10:40Um this is the citizen review board uh meeting.
10:44Um so welcome everyone and uh we'll do a roll call.
10:52Um and since you're the secretary, you want to do the roll call?
11:00Yes, I got your name right now.
11:07Yeah, no, Linda's not here.
11:31So uh first um line of business is has everyone had an opportunity to uh review the minutes from the last meeting?
11:43Uh we need to get a motion to approve those minutes.
11:48Okay, we have a motion on the floor.
11:57I carry motion for adopting the amendment from the last meeting carries.
12:03Um the chairman report.
12:06First of all, I'd like to um thank everyone for um coming back for another session.
12:12Um I want to give out oh here's comes Harry now, so yeah.
12:28First of all, I'd like to um give thanks to uh the new mayor elect uh Sharon Owens for uh uh re-electing our chair for another term, Peggy uh Chase.
12:44Unfortunately, she's as vice chair.
12:46So happy to have Peggy back on board.
12:49Also um to have Linda Brett uh serving out another term.
12:55So we have one more person that we need to get on the board.
12:58We'll have a full operating board at that point.
13:01Uh we'll have all eleven members on there.
13:04Um and not to be remiss, I would also like to uh give thanks to Cho, who has uh did a tireless job of um helping out the CRB.
13:14He's no longer on that.
13:16Uh the safety committee is now Donna Moore.
13:21Uh Nolita and I met with her last week.
13:25I think she's gonna be a great asset uh to the CRB board.
13:28So I'm excited about that uh the regime change.
13:35Well and Anna said she would put me on the reminder for the safety committee meetings.
14:05Uh already that we know of.
14:07I'm not I'm not uh that familiar with her background.
14:11So um she works with North East Community Center and has been working with the refugees for um Yeah, I know quite a few years.
14:24Yeah, I know how she I think she will be good.
14:27She has been corroborating with everyone.
14:29So uh she definitely have a um compassion for the citizens and for people.
14:35So I think she'll be an excellent asset to the board.
14:38Uh uh as our go-to for the the council.
14:41So um the next thing on the agenda is the administrator report.
14:51Good evening, everyone.
14:57Well, Donna's already mentioned us meeting with Donna Moore.
15:03I do think as well, she's going to be a great asset for us.
15:09It was good to sit and hear her ideas of what she wants to do.
15:17And she wanted to hear what the CRB was up to.
15:21And she's in full support of whatever it is that we do.
15:24We she has uh stated that we have full access to her.
15:27All we have to do is just give her a call.
15:29So I do appreciate that.
15:31Um I too echoed this sentiments of thinking Cho for the role that he played.
15:38He was when he uh when he was in office.
15:41Um so I do thank him for that.
15:44He was a great asset as well, and he helped out a lot quite a bit.
15:47And uh he too had open phone policy for me.
15:50If I needed anything, he would call and I would call, and he also has said he's still be, he'll still be around.
15:56So if I needed him, that he would still take my phone calls.
16:02So during the month of January, um focused on uh strategic coordination, police retaliation, and the internal board of development.
16:11Um attended the mayor's inauguration on January 3rd and participated, of course, in the board meetings.
16:19Um attended the board's police committee meeting and quarterly meeting with the Chiefs Cabinet, uh, where the board was formally introduced to Chief Russen's cabinet.
16:32So we got a chance to meet all of the new chiefs that were uh have been put in place and we had a really good meeting, good discussion.
16:40Um also we are in continued discussion with their name again, Bosque.
16:47Okay and hosting in regards to the hearing and time, so nothing has been scheduled just yet.
16:54We're still waiting on that.
16:56Um conducted, of course, weekly um staff meetings.
17:00We meet every Friday.
17:02The CRB, we meet every single Friday to just make sure that we're all on the same page and we got a good flow going and we keep that flow going.
17:12Um we all attended the CCA, which is the Center of For Community Alternatives.
17:21Um we have been presenting to them quite a bit.
