I want to remind everybody that this is a story session and public comment is not entertained in this session.

All right.

With that said, moving on.

Um let me see what we got here.

Um Councillor Aaron Rick and Counselor McGook.

Williams and Monto.

Who's gonna take this?

Aaron Bike?

Sure.

I uh am introducing the local law of the city of Syracuse to opt in the good cause eviction law.

Okay.

Okay, thank you.

Oh, then me.

Resolution approving of women to buy your experience, commissioners of these the do is that ready?

Okay, so for uh one day our regular meeting, thank you.

Council Codwell.

Thank you.

Um bless us uh today.

Item number 10.

Good afternoon, council.

Um item 10 is to enter an agreement with iSolve talent acquisition, which used to be called Applicant Pro.

Um, and we are looking to kind of bridge the gap between now and we have when we have our own applicant tracking system.

Um and I'm not sure if you've heard uh Indeed has kind of uh down a little bit.

Yeah, so we used to have unlimited posting, we don't, we can only post three jobs a month now, um, which is we have 90 vacancies that we need to fill.

Um so teaming with iSolve will help us not necessarily sidestep that, but paying iSolved gives us full access to indeed job posting plus 300 plus more or 300 plus more job boards, is what I was trying to say.

I apologize.

Um so that monies would help us A advertise, but also B manage our applicant pool until um we go go live with uh UKG and they're aware of that situation that they are not a long-term solution.

Um they're just here to help us get bridge the gap to UKG.

And it would be a two-day let's be generous, three day setup to get us up and running for them.

I have a question.

Sure.

Um I work in workforce development at Northeast Community Center.

Do you guys send um job openings to the different organizations in our community that help people find jobs?

Currently there is limited selection.

Um right now we're working heavy with New York State, the their DOL um to get our jobs posted there because Indeed came down, but um that's our goal, but not being able to get to the wide audience of Indeed is the first problem, and then I understand, but I I think that um we could put together a listserv of local agencies that are working with people that are looking for work to try to help them get jobs within our city.

Yeah, absolutely.

So if you want, I'll work with you on that.

Okay, yeah, that'd be great.

Okay.

Yeah, I'll take any help I can get.

Thank you.

Any other questions?

Thank you.

Counselor Cole.

Well, Councilor McGuck.

Thank you.

Thank you, Madam President.

I have item eleven to 16.

Good afternoon, Counselors.

Mary Robison, City Engineer.

Item 11 through 13 is related to the uh Midland Av paving project from Ostranger Ave to West Seneca Turnpike.

Um we've put this project out to bid.

Um bids came in higher than what we were budgeted for.

Uh so we are using additional local money to fund the shortfall of 620,000.

So we're asking for a bond ordinance.

Um agre amend the agreement with New York State DOT.

We're amending the bond ordinance, amending the agreement with New York State DOT and amending the project authorization to add $620,000 um to the project for a total cost not to exceed $5.286 million.

So the the the state is is designing doing the design.

No, we okay this is which is a tip project, so we're re we do all the work um here with our consultants and it's reimbursable from the state.

But usually there is a little bit of extra tip money, but right now there is no eligible tip money available that I could ask for.

So when when we signed when we signed the initial agreement, the the vendor, which is the consultant, went and did the work and came and realized that they had initially proposed a less amount than what it actually came out to be.

Is that the idea?

Well, the there's the design engineer, which did not go over budget.

The project goes out for a competitive bid for the construction phase with contractors.

Um we were delayed in bidding this project by a year um due to staff shortages at New York State DOT.

Internally here or DOT New York State DOT.

Yep.

Um so that's probably really why um the bids came in higher.

Plus, we did add some cur additional curbing to the project that needed to be done.

What's the name of the consultant?

Uh the apparent low bidder is Nardozi.

I try to look for it in the letter and I couldn't see it.

I'll go check again.

Uh we don't put that information in the letter.

No.

That award goes through the purchase department.

These kind of things happen regularly, right, Barry?

This is the same.

Yeah, unfortunately, I'm usually pretty good at getting additional tip money, but the well is dry.

So I'm I'm sorry, we this amount of money we will complete the full project, or yes.

Oh, okay.

Yep.

And it's still uh I did the math, it's still 70 um percent federal, 13% uh Marchicelli, and 16.

Well, I'm off a percent.

71% federal, 13% Marchicelli, and 16% local.

Okay.

So it's still a decent deal.

And we hope this get finished when?

When would these be done?

This year, hopefully.

This year?

Okay.

So that was 11 through 13.

That's 11 through 13, yes.

And 14.

May I?

Oh, yeah.

Are we on item 14 yet?

We not yet.

Um go ahead, Mayor.

Thank you.

Um, item 14 through 16 are all related to uh design providing design services for two new parking lots.

Um at 115 South Gaddis Street and 1171 West Fayette and Magnolia Street, and um some pedestrian access improvements across the New York Susquehanna and Western Railroad Bridge over South Gaddis Street.

That's the bridge that's currently abandoned.

Um 14 is uh negative or a type two seeker action.

15 is a bond ordinance for 150,000 dollars for the engineering services, and 16 is project authorization for the design.

And this is all related to additional parking for the new um police facility uh West Fayette.

All right, counselor?

All right, I had a couple questions um from concerned citizens about the pump track and our in our utilization of that space as parking temporarily, and if there's any alternative to using that space so we wouldn't have to rework the pump track in the future.

Uh Eric's gonna come up, but we do we are planning to replace the pump track in a different location in that same vicinity.

But I think that's all right, good afternoon, Eric Anis, uh Chief Development Officer.

So counselor, we have had conversations with members of the community and really for the particularly some of the property owners in that immediate vicinity.

Um, you know, the pump track is is an asset recreational asset that we do not want to lose.

That's been part of the conversation with the community um in working with the parks department and as part of some of the designs, really one of the things we're looking to do is um improve upon and create a new pump track opportunity, but it is one that would require the pump track that exists today to be created for the parking, so that would have to be leveled.

But we'll in working with parks, there is uh within the existing area around adjacent to Light Bart Park, we would have the ability to create a new pump track.

Um that conversation is ongoing right now with parks about the way to do that, and we've been engaging with the community on how best to achieve that.

This would be all alongside the West Side Trail that we also have funding and support for that would allow this West Side Trail to connect from downtown into the near West Side neighborhood and then to tip Hill.

So the conversations have been around we don't want to lose the pump track that's there as a recreational asset tied in with the West Side Trail.

Um but to your question, as long as I interpret it correctly.

