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Syracuse Common Council Meeting - December 3, 2025

Public MeetingsWednesday, December 3, 2025
BodySyracuse, New York
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DateWednesday, December 3, 2025
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5:51

On Monday, so I'm gonna put that ready with a question mark.

5:54

Councilor Pennyagua.

5:58

Where are you?

5:59

Oh, um this is item nine, and we're gonna be holding it.

6:03

Council Caldwell.

6:04

Thank you, Madam President.

6:05

I have item ten.

6:07

Uh Commissioner Bird is here.

6:08

This is just uh annual Ray?

6:15

Sorry.

6:16

Yeah, this is just yep, annual.

6:18

Oh no, it's good.

6:19

You or Greg.

6:20

I'll do one.

6:20

Okay, yeah, it's just angel.

6:22

Say Shabur Commissioner Parks.

6:24

This is a yes annual agreement with the county to reimburse a portion of the payments made in association with the city's adopt to adopt the tick and dare management program.

6:33

The amount not succeeded and this is for twenty four twenty-five program.

6:38

Um fifty-nine thousand dollars fifty-nine thousand four hundred.

6:42

Excuse me, I can't read today.

6:44

We got you.

6:44

Fifty nine thousand forty-six dollars.

6:46

We got you.

6:49

Thank you.

6:49

Yeah, thank you, madam president.

6:51

Councilmember Juck.

6:53

Thank you, Madam President.

6:55

I have item thirteen no eleven to thirteen.

7:01

Uh whose from the department.

7:05

Are you are you chief?

7:06

Right.

7:08

Oh, I can speak to number eleven.

7:10

So we're uh over at our new place eleven fifty-three, we're looking to install five additional axon interview cameras in our new interview rooms.

7:19

We have five that are currently at the PSB that we'll move over.

7:22

But there's five additional rooms.

7:25

Excuse me, that we'll be looking to uh to install.

7:29

Axon currently we want to stay with Axon because it will integrate the whole system.

7:34

But they're not public cameras, they're interior cameras for um questioning, that sort of thing.

7:40

W where i i is it because there's more rooms?

7:43

Yes.

7:44

Oh, okay.

7:44

There's additional interview rooms.

7:46

Um and we'd like to get the that covered with uh the cameras.

7:50

Okay.

7:50

And the ability to record.

7:52

All right.

7:56

Thank you.

8:02

Commissioner, are you taking item twelve?

8:06

Michael got it.

8:07

Okay.

8:29

West Fayette Street.

8:30

So this was not in the original RF fee, right?

8:33

Uh so the those two items, audio visual and appliances were in the RFP, but the responses that we received were inadequate or not at all, basically.

8:44

So okay.

8:45

We've asked Hubert Brewer to provide those instead.

8:49

So what does this do to the original proposed amount by the by the vendor?

8:56

This is all within the anticipated budget.

8:58

We were not asking for any extra money.

9:00

So the two million dollars that we discussed previously, which was one million dollars and one million dollars, that falls within this.

9:11

Yeah, so yeah.

9:12

So Michael, you see we uh amend in that ordinance, right?

9:15

Just adding a vendor.

9:23

Um the due purchases and you know, and so he's adding uh that particular vendor, and so they can just go ahead on and spit up that.

9:32

Um thank you.

9:36

Any questions?

9:38

All right, thank you.

9:38

Thank you, Counselors.

9:43

Chief Mine, you gonna do this yourself.

9:48

Yes, hello, counselors.

9:50

Um item thirteen uh is for uh us to enter an agreement with C N Y EMS.

9:56

Um all sworn firefighters need to maintain their EMS uh certifications underneath the New York State Department of Health.

10:02

C NY EMS is the regional recertification program um that's underneath the Department of Health, and they use EMS One Academy to certify all of our EMS uh training.

10:13

So uh we need this to just make sure our firefighters are trained in all the certifications they need to provide when they're out responding.

10:21

So so with this how many how many will this cover, Chief?

10:25

11 how many eleven thousand dollars for this program for the year.

10:29

Okay.

10:30

And how do you know how many uh candidate this will cover?

10:34

Um it'll our whole fire department.

10:37

We have our whole department, our EMTs or paramedics.

10:40

Uh we have to train them underneath New York State Department of Health regulations, and the platform that the Department of Health recommends that we use is uh the CNY EMS, so that's why we're coming to get permission to uh enter an agreement to have this program.

10:55

Without that, we can't recertify our firefighters.

10:58

And I just just to go back.

10:59

I I think AMR had said that they were gonna do some too, right?

11:05

From our last conversation with AMR.

11:08

Um, we kind of do certain trainings together, but this is to make sure that we have our EMS division that um re-certifies all of our what I'm asking, Chief is AMR had specifically said that they were gonna put some dollars toward training EMS individuals in the the last conversation.

11:28

And that's am I wrong about that?

11:30

Uh this is not regarding this item on the legislative item.

11:34

Um I gotta clarify specifically what you're talking about.

11:38

I think they said they were gonna like put some uh civilians or uh other citizens in the city um through their EMT program to become EMTs.

11:48

This program we have we are all of our firefighters are trained to a New York State certification to when somebody's having difficulty breathing, if somebody's having an anxiety attack, any medical call that's not fire related, we have to go treat the patient.

12:02

Our certification allows us to treat the patient to recertify every year to keep our certification.

12:07

We need this program that I'm presenting today on the legislative agenda to make sure we have that mechanism to keep our re our certifications.

12:16

Uh what you're describing is for civilians who aren't EMT to become EMTs through when they give a class, they're gonna do it through their.

12:24

This is for our um our current sworn personnel.

12:27

How many do we put through last year?

12:30

As far as our through the EMS, yes.

12:33

So we have three uh hundred and eighty firefighters.

12:35

Um, and then every it's uh the cadence of when the recertification happens is staggered.

12:41

So there's like probably a hundred one year, a hundred the next year, so there's like a rotation, so depends on when you get certified.

12:48

So we're getting ready to hire a class in January.

12:50

They're gonna get some of them aren't EMTs, they're gonna become EMTs in January.

