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City Planning Committee Meeting - October 28, 2025

Board of RepresentativesTuesday, October 28, 2025
BodyStamford, Connecticut
SessionBoard of Representatives
DateTuesday, October 28, 2025
StatusFILED
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0:00

I'd like to make a motion to open the meeting.

0:03

Second.

0:05

All in favor.

0:08

Aye.

0:10

Aye.

0:13

I believe we have a public hearing this evening.

0:15

Is that the first item on the agenda?

0:18

That is correct.

0:19

Okay.

0:20

So the reason why I wanted to move forward is because I want to be respectful of the members of the public that may be in attendance.

0:27

So I'd like to make a motion to open the public hearing.

0:32

Second.

0:34

Hey, point of order.

0:38

Point of order?

0:39

Yes, Emil.

0:40

Yeah.

0:41

I think we should obviously I'm not on the committee, but I think the committee members that are there should appoint an acting chair until one of the chairs joins.

0:50

Okay, I'll take uh nominations for acting chair.

0:54

I see Vanessa hands up.

0:56

Representative Williams.

1:00

I had another point of order, but that that can wait.

1:05

Okay.

1:06

Um I don't see any nominations.

1:08

I nominate uh Representative Lai since she started.

1:14

Point of information, please.

1:17

Yes.

1:19

Um has Angela gone through to Rob or Mavina.

1:26

Neither of them have responded to me yet.

1:29

Okay.

1:30

Okay.

1:30

All right.

1:31

So all right, let's move to this then.

1:34

I texted as well.

1:35

I'm hoping that with the public hearing, they they'll be on soon.

1:39

But in the meantime, uh if everybody's okay with it, I nominate Representative Lai if you'll have it.

1:45

Still move.

1:46

Second.

1:50

Oh, there was a point of order too.

1:51

Sorry, was that on uh the nominations?

1:55

Uh should the roll call precede the nominations?

1:59

Probably.

2:00

Probably, yeah.

2:01

Let's do a roll call, please.

2:04

Yep, let's do a roll call.

2:06

Angie, can you please call the roll?

2:08

Sure.

2:09

Uh Representative Campbell is excused.

2:12

Uh Ashley Lie.

2:15

Present.

2:17

Uh Maureen Pollack.

2:20

Present.

2:23

Andrea Waston.

2:25

Present.

2:27

Vanessa Williams.

2:29

Present.

2:32

You have a quorum.

2:34

Okay, thank you.

2:35

Um, so we had a nomination and a second chair or temporary chair.

2:41

Um in favor.

2:45

I okay.

2:48

So I will serve as temporary chair until uh one of the actual chairs arrived if they are able to do so this evening.

2:55

Um so I'd like to make a motion to open the public hearing.

2:59

So move.

3:01

Seconded by Rev Williams.

3:04

Thank you.

3:05

All in favor.

3:06

I okay.

3:09

The public hearing is open.

3:10

Are there any members of the public present tonight that would that wish to speak on this item?

3:20

There are no members present on.

3:25

Okay.

3:25

Did anyone sign up for submit comments?

3:28

No, we didn't have.

3:29

Well, someone said that they might come, but I don't see him on.

3:33

Um, and that was uh Mike Papa.

3:36

So I don't, but he's not on at all.

3:38

Oh, wait, hold on.

3:39

There's there's a one person.

3:42

Let me check and see.

3:43

Hold on.

4:07

There's a Marissa Rogo on.

4:10

I'm not sure if she wants to speak or if they're this just says calling, but that's the only.

4:20

If you're a member of the public present and you'd like to speak, please raise your hand.

4:35

Angie, uh, this is Representative Goldberg.

4:38

Does the public that's not a current presenter need to do something to let you know that they want to speak?

4:46

I can I can see them in that they raise their hands.

4:50

I can see uh I can just make them a presenter so that they can speak.

5:00

Everyone on here, I usually I can see on the actual teams call.

5:06

Is that what you mean?

5:07

Yes, ma'am.

5:08

I was just trying to make sure that they were the or maybe we should announce how they raise their hand if they're on the phone.

5:17

It's a star something.

5:19

I just don't remember what it is.

5:21

Uh is anybody recall?

5:24

I believe it's star six or oh star five is raising your hand like the five fingers.

5:30

I remember it.

5:38

I don't see any phone numbers in the attendee list.

5:45

No, there's there's no there's no one else on the call.

5:48

Yeah.

5:49

Okay.

5:50

So in that case, I'd like to make a motion to close the public hearing.

5:55

Or can you can I get a motion to close the public hearing?

6:01

We need a second.

6:06

Second.

6:08

All in favor.