We've been looking at if there's alternative ways of doing this and how to ensure that we have the sufficient amount of parking that's needed for the new facility.

That we have not been able to identify a way that would allow us to do that while keeping the pump track that's there today.

So essentially, we do have to eliminate the one that is there.

But one of the things too is that it has not been maintained well over the last several years.

It has been more of a volunteer-led effort.

The plan here would be a new pump track established.

Parks would have the ability to maintain it, and it is also something that would be an improved upon more of a destination to bring people in to use that facility.

So but happy to take any questions, but it's something we have been trying to look at it from every angle.

Thank you, Eric.

So Eric, I did I wanted to follow up on that.

Um, as far as the um location, I had sent in um the location just what is that west of um the facility.

Okay, which is um down near the um the stone place.

What's it?

Was it um there's a restaurant there?

Is it Panchitos?

Paragon, across from Paragon.

Okay.

Um there's a lot, part of it is currently a parking space, and then there's majority green space.

I don't know if it's all owned by one person or not, but a portion of it has been advertised for sale for years.

Um, and I sent that to someone, I don't know who, but um, to say, why haven't we looked at this space?

We're renting space from this place, we're renting space from this place, and we have a whole space at in our backyard that's for sale.

Okay.

Um, and I was told that it they looked at it and they was said that it was um uh considered to be too far away.

Okay, it's the same distance as the pump track.

Okay.

Um that's helpful.

I'm not aware of the location further west that you're looking at.

It's something I'll I'll ask for more information about.

Yeah, it's right there by the Ukrainian national home.

Okay, all right.

The Niz East Corridor we call it.

Understood.

Okay, and and so I think that's something we absolutely can take a look at it.

I think to the point I made a moment ago, we we've been really trying to look at this through every angle possible.

That location, I don't believe the Westside Trail extends that far and reaches to that that point.

I think one of the things we've talked about is particularly if you are a bicyclist or you're somebody that would use the pump track, it's really beneficial to have that Westside Trail connected.

No, I'm talking about parking for the police.

I'm sorry, okay, fire.

Yeah, so I'm specifically talking about parking.

And that portion of land is keeping the pump track alone and moving there.

Um, it's for sale.

Like, why wouldn't we?

All right, that's something we'll I I've had the opportunity to also talk and work with SPD on this too.

So I think we will look at that.

We have been trying to assess and look at the options.

Um important piece of it too is I think the pump tracks that there's today is is there's it there's room for improvement.

So we see an opportunity to really make that an even stronger asset than it is today.

So um on understanding there there's some concern about the elimination of it.

We want to make sure that that is um made better, not not worse.

So would you keep us posted with that?

Absolutely.

Okay, yeah.

It it and I think we will go back and we'll take a look again at the site that you're referencing, counselor.

Um, and also try to make sure again, we're trying to also be in keeping with the timing of the building as it gets ready to open and just making sure that we have a path to achieve those goals.

Yeah, if we can hear something before Monday, that would be great.

Okay, yeah, we'll we'll look and then we'll come back to you and share updates before Monday before study session.

All right.

Any other questions?

That would be all for you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Um, Councillor Aaron Bake.

I have items 17 through 26.

I believe they are ready.

Here's Commissioner Bird.

Good afternoon, Council Saisha Bird.

Um, Commissioner Parks and Recks.

Number 17 is to accept a donation from the newly formed Brianna Sewer Foundation.

It's an amount of $50,000 to make upgrades to the Kirk Park indoor basketball um courts, adding some new rims, backboards, some lighting, just some overall makeover of that court.

Aisha, thank you on this one.

You've been working really hard for this.

And um, as everyone knows we love Brianna.

But uh well deserved on that one.

Thank you on that one.

We shall get a visit from her soon.

So I think it's exciting to see a come back, her come back full circle to Syracuse.

So I heard a convocadwell has a request for one-on-one with Brianna.

I used to watch I was closing out even at that time, but I might have played her then.

I don't want to, I don't want no part with Brianna.

She's pretty tall.

Yeah.

Pretty good.

Good player.

So as a district counselor, um, I'm I greatly appreciate you know the efforts that your staff um has done to work with the foundation to to get that um funding in order, and we look forward for more improvements to the park um and to revisit the um conversations around the veterans memorial as well.

Yes, we gotta get that moving.

18, 19, 20, 21, 22, and 23.

Those are all our landscape architectural services.

Um, and I can read each one of them which companies.

So 18 is agreement with Bardeth and Lajudis.

19 is with Collier's Engineering Design.

20 is with the environmental design and research.

21 is um, I'm gonna mess um Kepler Freeman.

22 is Quinla Van.

I'm gonna mess this one up.

QPK.

There we go.

QPK will initiwe it.

That and that's actually what we call.

And then the last one is with Terry Horse Landscape Architect.

One of the questions I've been asked is is this is $300,000 per agreement.

We never use them all, and when we all the money, and when we do come um per project, we come to the council for approval for those projects under these um landscape architectural service agreements.

Have we have we been working with these same architects for a while, or do we re renovate this year to year?

We so we re-evaluate, and these were the six that we chose.

Five of them are local to Syracuse.

They were already and um just I'm always around, and um are we making sure to identify the locations that were missed repeatedly um last year or the year prior um for like grass cutting and things like that?

That's the mowing contract.

That's a whole other story.

We'll we'll work on that.

Okay, okay.

Um, but this is for more land um our project based.

And I actually have some examples like um current um projects that we're working with.

Some of these folks are is like BL Playground, including Cummings, Barry, Ward, um, Dunbar, Elmwood, and McKinley.

Colliers is doing the inner harbor trail.

Structural stuff.

Um, yeah, so um EDR is forestry projects and community park master planning.

Okay, so every one of them we've been working with um on a project.

Now, Commissioner, does this include the steps at, for example, at Umwood and stuff like that?

Or is this different steps at Umwood, those are in the plans.

Oh, there's not enough zeros behind that.

So these are you're he's talking about what's this oh enough zeros.

Oh those are not right.

We kept saying it, he said it.

But what about the bridge?

Did that get redone?

Oh no, it got fixed.

And remember, someone had like it completely collapsed, and trades went in and rebuilt it.

Oh, so it is open now.

Oh, okay.

So these are two-year contracts.

So if you're not fully satisfied with any of these contractors thing, you you you have room to pivot to get some of the things okay.

Speaking of that, sorry to move off a little bit.

What about the pavilion at Elmwood?

The pavilion.

Yes, the pavilion and the playground is gonna, well, there's there's no replacing the pavilion.