12:55

Their certification lasts, say three years, but in between there, they gotta keep taking training to make sure they uphold their certification, and then when that certification comes to an end, um, or in the middle of it to to stay um to stay on top of their certification.

13:11

We need this program.

13:12

That's what we do our training through.

13:14

Any other questions?

13:17

Thank you, Chief.

13:17

All right, thank you.

13:19

Thank you.

13:20

Counselor Gathers.

13:21

Thank you, Madam President.

13:22

I have items 14 through 16 of uh and for that to come up for 14 15.

13:29

Good afternoon.

13:31

Uh Ann Ford, first deputy commissioner of Syracuse DPW.

13:35

Do you want me to proceed with 14?

13:37

Uh yes, please.

13:39

So Okra is uh we have an annual agreement with Okra, that's where we take our trash.

13:44

And this year there is an increase in tipping fee.

13:47

It's going to be 11 dollars.

13:48

It's going up six six dollars.

13:51

The recycling tipping fee is staying the same.

13:56

Any questions from the council?

13:58

Okay, how many tons do we do per year?

14:00

Ballpark.

14:02

It's around 33 to 35,000 of trash.

14:14

Any other questions?

14:15

Okay, every 15.

14:16

Thank you.

14:17

All right, 15.

14:19

So we were up here not so long ago um to talk about this.

14:23

This is the company that we use for the snowplower outing and the trash routing.

14:28

Uh they also um redid our when we redid our trash days.

14:33

Uh they helped us with that.

14:34

So they have a program uh that we want to use.

14:37

We're currently using a bulky scheduler.

14:40

This is your four bulk pickups per year that you get.

14:43

We're using something that's behind the scenes that City Line has to enter, so that means every person who wants to schedule a bulk pickup has to call City Line.

14:51

They have a plat a platform that they can provide us that will be more customer friendly.

14:57

So resident facing on the website.

15:00

You can go in any time of day.

15:01

Don't have to sit and call City Line between nine and five and schedule that bulky request, so that mattress, that dresser.

15:10

And it's also going to tell you you're gonna be able to enter your address, find out your trash day, um, your recycling day, your yard waste day, your construction every day, like every city service that applies to you via me at CPW, right?

15:26

Would be conveyed to you in an easy-to-find location on the website.

15:29

So you don't have to call City Line about a holiday, right?

15:32

Am I on delay today?

15:34

Am I not?

15:35

You can find it all there a little bit easier than it is right now.

15:39

So for those that aren't really tech savvy, they're still have to call City Line anyways, right?

15:43

Yes, yes.

15:44

I don't think it would eliminate you know all the calls to City Align at all.

15:48

And we love City Line and we love you know, the interactions they have regulars that call them all the time, so they're still gonna have that.

15:54

But I think those of us that are you know tech savvy and want to do this, you know, on Saturday when I cleaned out the garage, put in my request for Wednesday and not have to ri try to remember on Monday to call.

16:06

I think that's gonna be a lot easier.

16:08

Is this not a feature that City Line could do at all, you know?

16:11

Right.

16:12

Building the platform that keeps track of that and then ties into our existing system, because we have every address scheduled onto the routes, and so this swings that information right over to the driver so that he can see, you know, 129 Smith Street scheduled a bulk pickup.

16:35

Well, how does it happen now if a person were to call in a bulk pick uh box set out and how do how does that get related to the driver for them to know?

16:42

What's that?

16:43

How do we do it now?

16:44

We have before we have the technology here, how does it happen?

16:47

So right now it's not customer facing, it's just behind the scenes for City Line, and they have to enter each one in themselves.

16:55

And it actually broke today, so they're having to just um email the sanitation crew about them right now because the system didn't work today.

17:06

So this is just a more reliable system, more user-friendly, and more user-friendly for City Line too.

17:13

So this is just for bulk, right?

17:15

This is yes, for just for the bulk pickups, because we you're only allowed four per year according to the ordinance, and so we need to keep track of that.

17:23

So and you have to tell us in advance so that we make sure it gets on the list.

17:27

And so, but the conveyance of like the information of what your trash day is, that's not just for bulk.

17:33

So so a person that let's say I call today, right?

17:36

So I give you my address.

17:38

So there's other people calling.

17:39

Do you make our route or how does it work?

17:42

It it's twofold.

17:43

So if we have enough staffing, we're gonna send a separate truck and he'll make a route of just bulk.

17:48

If there's not enough staffing, like we're down trucks or down people, we can just add it to the existing route and he'll see it come up on his computer screen.

17:55

Like you need to stop at this house.

17:57

There's a um well, I think it's called an exemption when you were here.

18:02

It'll like alert them right on their tablet.

18:05

Hey, there's a bulk stop here.

18:07

Okay.

18:10

Any other questions?

18:12

All right, before we I cut you loose here.

18:14

Um, it's got one question, uh, not to put you in a hot seat, but pertaining to is it about snow?

18:20

Um, yeah, it is about snow.

18:23

Um, we've got a lot of calls um in the council office and on our on our cell phones as well in regards to some of the side streets and things like that, you know, people complaining about them not being plowed and X, Y, and Z.

18:35

Um what would you say would be the best response for us to give those constituents uh too?

18:40

I mean, I think it's a culmination of factors, you know.

18:42

Every storm is different, every weather condition is different, whether it starts with the rain or ends with rain, it's you know, but this was it hit at the wrong time of the day and it continued the whole day, like a light.

18:56

And so when we would get done doing those routes, we had to go back and do them again.

19:01

We couldn't pull off the mains because we had to go do them again before we could get to the sides.

19:07

So it's a culmination, I think.

19:08

Also, new drivers, you know, for some of these people, um, they hadn't been in a plow until they started working for us.

19:14

So they're gonna move a little slower than a seasoned driver, and I would want them to be safe.

19:19

So I think there's always room for improvement, and we'll get there.

19:23

How many trucks do we have actually uh plowing?

19:25

What's that?

19:26

How many trucks do we have plowing right now?

19:28

Oh gosh.

