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Syracuse Common Council Meeting - November 5, 2025

Public MeetingsWednesday, November 5, 2025
BodySyracuse, New York
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DateWednesday, November 5, 2025
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11:13

This is a local division for the uh city clerk.

11:20

I I don't I don't know do law have any.

11:22

It's Joe Berry.

11:23

We're all set.

11:24

We should be all set.

11:24

Yeah, we're set to go.

11:26

We talked all about it, yeah.

11:27

All right, we're good to go.

11:29

Alrighty.

11:29

Counselor Caldwell.

11:31

Thank you, Madam President.

11:33

Blessings to all today.

11:34

Okay, cool.

11:35

Commissioner Burr, we have items 10 to 13.

11:38

Good afternoon.

11:39

Say Shabur Commissioner Parks.

11:41

I have 10, 11, 12, and 13.

11:44

So 10 is an amendment to the ordinance.

11:46

Um with an agreement with Terry Horse, our landscape architect, um, for general services, um not to exceed 125,000.

11:57

Okay.

12:00

Number 11 is with um and uh um I'm probably gonna mess this up.

12:06

Enest Tech, it's a software corp for software for e-gaming for Wilson and um Southwest Community Center.

12:15

It's a one-year period total not to exceed 4800.

12:21

12.

12:23

12 is the acceptance um from the near West Side Resident Padrisco.

12:27

This is our amendment because a name was spelled wrong.

12:30

It's Rocky with a Y, not an EY, and um the location.

12:35

So one plaque in Leavenworth, one in Burnett Park.

12:38

Um, it's a donation in the amount of two hundred dollars for the purchase of those um two memorial plaques, and parks will install them.

12:47

Item 13.

12:48

And then 13 is with um Route 80.

12:51

It's the stables for our horse um drawn carriages for not to cede 5200 for the holidays um at Burnett Park.

13:01

I think we're all sad.

13:02

Anybody have any questions?

13:04

Thank you, Madam President.

13:05

Thank you.

13:06

Thank you.

13:07

Councilman Lich.

13:09

Thank you, Madam President.

13:10

I have item fourteen to twenty-one.

13:15

Um wondering if Chief Shaw is in.

13:37

Yeah.

13:37

Yeah, we're close.

13:39

We're close.

13:40

You close?

13:40

So you want me to keep it on for another session?

13:43

If you don't mind.

13:44

Okay.

13:45

Okay.

13:46

I just don't want to keep it on here.

13:48

Or we can put it back on.

13:50

Yeah, yeah, that's what I was thinking.

13:51

Pull it, take it out, look on it and bring it back.

13:54

That's fine.

13:55

Okay.

13:55

All right.

13:56

So we're gonna withdraw item item 14 and we'll bring it back.

14:02

Okay.

14:04

Uh Janet, are you taking 15?

14:06

I thought I heard Janet.

14:08

Are you taking 15?

14:10

Um also, and I don't know how if I promise you that you sit there, but item 15.

14:16

We have a committee meeting tomorrow.

14:18

So if you rather hold your question.

14:27

I hope that's my recollection.

14:29

Janet Burke, the director of research.

14:32

I'm here to talk about the Exalt program.

14:35

DCJS had given us 1.5 million dollars in order to replicate the exalt program that's doing really great work in New York City.

14:44

And this we had asked to enter into an agreement with Exalt.

14:48

And that's what we're here for.

14:50

Yeah, and we will uh I guess we'll talk more especially around the structure of of tomorrow committee meeting.

15:00

But you know, it's probably a lot of counsel does question around it.

15:01

We'll save it save them for tomorrow.

15:04

Okay.

15:05

130 tomorrow, right here.

15:06

All right.

15:08

Um just to let you know in the book there is uh scope of the work and the budget, all that that they have.

15:13

Yeah, it's all that.

15:14

It's great.

15:15

Thank you.

15:18

Um item 16 is going to be a street sign designation for Syracuse 8.

15:26

Syracuse 8 is a group of athlete from Syracuse University who back then and they protest the the treatment of athlete and they wanted better treatment of athlete and equity around it.

15:40

Um so it it's it's it's it's exciting.

15:43

There's pictures on the back.

15:46

Uh November 28th, they will be here uh around that around the uh Waverly and Walnut area to recognize and dedicate the street to to their to their cause and their great work.

16:01

Um if if if anyone wanna have question or want to support right.

16:08

Um great uh madam clerk, would you everybody on?

16:14

Yeah.

16:14

I I'm not I want you to know that I'm on board with this.

16:17

Oh I remember as a teenager and how they got suspended by coach Schorschwalder.

16:28

Yeah and you know how they were blackballed.

16:31

It was a it was a uh a difficult time period in our country with the Vietnam War student protest, which I'm quite aware of, and so it was a time when the civil rights fight was still going on in the 1970s, and what they did was very courageous, and it was not popular because in that era what was should have been popular was unpopular, and protest was considered un American.

17:00

So what they did uh was very brave of them, and it made the national headlines and it made a lot of disputes that I had a pay to remember something.

17:10

I remember that in high school.

17:13

It was a difficult time.

17:14

Thank you, Council Nave.

17:16

That was that I I I didn't know that.

17:17

Yeah, you know, so thank you right.

17:22

Oh, I can go on.

17:23

Yeah, thank you for uh running.

17:25

Council Navi says you can go on if you want my knowledge for subject to time.

17:31

Well, well, Monday, uh our former um legislator, uh Carmen Harlow will be here.

17:39

Good, right, as well as he's he's was also a quarterback through Syracuse University.

17:44

So he's gonna be here, so wanna hear more.

17:47

And then, like I said, the dedication will be November 28th, and some of those members will be here.

17:54

So what what a great moment for our city?

17:58

Um item 17, Chief, are you taking that?

18:02

Uh yep, Richard, first deputy chief of police.

18:05

Uh 17's uh requesting an application to the United States uh Department of Justice under the Office of the Bureau of Justice Assistance Grant Programs and an amount not to exceed 141,000 on behalf of the uh Department of Police to be used to purchase 50 new body worn cameras related to accessories and licensing fee.

18:24

Uh there is a local match of 50 percent, uh 70,000 uh to be charged from the below listed account.

18:32

The purpose of this grant would be to buy 50 new body worn cameras for our SWAT team.

18:37

So SWAT, yep, so that they'll have cameras on them.

18:42

Currently, what what happens is they have to uh they respond to the scene.

