion of the schools, which are working on a full overhaul of their website.

39:09

Their website will be replaced with a new website, so they're focused on that rather than making corrections to the current site.

39:15

But all of the city's microsites um were either worked on by our vendor or by vendors that work on those sites.

39:22

The libraries have their own vendor, for example.

39:25

Um the types of uh uh fixes that were made um were to address things that can uh cause uh problems for people who have um visual needs or cognitive needs or mobility needs.

39:45

Uh so things that that got fixed were things like um you have to have what's called alt text, alternative text for all images and graphics.

40:00

Um if you cannot see the image or graphic, um the alt text allows a screen reader to read to you the description of what is there.

40:04

Um we worked on color contrast, uh font sizes, um and uh also plain language improvements uh for cognitive needs.

40:16

Uh the um uh 1.27 million uh occurrences were resolved in 29 different categories.

40:28

And um the uh uh let's see.

40:35

Um I'm sorry, I'm just I'm just scanning through this this report here.

40:40

Um really good news that I want to share as well is that PDFs have long been a barrier for access for persons using screen readers in particular.

40:53

And just um on Thursday, we installed a new tool called Doc Access, which with the tap of a button uh will convert any PDF on the website to accessible HTML that can be uh read by a screen reader.

41:10

There is also a uh button on that tool that allows you to translate the PDF and um a call service if you need live support.

41:20

Um so I would encourage any of you later on your own time to uh click a PDF on the website and test the tool out.

41:28

It it may not be um it doesn't create a difference for someone who's not using a screen reader that is as noticeable, um, but it's it's um a resolution of a significant barrier.

41:40

Uh we will also be training staff to create compliant PDFs, but this tool is a fail-safe to account for human error because it's um there's a lot of requirements to make a document accessible.

41:53

So this helps us uh overcome that.

41:56

Um I could stop there if you have any questions.

42:00

Any questions from the committee?

42:05

Uh yeah, Mr.

42:07

Chair.

42:08

Um so you said I'm just trying to remember, I wish I could see the old website and see like what the differences are.

42:16

Um I know maybe it's it's like archived somewhere or something, but um.

42:24

You know, uh so part of the guidelines is the for the poor.

42:28

It's uh perceivable, operable, like you said, understandable, robust.

42:32

Uh I know that this can encompass, like you said, everything from color contrast.

42:36

Um so you're saying currently our front-facing some city assemble website is um in compliance with WCAG.

42:50

Yeah.

42:50

So the goal is described as fully compliant.

42:55

Um municipalities have been interpreting interpreting that to mean to get above 90%, uh, with the goal of continually striving to get as close to 100 as possible.

43:07

Um, and yes, so we we are at a combined compliance of um actually 93% for overall Title A, uh I'm sorry, Title II compliance.

43:19

And within the two categories, it's 92 and 92.4.

43:23

And I know that that doesn't average to 93, but the overall compliance is calculated slightly differently.

43:29

Um again, that doesn't mean that you won't find uh things on the website that need to be addressed.

43:38

We are continually working on this.

43:41

Um our vendor is working on this.

43:44

We use uh tools to scrape the site and identify issues to resolve.

43:48

There are still issues to resolve.

43:51

Um, and we will continue bumping that percentage up in the coming months.

43:56

And once we get to next year's uh deadline, which we would already have quad of qualified for, we hope to be at an even higher level of uh ongoing percentage compliance.

44:11

Thank you, Mr.

44:11

Chair.

44:12

Through and through you.

44:13

So you said like some of our vendors helped us.

44:15

And we don't we don't have necessarily anybody in-house that would specialize in sort of what what were you know how do we get to where we need to be in terms of compliance, like with with the websites and stuff like that.

44:30

It's not something that's actually we do.

44:34

Um all so we have uh two and a half people on our our web team, and uh they are they all worked on this as well, um, as did I.

44:46

Um, and uh they are uh both versed in this as well as actively working on this every day.

45:00

Uh it was such a massive undertaking to get this done by what we thought was the deadline that we had to hire an outside firm uh that had a very large team and tools that we don't have um to that um in order to get us uh quickly into compliance, but maintenance once we get to to like the highest possible level, like a holding level, um our team will be the ones who are mainly doing this.

45:22

We have a tool in-house that um they can use to find what what needs to be fixed and they know how to fix these things.

45:29

Um it's just right um for for the past year and for the next few months, we're still using a lot of time from the vendor in order to get to our baseline that we that we're looking for.

45:42

That's great.

45:43

Okay, yeah, just three, Mr.

45:44

Chair.

45:44

I'm glad to hear about this tool because I was gonna say, how are you troubleshooting?

45:48

You know, are you asking people to test it out?

45:51

Uh people with disabilities that you know play around on the website and and you know, people that might have site issues or something like to see how things are going.

46:01

But if there's a tool, um, and this is all great.

46:04

I'm satisfied.

46:05

Uh, you know, I think this satisfies both of these orders as far as I think one of the questions was where are we on it?

46:12

Uh, just in general, because we a lot of people thought that the deadline you know was fast approaching, and then they extended it.

46:18

So it's great that we're at this point ahead of the game to just keep tweaking, and uh, you know, when the deadline does um reach us, uh, we will feel fully confident that we were that we are in compliance.

46:30

I guess just for a second, if I like what I was kind of getting at, and if the web team is is trained and burst on this and have been conferring with people who you know, or there's a tool um that is uh you know, very effective.

46:44

That's great because you know as just to you know, talk tough for a second here.

46:50

It's like I know like there's been talk in the community about you know what it means to have a dedicated ADA person.

46:55

And I know right now we had a staff change, so there's a few people kind of filling that role.

47:00

And um, it's just when these things come up, you know, it'd be this type, you know, with these we need things in this uh of this nature of um this sensitivity with regards to ADA, it'd be great to sort of have a dedicated person um to kind of help address and you know present on so people understand what exactly might have been changed and stuff like that.

47:24

But but great work by all of you and your team, burn compliance, that's great.

47:27

I just want to make a plug for again making sure that we're in the spirit of John and my order, making sure item number seven making sure that we're constantly sort of reminding ourselves to with whether it's a new app or whatever to make sure that we are putting uh principles like accessibility first design uh as part of our forward thinking plan.

47:50

So uh but thank you for you to your team and and their work.

47:53

Uh really appreciate it.

47:54

All uh that's all I have, Mr.

47:55

Chair.

47:57

All right, thank you.

47:58

See no further discussion.

47:59

Both of these items will be laid on the table for approval.

48:02

Uh work complete.

48:03

Thank you very much.

48:04

Thank you.

48:05

Any other items?

48:06

Thank you.

48:07

Any other items to take out of order, Director Najram Williams.

48:13

Uh to you, Mr.

48:15

Chair.

48:17

I believe I believe the next item was sorry, sorry to interrupt.

48:22

I would sorry, real quick, on those two items.

48:25

It was mentioned that there was a report and uh summary both sent over.

48:29

Um I don't see them attached to the as attachments to the agenda.

48:34

I was just gonna ask the clerk if was that something that came over to you that was supposed to be shared or uh yeah, I also did not see those, so I did not share those.

48:43

Um so I'm not sure if they haven't been attached or where those may be.

48:47

Okay, but they will eventually get attached to this record um for when we at some point we'll get those from okay.

48:56

So you might need to circle back.

48:58

Somebody needs circle back with the uh with the director of communications.

49:02

They were sent to the we'll figure that out.

49:07

Uh director, any uh what's the next item?

49:11

Uh three, Mr.

49:13

Chair.

49:13

The next item was agenda item number 11, 26 uh 0647.

49:21

Okay, please read that item, Adam Clerk.

49:25

Apologies, I was texting clerks team.

49:27

Um, which item number was that 11.

49:34

Okay, item number 11, ID number 26-0647.

49:38

That the administration update this council on the ordering and maintenance of firefighter equipment, such as fire engines, ladder trucks, and all fire apparatus.

49:47

Oh, this one's mine.

49:48

Uh let's see, where do we where to begin?

49:51

I think uh everyone was in the room when the fire department uh brought these issues to attention.

49:57

So everyone in the committee understands it.

50:00

Um so I'm gonna hand it over to the director and see who's on the city's side to discuss this.

50:15

Yeah, okay.

50:18

While we're waiting, I see Director Ross in there.

50:20

I bet he's got some opinions.

50:27

Do you want to weigh in on this?

50:30

Good evening now, Chair.

50:31

Uh Chief Charity will lead this.

50:33

Um, always here to support, and I've got other items on the agenda.

50:35

Thanks.

50:36

Okay.

50:38

So who are we waiting for?

50:40

I'm on, I'm here.

50:41

There we go.

50:43

Uh Chief Tierney.

50:45

Yes, sir.

50:46

Uh, thank you.

50:47

Sean Tierney, assistant fire chief.

50:51

Um, I have some data if you want to go over on our apparatus.

50:57

Uh currently we have all of our apparatus in service.

51:02

We have two spares in service and a spare ladder, two spear engines and a spare ladder truck and a spear rescue all available for service.

51:14

Um, we just recently were delivered engine five on June 23rd, went into service.

51:20

Uh, we have a shop truck being delivered at the end of the month.

51:24

We expect a new heavy rescue to be delivered in December 26 or January of 27.

51:32

We're also expecting a new engine one to be delivered in January of 27, and then a new ladder two to be delivered in June of 27.

51:44

We also have ordered a new command vehicle uh for the chief that was replacing an old vehicle, and that's on order, but I have no date for delivery.

51:59

Okay.

52:00

Uh anything else to add to this before we uh have you have any other questions?

52:09

Yeah, so I guess my question would be um are there any issues with these engines due to uh the speed bumps and other traffic carbon measures that were mentioned.

52:22

I assume uh chief, you you're familiar with the complaints coming from the firefighters union about um slowdown in speed and the potential impact of traffic common measures on the vehicles themselves.

52:35

Uh would do you see any impact from these uh from these traffic common measures on the vehicles themselves.

52:43

I mean, I we don't have data to reflect that it's specifically caused by that.

52:48

I mean, it could be any number of things, the conditions of the roads, the age of the apparatus.

52:54

Um it's a possibility that it does contribute.

52:59

I mean, I'm not trying to say that it doesn't, but we we can't say for certain that one particular cause is what causes uh maintenance to these vehicles.

53:10

Um we did have a uh busy June of um May and June.

53:16

We've had like over 100,000 in maintenance.

53:19

So we were you know, some of it was transmission work, some of it was suspension work.

53:24

Um so we did have multiple vehicles out of service.

53:28

Some of it's back up in a lot of people are experiencing the same thing.

53:34

So a lot of the vendors that provide services for us are are backed up.

53:39

Sometimes the truck stays out of service for some time.

53:42

So we did have some considerable difficulties keeping apparatus going over the those months of May and June.

53:52

However, um, you know, year in, year out, we we stay pretty steady.

53:57

Last year was a pretty a pretty anomaly for heavy maintenance on some of the vehicles, but like I said, we had to replace the transmission on the tower the year prior.

54:07

We had uh to replace part of the aerial for the tower.

54:11

So not everything can be so easily determined that it is the speed bombs or the road uh traffic calming, it is probably a combination of a lot of things.

54:28

We've always had maintenance before speed bumps.

54:31

Uh so it's hard to say what exactly would be the cause, but uh the roads are you know in some places in tough condition.

54:40

I I can't say that that doesn't contribute either.

54:46

Have you noticed any increase in maintenance issues in the past three years compared to the years before that?

54:53

So just looking over the last three years.

55:06

As I said, we had a major transmission repair and we had a major aerial repair.

55:12

So we don't track numbers for exactly suspension related things.

55:17

Um, you know, these vehicles do get we've had a lot of brake replacement in the last year or two.

55:24

Um these vehicles, as they start to get older, you start to need to replace brakes.

55:28

It's not as much at the beginning, but as they get older, we have brakes, suspension.

55:34

The things do go.

55:35

I mean, I've heard multiple opinions of what could be the cause, but as I said, we don't have any hard data to say one thing is the root cause of any of this damage.

