We're going to start with the colour.

Um give me one second here.

Here we go.

Present energy.

All right.

So counselor Edwin Rex.

I the item is ready for local law.

Sorry.

Yes?

And I urge its adoption.

That's in the next meeting.

Oh, sorry.

Sorry, okay.

But that's okay.

I'm calling wrong.

Uh the local law of the city of Syracuse to opt into good cause eviction law is ready.

All right, thank you.

We will have item.

I have item nine resolution.

We will be appointing a commissioner of date.

So it will be ready.

Yes.

Okay.

Council Calwell.

Thank you, madam.

Presidente.

Hi, bless us to R.

I have item number 10 and they're all ready unless any of my fellow counselors have any questions or concerns.

We're all set.

I had a quick question.

Yes.

So this is for the HR department.

Only it doesn't extend to police or fire.

That is still HR.

Still HR.

Everything is HR.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

So the system is for Jesus.

Is there anybody from HR here?

Yeah.

Probably.

I don't see HR here, but it doesn't prohibit me voting on it.

I was just curious.

You could ask them to email you any questions.

I think it's time to coming up.

Oh, Aaron here.

Thank you.

Chief Development Officer.

What we can do is we can get clarification on if this covers the city as a whole, and we can let you know prior to the voting session.

I just don't know that answer offhand.

Okay.

Thank you.

Okay.

Yep.

Counselor McGok.

Thank you, Madam President.

My items are ready, except Councilor Joel Raoul and other co some other counselors has questions about 14 and 15.

Right?

Is that that from last week?

Yes.

There were questions.

Yes.

Are we good?

I know Eric had sent something out yesterday.

About I didn't see it.

Oh, okay.

But the dis Eric, you want to come and expand on what you sent sent out.

Okay, I didn't know I was gonna be back up so soon.

Um so what we had shared, and I'd followed up on the uh from the email or by email following our conversation at study session.

Um so counselor, there's a number of different things that we were looking at and analyzing in order to determine um what was what was gonna be a conducive location for potential parking and what wasn't.

Um some of those were around proximity.

We were looking at the proximity, and I actually went through and measured um and this analysis was done before about the location you're referring to, the one it's uh 1320 at West Fayette is the location you're talking about.

That one's about 1300 feet away.

The location of the pump track is about 850.

Um, but there were some other factors, including the way the configuration of the site, it's a very nar narrow parcel.

So some of the parking, we weren't gonna be able to get um a sufficient number of parking spaces because of that location.

And then the other thing is just the west side trail does not immediately connect to that particular lot or site as well.

So there's a number of different factors, and I'm I can make sure they forward you that message just to make sure that you see it.

Um we did take a look at it.

SPD had looked at it for their kit feasibility, um, but ultimately that pump track location was really the one that was um just the the one that was gonna be um allow us to get the sufficient amount of parking needed.

So any other questions.

Thank you.

Um so all my items are ready, madam president.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Counselor Erin Rick, you know if I think we wanted thank you, Madam President.

I have items 17 through 26.

26.

All are ready, although I'm asking uh counselor more to present 24 for me.

Okay, okay.

24.

The cooperative extension of an onaga.

I already signed my kids up for this camp.

I didn't know it was coming before this session.

I just feel awkward about it, so I'd prefer if the counselor would take it for me.

Uh Joe, is it okay for her to um to abstain from it?

Or is she or does she need to vote?

Does it does it matter because the kids are in the camp?

Okay, okay.

So then you just abstain.

Okay.

But I can still present.

You can see the internet.

I was just asking her to present it.

That's okay.

No.

You present it, you just abstained.

Just abstain.

Oh, yeah.

You can introduce an abstain if that makes you feel better.

Thank you.

Okay.

So are we set?

Unless other questions arise, I think we're all set.

Thank you, Madam President.

Counselor Caldwell.

Just call it.

Oh, well, you would meet.

Or Navi.

