Do we have to introduce and table that one?

No.

Okay.

Already was.

Okay.

Do we have any appointments or not?

So we okay, so that would be at Solomon withdrawal for there on.

Okay, Councilor Calvin.

Thank you, Madam President.

Bless us all today.

I have item ten through thirteen.

Ten is um all of them are awesome, but um number ten.

This is going to be honorary.

Um we were working on a concession stand for the last couple years, and it is finally coming through.

And Mr.

Gunn, who has been a prominent person in the Mountain View neighborhood area for decades, yeah, forever.

Um created the little league over.

Well, he didn't create the little league, but he just kept it going.

Um over there, Mr.

Peter White created the little league over there, but he kept it going.

So the community has spoken out.

It was already in the process, but it we are finally getting it going.

We're gonna name it after him on that one.

And then it's gonna be um you corrected that, right?

For Mr.

Gunn.

Yeah, because um in your book it says um Thomas, it should be Dennis.

No, that's the wrong one.

That's Mr.

Gunn.

Oh, okay.

Item number twelve, I don't know where it's okay.

We're we can keep it moving.

I mean, item number eleven.

Um which is considered the same as ten.

We have number twelve and thirteen, and this one is going to my current.

I can't take a look at the what's his name.

Okay, she's not here.

But so number item twelve, we're gonna Josh.

Josh on the definition.

That's Josh.

Is there anybody from Parks?

That's Josh.

Yeah, but Josh doesn't, he doesn't so item we're having a public hearing for the both items, right?

Twelve.

Twelve is um anybody that knows Dennis Barnett.

If you don't know Dennis Barnett, you don't know Syracuse, and you don't know Parks Department, you don't know coaching, you don't know anything.

He's been a part of this, um be honest.

You don't know he's been around like and he's a phenomenal person.

His his children are all um employees of the city from firefighters.

Uh and uh this is gonna be an honorary sign on the basketball court, which he spends his time every summer, all year supporting the kids, still running the clock, still you know, talking junk, which I love, and we're gonna name this the um court after Mr.

Dennis Barnett.

But we have some support of the one from Marty because it's this district and country for my own.

Oh, I think we can all sign up.

So everybody decided uh counselor, yes.

Um, the South Side Community Growth Foundation would love to send a flyer out.

They're going to be doing an event at McChesney Park, uh, and they would love to get support around people coming to the public hearing in support of this.

So if we had information about it that we could provide to them, that would be very useful.

It's in our book.

Mean information on what?

Like if we had a flyer about the public hearing that we could distribute to the community foundation, that would be fantastic.

I'll throw it to you too, and I'll see.

Thank you.

Yeah, I'll throw something.

I mean, well, which one?

Which one?

I don't know.

You can send it to me and I'll send it to you.

No, no, I'm the man just for the McGuchess.

But I mean, they're they're of the same hearing, so I'll do it.

Thank you.

We're gonna sorry.

But while you're up here, you could probably give us a heads up on where we are with uh um yeah.

We already went through them, so we're good.

We just probably can't stuff.

But it'd be nice to tell.

Um Joshua Cox landscape designer for the parks department.

Um currently we do have legislation coming up later on once we're back up here for the additional funding needed for a homework we can consumption stand, but we're at 100% on the documents, and we're just finalizing the bid right now, so get the bid out on the street.

Um intention is still to have the bid opened up within the next eight weeks or so because I have it opened up so we have a contractor selected, and then uh we're going to construction soon after that.

We're it's eight, it's gonna be eight weeks before you have a a bid up before we can actually open the bid.

We have to put the bid out still.

We're working on the final tweaks on the bid documents right now with our engineering department, and then they go out, select, and we build.

Okay, does anybody have any questions?

Is everybody all set to be honest with uh Mr.

Gunn?

Yes, my hands.

And Mr.

Barnett, yes, okay, thank you.

Thank you.

I'm all set.

Thank you.

And Counselor McCuck.

Thank you, Madam President.

I have item 14 to 40.

Here we go again.

I know, right?

One more yeah, I know.

Good afternoon, everyone.

Uh 14 and 15 is an IMA with the county for our uh till ab project.

It's going to include the till ab and grant uh intersection.

Uh we already had uh an agreement with them, but uh we need a little bit more money so to finish that project.

Jeremy, I was um I had inquired about maybe a month or two ago um about the um length of what they were doing.

It was it was to court to city line, and there's a significant amount of accidents that happened at the once you cross over the James Street until intersection coming from court, and so I was wondering why it wasn't expanded to that area.

Um I don't have an example or wasn't expanded to that area.

And I know it it's it's starting at Grant Boulevard uh to City Line City Line, yeah, up to so I so it never never changed, never changed.

Okay, but I can get you an answer on that one.