19:28

Uh today I couldn't tell you uh uh I don't know how many trucks are up as of right now.

19:33

I know six to eight did go down.

19:35

I did confirm that with Jeremy.

19:36

Every storm things break and go down.

19:39

Um so then we have to work on fixing them all before the next storm.

19:43

Yeah, we have two, and we have two new ones coming, right?

19:47

There's there's always there always is some in the works.

19:51

So we'll have uh but some are two months away and some might be a year away and because it takes so long.

19:57

I would have to confirm that.

20:00

Well, sure.

20:01

And when there's a question because I know that we ended up getting like 10, if I'm not mistaken, new trucks.

20:08

Yeah, uh like six years ago and now I think it was a it was a while ago.

20:12

What's that?

20:13

It's been that long.

20:14

I think it has been.

20:15

I think it was one of our big was it?

20:18

I hear someone laughing.

20:19

Okay, because I know that we had gotten the newer trucks, and they were under how long were they under warranty?

20:27

How long were they what?

20:28

Under warranty.

20:29

Oh gosh, I'm I'm not sure how long they're under warranty for.

20:33

I I should have brought Jeff Fergolo with me to uh answer these questions.

20:37

But we are I mean, you all know Richard Avesti, he retired, but he he transformed you know our fleet and got us in a much better place.

20:46

So you're gonna see us buying new plows every year to keep that fleet maintained.

20:51

But they're still gonna break.

20:53

Then my my last heavy question would be just a priority for snow route options.

20:58

So we have emergency snow routes first.

21:01

And then where do we go from there as far as how do we neighborhoods are are the last, right?

21:06

You want your emergency snow routes or those hospital routes, those hills, those dangerous roads are always going to be your priority.

21:12

And when it's actively snowing, we typically have to stay on them because by the time you get done, you have to do it again.

21:19

And it's on repeat.

21:20

So I I'm on a dead-end street.

21:23

Um I typically get hit last unless they choose to like use my street as a turnaround or something.

21:29

Um but if you're on a safe flat street in a neighborhood, typically you're going to be last because you don't have a hill, right?

21:37

And but we do our best to get there.

21:40

And if we are doing okay on the mains and we think we can poly couple people off and put them in the neighborhoods, we do, but every single storm is different.

21:50

Did want to thank you because you have responded, man.

21:53

I'm much appreciated a constituent on Wadsworth Street, about the sidewalk, and then I had a call from German on Marsha Street.

22:02

Was he side of that end?

22:04

And I'm glad you do have uh your smaller plows, your smaller pickup trucks that can do the side streets as well.

22:11

So and and I've been, you know, I think we we've been really utilizing even the pickup trucks, and they're not on the GPS, right?

22:19

The smaller pickup trucks, but such as with sanitation, I'm always worried that they're going out on unplowed streets at six in the morning.

22:28

And so we utilize other departments to help make sure sanitation is safe too, so that they can pick up the trash.

22:35

Well, we appreciate all the time because it's not easy, it's hard.

22:38

Some one or two people call and sit.

22:40

Yeah, because I got called like late last night about their neighborhood.

22:44

And I said, Well, wait till the morning.

22:46

Yeah, my street did get plowed till late too.

22:48

So that's fine.

22:49

Yeah, we there's always a catch-up period.

22:51

Yeah, all right, thank you.

22:52

Thank you.

22:53

All right.

22:54

Um, if there's no further questions on 15.

22:56

Do you have 16 as well?

22:57

Is it engineering?

22:58

I think that's Mary.

23:02

Was it assessment?

23:06

Mr.

23:06

Conizarro.

23:09

Afternoon again.

23:10

Counselors, Michael Lehman, Deputy Commissioner of the Assessment Department.

23:13

Um item 16 is the city's requesting to enter into a lease agreement with New York Susquehana, Susquehanna, and Western Railroad uh for portions of the land located um at 115 and 116 to 18.

23:27

Um South Gettis Street.

23:29

This is just north of West Fat Street.

23:31

Uh will be contemplated for parking or to support the 1153 relocation.

23:36

Uh it's a one-year lease with renewals for only one dollar.

23:41

Can't beat a dollar, right?

23:43

I don't think so.

23:45

And I'm glad that you did that because I had asked that question previously, and I was told it belonged to the railroad.

23:51

So I'm glad that we got it because that way there's some parking.

23:55

Yes.

23:56

So yeah.

23:57

So yeah.

24:00

Any other questions?

24:00

I'm sorry.

24:04

Thanks very much.

24:05

Councillor Paniagua.

24:07

Good afternoon, everybody.

24:08

I have item number 17.

24:11

Thank you, Richard.

24:13

Good afternoon, Council.

24:14

Rick Elsey for Director of Human Resources.

24:16

Um, item 17 is to enter in an agreement with um in biodin to bring a mobile slip simulator to DPW.

24:24

Um, and that'll train about 250 people at DPW parks water.

24:29

Um, and it's in response to our number one leader in workers' comp right now, which is slips, trips, and falls.

24:35

So this simulator simulator they bring in and we simulate walking in slippery conditioning conditions, stepping over curves, trip hazards, things like that.

24:43

Um it's all safe and secure.

24:44

People are harnessed in when they're doing the simulator, but um it brings awareness to our highest indicator.

24:49

That's um, it's in five years is about two and change million dollars in cost towards us.

24:56

So um this is the first time we do this.

24:58

This is the first time.

25:00

I see that these expires in in June, so it's only for six months.

25:04

Well, so it'll be a series of, I think right now we're looking at eight different eight different trainings over a series of about two weeks um that they'll be here doing that training for us, but we we need to conclude it before the end of the fiscal year.

25:16

Okay.

25:17

Are there any other questions?

25:19

I I just want to commend you for doing this.

25:21

This is uh obviously, you know, this is something that we have to focus on the health and safety of our employees, you know.

25:27

And I'm glad you mentioned those figures too.

25:29

I appreciate that good move.

25:30

Shout out to our safety team who's you know making sure our people go home in the same condition they came in.

25:35

So thank you.

25:36

Thank you.

25:38

What's that?