6:11

Aye.

6:12

Aye.

6:14

Is there a motion to approve this item?

6:20

So moved.

6:23

To approve the hearing.

6:26

No, to approve the um actually if you could Angie, could you put the agenda up so we have the wording correct?

6:34

Sure, but we just oh Rob is on coming on now.

6:38

Okay.

6:38

We just we I'll stand down.

6:41

Oh no, but he's I didn't even make um but there's yeah, there's other members of the public on now.

6:49

So okay.

6:50

I'm not sure if you you could Rob or you can let them know to raise their hands if they want to speak on this item.

6:59

Okay.

7:00

Yeah, could we make a motion to reopen the public hearing?

7:03

Yes, yeah.

7:04

Let's I'll make a motion to yeah, some so we'll take Vanessa's as a first and Maureen as a second.

7:10

All in favor.

7:11

Aye.

7:12

Aye, aye.

7:13

All right.

7:14

Public hearings reopened.

7:15

And I will step down as Rob is joining.

7:19

Thank you for your service.

7:21

Good job.

7:22

Anytime.

7:30

Just a quick point of information.

7:32

It looks like um Chair Ricatta uh has now been enabled to speak.

7:39

Um he had not been.

7:41

He's not okay.

7:44

I I I apologize for the tartiness, and I was just able now to be switched over uh as an uh presenter um and an uh button thank everybody uh for waiting.

7:58

Um I heard that there was some action taken, which which I appreciate.

8:03

And uh was it formally open the meeting.

8:09

Yes, yes, and the meeting was formally open on the public hearing it was formally opened.

8:15

Uh I served as a temporary chair, but now that you're on the public hearing is open and you are chair.

8:22

Thank you.

8:22

Uh so do we have any members of the public who would like to speak at this time.

8:29

And if Angie, you can help me check for hands or yes.

8:32

Um there's before there were no members of the public.

8:36

There's two members as attendees right now, so they would have to raise their hands and I can make them presenters if they want to speak.

8:44

Very good.

8:44

So we'll wait to see if any hands go up.

8:46

If not, we will um look to close the public hearing and take and then take up the the rest of the item.

8:56

We'll give it a minute.

9:09

I do see uh a member of the public.

9:12

I think it's Dave Adams, and I recognize him if you want to give them the ability to speak and get and I give you the floor, Mr.

9:20

Adams.

9:21

Thank you for your participation.

9:26

Thank you, Chair Reta.

9:28

Uh I just want to uh acknowledge my uh sincere support for this ordinance increasing the linkage fees from 10 to 15 percent.

9:37

I think it's important that we uh take that money and put it into the Affordable Trust uh fund uh to fund projects.

9:46

Um I think it's an important piece of the puzzle.

9:53

Thank you.

9:55

Thank you, uh Mr.

10:00

Adams uh for for your your comments uh in tonight's public hearing.

10:03

I now see hands um from Sue.

10:07

I believe um if you can give her the floor.

10:22

So you have to unmute Thank you, Mr.

10:29

Adams, and I am I see Sue is now uh able uh has her hand up if we can give her the floor.

10:37

Thanks.

10:42

Yes, she has to unmute herself because she's a presenter right now.

10:50

Okay.

10:51

Anyone else uh in case someone else is ready and we can always go back to Sue.

10:57

I don't see it though.

11:01

Uh I see if you're on the phone, I believe it's star six.

11:06

I'm not I'm not 100% sure.

11:21

Hi.

11:22

Oh wait, hi, can you hear me?

11:24

Cool.

11:27

Thank you, Representative Goldberg.

11:29

Um I was just gonna ask if we could tell her how to unmute or if we could do that for her, but it sounds like she found the button.

11:38

Yeah, oh my god.

11:40

I yeah, I'm I'm trying to I'm calling in on my phone, so I'm trying to figure out how to use this teams on the phone.

11:48

But thank you.

11:49

Um can you hear me?

11:52

Yes, we can.

11:53

Oh good.

11:53

Yeah, listen, you know, I just want, you know, I mean, um I'm a great supporter of affordable housing.

12:00

And you know, if you look at the affordable housing trust fund definition in the charter, it says that it's supposed to be used for a number of things, you know, to help um people who um you know need to have repairs on their homes or whatever that people that provide affordable housing for others.

12:22

So I would like to see this fund not only be used to build new affordable housing, but to also assist those who have you know three or four family homes that do provide um deeply affordable housing for people.

12:40

So like I said, if you if you look at the um charter and what the fund should be used for, um it's quite enlightening and and not just to be used to build new housing, but I definitely support the increase from 10% to 15% um for the uh fee.