All right, well, well, I'll just we'll sit down and talk about that section.

Is it's where like once so when you're on um till is two lanes to go up, but as soon as you cross over the two lanes in very shortly, so there's constant um car accidents right there or the is taking out the light pole several times.

Okay, I can inquire about that.

Okay, I know the the entrance to the shop city is kind of a mess, so I know they're gonna do that.

Yeah, um, but I'll require.

Okay.

All right.

Any more questions?

Thank you for so that was item 14 and 15.

Uh item 16.

Good afternoon, counselors.

Mary Robison, city engineer.

Item 16, 17, and 18 are a tip project.

Uh actually tap funding, which is part of the tip for the new shared use path on the West Side Trail project.

Um, this is the one adjacent to um West Fayette Street between West Fayette Street and uh the railroad.

And this is to add the um right-of-way acquisition fees for a cost not to exceed 50,000 dollars, bringing the project to 1 million 70,000, and we receive um 80 percent federal funding on this.

No Marchiselli since it's not vehicular improvements.

Always so this is the bond the agreement with DOT and the project authorization, 20 and 21 is another tip project, which is under construction, East Bright Nav paving project from Thurber Street to East Seneca Turnpike.

We're asking for an additional $300,000 in local funds.

This project's currently under construction, and we're asking for this money in case we need it for contingency during construction.

You sure that's all you need?

And we can't make no mistakes.

Yes.

Okay.

We're we're relatively sure.

I don't guarantee anything.

Um so that this project is getting um federal reimbursement in March Asselling, but this 300,000 will be all local.

There is no more TIP funds available.

Otherwise, I would have grabbed them.

Uh item number 22.

We're amending the permission for Axon Enterprises.

This is the license plate reading cameras for police department.

Um this is just a minor amendment.

Um I had written in there that they were gonna be um owned by Axon, but they're the cameras are actually gonna be owned by the city.

I have on the license plate readers.

Maybe the police department can answer probably because I was actually reading reading an article, and it was saying that it's gonna do more than read the license plates, is saying that it can go through and like read if you have the headphones in, it'll be able to tap into that.

We're using it to lead right lead uh to read license plates.

So what its full capabilities are is not what we're intending to use it for.

So our purpose is to use it to re-license plates.

It's technology, technology evolves over time through updates, but our purpose is to use it as a function of a license plate reader.

I know that's that's our purpose, but will that be axon's sole purpose?

They don't own the data, we own the data.

We own the data, so yeah.

The other minor change is that the cameras are solar, some are solar powered and some are electric powered.

Whereas originally it was written as solar.

Just to clarify, um Mary, these are going on existing poles, or are we putting more poles out?

It's gonna be a combination of putting it on existing poles and some new polls.

Is this kind of like replacing what we had um with them prior flock?

Yeah, it's almost like the same thing you did.

Yeah, except for um they don't um offer what we didn't want from Flock.

Yeah, and in this case we're gonna reopen the data or end the cameras, the equipment.

Has all the flock cameras and equipment been all removed?

Um, I believe they're coordinating the removal of the flock with the installation of the new uh Richel, Deputy Chief of Police.

So all of the existing flock cameras have been uh turned off and disabled.

Um we are in um communication with Flock to have them actually removed.

Flock owns those cameras, so we don't want to touch them other than to to remove them for obvious reasons.

So Flock's gonna remove them.

We're in communication with them, but um all of our logins have been disabled, all the cameras have been disabled.

The data coming from the cable uh cameras is not going into the system anymore.

And uh this was done on June 22nd.

The last bit of daddy data from June 22nd, 30 days later will be deleted from the system based on uh the policy of the retention on that.

I think you know the timeline of when there's intending to remove the camera.

I think that's probably something that we should talk about um in executive session.

Okay, if you don't have to um deputy chief, I have a question because it's been posed to me.

I know that we've unplugged the cameras.

Is there a battery backup that's still operating?

Uh there was, yep.

There was a battery for but uh um disabled them for us, so they're they're not working at all.

There was a solar power battery that when we unplugged them, they still continued for a short period of time, but then in communication with Flock, Flock disabled the data coming from every single one of those cameras.

So they're completely disabled.

Done, they're turned off.

Thank you.

I'm gonna call this item ready with a question.

Um we'll know by Monday.

Okay.

Um item 22, Mayor.

Okay.

Okay.

I'm gonna try to look into it a little bit deeper deeper, and then we'll go from there.

Thank you.

Uh item 23.

23 and 24 is a bond ordinance and authorization to purchase a um new surveying vehicle for engineering cost not to exceed 65,000.

They don't have that on the uh state equipment registry by any chance for less than 65,000.

We're gonna shop it.

Facetious question.

Huh?

Just asking.

Do we have a specific dealership that we usually go through or something along those lines?

