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St. Paul Planning Commission Meeting – May 26, 2023

Planning CommissionFriday, May 26, 2023
BodySt Paul, Minnesota
SessionPlanning Commission
DateFriday, May 26, 2023
StatusFILED
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0:06

Yeah, so we are going to do the agenda of how to order and do the budget proposal uh uh engagement exercise maybe first to see if someone trickles in in the next few minutes.

0:18

So the first item of the agenda is approval of the minutes from April 28th at May 12th.

0:22

Is there a motion?

0:24

So move moved by Commissioner Ritzburg.

0:26

Is there a second?

0:29

Second by Commissioner Saeed.

0:30

All also in favor is there any discussion?

0:33

All those in favor.

0:35

Okay.

0:35

Any of all five sign?

0:37

So that motion is approved to approve the minutes of April 28th.

0:42

Well, we got closer.

0:46

Okay, we got four.

0:47

Great.

0:47

So what was no okay?

0:50

So I don't have any announcements.

0:52

I'll turn it over to Director Predator.

0:53

That's some information about Tyspe.

0:55

Okay, good morning, everybody.

0:57

Uh hope everybody's well.

1:00

Um just a few announcements, a couple announcements.

1:02

Um, just wanted to point out that uh we've been busy um hiring in the planning division.

1:08

Um doesn't happen all the time.

1:10

Um we recently um had uh offers extended accepted for two city planner positions.

1:17

Um both individuals will be joining us in June and they'll uh come to the meeting and get to know them.

1:23

Um the two positions are uh backfilling for Michael Wade's vacancy who recently left to head to Texas and uh a promotion of Emma Brown to uh senior planner.

1:34

So two um great uh uh individuals will be joining us, um, and you'll get to know them soon.

1:40

Another um piece of news is uh we are hiring a research analyst to physician.

1:46

This is a new position, and um, so we're going through applications now.

1:50

Um this is to support the research and mapping team.

1:53

Um some of you know Bob Spaulding.

1:55

He's worked with the city a long time.

1:57

It's a team, but it's at this point really a team of one or one and a half if you count my involvement with it.

2:03

Um and uh Michael Wade, who previously was with us, did a little bit of support for that team.

2:08

This would be a new full-time position uh support um uh research and mapping, especially important as we begin to embark on kind of a database uh improvement project that Bob will be very involved with.

2:20

Um so excited about that, and we'll have some news about that too soon.

2:26

And then lastly, um some of you may have seen um uh on social media and LinkedIn.

2:32

We are uh promoting uh two uh new planning supervisor positions.

2:37

These are uh one is sort of a converted position, one is a completely new position.

2:43

Um so uh the two positions are uh current planning supervisor.

2:49

Um this would be focused more on zoning administration and environmental review.

2:53

Um so thinking about that that part of our our team.

2:57

Um some of you may know Alan Torstenson is going to be retiring soon, so it's sort of a conversion of his uh his position um and focused a little bit more on kind of that side of the of the uh of the team's work.

3:11

Um the idea of uh splitting up into two um teams uh enables us to kind of focus and specialize a little bit more and not sort of get distracted by everything that comes in the door.

3:23

Um so that's a current planning supervisor, the other one is a long-range planning supervisor, and this would be things like um neighborhood plans, the comprehensive plan, zoning studies, sort of policy changes, uh master planning, that that part of our work.

3:39

And so um really I'm sharing that just because if you know any seasoned planning professionals that are uh out there, uh this is a great opportunity.

3:48

Um they would have the uh pleasure or displeasure of working with me pretty closely.

3:52

Um, but also we have a really great team.

3:55

Um, and so um it's I think a really attractive uh opportunity.

3:59

Um, and we also um are uh encouraging internal candidates as well.

4:04

So the goal is really to build a great of candidates as as any and any general uh sort of opportunity is but um please feel free if you see that to um share that and share that out with your uh networks.

4:18

Um the only other thing I was gonna mention is this is probably not news, but the um commission saw that the um city council approved the summit avenue regional trail plan on Wednesday.

4:27

Um and so now that proceeds forward.

4:30

Um maybe it goes to the Met Council next for our consideration.

4:34

So um I think that's all I have.

4:37

Oh, and one more thing.

4:38

Uh today on the agenda, you'll notice at the end is uh budget activity.

4:42

Um and we're joined by um the mayor's office, John Grevner, um, who will be uh hosting kind of the the the uh exercise.