17:24Uh, but there's a different group every time we go, so that's really good that we're getting our faces out there, getting our name out there.
17:32I've reviewed 10 cases for the month of January, five of which are going to be slated for tonight executive board meeting.
17:45Uh Julie has um successfully opened 11 new files.
17:56Uh we had a total of 20 letters sent out.
17:5911 of them were acknowledgement letters, and five of them were closing letters.
18:07She received three letters um from the outside that three, I'm sorry, she sent out three letters um to let them know that we didn't cover their jurisdiction and it was outside of what the CRB does.
18:21Um, and then we have Don who is such a busybody.
18:26Um, but he's also attended the mayor inauguration.
18:31Um he also attended the state of address.
18:34Um he partnered with Adonia to present at the NAACP monthly membership meeting where they were able to discuss and get their faces, get our faces out there once again.
18:46And um, so we are definitely moving in the community.
18:49We're in the community, we're doing events.
18:51Um he focused on recruitment for the new board members here, um, along with Chris.
18:59They did some data things that they were uh working on for the CRB.
19:06Um actively participated in the cases where I have sent out cases for them to view.
19:16Um, and so we all work together.
19:19So everyone participates in case management, um, viewing of the documents and stuff, so that we have a good idea of what's going on.
19:29It's not just one person's idea, but it's coming from different views where everybody can see something different and bring something different to the table.
19:37Um, and I think it's very important because sometimes I might miss something, and believe me, they let me know that I've missed it, and they will uh see things that I don't see.
19:47So I can appreciate having a good working team.
19:52Umia is focusing on education to the community, doing outreach, um, ensuring that the community understands how to access CRB services, um, and also giving them information.
20:07She is the go-to person.
20:09So when we are out here doing these events and tabling, majority of the time um they are coming from Adonia.
20:16Someone either has called her to ask her to table, or she comes up with these things that are in the community.
20:23Um and we all try to attend to be supportive uh when she's out tabling.
20:29Um so her again, she attended the end uh the NAACP, also the CCA.
20:37Um and she has some other things that are coming up really soon.
20:40So please, please, please look at the website so that you can see the calendar.
20:45And if you are able to make the event, please show up, show her some support as she is putting making sure that we have our faces in the community.
20:55Uh then we have Chris, our data analysis person.
20:59Chris is focusing on technical infrastructure and creating um comprehensive progress progressive reports.
21:08So he is doing a ton of stuff with data that I am not data savvy with, but he is really good with explaining um what the pie what the charts look like and what the data information is, how he collaborated it.
21:23Um and he is working on a really good report for the annual reporting.
21:30So he's working on a master spreadsheet that keeps tracking of the system, keep tracking of our cases in the system itself.
21:37Um he reviewed past reports to create a new format for 2025.
21:42He decided to keep this the format that was set for this year.
21:47It's a little bit complicated to try to change it now for it to go in.
21:50So, but 2025, the report will look different, and that will be due to what Chris does.
21:56Um we have also purchased a technical backup storage for our records just in case we have that same problem that we had a few months back where the systems crashed and we lost some things.
22:15Um, but we have it backed up now, and so if if it does happen, we do have a backup to the backup.
22:21So that's really good.
22:22And that was also Chris's idea, which I thought was really great.
22:26Um, he partnered with Don and they um put some statistics and created maps for the 2024 annual report.
22:35Um and I believe what else did you guys do?
22:42Then uh just want to also note that um I think it is the end of March, Chris, that uh we're gonna be putting on a data presentation for the board uh to show you some of the things that are happening along the data lines and with the city.
22:58I'm also setting I talked to uh Chief Rustin about having Chris and I come over to the police department to start looking at some of their data so we can correlate their data in with some of our data to see exactly what patterns are developing out there in the market and and things of that sort.
23:15The other thing that I wanted to just uh emphasize is that one of the requirements of the CRB is that each of the board members is supposed to be sponsoring an event uh in their district.
23:28Um I think Adonia has sent out an email.
