Welcome on this sunny Wednesday.

All right.

I have item number nine, and I'm gonna call that ready with a question mark.

Councillor Caldwell.

Thank you, madam president.

Lessons to ask today.

I have 10 to 13.

Commissioner Burr, how are you today?

Running in.

Good.

How are y'all doing?

Say you should be a commissioner parks.

Got my exercise in.

So number 10 is I'm asking to accept a donation from the Everson of a half pike structure.

It is a temporary installation.

Um that's it's something that you know within the next six months will probably not be there anymore.

It's just temporary.

But what is it temporary for?

Commissioner.

It's a it's a half pike.

It's a piece of I sent pictures to everyone.

It's for skateboarding.

So the goal is to lay it out at Kirk Park or any park and let kids explore on the half pike.

Any other questions?

Item number 11.

11 is an agreement with elite gaming for services relating for instructional e-gaming program at both Wilson and Southwest.

So we're ready, set, go to the uh everything is up, the TV is uh you will be invited to the ribbon cut-in soon.

Awesome.

Thank you.

Item um 12.

12 is to amend ordinance 96.

It's a waiver of residency.

Um four lifeguards.

We currently have Southwest Southwest Pool and Um Cleary Valley's pool.

They're open.

We're struggling to get Huntington open.

We need staff.

Um we are signed off a waiver for this.

It's normally for the summer.

I just want to make sure I covered myself and asked for it during the the school year as well.

I was gonna say you started early, but okay.

Yeah, the overall goal is we're working on a plan to get how do we get more city youth and parents to start getting in the pools and be confident enough to want to become lifeguards.

Yeah, absolutely.

So and I see your quads team there.

All right, I think item 13.

Oh, that's um 13.

Um appropriate funds to the Syracuse Parks Conservancy every year.

They get or for the past two years, 25,000.

And so it's to pay their um I can't even think of it.

They're they're 25,000 for their support of the parks.

Any other questions, you guys?

All right, Commissioner Burr, we're all set.

Thank you, Madam President.

Thank you.

Councilor Majok.

Thank you, Madam President.

I have item 14 to 32.

Item 14 is we should it will be held because we will have um a public hearing on Monday at 5:30, and then a committee meeting at 12 o'clock on the 16th.

Chief.

Um then the next item of fire.

Anybody from that on the first fire.

Good afternoon.

District Chief Patrick Foodie, Syracuse Fire.

We got number 15 an agreement with emergency training consultants for firefirst civil service test prep instruction course.

Uh total not to exceed 6,000.

Do we know from last year used how much how much we had used and how many students took advantage of it?

We have that data for you.

Yeah, okay.

There was a good turnout with that.

Absolutely.

Okay.

Share with the rest of the council.

We'll do it.

Chief, maybe if you could also break down the percentage of uh uh recruits that uh how I mean what were they fail?

Like is it physical conditioning or is it like academically or what?

Initially what we want to see is that city residents score really well because we canvass the top scores.

Right.

Once that academic score gets listed, then we we canvass the top scores, then the physical starts after that.

So most of the people that fail the final exam is are because of physical conditioning or no, we don't have too many failures, honestly.

We don't have too many failures and they can once they get to the academy itself.

They uh everybody gets working.

So this aids them to get to the academy.

This aids them to take the entrance exam given by the county.

Okay, so the civil service exam.

Civil service exam, correct.

Okay, now I understand.

Also, while you set on send us those data, would you also see out of the folks that took the test?

Um how many of them went through this training and how many eventually ended up getting hired?

Yes.

Through this process that took the process to hear.

I will get that for you.

That would be excellent.

Thank you.

Okay.

Yeah.

Any other questions?

Thank you.

Yep, thank you.

Uh Deputy Commissioner.

Uh Mike.

Sixteen.

Good afternoon, Counselors.

Michael Layman, Deputy Commissioner for the Assessment Department.

Uh we have item 16 requesting uh to hire the uh selected uh furniture fixtures and equipment vendor for the relocation to 1153 of police and fire.

Um the committee after an RFP was issued um chose Syracuse Office Environments.

Are we requesting uh to hire them at total cost not to exceed 879,000?

Um bonding was already approved for this.

This was out of the million dollar we just approved a couple of weeks ago, right?

That's correct.

Okay.

Okay.

This is a city business.

I mean, they're located on Uri Boulevard, correct?

Yes, okay.

All right.

Any other questions?

Thank you.

Thank you.

Good afternoon, counselors.

Uh Richard First Deputy Chief of Police.

Uh item 17.

Uh this is something I come to you with every year.

This hopefully will be the last year.

Uh, this is an agreement with new era technology.

Uh what they do is they service our phone system at the PSB.

You've heard this story before.

Uh, nobody else in the world will service us anymore.

They don't even make pieces and parts for it.

Um we don't use them an awful lot, but uh if we do need them, they're the only ones that can do it.

When we move into the new building, we will have a new phone system, and this will no longer be necessary, and an amount not to exceed $15,000.

Any questions?

Okay.

18 and 19, uh 18 is a bond authorizing the issuance and sale of bonds uh of the city of Circuit to defray the cost for a departmental command post uh not to exceed 750,000 dollars.

Uh 19 is a police department command post, also um a capital from our capital improvement plan to replace that.

So our command post is old, it's got squeaky floors if the uh the uh electronics and the IT stops constantly breaking, it's it's old and it needs to be replaced.

What's the age on it, Chief?

I'll find out for you, but it's it's definitely not uh it's not it's it costs a lot to maintain it and it's it's old and ricky, but I will get you that.

That's that big contraption that you guys have, the mobile contraption.

I'm sorry, it's the big mobile unit, right?

Yes, yes, ma'am.

