Okay.

No.

No.

It's on the other side, so there's two sides.

On the piece of paper.

Oh, it's got cases.

Today's a full day.

Okay.

Maybe that's why Michelle is.

Get started.

Do you have any fell out?

I mean the 13th.

Not gonna mention that, but this is now if that's the worst thing that happens here else.

We're in good shape.

Okay.

Good morning, everyone.

It is Friday, February 13th.

What do you got for time?

It is 9056.

906, a little bit late.

Apologize.

This is a little uh different setup today because uh the common council chambers was uh uh booked uh by another um party.

Uh so we'll do the best we can in here.

Um it is being recorded, but it's not uh live uh because there's something uh there's there's a uh something being recorded live in the common council chambers.

Uh so with that it'll be able to be viewed at a later date.

Uh how quick do they put it up?

It'll probably be up uh because of the holiday, it'll either be up Tuesday to Wednesday.

Tuesday to Wednesday is it would be the earliest, but because it's such a long video, she said that it could take a day to get it up.

Okay, so Tuesday or Wednesday of next week.

Um everything will be back to normal uh uh next week uh uh with Tuesday's session.

Uh okay, so let me uh just do a roll call.

My name is Joe Saya.

Carl Masterpol.

William Apollito.

Bill Ryan.

Okay, thank you very much.

And uh so it looks like uh uh on the sheet we have 2108-22 Erie Boulevard East.

Here we have 21 uh 12 Erie Boulevard East, I assume it's the same thing.

Yeah, 212 is probably what they go by 200.

That one's the legal description in the what we have on the sheet.

Yes.

All right.

That sounds good, and it looks like uh the petitioners here.

Yeah.

Okay.

Do you want to come on up to the do you want them up here?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Sorry, everybody's gonna be close to gathering today.

Whoever's talking the most set closer to the body top.

Okay.

All right.

Yeah.

So if you're if you're gonna, yeah, yeah, just absolutely have a seat, and uh I know it's closed quarters.

That's okay.

Um I'll swear you in one second.

Um, that's fine.

No, no worries.

Um, so you're here for 2108-22 Uri Boulevard East and Bruce Street.

Yeah.

Okay.

All right.

Uh let me just take a look here.

Okay.

Uh I'm gonna swear both of you in and then as well as Ann.

Okay, initially here.

Um, so if you could raise your right hands, state your name for the record.

You have your sheet.

Oh, yeah.

I'm sorry, go ahead.

Sabura's money.

Okay, I'm on it.

Okay.

And Gallagher.

Okay.

Uh do you firm to tell the truth and give accurate information to the best of your ability?

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

I do.

Okay, very good.

All right.

Um, we just swear in and initially in the morning.

Um so it's not where it's you know, with every petitioner.

Uh okay.

So let me just take this here.

Let me read the property in and a little pertinent information, and then uh then we'll take it from there.

Uh again, 2112 Erie Boulevard East.

Uh we have a current tenant of assessed value, just want to confirm these uh 570,300 with a land value of 110,600.

Uh petitioner believes the uh fair market value is 300,000, so that would be an uh equatable assessed value of 156,000 dollars.

Um and apparently the uh the uh reason for the 300,000 uh request is due to a robbery and insurance, full demolition of the building.

The whole interior has been demoed.

We brought some pictures as well.

Okay, so what happened was um there was some raw some people who got in and cut copper pipes throughout the whole building.

What I mean just what is it?

Is it a commercial building or an office building?

So we were converting it into medical offices, and once you're I think you've been in here before, if I can remember correctly, last year, and that was just for the grievance that wasn't this situation.

No, no, no.

This so this happened in August, and over the weekend the building was closed up, there was no work happening, and some people managed to get into the building and cut copper pipes while the water was running, and we had come back, I believe on Monday or Tuesday, and the whole building was flooded.

Um the whole building is about 20,000 square feet, one level had about two feet of water in it, and the basement had eight feet, you couldn't even go downstairs.

And so with that, mold spread everywhere, and it was just a mess.