18:46

Somebody goes down to our charging station, picks up the cameras, who knows what could happen in the meantime, it won't be recorded.

18:53

The idea of these cameras is to have them dedicated to the SWAT team, so that when they get to the scene, everybody already has a camera.

18:59

Did you get one from me?

19:03

I've got one.

19:04

I know I asked this before.

19:05

Did um did you guys get the device that if uh if anything is pulled off the belt that the camera automatically turns off?

19:14

I'm sorry.

19:16

The device that you guys asked for last year, something that like triggered the camera to automatically turn off, turn on if you like put the gun or put the uh taser did that.

19:28

I don't think we have that yet, so no, we don't have that yet.

19:32

You don't have it yet, okay.

19:33

And there was also a conversation around, and I I don't know if I don't know if you already have this that if the siren is on, it automatically should trigger the camera, right?

19:44

So say if the police is on a chat chase, for example.

19:50

So that's for the that's for the you're talking about the dash cams.

19:53

We're talking about body worn cameras.

19:55

So there's there's a uh policy, I can provide it to you that tells you when the camera, I thought I did this, but like we can do it.

20:00

I thought I did this, but we can do it.

20:01

Um sign you why the uh cameras turn on for the body uh the dash cams.

20:08

So there is that that that's shopper, but we have a problem.

20:11

You have that too.

20:12

When they turn on, I thought I sent that a couple months ago, but I can send it again.

20:16

Okay, what about what about what counselor Joe Rouser is asking?

20:19

Is there any mechanism that if if an officer they asked for that last year, so I don't know if they got it yet, but we funded it.

20:28

I just happen to have my information technology sergeant here.

20:31

She may have more knowledge on that than I do.

20:34

Do you have anything to add?

20:37

Sergeant, I'm back with technology.

20:38

That was the sidearm uh trigger.

20:41

So it would trigger the body cam to activate if you release your weapon from your holster.

20:45

That I do not know if that was presented to the team here, but we do not have that in effect right now.

20:52

We didn't never order those.

20:54

Okay.

20:55

Could we, Matt?

20:56

Can we go back to find out if you guys can tell you?

21:03

Yep, but it's called signal sidearm.

21:05

Okay, can we track down our side arm sidearm?

21:08

Yep.

21:09

Signal sidearm.

21:10

Signal.

21:12

And it's uh it's an additional accessory that's mounted on your your holder, your holster.

21:20

So when you pull your weapon, it activates your body camera.

21:27

Okay.

21:27

We'll track track it down.

21:28

If we if if it came through here, we'll track it down to see what date and did we pass it or not?

21:34

Right.

21:35

All right.

21:35

Yeah, if we get that, we'll get we'll dig into it and find out what's going on with it.

21:39

That'd be wonderful.

21:40

Thank you.

21:40

Okay, thank you.

21:41

Uh item 18.

21:45

Or does anyone have question for 17?

21:55

Uh items 18.

22:01

Uh good afternoon.

22:02

I'm Michael Mons, the fire chief.

22:04

Um, items 18 and 19 are to authorized uh spending to the fray costs for Syracuse fire stations and facilities for maintenance and rehabilitation.

22:14

Um our fire stations are over 50 years old, and this funding uh focuses on three main categories.

22:20

Um external facility upgrades, internal upgrades, and environmental and motor system replacement.

22:26

Uh we are looking at fixing um oil water separators in three of our stations, um, fire exhaust removal systems and uh maintenance at all of our stations.

22:36

Um we want to maintain our fuel tank systems, um our overhead doors, windows, basically everything we need to do to maintain our fire stations.

22:44

Uh this is what that money's gonna be allocated for.

22:46

So that's um number 18 and 19.

22:49

Chief Miles, let me ask you a question.

22:51

So, with all of the upgrades and the rehabs that we're doing, how how long do you propose that that's gonna last?

22:58

Can you say that one more time?

22:59

I didn't know.

22:59

All of the rehabs and the upgrades that we're doing at the stations, how long do you see that lasting?

23:05

Well, I think at some point we need to build new fighter stations to replace them.

23:10

I mean, this money we've been getting because there's been so little investment over the past few decades.

23:16

We've been catching up the last few years, replacing roofs and overhead doors, things that have never been replaced in the 50 years, um, only when there was emergency, so we're going around doing preventive maintenance now.

23:26

Um, once we get through the cycle, we have a matrix that I can share with you that every station and all those items and we go through and every year we try to fix um itemize uh some of these repair projects in every year.

23:40

And um, as soon as we get through that matrix, it's almost time to start doing it again because um roofs and different things they only last a certain amount of time.

23:48

So um I think this is a continual process to make sure we maintain the fire stations so we don't end up like a situation over at our maintenance um facility.

23:58

Um the issue that was at our maintenance facility, two of three of our fire stations right now where we have inspected it.

24:05

We're looking at those stations because we have to do some type of repair work over there also.

24:09

So that's what this money is, some of this money is gonna be used for also to make sure those are in good shape.

24:15

What specific station are those two?

24:17

Uh station two, five, and nine.

24:19

Two five and nine?

24:20

Yep.

24:22

Two is over on Danforth and Salina Street, five is on Getas and Ari, and nine is at uh sure Av.

24:28

So those are the systems that have been um we've been we've been preparing to start looking and examining how good a shape they are in.

24:38

But once you start digging in, we gotta be ready to tear up the whole floor.

24:42

So that's what this money is to start exploring those uh things in these firehouses on.

24:48

For the floor, yes.

24:49

All of these oil water separators that are in the floor, so when diesel oil, anything drips onto the floor per the DC, they we gotta have a system that catches those fluids and separates them from the water that goes out to our sewers.

25:03

So um those are being evaluated.

25:07

They were evaluated last year in our citywide comprehensive study.

25:11

So we're starting to put money in so we can start evaluating those and getting those fixed before they turn into a bigger issue.

25:18

So I didn't add that was was that in is this in our capital plan?

25:22

Um yes, is it this is in the capital plan, yes sir.

25:25

Okay.

25:25

Any other questions?

25:27

Uh counselor, I just want to say I've been with uh Chief Mons.

25:30

We've had prior discussions on this on uh station house too on Danforth Streets.

25:35

I've been in there, and in my discussions with you, Chief, is that inevitably we will have to make improvements at that firehouse.

25:45

Uh it's aging.

25:47

I'm concerned about the floor, and I think we may have to look at an expansion.