55:47

Okay.

55:48

Has there been any uh issues in terms of firefighters' ability to perform the duties due to any equipment issues?

55:58

I mean, I don't believe that we've always provided safe apparatus.

56:02

We take it out of service if something is wrong.

56:05

We found replacements in many cases for apparatus, we borrow apparatus from different cities and towns.

56:13

We've been lucky enough relationships that the chief has had with other fire chiefs that we've been able to, if we have an extended lapse and our spears are out of service, that we can get safe apparatus from a neighboring town, and we also help them out and contribute the same way.

56:34

Um fortunately, right now, uh anything could change in any day, but like I said, currently we have two spare engines in service.

56:42

We have that are ready to be backups, um, a spare ladder truck, and we anticipate once we get a new engine one in January that we'll have a third engine.

56:54

So our plan is to fully rehabilitate those two spears because the price of buying a spare apparatus is astronomical, so it's more cost effective for us to be able to rehabilitate those spears.

57:10

But having newer apparatus will enable us to be able to put a piece up to get rehabs over uh it'll take a period of time.

57:20

And having the newer apparatus, hopefully less maintenance will be on them.

57:24

We'll be able to get these spears into top-notch shape.

57:29

So I'm not an expert on any of this at all.

57:32

And I definitely thank you as the expert on uh on this issue.

57:36

Kires, you you've been in the department for a long time.

57:39

Uh, we are you seeing anything abnormal about equipment issues in the past few years?

57:46

Like anything that should be of concern, uh, anything that we should really be addressing.

57:53

Um, I think that the delay of the to from when you order an apparatus until you receive it is different now from earlier in my career.

58:07

Um, for instance, the you know, we ordered engine five in October of 23, and we just put it in service in June of 26.

58:19

And we they keep getting delays on the manufacturing end.

58:23

So that's something that we're looking at to try to, you know, working with the city, and we're coming up with a new uh capital improvement plan to maybe readdress the timing of how we replace so that it addresses some of these delays that are occurring.

58:42

So that that sounds more like a procurement issue than a uh than a uh vehicle issue itself, then correct?

58:50

Correct.

58:51

Okay.

58:51

Uh one more question, I'll turn it over to Council Klingon.

58:54

So I I believe uh the head of the firefighters union uh made a claim that uh he believes that fire engines are slowed down three seconds, I believe, three to five seconds per speed bump.

59:08

Do you know if do you agree with that claim?

59:11

And has it impacted uh firefighters' ability to perform their duties at all in the city?

59:18

Uh I don't know the exact statistic that he was referring to, but um I I think that uh speed bump obviously slows you down.

59:26

That's what it's designed to do.

59:28

However, we do, you know, that's only part of the response is the actual on the road part.

59:36

We've looked at ways to address our total response time from you know, introducing the purvis system to shave some time off of the turnout time.

59:47

Uh the it's a brief, quick turnout.

59:50

You get apparatus, you get information while you're on the apparatus while you're already on the road instead of sitting in the station waiting to hear uh whole line of what the situation is.

1:00:02

Um we look at data all the time.

1:00:05

Uh our analyst is constantly providing us with data.

1:00:08

So we you know, we might change something in East Somerville that we used to be from headquarters was faster.

1:00:16

We're finding due to conditions now that maybe from Union Square we hit it quicker.

1:00:20

Maybe from assembly, you know, that's changed too.

1:00:23

We look at how we respond with a new station.

1:00:26

Uh so we're constantly reassessing if something I'm I'm not saying that a speed bump doesn't slow you down.

1:00:33

It's obviously that's what it's meant to do.

1:00:35

But we're our response times aren't showing a significant impact due to them.

1:00:42

Council Claire.

1:00:46

Yeah, thank you, Mr.

1:00:47

Chair, through you.

1:00:48

Um so just with regards to the ordering.

1:00:54

Um, you know, we've I know myself and counselor mobile and have talked to um some firefighters, and you know, we discussed the topic of this isn't pointing any finger outside of inside of the city, the topic of um private equity buying up all of the the the fire uh I think they're down to three three major three uh companies, three major companies that uh provide so um provide that that manufacture fire engines.

1:01:24

So I've I've seen articles where it's like you know, it's it's everywhere it's happening, it's taking you know four years, three, four years, five years to get a fire engine.

1:01:33

Um I don't know how like what the procurement situation is and how to you know if there's a way to use a more uh you know change to a more local place that may be able to um you know better serve us uh in a in a quicker manner, but I know there's also supply chain issues like that.

1:01:56

So just that I'm just addressing the issue that you said about about the changing time time time that it takes to um to get a vehicle.

1:02:03

But it sounds like we have one RD online, and I think you said three in the pipeline, three new trucks.

1:02:08

So currently, like I said, we one just delivered on the 23rd of June.

1:02:13

We have um one a rescue truck being delivered in December, an engine company delivered in January, and a ladder truck in next June.

1:02:26

Okay.

1:02:26

All have been ordered, you know, it'll be it'll be three years come delivery, two and a half anyway.

1:02:33

Um there's been difficulty, it's definitely a supply difficulty.

1:02:39

Can't even it's due to several factors.

1:02:42

One, like you named with the companies, but we you know, they change some of the emissions things with some of these motors.

1:02:49

So some of the vendors can't even quote you on what the apparatus will look like in three years because they don't even know what type of engine they'll be able to put in it at that point.

1:03:00

So we also face the difficulty of just even getting quoted a price from a truck that you're not going to receive for three years, they don't know how to do that for us.

1:03:11

So it is there's multiple layers to the difficulty.

1:03:16

Okay.

1:03:17

Um, but like I said, it sounds like we have some new apparatus coming in, so that's really great.

1:03:22

I think I would just like to touch upon also the equipment factor.

1:03:26

Um, do we have so we we have must have like a head mechanic, or is it just or is there just a mechanic per station or how we're gonna do that?

1:03:34

We have a master mechanic, yes.

1:03:37

That's and so they kind of act as de facto like fleet manager or whatnot.

1:03:43

Uh somewhat he wears a lot of hats.

1:03:45

He he does our whole staff.

1:03:47

The fleet manager as far as procuring is through the DBW, not for the fire apparatus, but any vehicle, like any of the fire prevention cars or well, I guess I guess it would might be.

1:03:58

I was just I guess I was just thinking it might be useful for data tracking, you know.

1:04:02

Um I know what you're saying, fleet manager purchasing through DBW, any major equipment.

1:04:07

I get that, but I guess like, and I'm not asking this head, you know, the master mechanics aside, you know, keeping track, but it just it does, you know, it does, and I hear what you're saying.

1:04:16

It's everything is a factor.

1:04:17

It's like, is it the age of the thing?

1:04:19

Is it you know a bad winter or like a lot of salt on the road?

1:04:22

Like all these things contribute.

1:04:23

So it's hard to really put your finger on whether or not uh increase in repairs has you know, has been a thing due to uh speed humps alone.

1:04:36

Um so I get that.

1:04:38

I just think and maybe you know, view just from sense are saying that it doesn't seem like there's a correlation per se, but I'm curious if those are I'm not saying that either.

1:04:48

I'm not I'm not saying that it's doesn't play a factor.

1:04:51

I just don't I don't think that you can just say this is what's causing all of our issues because I don't want to get no more everyone plays through the track.

1:05:00

Everyone plays through the chair.

1:05:02

Yeah, there you miss the chair.

1:05:03

Yeah, no more than you could say that the the condition of like Highland Adam, the roads in general is but it's all playing a factor as is what I was saying.

1:05:12

Um so yeah, it's it so I guess as far as um equipment goes, we have we you know we're we're in good shape uh with regards to the with regards to the trucks.

1:05:27

Um what about any other fire apparatus?

1:05:32

Like I guess kind of the council McLaughlin's question of like is there any needs that you see that we're sort of behind on outside of like fire trucks?

1:05:44

But like are we, you know, in terms of um safety equipment and stuff like that.

1:05:50

Are we pretty well stocked up and up to date on all of our you know, whether you know you hear these things in the news about somebody voted against these suits that are better for health?

1:06:03

Um do you have any comment on that?

1:06:06

Just around because we're talking about equipment through the chair.

1:06:11

Are you talking about like fire fighting gear?

1:06:16

Yeah.

1:06:18

Um we we keep an eye on what's coming available.

1:06:24

I don't think that I know there's been a lot of talk of PFAS free gear, and um, there is one manufacturer that's out now that is kind of a new thing.

1:06:34

I don't know what the durability of it will will look like.

1:06:40

I don't know how it's gonna hold up.

1:06:41

I I we don't there's not enough information out there for this new new thing to make a decision.

1:06:47

Um right now we're we do have discussions with the union, obviously, on all this stuff, and we're we're on the same page with them on this.

1:06:56

So everybody has two sets of gear currently, so nobody's lacking for any gear or equipment.

1:07:03

Um you know, we put out notices in the throughout the year for captains of every apparatus for any equipment that they need, and you know, they come to us, and as we have the funds, we we find ways to get them what they need.

1:07:19

Great.

1:07:20

That's all I really was looking for.

1:07:21

And yeah, it's not it sounds like you are like you said, everybody's kind of fully geared up and stocked up, and um so we're good on that front as well.

1:07:31

Um, yeah.

1:07:33

So uh like I said with these new trucks coming online, that's really great news.

1:07:37

I guess as far as the maintenance of the trucks and whether or not what's causing if there is an increase or not an increase uh in repairs, I guess maybe what I'm suggesting is we you know try to like track some data and just to see if it's specific things, like obviously like you said brakes, you know, and then there's the other piece that they may not make them like they did, you know, five years ago.

1:08:01

So but um, but like brakes and stuff like that.

1:08:03

That's kind of normal wear and tear stuff, especially in a city like ours.

1:08:08

Um, but we just want to make sure you guys everyone has everything they need and that and we're we're keeping an eye on, you know, um whether or not we're we're and it sounds like with these new trucks that we're we're moving in the right direction, I guess now.

1:08:20

The only other thing we'll be bringing up probably other time is uh is is the buildings, you know, themselves.

1:08:24

So that's all Mr.

1:08:25

Chair.

1:08:27

Thank you.

1:08:28

Um so I wish there was someone from the firefighters union here to have a full discussion, and that's on me for not inviting them.

1:08:37

Uh so I am going to uh lay this on the table when market work complete.

1:08:44

And just if the an issue might come up where the firefighters union feels like there's questions that haven't been answered, I may send it back to committee.

1:08:53

But for right now, I feel satisfied with the responses.

1:08:56

So uh thank you very much, Chief, for coming.

1:08:58

Uh, this item will be laid on the table away marked work complete.

1:09:03

Thank you.

1:09:04

Okay, Director Nigem Williams.

1:09:06

Uh anything else they want to take out of order.

1:09:16

Mr.

1:09:16

Chair, I believe the next item would be agenda item number 21.

1:09:22

Please read that one.

1:09:24

All right, item number 21, ID number 25-1770 that this counts that the city council discuss the safety of the summer street bike lane design around or near Putnam Street to Benton Road and how and if additional safety modifications can be made.

1:09:44

Okay, who's here to discuss this item?

1:09:48

Chair, this is Brad Ross, and I serve as director of mobility and OSPCD.

1:09:52

Happy to speak quickly on this item.

1:09:54

I know the committee has more.

1:09:56

So, Chair, I appreciate this order.

1:10:00

City staff from multiple departments are constantly evaluating street reconstruction, design safety monitoring and evaluating safety conditions, travel speeds, user experience, and we welcome feedback from residents from counselors and from partner organizations all the time.

1:10:17

So in terms of Summer Street, just a quick recap for the committee.

1:10:21

The design process that went into the Summer Street redesign was between 2019 and 2021.

1:10:27

Construction process was between 2022 and 2025 as part of a big Spring Hill sewer separation work.

1:10:34

So we're about a year or a little bit more than that in terms of monitoring.

1:10:38

We did receive a report from one constituent who experienced a bad bike crash of that facility.