23:31If not, it'll go out sometime some sometime this week, uh, requesting everyone to send in uh when they would like to uh sponsor an event in the in their area, and then we can uh you can work with her and setting that that information up and getting uh so we can get it um in each of the areas to make sure everyone has the exposure to the CRB.
23:53So that's gonna be February 28th.
24:02The data presentation with Chris.
24:05And I think we said it was oh 10 to 10 to one, 10 to 1.
24:13And that's gonna be at the office of the CRB.
24:24But I'll let you let you know.
24:28One of the things that um I think we're gonna try to do before I leave the office there, is to um set up some type of recording.
24:37So if we're putting it on a class and someone can't make it, then at least we'll have a video of that presentation so people can look at it online and uh um keep everybody on the same path.
24:51So any old business that anyone wants to discuss.
25:03Uh I'm wondering besides myself, how many people on the board have yet to get a token to get into the system?
25:12Oh, because it that needs to be resolved.
25:16I've been waiting for probably did you get your token yet?
25:21We go through this every time the token comes up.
25:24Never received the token ever.
25:27And uh and you can't prove that I got one.
25:31Well, actually I got an idea that I don't know about how what to do with it, but I've been there.
25:38I understand how the process is with it, that type of thing, and I'm familiar with the system for meeting with you.
25:44But I still don't have it, and I think that we'd like to get that out of the way.
25:48We'll get your token ASAP.
25:51I think I have a token, but I don't have access to the one drive.
25:56We actually got you and Octavia on the OneDrive.
26:01Um so that was as of yesterday.
26:04So I'll be sending out your new password.
26:07Okay, did I send you a password out, Octavia?
26:10I think that you did.
26:12Um but it was the same one you gave me the other day.
26:15Well no, it's a little different.
26:22Because I actually I got into the OneDrive, I got into everything.
26:25I got to where they asked me for this number on here.
26:29And I still couldn't get it.
26:30So I don't quite know.
26:33I were opening to one side.
26:36I'm not particularly this isn't my I'm good at growing flowers.
26:42Okay, so um I'll make sure that everyone has access to the one drive.
26:47Peggy and Ada, I uh you guys uh tokens are over in my desk.
26:53So and then Mike, I'll make sure I get your physical token uh from Tim.
26:58Um meet in the parking lot with a brown paper bag.
27:03We can exchange our case.
27:07I'm just saying I need to get a baggie.
27:10I can the system itself is is familiar to me as far as uh how uh the the system itself and the password.
27:19Um the other thing I wanted to mention is we in September in the in the fourth meeting, uh we held the discussion.
27:25I my notes don't reflect that we voted, but I think we did for the oversight board.
27:30But we haven't discussed it since then.
27:31We decided there would be three board members and a three city residents that board members could recommend.
27:37And the our director would be uh part of it.
27:39That would be the seven people on the board.
27:42And the board would uh review and make recommendations regarding at the very least our current bylaws.
27:49That's what their job is.
27:51But um again, nothing is occurred.
27:54I think we may have discussed it slightly in October.
27:57Uh so I'm bringing it up again is to um to resolve it, for example, at the very least uh board members should have a recommendation into you by the next meeting, and we can vote on the next meeting.
28:14I think uh my other notes reflect that i i if a board member recommends something, it's someone that they can't be related to by um legally or biologically.
28:24City resident, but not related to the person making the nomination.
28:30Um so do we need to make a motion on that or not?
28:35Are you establishing the committee?
28:39It's what what Mike is what Mike is pointing out is that he wants each of the board members to send in their recommendation uh for us to vote on at the next meeting.
28:49If it's the answer to your question is my notes don't reflect whether we voted to establish it on at the September meeting.
28:56I just don't remember.
28:58We did not probably say we're talking about more oralize.
29:02Michael, you want to.
29:03I make a motion that we establish a seven-person over site review board uh for the CRB, whose primary purpose will be to review our bylaws and make recommendations.
29:18Can I get a second on that?