25:39

Counselor Hogan.

25:40

Uh thanks, President Hudson.

25:41

I have items 18 through 25, 18.

25:45

Uh, we'll have a public meeting on that on Friday at 10 o'clock.

25:49

And I imagine everybody will it's interesting.

25:52

We'll be there.

25:53

Uh 19 and 20.

25:55

Um Jake, you're taking that.

26:04

Good afternoon, council.

26:05

Jake Dish, deputy commissioner of code enforcement and zoning.

26:08

Uh item number 19 is a zone change uh for a property located at 100 Elizabeth.

26:16

Um basically there was a really tiny lot and a larger corner lot.

26:21

We're split we're combining them and then splitting them in half to create two buildable lots so we can hopefully get two houses on there.

26:29

Any questions?

26:31

20, Jake.

26:33

Uh item number 20.

26:35

The best way to think of this is like a puzzle piece just moving.

26:39

So the Anglers Association down next to Webster's Pond and the residential house are kind of like land swapping, and we're we're shifting like a puzzle piece.

26:51

So uh the Anglers Association will gain kind of street frontage on Valley Drive, and the backyard of the residential house will run front yard to backyard instead of like right to left where they have frontage on the anglers association side.

27:10

Um it's really I wish I had a visual.

27:13

It's in uh it was in our resolution from planning commission.

27:17

It really the visual shows I can email it to you, but that's basically what's happening is we're kind of shifting their they're splitting the land and shifting who owns what part.

27:27

That's it.

27:28

This is a request from the Angular Association.

27:30

Yeah, yeah.

27:31

So that's at the northern partner.

27:35

It's on the north under the pond.

27:37

Huh?

27:38

It's it's between the pond and the house uh north of the park.

27:42

Okay, okay, right there.

27:43

Yeah, as you enter.

27:45

Yeah.

27:46

Okay.

27:47

Yeah, right now the house actually owns right up to that.

27:51

And what what they're gonna do is try kind of transfer that to the anglers so they have the whole piece running from Valley Drive facing west up, and then the house would have a traditional if you're facing it from Valley Drive, the house property will run from the street all the way back.

28:08

It won't kind of a butt, it won't abut that side anymore.

28:11

I'll I'll send the visual because the puzzle piece to kind of show how it changes.

28:15

It's basically just shifting and turning the property lines.

28:18

Uh and it makes sense.

28:20

Okay.

28:21

Okay, council machine.

28:22

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

28:23

You have to try to imagine it by the uh barn, you know, behind the barn.

28:28

I'll probably be I can probably text you a visual of it before I leave the room.

28:32

I remember I actually Chad and I having conversation years back and how they want to be widening in the back.

28:40

Yeah.

28:41

Councilman Jok is a noted angler as well.

28:46

Yeah, we got to take care of Chad, right?

28:47

Yeah, so yeah, take it.

28:50

Thank you.

28:50

Well, by the way, uh Jake, thank you and Matthew for the uh the property on South Salina.

28:57

And they were very relief with with oh yeah.

29:00

Thank you.

29:01

We're glad to see that he's uh invested in the you know, making the property um look good and do the right thing.

29:08

So thank you.

29:10

Thank you.

29:13

Hi, Owen.

29:14

No, I think 21.

29:16

Good afternoon, Counselor Zullenkurney, uh division of planning and sustainability.

29:20

Number 21 is correcting uh an earlier ordinance from this year, amending the ordinance.

29:26

Uh we have a environmental monitoring well in Erie Boulevard, which is New York State uh DOT's right-of-way.

29:34

It's their property.

29:35

We have to pay an annual fee for that.

29:37

Um we are uh the request before you today is increasing that the original um amount was a hundred dollars.

29:45

We didn't include something that they included, and it's closer to 300,000 uh uh annually, and we're before you to make that uh 200 increase.

30:00

So the city of Syracuse has to please pay the state of New York for the use of the right-of-way.

30:02

That is correct.

30:03

Wow.

30:04

Well, we should probably note that for any future discussion.

30:07

Uh in this case, Erie Ballard, this is in the media and it's not something you would even see, but it is something that uh there is a formal payment to occupy that portion of their right-of-way.

30:19

Thanks.

30:19

Any other questions?

30:21

Okay.

30:21

Thanks, counselors.

30:23

Thank you, Owen.

30:24

Item 22.

30:26

Anybody handle that?

30:26

I can handle it.

30:29

Is anybody got any questions regarding moving the shacklack?

30:32

No, I just got abstain from that vote.

30:34

I'm on the board, so we're good.

30:35

Um you're on the museum.

30:40

And I probably have to say myself.

30:44

True.

30:45

So where is it?

30:46

Nice.

30:47

So it's it's moving over to the most.

30:50

Where the Nats used to play in the no, I know, but it was.

30:53

And I hear there's a picture of Dolph Shage showing Marty how to shoot a baskets.

30:58

I thought we were gonna move it.

30:59

He and I are holding up a 55 uh world check penance.

31:02

Okay, the wall of the track.

31:04

Okay, okay.

31:04

Let's we got it?

31:06

Commissioner, I think.

31:07

Yeah, Matt OJ formally requesting permanently has been talking about the property.

31:11

Okay, thank you.

31:13

Item 23.

31:16

You're still up here on are you still up there or is it mic?

31:19

Yeah, yeah.

31:20

Okay, counselors, Michael Laban, Deputy Commissioner with assessments.

31:30

Uh item 23, uh Cessman Bartman is requesting um to hire an appraiser.

31:35

Brockner Tillett Rossi Cahel Associates to appraise the property at 2176 Erie Boulevard and Beattie.

31:42

Uh this is the property that uh Deputy Commissioner Owen Kerny was just talking about.

31:46

Um we would like to know its value.

31:49

Uh we would like to issue another RFP for the property.

31:52

Uh it's in a great location geographically along the commercial corridor on Erie Boulevard, and there's a much higher and better use for it than sitting there vacant.

32:02

This is 23.

32:04

You're talking about 23, right?

32:05

Uh yeah, I'm talking about 20.