1:10:47

And we appreciate that person telling their story and asking us to make sure that we've really reviewed these types of facilities to make sure that they're safe for users of all ages and all abilities.

1:10:57

Crash in question occurred between School Street and Spring Street and at uphill on Summer Street.

1:11:04

Chair, as you uh the committee may remember, that section of Summer Street is exceptionally narrow, much narrower than most two-way streets in Somerville, and with insufficient width from curb to curb to provide for all of the different things that we all try to provide.

1:11:20

And so for many years before the project, the condition of Summer Street was two narrow travel lanes, one in each direction, one side of curbside parking and one narrow bike facility.

1:11:32

Um that condition was retained in the new design.

1:11:35

Because of the narrowness chair, um, the bike facility was raised up but only three inches off the street level, and it used a sloped curb between street level and bike facility level.

1:11:46

And then there was another three-inch gap between the bike facility level and the sidewalk level.

1:11:52

Those are standard design details that are used in constrained locations like Summer Street.

1:11:57

And the design feedback at the time from partners, including Summerville Fire, was that it was important to have some mountable with uh in terms of apparatus getting up there if needed to serve adjacent properties.

1:12:10

Um, the only alternative that city staff examined there to provide a more traditional 90 degree, six-inch granite curb for the bike facility separation would have involved removing all curbside parking on the other side of the street.

1:12:24

And from our community engagement process and our standards, we thought that that was not the best fit and not the best balance.

1:12:30

So, chair to summarize that design is definitely just very constrained.

1:12:35

Um, and we acknowledge that that sloped curb um is can be tricky for some users.

1:12:41

Um try to exit that curb um from a climbing bike lane standpoint to turn left on Laurel and Green, uh, et cetera, um, we'll need to do so with caution.

1:12:52

And then we probably need to do so at a steeper angle and really be you know careful about it.

1:12:58

And that might not work for everybody.

1:13:00

And so the guidance that we provide to residents and users is that sometimes you might need to get past your destination and then use a crosswalk across the street at the next intersection.

1:13:12

Um, again, we are sympathetic to anybody who's experienced a crash and the resident who I've spoken with has acknowledged our condolences and our empathy.

1:13:21

Staff will continue to accept feedback.

1:13:24

Um, and I'm happy to answer committee's questions, but I also do just want to quickly want to leave you with some of the things that that have been positive in terms of our experience these first year and a half.

1:13:34

Um, traffic volumes and traffic speeds are down substantially on Summer Street.

1:13:39

Chair, we're talking 40% decrease in through traffic, um, which is really important for safety and for quality of life.

1:13:46

And at the same time, we have not observed any displacement of that traffic to parallel streets like Somerville Avenue or Highland Avenue.

1:13:53

Speeding behavior is down, you know, from 55% speeding behavior to 20% speeding behavior.

1:14:00

Like these are really substantial safety benefits from the Summer Street redesign.

1:14:05

Um in terms of what's next, we'll continue to monitor any reports of near misses or crashes.

1:14:13

The crash in question is the only one that I have found in our databases.

1:14:18

Um, but again, we keep an eye on these things with some of the police department.

1:14:22

Um, and we're always accepting constituent and council feedback and questions.

1:14:25

So I hope that's a helpful kind of three-minute summary of how we've gotten here, how we evaluate success or areas to improve with street designs like this one.

1:14:34

Thank you.

1:14:35

Uh, so I'll talk about this one as it directly affects me on a nearly daily basis.

1:14:40

Um, as I take my son to school going up Summer Street, uh use this bike lane.

1:14:46

Um I definitely see what the counselor who submitted this order, the concerns are, especially around uh Benton Road.

1:15:01

As a cyclist is very dangerous to turn onto that street.

1:15:06

And so say I'm riding even Central Street, which has two bike lanes to turn from central onto Summer is a really sharp turn.

1:15:15

You have to go a little bit out on the road.

1:15:17

If there's oncoming traffic, then it can be scary.

1:15:21

And definitely can see how an accident would happen that way.

1:15:24

And then on Benton Road, it's good to hear that there hasn't been too much traffic deferment onto other streets, but Benton Road definitely has a lot more traffic due to the Central Street bike lane sign.

1:15:38

I know this personally because if I don't ride my bike, uh, if I don't ride my son to school, I'm driving him there, and I can no longer go down Central Street.

1:15:46

So I go down Benton Road, and there's two-way traffic going that way, uh, which creates some uh backup there, but more importantly, could potentially lead to a bike accident or a pedestrian accident if somebody was using that road.

1:16:01

Not offering any solutions right now, but since we're in committee, I just want to share that because I see it personally.

1:16:07

And just a shorter in terms of some of these corners, I don't know if there's anything there that can be done around flex posts or something like that.

1:16:16

Uh, or even like when I take those turns, I ride onto the sidewalk just because it's safer.

1:16:22

And I don't know if there's something we can do to indicate to people that it's safe to ride on the sidewalk if you're taking these sharp turns, uh, kind of like different paint uh to indicate that it's acceptable.

1:16:35

Um just ideas, director, uh, for you to bring back, but I will definitely say that I have personally witnessed and experienced some of these concerns.

1:16:47

Any further discussion?

1:16:51

Seeing none, this item will be laid on the table.

1:16:53

Mark work complete.

1:16:55

Thank you, Chair.

1:16:56

Thank you, committee.

1:16:56

Thank you.

1:16:58

Next item, director.

1:17:00

You're calling the shots today.

1:17:04

Um agenda item number 20.

1:17:07

I think it's item 26057.

1:17:14

20.

1:17:15

Um, ID number 26-0057.

1:17:18

That the director of human resources and the chief of police work with state officials to ride crossing guards on McGrath Highway.

1:17:25

Thank you.

1:17:26

Uh, who do we have for this item?

1:17:32

Mr.

1:17:33

Chair, we had uh director of human resources and gill.

1:17:36

We also are joined by uh some um our crossing guard supervisor Cicero and Lieutenant Holland, but I believe we're starting with our um awesome guard supervisor Cicero.

1:17:52

Okay, we'll start with you, Officer Cicero.

1:17:56

Um to start out with I am the crossing guide supervisor, but I am not an officer.

1:18:01

Okay, all right.

1:18:03

Just call you Mr.

1:18:04

Cicero.

1:18:05

All right, that's cool.

1:18:06

Um, this is my first time addressing the committee, so be with me.

1:18:11

But um it has been uh told to me that uh we needed a crossing guard at McGraft and Broadway.

1:18:21

And so what I did was I dug into the history of it, and McGraft Highway is a state highway.

1:18:29

So um currently it is supported by state employees.

1:18:36

So if you notice there are two crossing guards on McGraft and Pearl Street, and they are state crossing guards, they are not crossing guards from the city.

1:18:46

Um another item is there is an overpass on Oda Street to cross McGraft Highway.

1:18:54

So in the past, when we um when there were requests for the state to put a crossing garage, uh crossing guard at McGraft and Broadway.

1:19:03

Um they denied it because they said everyone should be using the the overpass, and they already have two crossing guards at McGraft and Pearl Street.

1:19:15

Um, to add to this, whenever um someone um puts in for um a new crossing guard at any crosswalk, I do my own assessment.

1:19:29

Um the crossing guards I have.

1:19:33

Um, the main reason for the crossing guides is support the um schools of Sumerville and to cross safely the children that are 13 and under.

1:19:44

So that's their main the main thing that my crossing guards do.

1:19:48

And um, so when I did my assessment, I did it on Tuesday, April 14th.

1:19:53

I did it from 7.15 to 8:30, which is the morning shift of all crossing guides.

1:20:00

And what I found out is um when I watched the people cross, I had 55 people cross, 50 were adults, five were teenagers, and they were traveling westbound.

1:20:15

So they were uh traveling the opposite way to any um schools in East Summable.

1:20:23

So, in my opinion, it doesn't fit the criteria of summable crossing guards.

1:20:31

Um where no children cross in there.

1:20:35

And um if anyone would like to do an assessment with me that and don't agree with my with my assessment, I'd be more than happy to go down there and do an assessment when um school starts again.

1:20:50

I currently have 42 crossing guards um for the regular season, and now I'm starting up with 26 for the summer.

1:21:00

So any questions.

1:21:04

First of all, I definitely appreciate you taking this so seriously.

1:21:07

Um, and I'll tell you where this comes from for me is I do have constituents occasionally ask me why there's no crossing guard at the Broadway and McGrath site, just because it is such a treacherous area to uh ride.

1:21:21

And I've spoken to my state rep about it, and I think the way I phrased this order is a few.

1:21:27

This I think this item even may be a year or two old uh because the idea was we know that uh it's a state road and would therefore require state crossing guards.

1:21:38

Uh and the previous administration, there was some discussion about this, but it really didn't go anywhere.

1:21:43

Uh so that's why I was bringing up now to see if the city could work with the state to see if there's a possibility of getting state crossing guards at this site.

1:21:52

Uh council claim.

1:21:54

Yeah, Mr.

1:21:54

Chair, through you.

1:21:55

And I just think like now would be the perfect time since um, you know, they might as well get somebody down there and accustomed to crossing there before they can't, they're not gonna be able to use the overpass excuse for much longer if you know their intention is to take it down.

1:22:11

You know, whether or not that happens and you know, whatever, whatever it's just to point to that while also planning on taking it down, it seems like um, you know, it might be high time to to get somebody at the Broadway McGrath.

1:22:26

And you know, I almost want to speak to the danger of Broadway and McGrath.

1:22:30

You know, a few years ago when there was a problem with the lights, I just remember um people are so crazy out there that like even we had SPD out there because there was people were just creating gridlock, like they like there was I forget exactly what else was going on as to why this happened, but and I just remember like um people would even ignore the police, you know.

1:22:51

So it's like it's the idea of like, you know, a crossing guard will certainly help children.

1:22:57

Um but I mean it it's just like the way people cut through our city, it's really unbelievable.

1:23:03

The lack of respect that they have for for the fact that they're driving through neighborhoods.

1:23:09

Um first of all, this is great.

1:23:11

I finally, you know, we've we've never met you before, and I don't know if you're new in the role or if you've been in the role, but usually we would just meet the officer in charge.

1:23:18

Uh I think it's now Holland, it was Chiefs before.

1:23:21

Um, so that's great to meet you as a supervisor.

1:23:24

And you're right to say that, yes, we are aware that there are that's a state road, and that and I think what confuses us sometimes is that there are those two crossing guards um at McGrath and Pearl, and you know, Constable Glocklands for years has been trying to get one.

1:23:38

I think it, you know, whether it's or at least examine having one at Highland and McGrath at uh Highland and McGrath, which I or Metford Street McGrath rather, which I I know that you said that's to service the high school, which may not fall into our our particular guidelines, but uh dangerous nonetheless.

1:23:54

And so if we if we can get the state to finally put a crossing guard where we now have two elementary schools um in the East Summer World, three, I'm sorry, Capoano and then now Edger Lee with the East Summer.

1:24:08

Um we really should try to work with them to get this done once and for all.

1:24:13

Thanks.

1:24:13

Uh Chief Donovan, you had a comment.

1:24:18

Yeah, uh Mr.

1:24:19

Chair, uh, we have made that uh request to the state in the past, and they have uh uh leaned back on as always the the the cross, the two crossing guards at Pearl Street as well as the overpass.

1:24:30

So um, you know, yeah, we can lean on our state reps more, I guess.

1:24:35

But as far as requests from the SPD, we have made that official request.

1:24:39

Thank you.

1:24:40

And I'll add too, I have uh in the past requested uh state trooper details down there and have at times been told that the intersection is too dangerous to even have state troopers uh work.

1:24:52

So crossing guard would probably be even more dangerous.

1:25:00

So I mean, I think it's a terrible intersection, and we're gonna address it a little bit with the grounding of McGrath, but we're also gonna lose the overpass.

1:25:06

So I am concerned about this, the long term, what's gonna happen with this terrible highway intersection.

1:25:14

I feel satisfied with the answers tonight.