That's a big mobile unit that we use not only for you know public displays and certain events, but we use it when there's a a lot for when we have SWAT call-outs and emergencies, uh access our command posts, the place where officers and the commanders to sit and and strategize and to run a scene.

So let me ask you this question because you know we're always asking about refurbishing and removing and selling.

So what are we gonna do with this command post once you're done with it?

Are we are we gonna auction it?

Are we gonna sell it?

I I don't know the answer.

I'll f I'll figure that out for you as well.

Okay, I think it should be donated to Madam Swatts.

Let's see.

How old is it?

And what what are we gonna do with it?

Yeah.

Okay.

Um item 2021 go together.

Uh it's authorizing the issuance and sale of bonds, uh, City Circuit used to defray the cost for our radio replacement for half a million dollars 21 is police department radio replacement plan as part of the our capital improvement plan to upgrade and replace the portable radios.

Last year we did the mobile radios in the cars.

This year is to do the uh portables.

So the golden end of life as well.

How often do we replace the radios upgrading?

But I've had mine for over five years.

I'll find out how when was the last time we replaced them?

Okay.

Time flies when you're getting old, I bet it's been longer than that.

Now now, Chief, I I I know this these cameras can at time act as a as deterrent, you know, and you know, for people that see them.

You know, you regulate certain level of behavior, right?

But in terms of actual crime that it has solved, do we have any of that information anywhere where we have actually used a camera that has actually addressed a crime?

I don't know if anybody's keeping track of each and every incident, but I can tell you that they are used daily to solve crimes.

Everything from homicide to larcenies to criminal mischiefs to people breaking into cars, all of it, all of it.

They are used all the time.

Um we're having a problem with a certain establishment right now, and we can see the comings and goings.

Um I'm checking it myself personally on, you know, on Mondays and Fridays.

It's it's they're very well utilized.

Okay.

See, I I would like to specifically see information that say, you know what, we address this crime because a camera was there.

You see what I'm saying?

Point to it.

I I know in terms of you know, being able to follow this and that, and you know, but specifically, have we really solved a crime because of a camera?

Oh, yeah, for sure.

Okay.

Untold number of crimes.

Okay.

And so especially the major ones, the homicides.

That's first thing they do is go through all the cameras.

Chief, it would be safe to say that the camera placement, the the cameras are placed strategically based upon the crime stats, right?

And also that uh some certain community organizations or residents also got together to have and uh requested those cameras to be.

It's based on crime stats.

Most of the cameras that we've gotten early on were based on grants that were provided by the state and a lot of neighborhood groups uh reached out to their state representatives and requested cameras in certain areas, the spot we would put them, maybe, maybe not, but the we were just administering what the neighborhood groups had worked out where they're state representatives.

They do consult with us and we do put that information out.

Uh, what we're asking for now is money to replace that aging infrastructure that that's getting old and they're just not as good as as they were.

Yeah, and that and at some point too, Chief, we had talked about before we were to bond for it.

There was a conversation early on when the cameras start to come about seeing if there are grants out there for replacement.

And the answer back then was the the state and other external entities only allow for the installment, not for the maintenance of it.

Is that still the case?

So it depends on the grant.

Um counselor Williams or Congressman Williams when he was in was able to get us a rather significant grant that could be used.

Um not counselor, it was used those two.

He was able to get us a significant grant, and we didn't get doged on that like we did with the command post.

And uh, we do have money for replacement and uh some new cameras from that as well.

Okay, okay.

So that has changed.

Okay.

Any other there isn't a neighborhood meeting I go to where you don't get two or three people wanting cameras on your street.

Yeah.

I mean it's just like answering you know it that's a deterrent too.

The biggest problem is the amount of herbs hoops we have to jump through and the time as we're working with Jai, just to get permission from national grid and and from Verizon to be able to use the role polls, and then if they say we can use them, we have to make sure that it's not gonna mess with them.

It's usually six months to get this process done, and it's very frustrating to us.

And I guess this this brings up the question where you know, when I was a district counselor and the hog and everyone that is a district council can relate to this, right?

When the national grid come in, you know, the the spectrum, just to even go through that line to be able to to to place to replace a poll, it takes forever.

Have we ever looked at have we have Corey?

Have we ever revisited that at all to see where we are with the process?

Because that affect cameras installation as well.

We've met with people from there, we've we've we've cleaned the process up as much as we can.

Uh they have a team that will help you, but it's still at the end of the day, it's taking us months to get through these things.

And it shouldn't be like that.

It shouldn't be.

I don't I don't think so.

Uh we don't have any more priority over as a municipality than anybody else.

I guess that's their decision.

But you know, they're not saying, oh, that's the police department, that's public safety, you're to the front of the line, that doesn't happen.

So what's what's the problem?

It's easier dealing with the Soviet Union than it is a Jewish grid.

Well, to finish your question about the the new cameras, a lot of the state grants, they will be directed towards new cameras and not completely.

Good.

Good.

Chief.

I was getting to that too.

Yep.

And so Kentology's been really good about trying to identify places we can put our own polls up.

Okay.

And when they we do put our own poles up, um, then we don't have we cut that process off.

So that's one thing we always look for.

Another thing we've been looking for is private property that will allow us to use their buildings or whatever, and we've been able to save time, cut that process down by that.

So we're constantly it's frustrating to us too, right?

Like we want to get everything done yesterday, and it just these six month delays are very frustrating to us.

Chief, uh, I'm already getting a couple calls about the cameras.

I'm hearing the terms evasion of privacy.

They're gonna know about our phones, or they're gonna know about our license plates, and it's going to a third party.

I have one person keeps calling me on that.

Can you elaborate on this?

About an invasion of private privacy on this, that's going to a third party's gonna know people's.

Yeah, we're not getting anybody's telephone call information off of these cameras.

I can assure you of that.

Um there's not even sound on them.