It depends on the vehicle.

Again, we're gonna shop it for um we're not gonna get as big a vehicle as we have now, um, but we still need a decent size SUV to carry all our equipment.

Is that just a one, or you have one?

Just one.

Just one.

We have other vehicles, but this one is carries all our surveying equipment.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

Thank you, Mary.

That goes with 24.

Oh no, sorry.

Yeah.

35.

We need somebody from water.

Yeah, yeah.

Good afternoon, counselors Michael Lehman, Deputy Commissioner Assessment Department.

We're uh requesting uh permission to authorize a new lease uh for 404 uh Salisbury Road.

Uh tenants is a water employee.

Uh this will be a one-year lease with another one-year uh extension option.

Any questions stays the same, right?

Excuse me.

Everything is the same.

Uh the rents increased by five percent.

Oh other than that, yes.

Is it the current um tenant same occupants?

Yes.

Okay.

Thanks very much.

Thank you.

Twenty-six.

Good afternoon, Beth Smith from the water department management analyst.

We have items 26 through 40, and also item number 28.

Um 26 is requesting permission to enter into an agreement with Dem.

They clean our intake screens, and they can get a build-up of the zebra mussels.

So we have those cleaned a few times a year.

Item number 27 is and again, another agreement agreement with safety clean.

They pick up our used oil for the water department, the garage.

Number 28 is to increase um the existing ordinance with hunt services to 37,000 dollars.

We've had some emergency welding out at the lake.

Number 29 again is increasing our not to exceed amount with um RMP, which is required by the EPA for some additional chlorine gas monitor training.

Item number 30 is to be declared a lead agency on this chlorine conversion project.

We will be approaching council with item 31 is again for printing services throughout the year, and we will obtain competitive quotes on that.

Um item number 32 again is repairs for emergency bases for our pumps with Gartner and Coaster.

Item number 33 is to monitor our SCADA, which is monitoring our levels and flow throughout the water distribution system.

Item 34 again is with Hunt specialty underwater services for emergency services, also item number 35 is with our liquid chlorine that we inject the water with.

That's that's not the same type of chlorine that is used in swimming pools, is it?

It's different, it's different.

No, it's not um item 36 is uh waiver with Kinsella.

They pick up our spoils that we create when repairing water main breaks and leaks.

Item number 37 is a waiver to go to Milton to repair our backhoes.

It's why is it getting waived?

It did is is it just because why?

They specialize in milk and caterpillar, the brand caterpillar, Milton Caterpillar.

No other no other, right?

Right.

Right.

Item 38 is to utilize Monroe for our backhoes.

And 39 is a waiver to um utilize Ross Valve throughout our system at our various pump stations.

Can I ask a quick question?

Yeah.

Um, these are basically or um companies that we've been using every year.

It's like going on.

Do we ever not utilize all the money?

Absolutely.

So sometimes we bond, I mean we request 65, and you might only use 40,000 of it if that if it can vary year to year, but we rarely use the full amount.

I know last year we had a lot of issues with the water and different, so I didn't know if this money gets you know moved over to somewhere else in a water leak department when we had all the issues, or do it just stay on this line.

It would just stay on that line.

Right, right.

Is to utilize UFI um for HAVS testing if we deal with it, if you have to deal with that issue in August, September with uh algae boom, we I mean the temperatures have been high but not higher.

So we we still okay right now.

Currently, our we're we are not testing daily for microcystons um at all.

Um our levels are fine.

Typically, August September is when we would have any issues if we were to have any.

That's when the water gets really warm, and if it's if it becomes stagnant, not much wind, that could um cause some blooms go back to 32.

Um, it doesn't list which pumps will be um replaced were there two pumps that got replaced um within the last year.

I think in Lincoln Hills area.

That's um like the Brookford Pump Station and the and the Westminster Pump Station, those are large pumps, these are um some of our smaller pumps also.

Okay, yeah.

Yeah, definitely and as far as the valves um for 39.

Um, just wondering, I'm I'm not to say that somebody did anything, but um I know that it was mentioned one time that like sometime the DOT workers are like just utilizing the valves themselves without permission.

Is that cause a problem at all?

Like for us to have to have them replaced.

I have not seen that um personally.

Um I don't believe so, but the commissioner might have a better idea.

He's he's not available today, but I can certainly check.

Absolutely.

Um I believe last item is jumping to 88 for our water rate increase of four percent.

We did not have a water rate increase last fiscal year, so we are we are looking to increase it by four percent this year, effective July 1st.

Paper 20.

Well, what we're doing does this include uh a processing like lead that may be in our in our waters lead in our waters that are or what we're doing.

Well, that is post-through checking for lead in the water.

No, no, okay.

No, not this, not this.

Okay, yeah.