13:01

But um thank you all.

13:03

So just briefly what I wanted to pipe in.

13:06

Thank you.

13:08

Thank thank you, uh Ms.

13:10

Halfern.

13:10

Uh appreciate your comments.

13:12

Um I'll just say as an editorial to your to your comments and concerns in a sense, uh, as a sitting member on the affordable housing trust fund board.

13:21

Um we uh we advise by um the regulations in regarding to how the trust fund is expended for the expenditures of it.

13:31

Um I think we could close if we're done with the um public hearing.

13:41

I think um it should be closed before we start commenting.

13:48

Thank you, Representative Walson.

13:50

I I'm fine with that.

13:51

Um so I I will make my my comments uh after we see if there's anyone left that needs um to speak, and then we will we'll close.

14:02

Um I'll give it a second or two to see if we have anyone else from the public who would like to speak during the public hearing.

14:09

Then I'll make my comments and then we will open uh open up the item for approval a motion to approve um and discussion to the committee and extra 50 members.

14:20

Um I don't see anybody else.

14:22

So at this time it is 6 49 p.m.

14:25

Uh, we will call the public hearing to a close.

14:30

Getting back to my comments, the affordable housing trust fund.

14:34

Um the funds in it is available for all the things that Ms.

14:40

Halpin mentioned, aside from just building um new units.

14:45

It's it's able to be used um everything according to what it's stated in the um ordinance.

15:00

However, there um people who are looking to use the affordable housing trust funds for these other matters that we speak of, um, they need to apply um like anyone else, and they would need to find out what the method um of is to go about the process of applying for funds for for those specific uh purposes.

15:15

And as of now, um Ms.

15:16

Emily Gordon, who works for the city, um, would be the person to contact to inquire about how to apply for funds as a uh person who needs help to either stay, maintain um their um stay in affordable housing, if you will.

15:34

Um that's all I wanted to say, and um I'll now see if there's any motion to approve this item for final adoption.

15:53

So moved.

15:54

Thank you.

15:55

We have a second.

15:56

Second.

15:58

Okay.

16:00

Discussion.

16:04

And I just switched screens, so give me a second if there's any hands.

16:08

Um representative Pollock here.

16:11

I'm not able to raise my hand.

16:13

Oh, good.

16:13

Well, I wasn't able to see it anyway if you did because uh my screen, my screen switched over.

16:18

Go ahead, you have the floor, and I apologize to someone whose hand is up.

16:21

I will get to you uh as soon as I'm able to see my team screen.

16:26

Thank you.

16:26

Just a quick question.

16:28

I heard you say that for the public, they should reach out to Emily Gordon.

16:33

I have had quite a few people reach out to me asking these types of questions and not knowing how to find out what's available, including this ordinance.

16:41

Is there a website or a handle on the city's web page that we could direct people to?

16:48

That's easier to find.

16:50

Yes, and and and apologies if it if if I'm mistaken, but I believe I sent multiple times to all of the representatives of our city, the 40 of us, um, the links to the housing trust fund website, which is one of the pages on the City of Stanford's website, which also has the um previous monthly, which is not a monthly meeting, but all previous agendas, uh, and every meeting includes an update of funds available um and all the minutes and videos of all previous meetings.

17:25

I believe um, I don't have the date actually in my mind, but I believe the next there'll be one more meeting um on, I want to say in the middle of November, maybe the 14th.

17:37

But again, all this information is available at the city's website.

17:42

Um if you can Google search Stafford Affordable Housing Trust Fund, you should probably be the first or second results in in the query that will lead you right to the specific page.

17:52

And again, all the documents, the minutes, um, current agenda for the next meeting, videos, um, to give you more than enough information, uh, including uh copy of the ordinance as it is uh as it stands in our regulations and and any other information uh that I would think would be needed.

18:12

And if there's something that's not there, please reach out uh to Emily Gordon, and she may be able to take that suggestion and maybe make the page more user-friendly if that would be the correct time.

18:27

Thank you, Representative Powell.

18:28

Do you have any other comments?

18:30

I yield the floor.

18:31

Thank you.

18:32

Thank you.

18:33

Anyone from the committee?

18:35

I I I I want to recognize recognize uh Representative Goldberg, I just want to see if there's any other committee members who wanted to discuss this before we take it to a vote.

18:44

Um Representative Lye.

18:48

I just wanted to quickly know in the public hearing there was a comment about uh how the funds are used.

18:54

I just wanted to point out that we did give funds to Pacific House about two months ago that were related to renovation projects.

19:00

So we certainly are using the funds or the city's using the funds to preserve existing affordable housing stock.