Well, yes, we're ready for.

Yes.

Yeah, we're ready.

We're ready.

Item 27.

I 27.

Yep.

Let's go.

Let's go.

Counselor Moore.

Thank you, Madam President.

I have items 28 and 29, and they are ready to go.

Thank you.

Counselor Monto for Counselor Williams.

Thank you, Madam President.

Counselor Williams has items 30 through 35.

And we are all set.

Everything is ready.

Okay.

And then Councillor James Rausser.

Thank you, President.

I have items 36 through 39.

And um we are withdrawing.

Uh 30 6.

Um 38 is being held for the public meeting.

Yeah.

Yeah, you're right.

And we'll take one for that again to well, two of them.

37 and 38 both have uh public hearing.

No, um 37 is too is is to authorized the public hearing.

You hold yeah, 38.

You said that correct.

The first time okay.

So what are we doing?

Can you say that one more time?

37 is to all 37 is ready.

38 is to announce the public hearing.

She's holding.

But you're holding 38.

Yeah.

Right.

And 37 is fine.

Yeah.

Okay.

39.

I actually am probably gonna hold if I can get Matt up here who's in another conversation.

Um I'm probably gonna hold Oh, seniors.

Okay, yeah.

Good afternoon, guys.

Looking into it a little further.

The annual salary was decreased.

Um for the availability.

So that's a good thing.

If it yeah, expanding the tent of uh of eligible seniors, yeah.

We're by lopping off what is it, plus or minus four thousand dollars in annual income.

That that's just expanding the the eligible pool.

Um and um, you know, I think we could quantify that.

I think we probably have enough income data from the state.

So add to a number of information because I need to know if we decrease how many people that exceed that.

Are we dropping off?

Oh, yeah, no, no, just how many are we gonna be now getting in?

We're extending the pool, and I think plus or minus 10, 20 taxpayers, we could probably get you in a pretty close to exact sense of how many more people would be eligible under the extension.

So let's lowering the income threshold.

Lowering the income threshold is a positive thing.

People who make more are actually gonna be put in instead of being locked out of it.

So it actually adds people.

No, no, no, no, no.

Other way around larger, larger benefits will accrue to those who make less.

Oh, let's just get that information first.

Yeah, that we can do.

So are you holding it or holding it?

Yes, we'll email that around uh next couple days.

Okay, thank you.

And before moving off of um mine, I just want to oh you're you're good, Matt.

I just want to make sure that the public and the counselors know that this what is that date?

Saturday or Friday?

The 27th, Saturday, right?

Saturday.

Saturday, the 27th, we will hold the sign.

Um Friday.

Friday.

Yeah, Friday, okay.

Friday the 27th, we have the sign.

Um is evaded me.

For Donna Reese.

Oh, yeah, street sign.

Yes, the street sign dedication for Donna Reese um at the corner of West Brighton and Webster.

And that's at 1 p.m.

Okay.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Are you all set?

Yes.

Yes.

Okay, councillor Monto.

Counselor uh President Penny Agua, I have items 40 through 45.

40 we're going to hold 41.

We're going to hold 42 is the honorary street sign for Dr.

Lemura.

That is ready.

43 is ready.

44.

Marty Nav, uh, Councilor Navi, are you okay with the special permit for Pond Street?

Uh yeah.

Okay.

I'm okay.

That is ready.

Thank you.

And 45 is ready.

So then are you holding 42?

Is that what you said?

Yeah, 42 is ready.

It's ready.

44.

Only 40 and 42.

40 and 41.

Thank you, Councilor Monto.

And then um me with the uh waiver.

Do we do this now the waiver?

Or put a name up there?

Um that's Councilor Bachel, my my bad.

Navi.

It's me and Navi.

Counselor's my joke and nave.

Are you taking it?

Yes.

Well, we'll make an exception.

We don't you don't have your name then or do I?

So go ahead, Councilman.

Uh yes.

So item 46.