We don't have sound on them.

Um the data is is uh protected with axon air.

Um there's never been any issues with that.

Um it's our data, right?

So they're not gonna take another person's private part.

Absolutely not.

And that goes to what the meeting Monday is gonna be about, right?

I I suspect that more than the uh axon uh drone is a first responder, it's the overall uh what are we doing about data protection is a feeling I'm getting from the council.

Okay.

Yeah, yeah.

Thank you.

Chief, let me ask you a question.

I'm going off the beaten path really quickly since we're talking about cameras.

And I just want to publicly state this because we're I'm getting emails.

I don't know about anybody else, but I'm getting emails about the cameras that SU installed, and I just want the public to know that's on private SU property and is not the city that's responsible for that.

That's that's correct.

That's SU, that's not us.

I don't even know where they are, and I don't even know if they're up right now.

I don't either, but I know I'm getting a bunch of emails about I I have gotten a couple of requests where I just don't have that information.

Okay.

But just for you know, argument's sake to let the public know, since this is a public meeting, that is not the city of Syracuse, Syracuse University.

So thank thank you, Ken, for thinking about creating our own polls, you know.

Thank you.

I think that would help uh all of us.

Um so that took care of 201 to 23, Chief, right?

And this is 24?

24 and 25 go together, bond ordinance authorizing the issuance and sale of bonds for a 2526 uh police department replaced vehicle uh replacement plan.

That's for three million two hundred forty-one thousand.

And then uh well, I got a question for that one.

Um the vehicles that uh are being purchased, because I was just in Albany recently speaking with some of the uh city officials over there, they're having problems with some of their vehicles because they're not buying the actual police package vehicle um as far as engine purposes and things like that because you guys push the cars pretty hard.

And they're their cars are breaking down and they're purchasing vehicles left and right.

That's not really the case with us.

We try to get the actual police package vehicle so that we're not really oh we do, right?

They're on state contract, but the problem is it's a highly competitive.

So, like we wanted 10 of this per we just met on this yesterday, right?

Like we're planning this stuff out because we're we have a vehicle shortage, especially with our marked patrol fleet.

Another problem we have is that the getting upgraded, uh they're sitting in certain uh vendors for months on end.

We're waiting for them to you know get the radios and lights on and stuff put on them.

Um but we buy them off a state contract, and then we bid anywhere around the state that will meet that price.

Um, but if you need 10, sometimes you can only get three, and that's what happened to us yesterday.

So, are you gonna send us over the mileage on the vehicles you're getting rid of and the in the and the year?

I don't know if we're gonna necessarily get any rid of any we uh we haven't identified them yet, right?

Like we when they come in, we'll if we have a vehicle that's not maintainable anymore, like we have people that are waiting on vehicles.

So if we move a bump one from first line response, it's apt to get bumped down to a lower level unit, like say for schools, for example.

I know we have an officer that doesn't have one that works in the schools, so that older vehicle will be bumped down to her.

Um we eventually will auction off a number of vehicles.

I don't know when that will happen, but that is done, and the money doesn't come back to the police department, it goes to the city general funds.

Um, but I can find out when the next auction is gonna be, but I don't know if we've identified what we're getting.

Yeah, I just wanted the mileage in the year of the vehicle that's being replaced.

I can tell you that a lot of the vehicles we have are well over five years old, well over 150,000 miles.

That much we were discussing yesterday.

Chief could you give us a list?

Number of vehicles, how many you have, how many you're gonna replace and all that.

Yeah, I'll get you a list of what we have and how many miles on them, what year they are.

That's what I that's what I would like to.

And then I think I'm sorry.

Go ahead.

I think some of that is an attachment age that uh that you provide.

I haven't seen the attachment.

I'm looking at it is the ones that they're going to get the 22 on the mark.

I can get you a whole spreadsheet with the vehicles, the years, and how many miles they have on them.

And then just because the vehicle is older with more miles doesn't necessarily mean that's the one we got it rid of.

That may not require as much maintenance as a newer one, right?

So our garage kind of oversees what we're gonna get rid of and when.

So you don't have any vehicles as not being driven.

I'm sorry.

You don't have any vehicles as not being driven.

We are short of vehicles.

And chief we do have accidents, and when the accidents occur, then we're out of vehicle.

Well, I get that.

And we have to I get that, but I'm gonna tell you, I'm just gonna be straightforward about it.

I'm hearing that there's a vehicle that was previously driven by a chief, and that people are refusing to drive the vehicle.

You talk oh, I know what you're talking about.

I don't know that that's the case.

That is I've seen it being driven quite a bit.

It's a okay, I'll just that blueberry colored vehicle, correct?

I was just curious because that's what I'm getting.

You're talking about the blueberry colored vehicle?

Yeah, yeah.

Well, it's a right now.

I understand it is sitting there.

If you bring your car in for maintenance and you need a vehicle to work that day, then that's one of the vehicles that we're issuing out to people, or people are issued vehicles for travel that that's one of the vehicles that are gonna be.

Right?

Yep.

Okay.

So uh chief, I want to bring out uh what happened on Monday afternoon.

We had a fire on Park Street.

You had I think two or three police vehicles, right?

One had to be on Pond Street to block off traffic, and one had to be by Greece Ved Street to block off traffic.

There was three, and at the same time, short time after that, we got a bus, we got an accident between a bus and a vehicle, and now we're utilizing two more, two more police vehicles at the same time.

So now, as you were saying, well, now we're short staffed.

So are you looking to number one?

We need new vehicles, and again, it comes into we need more police officers.

So, you know, there I can see your point.

I can see your point there.

But when we're utilizing an accents like this, we're six or seven, and you need a patrol, what do what do we do?

If it I mean it depends.

If it's a traffic post and we can put like a CSO or somebody else out there, we'll do that.