1:25:17

And I think I'm gonna circle back with my state rep Mike Connelly, talk to him about this and see uh what can be done.

1:25:24

But as of right now, I I appreciate uh taking this so seriously uh and uh really investigating and seeing the impact of the community.

1:25:33

Uh Council Fanger.

1:25:34

Yeah, I just want to add a quick plug through you, Mr.

1:25:36

Chair to SPD.

1:25:38

Whether, you know, I know it's again it's state police or state road.

1:25:42

I know that we do have some patrolling powers, but not putting it on you, whether it's you talk to them or we do it ourselves, ramping up enforcement at certain times.

1:25:51

I know that's a tricky subject, but the reason I say that is because while you know, traffic calming and and and and squeezing down the lanes is definitely slowing traffic in terms of driving, but it's creating a more of a desperation uh at the lights where people are basically just running the red light a lot more often now that um McGrath and Broadway is down to two lanes and it's taken them longer to get where they need to go.

1:26:17

Like we need we need some enforcement down there.

1:26:20

Um, and I know SPD spread thin.

1:26:23

So I mean, if we can convince the troopers to uh, you know, to go down there some mornings anyway, at least to try to curb some behavior, that would really go a long way.

1:26:33

Thank you.

1:26:34

So it's out of late on the table.

1:26:37

Um Mark were complete.

1:26:40

Just want to do a time check that it's eight o'clock now.

1:26:43

I do not uh I'm gonna have a hard stop at nine o'clock.

1:26:46

We got a lot of items on the agenda.

1:26:48

So I'm gonna try to get through as many items that city staff are here for, but we may leave some items on the table.

1:26:55

We'll see what happens.

1:26:56

Uh Director Ned Jim Williams, did you want to discuss another item out of order?

1:27:06

Mr.

1:27:07

Chair.

1:27:08

I'm pulling back up that list.

1:27:11

I believe the next item is agenda item number three.

1:27:20

261018.

1:27:23

Excellent.

1:27:23

Yes, please read that Adam.

1:27:25

All right, item number three, ID number 26-1018.

1:27:29

That the chief of police report to this council on the response to the recent upsurge in drug use and other drug-related activity in public spaces in and around Davis Square, including the Hodgkin's curtain park.

1:27:41

All right, who's here to speak on this item?

1:27:44

Mr.

1:27:45

Chair, uh, deputy chief gentleman speaking on behalf of the police department on this item.

1:27:49

Um, recognizing the time and the fact that the USA soccer team is about to start.

1:27:53

I'll be brief.

1:27:55

That is not a factor in this committee, Chief.

1:27:58

We are a basketball committee.

1:28:01

Um the mayor is a soccer, uh soccer person.

1:28:04

So that he is my employer.

1:28:06

Um so uh as far as Davis Square goes, I think we all we all know we've we've we've provided a lot of resources to Davis Square in the last month.

1:28:13

We rant up a um our own plan along with other you know partners within the city, HHS, uh DPW, ISD, you name it.

1:28:22

And we've uh dedicated a ton of resources to Davis Square starting May 1st.

1:28:26

Right now, uh to date, I I think we've made some serious, as far as the police goes, we made some serious inroads into Davis Square in the open drug use and general drug use within the community.

1:28:38

Uh we've dedicated cars four, five uh five, six, and seven, the cars dedicated to the west side of the Somerville, are all uh committed to doing PWTs and positive contacts in Davis Square and around Davis Square, Seven Hills Park, Statue Park.

1:28:51

And I will get to Hodgkin's park as well because I know that's a specific concern to the chair.

1:28:55

Um right now to date, um, you know, every week, every Monday morning I get a report from my crime analyst regarding our police activity in Davis Square.

1:29:04

But last week, it's for example, we had 29 positive contacts every day last week.

1:29:09

That's director patrols, park walking talks, business contacts, and citizen contacts.

1:29:14

Um that's 29 a day.

1:29:16

It's pretty it's pretty impressive.

1:29:17

Our officers are working very hard in the west side of the city.

1:29:20

Uh, we made some a significant amount of arrests regarding uh drug use, warrant arrests, uh just general um nuisance arrests.

1:29:29

You know, we were just holding everyone to the same standard, Davis Square, the mortaring public, uh, anyone homeless, uh, you know, those suffering with uh mental illness and drug addiction, we're treating everyone the same.

1:29:39

And we're holding everyone to a certain uh level of decorum in Davis Square.

1:29:43

Um, you know, we did it last year.

1:29:45

We've actually ramped it up even more this year with the encouragement of the mayor.

1:29:50

And I think we we have gotten a lot of positive feedback from the community as is as a result of our presence in Davis Square, specifically as as for uh Hodgkin's park.

1:30:02

I had reached out to our offices working in that area.

1:30:04

Oh, in addition, we've also put uh playing clothes assignments down there as well.

1:30:09

We have our uh community action team and officers on overtime playing clause, working with detectives uh to address the issues that you that are difficult to address when you're in uniform.

1:30:18

Uh as far as Hodgkin's park goes, I did reach out to the officers working in that area in and added that.

1:30:24

Although it is included in the General Davis Square area, I think you know sometimes you get too focused on the square itself.

1:30:30

And I've asked those officers to start um you know spreading out a little bit into the neighboring communities, uh, you know, be it Hodkins Park, Henny Park, uh, and more down towards the Cambridge line into that neighborhood as well, beyond Seven Hills Park, um, and out the bike path um east towards Willows.

1:30:48

We are expanding our resources there as well.

1:30:51

As far as uh as far as Hodgkin's park, I will say that although I would like to see more uh in the month of June, we did do 14 uh well, I'm sorry, 12 director patrols or positive contacts in the park alone.

1:31:05

Uh again, I would like to see at least once a day one a day, and I'm gonna be encouraging that moving forward.

1:31:10

And um, I will know we have found some hypodermic meals in the park.

1:31:13

We've been alerted to them, but as always, um I encourage constituents.

1:31:17

I say it myself when I talk to them, and I'd ask the city council to speak with their constituents when they you know speak with you, and you go, please call us.

1:31:24

A lot of times people will say, Well, I don't see the police in the park.

1:31:27

And and you know, please call us.

1:31:29

You know, we we base we we we dedicate our resources based on your crime data and constituent feedback.

1:31:36

So if they're seeing something instead in in Hodgins Park, you know, where I played little league, miners, little league.

1:31:42

Um, you know, I encourage people to call us because that's how we dedicate our resources.

1:31:46

So I'm happy to take any questions from the committee or any uh members attending.

1:31:51

Any questions from the committee?

1:31:58

I have no questions.

1:31:59

I'll just comment that I've been in Davis Square quite a bit lately and have definitely noticed uh improvements.

1:32:05

Uh so thank you very much for the update.

1:32:07

Uh if there's no discussion, uh I'll just lay this item on the tail on the table and mark it work complete.

1:32:14

Thank you, Mr.

1:32:15

Chair.

1:32:15

Uh, to the to the committee.

1:32:16

Uh, you know, happy fourth of July.

1:32:18

Happy fourth.

1:32:19

Thank you.

1:32:21

Next item, Director.

1:32:24

Three, Mr.

1:32:24

Chair.

1:32:25

Addend item number five.

1:32:27

260944.

1:32:32

Um, I want to wait on that one.

1:32:34

Let's get to other items.

1:32:35

Okay.

1:32:36

Uh agenda item number 15.

1:32:42

See.

1:32:46

Sure.

1:32:46

Let's take that one up.

1:32:48

All right.

1:32:48

Agenda item 15, ID number 26-0125.

1:32:54

The city council calls for an end to period poverty and an end to barriers, making it difficult for residents to be able to afford menstrual products in summer.

1:33:02

I'm sorry, director, I should ask that last item that I we didn't discuss.

1:33:07

Are people waiting on that?

1:33:08

Can't I just want to get other items out of the way?

1:33:12

Uh Mr.

1:33:13

Chair, yes.

1:33:14

I believe we haven't sent it all in here to speak to agenda item number five, which is a PD item.

1:33:20

All right, let's check that item up.

1:33:22

Sorry.

1:33:25

All right, agenda item number five, ID number 26-094.

1:33:30

That the chief of police provide documentation in writing regarding the circumstances surrounding cyclists, traffic enforcement in Union Square on the morning of May 28th.

1:33:40

All right, Lieutenant Holland, are you here to discuss us?

1:33:43

Yes, I am.

1:33:44

All right, thank you.

1:33:45

You have the floor.

1:33:46

All right, thank you.

1:33:48

So on uh May 28th, we were given a request.

1:33:55

Well, a couple of days before, given a request for red light enforcement in Union Square, specifically at Washington and Webster Avenue in the morning during rush hour traffic.

1:34:07

Uh so we sent Officer Collette out there specifically to monitor that area.

1:34:12

He conducted five stops, uh, one motor vehicle, which was issued a monetary fine, and then four bicycle stops for violating the red lights there.

1:34:24

And they were issued all written warnings.

1:34:28

Um that request came from uh the chief from the mayor for to me from the chief, and then to him from the mayor's office.

1:34:39

All right.

1:34:40

So, Officer uh Lieutenant uh was this at anything to do with uh any grants from the state around traffic enforcement?

1:34:47

Oh, sorry.

1:34:48

Uh no, it was not.

1:34:49

It was uh Officer Collette's regular shift.

1:34:51

He's a traffic, he's assigned to the traffic department.

1:34:54

Uh he is he works Monday through Friday days uh uh seven to three, and that was during his regular shift, and that is all he does is traffic enforcement.

1:35:04

Thank you.

1:35:05

Any questions from the committee?

1:35:10

Seeing none of the sidems laid on the table with uh Markwork complete.

1:35:14

Thank you very much.

1:35:15

Thank you.

1:35:19

Now back to the other item.

1:35:30

All right, we've already read this into the record, so just confirm item 15, ID 26 slash 0125.

1:35:37

Yes, thank you.

1:35:39

Period poverty.

1:35:40

I see Director Carroll with unmuted.

1:35:43

I assume you're here to speak on this item.

1:35:46

Yes.

1:35:47

Through the chair, I am.

1:35:48

Thank you for the opportunity to speak on this item, as well as some related information on what the city is doing in various city buildings.

1:35:57

Um, approximately one in four persons who menstruate struggle to afford period products.

1:36:03

One in three students miss class time regularly due to period having their period um products can cost up to $13 a month, and some of these products are taxed as well.

1:36:17

SNAP does not cover them, nor do many food pantries.

1:36:20

So this is um a significant issue that can affect uh families, uh people missing work, people missing school.

1:36:28

Um it's been something that counselor Strezzo has discussed with me since I've started.

1:36:34

We launched a pilot two years ago of um five locations, six locations for free period product dispensers through a company uh called Citron, and they both service the machines and fill them, keep them restocked, and provide some very baseline data for a monthly uh contract fee through HHS.

1:36:57

The product, the pilot has been well utilized and um has continued.

1:37:03

Funding through the council has been uh renewed so that we can continue this pro this um initiative in the city.

1:37:12

Um so there are two other related items on the agenda about that ask for details around locations and things.

1:37:21

I don't know if you'd like me to continue with those or if there are questions on the issue of period poverty.

1:37:31

Director Nature and Willems.

1:37:34

Through the chair, if uh you find appropriate, perhaps we could take up this item.

1:37:39

So it's agenda item number 15 along with agenda items 18 and 19, um, as they are also on the same topic of um menstrual products.

1:37:49

It's very appropriate.

1:37:50

Please read those items.

1:37:52

All right, so this says item 15 being taken up with items 18 and 19, uh 18 ID number 26-0099 that the director of helping human services immediately installed menstrual product dispensers on each floor of City Hall that provide free menstrual products.

1:38:09

And item number 19 that the director, oh ID number 26-0098 that the director of help and human services immediately install menstrual product dispensers that provide free menstrual products in all city-owned bathrooms.

1:38:24

All right, Director Carroll, you have it again.

1:38:27

Great.

1:38:27

Um, through the chair, thank you for that.

1:38:30

Um, on the item around city halls, we have installed about four or five months ago.