4:51

Um it would involve uh your your devices so if you have a phone, laptop, that sort of thing, tablet.

4:57

Um there'll be a piece there and there'll be some discussion.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Land Use Regulation█████████████████████████████████████████████67%
Public Engagement█████████████19%
Procedural███4%
Community Engagement███4%
Personnel Matters2%
Transportation Safety2%
Environmental Protection2%
Summary of Proceedings

St. Paul Planning Commission Meeting – May 26, 2023

The St. Paul Planning Commission met on May 26, 2023, at 2:30 PM UTC. The meeting included approval of previous minutes, director announcements, zoning committee reports, a major discussion on the Ford Site Highland Bridge Master Plan amendments, a parking landscaping zoning study, and a transportation committee update. Several votes were taken, including a recommendation to deny extended hours for a pizzeria and a split recommendation on the Ford Site master plan amendments.

Consent Calendar

  • Approval of Minutes: The minutes from April 28 and May 12, 2023, were approved unanimously. Motion by Commissioner Ritzburg, seconded by Commissioner Saeed.

Discussion Items

Director's Announcements

  • Director Predator announced:
    • Two new city planner positions filled (backfilling for Michael Wade and promotion of Emma Brown), starting in June.
    • Hiring a research analyst for the research and mapping team, a new full-time position to support database improvement.
    • Creation of two new planning supervisor positions: one for current planning (zoning administration, environmental review) and one for long-range planning (neighborhood plans, comprehensive plan, zoning studies).
    • The City Council approved the Summit Avenue Regional Trail Plan on May 24, 2023; it will next go to the Metropolitan Council.
    • A budget activity exercise led by John Grevner from the Mayor's office would take place later in the meeting, involving devices and breakout groups.

Zoning Committee – 629 Aldine (Pizzeria Hours Extension)

  • Item: Application to extend non-conforming use business hours for a carry-out/delivery pizzeria at 629 Aldine from current 8 AM–12 AM to 8 AM–6 AM (closed two hours). The zoning committee voted 4–1 to recommend approval of the staff recommendation (denial).
  • Discussion: Commissioner Acha, the dissenting vote, argued the extension fits the neighborhood character, citing nearby late-night uses (bars, Taco Bell) and 30 letters of support. Commissioner Rowe opposed the extension, citing noise, traffic, proximity to homes, and impact on residential character. Commissioner Riley noted that the pizza ovens can run after 10 PM (fryer must be off) and that the applicant had not proposed a more moderate hour (e.g., 2 AM). Commissioner Martinson expressed concern about setting a precedent for other businesses wanting similar hours. The motion to approve staff recommendation (denial) passed 9–1 (one abstention).
  • Outcome: The commission recommended denial of the hours extension.

Zoning Committee – 1566 Rice (Auto Repair and Sales)

  • Item: Conditional use permit for auto repair and outdoor auto sales at 1566 Rice Street. The zoning committee voted to approve with modified conditions allowing flexibility.
  • Discussion: Minor clarification that the permit is for a new owner relocating from another city; the use is existing. The motion to approve passed unanimously.

Ford Site Highland Bridge Master Plan Amendments

  • Presentation: Spencer staff presented six proposed amendments to the Ford Site master plan, primarily related to the civic and institutional land use category:
    1. Exempt civic/institutional uses from minimum FAR requirements.
    2. Add cross-reference to zoning code for maximum parking calculation.
    3. Exempt the project from the 20 surface parking space maximum (the most controversial).
    4. Exempt civic/institutional uses from maximum setback requirements.
    5. Provide flexibility for the shared transportation corridor.
    6. Cleanup items for park land improvement.
  • Discussion: Commissioners expressed concerns about the permanence of the zoning changes, the surface parking lot (proposed ~330 spaces, up to ~375 allowed), and equitable public access to the ball fields. Commissioner Martinson noted that denying the amendments could lead to the site being marketed for sale. Commissioner Riley moved to approve amendments 1, 2, 4, 5, and 6 (all except 3). That motion passed (voice vote: majority in favor). A separate motion to approve amendment 3 failed (2 in favor, remainder opposed). Commissioner Riley then moved to recommend denial of amendment 3, citing conflict with the master plan's vision for environmental sustainability and neighborhood character. That motion passed (all in favor except Commissioners Starling and Saeed).
  • Outcome: The commission recommends approval of amendments 1, 2, 4, 5, and 6, and denial of amendment 3 (surface parking exemption).