Um, but if we like the fire scenes, I mean clearly we're not fighting the fire.

That's my friends at the fire department.

Right.

But somebody's got to keep people from running over their hoses, and that's our job, right?

Right.

And then and then unfortunately you have another accident, too.

Right up the street, yeah.

Yeah.

That's a total situation.

I was just looking at that accident.

He's talking about on my camera yesterday.

Oh, yeah.

Yep.

I want to see if I can figure out whose fault it was.

But uh the light wasn't captured in it, so I couldn't tell.

It was a school bus versus a car.

Yeah, okay.

Uh chief.

This might be directed more either towards um Commissioner Canzero or our budget department, but the three and a quarter million dollars for the vehicle replacement.

I'm not, you know, gonna push back, not gonna question that, but um when we look at your capital plan, police department had the roughly seven million dollar capital plan, and this amounts to roughly half of that.

Um we had the unusual step or unusual occurrence this year of being provided an amended capital improvement plan in which we shifted from having five point three million dollars of cash capital down to nine hundred and thirty-five million dollars of cash capital that represents the delta of about four point five million dollars of cash capital.

Um we got told that it was happening.

We never got told by anyone why that shift was occurring and why we're borrowing rather than spending cash capital on police vehicles that will likely be paying for beyond their lifespan.

Yeah, I'm not sure if I understand that question.

Yeah, like in his air commissioner of finance.

Um, so the useful life for police vehicles will be three years.

Um, so that would be uh, you know, any costs we're not gonna be bonding in advance for the 3.2 million dollars, really, whatever we spent.

Um and then the bond for that specific project uh would be for three years.

Um that answer your question or I guess okay.

Then why did we shift from you know $5.3 million dollars of cash capital and police down to the 935 if we do a three-year bond?

If we do a three-year bond, but you know, that's a pretty sizable deviation from what was proposed in January.

Yep.

Yeah.

So I think there was uh Corey Dunham, Chief Administrative Officer.

I think there was an assumption made that uh in the past that we had to use cash capital for vehicles.

Um working with bond council, we confirmed that that's not the case.

And so if we are able to bond for vehicles, we would prefer to to do that and use cash capital for the things that we can only use cash capital for.

So that's why you know, taking a look at the CIP and having a new um a fresh look at it with the finance team.

Things that we can shift to bonding, you know, we would prefer to do that and leave the things that are only cash capital for that purpose.

Does that does that answer the question, counselor?

Okay.

And maybe in the future, you can advise the council.

Absolutely.

The new strategy.

Yes, yes.

And we're um as counselors might know, uh, the capital planning process has begun, and so we fully intend to engage with the council um more than we have in the past, where generally speaking, the capital plan has been delivered to the council, but we'd like to engage with the council to you know walk through the planning process so that um so that you're aware of what's in the capital plan, and it's not just on you to review on your own time.

Yeah, you know, I just the way it feels to me is we're borrowing for things that we were planning to pay cash for, and to me that I don't know doesn't bode well for our you know financial health.

I would I mean I defer to Commissioner Canazaro, but I think if we have the bonding capacity that we would prefer to use that than cash if if we don't need to use cash, but I understand your point, counselor.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Other questions all right, 26 and 27, Chief.

Yes, sir.

Um 26 bond ordinance authorizing the issues and sale of bonds from the city circuit to defray the cost.

2526, police department information and talk technology server upgrade plan uh not to exceed 100,000 dollars.

27 is also related to that.

Um for switches, firewalls and related equipment for the servers.

Uh just uh standard upgrades we have to do to stay ahead of the game.

Chief, quick question for you all of this upgrade to this equipment, is that going into the new building?

Yes, okay.

All right.

There's gonna be some things down here because we're not gonna shut everything down.

Move over all at once, but all the new stuff is going into the new to the new building.

We're not gonna buy new stuff and leave it over there.

We're meeting weekly, sometimes twice a week about the technology stuff, how to do that best, because clearly we can't shut down and move all at once.

We have to kind of ask that question because you're gonna still have to operate from the old building into the new building and up in the middle.

Right.

Because I mean some businesses can shut down for a week, we can't.

So I imagine Commissioner OJ will give us an update at some point about the PSP.

I mean, just where we are as far as what we're gonna do with the old building.

And he will what we'd like that to be now.

No, no, I think maybe it will do the except we're not gonna interfere with Chapman Gie's dying.

Okay, item 2829 are to tie together to our handgun program.

Uh 28 is a bond ordinance authorizing the issue and sell of bonds.

Same question I have for you.

So, what do we do with those little guns?

Do we destroy them?

Those get sold back to no, they get sold back to the company, and then you get a better price on the hang on that you're buying.

Cool.

That one I did know.

Um where was it?

Okay.

I think it's all gone.

30 appropriate funds from the our cash capital account um an amount not to exceed 150,000 for our patrol rifles replacement.

Same thing with those are just getting old and need to be upgraded.

Plus, after the Jensen incident, we did get more patrol rifles out on the street because that was one of the things we found were a little short uh in the patrol unit.

So we've rectified that, but we need to keep that stock up.

All right.

31 appropriate funds for our cash capital.

This is something that's been on there a couple years anyways.

Um, but there's a lot of coordination to getting this done.

But this would be for a new records management system.

Um currently we use uh chairs, which is uh chairs two, which was created by the county.

Um we find feel that uh we need a more robust records management system today's day and age, it's just a lot better products out there.

Um the other departments in the in the county are coming along.

Uh they they're in agreement.

Most importantly, we finally got county IT to agree that this is a really nice looking package and it would be a benefit to us to get.

Um is it imminent?

No, but we would like the money because uh it's it's we would like to get that project is moving, and when the project does uh come about, we'd like to have the money for it.

There's a lot of coordination with the other towns and villages.