32:07

Yes, item 23.

32:08

Yeah.

32:09

Just request to hire an appraiser.

32:10

Yes, don't make it ahead.

32:14

Yeah.

32:14

Are we counselors?

32:17

Okay.

32:17

Item 24.

32:19

This is the Garzones.

32:21

Yes.

32:22

Didn't we already do we didn't do an assessment on this already?

32:26

Appraise on me.

32:28

For which 24.

32:30

24.

32:31

Uh we did.

32:33

Um so basically this was resubdivided earlier this year so that we could redraw the lines um to make it into a format that is eligible for redevelopment.

32:45

So now that that's been completed, we would like to have its value appraised so we can share that with folks who might be interested in developing it.

32:53

Um heard there's a question about the zoning.

32:55

It is R1.

32:56

So any development that would occur there would have to fall into those uh zoning criteria.

33:02

So when we talk about garzone, it also involved a flora shop.

33:05

It's all gonna be one land or no the floral shop uh separate is south of the paper street Princeton.

33:13

It doesn't go that far south.

33:14

Okay, so what are you gonna do with Paper Street with with the Garzoned mean uh flora shop?

33:20

Oh that's just that's just staying vacant.

33:22

Yeah, it's it's undevelopable if you're familiar with the the slope is there.

33:26

Yeah, the floral shop was already it was built almost diagonally.

33:30

It was an issue, yeah.

33:31

No doubt.

33:32

Okay, so it's just gonna be okay.

33:34

So the portion where the building is now and what just looks like a big field when you're driving down South Avenue, that portion there.

33:41

So we so just so I can understand it.

33:44

So we already had an appraisal.

33:48

I remember now.

33:50

That that tripped my memory too.

33:51

We got it surveyed.

33:52

Yeah.

33:52

In in preparation for the result, which is unusual for us.

33:56

It's close enough.

33:56

Yeah, I uh no, we've been okay.

33:58

So this one's been surveyed.

34:00

Surveyed, not appraised now, both.

34:02

All right, thank you.

34:04

Thank you.

34:04

Yes, we had to have it surveyed to show which portions would remain and which were for resubdivision.

34:11

What about the work that the county did with uh save the rain and watershed?

34:17

Uh it is that gonna be intact.

34:19

Uh how far do we go?

34:21

That is distinct.

34:22

So the two parcels immediately west of what we're asking to be appraised now, won't be touched.

34:28

Okay, and so it's not going beyond that, right?

34:30

It is not correct.

34:32

Okay, because I remember there was a lot of work that went into that.

34:35

No, and then anyone who's interested in redeveloping the property there will receive all the information that we have related to the properties adjacent.

34:43

Okay.

34:44

Okay.

34:45

Oh, good to go.

34:46

Counselor's okay.

34:47

Item 25.

34:48

Thanks very much.

34:49

Thank you.

34:50

Is uh, of course, installation item or a street sign in uh memory of uh Michael Jensen, an officer of SPD.

35:00

Uh this is a request from the Tipper A Hill Neighborhood Association, which is all we as we voted on last uh council session.

35:04

Uh um uh memorial uh park over near Passes Field too.

35:10

So I'll ask for everybody uh sign into this.

35:14

Everybody want to sign in.

35:15

Yes, yes, yes, yes, okay.

35:17

It's all I got, President Hudson.

35:18

All right, thank you.

35:19

And before I turn it over to Counselor Williams, I should have had uh Commissioner D Shaw before he went to the wall.

35:25

Jake question for you.

35:29

I should I'm sorry, I should have got you when you was up here.

35:35

What are we doing with the property on Solar Street where they've torn down the washing machine factory and they still have all the debris there?

35:45

Um that all should be cleaned out.

35:50

So I will find out uh why that's still there.

35:55

Okay, get back to you.

35:57

Okay, thank you.

35:58

Yep.

35:59

All righty.

36:00

Now, Counselor Williams.

36:01

All right, thank you, madam president.

36:02

Before I begin, I'd just like to give a shout out to our crew here at City Hall that made our council chambers look so wonderful for the holiday season.

36:09

Yeah, festive and makes a big difference.

36:18

Um we're gonna hold 26 and I guess move on to 27.

36:23

Hey, counselor, do we have any update on 26 though?

36:26

Uh we are I I've had some meetings with some folks on the IT and digital services team.

36:34

Um progress is slow, but hopefully we're hopefully we're moving somewhere.

36:41

Not sure where we're moving.

36:42

But I had made a request earlier in our meeting to make sure, you know, as we go forward to really start to identify within this, you know, what what have we really accomplished?

36:56

One, two, three, like like line items to really say this is what we have done.

37:02

This is where the we need to really push harder.

37:05

And I guess maybe Commissioner um might have you step away for a minute and and go back to the email sent out yesterday related to SWC, and just kind of tied to the payroll modernization project if we could get an update on what did or didn't happen yesterday and what a backup is when our clocks go down and and how we can proceed.

37:28

Uh thank you, Councillor Corey Dunham, Chief Administrative Officer.

37:31

This is one of the challenges that we have even with SWC is that right now it's hosted on a server at Onadaka County, whereas part of the effort um that we'd like to pursue with Mosaic is to move us to Pro WFM, which would be based in the cloud and not on a server.

37:50

Um, and that's what that's in part what would be part of this project.

37:53

Also, working with Mosaic would be to move us to Pro WFM, which is the new version of SWC, which would then be cloud-based and not dependent on the county and their servers.

38:03

Are we back up and operational today?

38:05

I believe so.

38:07

Yes.

38:08

Okay.

38:08

Okay.

38:09

Thank you.

38:09

Thank you.

38:12

Thank you, Commissioner.

38:13

Hey, uh, good afternoon.

38:15

Mike Kennisara, Commissioner of Finance.

38:16

Um, so we're moving on to 27, 28, and 29.

38:20

This is the um calendar year 2026 uh county tax levy.

38:25

Um so really the the three components here, the uh county tax, um, which that would be uh includes the city apportionment, uh the city abstract, um that amount also includes the city drainage amount, so the 45 million eight oh one.