Uh uh Commissioner, you I got a couple of questions you want to come up here.

Would you first break down what what are we doing here?

Absolutely.

So Michael Collins, Commissioner for Neighborhood and Business Development.

Uh so uh at the last meeting, you all approved our ability to apply for two different grants, one to national grid uh to make the site ready at uh Progress Park for EV chargers and to uh Department of Uh Environmental Conference Conservation to apply for the funding to install two EV chargers.

So uh we had a slight change in in what you saw this time compared to the the the third item had been the waiver uh letter uh in in the that two-week period that we've had, we've recognized that we have the ability for the same amount of money to reduce the number of charges from three to two, and what that does is it gets us the highest uh the fastest chargers that we can get.

So it's uh it's a much faster and therefore would be much more likely to be used uh charger.

So the uh the way this works and Karina Freeland is um behind me and she's gonna jump up if I end up you guys end up with detailed questions that I can't answer.

Uh but the way that uh this works is we since we found out about this in mid-December, um, which made it too late to do an RFP process.

Uh we did an internal search and uh Councilman Juck, you and I had had conversations around what internal capacity was.

Um and it turns out all the things that you and I had talked about, uh Karina Freeland and Deputy Commissioner Kearney had already all checked into, and I just hadn't been aware of it at the time that you and I had talked.

But but so it was confirmed that uh the everybody that we've got that has electrical engineering abilities licenses uh looked at I say everybody, at least certainly Ken Towsley and others had looked at uh what was required within the application from a technical standpoint and determined that A, these overall this was something that was beneficial for the city, and B that um no one on staff had the ability to be able to complete this type of uh technical analysis that was necessary for that part of the application.

Uh one of the other questions that came up uh a few different ways is about sighting.

And so two things overall, why progress park?

So one of the things that I've learned in the last two weeks, um while Owen went to Canada and had a great time with his family, and we're all happy for him.

And I've learned more about EV Charger since then.

Uh, is that uh the substation there and then the powering to that site had been recently upgraded, so that's one of the things that allows that site, and then it would be within that parking lot that's in between the stage and Kirkpatrick that's right across from the back of um uh the uh the parks uh parking lot.

And so Jacom is the only one uh in the area that is able to do uh the write the grant, do the installation, uh, and do the maintenance.

It's a five-year maintenance program that we would be contracting with them for.

We are required by the funders to maintain them for 10 years, so we can certainly contract with anybody we want after that within the country.

Yep, go for it.

I'm sorry, the funder is so New York State DEC is the one that is funding the actual chargers themselves.

Uh national grid is doing uh funding the site preparedness.

Yep.

Um and then um uh we so the the generally the way that this always works is the DEC grid will say, hey, look, here if you're awarded, here's the contract, and then we turn around and we say, look, you've got to uh make sure that there's the opportunity when we contract with Jacob, we would say that you have to have opportunity for uh for Syracuse contractors, that we would encourage uh local minority contractors as well.

Um I think that covered most of the stuff, if not all the stuff that uh a few of us had talked about, but hit me with other questions.

We got it.

The biggest thing was the language, right?

So the language is fit in the contract and make sure it doesn't put us in a situation, right?

Uh so it it's the language will be, but we will not get a contract, we will not get contract language from the funders until and and hopefully if they award to us, it is then what we have promised within the legislation is that when we then subcontract, we would be inserting the language around uh MBE's WBE local local uh subcontractors.

I want to say it right now.

Jacom, you got it right.

Yeah, we we fixed the language with them far as what we're agreeing on, right?

In the legislature in the paper.

They are we we will have it done.

We are in verbal agreement with them about that.

So how do we make sure that's good because verbal and written?

I mean, I know we you know, uh simply because we would not move forward.

We haven't put ourselves in a situation where you signed up.

Joe's bigger.

You nailed it.

So that would only happen once the the of the approval of the grants.

Like, correct.

Right?

Okay.

Yep.