1:38:37

There were um dispensers installed into the public bathrooms in all three levels of City Hall.

1:38:43

All three bathrooms, I'm sorry, uh, in within City Hall.

1:38:46

So I'm happy to report that those are installed, that they're going well, being well utilized, and again, they are part of the Citron contract.

1:38:56

We were able to add them to our contract.

1:38:58

So to move on to um the number 0098, where are they located within the city to ensure that all city-owned bathrooms have them?

1:39:10

At this point, I can say that the Somerville Public Schools has multiple locations with either dispensers or um nurse-provided products.

1:39:21

Um those are purchased through the school, and the DPW maintain custodial team maintains the dispensers that are being utilized, with the exception of one that was at the Edger Lee, the old Edger Lee, which was the old teen space.

1:39:39

Um, and there, so that one remained there in in the school in the Winter Hill Gym.

1:39:45

Um the pilot through through HHS is has sites at Soya, the public bathrooms at Soya, the Annex, Project Soup, Teen Spaces at Powder House, again, uh the three at City Hall and the Winter Hill Gym.

1:40:01

DPW, I do not believe has dispensers at this point in time.

1:40:06

Libraries have multiple locations with dispensers in many of their bathrooms.

1:40:12

They maintain their own contract with a vendor, and I do not know who that vendor is.

1:40:19

And then finally, um period products are available through our public health vending machines located in two locations throughout the city.

1:40:27

Those are funded by opiate funds and managed by HHS staff and an outside contractor who who stocks those and maintains the public health vending machines.

1:40:40

I think that's it for my update.

1:40:47

Any discussion from the committee.

1:40:54

Thank you for the update, Director.

1:40:56

I I had a question on the very last one.

1:40:58

Uh that opioid funds are being used for menstrual products.

1:41:03

Could you explain that one for me?

1:41:07

Through the chair.

1:41:09

Um, yes, our opiate funds are used to maintain and to uh rent those public health vending machines, the contract with the company that maintains them.

1:41:22

And when we did the initial assessment, which is part of the requirement of using opiate funds, is you need to speak with many people and run focus groups asking individuals who have used drugs who have been affected by substance misuse in their family or their friends, and obtain feedback about what they need.

1:41:43

And we heard loud and clear over and over in our focus groups that they need not only harm reduction supplies to manage their substance use disorder or to prevent an overdose like Narcan, but they need access to basic needs, and they need them where they are in the community, not in a doctor's office or in a clinic that they might have to get to.

1:42:05

Um so again, that's why the public health vending machines are opiate funding, and um they contain a wide range of public health items, including many survival items that people would need if they are living outside.

1:42:22

Excellent.

1:42:22

Thank you.

1:42:23

Thank you for the point of clarification through the chair.

1:42:26

Thank you.

1:42:27

Uh, any other discussion.

1:42:30

Seeing none, thank you for the update.

1:42:32

This item will be laid on the table and mock or complete.

1:42:37

Next item, Director Nigem Williams.

1:42:46

Let's see, zero number six.

1:42:48

Yes.

1:42:49

Thank you.

1:42:51

All right, agenda item 70, 17 ID number 26-0106.

1:42:56

Let the administration provide monthly updates to the committee on public health and public safety on progress towards addressing homelessness in Somerville.

1:43:04

Uh it's been more than a month, but that's on me.

1:43:07

So uh Director Carol, uh, do you have any updates for us?

1:43:11

Uh yes, through the chair.

1:43:13

Uh, thank you for the request for regular updates.

1:43:16

Um, as you'll see in the report I attached, we are playing around.

1:43:20

The prevention team has developed a kind of template for the committee to use if it's helpful.

1:43:26

So um, in if there are other topics that you would like me to address on a regular basis, we can certainly add them to this uh report.

1:43:35

So it just kind of groups things to help us all keep track.

1:43:38

Um, new services and changes, there really aren't many at this point, other than with the expected heat wave that we are facing.

1:43:47

We are very concerned about our unhoused population.

1:43:50

So there have been significant efforts and partnerships to ensure water and other supplies are available, that people know where they can go to cool down, etc.

1:44:01

Um, sheltering service is the next category.

1:44:05

I think you are all aware, but in case you are not, that the Somerville Homeless Coalition has been able to open and start operating their new shelter, which is accessible and it's located in Davis Square.

1:44:17

It opened, I believe, at the end of May or early June, with 10 additional beds that were funded by the city.

1:44:25

In terms of day resources for the unhoused, again, our colleagues and partners at the Somerville Homeless Coalition were able to move into a new larger um many advantages with the space for them and their operations in Davis Square, again, their day engagement center.

1:44:46

Um during the extreme heat, they've been able to stay open through lunch hours, which is also helpful.

1:44:53

Um, and the day the new day engagement center also allows space for additional lockers.

1:45:00

So if city staff or DPW do find belongings that are unattended, they can be kept there while we try to locate the owners.

1:45:09

Updates from the weekly huddle.

1:45:11

Again, this is a huddle that HHS runs, but participants from all over the city, including police, DPW, many city departments, as well as Somerville Homeless Coalition from the outside.

1:45:23

We meet weekly.

1:45:25

We discuss issues.

1:45:56

So I added it to our report.

1:45:58

It won't change much through the year, but I don't think I've reported to the committee since the pit count.

1:46:04

The point in time was done in January, which is our most accurate count of our annual census of unhoused.

1:46:12

The numbers did go up a little bit from last previous years.

1:46:18

Unsheltered individuals on that night were 31.

1:46:22

And sheltered individuals, including our warming center, were 148 in the city of Somerville.

1:46:30

Community concerns.

1:46:39

I can't remember this spring at some point.

1:46:42

There was several residents attended and city staff, answered questions, and had some concrete follow-up items.

1:46:50

So we'll come back to this committee as we explore some of the concerns that were raised in the meeting.

1:46:58

Opportunities to assist, I think is always really important when people like to know how to help.

1:47:04

We have our website with information about what to do and how to help.

1:47:10

If you see someone in distress in the city, including reminding people it's okay to call 911.

1:47:35

So we are looking with our teams, with our police, with our emergency management at some kind of a um support your neighbor, you know, running with this theme of helping your neighbor, um, doing some until help arrives training modified for community members who who might not know when and how to assist someone who seems distressed.

1:48:00

Or if people are unsure if someone is in distressed distress.

1:48:04

So we look forward to rolling that out as well as some educational materials.

1:48:10

Um outreach programs, nothing new there other than our police co-response program has started this spring, the pilot and going well.

1:48:19

It gives us more options and points of outreach.

1:48:23

Um, the CHW program and the SHC outreach Fenway Mobile Health.

1:48:28

So there are a number of teams and we're well coordinated to check on individuals and support folks in the community who are unhoused.

1:48:37

And then finally, the category of city resources.

1:48:39

We talked a bit about the public health vending machines.

1:48:42

Again, um the data is great.

1:48:45

They are heavily utilized.

1:48:48

We can see that people are accessing them after hours, which means that we are addressing an access problem that we thought was there.

1:48:57

Um we have just swapped out our sort of winter survival supplies to more of our summer, our heat exposure supplies, sunscreens, bug sprays, um, and water, other things people would need in the warmer weather.

1:49:13

And um, and again, those are accessible to anyone at all times of the day.

1:49:19

Um, and then finally, we just received a Department of Public Health grant to assist with the um any World Cup FEMA FIFA events, watch parties, things like that within the community.

1:49:32

The supplies again will be additional public health measures that will be open for not only the watch parties but any member of the public.

1:49:40

So it's again just another way to um make sure that our community is saturated with water wipes, bug spray wipes, um, things people need to survive in this very high heat.

1:49:54

So that's my brief update for now.

1:49:58

Thank you for your time, and I'm happy to take any questions.

1:50:02

Well, thank you.

1:50:02

On that last item, it is incredibly hot outside.

1:50:05

Uh, it's gonna get hotter tomorrow.

1:50:08

Um we've previously had discussions about cooling centers.

1:50:12

Uh, I understand the city has a few set up during the daytime, but none during the evening times.

1:50:18

I was wondering if there's been any thought or updates um regarding uh cool incentives for nighttime.

1:50:26

Um through the chair, thank you for the question.

1:50:29

Yes, there has.

1:50:30

We are watching the temperatures um actively, and we are concerned about the overnight temperatures as well.

1:50:37

This week, we do not have a series of nights that move into that very, very dangerous place.

1:50:43

But um, again, these temperatures can be dangerous at any point for anyone, especially if they are outside during the day as well.

1:50:51

So we are trying to again pass out waters, make sure people know where they can go.

1:50:56

The Somerville Homeless Coalition obviously is our largest partner with sheltering.

1:51:02

They are, you know, we'll try to extend ours, try to um allow whoever they can in, even though their capacity is also limited.

1:51:11

So it is definitely something we watch.

1:51:13

Um our emergency manager uh Bill San uh Bill Foster takes the lead in this and Lauren and they are you know, kind of looking at options should there be a major brownout or a prolonged period of heat where folks are going to need to find shelter.

1:51:34

Um at this point, we do not have any options for that.

1:51:40

Um, but we are continuing to think about what that might look like and who might be able to partner with the city to assist in some kind of an overnight cooling shelter if needed.

1:51:53

Awesome Clemen.

1:51:56

Yeah, thank you, Mr.

1:51:57

Chair.

1:51:57

Through you to the director, uh Dr.

1:51:59

Carroll.

1:52:01

If you could just like um I didn't get to look at the report, but I'm just curious.

1:52:06

Um so do when we do street outreach or we're trying to figure out what exactly like how do we come up with the number of unhoused individuals versus people who may have a place to go, but you know, either choose to hang out or do we do we have hard data on any of that.

1:52:30

Through the chair, thank you for the question.

1:52:32

Again, our most accurate data is the pit count in January, which obviously is going to take paint a different picture in January in the dead of winter than it would if you were to do this again in the middle of summer or spring.

1:52:47

Um, but it is the most accurate count we have.

1:52:50

We do know that many people will couch surf, many people will um be staying in cars.

1:52:57

The pit count will approach individuals staying in cars, and they are counted if we find them and see them.

1:53:04

It's a pretty thorough count.

1:53:06

Um, and in terms of exact numbers throughout the year, it is very difficult to assess that.

1:53:14

Um there are many, many people who are unstably housed or who are um couch surfing or in precarious housing situations.

1:53:25

And um, we know that from our case management.

1:53:29

We know that from a number of points in which individuals are accessing services from the city, including our um own housing stability office works very closely to prevent evictions and people becoming homeless.

1:53:43

And then on the homeless side, the Somerville Homeless Coalition is again working really hard to make sure folks are getting into a more stable permanent housing arrangement.

1:53:54

They would have the most accurate, I think, uh answer to your question on a day-to-day basis, and they could probably give you a pretty good ballpark figure of the number of individuals that they are working with or know in the community who are doubled up or um precariously housed.

1:54:15

Okay, yeah, no, thank you for that three, Mr.

1:54:17

Chair.

1:54:17

I just, you know, we talk about a lot of this in the abstract, especially when it comes to Davis Square and you know, being a harm reductionist myself and being somebody who's done some street outreach, and understanding the challenges of, you know.

1:54:30

A lot of times I feel like that translates to people just don't want to see people out there that they don't, you know, and some of those people are building community around, you know, whether it be uh, you know, a clinic that's in Davis Square or the shelter.

1:54:44

Um I'm just trying to this is the first time I've been on this committee in quite a long time and uh first time this committee's meeting because it's been crazy budget season.

1:54:54

And so with this issue in front of us, and this is something, you know, Davis Square isn't in my ward, but it's something that we all hear about.

1:55:01

And I actually have, you know, the Gilman Square pop-up site is in my area.

1:55:06

And um, you know, I know that uh I've talked to the individual down, at least one individual down there, and I know that he's review uh refuse services.

1:55:19

Um but can you just really quickly just walk us through like what the workflow looks like of like so from our point of view as a city?

1:55:26

Because I always felt like you know, we have some of these social workers, but I always imagine they go out, they make contact, I don't think create a file and like you know, like like have as like a case.