So this is a data management system for an entire department, not just because I know the department that are somewhat secluded, you know, within the police, right?

But this is no, I don't know where it's gonna be for police reports uh cases.

Uh there's all kinds that the limits, it's it's not limitless, it doesn't have because we were looking at it, it doesn't have a human resources function, but it does do all of our police reports.

It would do um all of our crime data, it takes care of all the bases we need to check to report into the state and federal government.

Um right now we're using this system, that system, this system for this, it combines most of them in one.

For example, we're using a system called Beast for our property management, and then uh we're using the chairs two for the actual police reports, and then we're using uh the state one uh is slipping my mind, but that's all incorporated into one system.

So the beauty of it, and it's a long complicated.

I've sat through some of these presentations.

There's other companies, it's not just niche, there's other companies where if you type in uh the person's name on the police report, you don't have to type it in again on the supplemental report.

You don't have to type it it pre-populates a lot of the fields for you.

Uh they have there's so much technology, it's so vastly superior to what we have.

A lot of times you can dictate your report instead of writing it.

There's just it's it's so robust that that's why agencies are going to it.

Currently, the state police are in this particular system.

Uh niche in particular does mostly countries, countries and states, they do large agencies.

Um we're on the cusp of being too small for them, but if we can get some of the towns and villages to come along with us, they will offer us the same package.

But it makes sense to be on the same system as the state, to be honest with you.

Is the county connected?

County is with us.

We meet and and uh there's a couple other systems out there, you know.

Axon's got one, they've got one, but we're all in agreement.

I can speak for the sheriffs uh because I've had these conversations with them, but they're in agreement.

We need a new records management system.

Okay.

Uh the one something that a company that I don't want to speak ill of another department, but they do a great job, but there's more robust technology out there that's available to us.

So so you are not just you are buying this on your own, but eventually you're hoping that the other people are the that's kind of where we're at with it, yes.

Okay, the you are hoping the other people tag on to to share the cost of that what it won't share the cost.

However, well, I can't say that.

I'll I'll tell you something offline.

Um I can't say it here because I probably get in trouble with somebody else.

Um that would be just for us.

It would make sense to have everybody in the county on the same system.

Okay, okay.

Yeah, with this, and you know how we uh especially how I feel about you know putting all of this together because the data management is not the way we we look at data, the data and way we manage it.

Yeah, it's not the same way as they look at it and manage it, especially when it comes to sharing and all of that.

So we already like we already currently share all of our data, police data, um police reports and stuff with everybody else in the county, right?

That's that chairs two system is it's a countywide system, which makes it if you're up somebody's committing a murder in DeWitt isn't necessarily the person that lives in the way, you need it.

The boundaries are are just imaginary.

We drew them up, but they don't mean anything to the bad guys.

You know, all right.

Um item 32.

Once again, just to reiterate, it's not imminent.

It's nothing we're looking to do tomorrow.

Um item 32.

Uh, this is an annual fee that we use to pay for our aims annual support.

Um this uh the period of next year, June 30th to July 1st to June 30th next year.

This is the system we use for writing parking tickets.

Parking tickets?

Yeah, yes, sir.

All right, Chief.

Thank you.

I'll get to those answers, Madam President.

Thank you.

Thank you, Chief.

That would be all, madam.

Thank you.

Councilor Peniago.

Good afternoon, everybody.

Thank you, Madam President.

I have items 33 to 35.

Item 33.

Syracuse City School District to amend the budget for the July 1st to June 25 to June of 26.

Relative to the Syracuse to give to increase, excuse me, the General Fund operating budget.

Do you want to are there any questions about these?

No, okay.

So then we all said thank you very much.

We approve.

Have a nice day.

Thank you.

And this has been approved by the school board board.

So it's fine.

Yes.

So there's an extra six million dollars to this nights.

And then item number 34.

We charge you have to do that.

Good afternoon, Council Rick Al Siever, Director of Human Resources.

For item 34, this is our ACA reporting.

I've come to you a bunch of times for Alera Group, used to be CPIHR, has done all of our ACA reporting, which is affordable care act.

They run all of our reports.

They do our calculations for employees that are variable hour throughout the summer throughout, well, all year, but uh mostly throughout the summer.

They handle all that for us.

We're switching from Alara group.

Um we estimate on the light side uh $10,000 savings annually.

Um and if we fingers crossed things stay the way they are, and we don't have to print the forms that you get with your W-2.

Um, we'll save about $12,000.

And we won't get hacked.

Correct.

Well, I I can't promise that, but yes, I mean that's it's a crazy world that I don't know anything about computers.

So I can't promise anything on that.

Yeah, well, I know what a Lara got a letter saying hope you've been compromised.

Yeah, ideally, I mean we've worked with B Pass a lot.

They've had a lot, they have a lot of our information.

We use them for almost everything else benefits related, and we haven't had any issues there.

So what measures do we?

I mean, on to her point, what measures do we have that we you know can protect the information?

So they uh similar to police, they use on their end a whole slew of different algorithms to protect that information.

Um they have protected encrypted emails, things like that.

Everything that comes through from B Pass is encrypted.

So they they take their own measures and we follow their measures when we interact with them.

Thank you.

Absolutely.

Anybody else?

Any other questions?

And then uh 35 were on hold uh for the next meeting.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Councilor Gathers.

Thank you, Madam President.

36 to 48.

Uh 36.

We can um just briefly brush up on this one.

We're gonna have uh been having communication with Genoptic to schedule a meeting um for everybody to talk about the uh issue that we have with the data sharing.

Um, if you would like to speak on that behalf as well.

You say you was gonna schedule a meeting.

Yes.

Yes, we are.

Uh yep, so it's a separate issue.