We have pictures as well.

Yeah, could we take a look at those?

Yeah.

And what's the situation?

So that was in August.

Yes.

What's the situation now?

Now they said everyone whoever blueprints, we were thinking, you know, maybe we can disclose because they are still doing the remediation, and the remediation company insurance paid them L1 update now, but still it's not clear yet.

Yes.

So according to everybody, it's just a land value, which is not new, so we just put it 300.

So they said no, it's just the land, you know.

Who said that?

So we have some letters from our uh TJ Nyland, he's uh president of an island uh insurance adjusting, and we also have a letter.

Yeah, and we also have a letter from uh Kelsey Shannon, he's our attorney who's handling the case.

And you know, the building is gone, it's just a shed, and the ES liar is not clear, and I don't know how much money they need to spend more.

Still mold in there, is that the problem?

Well, yeah, so there so that these pictures uh they're from when the basic incident first happened, and we're not able to go in because there's still mold in there and stuff, and they're still remediating it.

They started this job in about September, and they're still going at it, and they so far the insurance company has spent 1.2 million dollars in remediation, but they're still not done.

And it's pretty much just the shell of the building.

I mean, inside there's there's nothing.

And and and this which type of building is this?

So it's it's a commercial property.

It was it was an accounting office, there's little offices, and we were in the process of converting it to medical offices, like exam rooms and stuff like that.

I don't have the letter from TJ Nylon.

I didn't we have it digitally if I could pull them up.

I've got a note from him.

Oh, that's okay.

So who's the person that put the 300,000 value up?

So that was us, but after we had put that down, we talked to uh TJ and Kelsey Shannon, and they said that that's not true.

They said it's just worth the land value.

They said the building has no value to it.

Well, I don't know about that.

That's that's in their world, not in our world.

So I can't we can't even get in it to take a look at it, correct?

Yeah, is that what you're saying?

You can't get in it.

I mean there's still mold inside and stuff.

Right, but I guess the assessors want to get in there.

We can't go in there because of the mold.

Yes.

Yeah, it's not really safe.

They're not really letting us go in either.

They're saying it's not safe for us to go in.

I mean, I'm sure if you guys like suit it up and stuff, they would let you guys go in by, I don't know.

Yeah, well, I'm not doing that.

Yeah, I wouldn't recommend it.

Uh but they said according to them, if nothing is inside.

Just well, yeah, but you got the structure.

So obviously that's worth something.

Yeah, right.

So they're still assessing if they're they're trying to check because they found in the basement there's some crawl spaces and mold is traveled underneath there as well.

So at that point it's underneath the building.

We don't know where it's traveled to, and so they really are not sure.

Okay.

This doesn't have the uh uh uh full uh uh market value on here.

Any chance of getting one of these with the full market value?

Um it doesn't have that category.

Yeah, uh I think they well don't they have three hundred and then the claim to see.

Yeah, but the city uh the full market value based on our that's what I figured, but we probably should have and they paid.

Okay.

They paid uh nine fifty and um uh twenty-three twenty.

And if I can interrupt, are you Mango brothers?

Yes, yeah, she's the one.

And when we came like uh a year and a half ago, um uh at that time you had a question why I paid that much money, and I told them that our company, you know, my husband's business was a guarantor for that, which I brought in this tatter at last time.

I was not able to bring it.

And uh because there was not much parking spot, so that's why we get it.

This one and also we were able to get it, you know, to help because this area was you know more desirable due to the homeless people and all those things, they were not covering, you know.

So we decided to go there, but these the homeless people they destroy us.

Yes, yes, yes.

Well, do you know who did it?

We're assuming it was the homeless people, but we're not sure.

Yeah, you didn't have security or anything.

No, at that time, no.

No.

Uh and uh well, yeah.

I don't know how many homeless people have uh tools and all that good stuff, so be careful about uh uh you know uh suggesting that I guess uh just my opinion.

Um but uh um was it uh you were operating at that time, correct?

We were doing construction.

You okay, so you so you haven't started uh you you didn't start uh actually serving the public yet.