19:07

I yield thank you, Representative Lai.

19:11

Um else from committee.

19:17

Okay, uh Representative Goldberg, do you still want to speak?

19:20

I I saw you put your hand down, but that may have been by accident.

19:26

Yeah, I'm on my phone and it's uh up a bit quirky.

19:29

Um I was just gonna ask, do we have a feel for what the other communities around us?

19:36

Uh what percent they direct?

19:38

Is it 10%, 15%, 20%?

19:41

I just I don't have a good feel for where 15 falls in um in the range.

19:51

If anybody knows, I don't know.

19:53

I I know Representative Lay, I think has some professional experience with this.

19:57

Uh maybe I'll ask the question to her if she has a feel for that.

20:03

So that's the question directly.

20:05

We'll direct the question uh to Representative Lai.

20:08

Um quickly, I'll just tell you I honestly couldn't couldn't answer that.

20:13

So we will direct that to ask uh representative Lai if she if she wants to comment or or wants to say that she doesn't have the answer.

20:21

Representative Lai, can you do you mind?

20:24

I I do not have the answer uh offhand.

20:29

Okay, so that is too unknowns for for you, uh Representative Goldberg.

20:38

Um other questions or comments.

20:43

Oh, I was just wondering if anybody else might know uh off the top of their head where we where would that where 15 would fall in the range of uh our our neighbors and other municipalities in Fairfield or Westchester County.

21:02

Yeah, okay.

21:03

Thank you, Representative.

21:04

Yeah, I think that's a fair question.

21:06

Um just just to see um you know where we stand.

21:10

Um I would want to think that if it's what that if it's above what the other two and this is me personally speaking, if it's above what the other communities are giving, I I'd be proud to then say that we are leading um amongst our up our co you know our neighboring miss municipalities we're leading in advancing more funds into affordable housing for our city.

21:32

Um however I think it's a good question, and regardless of how this um item does tonight on the floor in regards to either passing or failing the committee.

21:43

Uh I will try to remember to get that information or to research it so that if it becomes if it comes before the full board in our November meeting on Wednesday, we will have that for you.

21:59

Um for consideration for people to digest it and and and vote accordingly, if that's something they need as a guide to vote.

22:09

Representative Ly.

22:12

I just like to point out that this is not an additional fee that's being charged of applicants.

22:17

This is uh a percentage of the building fees that are already being charged that are being redirected to the Affordable Housing Trust Fund.

22:25

So the only entity that's affected by this is the city of Stanford in terms of the amount of building fees, building permit revenue it's bringing in.

22:36

Um and we have had conversations with the city operations department, and I to my knowledge, they've had no objections to this proposed increase.

22:49

Thank you, Representative Senator Lai uh for possibly clarifying what may have been perceived differently than myself of Representative Goldberg's question.

22:59

I I can tell you this that had there be five percent, fifteen percent, or zero percent, the remainder of funds would go into our general um operations budget to be used uh just just towards city expenses.

23:19

Um whereas the five, which then became 10 and and and possibly now will become 15% will be specifically carved out for the housing trust fund, and then in this case the remaining 85% would go back into the uh as revenue into the city's budget.

23:36

Um I I believe I'm I'm um stating that uh factually um and if I'm wrong, uh although my recollection tells me that this is how I presented it the last time he raised it.

23:48

Um I will I will make sure I start corrected.

23:53

So Chair uh Rapeta, I wasn't uh I I I apologize if I something the way I phrased the question left anyone with the impression that um I thought there was an increase in fees or that there was uh I mean I was just trying to figure out where we where we stood relative to what other municipalities were doing.

24:17

Um I mean, I I don't I I don't have a strong opinion either way.

24:22

I was just trying to figure out where we you know where we stand.

24:26

Um I don't know that it necessarily impacts um how I'll vote on this ultimately.

24:33

It was more of curiosity.

24:35

So I just wanted to make sure you knew that I I are not speaking for or against, I just am curious.

24:43

Thank you, Representative Goldberg.

24:44

And that's and that's how I took your question.

24:47

Um and I'm not I'm not I'm not uh gonna state that that's how Representative Ly took it, but maybe for clarity purposes in case that was um not the communication or the question you had.

25:00

I think she just wanted to cover the cover it, uh cover the decide that if that was the inquiry that it wasn't for any more increased fees on on the I guess taxpayers or whomever.

25:11

Um so I I thank you for your clarification, and I think we're all straight in understanding this now.

25:17

Um and please feel free if anyone else from the committee or or ex officio members who are here tonight from the board of reps, um please comment.

25:28

Uh please please ask questions.