We're putting a new one, it's already gone.

And then a new playground.

The playground is really outdated, still has the old silver tube slide.

I know because I'll go and play over there.

I mean, I know it's a little off topic, but can you just uh give the counselors a couple like the new pavilions and the new parks that are gonna get fixed this time really quick?

I know you know.

Yeah, so Homer Wheaton is getting a concession stand with bathrooms and a splash pad.

I don't have the list with me right now, but that's one of the big ones.

I know that's the one you wanted to hear.

Yeah, and obviously, we just talked about the basketball court at Kerf.

There's several playgrounds that we have to invest in.

Um we're still working on bigger projects with engineer like the um stage at Thornham Park.

Umorland.

Let's get in the splash pad, the park redone over Zaicia has been working really hard with her staff and her team to come up with a comprehensive plan.

So some of those parks that were missed and didn't get done, are gonna definitely get done this summer, right?

I just want to say that since you've taken over perks, I've seen a huge improvement.

So thank you for your hard work.

You're doing a great job.

And I'll put it back on you all and constituents to keep holding us accountable so that we continue to move forward.

As you can see from the questions from our colleagues, everybody's very invested in your work.

Thank you.

Couldn't do it without my team.

I got I have a really great team.

So 23.

Um, excuse me, 24 is an agreement with Cornell Cooperative Extension of Anadoga County for services that support access to educational programs, such as the 4-H camp that we partner with in the summer.

They host a two-week program currently at the fire barn up at Opera Anadaga.

Last year it was really successful.

Um, they had a full house, they do offer scholarships for the kids.

They do archery and fishing and nutrition.

It's a lot of fun.

Um, and it's all so it includes their educational programs and their camp.

25 is a green one with Anadaga County Soil and Water Conservation District to treat approximately 148 ash trees and various locations throughout the city.

Um, not to exceed 20,000.

I just have a um quick.

I don't know if it's a question, but um when they do the ash trees, are the um are notifications being sent out prior to um is this just for the park?

I believe these I will get you a clear end.

I believe these are in the park.

Oh, okay, because when they do them around the city at houses, the the flag just shows up.

I I've got they let people know.

I have been talking about forestry about cards, just letting folks know what pruning's going on.

So I know we're printing a bunch of tags, door tags.

Yeah, and it's more or less like people walk their dogs, even in the park.

Like and you see that flag just saying, like this, you know, there's no danger here, or there is danger here, you know, whatever.

Number 26 um is how do I explain this?

It's Barks and Racks.

So it's to amend our contract because the budget was they they went over the budget.

So 100,000 worth of the budget, we have to increase by 21,000 and extend their contract.

Um, so the contract has ended.

We need to extend it for a year.

Yeah, yeah.

They have two, but one remaining.

Yeah, uh, a new letter would be in the pack, and we will update um the agenda.

Make sure there are two things.

One is um before this this wonderful, beautiful snow melts.

Um garbage litter, we know it's coming.

It's coming.

I just would like to mention it again that um tick season and the deers.

Can we get um the department to put those signs up?

What ticks are and what they look like so that go into the park, especially in those high concentrated areas where we know the deers are, I mean, they're everywhere now since we've been building, but in the parks, I want to make sure that our kids leave.

They know what they are, they see them so they you know, um, can identify.

I actually have a meeting with the executive director of the the new executive director of the dare in tech um organization to talk about that and how we educate families and kids around the community.

Awesome.

And the second thing is I'll let you that was it, right?

You're done with that.

Yeah, okay.

And the second thing is uh you could tell Brianna, we can get some fundraiser money, tell our player, meet me at Kirk Park as soon as she takes the red.

You want to set up a challenge?

Ready to go.

I want to be happy to do that.

That's always gonna be a murder.

All right, uh, are you set?

Uh counselor.

All right.

Uh moving on.

Um, Marty Counselor Navy and Coldwell.

Thank you, madam president.

On behalf of Councilor Caldwell, we will uh present to you a resolution honoring Carmelita Shaf Walker for many years of service to the office of the Syracuse Comic Council.

Yes.

With all of us in all like to go on and please absolutely say they have to do it.

It's all counselors on board.

Yes.

Oh, I mean they spoke uh and right itself.

Counselor Anright.

Um, I do not know Carmelita, but I am happy to add my name to this.

Up to you.

So you're on board.

Sure.

Okay.

Oh are we okay?

Um Counselor Moore.

I have item 28.

Anyone speaking?

Uh, there we go.

Good afternoon, Councilman Mike Monsieur Fire Chief.

Um 28.

Um I forgot a relationship with uh Pi Kappa Epsilon.

They were doing a fundraiser um at the beginning of this fiscal year's.

Um at the beginning of this fiscal year's we had uh a little bit of uh gap in some of our budget and our needs, and uh they generously um decided to do a fundraiser to donate money to our department for our behavioral health assistant program and our critical incident stress management teams.

And these programs are our firefighters taking care of firefighters, whether they go on a terrible call, if they're having a psychological issue, a mental health issue on this program.

Um, and we talked about it with the Syracuse Police.

We're doing more training, so this money is going to training our firefighters to make sure we can identify when firefighters are in need and provide a support.

So um this fraternity did a specific fundraiser um to donate money to our organization for that.

So I'm grateful for them and excellent.

Yep, thank you.

Yes.

Anybody have any questions?

Thank you.

Yes, thank you.

Have a good day.

Uh Councillor Mulley.

Uh I also have item 29.

Um, in conjunction with counselors Caldwell and Jones Rouser, it's a resolution honoring police officer Jamie Pastorello.

And then you need all of those too.

Uh, if you uh I will.

Yes, yeah, I was.

I met him last week at a luncheon, and I just tremendously honored for it.

Well, police officers do not get always get enough credit for the good that they do in our community.

So um we are honored to honor this young man.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Yeah, that's it.

Counselor Williams.

Thank you very much, Madam President.

I have items 30 through 35.

Good afternoon, counselors.

Uh Vinny Scipione, Chief Information Officer.

Item 30 uh is related to a platform that the assessment department uses.

Uh you all are probably familiar with it.

Uh uh Image Made Online where you can go and look up parcels, uh, find out various details about it.

It's something that's used by the assessment department on a daily basis.

It has been acquired by another group.

And uh that group also uh well, this platform actually happens to also be used by the county, so uh these systems talk with each other.

It's in our best interest to continue to align with the county and the platforms that's being used for this sake.

Um it's um again acquired by a different uh or or under a different group name now, and uh we plan to migrate in the future to clean swap, right?