1:55:36

This is like one of the cases, but I always felt like they probably sort of redundantly like contacted some of the homeless coalition who then would go out and that's me.

1:55:47

Sorry.

1:55:48

And now with some homeless coalition will go out and follow up.

1:55:51

So I'm just trying to, I'm just trying again for the public watcher, anybody paying attention, I try to understand the workflow of you know, because people really have this really high expectation on the city that we can somehow either disappear people or maybe we'll go into treatment or you know, and and I just I want to have a frank discussion about at least the workflow about so they don't call us, but somebody calls us about people in an area.

1:56:13

We go down.

1:56:14

You just walk us through that.

1:56:17

So we're through the chair, excuse me.

1:56:19

Thank you for the question.

1:56:20

Um, it's complicated, and it can these again concerns come to us in a number of ways.

1:56:27

So outreach folks are out there regularly.

1:56:29

RCHWs move through the city a different location each day.

1:56:33

So they are rotating through the city constantly, and they may be meeting people, new folks, some housed, some unhoused, who need services, or who are just you know, connecting, they're just connecting with offering food, snacks, water, what whatever people need.

1:56:50

Um again, all the other outreach teams are doing the same.

1:56:53

Their regular ongoing outreach as well as our Boston Healthcare for the homeless clinic that we have, um, the city is continuing that funding.

1:57:02

So they are doing both street medicine as well as a clinic outreach.

1:57:06

So there's a number of folks who are just generally going through these areas.

1:57:10

The other way that it can happen is absolutely anyone can reach out to us.

1:57:14

So it might be a call to 311, it might be through a counselor, through one of you folks who let us know there is someone I've seen I'm concerned about.

1:57:22

There is a new encampment we're worried about.

1:57:24

There is an individual in a hammock living in a tree in a park.

1:57:28

We we want to make sure they're on someone's radar.

1:57:31

There was a fire.

1:57:32

Sean, who you met earlier, um, Captain Tierney, he he attends the huddle every Friday.

1:57:38

They will make sure that we are aware of any incidents during the week of which there were problems or a fire or or a potential fire hazard.

1:57:48

Um, and so that's largely the point of the huddle is to make sure we're sharing information and not individual names or a case management at this point.

1:57:58

It is really just a sharing of there is a location, there are individuals' need, are they on someone's radar?

1:58:04

The schools also intend as well.

1:58:06

So sometimes there are overlaps there.

1:58:09

Um and then usually several outreach teams will be following up with individuals.

1:58:16

And again, um, you know, the services range.

1:58:19

Some will be ready to come to the engagement center and start working on a housing application.

1:58:24

The Somerville Homeless Coalition, they do housing applications for the unhoused community.

1:58:31

The city does not do that.

1:58:33

So it's just it's just the way it's divided up.

1:58:36

They have the expertise.

1:58:37

This is what they do.

1:58:39

Our city works with individuals who are threatening maybe um in danger of eviction or behind on rent, those kinds of things.

1:58:48

So we have these two or two arms.

1:58:51

Our teams are really clear where to direct people, where to support people.

1:58:56

We talk regularly in addition to the huddle.

1:58:59

Um, there are conversations between our CHWs and the teams at uh Somerville Homeless Coalition, if they're worried, if there are resources that one needs, um, we have backpacks through our CHW program where we hand out chargers, we hand out um basic supplies, uh safety items.

1:59:20

So they will let us know if there's a need for that.

1:59:23

We will reach out if we have been contacted by uh usually DPW or 311 that there are unattended belongings.

1:59:31

And I briefly mentioned some policies that the city has worked on recently to ensure that if those belongings are found, there is a mechanism to flag them, let folks know, um, our outreach teams know they try to find who they might belong to.

1:59:48

We put a flag, uh tag on those belongings.

1:59:51

And then if after, you know, whatever 78 74 hours or 72 hours, um, no one claims them, they they are taken down to um the Somerville Homeless Coalition to be stored, and they will further try to figure out whose belongings they are.

2:00:07

Um, so there is no one you know linear workflow in in terms of um databases.

2:00:14

Every there are certain databases that are capturing a lot of this work.

2:00:18

Our community health workers are trialing a platform, a software called the Dimage software, and they are tracking the work they do daily.

2:00:27

So and the referrals through that.

2:00:29

Um the SHC engagement center will be reporting to the state as well, and they have their own tracking mechanisms.

2:00:37

So happy to come back to the key committee.

2:00:39

And you know, maybe that's something we toy with adding to this report is some referral data.

2:00:45

The CHWs could give you uh a sense of where and how often they are referring individuals that they meet in the community or what the common needs and supplies or resources that we get asked for.

2:00:59

So happy to, you know, dive into that more deeply in the future.

2:01:04

Uh thank you, Mr.

2:01:05

Um, thank you, director, and thank you, Mr.

2:01:07

President, through you.

2:01:08

Yeah, I mean, that's sounds like I mean, first of all, it's not my order.

2:01:11

I don't know that month.

2:01:12

I mean, I guess if if it's a monthly, you know, kind of like I mean, if you if you all are doing all that, I mean, I think it would be clear to anybody watching this meeting um that we take this issue very seriously, and we're doing everything we can to meet people where they are when they're ready to do what what you know, take those next steps with there.

2:01:30

And I just want that to be on record at this moment because I know that this community is upset right now that we did lose a uh community member, um, a woman who was an ismorable.

2:01:41

Um, who, you know, and I know we need to do more around supportive housing.

2:01:45

Um, and and maybe there if there was other options.

2:01:47

Um, I don't know that we can solve this as a city in Miss Valley with the lack of funding we have, but certainly um there is the question of if there was other options, you know, put her her passing minute avoided.

2:02:01

But I definitely it definitely sounds like this as a city, we're doing and working with our partners doing a lot to again support our uh folks in the community, be it you know on house or otherwise.

2:02:14

Um, but certainly um getting out there and and and talking to folks who are on the house.

2:02:19

So thank you for the work you're all doing.

2:02:21

And um, yeah, whatever whatever data you can put in to any of these reports, I'm sure will be much appreciated.

2:02:27

Um, and that I wasn't really looking, I wasn't trying to put you on the spot.

2:02:30

I was just more thinking like, you know, it would be nice to hear successes like, oh, yeah, we made contact with this one person and you know, you know, to get details, but like, you know, and then they ended up uh, you know, and they're currently housed.

2:02:42

You know, I mean, those are the type of things that we feel like we're having an impact on what we're doing.

2:02:46

So um, but thank you for this.

2:02:48

I appreciate it.

2:02:51

You're welcome.

2:02:52

And through the chair, I know Counselor McLaughlin has invited SHC to come.

2:02:57

They they are you know the um the advocates uh for this population with the most expertise in history here in the city.

2:03:07

And they will often come to Friday Huddle and pretty much bring the group to tears with a success story, someone who's been housed finely or um something like that.

2:03:17

So happy to share what we have, our data, um, and encourage you to invite them as well to give you because they really are the lead agency serving this population uh in the city.

2:03:38

You're muted.

2:03:46

There we go.

2:03:47

See you no further discussion.

2:03:49

This item will be left in committee.

2:03:53

Thank you and good night.

2:03:54

Thank you.

2:03:55

What do we got next, Director?

2:03:58

Uh thank you, Mr.

2:03:59

Chair.

2:03:59

Uh, I'd like to propose maybe taking up items 13 and 14 together.

2:04:05

We see these items.

2:04:12

Uh are you?

2:04:13

Is there anyone from the city here for this?

2:04:16

Yes.

2:04:16

Uh PSFA project manager at the end of the day.

2:04:20

Okay.

2:04:20

We'll take it off.

2:04:21

I feel like this is longer than a 30-minute conversation, but let's give it a shot.

2:04:27

All right, items 13 and 14 to be taken up together.

2:04:30

Item 13, ID number 26-0348, conveying public safety for all findings and current initiatives.

2:04:37

Item 14, ID number 26-0243.

2:04:41

That the director of racial and social justice provide an update to this council on the status of the police civilian oversight committee.

2:04:51

You have the floor, Sarah.

2:04:53

Thank you, Mr.

2:04:54

Chair.

2:04:54

Thanks for having me this evening.

2:04:55

Uh credit, your composure tonight amid this Jalen Brown trade.

2:05:00

So thank you for still holding this meeting amid that.

2:05:06

Oh wow.

2:05:07

Okay.

2:05:08

I believe I have a PowerPoint to share.

2:05:11

I know that's the last thing you want to see after two hours, but um as this is my first appearance before the committee, it's helpful for me to be able to quickly walk through the work I've done since joining the city at the end of 2025.

2:05:24

Um I will be brief and then I certainly will, you know, be available for questions from you to move forward if that sounds good.

2:05:33

I am curious if we could see what Madel Clark, how many more items do we have in committee.

2:05:48

If I'm actually off to IG Director and Agent Williams, um I have lost count at this point, so could take me a sec.

2:05:57

Director, are there any other items that city staff are here for?

2:06:00

Uh three, Mr.

2:06:02

Chair.

2:06:02

The only other items that city staff are here for is agenda item eight and 16.

2:06:06

And I am here to dig those updates.

2:06:09

Very brief.

2:06:10

All right.

2:06:11

Uh I I hate to not give you the due time for this item.

2:06:16

Uh so, but if you could please give a brief update, uh, and then we will we will ask questions and hopefully get through this.

2:06:24

Uh sorry to keep you waiting.

2:06:25

I I do like to um not spend too not go over time because we end up losing track of important issues like this, but please proceed.

2:06:34

Understood.

2:06:35

I will be as brief as I can be.

2:06:37

Um quickly, if you want to just scroll down.

2:06:40

Um thank you.

2:06:43

Um, as you're all aware, um, yeah, there's a public safety for all process that began with the Department of Racial and Social Justice in September of 2022.

2:06:51

Um, this sort of led to the development of a survey that recommended the creation of two public task forces.

2:06:58

Um, next slide, please.

2:07:00

Um, that uh event uh ended up as the public safety for all task force, the civilian oversight task force and the anti-violence working group.

2:07:08

Um, and this led to a number of kind of recommendations and considerations in February of 2025.

2:07:13

Um, and I just want to give a quick overview of what those were.

2:07:17

Um, the main primary ones from the PSFA task force were the co-response model, civil service bid reform, body worm cameras, civilians in Somerville Police Department, mainly through property investigation and uh training for Somerville Police Department uh centered around crisis uh informed uh training.

2:07:36

So the next one was the civilian oversight task force that had a broader task to create a roadmap to creating a former civilian oversight for uh public safety in the community that had these primary goals and tasks in mind.

2:07:50

Next slide.

2:07:53

Finally, there was the uh anti-violence working group that had a number of recommendations centered around a public education campaign around transit safety, um, gun and gang violence, connecting youth to community programming, domestic violence ideas and uh engagement uh topics that were discussed, along with an idea for quarterly meetings with stakeholders to discuss and share existing data in the community around domestic violence.

2:08:17

Next slide.

2:08:19

So uh it's part of my onboarding at the end of 2025.

2:08:22

There was sort of a three-month process where I had the opportunity to speak with 16 city departments um as part of sort of a formal interview process, and I submitted a findings memo from this um that discussed both sort of the recommendations directly that came from the public safety for all task forces.

2:08:38

I believe there were something like 72 subtask recommendations that I cataloged, um, along with broader sort of conversations around how public health and public safety collaborate with one another in the city currently and the opportunities and challenges for departments to do so moving forward.

2:08:54

So uh I can quickly move on to the current initiatives, Chair, or if you'd like to ask any questions around that background before I proceed.

2:09:01

Gave Rollin.

2:09:02

Thank you.

2:09:03

So there I want to just go quickly over some current initiatives that have occurred in 2026 so far.

2:09:09

So obviously, we applied for a co-response grant in January of 2026 with the Department of Mental Health.

2:09:15

We are still waiting to hear back from uh the state on that grant.

2:09:19

The hope is to fund full-time staff positions for the co-response program um through that grant in the future.