38:40

Um that is actually a slight decrease um from the prior year of a few hundred thousand dollars.

38:46

Um the water district uh tax, nine hundred and eighty-nine thousand dollars.

38:51

That's an increase of about a hundred and seventy-five thousand dollars from prior year, and then the uh sewer rent um that totals 33.7 million dollars, and that is an increase of uh about two and a half million from last year.

39:07

Um as far as the amounts that are in in our control, um really that'd be the abstract.

39:12

Uh just to give you some information, we did get the draft uh abstract back in September.

39:17

Um so we did do some due diligence on that, and we did get one of the abstract charges reduced by about 370,000, um, just kind of by going back and forth with them and questioning some of those costs.

39:30

Um, you know, kind of a win there.

39:33

Um, but any other questions on the county tax levy Councilor Williams, are you contemplating um life itself, Counselor Hill?

39:45

Well, along with life itself, I'm just wondering about the life of the PSB and you know, uh the abstract, of course, was uh subject to PSB for many years.

39:56

And you know, you might we we we might want to look into that in the future.

40:00

So specifically surrounding the PSB right now and the 26 taxes that is um a charge for the full calendar year that um assuming we move out by the end of Q1 2026, um we would receive a credit on next year's abstract.

40:16

But right now, this current tax assumes we're gonna be in the PSV in the entire year.

40:21

Right.

40:22

Thank you.

40:24

Uh item 30.

40:35

Afternoon, counselors, day project, director of IT.

40:38

Um items 30 and 31 are to allow us to install uh fiber internet connection at uh number 30 is Wilson Park to support the e-gaming initiative over there and item 31 is um at the Sydney Johnson uh center.

40:56

Uh fire is taking over part of that to work on their rigs.

41:01

So we're asking for permission to go forward with that for the uh the spectrum connections.

41:09

I'm gonna say, Dave, the um gaming system at Wilson Park is amazing.

41:15

You guys like IT part that you did and make sure it's running, it's just everyone that played a major privacy and everybody to make that up to make it look so beautiful for the kids.

41:25

I wish we could take all the credit or even portion it's of the credit but parks and AJ and Yeah, I know.

41:32

They did a great job.

41:32

You know, it's a team.

41:34

Anybody who hasn't seen it, you have to stop by it.

41:36

It's a cool, it's a cool place.

41:37

Absolutely.

41:38

Thank you, everybody.

41:39

Just got one question before you go.

41:41

Um just out of curiosity, just wondering how much do we spend a month for the whole entire city as far as internet services go?

41:48

Do you know?

41:48

Uh off the top of my head I don't, but I can get you that, because we've got 30 or 35 accounts.

41:53

I can get you that total though.

41:55

Are they all at 900 per month?

41:57

Excuse me.

41:58

Are they all at 900 per month?

41:59

No, these are only fiber connections.

42:01

Okay.

42:01

So these are uh most of ours aren't that expensive except like a PSB or our water shop.

42:08

Most of our rec centers are at 99 dollars or 129 dollars a month.

42:12

Okay, but it's a much lower speed.

42:14

Perfect.

42:14

It's e-gaming that really demands that sort of bandwidth.

42:17

Okay.

42:17

Okay.

42:18

Thank you.

42:19

Thank you.

42:20

So just a quick uh Chief Mann, is that so this is the for you?

42:27

This is the temporal space you are going to yes, uh, this is for the uh our light fleet, our smaller fire trucks, until we get everything down on South Salinas Street Squared away, we're just over there.

42:39

And so we have uh requirements that need online access for Department of Motor Vehicles and Department of Transportation.

42:44

Okay.

42:45

Okay.

42:45

All right, thank you.

42:46

And it's only it's a month-to-month contract so we can get out at any time.

42:50

There's no installation cost there for us either.

42:52

Okay, okay.

42:52

Thank you.

42:53

Thanks.

42:53

Right.

42:54

And item 32.

43:01

Good afternoon, counselors.

43:03

Vinny Scipione, director of digital services.

43:05

Uh item 32 is for a payment to uh electronic data corporation, EDC for short, as we call them, uh, for professional services related to uh to uh enabling us to conduct the parking amnesty program this year.

43:20

So is this something that we needed before or is it something that's gonna make it easier to help with the amnesty program?

43:26

So this uh work involves the preparation of the platform to kind of uh remove all of the fines and surcharges that were previously applied, right?

43:37

Uh run this amnesty and then also includes the reversal of that.

43:41

So once amnesty ends after this extended period allows us to then uh you know revert the system back to the state, you know, pre-amnesty and you know preserve the ones that were paid off as paid in full, right?

43:54

You know, during the amnesty period, and then add back on the fines for tickets that were not uh you know closed out during the amnesty period.

44:04

Um is there anyone who can speak to the volume of the Mnesty program and where we started where we are now and about where we hope to be.

44:12

Six days ago we put out a press release with some updated information.

44:16

Uh um at that time we had uh approximately 91,000 worth of uh you know collection that has occurred uh during Amnesty up to that point.

44:27

Uh and and anticipate probably not a ton of movement over the weekend given that it was a holiday weekend and people are preoccupied.

44:34

So those are the latest numbers we have, but we'll certainly be looking to do a more comprehensive uh data analysis post-amnesty uh with you know uh the overall performance.

44:44

Yeah.

44:45

Benny, for for the for the however this will go, could we also keep track of how many fees in the in total have been forgiven once one this is over to?

45:00

Yes, certainly the uh from last week uh it was almost even say it was about 50,000 in base fines that have been paid in about 41,000 in um fees that had been uh you know uh removed rather.

45:16

So 41.

45:17

Yeah.

45:19

And since the program been extended to January um expired then, should you not increase the cost amount not to exceed the cover because this is like up to November.

45:34

I think I asked Abin that um earlier in the week just uh in case you so you wanna have to come back and amend the ordinance or whatever.

45:41

Should the uh amount not to exceed go up more, being that amount was added to the case.

45:45

Oh no, uh issue.

45:46

I see what you're saying.