25:51

There is some property in that area that I think we're gonna have to uh look for an expansion of that firehouse.

25:58

Uh and I got a couple ideas of what that property is.

26:01

So we have to look maybe into the new year uh for capital improvements on the firehouses, but I'm looking at station two.

26:09

Okay.

26:09

All right, thank you.

26:10

Okay.

26:10

And anything else?

26:12

Good.

26:13

Okay, and um 19 and 20.

26:15

Oh, sorry, excuse me, 20 and 21 are just to allocate money for our communications program, which um allows us to buy portable radios, um, our mobile data terminals on our apparatus, and it's gonna allow us to buy um a communication system for our technical rescue team, whether in high noise and tactical environments.

26:34

So um, that's a $31,000 request.

26:38

Okay.

26:38

A new question.

26:39

Thank you.

26:40

Thank you.

26:41

Thank you, Council.

26:41

That would be all for me, madam president.

26:43

Thank you, Councilor Paniagua.

26:45

Good afternoon, everybody.

26:46

I have item number 22.

26:52

Thank you, Richard.

26:54

Good afternoon, Council Rick Alsever, Director of Human Resources.

26:57

Uh item 22 was passed uh on the last cycle, but uh it's a name correction, not be passed, but one group who is their parent company.

27:05

Um and we have to make sure the names align for finance to be able to pay those folks.

27:09

So simply name correction to the parent company, not be passed, but one group.

27:14

Are there any questions?

27:15

Any questions concerns?

27:16

Uh have we got any reports from them yet at all yet?

27:19

Just to see how everything's going.

27:20

No, we so we can't pay them until this is settled.

27:23

So once we get this settled, we'll be in the clear to start working with them.

27:28

Okay.

27:31

Thank you.

27:32

Absolutely.

27:33

Thank you.

27:34

Councilor Gathers.

27:35

Thank you, Madam President.

27:36

I have items uh 23 through 34.

27:42

Afternoon all that OJ, Commissioner of Assessment.

27:45

These are companion pieces.

27:46

We're looking to amend two ordinances from earlier in the year, um, bonding for and authorizing design for the new parking lot adjacent to the public safety building.

27:55

Um looking to expand that scope to uh construction and uh continue that project just for tw just for 23, right?

28:06

23 and 24.

28:07

Uh their companions.

28:09

24.

28:09

Are we making amendments to exactly what the parking lot's gonna be used for?

28:12

Is that what this is?

28:13

Or so when I presented this in February, um there was the expectation this was gonna be uh municipal lot, there'd be some flexibility in the use.

28:21

Um police would obviously fill it up during their power days.

28:25

Um it, you know, is being constructed to fit their needs, but in times when it's not being used, it would be available for public use.

28:33

As we've gotten a little closer operationally to understanding what's gonna be going on at 1153, there's a thought that it's gonna be in use by police all the time.

28:41

So we'd like the language to reflect that expectation.

28:44

Well, I mean, it does raise a little bit of concern is the past we talked about this that we're gonna have uh spots available for both public and also the police department as well.

28:54

Where's the public gonna park if they have to go over with Oh we uh we we do have uh on-site parking for the public for visitors right adjacent to the uh public entrance on the west side of um of 1153?

29:05

And I think we're gonna be working really hard in advance of opening to um communicate this to the public um internally and externally.

29:12

So yeah, no, that's that is covered on site, not physically covered, but taken care of.

29:20

I think we have several hundred parking spots.

29:25

Exact exact count alludes me right now.

29:27

Not for the police, but for the community.

29:31

I think we have 14.

29:32

I'll double check.

29:33

We're exploring some uh creative on street opportunities that might be more of a midterm expectation than something we can do um in February, but I don't think we will be underparked with respect to the public.

29:46

That said, this is an iterative process, and we're gonna we're gonna make sure that everybody can get here.

29:54

So my only thought process was if there's gonna be is I mean a new police station is 40.

30:00

Is there gonna be parking on a street where people can talk on the streets?

30:03

Or we're gonna say it's not gonna be anyway.

30:05

As of February 1st, there will be no parking on West Fayette or South Gettys.

30:11

There does exist parking on Magnolia, and we will have this off-street public lot directly adjacent to the entrance um for public use exclusively.

30:21

So are you finished, counselor?

30:24

Um so to the east of the building.

30:26

All their parking spots their parking lot will be filled with.

30:30

That is that is gated fobbed exclusively for police and fire use.

30:34

And the southeast of the building we're talking about this lot southeast of the building.

30:38

No, no, no, that this is due west of the building.

30:40

This is j just um sandwiched between the building and the elevated rail bridge there.

30:44

That's the public parking lot.

30:46

That's the public entrance too.

30:48

Okay.

30:48

And the south side of West Fayette.

30:51

Yes, the south side of the block.

30:53

That's right.

30:54

What uh have we made inquiries and try to get the north side of West Fayette Street?

30:58

What's it owned by the world?

31:00

It is.

31:01

We're using it though all the time.

31:02

I mean, not we're using better all the construction.

31:04

I think that's city right of way.

31:05

Um yeah, contractors have been filling up that spot north of the curb line.

31:09

But we have a lot of activity in that area that gear building and AHAP building that uh running doing.

31:18

Um maybe you if you could get us a total amount of spaces a little bit.

31:25

We'll do a little better at both quantifying this, but also getting this into some kind of a map form because I recognize it's difficult to conceptualize what I'm talking and waving arms up there.

31:35

So the sweat, how many spaces will that be?

31:38

I think it's 14.

31:38

But I'll double check.

31:40

I mean 14, that's all.

31:41

14 for yeah, it's 14 more than exist at the public safety building.

31:47

Exactly.

31:48

I mean, that's one of the big things.

31:50

Us moving up there, which maybe we have more parking.

31:53

This move is all pluses, yeah.

31:54

Yeah, four dollars.

31:55

Okay.

31:57

Counselor, I'm gonna go.

32:01

So for the new public safety building, I got two mics, yeah.

32:06

Um the new public safety building is just gonna be police and fire in that building.

32:14

That is correct, yes.

32:16

And then public safety building downtown.

32:22

There's nobody didn't they use it wasn't a jail up top.

32:26

No.

32:27

What was up, what was up at the top part of the in current PSB in 511 South State?

32:32

Uh six stories is all you know, public safety issues, you know, uh city marshal's there, courts are there, DA, I think has some space.

32:40

But uh, but no, the the office tower is all human use.

