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Saint Paul Budget Committee Reviews 2027 Budgets for City Attorney and Neighborhood Safety on October 28, 2026

Budget Committee — Wednesday, October 28, 2026
BodySt Paul, Minnesota
SessionBudget Committee
DateWednesday, October 28, 2026
StatusNEW · FILED
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Speaker numbers apply only to this recording.

Speaker 1

9:09

Vice Chair Yang.

9:11

Councilmember Vui.

Speaker 2

9:12

Here.

Speaker 1

9:12

Councilmember Coleman.

Speaker 2

9:14

Here.

Speaker 1

9:14

Councilmember Kim.

9:16

Councilmember Jost.

Speaker 2

9:18

Here.

Speaker 1

9:18

Council President Naker.

Speaker 2

9:20

Here.

Speaker 1

9:20

Chair Johnson.

9:21

Here.

9:22

Five present two absent being Vice Chair Yang, who is excused, and Councilmember Kim, who is expected shortly.

Unassigned speaker

9:31

Yes,

Speaker 3

9:31

Council Rickem and I passed each other heading into the building.

9:34

So for those that were able to go

Unassigned speaker

9:36

to

Speaker 3

9:36

the fire department, uh station seven over on the east side, we're heading back from that.

9:41

So apologies for being a couple minutes behind.

9:48

So I'll be handing it over to our city attorney.

Unassigned speaker

10:00

Thank you so much for your time this morning for the opportunity to present the proposed city attorney office budget for 2027.

Speaker 2

10:06

The way that we'll go through the presentation for CAO is the template that the city council has provided.

10:12

So thank you for doing that.

10:14

We will spend most of the time, well, we'll spend some time on 2026.

10:18

We'll spend most of the time on the proposed budget itself.

Unassigned speaker

10:21

Um,

Speaker 2

10:21

keeping in mind that there was some additional information that was requested of CAO, and so we'll make sure to address what the council has uh brought up previously.

Unassigned speaker

10:31

Um

Speaker 2

10:31

for the executive summary did want to focus in on the priorities for 2027.

10:36

Uh we'll talk more about each one of these in detail later.

10:41

But we did want to make sure that we focused in three areas.

10:44

One was to strengthen the support for city departments across the entire city in all the work that the city does.

10:51

Focus in on the city's data practices work, which is something that has been much needed, and then also to invest in technology so that we have greater efficiency and then address any potential liabil liabilities that there may be in the future.

11:06

I did want to just spend a moment to ground us in the mission for the city attorney's office.

11:11

Um we seek justice through law and equity and build prosperity by protecting the safety and interests in the entire St.

11:18

Paul community, and you'll see that throughout.

11:31

But you'll see quite a bit of overlap in the proposed budget request in front of you.

11:36

And so, as I briefly mentioned, we are looking for ongoing funding as it relates to technology.

11:43

Um, this is largely for two platforms, one for our prosecutors and one for our litigators.

11:49

Uh, and so the dollar amount will not much in the overall budget for the city is significant to help us do our work.

Unassigned speaker

11:58

Uh

Speaker 2

11:58

I will spend more time on the request for a civil attorney.

12:02

This is where there have been a number of programs, either through city council or departments that have been created, but as those creations had happened, we didn't get accompanying FTEs within CAO.

12:14

We'll spend quite a bit of time talking about data practices just by a glimpse.

12:18

There have been significant volume in terms of data practices requests of the city over the

Speaker 4

12:25

last almost 10 years.

Speaker 2

12:27

And while there isn't a request this year for increased support for our criminal division, I did want to highlight information that the city council has seen in the past.

12:36

The prosecutor caseload is significantly high.

12:39

Since 2018, we have always been over what has been recommended by the American Bar Association of 400 cases per municipal prosecutor.

12:51

And in 2025, we actually exceeded our pre-pandemic level of caseload.

12:57

Our victim witness staff, which we are grateful to have it helps our prosecutors meet our statutory obligations in terms of crime witnesses.

13:06

And so we want to just point out that this is significant amount of contact that we want to ensure that we have with victims, but you can see the number of service contacts and the number of victims is very high per FTE that we have for victim witness.

13:23

Wanted to spend some time here.

13:25

Some of the information was asked for us to focus in on, so I will do that at some points in the slide.

13:30

As we looked back at 2026, um, I am mindful the first time that I was in front of the city council was unfortunately the day that Renee Good was killed.

13:39

And so Operation Metro Surge was then in full force.

13:42

The city attorney's office did have to pivot at that point in time and make sure that we spent dedicated time to address what was happening in our city.

13:50

And so that response didn't come with additional funding, but came with a fair amount of resources from CAO.

13:56

The other thing that was unanticipated was also the work that we needed to do, and it did start in the end of 2025 to make sure that we protected federal grants that the city had been awarded.

14:07

And so we put a fair amount of time and resources into affirmative litigation to protect over 394 million dollars that the city had in federal funding.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Budget█████████████████████████████████████████████48%
Public Safety██████████████████████23%
Technology and Innovation█████████████14%
Immigration Policy███████7%
Personnel Matters██████6%
Public Works█1%
Procedural█1%
Summary of Proceedings

Saint Paul Budget Committee Reviews 2027 Budgets for City Attorney and Neighborhood Safety on October 28, 2026

The Saint Paul Budget Committee, chaired by Councilmember Cheniqua Johnson, met on October 28, 2026, to review the 2027 budget proposals for the City Attorney's Office (CAO) and the Office of Neighborhood Safety (ONS). Discussions centered on staffing levels, the sustainability of grant-funded positions, the increasing burden of data practices compliance, and the need for clearer metrics to evaluate the impact of community safety investments.