It's a clean swap.

Nothing changes.

Uh it will come with a newer interface that you see that from the new company.

It's not an immediate change that's gonna happen.

We've uh obviously we need the uh commissioner of assessment and his team to be able to get through this uh current uh role period, and uh we'd be looking later this year to coordinate also when the county does their changeover to make sure that we're uh you know moving over at the same time and uh minimal disruption.

So and why Schneider Geospatial?

Uh particularly because we want to follow suit from uh the the county and the platform that they use again and every other municipality in the county in central New York also uses them.

So uh being a uh you know independent, going with a different solution in this instance would not be in our best favor.

It would uh very much complicate or provide an extra layer of uh uh coordination that I don't think would be you know uh suit our suit us too well.

So with that being said, not that so are we moving forward when you said we're working with the because the county is using this um analytical system.

Are we gonna continue to do that with our other items to sort of move forward what the county's doing like uh I think it's situational depending on obviously there's platforms that both of us use, but there's also platforms that you know we use independently as the city, so it's just uh circumstantial and based on uh each case.

So you know if they are local.

Sorry, what's that?

Do you know if they are local?

Um I don't know.

Do you or particularly the new entity?

I'm not positive on that either.

I don't know.

Commissioner Do you know?

Yeah, I think that's a lot that's a lot of steps to say to say no.

Okay, okay.

You know, I'm kind of you know, I I know it's not a lot of money, eight thousand dollars, but I don't know.

Did I read that right?

Yep.

Yep I can try I can jump up Matt OJ, Commissioner of Assessment.

I can jump up and say we've had a relationship with SDG, the predecessor.

Um, I think virtually everybody in this room touches this software at one point or another.

They've been terrific.

They are local, they're responsive.

They got purchased by Beacon.

Now Beacon has been purchased by Schneider.

Um it's not a lot of dollars per click.

I think we got like 250,000 hits a year or something like this.

Um, you know, going forward, who knows what a contract looks like in four years, but in this interstitial period where there might be a reval on the horizon, this is something that every taxpayer and everybody in-house um, you know, in city government, county government is familiar with.

I think this is a pretty safe, no-risk, um, hopefully no disruption choice.

Yeah, I just I just my my concern, especially when the money is this small, it may be an opportunity for us to bring somebody up within that is local.

So I just I don't know if that would be fewer players in the market.

There are other tools out there.

Um we love the fact that out of 30, however many municipalities in Onondaga County, everybody uses this.

So you know, they speak to one another, they scrape the same back end data.

Umrout New York State.

You know, I think Western New York, there might be a couple other players in the market, maybe downstate, but by and large, this is what everybody is conversant in if you want to look up neighbors' taxes, neighbors' property information, anything you might see code-wise that you're curious about.

Um you could use the software in your sleep, and I think there's a lot to be said for that as we try to again broaden our reach as far as civic engagement goes.

Is it the price?

I mean not to keep talking about, but is this you know where I'm gonna, right?

Is this the practice that we're gonna continue to try to uh stay on a line with the other municipalities or other like the consequit and projects the same way?

Definitely can't speak for IT in the real property realm.

You you know you know how I feel about this.

I think the the extent to which a the county is engaged in best practices, and we can stay in locksteck step with them.

They provide us with so much terrific support behind the scenes.

Again, the population that we are talking to, taxpayers, we don't want to send somebody down Montgomery Street to learn something new.

We we want to be talking to taxpayers who are uh experiencing exactly the same thing from us that they are with the county.

So yeah, I'm I'm fully on board with that to the extent that it makes sense.

IT, that's a Vinny question.

Thanks, Commissioner.

Uh so to answer your question, uh I I'm not trying to be vague, it's it's circumstantial and it depends on the instance, but we are evaluating that as an option, right?

You know, when necessary, can we consolidate or not?

Uh or you know, again, be aligned with various county initiatives.

So thank you.

Um item 31.

Uh good afternoon, concerts.

Mike Canazero, Chief Financial Officer.

Um, so 31 is we're looking for a one-year renewal uh for fiscal advisors and marketing.

Um they're a uh firm that helps us issue our debt.

So government bonds, any short-term debt.

Um, there we this was the result of an RFP done three years ago.

Um, there are local players, they're located at uh I think 250 South Clinton Street.

Um they uh they they've been a great partner for us, um especially as we're going through kind of the JSCB financing.

Um that that's a fairly new initiative for I think all the you know new city staff here.

Um there's there's not a cost associated with this on the agenda, um, and that's because uh the the cost really fluctuate based on how much debt we issue.

We actually 30 million dollars in debt.

That's gonna be a larger fee than if we issue 15 million dollars in debt.

Um, just to give you a summary of what we've paid them over the last three years.

So that first um three years of their contract is about 90,000.

On average, uh, we do our general offering every June.

Um, that's about 25,000.

And then recently we've been doing these short-term debt issuances for JSCB um in January of the past two years.

Um, those have come out to be about 8,000 to 10,000 dollars a pop.

So looking to continue that relationship.

Um, this is the first of one of the two-year renewals.

Um, and then I think you know, we would probably look to renew again next year and then and then we would uh do an RFP for this.

So any questions?

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Um item 32.

Good afternoon, counselors.

Day ProEct, Director of IT.

Um, item number 32.

Requesting the ability to extend an existing agreement with a long time local vendor.

Uh we extended the agreement back uh earlier in the summer.

Uh we had an RFP that was issued in August.

That RFP has not been awarded yet.

But we're asking for the ability to continue to utilize his vendor in the interim.

So there will be any RFP coming out in June.

Is that what you say?

There was an RF we we issued an RFP in August.

That has not been awarded yet.

That would be in place of asking for this, you know, this one-time extension and another extension if need be, that sort of thing.

So when you say it hasn't been awarded, is it that whoever came with the RFP?

Was there an RSP process?

Was the D by response?

There was a full RFP process.

We had a tremendous, we had 26 or 28 responses.

Takes a long time to go through them.

Um, and so it hasn't been awarded.

Oh, so we're still going through the process.

Thank you, everybody.

And item 33.

Good afternoon, counselors.

Michael Lehman, Deputy Commissioner with the assessment departments.

Um here requesting to amend an ordinance that authorized uh lease agreements with uh New York Susquehanna Western Railroad.

Um this is the parcels we were discussing earlier, one fifteen and one sixteen through eighteen South Gettest Street.

Um with the bridge, we're looking to extend the lease term to 10 years and also include a right of first refusal uh clause in the agreements.

Um yeah, commissioner.