Right, right, right.

I didn't know if it sometimes water might go.

Lead might be water.

These are just race counselors, but water departments are always talking about I was concerned about if lead seep into the water, all the chemicals that we have in Alchemic that might lead into lead or any other detectable.

Talk to a math word about it if you wanted to.

Sure, sure.

Um, any questions at all?

No, thank you.

Thank you.

Uh Councillor Aaron Brake.

Thank you, Madam President.

You have items 41 to 70.

Good afternoon.

Apologies for being late earlier, but we're here now.

41 is a donation of a free little library at Leavenworth Park, but um donated by TNT and residents.

Questions?

42 with American Medical AMR, American Medical Response or various um events in the city first.

Not to exceed $5,000.

43 is our agreement with the city.

Um throughout the year and over the summer.

Not to exceed $960, $960.

$44.

Um is an amendment to it's to increase um the NCSI background checks.

We just came before you with it, but we need to increase the amount to $8,000, not to exceed.

Yeah.

Right?

So eight not to exceed $8,000.

45?

45 is um to a man an ordinance for leasing agreement with Turf Tank, which is our robotic painting system that paints all of our fields for football and soccer.

Not to exceed $8,000.

We currently have a robot.

I I went back up.

We currently have a turf tank in an agreement with them.

And it's currently robotic painting.

Mm-hmm.

Okay.

Yep, it's a robotic um painting machine for the fields.

Um, and to authorize the second and final year of renewal for that one.

Would we RFP it after that point?

I mean, I guess we would.

Yeah.

46 is to amend the ordinance for veterinary emergency services for veterinary medical center.

Um that one, um, so it's authorized the second final year of renewal for that.

47 is a bond ordinance authorizing the insurance and sell of bonds to defray the cost of burnett park improvements.

Total not to exceed 450,000.

So I would like to have a parks committee meeting to discuss the bonds.

Um 47 through 6.

So it's 4748.

I'm sorry, you were 47 through 60?

Oh, oh, we do see okay.

Okay.

Um you want to have a committee maybe to discuss bonds or these items here.

These items here.

So you're gonna hold them.

I'm gonna hold these items.

Okay.

But if other people have questions or I say would you like to walk through it?

Sorry, Commissioner.

You want me to go through them?

Also, if we're gonna have a committee meeting, okay.

Then we'll just hold them and go to the committee meeting.

So I no, I have a specific question for 53 and 54.

Okay.

The West Side Pump Track?

Yeah, which is if my recollection served me well, I thought this was supposed to be an item for the uh not us covering them, but I think the the police was supposed to be covering it, not not the city.

Oh, okay.

Whatever happened to that.

So the goal is to move this pump track to another space in Lightart Park.

Yeah, no, no, I I don't mind where it is.

I just why are we paying for it?

Yeah.

And I thought um somebody else was supposed to pay for it, not the city.

Yeah, I can answer this.

Um the parks department's best equipped for the community engagement element with this pro this project.

We're gonna be demolition, uh doing a demo on a current pump track, and in order to get something that's really worth it for the community, um to build a bike park, you know, something like that.

Uh, we really want to engage the community, especially the west side.

Um, they've been the biggest supporters and advocates.

The one that's there now was built by them, but uh a very uh uh strenuous labor effort, but uh we want to make it right and ask them what they really want to see there.

So we think that we're the best department to do that.

I don't know, that doesn't that's a mod question.

No, we can't want the money.

Oh, the money up to the city.

Yeah, it's in our capital group program.

No, it was already said that the police was gonna work.

Somebody was gonna pay for it.

It wasn't, I don't know.

Maybe it was just that they was getting the part of the.

Good afternoon, counselors.

Eric on a mayor's office.

So um, counselor, I just I came up because I I was part of the discussions when the planning for the new facility 1153 was underway.

I I do not recall, I'm not aware of any um other entity that would be paying for the pump track that the new pump track we're talking about.

Now, when the new when the original one was done, which Josh was just referencing, the stewards of Light Bar Park, which is a volunteer organization that was very dedicated to it, maintenance of that pump track has always been one of the challenges, is just being able to maintain that.

Given the fact we do have Light Bar Park, the City Parks Department maintains Light Bar Park.

This would be part of the improvements to Light Bar Park.

Certainly the city, I think, as Josh was saying, Parks Department.

The parks department is really well equipped to do that.

But given the relocation and the loss of the original pump track, this will be an upgrade, certainly by all means, but it would be a city project, and the city would ultimately be funding that.

Whereas the police payment is like, yeah, they're okay.

Yeah.

All right.

Sounds like we need to do some fact finding on this issue.

Okay.

No, you no, you're so but we're also um Council.

We can talk about it then.

All right, I appreciate that, Clarification.

We will also go back to the case.