32:44

The jail is the rear wing um on the South Townsend side, yeah.

32:48

Okay.

32:50

Okay.

32:50

Used to be.

32:51

Right?

32:52

I know I'm not tripping, right?

32:53

Oh no, no, yeah, yeah, yeah.

32:54

It's vacant now, but that that was me, but yes, I know I'm like that building on the side wasn't always there.

32:59

So I'm yeah, yeah.

33:01

That was the horrible one.

33:03

Yeah.

33:05

Any uh any other questions on 23 and 24?

33:11

All right, do you have 25 as well?

33:14

No.

33:14

No.

33:14

All right, don't it's good afternoon, Anne Fordak, first deputy commissioner of the Syracuse DPW.

33:25

25 is a contract with Collier Engineering and Design.

33:30

And so um it's a just amending the existing contract, and they are who we use for the interconnect system, which interconnect is the traffic signals.

33:39

So when things go bad, we need somebody who's qualified to fix them and work on these projects.

33:46

What's the reason for the increase?

33:55

It's um construction has been extended due to the need for close coordination with utility providers, grid, and others as well as other construction projects around the city.

34:03

So as you can see from this summer, it was relentless with 81 work.

34:09

You know, engineering does work, we do work, contractors doing work, grid is doing work, water is doing a lot of work, and so all of that needs a lot of coordination.

34:18

We're doing more work than ever, which is a good thing.

34:20

So any questions for 25.

34:25

Okay, 26.

34:26

I'm sorry, I did have a question.

34:28

Does any of this also connect to the um what's the name study?

34:35

Um what you put on last week.

34:39

Oh, yeah, vision zero.

34:40

Does any of this like I can't say that it's intricately connected to that?

34:46

I mean, our traffic signal system trap, you know, stop lights.

34:52

Ties into any plan, but nothing specific.

35:00

26.

35:00

26.

35:01

So waste tech.

35:02

So this is uh the like parent name of the company Rubicon route where we've been using for the snow technology that gives our new plow drivers, it tells them what our snow routes are.

35:15

So when you're learning to drive a plow, this makes your life a lot easier that you're not trying to figure out someone calling out street names to you and you trying to figure out you know how to attack that route.

35:26

This tells you how to run that route, and that's one last thing for them to worry about.

35:30

And so this is um a new contract, the current one is expired.

35:36

And um we've been having some conversations, and I'm not sure if if the Rubicon um uh device notifies at all, but um there have been some incidents where some of the vehicles hit pedestrian vehicles.

35:56

Does it indicate an impact at all?

35:59

I think that's more of a Samsara question.

36:02

Um Sam Sarah does the GPS and that ties into the controls within the cab.

36:09

So I know Sam Sarah can be alerted um for GPS, like if you're speeding.

36:15

It's a good question I can ask Jeff Rigola.

36:18

We know our vehicles, right?

36:19

Um my vehicle will tell if I had a hard stop.

36:23

It's hattles on me, right?

36:24

And you can connect it to an app.

36:26

So I wouldn't see why um Samsara wouldn't have similar controls, like if there was a hard break or a hard turn that there would be some type of alert.

36:34

But when there is a report prior to this administration, somebody calls and says I was on uh Forest Hill, right?

36:43

And somebody hit my car.

36:45

I don't know, I think it was a plow, but you have no proof, right?

36:49

We can now look and find out what plows were even in that neighborhood.

36:53

Yeah, and then pull that one's GPS.

36:55

Does the time match up?

36:57

Then we can pull the footage as well.

37:00

Like before, you could just be like, well, we weren't there, or maybe we were, I don't know.

37:04

So that's some of the concerns that we've been having is that um people are you know waking up to find their cars hit with no, you know, and they don't know if it was a search, a neighborhood and uh somebody.

37:18

Is that the DPW driver should you know should report they should report every accident and so there is discipline taken if we do find out there was an accident that they did not report.

37:30

Okay.

37:31

Yep.

37:31

All right.

37:32

Yeah, I would like to get information if there's an impact.

37:35

Yeah, I'll ask Jeff for Gola about it.

37:39

All right, next one is where were we?

37:44

27.

37:45

So this is also the same company, and this is amendment.

37:49

So this is our sanitation, and so this does the same routing, um, but it also keeps track of each and every house on every route, and the crew and sanitation said they need more tablets uh so that they can effectively manage this, that crew leaders need a tablet, the employees need a tablet, and so this is just an amendment of adding 10 tablets to that contract.

38:15

Any questions?

38:17

28.

38:18

So 28, 29, 30 are all fuel.

38:22

And this is people who fuel up at DPW.

38:25

So we have you know contracts with Andrew County, the school district, and Syracuse Housing for fuel, and they have their own cards that we keep track of how much gas they got.

38:40

Very similarly is 3132 33, but this is for salt, not fuel, and so it's upstate central and Syracuse Housing Authority.

38:50

Um, we do keep track and of the amount of salt they take from us, and uh they pay us back for that.

38:59

Questions 34?

39:04

So 34.

39:05

I'm gonna need Ian's help with this.

39:08

Um so there's a waiver.

39:11

We had come before for the hybrid building, it's like a fabric building that's on concrete blocks because we need some storage for the recycling and trash carts over at our Pete Street location, and we used a source well contract and went through onto a county purchasing for that.

39:28

Um, but I believe engineering and legal said we need an uh additional waiver.

39:37

Did I explain that appropriately?

39:39

Okay.

39:43

Any questions?

39:48

Okay with this.

39:48

Yes.

39:50

That's all you needed to hear.

39:52

Thank you.

39:53

Thank you.

39:56

Councillor Hogan.

39:57

Uh thank you, President Hudson.

39:58

I have items 35 through 40.

40:00

35 is a special permit.

40:02

Uh is that is that okay, one of the counselors from the east side there.

40:05

Councillor Williams, Councilor Manto.

40:08

Are you all set with that?

40:09

Okay.

40:10

Okay.

40:11

36 and 37 considers a problem property on Gedda Street.

40:17

Um you know, I'd like to ask uh maybe corporation counsel Joe.

40:24

Um a lot of times when we have these uh these public meetings at 53.

40:30

It seems like um hardly anybody shows up, but we're paying uh department heads sometimes to be I imagine overtime and all that.

40:40

I rather had these earlier in the day to assure ourselves of like department heads being there.

40:50

Yes, uh Joe Barry, first assistant corporation counsel.