29:21It's been moved and second.
29:26Uh let's take the vote.
29:31Those who have staying.
29:38Whatever the date is for our March meeting.
29:44Um everyone needs to make sure they get that information in to me.
29:49Now I have sent an email out um to everyone about the committees.
29:54Um and it uh outline um the responsibilities for those committees.
30:00If you guys can all take a look at that, decide what committees you want to be on.
30:05And then I can go ahead and put together the committee listing.
30:09And I also send out a form for us to fill out when we have the committee meetings so we know what's going on and everybody can stay on the same page.
30:20Any other uh old business that we need to discuss?
30:24Yeah, by the way, thank you for bringing the the committee thing, because time runs so fast.
30:31And and I think the office is doing a good job.
30:36So shout out to Adonia.
30:38I see her everywhere.
30:41And all the administration and Dan and Norida, they are all doing a good job.
30:47And I think like the board, we need to make sure that the committee is going where is moving.
30:56Because the most thing I want to bring out is the translation for the immigrants for the new Americans.
31:08The one I requested, you know, this is very important.
31:12If you need help with the translation, I can help.
31:16But we need to welcome that as soon as possible.
31:19Uh so that you know they they can they can know the loss and the regression of this country.
31:26That's very important when the police stop you what you do.
31:30Uh so I think by the time I end my term on this board, I need that to have been imprimented.
31:40We'll definitely get working on that.
31:42Um I'm not sure what you're saying.
31:44Are you saying the CRB board rules or translated?
31:50What are you talking about?
31:52No, the education materials.
31:54Right, you know, to be translated into languages.
31:57So different languages.
31:59Education materials and other languages.
32:02What to do when you stop by the police.
32:05Um, there's quite a lot of that out there.
32:08I was actually at uh Tilly's touch, the soccer place over on uh by an assumption church, my grandson plays that for that.
32:16And they actually have cards, and they have them, I think, in at least 15 different languages.
32:22So that may already exist.
32:26But I think desire is is is gearing more towards the CRB material that we have.
32:32That we can to building confidence in the new American people that they can report cases because they always have fear, you know, if they face violence, if they they face challenges, how can they report?
32:49You know, because I have like I know new American leaders, but I can't go to meet them if we don't have translated materials.
32:59It's gonna be very easy if we have them so they can lead in their own languages.
33:05Otherwise, we may need an interpreter wherever we go.
33:08If we go to the Alabiq, I don't know how to speak Alabic, you know, so that's very important.
33:16I said we'll definitely be working on getting that taken care of.
33:20Um, one other thing.
33:23Oh, um far as position at the uh CRB.
33:32Uh the only position that we have left that needs to be filled is the one for the investigator.
33:38Um I am working on some alternatives on how we may handle that situation.
33:44Um I'll be drafting the letter and I'll be getting it out to you guys uh to get some feedback on some options that we can take to get that position filled.
33:55So one of one of the things that is still available to us is we can use the people that we were using before.
34:02Uh uh what's on them?
34:06Are we not still using them?
34:08We are still using them.
34:10Um what I'll do is I'll get that letter out to everyone uh for you to review.
34:17Um some options on how we can cut costs and still get the job done.
34:22So is that something that we're representing as far as because of Freelander is it that is there we're looking at the rates based on them and compare some two something else?
34:34Well, we're looking at rate, and then they also have a cat.
34:37So uh once they hit that cat, then we're just sort of stuck without them.
34:42So we're trying to become self-sufficient.
34:45So is Freelander is that a private I firm?
34:50It's the um it's an investigation firm that's here.
34:55Uh Virgil um is the uh owner of that company.
35:01So uh does he are are you requiring that that they have a uh license from the state of New York as a private investigator?
35:09He does, he has a license through the state of New York.
35:12So and we've used them for years.
35:17And so and and and normally the time that we we use freelan is when we have a case um that goes beyond our scope um that uh needs some more deep investigation.
35:30So that's when we turn the the freelan.