Can you check on that?

Because I think we all call that conversation.

Okay.

I don't know where it got mixed up because I remember we deeply talked about that.

Okay.

All right.

That's that's a very helpful to know.

So thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

That would be awful.

Maybe there's an 61 place.

So Mentu congratulate you and Schiller Parks, friends of Schiller Park, uh and uh Assemblymember Magnarelli for the phenomenal investments.

Uh and Pam Hunter, uh Assemblymember Hunter, and our entire state delegation, including Senator May, for securing such wonderful funding for Schiller Park and the great improvements that are gonna happen there.

So move forward.

11.5 million dollars.

Look at that smile.

The smile.

So I've been asked, will there be a slide in the park?

We we are not answering questions about design until it's designed.

Right now it's full replacement.

Go ahead.

Um 61 is to authorize um the bond ordinance for um tree pit enhancement not to exceed two million.

Um 62 is tree pit and is the authorization of that bond for um improving conditions of trees planted along sidewalks and surrounding Howard Skatescapes business districts throughout the city.

This is fairly routine funding.

Yeah, it is, it is.

You're you're seeing it outside the window right now.

Quick question on that, Saisha.

Yes.

I noticed there's a lot less trees downtown than there used to be.

Are we working to add more trees to downtown?

We are.

If you see like directly across the street, they're working together.

DP DPW and um forestry are working together to repair the tree pits along the line and to put trees to install trees back in.

Yes.

Commissioner, speaking of trees, um, I I had a tree in front of my house that was planted about four years ago.

Okay, so it's grown a little bit.

But it better grow.

But but here's where I'm going with it.

You have to go with it.

Somebody came and chopped off some branches.

They prove that that is that how you yeah, they prune it back so it doesn't engage with the national grid power lines.

I it may catch fire if they don't do that.

I I thought because I thought because my tree was crazy.

Somebody came and grabbed pot of it.

So we we work with Grim as well as our forestry and tree um department to ensure that our city streets are safe and clear.

Okay, so we have to prune back the trees specifically around power lines and wires.

Our tree crew does a really good job.

I uh while I'm on the mic, I will thank them for the storm that just passed because they were on it.

So somebody didn't steal my tree.

They didn't steal it, they pruned it back for me.

Okay, they're making it prettier.

Okay.

Commissioner and trees, um, while we're here, just to note that when uh somebody's tree falls and they're on a right away of the city, right?

What is the protocol?

Because I know parks are on it.

What is the protocol?

So they would call dispatch or they would call the city line number and report it after, yes, and report it.

There's a dispatch number to report it.

Um, and then our crews will dispatch if it's three in the morning, they're gonna get up and they're gonna go take care of it.

Or see click fix.

Yeah.

Commissioner, we did put a picture of the stuff.

Talking about trees, and I was suggesting maybe we should grow uh fruit trees, like chair and apples.

So someone wants an apple or uh a cherry or pear tree.

I mean, and I'm serious to say you this I think it really well would engage in our city, you know, come visit our cherry trees, our big trees or an entire.

So we have been doing a lot of that in our parks, right?

So Schiller Park, we're planting a lot of berries and um different edible plants, and now it's educating our community about what's edible, what's not edible, where to find those.

I agree, but often you have to have a few trees together because they pollinate each other.

Some of the trees you have to pollinate yourself, which is a lot of work.

We also have to change the language for our um municipal laws for um foraging, yeah because currently foraging is really not allowable in um public areas, and so that the language in there has to change as well.

There's good news though with our new tree ordinance because that is in there, so that's really that's what we've been working on.

Yeah, we got a lot more stuff to get through though.

So good ideas.

Let's keep a truck in 63.

It's uh um authorizing the bond ordinance um for natural areas restoration program, total not to see exceed 150,000, 64 is to authorize that 150,000.

That's again one clearing out um areas, making it safe for public.

65 is uh purchase um it's uh I believe APO from the art store.

We buy our supplies for our youth programming not to exceed $5,000.

Um 66 is the purchase from Fred's flags, maintenance repair and replacement to buy new um to install existing and new flag poles around the city.

Commissioner, I have a question on that.

Yes.

What is the purpose of having flagpoles in the parks to commemorate uh honor?

Right.

It's a silly question, except this is a 25,000 dollar item, and I don't know that park that's a lot of different things.

But it's like we have flags outside of municipal buildings, we have flags in other places in the city.

Do we need to have 25,000 in a regular reoccurring line item for flags in parks?

This is for uh replacements as well, not just new flags, but replacements for player uh repairs often are uh the ropes on the flags get broken, and so the entire uh system that's within the flagpole itself needs fully replaced to do that.

The company needs to rent a lift.

There's a lot of uh more than just taking the flagpole down, and you have to really get up there.