40:54

I think the purpose of the this type of meeting is to allow public um comment because of the nature of the um action being taken.

41:04

So if we do it during regular business hours, the concern is the regular a lot of people won't be able to attend.

41:12

I I would agree if people did attend these meetings at night, but it doesn't seem like to anybody does, except the uh person trying to maintain their permit.

41:23

Counselor or get a permit.

41:25

So I mean I'm just throwing it out there.

41:28

This not neither of these a lot of these businesses, they don't punch a clack.

41:33

I mean they're like owner operated type.

41:35

So counselor sometimes as neighborhood input exactly.

41:39

Um usually it comes in email or a letter, usually, it seems like so.

41:45

I just wear I just know that garnering nine counselors down here for some of these meetings sometimes is gonna be difficult in the future.

41:53

We get I get I get that and everything is almost like the budget meeting.

41:56

Folks don't show up, you know.

41:58

Um, but we I Joe said we have it at that time for the public.

42:02

Uh if we had it during a day uh with our regular meeting, we would go into uh, you know, we will break and go into the public hearing and then come back to our retro meeting or whatever.

42:15

So and for legal reasons to maximize public input, yeah.

42:19

Even though unfortunately people aren't showing up, we're still giving them the opportunity, which is important in case somebody was to challenge it.

42:27

Okay.

42:28

Okay, so uh 36 and 30.

42:30

Thank you.

42:30

Uh thank you, Joe.

42:31

36 and 37 are already.

42:35

Uh 38.

42:36

Uh, we're gonna be naming a road after President Hudson.

42:40

All right, totally in favor of that.

42:42

And uh Officer Jensen.

42:45

And then 39 and 37 uh or 39 and 40.

42:49

Uh, you're okay with this, Councilor.

42:51

I am very much.

42:52

I spoke at the planning commission.

42:54

I want to thank uh and they're still going ahead with it.

42:56

That's good.

42:56

Yeah, I want to after you spoke.

42:58

Yes.

42:58

Oh, good.

42:59

And I want to thank the Steigwall family who are here from the Cathedral Candle uh factory.

43:05

This is gonna be a major improvement of employment and improvement in our uh common council district.

43:12

So I will ask my colleagues uh to support us.

43:15

Thank you.

43:16

Yeah, can I speak on that one, please?

43:18

Because the stager laws have been a very, very integral part in this community, and for years I've had the pleasure of knowing them and working with them, and you're just good partners, and um in favor as well.

43:33

And I can echo those sentiments exactly.

43:36

Thank you very much for investing in our community, especially on the north side.

43:40

So that's all I got.

43:41

Thank you, President Hudson.

43:43

You did you do 40?

43:44

Yes, 140.

43:47

Oh, okay.

43:48

Counselor Navi gave me permission to go ahead and counselor Williams.

43:54

Thank you, Madam President.

43:55

I've got items 41 through 48.

43:58

We'll continue to hold 41.

44:01

Um, and Commissioner.

44:03

42.

44:05

This is the item that you and I spoke about last week.

44:07

Yep.

44:08

Yeah.

44:08

Uh good afternoon, common counselors.

44:10

Uh Mike and Azera, Commissioner of Finance.

44:12

Um, so 42 is we're looking to um amends the scope of services with a fuss contract that is an existing contract.

44:20

Um really just allowing us to um you know expand their services when it comes to if we're uh you know determining financial irregularities with a vendor or uh you know something of that sort.

44:32

So um, you know, they have a certified fraud examiner, they have numerous ones that work for them, so really looking to uh be able to engage that specialty within their practice.

44:42

Um this is the uh second, this is the final year of the three-year contract, um, and then FUST is is located um over on Warren Street, so it's just a couple blocks away.

44:53

Any questions?

44:54

Um, no change in no no no change in the dollar amount, just amending to include the scope of services.

45:02

Okay, thank you, Chris.

45:03

Thank you.

45:04

Uh 43 requesting an easement uh across our own property at 1171 West Fayette to um bury a conduit that's going to provide internet redundancy for the public safety headquarters.

45:23

Thank you.

45:24

Thanks all.

45:32

Good afternoon, counselors.

45:33

Dave Perak, Director of IT.

45:35

Um item number 44.

45:39

Uh we're asking for your permission to enter an agreement with Spectrum for fiber connection at the aforementioned 1153 Fayette Street.

45:49

What what do they currently pay over there now?

45:53

Well, there's we don't have an internet connection there now because the building is being gutted.

45:58

Um downtown at PSB, they have 53.

46:05

Yeah, they have spectrum currently now.

46:08

They have two connections at PSP.

46:10

They have Crown Castle and Spectrum.

46:12

And our goal for this new building is to have multiple internet service providers and multiple locations they come in and a diversity of pass when they leave.

46:22

So what do you know what you pay off the top of your head for PST?

46:26

For we pay $1,400 a month for one provider.

46:32

And this is $1,800 for one.

46:35

Yeah.

46:36

That what the connection you pay is not it's a much slower connection they currently have at PSV.

46:42

It's eighteen hundred dollars a month for 10 for 10 gig.

46:45

They got up that DSL?

46:48

No, no, don't worry about it.

46:52

Can I repeat that?

46:52

No, no, don't worry about it.

46:54

Okay.

46:57

I'm sorry.

46:58

It's all good.

46:59

Okay, good.

46:59

Any questions?

47:00

Yeah, I have a question.

47:01

Uh um, are we are spectrum current with any of the fees that they pay back to us?

47:10

Like our is all of that current.

47:12

We're paying them this per month.

47:14

But this is what we pay them.

47:16

Are you asking in terms of like a um franchise fees?

47:20

Yeah, I don't I don't know the status of the franchise agreement or where that stands.

47:24

I think law would speak to that um and what they what they do in terms of in lieu of the franchise agreement.

47:31

Okay.

47:33

We'll we'll get that question by Monday.

47:36

If we tell your show.

47:41

Um Spectrum currently.

47:44

Joe Barry, first assistant.

47:45

Um 2023, we entered into a 10-year franchise agreement with Spectrum.

47:52

Uh they're supposed to be paying monthly on the franchise fee.

47:55

So I'll have to defer to the finance department if those payments are actually being made.

48:00

Okay.

48:01

All right, thank you.

48:05

Can you uh verify the address?

48:07

We see two addresses.

48:08

I intend to ask you about that earlier.

48:11

I asked one question, but I uh it went, you know, I forgot, basically.