35:33But a lot of the cases that we deal with, we can deal with those cases in-house without actually having to go out.
35:39What what's the hourly rate that the uh CRB offers to a private investigator?
35:46Um I think if I'm not mistaken, it is ninety-five dollars an hour.
36:01I have one more thing.
36:02Um I uh when I was registering people to vote at the state fair the other day, I I met a fellow who I votering club, I believe.
36:13And he was interested in having a presentation um at done for them.
36:19So I have his information, I'll give it to Adonia.
36:24You could use that as one of your your one event.
36:28All right, can be that thing.
36:33Oh, I and I just want to point out that Sunday um Adonia and I are gonna be doing a presentation up at Nottingham Sch uh School is the um Asian festival that they have every year that's up there.
36:47So if any of you want to help uh table at that event, we definitely welcome you.
36:52It's from two to six or two the yeah, two to six.
36:57So where's the date of?
37:02Uh that's Sunday the eight the eighth.
37:16They used to do it at the after.
37:18Yeah, they well, last year they did it at Nightingham.
37:21I was there last year.
37:22So we're gonna move on to um the committee reports.
37:32Um and right now, since the only uh com committee that's functioning right now is the police relationships, and that's Mike uh Elise and Linda.
37:43Um do you guys have anything to report on that?
37:46Mike does the uh our our director gave our uh essentially our report.
37:53We didn't meet, we um and dad, we were looking for you there.
37:57We were expect I'm serious, we were expecting you to be there.
38:00Well, I I attended the first one and then um uh uh other than that, you know I'm trying to slip out of this right.
38:10Um no, we met the entire new administration.
38:14Uh they're all there.
38:15Were we missing anyone?
38:18And had a a discussion relative to uh um our relationship with them, but it was it was very cordial, met them.
38:25I'm not sure we covered anything really dramatic other than we had a discussion at their point in time.
38:32I think that um and this is a question that was posed.
38:36I think at that point in time there had already been one homicide in Minneapolis.
38:43Uh no, and then the second homicide occurred after that meeting.
38:47But I posed a question to the chief relative to the conduct.
38:50Uh the the there is there's a trickle-down effect uh between uh federal, state, local as far as police agencies mirroring what they see other police agencies doing.
39:03And I brought that up as far as his organization, is this something that they've already met on and discussed uh relative to that type of conduct and the manner in which uh law enforcement acts in the community, and he seemed to be well aware of it.
39:19They were talking about it.
39:20He also gave us his top top two issues for coming in his first year, uh which was pr pretty interesting.
39:27I don't have the notes with me, but I mean um uh my perspective is given their age, um this is about as youthful as the police department, you're going to find it, and I don't mean that is a derogatory comment.
39:46Normally uh at that point in time for chiefs and deputy chiefs, they're somewhere between 80 and 100 years old.
39:53Um these folks are all in their forties, they are articulate, they are well educated.
40:00I'm not suggesting that by describing you that way that you're going to have that you ultimately get the police force you want, but this is a young department.
40:11And with a lot of uh well-educated uh bright ideas, and they are articulate in what their goals are and where they want to go.
40:19So it was it was a um it was a positive meeting.
40:24Uh one of the things that I I want to give kudos to the uh committee.
40:29Um what they do now is that we they umito looks at a lot of the cases in the Donia, and we come up with some of the things that may not have been an infraction but could lead into being an infraction.
40:43Um so they meet prior to going over to the police department and draft out some things that they think that would be helpful to the police department uh for modification and changes to make sure that uh things run along smooth and the citizens of Syracuse are being uh treated in the proper way.
41:03So uh like I say, kudos out to you guys committee.
41:05I think you guys are doing a phenomenal job, and uh just keep up the good work.
41:13This is uh uh this will be the only time.
41:16This is because we switched to Tuesday.
41:18Same here, I uh I I'm gonna have to leave it uh 615 also myself.
41:23There is still my belief is even if you and I leave, we should have to do that.