Um we have been on a trend to replace and repair up to four to five flag flag flagpoles every year now.

Um the newest flagpole was outside of um Midland Avenue.

And we'll keep putting them in parks that they're requested to be in.

How much would it cost to take the flagpoles out of the parks and then not have to repair or replace them?

But that's not what our community is asking for.

More and more we're getting requests for new flagpoles.

Um there's a few that are broken stone throwers.

We got complaints that the flag wasn't raised or lowered.

It's because we can't, because the mechanism inside is broke, and so we can't and we get requests for new flags.

They're tathered, it's disrespectful.

Um, we just got another request for a flagpole at Grosso.

So it's Google Park.

Oh, yeah, okay.

Okay, and you got uh Kirk Park, which is gonna have a lot of different sides.

Yeah, all right.

We're um 67.

Thank you, Nader.

67.

Um, from Gardener Equipment Company, plumbing and waterworks, um, related equipment material to purchase, not to exceed 100,000.

Um gosh.

Herba, I'm gonna mess that all up because I keep doing it.

There you go.

Plants, it's planting landscaping materials, seeds and bulbs, um, not to exceed 50,000.

That's to make the city beautiful.

The gardener does all that work.

69 is um for peaceful pets, it's um cremation of pets, cremation services.

Um not to exceed six thousand dollars.

So you should yes, sir.

What this is a clue one that went tragically, uh a petis code in the street when we call someone, is that are they is this the service they had to use?

Yes, they have to create no water.

Okay, okay, thank you.

Yeah, and number 70 is the purchase of um professional the professional turf services, golf course, chemicals, herbicides, and consultant um for 10,000.

Are these okay for children to be around?

Yes, a lot of this is used um on the golf course, on poison ivy, on things like that.

Yeah, weeds.

Thank you very much, Commissioner.

Um, actually, I have a question.

Um I can't remember which one it was.

Um it was I can't remember which one it was, but I have another question.

Um, when an item is donated to the park, the park is responsible for them, correct?

Yes.

So um the soccer um post at Kirk Park.

Okay.

The nets have torn.

I've gone and like zip tied them several times because kids are trying to like climb on them.

A piece of the metal portions have um been broken off, which I don't think it, I don't think the metal portion matters, but um the net itself needs to be.

If we know about it, we'll do something about it.

We have spare nets.

I'll work with Trevor to get them replaced.

I don't think you'd even need to re I just think it needs to be.

Yeah, we have some like repaired on site.

Well, we have new nets.

We'll okay.

All right.

All right.

Any other questions?

Any other questions?

One more.

Um, and it might be for Josh.

What what's up with the skate?

Um, the temporary well, ask it.

You can oh, oh, skateboarding.

That's you, and then I have one.

Oh, got you.

Sure.

Uh the skateboard and ramp that we had donated by the Everson.

Um, it's ready to be deployed.

I'm working with uh the group, the advocate group that you know really brought it to us.

Yeah, um, just to get it out there, get it built.

We have the right surfacing material for it, so it won't deteriorate over time.

Okay, and we're just organizing a date to build it.

Okay.

We'll let you know.

All right.

Lastly, if you don't own a roller skates, it is five dollars to come down to Clinton Square and get your roll on.

It's open during the day right now from 11 to 2.

Tomorrow, 11 to 2.

Tonight is LGBTQ night from six to nine.

Thursday and Friday will be open from six to ten, weather dependent.

11 to 2 a.m.

Lunchtime, yes.

We have people, we have about 12 people out there skating right now when I left.

That's PM AM.

You know what I meant, Mr.

Council 100.

It's been a long three days.

11 a.m.

to 12 p.m.

2 p.m.

2 p.m.

That's a lunch hour.

Commissioner, I just want to say this is a wonderful initiative that you undertook.

And I've heard from young people that I know that don't live in the city that are excited to come here and roller skate.

So awesome.

Thank you.

Commissioner, do you have the waiver item for the extension of the five months?

We actually don't because it's covered.

Um, we had we have to put another letter in to it if we extend for the rentals.

Okay.

Yep.

I guess.

I think you gotta find another location so it could be permanent.

I think it's beautiful.

No, seriously, I think that's I need money for more staff just to mean it.

No, but it's beautiful.

I love that.

It's just wish it would be more than a week.

We're gonna work just just be patient.

It might you'll see.

Be patient.

That's all I think the plan.

Thank you, Commissioner.

Oh, thank you.

Okay.

Are you okay?

I'm all set, thank you.

That's what I have.

Council Hutton, thank you.

I have item 71 through 74.

And Vincent, 71, 73, and 74.

We've already just well, 71, 72, 73, we've already discussed, and I have some side conversation on 72.

I have with you.

But um, they're ready.

74.

Yeah, great.

Thank you.