48:15

Yeah, that I mean that that parcel where they're where the new PSB is gonna be, it's a large parcel and incorporates a corner.

48:22

Um so I'm not one at 1171.

48:27

Yeah, one pair of the case.

48:29

Because it's gonna run through that parcel to go to 1153, because I asked that question earlier.

48:35

So it's 1153 and 1172.

48:37

Yeah, 71.

48:39

71, I mean.

48:40

Yes.

48:41

Oh, I I see what it is.

48:42

So the Crown Castle, what he was here for comes over on the Magnolia Street side of the property.

48:49

The spectrum connection is coming over on uh Thayat Street.

48:57

And I'm still here.

48:58

I'm here for um items 45 and 46, please.

49:02

Uh this gives us the ability.

49:03

We have a uh number of internet connections we pay Northland communications for.

49:09

These are for both our parking garages and also for the parks uh main location on Spencer Street.

49:16

Um our goal is to have an RFP in place by the end of the year to replace that current award.

49:22

The existing award has expired, and we're asking for permission to continue to pay for those services while we wait for the new RFP to be awarded.

49:33

He said continue to pay for the services, but it says to pay outstanding invoices.

49:39

So we have outstanding invoices.

49:41

If if the RFP is expired, there's a gap in our ability to process those invoices.

49:48

We're asking for the permission to be able to pay those while we're waiting for the new RFP award.

50:04

They failed to bill us a few times in a previous fiscal year.

50:08

So we'd like the ability to pay those three invoices.

50:11

Your invoices run around $52, $50, $300 a month.

50:16

We have three invoices from the 2024 fiscal year that we're sitting on waiting for permission to pay.

50:22

We just we got those relatively recently.

50:26

We should sell commercials.

50:29

Watch the common council meetings.

50:31

We should give Murray's own.

50:33

Just a suggestion, Commissioner Finance.

50:37

Thank you, thank you, everybody.

50:39

Thank you.

50:39

Thank you.

50:42

And 48.

50:49

Good afternoon, Council Jen TIF Director of Strategic Initiatives.

50:59

This is one of our planned locations for our surge link expansion.

51:03

And so this is just a rooftop lease agreement for space on the rooftop of the Bernardine apartments, which is a Loreto property in the valley.

51:13

This is reimbursable by our grant with the state of New York.

51:18

So Jennifer, so with the provide, we've been on the rooftop for the wireless broadband.

51:25

How many people is that gonna serve from that area?

51:28

So the the way our network works is that there's not like uh there's not necessarily a direct one-for-one relationship to each of the wireless installations.

51:40

Um essentially meaning we've got um we will have 12 wireless installations when our expansion is completely done um throughout like the north side, you know, downtown the south side and the valley.

51:55

Um and those um those wireless installations essentially um can be shared by multiple clients.

52:03

So um essentially everyone's router in their home is looking for like the best available signal at any given time.

52:12

So um that said, again, as a reminder, the the network that we're building is essentially designed to serve as many as I think 70, 800 residents all together.

52:27

So we're trying to essentially create enough bandwidth to be able to serve, you know, uh a D a really large number of people, but this specific location, you know, it doesn't necessarily serve only a certain number of people, if that makes sense.

52:44

The because it's wireless.

52:46

Right, but I'm saying it's flexible.

52:48

Pick up a hundred people.

52:50

Exactly.

52:50

It'll pick up um we've got we'll have three installations in the valley area, and the valley I think has um oh, I forget our estimate.

53:03

I think 45 to 5,000 households in it.

53:08

Um and so those three installations are intended to like basically cover that entire area ultimately.

53:17

How many people do we have a part of the program right now?

53:19

The numbers?

53:20

Right now, um I'd have to look at the most recent numbers.

53:24

I think we are between 13 and 1400.

53:31

And what is the rate that they're paying right now?

53:34

I'm sorry, counsel, can you repeat that?

53:35

Sorry, my voice.

53:36

Yeah, what is the rate that you're paying right now?

53:39

So um for the subs the subscribers.

53:43

So again, we we're right now we really have just sort of two rates.

53:48

Um one is for uh lower income families that qualify for um a discounted rate, and that's fifteen dollars a month.

53:57

Um and then the other is for um folks that don't qualify for the discount, it's $3699.

54:05

So $37 a month.

54:09

What's the target number, John?

54:11

What was the target estimated number?

54:13

Hopefully that would be engaged.

54:15

When all is said and done.

54:17

Um, like I said, I think I I think it was about 7800 total.

54:23

That was um that was the number that we proposed to the state of New York when we said, you know, if you fund the expansion, we'll you know, we'll be able to serve that many people.

54:34

So at the rate we're going now, right?

54:37

When do you think we'll reach the 7800 capacity?

54:42

Um yeah, it's a great question.

54:44

So we are um about halfway done with our expansion right now.

54:52

We're in the process of installing a couple more pop sites.

54:57

That this would be obviously one of them that we want to install.

55:00

Um we should be fully um capable in terms of the the network being in place to serve more people um probably by the first quarter of next year.

55:12

And at that point, um, you know, our hope was that we would be able to onboard somewhere between 200 and 300 households a month.

55:20

That's kind of just like maximum market capacity for this kind of thing.

55:27

Um so we kind of have to wait and see a little bit when when we have the network like fully up and running.

55:35

Um we are getting a lot more interest now that we've you know, now that we've obviously started the expansion, the words getting out a lot more, which is helping um both in the pilot area and in the expansion areas.

55:46

So we are seeing a definite uptick.

55:49

Um it'll probably take us a couple more years to honestly get to the full maximum subscription rate.

55:57

How many do we have now?

55:58

Uh I think it's between 13 and 1400 as of today.

56:02

I need to double check the latest dashboard.

56:04

Jenna, are we logged in um for this price for how long are we locked in for this price?

56:11

Um, well, I mean, we're we're basically setting the price ourselves because again, the city owns the network, so we're kind of dictating um the the price that we want, and we've you know communicated to our vendor that our intent is to essentially keep that pricing um model in place into perpetuity.

56:34

Um the one thing we are exploring right now, which of course, you know, we would come back to council when we have more information on this.

56:41

We we are exploring potentially diversifying service on the network so that we have more tiers of service, kind of like what Spectrum and Verizon have, right?

56:51

So right now we just have a single high speed service, it's a hundred gigabyte up and download speeds, um, which is great high speed service, but um we purposely tried to keep it simple, so we don't have, for example, like a gigabyte plan, right?