25:31

Um and if I don't see any hands or any or hear any voices um that are using their mobile phones, um, we could um end discussion and take it to a vote.

25:44

So the only follow-up question I would ask uh chair is how much uh will this increase the fund by annually?

25:52

What what do we anticipate this adding to the fund?

25:57

So um that's another good question, and and here's the only way I can answer it.

26:02

Um I want to say in the most recent affordable housing trust fund meeting, Emily Gordon who who runs the meeting um with Ralph Fleshing, uh was able to give a report of the 2024/slash 2025 fiscal year uh linkage fees, um which represented 10% of the total fees collected, which is going to the affordable housing trust fund.

26:31

So without being able to calculate, or I couldn't, but maybe the land use bureau can on existing projects that um or or or I should I should I should clarify or correct myself, the building department um projecting what next year's permanent fees may bring.

26:55

Um it would obviously be 15% of that.

26:59

Um I don't think they could speculate on you know year over year what the city brings in permit fees because whatever whatever may go go down in larger development um contributions through permit fees um may go up in in small in the small the smaller uh type permit fees.

27:22

I think it's hard to gauge.

27:23

But to get it to get a sense, um one way is to look at at the Affordable Housing Trust Fund uh previous meetings.

27:31

The other way is to look at the last four or five years at the city's budget to it'll actually show you the the building uh department permitting what the annual revenue was and how much of that went in correlation to the percentage of what the ordinance had at that year, whether it was five or ten percent, um, can kind of give you sort of a guide.

27:57

Uh I can't I can't recall if if if it's the 10%, which is the which is the current percentage, got us close to a million dollars for this past fiscal year.

28:08

Um for some reason that's the number that's in my head, um, but I may be totally off.

28:12

Um so I I would just ask everyone that that's interested in that number, um, that's that's poses a kind of as a question from Representative Goldberg, it's is just to go back um and and another uh reminder for me that if I can uh as a sponsor of this um increase is to in addition to finding out what our our neighbors are doing as far as similar percentages, um also to find out what have these percentages turned out to be in whole dollars into the Stanford Affordable Housing Trust Fund over the last few years.

28:47

Is that is that fair?

28:48

Is that a fair response?

28:52

Uh yeah, yeah, I think so.

28:54

I mean, I I just it was more of a curiosity, you know.

28:58

I hope I hope it's a meaningful impact.

29:00

That's all I have.

29:01

That's all I was sort of trying to figure out.

29:05

Right.

29:05

I I guess my basic math skills was to tell me that four years ago, whatever it brought um in four years ago, if that amount stayed the same, that amount has doubled um because we went from five to ten percent.

29:20

And if next year, if the amount is very close, we could say that we've now tripled uh the impact.

29:27

And and I think that's and that it's still not enough.

29:31

Um I can talk forever about this topic because I have passion about it.

29:34

But safe to say that I think um one of the reasons why we've done this is is to increase the impact and and hopefully it it will be um an impact, especially for the smaller programs that one of the public members have mentioned that they hope that the funds could be utilized for that.

30:00

And the specificity of the linkage fees and why it's so important is that's the only fee or revenue we could take into the fund that could be used for anything other than building affordable housing.

30:07

So fee and loop funds, and I'll probably have said this a hundred times since I've been on representative.

30:18

Other than to create um new units or rehab current units.

30:28

So all the other ways that funds in the affordable housing trust button can help um the smaller projects um could only come from this linkage fee.

30:40

Which why I think it's increasing it makes it even more powerful um to find alternative solutions other than using the funds to help public and off fiber developers to create affordable housing.

30:55

You're using these funds to leverage with their with other state grants or their banks um to to build um well, we would hopefully at least I would say hopefully um get us more deeply affordable housing housing that that falls between the 25 to 50 percent AMI um for residents who need um who can't afford uh to get in or qualify to the current BMR program, uh which to me is one of this unintended fault of our VML VMR program.

31:31

Thank you, Calicida.

31:44

Okay, I don't know if Representative Goldberg is is okay with that, or are you trying to unmute?

31:49

Are you are you good?

31:50

You could just shake your head um if you hear me.

31:55

Yeah, yeah, sorry, I was switching from my phone to my desktop.

31:59

Yeah, thank you.

32:00

I appreciate I'm I appreciate you trying to uh help me uh the um understand the size of the impact.

32:08

I I yeah I'll I'll yield at this point.

32:11

Thank you so much.

32:12

Thank you.

32:13

I I I appreciate it.

32:14

Um seeing no others, um I would like to take this to a roll fall vote.

32:21

Um and if um Andy, if you could do a roll, we could uh take the vote for this item.

32:30

This is a uh let me just clarify uh what we're voting on for the public.