No.

Uh not now, of course, but back in August you were still uh under construction.

We intended on opening up the practice and stuff, like October, maybe early November at latest.

Okay.

So we were we were kind of getting close to the finish line.

Yeah, oh my god.

Well that's terrible.

Yeah, terrible.

Um, anything you want to I guess um I those are in from August.

I guess we'll have to um uh basically imagine that it's now just a shell, but we uh I'll have to go over that and uh um take a look at the pictures and um maybe make maybe make a recommendation.

I you know obviously we can't get in there to verify everything, and you don't have any current pictures of the sh interior being a shell, right?

Okay, if you want to thump through these, they're uh and then this sheet here you wanted to give this.

Is just saying that the property is not able to sustain itself, and uh my father has the guarantee the property mortgage and everything, you know.

Okay, I mean would what it would and that's pertinent for what that was you know question was last year that why you have paid the high amount you know that wasn't that she was asked last year why she paid so much for the property, I guess.

Okay, and what's that kind of it was still there, so I just bring it.

Okay, okay.

No, it's okay.

Uh so your husband is guaranteeing uh the law.

Yeah, uh and uh okay, that's that's fine.

Okay, that's no problem.

Um I was asking more last year about you know uh why we might have paid uh uh and I'm not sure why it might have been just something that we were talking about last year um as to why uh uh oh I know why.

Um you you paid 950, I think, and you were coming in asking for something lower.

And I must have said why you know do you think it's now not worth what you paid for it?

And I still have that question.

Yeah, no, that was that easy and why it was a good idea.

No, I understand that.

Uh I understand the current condition.

Yeah, um, but uh, but anyway, let's not get into the weeds.

Um you're not comfortable with going inside and all that good stuff.

So you're you're gonna yeah, I take the pictures into consideration.

I'll I'll take a look and maybe make a re recommendation and go from there.

Okay, and then it's up to you guys, but okay, obviously it's in bad shape.

Yeah, that's that's terrible.

Are there people in there with you now doing media?

There are people in the room.

We could have to get some pictures, right?

Yeah.

I that would help a lot.

If I can't do it, was there even a window she could look in and just see that it's gutted?

I mean something, so we can verify it that way.

Yeah, I mean if they can if they can get in there, if they're in there and they're suited up, take a couple pictures.

I I'd really like to see what it looks like now.

Okay, if if possible.

So then Michelle can give you an email to email it to us once you want somebody grabs those pictures.

So yeah, and if you can that's that's good if we can do that, and if you can try to have those back uh uh to us by next Friday, yeah, that would be good because that appears to be the last day that we'll be in session.

Okay, okay.

Um so that would be very good, and these are okay for us to keep for the file.

Okay, uh, and all we kept was pictures and then the note from uh uh Mr.

Nyland and then uh the Lin Law firm also.

Yeah, sure.

That's terrible.

Um I'll tell you.

And so you were working on the building, and then uh people see it under construction, so they broke in and so on and so forth.

Terrible.

Um we're insured up to four million, but the insurance is giving us a really difficult time.

We're not really sure why, that's why we hired TJ Island.

Yeah, well, I hope so.

Even TJ said that he said this is the most difficult case he had in his life.

Those are his words.

And he's done all the big cases.

He does.

And they paid, you know, one two for the mediation, and still they are going to pay.

And he said in that amount, we are not gonna be able to come back, you know, even to finish off the room.

Yeah, it's because I mean all the electrical is shot, HVAC is gone.

So this is the first floor, yeah.

Yeah, I mean the whole building's just one floor.

High up with the water.

Uh probably up to that water line.

Oh, I see it there, okay.

Yeah, and then if you go down to the basement, you could see the water.

So that's the basement.

It came all the way up to the second floor.

Or all that pays feeling great there.

Yeah.

Wow, that's what'll happen when water runs for several days.

Yeah, amazing.

Who's the insurance carrier?

Um finger leaks.

Yeah.

We are at time.

Yep.

Okay.

All right.

That sounds good.