What's the run through that again?

We are because the that was on the agenda recently.

What is the amendment exactly?

The amendment this time is to change its term to 10 years and to add a right of first refusal clause to the contract.

Thank you.

Sure thing error of the one year.

Was that an error?

One year or no.

It was not an error.

No, no, okay.

Thank you.

Thank you, Councillor.

34.

Um, looking to correct the current year's assessment roll, 1445 South Salina Street.

Um, I believe was caught up in a larger reassessment project last year.

It's a shelter rent property, and somehow the exemption um stayed unchanged on the roll, should have increased commensurate with the increase in assessment.

So was there yeah, so we have a long series of appendices here, apparently.

Um the short title does not reflect all that we requested, I think.

Okay, they just sent that into us this morning.

By large, these appear to be properties that should have had a senior exemption that was not applied on the current role.

So we'd like we'd like to amend the role for those properties as well.

Yeah, say it again.

So senior citizen exemption.

In the case of Ms.

Johnson, Mr.

Winslow, each of these seems to be an instance where property owner was entitled to a senior exemption, um, was removed from the current role.

County role, apparently, county role specifically, should be reinstated for the county role.

But the 1445 South Salina 1445 was um simply an instance where had um had an 18th ward reassessment project, many assessments went up, including this one.

The exemption should have gone up commensurately, but but for whatever reason it didn't.

So we're just correcting that.

Um only be liable for what they should be.

Commissioner, can you just for public knowledge?

What what age is the senior exemption start at?

Because a lot of people don't know about it.

That's that's a pretty good segue to about three items from now.

Uh currently at 65.

Actually, it will be 65 after that as well.

Thank you.

Sure.

Thank you.

Thank you, Commissioner.

Okay.

Oh, there's more than the 39.

I'll never make it.

Oh, maybe there you go.

35.

Sorry, this has been up this year, that'll be nice.

Good afternoon, counsel.

Uh you boss, deputy commissioner of finance looking to um we've been doing these um plate lookups for out of state plates because we have to in order to charge them the parking ticket fees, and um previously hadn't it was assigned in one department, another department.

So I'm just putting it in mind because we gotta do it.

So we're asking to um have a total cost not to exceed $8,000.

I did it's not gonna increase my budget.

I found it from another spot and just moved it.

So I'm just looking for approval, but for the agreement.

And that ties to DMV databases.

DMV, yes.

Okay.

Out of state DMV.

Okay.

Do we make more than $8,000 from the tickets?

Absolutely.

Okay.

So this is a good investment of our it absolutely is.

I want to make a comment about these electronic out of state.

So in my common council district, we've had numerous abandoned vehicles covered with ice and snow.

They are out of state.

And constituents have called me on this.

And through the works of Circuit's police department, Tenet Romain, we found that these vehicles were stolen.

And and one vehicle that was left on Air Street, a brand new sports car, constrictor just put on Facebook, didn't call me, had was not registered, was not licensed.

So I mean, right now in my district, every year, and I tell constituents when there's an abandoned car covered with ice and snow, we don't know what's inside that vehicle.

So this is a great asset we have.

I have a question.

So um as far as this meeting and I mean the tickets going, how is that going so far?

Because I know it comes through you and I know it goes through the BAA partment, but far as the for the school zones?

Yes.

Okay, totally different um project.

This is for parking tickets, but I know the school, yep, the school zone.

Um we've you know been implementing it up.

We've had some issues with reconciling the data um and getting the reporting done.

Um I know that um BAA is working with the vendor to get all of their needs met as far as you know, when somebody is being adjudicated, there's certain statuses that the ticket has to be in, and so that late charges don't get added and all that stuff.

And so um it's been a long process, but we're hoping to take it to the finish line soon.

Well, what I would suggest is um if possible we could have a committee meeting soon just to do a uh just to talk about where we are with it and how far as collecting the fees from the tickets and what that looks like.

We have only reconciled the June and July statements just because the reports that we were getting weren't including all of the data.

They were charging bank fees that we didn't agree to in the contract, so a little bit of back and forth to get the um the statements to be correct before we're gonna pay them their percentage.

So um we're working on August and September now.

If you could give me a couple of weeks before we do uh meeting, I can get you some real numbers that we're confident on.

Perfect.

And Vicky, before you get off that topic, um just clarification during uh like this week, is there's no school.

Right.

Um would people be ticketed during this week?

No, any time there's like you know, when they have the half days and things like that, we make them aware of it, and that's taken that's okay.

People aren't ticketed.

Okay, so how many months of data do you have right now?

Two.

Two, so you don't have enough data to do any kind of remote.

We're gonna be getting through August, September, and then um October, November.

So at least I'll have like a six months.

And but you have to remember too that for the first um four months, we you know, everything was uh, you know, um what's the word I want?

They were just starting up, and so we weren't really we were in the warning periods that we really you know have data on how many people were warned.

Right.

So when we start getting into like third quarter, like um September, October, November, December data, I think we're gonna really see more meaningful data.

I would love just to just uh a blank and we don't have to have a meeting right away, but just how many letters have been sent out virus, how many people have received tickets in school zone that would give us like an estimate of like how many people are actually still um I got one, it wasn't me though, violated so like from the warning period No, just from the part from the time not from the warning, but from the time we started will be actual ticketing, actual ticketing, yeah.

How many um letters have been sent out far as a $50 fine um for that?

Okay, people pay right away, or does it take a while for them to comply?

Do the people pay right away?

Um we are seeing people paying.

I um haven't done an analysis because again, we're still working with them to do it with the reporting correctly, you know, as far as okay, this many tickets were issued, this many tickets were paid, and what's the difference?

How many people are not paying?

Um, but part of that is because we also have the data um isn't being held for the you know the um adjudications that BAA is doing.

So people may not have paid, but there may be because you know they're probably listening.

If we're not paying, there will be fees added to the original ticket, correct?

If if if it's found in their favor, they don't have to pay anything.

Right.

So the other question is really quick because I asked, what why is the company that we're using out of state?

Like in I think they're from Georgia.

I couldn't speak to that.

That would be a Leah.

Florida, we're paying an out of state.

You have to send it to Georgia to make the why haven't we came up what which is just so it's on your radar?

And I didn't know because I told me that we're paying out of state to pay.

Like, why haven't we had a system where they come here and pay or why they have to send it to me and then you guys have to do that?

Because the agreement we made with the contract is that they are going to manage the payments.

They're going to collect all the payments, and that's where they're located.

So if we chose if if there was a different company to choose from, maybe they would have a local presence.