45:47

No, um this is just this was uh a one-time fee to enable the ability to do the uh you know start of amnesty and the stop of amnesty.

45:56

So there won't be it's not tied to a timeline in terms of uh yeah, we won't have to come back and say is there you know we need another 6600 or uh you know uh because it's been extended another month.

46:05

Yeah, it was a one-time fee uh to just do that function in the platform.

46:10

So once approved this program starts immediately.

46:12

It's well no, this is already amnesty's already active now.

46:15

This is yeah, amnesty is already active.

46:17

This is for the work uh, you know, it's the for the start that's already happened uh for amnesty, and then also includes uh the stopping of amnesty, if you will.

46:26

Uh you know, is all inclusive within us.

46:28

Yeah, okay.

46:29

All right, thank you.

46:32

Thank you.

46:33

Thanks.

46:33

Thank you, Madam President.

46:34

Counselor Caldwell for Councillor Jones.

46:37

Thank you, Madam President.

46:38

I have Councillor Jones Rouser's agendas.

46:40

I have items 33 to 54.

46:45

I think 33 is going to maybe want to give us the update or somebody would give us up.

46:51

Oh, okay.

46:52

Jake Dish again, deputy commissioner of codes and zoning.

46:55

Um item 33.

46:56

We just heard back from New York State on Monday.

46:59

They're reviewing our draft.

47:02

Um I'm hopeful we'll hear hear back from them by the end of the week, but if not, we're pushing them to get it done by the end of the year.

47:08

So this would at worst case scenario, uh two weeks from now, we can have it done and maybe finalized on the 22nd, but that'd be a worst case scenario.

47:20

Okay.

47:20

So this is Jake.

47:22

This is the first time it's been amended since 2011.

47:26

Yes.

47:27

And so what we've done is our our draft, we're trying to make sure that New York State is good with our draft so we don't have to redo it.

47:34

And maybe typical of the state took a while for them to get back to us.

47:38

We heard back from them Monday, and we're just awaiting final word that what we drafted is sufficient before you voted through.

47:47

Yeah, I I just like last meeting we had a similar issue, uh, but it regarded 485A, uh the the uh uh basically it's a pilot agreement, the state, and we had to amend and we had to align ourselves with the with local law with state law.

48:05

I'm just wondering the administration who monitors the changes in state law so we're up to date with the local law.

48:11

Does Greg, you know, I mean, do we do that on a regular case?

48:15

We wait for the state to get a hold of us on stuff like this.

48:20

Well, I mean I'm just not talking about codes, I'm talking about any kind of state law that affects any kind of function of our local government.

48:27

I mean it's if there's a gap there, maybe Corey.

48:31

Council counselor uh Corey.

48:34

Um go on.

48:36

It's me again.

48:37

Uh I think generally speaking, we look to departments, you know, since there's a subject matter experts oftentimes to uh be mindful of changes that might be made on this state level to um to the content that they work with, but also obviously Greg through NICOM through our relationships with the governor and the law department, we do try to also monitor those, but there is a role for the department to play as well.

48:59

Okay, I'm just as a note of caution.

49:02

I mean absolutely no, it's it's a very reasonable flag.

49:05

Council it it is uh delay because even with the mayor's license when something changes there, we find we can find out maybe like three to six months late.

49:15

So I wish that happened the first time I got married.

49:20

I'm serious.

49:21

So you know the other thing I wanted to mention about this right here.

49:27

Um Joe, do you think that um that maybe we should place this on the council desk if the council want to um so that it won't get you know tabled because uh we're in the like last season of the year, last weeks of the year, I mean.

49:45

Yeah, Joe Joe Barry, first assistant corporation counsel.

49:48

Uh the issue we have to wait and see if the state recommends is gonna change changes.

49:53

Yeah.

49:53

Um terms of the end of the year, I believe we have carried local laws over before.

50:00

Yeah, we have.

50:01

Introduce it and table it, and then the new it would be eligible for the new council to take up in January.

50:07

Yeah, I just thought that we was gonna close out this year with um with all everything off the agenda.

50:12

I don't know that's I know that's our common practice, and we try to do it as a matter of making a clean start, but legally we could carry it over if you wish to.

50:22

That's no no problem.

50:24

I just thought that it might have been, but I I wasn't even thinking of the fact that the local law might change, so that kind of like get away with that.

50:31

Um that ideal of uh putting it on the desk.

50:33

Yeah, unfortunately.

50:35

Um we'll see if if they get back to us by Friday, we can hopefully have that ready Monday.

50:40

Yeah, okay.

50:41

We'll see how it goes.

50:44

Thank you.

50:44

Yep, that's good.

50:47

Okay.

50:49

Kayla, you ready, Caitlin?

50:53

Good afternoon, counselors.

50:54

Caelan Hubbard, neighborhood planner.

50:56

Um, items 34 through 54 are items for transfer to the Greater Syracuse Land Bank.

51:01

We're gonna hold four of these.

51:03

Um hold item 42, item 50.

51:07

Sorry, sorry, item five.

51:08

I'll slow down.

51:09

Item 42, item 50, 51, and 53.

51:18

It's just for uh to give us some more time for outreach.

51:22

One on um, Caitlin, the one on 50.

51:27

You said 53 or 50.

51:29

We're holding 53.

51:31

Okay, we're gonna hold 53.

51:33

Okay.

51:36

Any questions?

51:37

Most of these are all vacant land.

51:39

Yeah.

51:40

Cool.

51:41

Thank you.

51:41

Thanks, Caitlin.

51:42

Thank you.

51:43

Thank you.

51:44

Thank you.

51:45

Councilor Williams for Councilor Montal.

51:47

Thank you, Madam President.

51:48

We're gonna hold 55.

51:49

All righty.

51:51

And with that, I need a motion to adjourn.

51:54

Second.

51:54

Second.

51:55

All in favor, uh meeting adjourned.

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Summary of Proceedings

Syracuse Common Council Meeting - December 3, 2025

The Syracuse Common Council met on December 3, 2025, presided by President Hudson. The council considered a wide range of items including annual agreements, technology contracts, property matters, a county tax levy, and zoning updates. Several items were held for further review.