57:06

And if families wanted that, we could offer that.

57:10

We would have to charge more for that, for example.

57:13

But from that perspective, then we could also really make more revenue to be able to sustain the program.

57:21

So we're kind of doing some analysis right now to see um what the market, you know, would support in that regard, um, to see if we might want to, for example, add small business service.

57:32

We don't really have a business plan associated with the network right now either.

57:36

We're only offering residential service, but we've gotten lots of interest from small businesses in the community who say, like, hey, we would like another option too.

57:44

Um, setting the income limits as well.

57:47

Is that yeah?

57:48

I mean, we we basically did it um essentially just to mirror what had been in place with the affordable connectivity program.

57:56

So um we just kind of used those previous federal standards, but we can, yeah, of course, we can change that if we wanted to, because it's really just a city program at this point.

58:08

So Jane, um with the fiber optics and the new the stuff that was entered into like under the ground and all right to make stuff weapon.

58:18

Are we using those same fiber optics that we own for our cameras and stuff?

58:23

So we would like to start doing that.

58:25

We we haven't started doing it yet.

58:26

Um we're actually working right now with SPD and digital services to kind of um start to plan out what that could look like.

58:35

Um that would be I think a really big opportunity for SPD.

58:40

It will likely save the city resources overall to leverage our network.

58:45

Um and our network, the way it's designed is um, you know, according to our technology experts, actually a bit more um secure from a data perspective than what we're kind of currently using for the mesh network for the cameras.

59:04

So I think there's there's a lot of interest in that.

59:06

We're probably gonna be ready to come to council for that in probably hopefully before the end of the calendar year, I'd say in December sometime.

59:15

So that's very close to to being sort of finalized.

59:20

Um, yeah, that's probably one of the best city use cases for the network, and it will save the city some money.

59:28

And we are um we are starting to have some conversations um mid mid-budget season um with other entities we just had the land bank, we'll be having um a few others.

59:41

So we will look to hold a committee meeting for some updates because uh everyone has questions.

59:47

Yeah, so um we'll hold a committee meeting to get those updates.

59:51

Okay, yeah, that's perfect.

59:52

Thank you all.

59:52

Does anyone have any other questions about the rooftop lease?

59:55

This particular item is we're good.

59:58

Um, thank you all.

1:00:00

Appreciate it.

1:00:01

Thank you.

1:00:02

Thank you, Madam President.

1:00:03

Thank you.

1:00:04

Councillor Jones Rouser.

1:00:06

Oh thank you, madam president.

1:00:08

I have items 49 through 52.

1:00:11

Um item 49 will continue to hold.

1:00:16

Uh item 50.

1:00:19

We were I needed to have some discussions about that.

1:00:22

We should be clear for Monday, probably though.

1:00:24

So possibility of a hold.

1:00:28

Um 51.

1:00:32

Sorry.

1:00:33

Uh Caitlin Hubbard neighborhood planner with MBD.

1:00:35

The 50 is just an amendment to an ordinance that was already so the property was already passed.

1:00:40

Um I needed to ask some questions about it.

1:00:42

And remember, I said I had to ask something the other day.

1:00:44

I couldn't remember what it was.

1:00:45

That it was this without it was the house at first, I think.

1:00:49

So it there was a structure on the property when it was first passed, but then there was so it was passed in April of 2024, and then in November of 2024, there was an emergency demo of the property.

1:01:00

So it's just updating it so that we can transfer it to say vacant land instead of structure.

1:01:05

Okay, I gotta go back.

1:01:06

Well, Monday should be fine though.

1:01:07

Okay, yeah.

1:01:08

And Joe, Joe, for 49, you said you would that there would be a draft provided to the council for their review as you guys get to the um yeah, the code's matter.

1:01:18

Yeah, we'll have that in the supplement.

1:01:19

Yeah, okay.

1:01:21

Thank you.

1:01:22

Thank you.

1:01:23

51.

1:01:25

Good afternoon, counselors.

1:01:26

Comone Jordan, director of housing and neighborhood planning.

1:01:29

So item 51 is a request for the city to extend existing contracts with 12 qualified contractors to support the emergency repair program, and additionally add one more contractor to that list.

1:01:43

Anyone have questions?

1:01:45

Yeah, who's the contractor?

1:01:46

And J Jones Plumbing?

1:01:48

J Jones.

1:01:48

Okay.

1:01:51

Awesome.

1:01:52

Thank you, Counselors.

1:01:53

Um 52.

1:01:58

Good afternoon, Sheryl Pace, assistant director of the division of equity compliance and social impact.

1:02:06

Uh this item is just to uh replace me as the uh compliance officer for our New York State DOT compliance reporting and the system EBO.

1:02:18

Any questions?

1:02:20

Thank you.

1:02:20

Thank you.

1:02:22

That is all.

1:02:25

Thank you.

1:02:27

I need a motion to adjourn.

1:02:30

Second.

1:02:30

Second.

1:02:31

All in favor.

1:02:32

Wait.

1:02:33

I thought you said that exactly.

1:02:35

Oh no, not today.

1:02:38

And Council.

1:02:40

Monday they're gonna be Helen.

1:02:42

Monday they're gonna be a uh meeting on C V

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Summary of Proceedings

Syracuse Common Council Meeting - November 5, 2025

The Syracuse Common Council held a regular session on November 5, 2025, under the leadership of Council President Helen Hudson. The meeting covered a wide range of routine approvals, contract amendments, and policy discussions, including public safety upgrades, infrastructure maintenance, and broadband expansion. The city clerk confirmed the meeting was properly noticed and began shortly after 4:49 PM ET.

Consent Calendar

  • No separate consent calendar was identified; however, numerous items were passed without debate or objection. These included routine contract extensions, name corrections, and approval of minor expenditures.