32:36

This is a vote for item number one HCD 031.088 uh ordinance.

32:43

We had the public hearing and for final adoption for amendment to the code of ordinances.

32:47

Chapter 146, Article 5, Section 146 through 67, creation of a commercial linkage affordable housing program, and we are looking to change the 10% to 15%.

33:00

Um if we can have the role Cabba.

33:11

Yes, yes, Palek.

33:24

Maureen Pallock.

33:31

We can come back to it.

33:32

She's probably having trouble updating.

33:34

Okay.

33:34

Um Kendrea Waston.

33:37

Yes.

33:39

And Vanessa Williams.

33:44

Yes.

33:46

Okay.

33:49

We'll give Maureen just a few seconds.

33:51

I I'm sure she wants to be on record if well, either way with her vote.

33:55

Um and I want to make sure that that we're able to allow her to cast and and to be recognized in the record.

34:04

Um maybe uh if someone could I'm just multi-testing if someone could maybe text her uh case she steps.

34:12

She just texted me that she's having trouble with getting uh connected.

34:17

She's having connection issues.

34:18

Right.

34:19

So for the sake for the sake of the uh of her being able to stamp her vote on this one way or the other, I I'd ask us also to be uh to be patient and see if we can find a way to get her in.

34:31

Although I could do it um unless we want to do it um on the full board, what we've done with with with presidents or clerks where we could maybe get her to call someone and we can hear hear her vote with her voice on somebody's phone.

34:45

I would I uh if anyone had no objection to that, I certainly don't.

35:04

I'm gonna try to set that up.

35:07

Thank you.

35:07

And and and I would do it, but I I'm not working off a PC, so I don't think it'd be possible to do it on a mobile phone that I'm using for the for the for the meeting since since I'm in between um in between um point of information.

35:22

Yes, uh Representative Williams.

35:23

Uh Representative Williams.

35:24

Just um Ashley, are you on a desktop so you can also use your cell phone?

35:30

I I think that's what she was gonna do.

35:32

Yeah, okay, great.

35:34

I'm on my cell.

35:35

I was gonna have her call my landline on my landline.

35:38

Oh, that was just great.

35:59

And once she jumps on um somebody's call um and we could recognize that she's on I'll just have Angie herself ask ask her how does she how does she vote?

36:11

Um once we declare have clarification, she's on the phone.

36:17

So I'll stand by, we all stand by Andrew, while while we're waiting, um are you aware, and I apologize again for for for not being on.

36:47

Are you aware if we have anyone uh to speak on item number two?

36:50

I I know originally um the administration offered some some written uh feedback uh in response to into the the meat of the question or the review item that's next, but but if they're not on um I would probably um look to not just take no action um and then it would be up to the next board of representatives um whether they wanted to review that.

37:16

Uh no, they're not I contacted the mayor's office today and no one was able to attend the meeting tonight.

37:24

Okay.

37:25

Okay.

37:26

Since since the the intention I believe to review that was to actually uh have a dialogue with the administration uh um since they're not gonna be here uh after after this vote is is closed, I I would probably look uh for us to to um I guess I don't know if it's technically accurate or in order to recommit it to steering, but whatever whatever the the prop the proper um motion would be prior to uh the ending of this 31st board's term, um I'll look to do and then we look to adjourn the meeting.

37:59

Is anyone uh looking uh that's looking to contact uh Representative Pollock has any luck.

38:06

Yeah, I'm trying.

38:07

Um I tried to call her, unfortunately.

38:10

She's probably trying to I tried to call her, I wasn't able to get back.

38:15

She wasn't she didn't pick up and went to voicemail, and now I'm I've texted her and um I haven't heard back yet.

38:24

But I did let her know that we're holding you're you're holding the vote open for her.

38:28

Hopefully she maybe she's rebooting her phone.

38:33

I wasn't able to get through either.

38:35

Um and she didn't respond to my last text.

38:39

So I I think at this point we've done our due diligence.

38:43

Okay.

38:44

I'll accept that.

38:46

Uh um and um seeing that's being uh us being patient, I would now like to close the vote and now ask uh Angie uh what the tally was.

39:02

Please.

39:03

It's 400.

39:06

Thank you.

39:07

And that passed quorum and passes, and it is approved by committee, and we'll go on consent.

39:17

Thank you.

39:17

Um recommit item number two to steering.

39:27

So moved by rep Williams.

39:29

Thank you, Representative.

39:31

Point of order or information.

39:34

Since we don't have do we is there going to be another steering meeting?

39:37

Because the next board when the next board be taking that up.