And then it comes back to counsel.

Yeah, Joe Joe, you want to contradict me on any of that?

I just want to make sure, I guess I'm not sure which language we're talking about.

So I I've counselor, if I if I'm correct, what I'm answering is your concern, and I know Councillor McJook's concern, and I think everybody's concerned about the contract we would enter into with Jacom once we had entered into contract with DEC and National Grid if we were to get those awards from them.

Right.

Well, what contract we already have with Jacob?

We we do not.

There was it's just verbal written that you guys are writing this grant together, and that upon receiving this grant that A B and C is gonna have.

And then we'll go and write a contract.

So there's no contract before it's just word of mouth.

That the right now that's exactly what it is.

So Joe, before we go ahead.

Joe Barry, first assistant corporation counsel.

So I think you have to start by looking at the ordinance that's before you right now.

It outlines the business terms as presented in the legislative request letter.

Then it delegates to the corporation council as usual to work out the contract details, the legal terms.

So you know, we will make sure we do a contract that meets city standards.

Uh but you've you've raised some other issues about MWB and otherwise I'm not personally familiar with.

So I I guess I guess before part of the stipulation that we wanted to see in this uh agreement, we know contra will come later.

But there's it gotta be you know, in terms of the agreement and and before we vote on this, the agreement in place, what we wanted to see in it was something along the line that the city would like and desires that eventually when this grant does come back, to have a flexibility to be able to subcontract with this work, and we we didn't want to vote on it and wait for contract later.

We want this language to somewhat sub, you know, supersede is it making sense that's it wasn't presented to the law department until now, so we talked about that.

So yeah, counselor, we we talked about it in the because of the fact that there is not time to have gotten a written agreement with Jacom.

What the the best I've been able to offer is my assurance that we would make sure that when uh after we receive the contracts from DEC and National Grid, again that's a big presumption in the fact that we're awarded, but this company is applied for 50, they got 49.

So we're we're feeling like we got a safe bet here that absolutely that's what we would then ask the law department to include in that contract with the subcontractor, which it would be Jacombe.

Okay because the award would be to the city for both of these.

We got time to put it in there.

So we do have time to put it in there.

The timing of it means that it since the contract also would be like we can't do a contract with Jacom before we've got the contract for the award.

So it's it's a but Jacob.

So I just want to say, so they're just we just got this beautiful relationship with them.

They're just like, yeah, we're gonna outwrite this with you guys, even if we we don't get the contract.

There's nothing in there that says in legal way that we're not caught into owing them anything if we do or not get together.

We've not signed anything with it.

Okay.

The ordinance specifically makes it contingent upon receiving the grants.

Okay.

So so with that, does that mean that eventually when we do get the grant back, the budget breakout?

Because I I see here that that's a portion of it that is gonna take city time, city staff time.

And there's a a large portion of it that is Jacom is gonna pick up.

And this agreement, it will outline those that say for example, percentage, Jacob do 80%, the city do 20%.

We don't have that.

And will that agreement get into will that language cash?

Yeah, there's there's no well, you're you're talking about time spent, or are you talking about money spent on behalf of the city?

When when budget-wise, budget-wise.

So say we have 435,000.

How much of that would be dedicated?

Assume that in good faith that we have it.

How much of that is gonna be dedicated to city time and Jacob?

Or is it all gonna go to Jacom?

That's an excellent question.

That it um I do not have the ability to uh answer Karina May.

Hi, counselors.

Um good afternoon.

Karina Freeland City Sustainability Planner for the contract, the services that are going through at New York State DEC and also national grant.

All of the funding is for site preparation, site installation, paying the maintenance or networking fees, or paying for the uh actual uh equipment for the EV chargers.

There's no staff time that's in this grant.

It's a no-batch grant based on our media household income, which is how we qualify for this opportunity.

So you're saying the city the city will not spend any time on it at all.

On money.

On money.

We would not have to do that.

So no staff time.