2:09:26

Um we will keep you updated when we hear back on this grant, obviously.

2:09:30

Um, in the meantime, we've launched this pilot in June of 2026.

2:09:34

Um, this is seeing uh the community outreach health and recovery staff worker um engage in eight hours of co-response, two days a week, four hour shifts to evaluate uh the pilot, evaluate sort of what comes up when co-response occurs in the community, um, best practices as we learn for uh moving forward with full program implementation.

2:09:55

We partnered with SummerStat on the evaluation of that pilot.

2:10:00

Um, we've also had Harvard Kennedy School complete a uh qualitative and quantitative study on dispatch protocols and sort of strategies for future implementation um in the years proceed if this program were to move forward.

2:10:11

Next slide.

2:10:14

As you're all aware, um, you know, we applied for a grant uh at the end of 2025 for body worn cameras.

2:10:21

Um, this is one of the first track tasks that came across my desk when I took the position at the end of 2025.

2:10:26

Um, as we're also aware, we received a word in March of this year that we had been uh awarded 231,000 uh to uh implement the procurement and technology for this program.

2:10:37

Um and we've been working with the council um and community stakeholders ever since um to move this forward uh via the surveillance technology ordinance um and to also ultimately have the grants funds approved by the city council.

2:10:51

Um I will note that that grant will expire August 31st.

2:10:55

Um, and we've reached out to the state on this matter, um, and there will be no contract extension for the grant itself.

2:11:01

Um, and so if we do not uh end up approving this by the 31st of August, um those grant funds will go by the wayside.

2:11:08

Wanted to be very clear on that this evening.

2:11:10

Next slide.

2:11:13

Um I'll be brief on this.

2:11:14

Um, this has been sort of an initiative that came out of my broader conversations with public safety and public health staff around the idea of how they collaborate with one another on issues of substance abuse, mental illness, um, the unhoused population in the community of Somerville.

2:11:30

Um, there has been a number of uh asks from staff on how they can sort of collaborate more intentionally on sort of the hardest cases here in the community.

2:11:40

Um and I have been deeply exploring the idea of a hub situation table model.

2:11:45

Um, this has sort of taken steam uh in the community of Chelsea in just since 2014.

2:11:51

Um, this basically addresses to create uh wraparound service in a very intentional way for the most emergency-based cases that come up in our community uh that are raised by either the Summerville Police Department, uh Health and Human Services or external partners that may participate in the model like this.

2:12:08

Um really excited about this idea.

2:12:10

Um, and at this point, um, we're working currently with staff and external partners to try to move this forward and would love the opportunity to talk about this more with you all in the future.

2:12:19

Um as I know our time is limited.

2:12:21

This is a larger project that I'm really excited about, um, but wanted to make sure it's on your radar moving forward as the administration and myself are excited about it.

2:12:30

Next slide.

2:12:32

Uh, as the other agenda item referenced, um, part of my log as uh onboarding was the implementation of this civilian oversight board.

2:12:41

I wanted to give a quick update on that here.

2:12:43

Um we've had conversations with Cambridge on their model.

2:12:46

Um their uh executive director has been very helpful in conversations with me on this.

2:12:50

Obviously, you're aware of the existence of post as a state entity for a public safety oversight in the state, which is complicated matters and getting this off the ground or sort of understanding the mission and task of it with the state involved uh currently through post.

2:13:05

Um, but we've heard loud and clear from folks that people want to move forward with this.

2:13:09

Um, so we've created a job description for a police accountability board program director.

2:13:14

We put that in the budget this past cycle.

2:13:18

We're excited to move forward and work with the council on this on establishing an ordinance to create this.

2:13:22

Um, I will say, you know, we're hoping that uh body worn cameras will be an important tool uh for this police accountability board in the future.

2:13:31

Um, as I've heard from task force members on both of these task forces that they believe it's an important cog in the ability to practice actual accountability and oversight for the police if we are to move forward with this recommendation.

2:13:44

Next slide.

2:13:46

Lastly, you know, I've held a number of one-on-one meetings with former task members, both constituents that live in the community and subject matter experts, or in the case of many people who are constituents who are also subject matter experts on these uh issues and more.

2:14:01

Um and we're continuing to have community involvement through this community education work, through work reaching out to the council themselves as these issues are debated and discussed and keeping them abreast of all the incredible work they did and how we're moving forward with it in the future.

2:14:14

So I will stop there and uh answer any questions you may have, Chair.

2:14:18

Thank you.

2:14:19

Uh Clark, could you please pull up the agenda items again?

2:14:25

And I counted we have five left.

2:14:28

Six, eight, ten, twelve, sixteen.

2:14:31

All right, thank you.

2:14:32

Well, can you pull up the current items, pull it up on the agenda?

2:14:37

13 and 14, Chair.

2:14:39

13, 14, thank you.

2:14:41

Okay, this explains it.

2:14:43

So 13, let's see.

2:14:45

Well, you provided us an update.

2:14:47

Thank you for that.

2:14:49

And the other was a communication.

2:14:52

I'm very excited to hear about all the things you're doing.

2:14:54

Um, fortunately, I think this is not a committee that needs convincing that you're doing good work.

2:15:00

So I have no questions.

2:15:02

I'm like what you're talking about, and I support it.

2:15:06

Council Clinton.

2:15:08

Thank you, Mr.

2:15:08

Chair Through.

2:15:09

So the second order there, 14, it says the status of a police civilian oversight committee.

2:15:15

We're calling it something different, right?

2:15:17

In your slideshow, you just said what is it called in the through the chair.

2:15:22

It's uh we're calling the police accountability board.

2:15:27

Okay.

2:15:28

And um there was a position put in.

2:15:30

So the update basically, like there was a position put into the budget or director.

2:15:36

Um I guess we can, like you said, go over another time, sort of like build on the presentation that you showed as far as questions we might have around um what that body would ultimately look like, how it'll be constituted.

2:15:52

Um is there a framework for that already?

2:15:54

Is that in the in the oh we have somebody's hand up?

2:15:59

Director Nagram Williams.

2:16:03

Um just kidding backing a bit on um Project Manager Hillman's presentation.

2:16:10

Uh the goal of the administration is to have this body uh at the start of calendar year 2027.

2:16:19

Um, but before that, the hope is that we can get an ordinance in place that describes the functions, the composition, the roles of what that body is.

2:16:29

Um and I know that project manager beheldman is being um a key part of that getting the infrastructure set up so that uh when the the names escape me right now, but the position that will be overseeing this body is here.

2:16:44

It's kind of uh a nice little handoff in within the work.

2:16:50

Thank you, Mr.

2:16:51

President.

2:16:52

Um, that sounds like a pretty tall order considering you know, um as a body, uh you know, we're on break, and then we come back.

2:17:00

Um, I mean it sounds pretty ambitious, but maybe you know, calendar 2027.

2:17:05

Uh maybe maybe possible.

2:17:07

Um, all right.

2:17:07

So this forward motion.

2:17:08

This is moving.

2:17:09

This is great.

2:17:10

Um I know a thank you to the work that you did as the director uh of RSJ and a lot of this happened under you.

2:17:18

Um, but yeah, thank you to the current um director of uh oh god, man.

2:17:25

This is too many titles.

2:17:26

What is your official title?

2:17:27

This way.

2:17:28

Yeah, through the chair.

2:17:29

It's public safety for all project manager.

2:17:31

Project stage are public manager.

2:17:33

Okay, public safety rule.

2:17:34

All right, yeah, so thank you for that.

2:17:35

And uh yeah, looking forward to hearing more in the future.

2:17:38

Yeah.

2:17:40

All right.

2:17:41

I appreciate it.

2:17:43

I again, not to be facetious.

2:17:45

Uh I think it's good stuff.

2:17:46

I have no questions, and I look forward to it to move.

2:17:49

Implementation.

2:17:50

Uh, these items will be laid on the table and mark work complete.

2:17:54

Thank you, Chair.

2:17:55

Thank you.

2:17:58

Next item, Director.

2:18:00

Let's see what we can do.

2:18:01

Thank you, Mr.

2:18:02

Chair.

2:18:03

Um, agenda item 16.

2:18:08

Item 16.

2:18:13

Any update there?

2:18:14

Yeah, please read the item.

2:18:16

Item 16, ID number 26-0108, that the commissioner of public works install privacy film and replace the shades of the women's bathroom on the second floor of City Hall.

2:18:27

And the updates.

2:18:29

Uh Mr.

2:18:30

Chair, this work was completed, I believe, uh, in February of 2026.

2:18:36

Excellent.

2:18:37

This item will be laid on the table and marked work complete.

2:18:42

Next item.

2:18:44

Uh agenda item.

2:18:46

Thank you, Mr.

2:18:47

Chair.

2:18:47

Agenda item number eight.

2:18:49

Eight.

2:18:50

Yes.

2:18:56

Uh, time.

2:18:57

Okay, please read the item.

2:18:59

Right.

2:18:59

Item number eight, number 26 slash 0825.

2:19:02

That the administration submit a written report to this council regarding the timeline and process for staffing the Americans with the disabilities coordinator role.

2:19:10

And update this council on the plans or process 88 complaints and accessibility coordination when this position is vacant.

2:19:16

Okay.

2:19:17

So there's no more city staff here, correct?

2:19:20

No one's waiting on us.

2:19:23

No, they tell us.

2:19:24

Okay.

2:19:25

Uh, do you have an update on this?

2:19:27

I do, Mr.

2:19:28

Chair.

2:19:28

Um, I realize that this item was also like part of this communication we went to HCDE.

2:19:34

Um, so we provided that memo and sort of memos here.

2:19:38

It somehow was separated in that way.

2:19:40

But um, all that to say the ADA coordinator, what the role that was traditionally the ADA coordinator has been updated.

2:19:48

Oh, thank you, Clark, for putting up this memo.

2:19:51

Um, that kind of conveys the information.

2:19:53

So um key things, the 88 coordinator is been transitioned into the 88th coordinator and investigator position.

2:20:00

Uh, this position will live in um uh ethnic resources.

2:20:06

Um moving forward, the position was posted on May 20th.

2:20:10

It has since been taken down.

2:20:12

Um, we've received a lot of great candidates.

2:20:15

My understanding um from our human resources team is that folks are moving through phone screens and presumably uh first rounds will be some following soon.

2:20:24

Um, and the interim, our chief administrative officer, as well as um our engineering team and folks from RSJ and the mayor's uh public liaison have been engineering sources, have been filling in the gaps um where appropriate for the tasks and responsibilities that were previously under the 88 coordinator.

2:20:46

Okay.

2:20:51

That's not a real question.

2:20:52

Don't worry, Council McClingen.

2:20:54

Yes, but this is great.

2:20:56

That's a great update.

2:20:57

Uh you guys move fast.

2:20:59

I love it.

2:20:59

I love C action.

2:21:01

Uh, I think that's a smart idea to um couple it with the RJ and the investigator, because I think you know a lot of the complaints are ADA related, so I think it made this makes total sense to me.

2:21:10

Housing it in HR.

2:21:12

Um, you know, that's neither here nor there, but but I think it's decent enough place for it.

2:21:16

So thank you.

2:21:17

Right.

2:21:18

And we'll miss the chair through mute to have the pain uh just to be clear the ADA coordinator investigator position is not merging the pieces that was previously with the RSJ investigator.

2:21:29

Um, this is uh predominantly gonna be HR focused investigation and ADA related items.

2:21:37

So this role will not be taken along the work that was previously under the RSJ investigator, but I believe I could if helpful I could also find the job description and send that along so that folks have a better understanding of what this new role will be doing.

2:21:55

Yeah, all right.

2:21:56

This items laid on the table, mark work complete.

2:22:03

All right, let's see what more we can get in six minutes, Mr.

2:22:11

Chair.

2:22:12

Yes, one of those items is like a public comment, and I didn't know if there was any written communication that we didn't get, or I know obviously the um the animal control office is not here.

2:22:24

Uh, but I didn't know that the letter is directed to the administration as far as you know what more we can do to curb off leash um things.