39:41

Right, and again, I hence my hence my my inability to kind of think that the best way to craft it uh from an operation standpoint uh within Robert's rules of order to appropriately um not take this item up.

40:00

If Andy, through your experience, could think of another way to dispose of this item properly.

40:05

Seeing that's the end of the term, and like Representative Laias has stated, there won't be uh a steering committee for the the last steering committee has happened for this term of this board of rec.

40:21

Yes, that is correct.

40:23

But like you said, other committees have been recommitting items, I guess in hopes that the new board will take it up, but that's not necessarily a guarantee.

40:34

We don't automatically put it on.

40:36

I think it still has to be um submitted by someone from the new board.

40:41

So thank you.

40:43

Then I have another idea.

40:44

What I'll do is um I will we will take up item two.

40:47

I will ask if there's any discussion.

40:49

Um if I don't see any, um we will then look to um just say report was made and and move on um and and then look to adjourn.

41:04

So do I have a motion to take up item number two?

41:12

I mean, I'll make a motion to move it to steering or if that's what other committees have done.

41:18

We'll do that.

41:19

All right, so we have a motion on the floor of the committee floor to recommit it to steering.

41:27

Do we have a second?

41:33

Rob, are you recommending it to steering to steering?

41:37

Or are you gonna take it up?

41:39

So you can do it for me.

41:43

Um since Representative Lyons represent to do the the other motion instead.

41:52

Um we will Liley follow the other committees and it let it be as it may.

41:58

I I hear you.

41:59

I I think that it would make probably make sense that if this is is to get to a steering and have to be brought up from scratch um by whomever uh sits uh as a board member in the next board.

42:13

Um but since Representative Lyon did bring that up, uh if we and I think when that's uh uh Representative Williams seconded, um we could take a vote uh to recommit it to steering.

42:24

Um and if you want to um we could do this by boys vote.

42:27

All in all in favor of recommitting item number two to steering, please say aye.

42:34

Aye, I no opposition, any abstentions.

42:45

Okay, so that is passed to be recommitted to steering.

42:50

Do we now have a motion to adjourn tonight's meeting?

42:56

So moved.

42:58

We have a second.

43:00

So moved.

43:02

And I will have a discussion.

43:06

Um I think the permission to to discuss my sincere ratitude to everyone on this committee the past four years.

43:15

Um to both to members who have been on in the earlier portion who are no longer on this committee, to newer members who just got to the committee.

43:23

Thank you.

43:24

Um I think we accomplished uh uh a great deal in these four years, and I really appreciate everyone.

43:31

And if I am not back, um I thank you all, and if I am, I hope that I could be uh fortunate to be selected to be at least a member, if not also a full chair.

43:45

Um and and continue uh mission uh to help uh the city in regards to housing into regards social services and regards to our community development.

43:57

And I yield anyone else would like to to uh talk during a discussion period right now before we uh vote to adjourn.

44:05

I I I would uh gratefully listen.

44:11

I'd just like to say thank you for being our our co-chair for these four years.

44:15

I've been there the whole time, and I appreciate your leadership.

44:19

Thank you very much.

44:21

Thank you, everybody.

44:24

Same from ref Williams, thank you.

44:27

Thank you.

44:28

But I haven't been here for all four years.

44:32

I I also I would be remiss if I didn't say also on being I I would believe that my my comments uh I would try to take the liberty to say that in the most part what I've said uh just recently um is also would be on behalf of my co-chair uh representative more whose birthday is today.

44:50

Um and uh couldn't she couldn't make it so happy birthday to Representative Moore um today and and hopefully in five hours I'll be celebrating mine.

45:00

all four years I I also I would be remiss if I didn't say also on be I I would believe that my my comments uh I would try to take the liberty to say that in the most part what I've said uh just recently um is also would be on behalf of my co-chair uh representative more whose birthday is today um and uh couldn't she couldn't make it so happy birthday to Representative Moore um today and hopefully in five hours I'll be celebrating mine um any uh other discussion if not um we could take the you know I normally don't do this but we could uh since it's the last meeting we could uh vote to uh adjourn all in favor to adjourn tonight's meeting please say aye any opposition aye okay we got multiple ayes to to to um to adjourn no opposed any abstention seeing any hearing or hearing none um that passes and the meeting is now closed as of 720 p.m.

45:49

Again I apologize for my tardiness and I thank for everyone for being patient and uh and uh thank you everyone have a good election ready thank you for everything Rob you're welcome and have a great night thank you good night thanks Angie of course thanks to you no problem good night

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Summary of Proceedings

City Planning Committee Meeting - October 28, 2025

The City Planning Committee convened for its final meeting of the current term to conduct a public hearing and vote on an ordinance amendment to increase commercial linkage fees for affordable housing. Following technical difficulties and the late arrival of the Chair, Representative Lai served as the temporary chair. The committee approved the fee increase and recommitted the next agenda item to the Steering Committee before adjourning.