All right.

Well, thank you very much for coming in.

Thank you for the information.

Uh and uh we're sorry that happened, certainly.

Um, and we will take everything that you presented uh as well as uh the pictures that you send just to confirm that would be very important, so don't drop the ball on that.

You know, definitely get those taken and sent in.

Okay.

So Michelle will give you the email address.

And uh uh and then the city will send a notice uh first week in April.

Sounds good, for sure.

So we have to phone ink button, not the pictures.

You can send the email to for the pictures, all right.

Yeah, and then she'll get them over to uh uh the assessor as well as us, and uh uh it would be good for us to confirm that.

Okay, great.

Yeah, all right, but I'm very sorry that happened.

It's it's just unbelievable.

Yeah, they moved here, I guess.

Yeah, make it building stuff.

So you know what I mean.

Was that you know what I mean?

You know what I mean?

Just a couple.

This thing is a pain in the end.

Thank you very much.

You sure you mean that?

No, I'm just saying not here.

I just this thing here.

I can't back up much.

Yeah, you can just vote for that.

All right, let's see here.

Yes, yes, it is.

Again, broken rubber band for the hand.

It's all good.

I don't know.

I think I might Uber home.

Yeah.

Okay.

Let's get these out of here.

Okay, if you want to come on up, these are you're up next, I assume.

Okay.

Good morning, how are you?

You could sit in that one closer to the microphone.

Oh, yeah, yeah, that'd be great.

Sorry for the uh uh crazy quarters here today.

Okay.

We just get to sit closer together, right?

Yes, exactly.

Um bunch of properties, uh all different uh where are you from?

Is this destiny?

This is okay.

All right.

Um so uh probably the same argument on all of them.

Um yeah, as in past years, I would say.

Okay.

These all in litigation?

Um I believe they are.

I believe um two three years two or two years of an issue.

Here's a list of them that goes from here to what's it going down to?

Which one?

Um Hiawafa.

401 West High Watch.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

So here's a thought.

Um square you in opening statement.

I'll read them all in.

Uh and then turn it back over to you.

If there's anything specific about a property as I'm going through, it'd be good to interject that at that time.

Okay.

Okay.

Sounds good.

And uh, and then we'll go over to Ann, then we'll come back to you and be in good shape, I think.

Yeah.

Um, so if you could raise your right hand, state your name for the record.

Lauren Weber.

Do you affirm to tell the truth and give accurate information to the best of your ability?

I do.

Okay, very good.

Uh all right, very good.

Yeah, and so these are probably in the same order that's on the sheet, so I'm assuming that'd be okay to go in that order.

Sure, yes.

Okay.

All right, very good.

Uh okay, so we have 931 North Clinton Street.

Uh this property is vacant industrial parcel and the former site of oil or uh storage tanks.

Current tentative assessed value of three million uh three hundred thousand with a land value of three million three hundred thousand.

Uh we have a market value based on that figure of six million three hundred and forty-six thousand one hundred and fifty-four dollars.

Uh petitioner believes the fair market value is five hundred and forty thousand dollars, and that would be an assessed value of two hundred and eighty thousand eight hundred and fifty-two percent, I mean it's I'm not gonna basically say much because it is in litigation, so but yeah, let's do it as we go.

I mean it's I'm not gonna basically say much because it is in litigation, so yeah, let's do it as we go.

Yeah, absolutely.

That'd be great.

Thank you very much.

I mean, I could say a lot, but it's Friday the thirteenth.

I'm not gonna, you know.

Orange Closed Quarters.

Yes.

I uh would tend to agree with that.

Uh 901 North Clinton Street.

Uh current tenative assessed value, one million six hundred thousand dollars with a land value of one million six hundred thousand dollars.

Uh that would be that would be a market value of three million seventy-six thousand nine hundred and twenty-three dollars.

Petitioner believes the fair market value is five hundred and forty-three thousand dollars, and that would be an equitable assessed value of two hundred and eighty-two thousand three hundred and sixty dollars at fifty-two percent.