So um, you know, this item uh that's been on a few agendas is about as a reminder, uh the construction and insurance requirements around uh genoptic placing equipment within our right of way.

Um this item uh we're we're waiting for this item to move forward and be approved by the council in order to install uh the speed camera in front of the steam school.

Um the reason why that one is a particular outlier is because of the age of the underground conduit um and making sure that we have these additional insurances in place before those contractors uh begin to work on that underground conduit.

Um and so uh counselor Gathers, as you said, uh we uh will work with Genoptic to bring them in in the next week or so and have a special committee meeting about any data sharing uh regarding that program.

Um and happy to answer any other questions as well.

Any questions from the council containing item 36?

Um my question is about data sharing.

Yes, can you go over there again, please?

Yeah, so just at a high level, um, as we've talked about a few times, uh the data uh the company uh uses the highest standards both nationally and internationally on data data privacy and data security.

Um they've reiterated uh both in our contract and to us, and we're happy to do so again.

Um, that we are the owners of the the data that's captured by the speed and red light camera program and the bus stop arm programs.

Um if any uh law enforcement agency or any third party were to request data, they would say we are not allowed to do so.

You have to go to the city.

Um, and then we are actually not allowed to share uh data with uh that the cameras uh capture um as part of the demonstration program from New York State.

There's very strict limitations on what we can share uh with anybody who is not the registered owner of the vehicle.

Okay, and it'll be secured.

All right, thank you.

Great, thank you.

Thanks.

Uh for item number 37.

This is just uh annual agreement.

Um DP is coming through TPW because they pay for it, but this is for the entire city, all the departments utilize this uh vigilant hearing uh tests that they administer.

Um so if there's no questions on that, we can move on to item number 38 um to talk about the agreement with parking and Laz.

Great.

Um so uh we enter or we we put out an RFP a couple of months ago for uh operator of our parking garages.

This would be for four of the city-owned parking garages, uh Washington Street, Fayette, Madison Irving, and Center Armory.

Uh there was an RFP committee.

Uh members of the common council were on that committee.

Uh we received three bids um and the RFP uh voted unanimously to select Laz as our preferred vendor, um, given both their past performance and um as the lowest bidder for all cost categories, including security staffing, operating staff, operating expense budget, management fees, and equipment.

Um, and additionally, Laz is offering as part of this agreement uh to invest 100,000 into entry floor beautification and landscaping for the entire garage portfolio and to bear the cost and project management for EV charging installations for Fayette Madison Irving and Washington Street Garages valued at an additional $25,000.

Um this is a three-year contract with two two-year renewals that would require council approval for those renewals.

Connor, what's our plan with the parking garages?

It's a great question, Council.

I know you and I have had a lot of discussions about this as we last shared.

That's correct.

We're still well.

So the last time that we discussed this, Counselor, we had a scope of services for a professional uh contractor to come in and help us work through what to do with those assets, thinking about the financial um upside of those, and then also the the cost for capital improvement.

Um, as we discussed, that is that item is not bondable, so we would need to find uh funds to pay for that stuff.

I heard we just shifted 4.4 million dollars from bonding to cash capital.

So we kept that in our reserve.

We can start.

Sounds like there's money out there for this project.

We can absolutely take a look at that, but um you know, right now we don't have a line item available for it, but we'd be happy to explore other avenues.

I'm sorry, I maybe I've missed this, but uh what are you talking about a consultant?

You're talking about a consultant, right?

Well, the question was what should we be doing long term with our parking garages?

We have four garages there.

Uh so there's a couple of different things that we would want to look at.

We'd want to look at the urban planning and financial uh revenue potential of those garages, particularly in light of IED one playing uh major change in uh parking needs.

Right now, there's a little over a thousand parking spaces underneath the I81 viaduct that will be relocated as part of the 81 effort.

Um, and that will change the landscape for the supply and demand of street parking and surface parking throughout the city.

And so we would want to make sure that we have uh you know expertise on hand to consider uh the revenue potential of those garages and then also the capital cost for uh some capital uh necessary upgrades uh and potentially even the long-term uh disposition or demolition of those aging infrastructure.

I think we probably should have we should probably discuss this as far as having a consultant because there's a lot more parking uh uh situations that can impact the neighborhoods around not only 81, but I'm thinking about the inner harbor.

Obviously, when those things start, I mean, when the aquarium gets built and a few other visitors over there, there's going to be probably a need for parking garage over there, I imagine too.

I I agreed.

I think a citywide approach to examining all of our parking assets and infrastructure would be a recommended next step.

Well, I would ask probably the council of gathers is probably in councilor Williams would probably want to have a joint committee meeting at some point to consider the consultant.

Sure.

And I'd be happy to share our draft scope of work regarding that that effort as well.

We can.

Great.

Counselor, are you going to let the call it to a committee meeting?

Yes, if we can get for uh parking garages or for we can do both around the same day, same time.

Sure.

Uh to knock that out.

I think the length of the term too is uh three years.

I mean, I should have discussed this earlier, but with two two-year renewal actions.

I mean, I you this is the only bidder, right?

No, there were three bidders.

This one was significantly uh the lowest bidder.

And that they've been our current operator uh as well.

Uh gentlemen, very pleased with their efforts.

Um good there.

Great, thank you very much.

Thank you.

Uh item number 39.

Good afternoon, counselors.

Jeff Rogolo, uh assistant director of fleet.

39 is to appropriate the funds from the sewers uh capital account for the purchase of new equipment not to exceed $673,000.

Any questions?

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right, item uh 40 through 45.

We have Mr.

Telsey come up to speak about this.

Good afternoon, counselors.

Items 40 through 45 cover uh authorizing bonds for three separate pots of money to cover street lighting, interstates, and upgrades and parks.

Projects we've been doing since we started.

I always ask with the interstates.

Do we get reimbursed by the state?