Parking Landscaping and Zoning Study

  • Presentation: Spencer presented proposed zoning code text amendments to landscaping requirements for surface parking lots, including lowering the threshold for internal pedestrian walkways from 425 spaces to 250 spaces, and adding mandatory safety and design standards. The committee recommended approval, with a request for further study on solar energy standards. Staff indicated that future zoning study would be more appropriate.
  • Discussion: Commissioner Holst moved to approve the zoning code amendments as presented. The motion passed unanimously.

Transportation Committee

  • Commissioner Brisbane reported that the next meeting (scheduled for Memorial Day) was canceled. The committee had a productive discussion about the St. Paul Bike Plan, noting that staff is presenting to all district councils.

Key Outcomes

  • Approved: Minutes of April 28 and May 12, 2023.
  • Approved: Conditional use permit for 1566 Rice Street.
  • Recommended Denial: Extension of operating hours for 629 Aldine (pizzeria).
  • Recommended Approval: Ford Site Master Plan amendments 1, 2, 4, 5, and 6.
  • Recommended Denial: Ford Site Master Plan amendment 3 (surface parking exemption).
  • Approved: Parking landscaping zoning code amendments.
  • Next Steps: The Ford Site master plan amendments and parking study will go to the City Council for three readings starting June 21, 2023, with a public hearing on June 28, 2023, and adoption anticipated July 12, 2023.

Meeting Transcript

Yeah, so we are going to do the agenda of how to order and do the budget proposal uh uh engagement exercise maybe first to see if someone trickles in in the next few minutes. So the first item of the agenda is approval of the minutes from April 28th at May 12th. Is there a motion? So move moved by Commissioner Ritzburg. Is there a second? Second by Commissioner Saeed. All also in favor is there any discussion? All those in favor. Okay. Any of all five sign? So that motion is approved to approve the minutes of April 28th. Well, we got closer. Okay, we got four. Great. So what was no okay? So I don't have any announcements. I'll turn it over to Director Predator. That's some information about Tyspe. Okay, good morning, everybody. Uh hope everybody's well. Um just a few announcements, a couple announcements. Um, just wanted to point out that uh we've been busy um hiring in the planning division. Um doesn't happen all the time. Um we recently um had uh offers extended accepted for two city planner positions. Um both individuals will be joining us in June and they'll uh come to the meeting and get to know them. Um the two positions are uh backfilling for Michael Wade's vacancy who recently left to head to Texas and uh a promotion of Emma Brown to uh senior planner. So two um great uh uh individuals will be joining us, um, and you'll get to know them soon. Another um piece of news is uh we are hiring a research analyst to physician. This is a new position, and um, so we're going through applications now. Um this is to support the research and mapping team. Um some of you know Bob Spaulding. He's worked with the city a long time. It's a team, but it's at this point really a team of one or one and a half if you count my involvement with it. Um and uh Michael Wade, who previously was with us, did a little bit of support for that team. This would be a new full-time position uh support um uh research and mapping, especially important as we begin to embark on kind of a database uh improvement project that Bob will be very involved with. Um so excited about that, and we'll have some news about that too soon. And then lastly, um some of you may have seen um uh on social media and LinkedIn. We are uh promoting uh two uh new planning supervisor positions. These are uh one is sort of a converted position, one is a completely new position. Um so uh the two positions are uh current planning supervisor. Um this would be focused more on zoning administration and environmental review. Um so thinking about that that part of our our team. Um some of you may know Alan Torstenson is going to be retiring soon, so it's sort of a conversion of his uh his position um and focused a little bit more on kind of that side of the of the uh of the team's work. Um the idea of uh splitting up into two um teams uh enables us to kind of focus and specialize a little bit more and not sort of get distracted by everything that comes in the door. Um so that's a current planning supervisor, the other one is a long-range planning supervisor, and this would be things like um neighborhood plans, the comprehensive plan, zoning studies, sort of policy changes, uh master planning, that that part of our work. And so um really I'm sharing that just because if you know any seasoned planning professionals that are uh out there, uh this is a great opportunity. Um they would have the uh pleasure or displeasure of working with me pretty closely. Um, but also we have a really great team. Um, and so um it's I think a really attractive uh opportunity. Um, and we also um are uh encouraging internal candidates as well.

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