Four oh one, yes, I'm sorry.

Sorry, sorry.

It's missing four hundred there.

Yeah, four hundred, I'm sorry, four hundred West Bear Street.

Uh this property is a small vacant commercial parcel adjacent to Destiny USA with limited development.

And I don't think I read a description of the last one.

So uh the last one, nine hundred one North Clinton Street, uh property is vacant commercial parcel.

Okay.

Uh going back to four hundred West Bear Street.

Uh current tentative assessed value is six thousand dollars with a land value of six thousand dollars.

Uh that would be a fair market value of eleven thousand five hundred and thirty-eight dollars.

Petitioner believes the fair market value is seven hundred uh seven thousand four hundred forty-one dollars, and that would be an assessed value of uh three thousand uh eight hundred and sixty-nine dollars at fifty-two percent.

And now the FOR mentioned four hundred one West Bear School.

Uh property is a small vacant commercial parcel adjacent to Destiny USA with limited development.

Uh current tenative assessed value forty-nine thousand five hundred with a land value of forty-nine thousand five hundred.

And that would be a market value of ninety-five thousand one hundred and ninety-two dollars.

Petitioner believes the fair market value is thirteen thousand one hundred dollars, and that would be an equitable assessed value of six thousand eight hundred twelve dollars at fifty-two percent.

Six thousand eight hundred and twelve dollars.

This property is vacant industrial parcel, uh, and the site of a former oil former oil company.

Uh current tenant of assessed value, three hundred and ninety-two thousand dollars with a land value of three hundred and ninety-two thousand dollars.

That would be a market value of seven hundred and fifty-three thousand eight hundred and forty-six dollars.

Petitioner believes the fair market value is a hundred and twenty thousand dollars, and that would be an assessed value of sixty-two thousand four hundred at fifty-two percent.

Uh nine sixty-seven North Clinton Street.

Property is vacant industry industrial parcel.

Current tentative assessed value, two million two hundred and twenty thousand dollars with a land value of two million two hundred and twenty thousand dollars.

That would be a market value of four million two hundred and sixty-nine thousand two hundred and thirty-one dollars.

Petitioner believes the fair market value is six hundred and eighty thousand dollars, and that would be an assessed value of three hundred and fifty-three thousand six hundred dollars.

And in each file, the city is giving me uh their information as well.

Yes, yes, land sales.

Yes, land sales, uh the city is given uh uh land sale information on each uh uh parcel.

Uh okay, two forty-five West Bear Street.

Property is vacant industrial parcel and is the undevelopable uh site of a former or former oil company.

Uh current tenative assessed value $122,000 with a land value of $122,000.

That would be a market value of $234,615.

Uh petitioner believes the fair market value is a hundred thousand dollars, and that would be an assessed value of fifty-two thousand dollars at fifty-two percent.

470 Solar Street.

This property is vacant industrial parcel and the former site of oil storage tanks, current tenative assessed value two million three hundred and three thousand dollars with a land value of two million three hundred and three thousand dollars.

That would be a market value of four million, four hundred twenty-eight thousand, eight hundred and forty-six dollars.

Uh petitioner believes the fair market value is eight hundred and fifty-five thousand dollars, and that would be an assessed value of forty-four thousand six hundred dollars at fifty-two percent.

We have some fabulous coffee if you'd like some.

Oh, maybe a little bit.

That was a very long time.

Oh my god.

The first person that said yes to coffee.

She did say a little bit of street.

It's fabulous.

And Michelle's the one that makes it, so give her the accolades if you like.

I will for sure.

You got it.

Thank you.

Thank you.

No problem.

Sorry, I don't have screamer or anything.

That's okay.

It was a lock drive.

Yeah, you just, yep, there you go.

You can and you can open it right up if you like.

Uh okay, $475 Solar Street Rear.

Uh this property is vacant industrial parcel with no road access.

Current tentative assessed value, $118,000 with a land value of $118,000.

That would be an assessed.

Uh, I'm sorry, that would be a full market value of $226,923.

$226,923.