I don't I don't know.

I wasn't that involved in the I wasn't aware that they couldn't pay here down here.

I thought I would well, one of the things that we did do is we add it to the contract to make it more convenient because you know there's a lot of people who don't believe in banks and they pay everything cash.

So I said, you know, these people aren't gonna want to be troubled going to get a money order, a certified check, whatever, and mailing it and all this.

Can we accept the payments here for cash payments at City Payment Center?

And so we are doing that.

So is it you know, courtesy to people to make it easier?

Okay.

Okay, yeah, I'm awesome.

Well, when you come with that, um when you when you do come with that, um those final numbers uh for the committee meeting.

I can also include um the uh I the um ones that have been moved or if they haven't been moved.

Um because this is for school, right?

Yeah, the school zone that were that are technically quarantined currently.

They were supposed to be being moved because I haven't seen any moved.

Give me the equipment.

Yes.

Okay.

So I just I'll reach out to Leah about that because she does a lot, and also Vinny uh might be helpful to and and um Craig are all working on depending on the reasons.

Yeah.

Are you okay?

All right, yes.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Counselor Williams, all good.

Okay, yes, thank you.

Thank you.

Moving to uh counselor Jones Rowser.

Thank you, Council President.

Um I have items 36 through 39.

Oh, yes, I'm sorry.

36 has is being withdrawn.

36 is withdrawn for now.

Um 37 and 38.

Wait, what happened?

I'm sorry, can you repeat that?

36 is withdrawn for now.

Withdrawn, okay.

Yeah.

And 37.

You did you oh that's it.

Okay, thank you.

Good afternoon, counselors Michelle Sabansky, deputy commissioner of neighborhood development.

Uh items 37 and 38 are companion pieces uh uh regarding the uh draft annual action plan for year 52, uh covering the years uh 2026-2027 for all of our HUD entitlement grants, uh including CDBG, uh ESG and the home program.

Uh so uh NBD held its public meeting uh last week uh regarding this item, and so the additional public hearing uh will be the public hearing of the council.

So how did that public hearing go?

Uh we had about 10 people uh that spoke and made comments on the record.

I would say there was maybe about 15 people total in attendance.

Any other questions?

Thank you.

Thank you.

Hello again, everybody.

We are looking to expand the senior exemption program.

Popular uh program authorized under section 467 of the New York State Real Property Tax Law last year.

The governor signed into law an expansion.

We would like the city of Syracuse to opt in.

This was last amended, I believe, two and a half years ago on on the roll of two years ago.

So this would apply prospectively to next year's assessment role, and it would expand uh eligibility to those making uh down to I believe 40 46,999.

Um and it would expand the uh partial exemption for up to 65% of taxable value to that class of homeowners.

Thank you.

I appreciate that.

This is now we finally put this on the um agenda.

I've been pushing for this for uh random crazy for a few months now, but waited for the county as well.

Um and um just to you know put it out in the air that um there have been some concerns that some seniors, you know, may be in a position where they're not fully um doing their own paperwork and and things of that nature.

So if anyone knows of a senior who may be benefiting from a tax um from their taxes being revised, um that could possibly be dealing with some cognitive issues.

Um just reach out and you know, see if they need help filling out their paperwork so that they can you know receive the the uh new exemption.

Yeah, my staff I believe processed 2800 of these last year.

Um so we wouldn't be accepting for next year until um third quarter of this.

Um but I you know love my staff, no hyperbole that you can you can stop down room 130 in assessment and have extraordinarily helpful, kind and knowledgeable people walk you through every step of this, and anybody who's entitled really should try to avail him or herself of the exemption.

So I heard from one constituent who was very upset because she was literally like maybe $300 over the limit.

So I've heard the voices of those people.

It's that's uh we can imagine.

Sorry, counselor.

Could we bring CDBG back up?

I have one more question.

Oh yes.

Um thank you, Matt.

Hi, sorry.

It's just double checking the list of organizations that are working with us on CDBG and emergency services funding.

My understanding is that there is a new regulation by the Trump administration that they have to provide documents, identifiable identifiable documents on the the residents of Syracuse that they are serving.

Uh there's some terms that are a part of our uh grant agreement that are regarding um a different things that we have to substantiate for uh eligible beneficiaries in the same way that we have to uh substantiate based on income.

Uh so uh there are some uh specific items there right now.

There is uh litigation that is in process uh that multiple states, including New York State, are a part of.

Um we've spoken with all of our community agencies kind of about what the implications of that are.

Uh, and happy to speak to any additional pieces of that uh offline.

That's all right.

But there is a stay on submitting that information.

There are injunctions in place, uh, and as we understand it based on kind of the information we've received from corporation council, uh, there is um those requirements will not be enforced until unless or until those injunctions are lifted.

So the the litigation must play out.

But we are requiring agencies to collect that information now.

We are uh going with what the injunctions based on the fact that there is an injunction in place.

We are um understanding kind of we've we've met with all of our agencies and told them that uh where where things stand kind of with that, and we are not asking them to submit that information until that injunction is lifted.

Do you know do you have um like a timeline for that injunction to play out?

We do not have any kind of timelines.

Uh counselors uh Michael Callins Commissioner for Neighboring Resistance Development, because of the fact that this is uh legal interpretation, this may be a good discussion for executive session with corporation council.

You're right.

Thanks.

You're totally right.

Thank you.

I just want to make sure that we're not preemptively complying.

Uh correct.

Okay.

I uh understood.

And so to uh Deputy Commissioner Spansky's point, uh, we have worked very closely with uh corporation council on exactly what is required, and we've worked very closely with the uh with the funded agencies to make sure that what is required right now uh we're um and not what is not required right now is what we're dealing with.

But I would think that for discrete questions it would probably be best to do that in executive session.

Absolutely.

Yeah, yeah.

So I just want to do that.

I correct.

Yes.

Yeah.

We it would have to be scheduled.

Okay, yeah.

Okay, since this doesn't preempt our action item on this, we do not have to do this now.

I just wanted to follow up in and have a conversation.

We're very happy to have uh complete conversations on these issues because it's it's important.

We we need to um find that balance of protecting our constituents, our agencies, and the city itself.

Uh and I believe that we have uh through the hard work of corporation council, uh deputy commissioner and her team done an excellent job of finding that balance.

I appreciate your confidence.

I know that CDBG really helps the hardest hit Syracuse residents, and I want to make sure that that funding is uninterrupted, but also that we are careful.

Uh that is uh been the balance that we've been striking for um uh it feels like a long time right now.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I think that we could have an alpha lessation and then decide from then if if that's appropriate uh if that's okay with the council.