No.

Okay.

That's the one of the reasons Jacoba's uh wonderful opportunity for us, is because we don't have the in-house to manage a grant like this right now, and this would allow us to start learning how to use this infrastructure, and that way the next time that some of these opportunities come around, we can lead on our turtle staff to make this more of an equitable in um opportunity.

Okay, so but but commission at that time will come maybe five years down the road.

Once once you we'd love for it to be a lot sooner, but it it really comes it it comes uh in a few different ways.

When is the grant opportunity come up?

And uh when do we have sites that would be uh I ideal from both what works well for the constituency, uh with what works well for where we are with that particular property that we own, and what is national grid's ability to supply the power necessary?

Okay, and you will keep us informed.

Stephen Oh, is is other yeah.

I the the challenge that we may have going forward is that again for the so while one of these grants is rolling, the other one has got a deadline, and we will likely find out about it about you know, uh two months before it's due.

And so uh, but we will all we are all much more knowledgeable about this now.

So my I guess my last question is from the from the revenue side.

You know, the revenue generated.

Yep.

Um, how is it gonna going to be collected and and when so the revenue that will be generated is going to be generated through a networking service.

So in that five to ten year agreement, you'll see its maintenance and networking.

That's so that uh with a credit card you're able to pay for the services.

Now, this the pricing that we want to set, I think is something that council and our division could decide upon the acceptance of the grant because that's when we could decide if we want to cut the prices to make those charges more equitable for more people, or if we want to raise it higher and generate more revenue for the city.

The way that we will receive the funding is we'll receive it through a check and we can put it into account, or we could put it into the general fund, and the way that we'll be charged for that is there's a 7.5% networking fee, which is about less than a set based on their pricing model that they had right now.

Well, you call me the one collecting and sending out the check, or who uh would would we contract with another vendor?

We would whoever we choose to contract the networking, that's who would be receiving the funds and sending them back.

So the way that this grant is written, the first five years would be with Jacob, but we could contract somebody else out after those five years.

Any other questions?

All right, uh no, I'm good with this.

Commissioner, thank you.

Thank you.

Yeah, that's what we're gonna tell you.

Oh I still reach our elsewhere, walk in the room.

We have a question for you.

Yes.

No, Hannah has a hey council, I apologize.

I was watching, so I did catch your question.

Um the question about fire and police being able to use uh applicant pro or formally applicant prep.

I just didn't know if this was limited to certain departments or if it was wider.

Nope, this will be for all departments across the city, um across the city for fire and police they do things a little bit differently because they have a continual list running with the county.

Um so for the vast majority of their hiring, they'll stick to that process.

There might be some opportunity down the road to streamline that, but um for all their civilian positions or anything that doesn't fall under hiring police or fire rank and file, um, we'll be able to use the system for them.

Thank you for answering my question.

Absolutely.

Any other questions?

Thank you for glaring it.

I'm good with that.

Thank you for that one.

But Commissioner Burr, uh I want to bring you back really quick.

I just um me and commission um uh counselor Cho has a statement we want to say.

We want to say that um to Brianna that we need we love the thank you for the 50,000.

We are so excited.

But we want to make it 100.

Me and Cho would be with her and one other partner three on three to make it a hundred why why you smile, you think I'll propose it.

I would like to strike that from the record.

I will email and ask.

But she will probably propose that her wife be her.

Yeah, tell her tell her.

So we only can do a three-point show.

She can kind of test.

Uh-oh.

No, no, no.

I was just trying to go.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

You're welcome.

Thank you.

Are we all set?

Um I would before you adjourn, I'd like to ask that we go into executive session to get some clarity on a law that about something we're gonna be voting on.

If we could.

Can we do that?

Are you are you yes if you'd like to make that um available?

Yes, so we're gonna go on executive session.

Yes.

To specify to specifics of good cause.

Yep.

So we should be right back.

So move.

So move.

Don't we have to do that?