Uh petitioner believes the fair market value is $40,000.

Uh, and that would be an assessed value of $20,800 at $52.

Fabulous the right word.

Yes.

All right.

Beautiful.

Fabulous is the right word.

Okay.

Desperation.

All right.

Well, I wouldn't, I wouldn't say that on the back.

It is Friday the 13th.

Uh $475 Solar Street.

Property is vacant industrial parcel.

Current tentative assessed value, $860,000 with a land value of $860,000.

Uh and let me go to that would be a full market value of one million six hundred and fifty-three thousand eight hundred and forty-six dollars.

Petitioner believes the fair market value is three hundred and thirty thousand dollars, and that would be an assessed value of a hundred and seventy-one thousand six hundred dollars.

Property is vacant industrial parcel and is the former site of oil uh oil storage tanks.

Current tenant of assessed value one million five hundred and thirty-five thousand dollars with a land value of one million five hundred and thirty-five thousand dollars.

That would be a market value of two million nine hundred and fifty-one thousand nine hundred and twenty-three dollars.

Petitioner believes the fair market value is four hundred and seventy thousand dollars, and that would be an assessed value of two hundred and forty-four thousand four hundred dollars at fifty-two percent.

So just one comment for the record.

All of those parcels collectively determine the vacant parcels as opposed to um the other set of parcels, which are the parking parcels.

Okay, that's all.

Okay, very good.

Okay, two hundred West Fair Street.

Vacant land adjacent to parking lots for Destiny USA with billboard.

Current tenant of assessed value one million sixty dollars, sixty thousand dollars with a land value of nine hundred and thirty-five thousand dollars.

That would be a market value of two million thirty-eight thousand four hundred and sixty-two dollars.

Uh petitioner believes the fair market value is two hundred and thirteen thousand nine hundred dollars, and that would be an assessed value of uh one hundred and eleven thousand two hundred and twenty-eight dollars at fifty-two percent.

Can I just ask if is there income derived off of that billboard?

Um I believe so.

Yeah, income, I think is exhibit A.

Okay.

Okay.

Yeah, um, let's see what's it okay.

Um right on here the the billboard leases over here.

And that's more for just the purpose, but it's always spent in the they're all over the board, sure.

Thank you.

I liked it.

Okay.

Okay, uh two fifty West Bear Street.

Vacant land adjacent to parking lots for Destiny USA with small billboard.

Current tenant of assessed value eight hundred and twenty-four thousand dollars with a land value of seven hundred and forty-four thousand dollars.

That would be a market value of one million five hundred and eighty-four thousand six hundred and fifteen dollars.

Uh petitioner believes the fair market value is a hundred and eighty-three thousand six hundred dollars.

That would be a uh assessed value of ninety-five thousand four hundred and seventy-two dollars at fifty-two percent.

Three hundred West Bear Street.

Property is vacant land adjacent to parking lots for Destiny USA and the site of a former oil company.

Current tenant of assessed value, two million dollars with a land value of two million dollars.

That would be a full market value of three million eight hundred and forty-six thousand one hundred and fifty-four dollars.

Petitioner believes the fair market value is five hundred and sixty-two thousand nine hundred dollars, and that would be an assessed value of two hundred and ninety-two thousand seven hundred and eight dollars at fifty-two percent.

Thank you.

Property is dedicated parking for Destiny USA.

Current tenant of assessed value, one million seven hundred and two thousand dollars with a land value of one thousand one million five hundred and two thousand dollars.

That would be a market value of three million two hundred and seventy-three thousand seventy-seven dollars.

Petitioner believes the fair market value is four hundred thousand dollars, and that would be an equatable assessed value of uh two hundred and eight uh thousand dollars at fifty-two percent, five oh two solar street.

Property is vacant, industrial land, uh current tenant of assessed value eight hundred and sixty-nine thousand dollars with a land value of eight hundred and sixty-nine thousand dollars.

Uh that would be a market value of one million six hundred and seventy-one thousand one hundred and fifty-four dollars.