2:22:33

So I'm just curious if you know if we can't address that one now, maybe keep it in committee, but I think it's worth addressing committee.

2:22:43

Uh we'll keep that one in commit committee and uh what's the next item?

2:22:48

Chairman Goffman, if we could just quickly read that into the record.

2:22:51

Um item number six, ID 26-0914.

2:22:55

Christopher Rose will submit any comments regarding off leash dogs, and that will be kept in committee.

2:22:59

Thank you.

2:23:00

Thank you.

2:23:02

Next item.

2:23:10

Is there anything else you need, Director?

2:23:12

Uh, out of order, or can we just return to the regular order business?

2:23:18

I believe the regular order of business okay.

2:23:22

Well, start back at the top.

2:23:24

I believe we just have items 10 and 12 remaining.

2:23:27

Let me read them real quick.

2:23:30

Well, it's trash barrel latches, that's yours.

2:23:33

Oh, yeah.

2:23:34

Let's keep that in committee, unless you have an update.

2:23:37

Do you have a quick update on that, Director?

2:23:40

Read item 10.

2:23:41

No updates, we're keeping it in committee.

2:23:43

Uh, you can read it in the committee.

2:23:46

ID Clark, I don't think we don't need to read the item if we don't take the item up.

2:23:50

Uh, it'll just be presumed to be left in committee.

2:23:53

Got it.

2:23:55

Uh and then let's see, neighborhood council submitting let's keep that in committee as well, because I have more questions on that.

2:24:06

Yeah.

2:24:07

Are those the last items?

2:24:12

Okay.

2:24:13

Well, I think we got a lot done in a very brief period.

2:24:16

Um thank you, everybody.

2:24:19

Uh, with no, unless there's any further discussion.

2:24:22

Anything for you, Director.

2:24:25

Thank you, Mr.

2:24:26

Chair and have it this time.

2:24:27

Thank you.

2:24:28

Very good.

2:24:28

Uh Council Klingon moves to adjourn.

2:24:30

And I guess we'll take up the items as well first.

2:24:35

Yep.

2:24:35

So do you want to do that together or separately?

2:24:38

We'll do it all together.

2:24:39

Okay.

2:24:40

On approval of the minutes, items one and two and adjournment.

2:24:44

Councilor Stressor.

2:24:46

Or Councilor Sae.

2:24:47

Counselor Klingon.

2:24:49

Yes.

2:24:51

Chairman Gofflin.

2:24:52

Yes.

2:24:53

All right, with that, it is 8 58 p.m.

2:24:55

and those minutes are approved.

2:24:57

And we are adjourned.

2:24:58

All right, thank you, everyone.

2:24:59

Good work.

2:25:00

Good work.

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Summary of Proceedings

Somerville City Council Public Health and Public Safety Committee Meeting – July 2, 2026

The Somerville City Council Public Health and Public Safety Committee met on July 2, 2026, to discuss a broad agenda addressing drug activity in Davis Square, conditions at the Broadway Salvation Army site, cyclist enforcement, digital accessibility, fire apparatus procurement, crossing guards, menstrual product access, homelessness, and public safety reforms. Chair McLaughlin presided, with Councilors Clingan and McLaughlin present; Councilor Strezo was absent. The meeting was called to order at 6:33 PM and adjourned at 8:58 PM after extensive discussion and votes on multiple resolutions.

Consent Calendar

  • Approved minutes of the Public Health and Public Safety Committee meeting of October 30, 2025 (ID #25-1709) and the Rodent Issues Special Committee meeting of December 1, 2025 (ID #25-1855) on a roll call vote of 2 in favor (Clingan, McLaughlin), 0 opposed, 1 absent (Strezo).

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Off-Leash Dogs (Item #6, ID 26-0914): Christopher Rosol submitted written comments regarding off-leash dogs. The item was kept in committee.
  • McGrath Boulevard (Item #12, ID 26-0493): The Gilman Square Neighborhood Council submitted comments concerning McGrath Boulevard. The item was kept in committee.

Discussion Items

Salvation Army Site (Item #4, ID 26-0972)

Councilor Sait introduced concerns about public health and safety at the Broadway Salvation Army site, including overnight gatherings, fights, drinking, public urination, and theft of donated goods. Deputy Chief James Donovan reported that the Police Department had conducted 75 directed patrols in June, primarily during evening and overnight hours, and noted that illegal dumping is a major issue. He recommended cameras, improved lighting, fencing, and signage. The Salvation Army has hired an employee to stay after closing and a morning truck removes dumped items. Amanda Nagim-Williams (IGA) noted coordination with Medford ISD, which issued a citation in early June. Councilor Clingan suggested two-way cameras and motion-activated lights. The resolution was marked work completed, with a request for follow-up from ISD.

Davis Square Drug Activity (Item #3, ID 26-1018)

Deputy Chief Donovan reported the Police Department has deployed significant resources to Davis Square since May 1, including cars 5, 6, and 7, plainclothes officers, and detective overtime. In the previous week, there were 29 positive contacts daily (directed patrols, park walks, business contacts). Multiple arrests were made for drug use and warrants. Specific attention was given to Hodgkins-Curtin Park, where 12 directed patrols occurred in June. Chair McLaughlin noted visible improvements. The resolution was marked work completed.

Cyclist Traffic Enforcement in Union Square (Item #5, ID 26-0944)

Lieutenant Holland reported that on May 28, a traffic officer conducted red-light enforcement at Washington and Webster Avenue, resulting in one motor vehicle fine and four bicycle stops (written warnings). The enforcement was part of a regular traffic shift and not grant-funded. The resolution was marked work completed.

Digital Accessibility and ADA Coordinator (Items #7, #8, #9 – IDs 26-0838, 26-0825, 26-0824)

Director of Communications Denise Taylor reported that the city’s website and apps have achieved 92% compliance with WCAG Level A and 94% compliance with Level AA, exceeding the 90% threshold. The city installed DocAccess to convert PDFs to accessible HTML. The web team (2.5 members) continues daily work. The ADA Coordinator position has been redefined as an ADA Coordinator/Investigator, housed in Human Resources, with an HR-focused investigation scope. Phone screenings are underway. The position was posted May 20. Interim duties are covered by the Chief Administrative Officer, engineering, RSJ, and the mayor’s public liaison. Both resolutions were marked work completed.

Fire Apparatus and Equipment (Item #11, ID 26-0647)

Assistant Fire Chief Sean Tierney provided an update on apparatus: Engine 5 was delivered June 23; a heavy rescue is expected December 2026/January 2027; Engine 1 in January 2027; Ladder 2 in June 2027; a new command vehicle is on order. All frontline apparatus are in service. Maintenance costs reached approximately $100,000 over the past several months, the highest to date. No measurable impact from traffic calming on response times was observed, and no firefighters lack necessary gear. Councilor Clingan suggested tracking maintenance data. The resolution was marked work completed.

Crossing Guards on McGrath Highway (Item #20, ID 26-0057)

Crossing Guard Supervisor Salvy Cicero reported that McGrath Highway is a state road with two state-employed crossing guards at Pearl Street. His assessment on April 14 found no children crossing at Broadway and McGrath; 55 people crossed (50 adults, 5 teens). The city had previously requested a state crossing guard but was denied due to the overpass and existing guards. Chair McLaughlin noted the overpass may be removed and plans to follow up with State Representative Connolly. Councilor Clingan supported pursuing a crossing guard. The resolution was marked work completed.

Menstrual Products and Period Poverty (Items #15, #18, #19 – IDs 26-0125, 26-0099, 26-0098)

Director of Health and Human Services Karin Carroll reported that menstrual products can cost up to $13 per month and are not covered by SNAP. The city launched a two-year pilot with Citron dispensers at six locations. Dispensers were installed in all three City Hall bathrooms about four months ago. Schools have multiple locations with dispensers or nurse-provided products. Libraries have their own vendors. Public health vending machines (funded by opioid funds) also provide products. The resolution calling for an end to period poverty and installation in city-owned bathrooms was marked work completed.

Homelessness Update (Item #17, ID 26-0106)

Director Carroll provided a monthly update. The January Point-in-Time count found 31 unsheltered and 148 sheltered individuals. The Somerville Homeless Coalition opened a new shelter with 10 additional beds in Davis Square. The city is responding to extreme heat with water distribution and cooling centers, though no overnight centers are currently in place. Unattended belongings are tagged and, after 72 hours, transferred to the coalition. Councilor Clingan requested more success and outcome data in future reports. The item was kept in committee for continued monthly updates.

Public Safety for All and Civilian Oversight (Items #13, #14 – IDs 26-0348, 26-0243)

Jon Hillman, Public Safety for All Project Manager, reviewed the initiative’s history (since September 2022), including task force recommendations. Current initiatives include a co-response pilot (launched June 2026 with eight hours/week), body-worn camera implementation (grant of $231,000 awarded, expiring August 31, 2026), development of a hub model for cross-departmental collaboration, and establishment of a Police Accountability Board (goal: start of calendar year 2027, with an ordinance to be adopted beforehand). Community engagement continues. Both resolutions were marked work completed.

Summer Street Bike Lane Safety (Item #21, ID 25-1770)

Director of Mobility Brad Rawson explained that the Summer Street redesign (2019-2021) was completed about a year ago. The raised bike lane uses a sloped curb due to narrow width. Vehicle speeds have decreased by approximately 40%, with no traffic displacement. One bicycle crash was reported. Chair McLaughlin personally noted difficulty turning at Benton Road. Director Rawson acknowledged constraints and advised using crosswalks for left turns. The resolution was marked work completed.

Other Items

  • Trash Barrel Latches (Item #10, ID 26-0708): Kept in committee.
  • Privacy Film for City Hall Bathroom (Item #16, ID 26-0108): Completed in February 2026. Marked work completed.

Key Outcomes

  • Approved two sets of committee minutes unanimously (2-0-1).
  • Marked the following resolutions as work completed: Items #3, #4, #5, #7, #8, #9, #11, #13, #14, #15, #16, #18, #19, #20, #21.
  • Kept the following items in committee: #6 (off-leash dogs), #10 (trash barrel latches), #12 (McGrath Boulevard), #17 (homelessness monthly updates).
  • The ADA Coordinator position is in the hiring process; the body-worn camera grant must be approved by August 31, 2026, or funds will be lost.
  • Councilors committed to follow up on crossing guards with state representatives and to request additional data from HHS on homelessness outcomes.

Meeting Transcript

All right, now declare this meeting of the public health and safety meeting in order. Please note pursuant to an act. We will record all this information and put it on the city website. Clerk, please call the role. All right. This Council Swiss. Councilor Klingon. Chair McLaughlin. Yeah. All right. With that, we have two members present. So we do have quorum and it is 6 33. All right. Please note that Council Strezzo is chairing her own committee meeting right now. She may uh re uh meet us later. Uh let me see if we see if Council Said is in the audience. And if she is, could we upgrade her to a panelist so that she can discuss this item with us? Do you see that, Madam Clerk? Yep, I just upgrade her. It looks like there are two of her. Um, but I upgraded both of them. One is enough. Um yes, thank you. Could you read the first item? Yes, and we want it. Do we want to take up the minutes first or the one that you mentioned? Okay. We'll take out the minutes first. All right. Um, item number one, ID number 25-1709, approval of the minutes of the public health and public safety committee meeting of October 30th, 2025. Seeing no discussion, those minutes are approved. And did you want to do the vote altogether at the end or do that now? Yeah, I'll lay it on the table for approval. Thank you. Okay, perfect. Um, so next one, uh, next minutes. Yes, we'll lay that on the table for approval as well. No discussion. Unless there's discussion, which I don't see any. Okay, so that's um just to read into the record. Um, item number two, ID number 25-1855. Approval of the minutes of the rodent issues special committee meeting of December 1st, 2025. Any discussion? RIP Rhodent Commission. Seeing none, those minutes are laid on the table for approval. And so this item right here, item number four is the one we want to take up next. Yes, please. Great. Item number four. Oh.

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