41:26It's still be a quorum of seven.
41:29So Peggy's gonna, as the vice chairman will then handle the um the executive session for the review of the claims of the cases.
41:39So and I do apologize, but again, um I had made this commitment prior to uh switching from a Thursday to a Tuesday night.
41:48So next thing on the agenda is the uh public comment.
42:02Welcome to the new year.
42:03I have a question for you later.
42:11Um you know who I am, Barry Gwanter, resident of Syracuse, 13207.
42:16Um first thing I understand that you did a case investigation training on 115.
42:23That's a necessary training.
42:25What I'm curious about is whether that covered use of force and analysis of use of force, search of persons, vehicles, and homes, and also procedures when officers arrive at a scene.
42:39All of those things are essential to be able to analyze a complaint.
42:44So I'm wondering what was included in that.
42:49Um, um, I was thrilled to see a third and and a fourth quarter report on the website.
42:58Kudos to you, Miss Tannehill.
43:00Um I was wondering in past reports and past years for the CRB, they did indicate the types of complaints that came in, without being able to identify who they were tied to, or the officers about whom there may have been complaints, but simply the type of complaints.
43:21There was so many use of force, there was so many demeanor, there were so many searches, and I didn't see that.
43:28And as you process complaints and take them to hearing and have results, I think it's important that the public knows what kind of cases are coming to you and what kinds of cases you are considering through the hearing process.
43:44Um I also saw no indication of how many complaints were founded, how many complaints were unfounded, how many complaints there was not enough information to determine.
43:56And again, I think the public needs to have some information about outcomes.
44:02And I know you're just starting up and hearings are coming.
44:07Um but still I think the outcomes need to be there.
44:26And I ask that you discuss those alternatives in a public setting rather than only discuss them behind the scenes.
44:35Because the CRB fought long and hard to get an investigator.
44:39And if you choose to go in a direction that dilutes that, I think that's a discussion that needs to happen in public.
44:47Um you know what I'll have to check with Joe to see whether or not that um how that falls in, uh, whether it does have to go before a public hearing, or is that can be just because it's a it's actually a personnel issue.
45:01So I'll get some clarification on that for you.
45:05Um please do, because if there is something short of hiring an investigator when it's in the budget, I think the public has a right to know.
45:13Um you mentioned that there was going to be a presentation by the police to review data, and it was at the CRB office on February 28th from 10 to 1.
45:23Is that open to the public?
45:26I would suggest that again.
45:29I heard you say that there was going to be a meeting with the police to review police data.
45:36It's with the board.
45:38We're doing a um a presentation to the board about the data.
45:43Not the the police department is not involved in there.
45:46The the police department was that Chris and I are going to meet with uh Chief Rustin um to see about getting data from the police department so we can do that.
45:55I'm sorry if I misheard.
45:57With with with uh the CRB to make sure that things uh we we we can pick up patterns that are happening because getting data from the police department is very important, and then using our data to correlate between the two.
46:12So I just if you're gonna discuss data trends, patterns not tied to an individual.
46:19I would suggest that that discussions should be public.
46:22So even if you're just gonna be discussing the data that is evolving that is available to you, is that thing on the February 28th from 10 to 1 to be open to the public?
46:35Well, and basically what it is is to is uh allow the board to understand how the data looks and how to read the data, um how we uh uh get to that point.
46:46Um so I don't know if it's gonna be open to the public.
46:49Again, I'll have to um get legal counsel on whether or not when we're doing the training, what training has to be open to the public and what training can be held in-house without having to be exposed to the public.
47:03Is it a training or is it a review of data?
47:12Then we put it out to the public.
47:15I I think the public would be quite interested in that.
47:18Um and since you only meet once a month and it's on February 28th, I asked to find out if that's something that can be publicly transparent.
47:27Um you got a data analyst.
47:29That is fantastic, and I'm thrilled he's coming up with stuff that you'll be able to use, but the public also may want to know about that.