Petitioner believes the fair market value is two hundred and thirteen thousand five hundred dollars.

Uh that would be an assessed value of one hundred and eleven thousand dollars at fifty-two percent.

Properties dedicated parking for Destiny USA, current tenant of assessed value two million nine hundred and fifty-seven thousand dollars with a land value of two million eight hundred and fifty-seven thousand dollars.

That would be a market value of five million six hundred and eighty-six thousand five hundred and thirty-eight dollars.

Petitioner believes the fair market value is six hundred and sixty thousand dollars, and that would be an assessed value of three hundred and forty-three thousand two hundred dollars at fifty-two percent.

Thank you.

Property is dedicated parking for Destiny USA.

Current tenant of assessed value of one million eight hundred and eighty-six thousand dollars with a land value of one million seven hundred and eighty-six thousand dollars.

Uh that would be a fair market value of three million six hundred and twenty-six thousand nine hundred and twenty-three dollars.

Petitioner believes the fair market value is four hundred and seventeen thousand eight hundred dollars.

That would be an equatable assessed value of two hundred and seventeen thousand two hundred and fifty-six dollars at fifty-two percent.

Property is dedicated parking for Destiny USA.

Current tenant of assessed value one million three hundred and seventy thousand dollars with a land value of one million one hundred and seventy thousand dollars.

That would be a market value of two million six hundred and thirty-four thousand six hundred and fifteen dollars.

Petitioner believes the fair market value is two hundred and seventy thousand dollars, and that would be an assessed value of a hundred and forty thousand four hundred dollars at fifty-two percent.

$541 Solar Street Properties Dedicated Parking Destiny USA.

Current tenant of assessed value one million three hundred and seventy-five thousand dollars with a land value of one million one hundred and seventy-five thousand dollars.

That would be a market value of two million six hundred and forty-four thousand two hundred and thirty-one dollars.

Petitioner believes the fair market value is uh two hundred and seventy thousand dollars, which would be an assessed value of a hundred and forty thousand four hundred at fifty-two percent.

Let's take a look.

Okay.

Uh you gave me five forty-one, which is what it should be.

Okay.

Uh 5501 solar street.

Property is dedicated parking for Destiny USA.

Current tenant of assessed value, two million and twenty thousand dollars.

Uh land value one million eight hundred and twenty thousand dollars.

And that would be an assessed value of three million eight hundred and eighty-four thousand six hundred and fifteen dollars.

Petitioner believes the fair market value is four hundred and twenty-one thousand nine hundred dollars, which would be an equitable assessed value of two hundred and nineteen thousand three hundred and eighty-eight dollars at fifty-two percent.

Five sixty-one solar street.

Property is dedicated parking lot for Destiny USA.

Current tenant of assessed value two million one hundred thousand dollars with a land value of one million nine hundred thousand dollars.

And that would be a market value of four million thirty-eight thousand four hundred and sixty-two dollars.

Uh petitioner believes the fair market value is four hundred and fifty-five thousand seven hundred dollars.

Uh that would be an equitable assessed value of two hundred and thirty-six thousand nine hundred and sixty-four dollars at fifty-two percent.

Properties dedicated parking lot for Destiny USA.

Current tenant of assessed value two million one hundred thousand dollars with a land value of one million eight hundred and thirty thousand dollars.

That would be a market value of four million thirty-eight thousand four hundred and sixty-two dollars.

Uh petitioner believes the fair market value is four hundred and fifteen thousand four hundred dollars, and that would be an equitable assessed value of two hundred and sixteen thousand dollars at uh fifty-two percent.

And that group of parcels we refer to as parking parcels.

You refer to as what the parking parcels.

Parking parcels.

Okay.

Uh right.

And the where does it start off as far as parking parcels?

Um parking parcels.

Oh, let's see, on your list.

What's that?

Number thirteen two twenty.

Okay.

So that's good to note uh two hundred West Bear Street.

Two hundred west there, yep.

Right on down through four hundred West Hiawatha Boulevard West.

401.

401, I'm sorry.

Lots of numbers today.