Discussion Items

City Attorney's Office (CAO): City Attorney Irene Gow presented the CAO's 2027 budget, prioritizing technology, data practices, and a new civil attorney.

  • Data Practices: CAO requested two new Data Practices Specialists to address a historic surge in requests. The city is on track to receive over 24,000 total requests in 2026, up from 1,569 general city requests in 2025. Council President Noecker questioned the long-term strategy of adding staff versus adopting technological solutions. CAO argued legal review requirements necessitate the additional capacity regardless of technology improvements.
  • Immigrant Legal Defense: A $300,000 carry-forward from 2026 was requested for the Immigrant Legal Defense and Naturalization Support program. CAO explained the funds were unspent due to prioritizing work related to Operation Metro Surge. Councilmember Kim voiced strong support for the carry-forward, citing continued impacts of immigration enforcement in Saint Paul.
  • Separation Ordinance: CAO estimated that implementing the new Separation Ordinance would require approximately 800 hours of staff time for annual training and reporting, supporting the request for additional staffing support.
  • Operations: CAO noted a paralegal position was cut, and a senior attorney position was under-filled to an associate level to meet reduction targets. Remaining ARPA funds were proposed for a one-time victim witness position.

Office of Neighborhood Safety (ONS): ONS Director Toy Vic Savan presented the 2027 budget, highlighting the challenge of maintaining current staffing levels as temporary grants expire.

  • Funding Cliffs: The DOJ grant supporting the Familiar Faces program ends in May 2027. ONS is requesting to roll over $366,000 in remaining ARPA funds to sustain the team. A 0.5 FTE is also proposed for transfer to general funding. Council President Noecker expressed concern about the large number of positions (6.5 FTEs) that will need new funding or general fund support in 2028.
  • Performance Metrics: Councilmembers Johnson, Bowie, and Kim emphasized the need for quantified data on caseloads and program impact (e.g., Project Peace life coaches) to better justify funding and advocate for the office, especially as other community safety programs (CARES, Co-Responders) are being discontinued. Director Savan stated the evaluation showed their work is 'saving lives'.
  • Downtown Cameras: Funds originally allocated for downtown cameras were re-obligated to support data management and dashboarding for Project Peace, as ONS lacked the staffing to implement the camera program.
  • General Fund Shifts: ONS utilized unspent grant funds to relieve general fund pressure in prior years. These expenses are shifting back to the general fund in 2027, including a $160,000 community grants program.

Key Outcomes

  • CAO Data Practices: CAO will follow up on correlations between policing incidents and data practice request volumes.
  • ONS Performance Data: ONS was directed by Chair Johnson and Councilmember Bowie to provide quantified workload data (caseloads, service interactions) for Project Peace and Familiar Faces staff to improve budget justifications and public narratives.
  • General Fund Impact: Council President Noecker flagged the $160,000 community grants line item returning to the general fund and requested confirmation from ONS. The committee noted the significant pressure on ONS as other community-first safety responses are discontinued.
  • No Formal Votes: The meeting was a discussion and did not include formal votes on the budget.

Meeting Transcript

Vice Chair Yang. Councilmember Vui. Here. Councilmember Coleman. Here. Councilmember Kim. Councilmember Jost. Here. Council President Naker. Here. Chair Johnson. Here. Five present two absent being Vice Chair Yang, who is excused, and Councilmember Kim, who is expected shortly. Yes, Council Rickem and I passed each other heading into the building. So for those that were able to go to the fire department, uh station seven over on the east side, we're heading back from that. So apologies for being a couple minutes behind. So I'll be handing it over to our city attorney. Thank you so much for your time this morning for the opportunity to present the proposed city attorney office budget for 2027. The way that we'll go through the presentation for CAO is the template that the city council has provided. So thank you for doing that. We will spend most of the time, well, we'll spend some time on 2026. We'll spend most of the time on the proposed budget itself. Um, keeping in mind that there was some additional information that was requested of CAO, and so we'll make sure to address what the council has uh brought up previously. Um for the executive summary did want to focus in on the priorities for 2027. Uh we'll talk more about each one of these in detail later. But we did want to make sure that we focused in three areas. One was to strengthen the support for city departments across the entire city in all the work that the city does. Focus in on the city's data practices work, which is something that has been much needed, and then also to invest in technology so that we have greater efficiency and then address any potential liabil liabilities that there may be in the future. I did want to just spend a moment to ground us in the mission for the city attorney's office. Um we seek justice through law and equity and build prosperity by protecting the safety and interests in the entire St. Paul community, and you'll see that throughout. But you'll see quite a bit of overlap in the proposed budget request in front of you. And so, as I briefly mentioned, we are looking for ongoing funding as it relates to technology. Um, this is largely for two platforms, one for our prosecutors and one for our litigators. Uh, and so the dollar amount will not much in the overall budget for the city is significant to help us do our work. Uh I will spend more time on the request for a civil attorney. This is where there have been a number of programs, either through city council or departments that have been created, but as those creations had happened, we didn't get accompanying FTEs within CAO. We'll spend quite a bit of time talking about data practices just by a glimpse. There have been significant volume in terms of data practices requests of the city over the last almost 10 years. And while there isn't a request this year for increased support for our criminal division, I did want to highlight information that the city council has seen in the past. The prosecutor caseload is significantly high. Since 2018, we have always been over what has been recommended by the American Bar Association of 400 cases per municipal prosecutor. And in 2025, we actually exceeded our pre-pandemic level of caseload.

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