Discussion Items

  • Items 10–13 (Parks): Commissioner Burr presented agreements: with Terry Horse for landscape architect services (not to exceed $125,000); with Enest Tech for e-gaming software ($4,800 for one year); acceptance of a $200 donation from Near West Side Resident Padrisco for memorial plaques at Leavenworth and Burnett Parks (with spelling correction: 'Rocky' with a Y); and with Route 80 Stables for horse-drawn carriage services ($5,200 for holidays at Burnett Park).
  • Item 14 (Withdrawn): Councilman Lich withdrew the item to allow further discussion.
  • Item 15 (Exalt Program): Janet Burke, Director of Research, described a $1.5 million DCJS grant to replicate the Exalt program from NYC. A committee meeting was scheduled for the next day to answer questions.
  • Item 16 (Syracuse 8 Street Designation): Councilman Lich proposed naming a street after the Syracuse 8, athletes who protested treatment and equity issues in the 1970s. The dedication is set for November 28th at Waverly and Walnut. Several councilors expressed strong support, noting the historical significance.
  • Items 17–21 (Public Safety):
    • Item 17: First Deputy Chief Richard requested approval for a U.S. Department of Justice grant up to $141,000 (with $70,000 local match) to purchase 50 body-worn cameras for the SWAT team. Discussion included a missing 'Signal Sidearm' trigger mechanism (to activate cameras when a weapon is drawn); the IT sergeant confirmed it was never ordered. Council directed staff to trace the prior item.
    • Items 18–19: Fire Chief Michael Mons requested funding for fire station maintenance and rehabilitation, focusing on oil/water separators, exhaust removal, and general repairs at stations 2, 5, and 9 (all over 50 years old). He noted ongoing capital planning and eventual need for new stations. Councilor Hogan highlighted station 2's condition and potential expansion.
    • Items 20–21: $31,000 for communications equipment, including portable radios and mobile data terminals.
  • Item 22 (Name Correction): Director Rick Alsever corrected a vendor name to align with the parent company, necessary for payment.
  • Items 23–24 (Parking Lot Amendment): Commissioner OJ (Assessment) proposed amending earlier bonding to allow construction of a parking lot adjacent to the new Public Safety Building (1153 West Fayette). Originally intended as a shared municipal lot, it will now be exclusively for police and fire use. Public parking is available on-site (14 spaces) and on-street. Councilor Williams expressed concern about public parking, but staff noted improvements over current conditions.
  • Items 25–27 (DPW):
    • 25: Amendment to Collier Engineering contract for traffic signal interconnect system due to construction delays.
    • 26: New contract with Waste Tech (Rubicon route) for snow plow routing technology. Councilor questioned impact detection; staff referred to Samsara GPS systems.
    • 27: Amendment to add 10 tablets for sanitation routing.
  • Items 28–34 (Fuel, Salt, Waiver):
    • Fuel contracts with Andrew County, school district, and Syracuse Housing.
    • Salt contracts with Upstate Central and Syracuse Housing Authority.
    • A waiver for a fabric building on concrete blocks for recycling/trash cart storage at Pete Street location.
  • Items 35–40 (Land Use):
    • 35: Special permit (no details).
    • 36–37: Problem property on Geddes Street; public hearing scheduled for evening to maximize input, though Councilor Hogan noted low attendance.
    • 38: Street naming after President Hudson (jocular remark, but no formal action).
    • 39–40: Approval for Cathedral Candle factory expansion (Stiegelwall family) – strongly supported by Councilors Hogan and others.
  • Items 41–48 (Finance, IT, Broadband):
    • 41: Held.
    • 42: Amendment to FUST contract to include fraud examination services (no cost change).
    • 43: Easement to bury conduit for internet redundancy at Public Safety Building.
    • 44: Agreement with Spectrum for fiber connection at 1153 Fayette ($1,800/month for 10 gig). Discussion included franchise fee status; Corporation Counsel noted a 10-year franchise agreement signed in 2023.
    • 45–46: Payment of outstanding invoices to Northland Communications (three invoices from FY2024, ~$50,300 total) pending new RFP.
    • 48: Rooftop lease agreement with Loretto for Surge Link broadband expansion at Bernardine Apartments in the Valley. Director Jen TIF reported the network currently serves 1,300–1,400 subscribers, aiming for 7,800 total. Pricing is $15/month (low-income) and $37/month (standard). The city is exploring tiered service and small business options. Staff will hold a committee meeting for updates.
  • Items 49–52 (Housing & Compliance):
    • 49: Held; council expects draft code provisions.
    • 50: Amendment to transfer a property (vacant after emergency demo) – held for further review.
    • 51: Extension of contracts with 12 qualified contractors for emergency repair program, plus addition of J Jones Plumbing.
    • 52: Replacement of compliance officer for NYS DOT reporting (Sheryl Pace stepping aside).

Key Outcomes

  • All items except those noted as held (14, 41, 49, 50) were moved forward for final approval at the next meeting (scheduled for Monday, November 7, 2025, at 1:30 PM).
  • A committee meeting was scheduled for November 6, 2025, at 1:30 PM to discuss the Exalt program.
  • Staff will investigate the 'Signal Sidearm' trigger mechanism for body cameras.
  • The DPW will explore impact detection on snow plow vehicles.
  • A committee meeting will be held to update council on Surge Link broadband progress and potential cost savings for city camera systems.
  • The meeting adjourned after unanimous approval of the motion.

Meeting Transcript

This is a local division for the uh city clerk. I I don't I don't know do law have any. It's Joe Berry. We're all set. We should be all set. Yeah, we're set to go. We talked all about it, yeah. All right, we're good to go. Alrighty. Counselor Caldwell. Thank you, Madam President. Blessings to all today. Okay, cool. Commissioner Burr, we have items 10 to 13. Good afternoon. Say Shabur Commissioner Parks. I have 10, 11, 12, and 13. So 10 is an amendment to the ordinance. Um with an agreement with Terry Horse, our landscape architect, um, for general services, um not to exceed 125,000. Okay. Number 11 is with um and uh um I'm probably gonna mess this up. Enest Tech, it's a software corp for software for e-gaming for Wilson and um Southwest Community Center. It's a one-year period total not to exceed 4800. 12. 12 is the acceptance um from the near West Side Resident Padrisco. This is our amendment because a name was spelled wrong. It's Rocky with a Y, not an EY, and um the location. So one plaque in Leavenworth, one in Burnett Park. Um, it's a donation in the amount of two hundred dollars for the purchase of those um two memorial plaques, and parks will install them. Item 13. And then 13 is with um Route 80. It's the stables for our horse um drawn carriages for not to cede 5200 for the holidays um at Burnett Park. I think we're all sad. Anybody have any questions? Thank you, Madam President. Thank you. Thank you. Councilman Lich. Thank you, Madam President. I have item fourteen to twenty-one. Um wondering if Chief Shaw is in. Yeah. Yeah, we're close. We're close. You close? So you want me to keep it on for another session? If you don't mind. Okay. Okay. I just don't want to keep it on here.

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