Yeah, I don't know why I did that twice, but uh okay.

It's very scientific here, as you can tell.

So you know we know exactly what we're doing.

Uh and your coffee is fabulous.

Thank you very much.

Those accolades are just coming, Michelle.

They're not gonna stop.

That's right.

Keep telling her.

This way she'll keep making the coffee.

Uh okay.

So um so uh would you like uh an all-encompassing statement at the end of this?

That's fine, yeah.

Yeah.

Do you want to add anything or um well I think that what we've set forth in the affidavit and in the additional exhibits that we provided in response to your letter?

Um pretty much sums up the two sets of parcels.

So as you know, all of the parcels have um uh probably a significant level of environmental concern, um as as they were part of oil city, right?

Um the parking parcels section, um, which is the latter half of your list, um, those are obviously tied to the shopping center as a whole.

So those ones are reserved parking that has to be reserved for overflow parking.

Um we have been able to put up some billboards on some of the parcels, and some of the parcels can be used um, for example, for state fair overflow parking.

Um, but we are pretty limited as to what we can do with those parking parcels because they have to be safe for overflow parking.

Um so they're not currently used unless necessary.

Correct.

A lot of them are not.

Um the vacant parcels are of course are completely vacant.

Um I I believe there are some parcels that are that have been put up for sale.

Um three of them.

Um those are 478 solar, nine thirty-one and nine sixty-seven North Clinton, and then another parcel tied to that address.

Um, but those have generated you know, no offers and and they're still not sold.

What's the asking prices on those?

You know, I don't actually have that information, but I can I can get it and give it to you if you're interested in it.

Yeah, yeah.

I'd be curious as to what they're asking versus the assessed value and so on and so forth.

Yeah, I can definitely get that for you.

And Michelle will give you the email address.

She's got it written down, I think.

So uh that would be helpful just you know uh you know uh as to what uh uh uh the powers that be are thinking it's worth versus you know claimed assessed value and what have you.

Perfect.

Okay.

Uh anything else you want to add?

Um no, I don't think so.

Unless you have any specific questions for me.

Okay, and I just um submitted numerous land sales that uh we did take a look at the obviously the main mall last year, and and we did review, but we lowered the mall, but we are we're steady with the land values over there.

So and we're all in litigation, so I guess it's on the so you're comfortable where you're at at this point given uh uh what transpired last year with the mall and uh uh being in litigation and and all that good stuff.

Yep.

Okay, anybody else have any other questions?

Anything you want to add other than the wonderful coffee.

Well, thank you for being so hospitable.

I appreciate it.

Absolutely, of course.

Um Michelle will give you her email address for uh those uh prices asking prices and uh definitely appreciate you coming in today.

Yeah, and if there's anything else that you you think you need, reach out to me and let me know.

I got it.

Okay.

Thank you very much.

Okay, you got that.

Did you want to add when you need the sales by if possible, thank you?

If possible by next Friday.

Um because uh probably probably will be the last day that we uh are hearing, and we we kind of as a practice try to keep uh uh receipt of all materials by that day as well.

Sure.

Yes, that would be helpful.

No problem.

Okay, all right, beautiful.

Thank you.

Thank you all so much.

I appreciate it.

Thank you.

I agree with you.

You too.

by next Friday because uh that probably probably will be the last day that we uh are hearing and we we kind of as a practice try to keep uh uh receipt of all materials by that day as well sure so that would be helpful no problem okay all right beautiful thank you thank you all so much I appreciate it thank you you too pull back in today yes okay uh so I guess that brings us up to I don't know what time it is but uh time o'clock ten o'clock now yeah oh wow and that brings us up to ahead of schedule well the reason why I asked is because I didn't know if we had a buffer here or the next people are coming um if it's 10 o'clock now it's like 10 minutes but we'll see about that.

Okay.

So all right so Michelle and bees if anybody wants to take a bathroom break or whatever please feel free.

And uh you know I did want to say uh I I did some uh last night at the uh my office I did just kind of some tentative mapping out um and I think