47:38Um, it should be presented at the follow-up March meeting.
47:42That would be certainly an option, but not just behind closed doors, please.
47:48Um there is a translating your educational materials into other languages is fantastic.
47:56It's a great idea, and I think it's necessary because of the fear in our immigrant and refugee community right now.
48:02However, there is a cost to translate documents accurately, and you can't just do that because somebody speaks a language.
48:11There's specific terminology involved.
48:14So I was wondering do you have a cost for interpretation and translation in your budget?
48:20And if not, how will you deal with that cost?
48:24And are there resources within the city, including the city's Title VI coordinator that can help you with that?
48:33Also, if you're wondering what languages, talk to DSS.
48:37They maintain a list of the majority of languages that are spoken and the percentages of people that uh seek DSS services in the languages they speak.
48:50Um I heard very quickly from Mike about and and you did a motion and enacted uh the formation of a seven-person oversight review board.
49:02And all I heard was that that group would review your bylaws and make recommendations.
49:09Is that group also gonna be taking a look at the legislation to see if you have any recommendations for amendments?
49:17I just didn't hear it.
49:18It went too quickly.
49:20And uh that that that board would actually, or that committee would actually overlook um the whole gamut, both the legislation and the the bylaws and any changes that need to be made.
49:32Um I mean, we're we're just in the fledgling state right now, so uh as we get closer to deciding how how that board is going to be made up, who's gonna be made up of, um, we'll be definitely making sure that the public is involved in in getting that done.
49:49Thank you for the clarification.
50:00Uh I just wanted to uh give a quick clarification about uh some of the questions that you had, uh specifically about the annual report about what is or is not gonna be in it.
50:05Uh the sustain rate uh is gonna be in the annual.
50:10Um those will be in it going forward.
50:13Um I in the report, the sustain rate and then also the different types of cases going forward.
50:20Um when we initially were starting out that spreadsheet had not been created yet and it has been created now, so going forward we will be able to do that.
50:35Yeah, yeah, and uh yeah.
50:37So I think on on Chris on the data, I I led uh on Washington Seattle uh uh CRB.
50:47And they do something like a feedback for f from the community to hear from the community.
50:53Well so this is very important for the accountability.
50:57Maybe it's something we can duplicate here in Syracuse and create like uh like a survey, you know, to hear from the public.
51:06And that survey cannot cost us money because Adonia can go in the community and have people correct, you know, show them how to enter the information.
51:17So it's just a suggestion, you know.
51:20I led it and I saw uh this is very important.
51:23I don't know if it can help the CRB, I just don't know.
51:28Interesting enough, I'm glad you brought that point up.
51:31So when a Donia uh and I or whoever puts on um uh meetings in the in the community.
51:39Well field events, one of the things we do, we do have a survey.
51:43Um that we have people fill out about um some of their concerns, um what's some of the things that they'd like to see done.
51:52Um and the last one we had which was at uh the pet at uh um the library um with the NAACP uh monthly meeting a lot of questions that uh wanted to be answered.
52:08So and every time we get those we sort of add those to our survey.
52:12So we keep building out the survey to make sure that uh the people in the community, if they have questions, that we get those questions answered for them and that um any time we put on a presentation we address those issues for the community at large.
52:27So any other um comments from the uh the committee out there, citizen.
52:41Any um any other thing that the board wants to talk about?
52:47If not, um make a motion or so have someone make a motion that uh we go into executive session?
52:56I'll move that we go into executive session.
52:59Okay, can I get a second?
53:03Oh uh to review cases.
53:06To review the cases now.
53:12Yeah, those pending case uh we we need to get a motion to uh go into executive session to remove to review the um caseload for pending cases.
53:28Do we have to say it again?
53:30I move that we go into executive session to review cases.
53:38There's been a motion on the floor to go into executive session.
53:42Uh can I get a second?
53:51Motion carry, we're going into executive session, and then once the executive session is over, we'll come back out and uh close out the meeting.
54:03And that's exactly what it is.