Okay, yeah, yeah, just shoot an email.

Yeah, I'm I'm and counselor we we can we can catch up afterwards and anybody else that wants to uh talk afterwards uh casually we can we can do that and then go from there if that's okay with you.

Thank you.

Okay.

Thank you.

Um are we all set, Counselor Williams?

Are you all done?

Yes, I'm sorry, uh thank you.

Okay.

Um so we have now counselor Monte.

Thank you, President Pennyagua.

I have items 40 through 45.

Uh we will hold 40 for further discussion.

Uh 41 will also be held for another meeting.

42 is the installation of an honorary street sign for Dr.

Linda Lamura.

I would invite my other counselors to join in with me if you'd like to.

I will.

I will.

Meet you.

I will say that.

And there's um there's a typo in her name is Linda.

No, Lina.

We fixed that.

We fixed that at 11 o'clock last night, actually.

Um and then 43 through 45.

Just good afternoon, council.

Jake Dishwell, Deputy Commissioner of Code Enforcement and Zoning.

Uh item number 43 is a uh citywide six-month moratorium on battery energy storage systems or best BESS.

Um, so we had the public hearing with council.

Uh the city planning commission had a public workshop uh meeting as well.

Um and the city has a working group kind of working on some you know local regulatory standards that we think would be best suited uh moving forward with these and ask for this time so we can complete that work.

So the working group that wasn't going to be a com that's just the city working group.

Was there going to be a committee put together, formulated for the also to include residents or professionals in that field?

Um part of our outreach will include reaching out to some of these groups, including utility, uh uh national grid, for example.

So right now we've only met, I think twice, it's just internal city staff from uh multiple departments.

Um but yeah, we definitely want to make this inclusive, so we can definitely include uh outreach to outside organizations and partners.

Yeah.

National grid is um probably I mean, we're it would technically be evaluating their their equipment.

So I don't know how how well that's gonna play out.

So in that working group, uh any counselor in that group at all.

Uh not at this time, but if somebody's interested, let me know.

Sure.

Commissioner, one of the things brought up at that um meeting was uh uh saline batteries as opposed to lithium.

So if you guys are doing any research as far as trying to attract that kind of company here, I think that would be more feasible if they're looking to put it in the city as saline is not toxic like lithium is it's another alternative.

Yeah, I I mean right now it's just we're just asking for some time to look into all battery energy storage systems.

It includes various types of different batteries types, but um point taken.

Hey, do you think you'll need the whole six months?

Is it possible you'll be done before that?

Um it's hard to say.

I mean, uh I don't know.

And in your world, does six months go quick?

I know in mine it does.

So I uh um I mean listen, we want to get this done, but realistically, probably gonna take six months.

Okay.

And before you go away, uh Counselor Majok would love to uh join your meetings.

I'll I'll get with you uh sending an invite, okay?

And send me one as well, please.

There you go.

Sure.

Yeah.

Anything else on that?

And then Council Codwell.

It's two over no one.

Thank you.

Item 44 is a special use permit for a neighborhood market at 401 Pond Street.

So this went before planning commission.

Uh no one spoke in opposition.

Uh Counselor Nave was there.

Uh the owner is committed to improving the front of the store, so it sits on the corner of Pond and Steuben.

Right now, cars just kind of pull up right in front.

It's all asphalt.

He's gonna put grass in, new sidewalk.

Um so I think this is a good thing.

He's got to meet those conditions as well.

We've had we've had problems in the past.

You know, I've been over there where they had multiple vehicles parked, one or two were there unlicensed or unregistered.

Yes, I think we had issues with them, but I did speak at the meeting, and I think and I'm fine with it.

I just speak to the owner, she resides involved.

I said for now, I'm fine with it though, but still I don't want to go over there and then see cars parked on grass or sidewalks too.

So and I'll look at it.

I mean, once there's sidewalks in and grass in front and they meet the conditions, like I think it'd be pretty not impossible, but uh um hopefully cars won't pull up.

But also pointing out the lot to the right is not owned by this business one way.

So some cars pull in the lot that's there, but it's not owned by this business, so we can go through the normal channels to deal with illegal parking there or unlicensed unregistered vehicles there.

We don't.

I don't want to see vehicles double park and we in and out and then blocking traffic.

That's a heavy intersection as well.

And I have gone in and I spoke to the people there.

So but I I this is fine.

Uh or you move away from that, not necessarily that.

I just went to because it's a permit that we dealt with before, but the liquor store on um the west side.

Um I don't know what the street that is.

Gifford?

Yeah, right out west, yeah, Gifford and West.

Um you can't see it now because of the snow, but prior to it snowing, there's an extreme amount of trash um on all sides of that building.

Um, and so I just, you know, we put in place septed um provisions, and we need to be following following through on making sure that you know it's kept up in a way that is you know aesthetic to the neighborhood.

Like it's it's terrible.

Sure.

No, understood.

Um, and I'll get somebody over there.

Also, Jake, um, we say we cite we cite trash all the time.

Like I mean, they're not gonna be they're not the only one.

We cite dozens of properties every day.

So um we'll add them to the list.

Also, um Brighton and Canon, that store right there.

The park Brighton and what Brighton Brighton and Cannon Street.

Oh, Canon, okay, right there.

You know that corner store.

Yeah.

The parking is insane.

They keep putting the grass in, and the grass keep getting run over.

I I I don't know if anyone seen that, paid attention to the people back here that do some parking enforcement.

We'll get we'll get with uh organs we'll get with Romain and his team.

But yeah, I mean, understood.

Yeah.

Fix everything, Jake.

Fix everything.

Okay.

We'll send you a list.

45.

Yeah, 45 is a zone change for a property at 1939 East Fiat Street.

Um, this is part of the Parkside Commons.

So just one everything just went through planning commission and was approved.

So there's a resubdivision for this, and uh, we've had this maybe a dozen times before the council where uh we as a city as a policy don't want split zone parcels.

So the resub's been approved by the planning commission.

Um, and part of that is to change the zone from R5 to MX2 so we don't have a split zone parcel there, um, which is in step with what we've done previously.

MX would allow for like first floor retail if they it's gonna allow for what they want to build there, yeah.

Okay, yep.

Anybody have questions on that one?

I'm also in Penny Aqua.

Okay.

Oh, I'm sorry, I'm not date.

Go ahead.

Go ahead, go ahead.

Um, I just wanted to um go back to the hold on, we're still meeting.