Uh Vinny Scipione, Chief Information Officer.

Uh 74 is um an increase on uh a previously authorized amount for one of our uh IT vendors.

The uh purpose for the increase is to just get us uh true up for the for this current fiscal year that we're wrapping up.

Uh in the beginning of a fiscal year, we estimate out how much we think we may use from a vendor uh out of our overall budget.

Uh that way we don't uh inadvertently encumber funds that could be utilized based on the operational needs of the department.

So uh just as the year has gone on, we've leveraged this vendor accordingly.

Uh so this increase represents the uh that overall you know utilization and to get us through the end of the fiscal year.

Thank you.

Yeah, yeah.

Um council president, I'm done.

Thank you.

I know we have a side conversation.

Well, you have to sorry.

All right, all right.

Um, Councillor Moore.

Thank you, madam president.

I have items 75 through 85.

Good afternoon, counselors.

Please I have 75.

Enter into an agreement with Interchair Club Virginia Jiu-Jitsu to instruct Jiu Jitsu at their Syracuse Regional Uh Please Trading Academy.

Uh the agreement is for one year where two one year options to renew a total cost not to exceed 20,000 dollars.

This is a result of an RFP that was put out.

Um we are transitioning from our previous um vendor because it's more affordable to go with this new vendor.

Um, and it's more he's more they're more accommodating to us as the academy or the academy.

Okay.

How many officers do you expect to go through this training?

It's the entire police academy.

So for now, we won't do it for the current academy because how far we're in.

So depending on the size of the next academy, hopefully we can have 20 to 30, but it's really dependent on how many people um we can get in our next police academy.

Thank you.

Item 76.

Counselor's uh Rich Trudell, uh Deputy Chief of the Police Department.

Um, we're before you're here today for item number six to seek uh approval to enter into a renewal for our shot spotter um deployment on the south side.

This is phase one, phase one is the south side.

Um it's for 250,817.

And again, this is uh a renewal of um that program.

Thank you.

Um, I have some questions about the efficacy of shot spotter and how the community feels about it.

Sure.

Have you talked to neighbors in terms of does this make people feel safer?

Does it not?

And I understand that there have been more than one, I don't know how many um incidents where somebody has been shot and shot spotter did not go off.

Yeah, so we hear those concerns and we talk to neighbors when we hit community meetings, that sort of thing.

Um for as many times as shot spotter don't doesn't go off, and the accuracy of shot spotters upwards of 98, 99% accurate.

We get so many more hits where we don't get citizen callers when people have been hit, or where the community is at risk, and we do not get calls.

The amount of uh times we don't get calls on shots fired incidents surprisingly is high.

We also see a very big return on investment with shot spotter on the prosecution side of it.

So there's the response side where we don't get calls, um gets us there quicker.

We respond on every single shots fire uh shots fired as opposed to having um zero response, and then that what that brings in terms of um the attitude towards the police responding to shots fired.

But to kind of get on to the second part of it, the uh the evidence, the first call I get from uh when we decide whether we're gonna move forward from shot spotter is from the DA's office because the system provides a forensic report out of the system that provides evidence in the prosecution as to the number of shots that occurred, whether they were from different weapons, um, was there the was the individual who was firing in a car, was it moving, was it stationary?

It helps us find evidence.

Like this thing will say that the the shots are in this location behind the house within 20 to 30 feet, that we would spend perhaps hours or not find at all, and shot spotter points us to that evidence.

So I think there's we certainly hear the concerns, um, but I don't think honestly that they're based in the facts that we have in terms of the uh the system overall.

I think that I would like some more data behind the facts.

I would like to know again what is our conviction rate?

What what are we you know and was the what is the accuracy?

You say that they provide a forensic report.

Has it ever been wrong?

I I just I need to know that this is a technology that's actually working for us instead of the one that was widely adopted because the federal government subsidized it so heavily to our police departments.

Okay, we can get you the data.

Absolutely.

I would appreciate that.

Any other questions at all?

One more one more question.

Can it distinguish between a shot and a fire work?

Yes.

Okay.

So um the system will distinguish, and then during um, especially this uh fourth of July weekend coming up, there's individuals that listen to it as well.

So there's a human factor into involved uh on the shot spotter side.

Okay, speaking of fireworks, do we is the detail ready for summer fireworks, disturbings?

Yeah, yeah.

Um chief sent something out.

I'll double check on it, but I believe there's uh there's details going out on that.

Yep.

So shot spotter is all over the city now.

No, no, we just have two deployments.

Um we put the deployments where we typically see gun violence.

So we have to.

We've seen an uptake when you have gun violence.

Sorry, sorry.

Hallien, what's your question?

I didn't hear that.

I asked, was shot spotter all over the city?

Oh, and he said, No, you said it's another.