No, we don't.

Only time we get reimbursed, counselor, is if it's a complete replacement.

Ken, just just slightly different since you are here.

The um the opera Anadaga.

Remember the conversation we had about lighting it up and it was going to be in plan.

How is that going?

So there are solar lights along at Anadaga Park coming off of Arlington where the big concern was those lights are up and running.

They run from what parkside coming up from the the south, and they run right all the way down to the tennis courts.

Okay.

Those are running there operational.

Good.

Thank you.

Any other questions?

Thank you, Ken.

Appreciate it.

I don't I you know uh counselor talk.

I mean, how's how how how are we doing as far as parks go?

Uh Ken, as far as parks lighting goes.

So uh I would say a good 15 to 20 parks have been uh upgraded um with solar lights.

We just did a couple up in Westmoreland.

We've had some issues up there by the uh basketball course.

We installed two solar lights this week.

Um we're right now we're doing light bar park along that pathway.

Yes, uh that's a nice little project we're doing.

Um hopefully in the next two weeks we'll be doing meet them tennis rink or tennis court.

We're gonna be putting eight lights around the tennis court uh and then getting rid of those high pressure sodiums that are up on the wood pole.

Um if you have any other parks that we see, if you guys see that you think needs lighting, just shoot me uh uh an email, a text, and and I'll jump on it.

I just want to commend Ken for bringing that up.

I mean, as far as solar lighting goes for the park system, uh we really appreciate the neighborhoods really appreciate it.

You know, instituted the new technology like that.

It really means a difference.

Thank you.

Right next we have engineering coming up for items 46 uh through 48.

Good afternoon, counselors.

Mary Robison, city engineer.

Item 46 is a revocable permission to SUNY ESF to construct, own, operate, maintain an electrical meter, and four conduits for an electrical service in the 700 block of Standard Street.

It's one of our standard revocable permissions.

Okay, revocable, right?

Revocable.

Any questions on that one?

Uh no.

Item 47 is uh another revocable permission to WLLC, which is Joe Hucko, um, to own, operate, maintain, and repair existing underground vaults in the 100 block of bank street, which is bank alley between Fayette and Washington.

Um he owns uh McCarthy Building, University Building, Snow, and Merchants Building.

So this is to do repair necessary repairs on the vaults associated with these buildings.

Any questions?

Thank you.

I'm sorry.

So these vault vaults are vaults are owned by us or by Mr.

Huckleck.

Mr.

Huckama.

Okay.

But they impact our sidewalks, correct?

Is that the idea?

They impact our sidewalks, yes.

So he'll be doing sidewalk work as well.

Um 48 is a rescinding a revocable permission to SU that we approved in May.

Um we processed the revocable permission and they later determined they didn't need it.

They changed their plans.

So we're just requesting to rescind the ordinance to clean our up our records.

I guess I do have one question in regards to the replacement of a lot of uh projects to happen.

Um as far as just using item 47 for an example.

Um, when the sidewalks are being replaced, or if there's any work like that, uh do the does a city do the replacement, or does the owner hire a contractor to do the replacement?

Um in this particular case, um Mr.

Hucko is going to replace the sidewalk, but I believe MBD has some grant funding that they are going to offer him to do that work.

But just um, and then we'll have an inspector to go to make sure that the work is being done to our standards.

That's that's my concern.

Yes.

All right.

Thank you.

Um there's no further questions, Madam President.

Thank you.

Counselor Nave.

Thank you, madam president.

To succeed Olivia Saccarori, who has resigned for this appointment for the first council district.

Is there any questions?

Thank you.

Thank you.

Councilor Hogan.

Thank you, President Hudson.

I have uh items 52 59.

So uh I will uh 50 is ready we had a uh obviously we had a uh special use permit public hearing on that uh 50 we had meetings this morning on 51 52 53 and 54 and I'm calling them all ready uh 55 and 56 um they are ready um 56 I got a question on who would handle Jake 56 that doesn't take in the um the ball field's still gonna be there or not I couldn't tell but from the map uh yes yes the ball so there'll still be a baseball field there okay uh but the so the parking the parking I imagine is for the school correct is it for foulers um this is the the city's lot for uh police police oh this is the police lot 1171 I mean they're all contiguous so right so so we're expanding it towards Magnolia Street is that the idea I like I said I the maps are pushing back yeah so this would be private uh municipal parking for police yeah okay okay uh 57 that's the same existing yeah we spoke about that it's at the kind of right side uh if you're facing it uh the same tenant space that's been there and we we haven't had any issues with them so okay uh 58 I think I'm gonna have a I'm gonna have a uh committee meeting on that just so we can get into that in depth yeah uh I sent the summary out so we we can definitely do that and I'm okay with 59 too unless there's any questions from the council thank you councilor Williams thank you madam president I have item 60 through 64 um we're gonna hold 60 I believe the 17th is that the date that we had settled on for a committee meeting at two o'clock um and I need to let our staff know of that um and moving on to 61 thank you Michael hello again counselors Michael Lehman Deputy Commissioner with the assessment department I have items 61 and 62 uh 61 is the department of assessment is requesting to authorize the retaining of an appraiser to appraise the property at 108 uh I'm sorry yes 108 uh Elmwood Avenue um the property owner at 106 has expressed interest in purchasing it it's a vacant lot owned by the city thank you okay uh 62 uh this uh is a lease agreement request with the Syracuse City School District uh if you recall the city purchased the property at 516 prospect avenue earlier this year uh on behalf of the school districts and this uh lease agreement is a financial vehicle basically for the school paying the city back the school district rather thank you thanks very much and then 63 64 will be discussed executive session and can we do executive session Monday because there's another item that we want to talk in the executive session we're prepared today it just depends on oh okay well okay yeah yeah yeah the one item that we're gonna talk about and I I don't have time for that as I gotta leave so I don't know do you want to do both do all these in executive session with that one or you just want to do that one Monday it's up to you because they can they can go we can go into executive session.