Consent Calendar

  • No items listed on the consent calendar; the meeting proceeded directly to the public hearing.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Dave Adams: Expressed sincere support for the ordinance increasing linkage fees from 10% to 15%, emphasizing the importance of directing these funds to the Affordable Housing Trust Fund to support projects.
  • Ms. Halfern: Expressed general support for the increase from 10% to 15%. She urged the committee to ensure the Affordable Housing Trust Fund is also utilized to assist owners of three-to-four family homes for repairs, rather than solely funding new construction, citing the charter's definition of the fund.

Discussion Items

  • Role of the Acting Chair: Representative Lai served as temporary chair after Representative Rob Ricatta joined late. A motion was made to open the public hearing, delayed by technical issues ensuring public participation, and subsequently reopened and closed once all speakers were heard.
  • Clarification on Fund Usage: Representative Walton offered an editorial comment clarifying that funds are already available for purposes beyond new construction (e.g., repairs) but require a formal application process handled by City staff (Emily Gordon).
  • Comparison to Neighboring Entities: Representative Goldberg inquired if 15% is higher than surrounding communities (Fairfield or Westchester County). Representative Lai noted she did not have the data on hand; Representative Goldberg stated they were curious rather than opposed, and Representative Lai promised to research neighboring percentages for the full board in November.
  • Nature of the Fee: Representative Lai clarified that the increase is a percentage of existing building fees redirected to the fund, not an additional fee charged to applicants. She noted the City Operations Department has no objections. Representative Watson explained that while 5% previously went to the fund, now 15% would be carved out, with the remainder going to the general budget.
  • Financial Impact: The Sponsor acknowledged that exact annual projections vary based on permit types but noted past revenue figures (referencing ~1 million dollars at 10%). Representative Goldberg mused that the increase from 5% to 10% had doubled the impact, and this change should triple it, though it remains insufficient. The Sponsor detailed that linkage fees are unique in their ability to fund non-construction uses (e.g., leveraging state grants) to serve residents at 25-50% AMI, which other funding streams cannot always reach.
  • Item 2 (Administrative Feedback): Representative Williams noted the Mayor's office and administration were unable to attend. As no dialogue with administration could occur, it was moved and seconded to recommit the item to the Steering Committee for the next board.

Key Outcomes

  • Vote on Ordinance Amendment (HCD 031.088): The motion to amend Chapter 146, Article 5, Section 146-67 to change the linkage fee from 10% to 15% for the Affordable Housing Trust Fund passed with a 4-0 vote (Representative Pollock was absent due to technical issues, but the motion stood as a majority). The item is approved by the committee.
  • Recommitment: Item 2 was successfully recommitted to the Steering Committee by a voice vote (all in favor, no opposition or abstentions) for the incoming board to consider.
  • Adjournment: The meeting was adjourned at 7:20 PM. Representative Watson offered a farewell tribute to the committee's four-year tenure and wished a Happy Birthday to Representative Moore (co-chair).

Meeting Transcript

I'd like to make a motion to open the meeting. Second. All in favor. Aye. Aye. I believe we have a public hearing this evening. Is that the first item on the agenda? That is correct. Okay. So the reason why I wanted to move forward is because I want to be respectful of the members of the public that may be in attendance. So I'd like to make a motion to open the public hearing. Second. Hey, point of order. Point of order? Yes, Emil. Yeah. I think we should obviously I'm not on the committee, but I think the committee members that are there should appoint an acting chair until one of the chairs joins. Okay, I'll take uh nominations for acting chair. I see Vanessa hands up. Representative Williams. I had another point of order, but that that can wait. Okay. Um I don't see any nominations. I nominate uh Representative Lai since she started. Point of information, please. Yes. Um has Angela gone through to Rob or Mavina. Neither of them have responded to me yet. Okay. Okay. All right. So all right, let's move to this then. I texted as well. I'm hoping that with the public hearing, they they'll be on soon. But in the meantime, uh if everybody's okay with it, I nominate Representative Lai if you'll have it. Still move. Second. Oh, there was a point of order too. Sorry, was that on uh the nominations? Uh should the roll call precede the nominations? Probably. Probably, yeah. Let's do a roll call, please. Yep, let's do a roll call. Angie, can you please call the roll? Sure. Uh Representative Campbell is excused. Uh Ashley Lie. Present. Uh Maureen Pollack.

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