We still I just wanted to make sure that um we announced that the public hearing um is will be held uh March 9 March 9th, I was gonna say 19th, March 9th at 5 30 um for the uh C D B G.

Um we say five.

S C D V C Oh I'm sorry, this is another one.

And sorry, sorry, Screen.

And also, um, before we adjourn, uh we're also having a public hearing tomorrow.

Thank you, Council Rowser for good cause.

And for those who um are attending, we welcome all.

We just want everyone to come and uh speak their piece.

It's gonna be set up as a town hall meeting.

And this meeting was not an emergency meeting, it was a meeting that needs to be held.

Anytime we put on um changes in the legislation, it's important that we hear from the community all.

So I know there were some things that was told in the community as well as it was only for landlords.

No, we want to hear from the community.

I've heard from uh tenants, I heard from landlord as well as all the other counselors, and we want to hear, and this is where we come in and listen to people.

But what I'm also saying that we're gonna listen, we're gonna have a good communication, we're gonna talk, but we're not gonna be yelling and screaming.

We're gonna keep this in a beautiful form as it should be.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay, because Council Jones.

A town hall is going to look like it's actually a town hall committee meeting, not a public hearing.

So what is what are the rules?

We can talk about it afterwards, okay.

Pardon me.

People have been asking how if they're gonna register to speak, how is how is it going to be comported?

It's gonna be uh just like you guys you said three minutes in the on in front of the house, right?

Uh we just gonna run the meetings and um you two can sit on the side of her if you like.

And um basically it's just like gonna be a regular committee meeting.

Now, if there is some uh organizations that you guys invite that you want to speak first, it might be better for those guys to speak first, and then you open it up to um open it up to the public for comments.

Are we gonna have carts for people to we can we can we can so that we can have some order in the room?

Yeah, yeah, that would be like yeah, no, no, we can't, we're gonna do that.

Yep.

So town hall is discussion style, or is it just people speaking?

It's gonna be you guys and actually have questions if you want if you want to answer questions or dialogue.

So the dialogue dialogue.

Oh, excellent.

Okay.

All right, so you went in to make an announcement.

I don't think the council comes to the case.

I let the council spend it.

Oh, I'm sorry, you're not going.

Um I'm done with this article, but I had a question for the um neighborhood and business development commissioner.

Um we are I thought I'm sorry, if I can jump on that or yeah.

Hi.

Hello.

Michael's like, why?

Um we don't have more letters for the electric vehicle charging stations.

Are we handing that pursuit at this time?

Uh there was not a way to comply with uh the wishes uh of the council around an RFP within the time uh that we had.

So we we talked with uh the the handful of uh local organizations um and uh confirmed that the the one that we had put forward was really the the one the only one that is able to do everything from beginning to end uh was the only one that was able to do it uh free of charge, but understanding the wishes uh the council for an RFP, uh the that's just from the time that we learned about it, it it uh to there was not gonna be a way to do that.

Um so uh, you know, we we certainly respect the the wishes of the council.

Do you believe so there this funding will open up again next year?

So there are two uh there are two grants.

Uh one of them is uh is ongoing.

Um so uh we could apply for that now, but we would need to cover the cost of uh the second uh half of that.

So I think it was about 170,000 we probably have to come up with.

Um we are looking at are there are there ways because uh you know, EV chargers uh while at the federal level, this is not uh of great interest, it still is certainly at the state level, uh trying to find ways in which we may be able to uh RFP uh in hopes of future opportunities uh because the uh when it comes to these types of uh grant applications, they are never announced with enough time to create an RFP.

Uh so we're we're looking at how might we be able to to to do something proactively so that we'd be able to uh figure out what that looks like.

Commissioner Collins, thank you.

Are you another question?

I don't, I'm just I'm disappointed that we weren't able to make it on this round.

Um I do think it is a loss of revenue for the city, and I understand deeply my fellow counselors' need for RFP processes.

I don't know that this was the exact test case that we should have picked on to hold the line this strongly.

Thank you very much, Commissioner.

Of course.

Okay, so I have a question since we're up here.

The other process was so was this an RP that you had to use that organization based on New York State or National Grade.

So uh great great question.

National Grid and uh New York State DEC each have a list of approved vendors.

And so for an opportunity like this, we would need that that would cover the entire expense.

Uh we would need one that is on both lists.

And um uh to the discussion that we had two weeks ago, there were a handful that were on both lists.

There are multiple components to it.

You would besides the calculations that need to happen within the uh within the application, there's also the installation, uh there's the ongoing maintenance uh and so we the the company that we had identified was the only regionally that was able to do each of the uh necessary components.

Like also there was some uh agreement issues too.

It wasn't just RFP.

I'm sorry, so that are there was some agreement issues that needed to be um ironed out too as far as like the revenue screen, not just um I'm I'm not totally following.

Yeah, you probably wasn't on the email like what was talking about.

Uh when you so agreement issues as far as the I think that's probably we can talk about it.

Okay, but uh is that around the maintenance?

Is that what you're referring to?

We can talk about it later if it comes up if I need to.

We need to so you so you're saying I'm sorry, no, because she was still talking about it.

I'll just I'm done.

No, so you're saying um you contacted the other companies, and then you realize they couldn't do it, and then you did then what where are we at now with it?

So uh uh Deputy Commissioner Kearney contacted uh those other companies that were local and they could each do components of it.

Um one of them was uh not available to do it this round.

Um I'm going off the top of my head on uh on this right here, so for forgive me for seeing uh a little bit vague on this, but the none of them were able to do the entire offering that uh uh the Jacob is with application installation uh service and maintenance uh before with with the company, right?

No, they abandoned the events.

Yeah, I the you know we we absolutely not looking to um you know have a big disagreement over RFPs.

Uh so you you guys have been clear about what the you know, the fact that you want our RFP for as many things as possible, and we respect that.

Thank you.

Would Chacomb be able to execute this between now and the deadline if we were to reintroduce the letters today?

Yes.

Yeah, but that we'll talk about is more to it.

There's yeah, there's a lot more to that's a there's some conversation that's going on with Owen and Avonette, you know, that you guys can talk about it.

So do you want to give me an announcement before?

Yes.

Can you please do make your announcements?

Oh no, is Manda.

She uh is she here?

Yeah, she recently yeah, she recently uh earned her uh bachelor's degree and um she seeked master's degree, she seeked out some employment over in the county.

Um and um and it's great opportunity, great opportunity that she can move on.

Yeah, congratulations, Amanda.

Yes, yes, she has motion to adjourn.

So move.

Second.