So the item you're talking about is going to be on the waiver waiver agenda or what no that's a separate issue.

Don't you well just an item that's coming no I would just put that out there you you can do as normal yeah it's fine Joe Barry first assistant corporation counsel we have two settlements on the agenda that uh we're ready to discuss today if you feel you have time in addition we um our office had uh a proposal about a legal change and how we handle claims that we wanted to uh advise the council on before placing it on a future agenda to get your feedback so that's a legal discussion that would be eligible for executive session as well but that's the one I want him to wait to Monday to discuss.

So that's a legal discussion that would be eligible for executive session as well.

But that's the one I want them to wait to Monday to discuss.

Yeah, but we'll take these two today.

Sounds good.

Sounds good.

Okay.

That's it.

Thank you, Madam Breaker.

All righty, Councillor Jones Rouser, who's taking her agenda items?

Who's on her committee?

Yeah.

I'll take it if you want to.

Housing.

I'm on the housing system.

I would I would gladly take her items.

Um item 65 through 72 Okay.

Afternoon, Counselors.

Uh Michelle Spianski, Deputy Commissioner of Neighborhood Development.

Uh items 65 and 66 are uh companion pieces which we discussed at the um they were held from the uh most recent council meeting.

Um so these are authorizing the transfer of funds to home headquarters for uh dollars that were awarded to them in the uh city's 2526 general operating budget.

Um so they were held uh so that Surah could hold their board meeting and memorialize that this is what is happening with those funds.

So that happened on Monday and was approved.

Did you change the short title amount?

I had changed it last week, so I think that uh they'll say 725.

Yep, yeah, correct.

In that one.

So yes, that one does need to be changed.

So it says the correct amount in item sixty-five and item sixty-six.

I do believe that is a typo.

Thank you.

Any other questions on those two?

Cool.

Thank you.

Uh and then item 67 uh is authorization to enter into agreement with HUD uh for fiscal year 23 community projects funding grants uh to be used for blight busting and uh the emergency repair program uh for an amount not to exceed one million dollars.

Uh these were funds that we were awarded through the uh congressional projects funds.

Um they're not uh like a typical app grant application in that they were something that we applied for, um, but they were a part of kind of the um annual uh fiscal spending priorities.

Uh so this was something that got uh funded through Senator Strumer's office.

Uh we had thought that we had done the ordinance quite a while back to memorialize this, so just a housekeeping item.

So um and those funds will be targeted for the purposes of um blight remediation, the blight busting program and emergency abatement.

Um we don't necessarily have a exact list of what those properties look like, understanding the nature of how we target funds for both of those programs, but afternoon, counselors Michael Collins, Commissioner for Neighborhood and Business Development.

Uh so we have issued and received response for an RFP for uh the Financial Empowerment Center.

I will uh the committee met uh and I will have at the next meeting uh proposal for engaging in contract uh with that entity.

In the meantime, home headquarters has agreed to uh continue uh so that we can have continuity in service.

And so this would simply be uh an extension of that.

Uh I I did make a slight mistake in when we I upgraded the letter.

Um you guys ended up getting uh two letters.

I say upgraded.

Um I suppose the second letter was better than my first letter.

You wouldn't know this, but so it was technically an upgrade.

I'm gonna go with that.

Um but I made a mistake.

And so uh this amount says 385,000.

It's it does.

Oh, you changed it.

Yeah, we had time yesterday.

So we stopped in.

So the letter's correct.

Um shout out to Brian.

He's the man, because that happened yesterday.

Thank you, sir.

Um questions related to home headquarters until we get to the contract and then it will just seamlessly move.

Uh uh correct.

Okay.

And then uh like I said, I'll I'll have a letter for the next meeting.

Um uh the 24th.

Twenty f for the uh for not for that one since we just turned the yes for the twenty-fourth.

Okay.

So home headquarters has no capacity.

Is that why we setting it out?

Home headquarters uh with the way that home headquarters business has grown, uh they are shifting away from the this service is more of a standalone for them now than uh they expected it to be.

So they were they were ready to uh relinquish it and have another provider in the community do it.

Uh and so they asked us to uh send it out for RFP.

And I had a question earlier about um because when when when FEC started, it was was started through uh Bloomberg funding.

Years years uh actually actually Bloomberg funding was not part of it.

Uh the initial funding was through the Centers for Financial Empowerment out of New York City.

But at exactly the same time that we were doing some of the Bloomberg work, uh similarly innovative.

So absolutely we'd see what those went together.

Yeah, that I mean you remember.

Um so it is it that does it mean that the money that's got star that this got started with is is dried out.

They don't years ago.

Okay.

Uh yeah, so uh we've been uh we through the first couple years after the money ran uh uh had expired, that grant had expired, we were using uh ARPA funds.

We then transitioned to part ARPA and part general fund.

It's now fully in the general fund budget.

Okay.

Yep.

Okay.

Good.

Okay.

Thank you, Council.

And then 69 through 72.

Good afternoon, Councillor Smaddo Jay Commission of Assessment.

Uh 68 and 60, uh sorry, 69 and 70 are similar in that we're amending a pair of ordinances authorizing conveyance to the land bank.

Um the descriptions reflected improvements on the property that are since gone.

So uh we're amending to reflect that they're vacant lots now.

71 and 72 are a pair of uh vacant lots on Fairfield Avenue that we're looking to comp uh convey longtime city owned property.

All right, thank you, Commissioner.

Thank you all.

Thank you, Madam Griffin.

Thank you.

I need a motion to adjourn to executive session.

So second.

Second.

All in favor?

All righty, we adjourn.