Routine Approvals

  • Annual agreement with Onondaga County to reimburse a portion of payments for the tick and dare management program ($59,046 for the 2024-25 program).
  • Annual agreement with Okra for trash disposal; tipping fee increased by $6 per ton (recycling fee unchanged); approximately 33,000 to 35,000 tons of trash processed annually.
  • Agreement with routing software vendor for a customer-facing bulky scheduler platform, also providing online access to trash day, recycling, yard waste, and other city service information.
  • Lease agreement with New York Susquehanna & Western Railroad for parcels at 115/116 South Gettis Street (north of West Fayette Street) for parking to support the 1153 relocation; $1 per year, one-year lease with renewals.
  • Agreement with InBiodin for a mobile slip simulator to train approximately 250 DPW, Parks, and Water employees, addressing the leading cause of workers’ compensation claims (slips, trips, and falls) which has cost over $2 million in the last five years.
  • Zone change at 100 Elizabeth Street combining a tiny lot and a larger corner lot to create two buildable lots for two houses.
  • Land swap between the Anglers Association and a residential property near Webster’s Pond, shifting property lines to grant the association street frontage on Valley Drive and give the residence a traditional front-to-back lot.
  • Correction of an earlier ordinance increasing the annual fee for an environmental monitoring well on Erie Boulevard (New York State DOT right-of-way) from $100 to $200.
  • Authorization to hire an appraiser (Brockner Tillett Rossi Cahel Associates) to appraise property at 2176 Erie Boulevard for potential redevelopment.
  • Authorization to appraise the Garzones property (after resubdivision) to share value with interested developers; the adjacent floral shop and Save the Rain/watershed areas will remain untouched.
  • Memorial street sign for Officer Michael Jensen (Syracuse Police Department), requested by the Tipperary Hill Neighborhood Association.
  • Fiber internet connections at Wilson Park (to support the e‑gaming initiative) and at the Sydney Johnson Center (for fire department rigs).
  • Payment to Electronic Data Corporation (EDC) for professional services enabling the 2025 parking amnesty program platform; one-time fee for setup and reversal. As of six days prior, $91,000 had been collected, with $50,000 in base fines paid and $41,000 in fees forgiven. The amnesty period has been extended to January.
  • Transfer of multiple vacant properties to the Greater Syracuse Land Bank (items 34–41, 43–49, 52, 54).

Discussion Items

  • Fire Department EMS Recertification (Item 13): Chief Mine presented an $11,000 agreement with CNY EMS to use the EMS One Academy for recertification of all sworn firefighters (380 personnel). Without the program, firefighters could not maintain required New York State certifications. Council clarified that this is separate from AMR’s civilian EMT training initiative.
  • County Tax Levy 2026 (Items 27–29): Finance Commissioner Mike Kennisara reported the county tax levy components: county tax apportionment of $45.8 million (a slight decrease from the prior year), water district tax of $989,000 (increase of $175,000), and sewer rent of $33.7 million (increase of $2.5 million). The city secured a $370,000 reduction in abstract charges by questioning certain costs.
  • Zoning Code Update (Item 33): Jake Dish (Deputy Commissioner of Codes and Zoning) updated that the state reviewed the draft amendment on Monday; he expects final word by the end of the week or year’s end. The code has not been amended since 2011. If not finalized by the last meeting of the year, the council may introduce and table it for the new council to take up in January. Council discussed the need for better monitoring of state law changes affecting local ordinances.
  • Payroll Modernization (during discussion of Items 26–27): CAO Corey Dunham explained that the current SWC system is hosted on a county server. The planned move to Mosaic’s Pro WFM will be cloud‑based, addressing recent outages. The system was back online at the time of the meeting.

Held Items

  • Item 9 (undisclosed) – held.
  • Item 26 (payroll/personnel matter) – held for further progress.
  • Items 42, 50, 51, and 53 (vacant land transfers to the Land Bank) – held to allow more time for outreach.
  • Item 55 – held.

Key Outcomes

  • All items not listed as held were approved by the council.
  • A public meeting regarding item 18 will be held on Friday, December 5, 2025 at 10:00 AM.
  • The zoning code update (Item 33) may be introduced and tabled to carry over to the new council if not completed by the final December meeting.
  • Council will monitor the extension of the parking amnesty program; the one‑time EDC fee covers both initiation and conclusion regardless of the extension.

Meeting Transcript

On Monday, so I'm gonna put that ready with a question mark. Councilor Pennyagua. Where are you? Oh, um this is item nine, and we're gonna be holding it. Council Caldwell. Thank you, Madam President. I have item ten. Uh Commissioner Bird is here. This is just uh annual Ray? Sorry. Yeah, this is just yep, annual. Oh no, it's good. You or Greg. I'll do one. Okay, yeah, it's just angel. Say Shabur Commissioner Parks. This is a yes annual agreement with the county to reimburse a portion of the payments made in association with the city's adopt to adopt the tick and dare management program. The amount not succeeded and this is for twenty four twenty-five program. Um fifty-nine thousand dollars fifty-nine thousand four hundred. Excuse me, I can't read today. We got you. Fifty nine thousand forty-six dollars. We got you. Thank you. Yeah, thank you, madam president. Councilmember Juck. Thank you, Madam President. I have item thirteen no eleven to thirteen. Uh whose from the department. Are you are you chief? Right. Oh, I can speak to number eleven. So we're uh over at our new place eleven fifty-three, we're looking to install five additional axon interview cameras in our new interview rooms. We have five that are currently at the PSB that we'll move over. But there's five additional rooms. Excuse me, that we'll be looking to uh to install. Axon currently we want to stay with Axon because it will integrate the whole system. But they're not public cameras, they're interior cameras for um questioning, that sort of thing. W where i i is it because there's more rooms? Yes. Oh, okay. There's additional interview rooms. Um and we'd like to get the that covered with uh the cameras. Okay. And the ability to record. All right. Thank you. Commissioner, are you taking item twelve? Michael got it. Okay.

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