There's two deployments, the south side and north side deployment.

And north side.

Yes, yes, ma'am.

So when we see an uptick, what do we do?

Oh man, so we monitor gun violence not only through shot spotter, right?

But through the calls for service, um, the analysts.

Um, there's a variety, it's all done through give, so there's a variety of different strategies that we use.

We we speak to Latif in the mayor's office to reduce gun violence to talk about outreach.

Um, we have a number of hotspot policing strategies, septe strategies.

There's a vast array of um, and we and this happens weekly, right?

This isn't something that we're very responsive to increases in shots fired.

We do our Cobra curve stops in areas where we see those increases.

So we have a pretty vast array of strategies that we deploy on a week to weekend.

And I get the strategies, but the shot spotter only stay in those two locations.

Yes, I'm sorry.

I I'm I guess I misunderstood your question.

Yeah.

We would have to expand the shot spotter um footprint with more sensors to increase our our coverage.

That's what I was just about to say.

Um when you give that information for Counselor Iron Right.

Yes.

If you can um add the north side um data as far as the what hits picked up because I know that the area that some of those are in was questioned prior um about the location um and the possible moving of them, but that wasn't something it would needed to be expanded, which cost more money instead of just moving them.

Um so just following up to see what the location for the north side is is picking up at this point because I personally think that it needs to be further up towards uh street and court versus where they are.

Yeah, I have uh uh a detailed map of both deployments, and there's uh um a monthly report comes out from shot spotter as the term as to the amount of um hits and the accuracy of those hits.

So we have we have that data.

What's the distant again?

What's what's the radius?

Oh, so forgive me.

I think it's the north side we'll go to the south side.

I think it's on here is I think it's 3.5 square miles.

Um I'll get you the north side one.

Thank you.

Uh, I wanted to make a comment because we had a homicide in May.

I want to commend the department.

I'll went door to door and you know, I'll try to get some answers.

And uh and anything that we can do, you want to talk to me.

I mean we need more lighting, which we do need.

I talked to the businesses, uh, more security.

I think lighting is uh is probably gonna help us.

Okay, thank you very much.

Thank you.

Appreciate that.

Thank you, Deputy Chief.

Yep, thanks.

Item 77.

Is anyone here speak on that?

That's acceptance of some funds.

Like to you don't like fire.

Hello, I'm Fire Chief Mike Mons.

Number 77 is for the fire department to accept funds from the New York State Department of Health.

Um, the Department of Health gives us funding every time we certify a firefighter to be an EMT or paramedic.

Um, so that's to accept up to 70,000, depending on how many people we certify it in a year.

Um, number 78.

Are you ready for me to move on to 78?

78 is to go into an agreement with Andrew Vendetti, who is uh Syracuse Fitness.

He uh maintains all of our ellipticals, treadmills, rowing machines in the firehouse.

He's uh authorized repair uh person, and he provides the parts for those particular machines because we bought them through Syracuse Fitness, and he maintains our warranty work.

Uh 79 is an agreement with Image Trend.

That's the program we use.

Um that's a mandate underneath the United States Federal Fire Administration, the New York State Office of Fire Prevention and Control.

It's our records management system with all of our alarms and how we document what we did on our calls.

Um, so that is a sole source pro um software program that we use for our calls um for image trend.

Does anybody have any questions on that?

Number 80 is an agreement with JPB fire sales, so 80 and 81.

Um these are the equipment that um most people know as the jaws of life when we cut people out of cars.

Um 80 is to use uh JPB for our homatro rescue system, and that's the same thing.

They're the only uh sole source and authorized dealer to provide parts and repair these uh tools that we have, and for 81 is Jerome Fire Equipment.

They are the authorized dealer to sell us parts and to do the repairs for Amkus Jaws of Life tools.

Um 82 uh is uh purchase with competit without competitive bid uh for firematic supply company.

This company repairs any our bunker gear that we wear into the fire, the outside gear.

If that rips, tears get stains on it.

This company actually comes and picks us um up once a week.

Um we don't have to pay any shipping, um, which is a costly um, which is a costly funding um process for when we have to ship things in and out.

This company actually comes and they're authorized to fix our gear, so it maintains the standards of our gear.

Um number 83.

Pierce is one of the manufacturers of our fire trucks.

Pierce is one of the manufacturers of our fire trucks, they are the sole source and authorized dealer for replacing parts for the fire trucks, and if we need to do any factory level repairs, they are the only ones authorized to fix the fire trucks while they're under warranty.

Um 84 SPS tracks.

Um this is a program we use to make sure we're OSHA compliant, PESH compliant, all the state federal regulations when we have to sign our respiratory every day.

Our firefighters come in and saying that their SCBA and their breathing apparatus works.

This is a program that docs um tracks all that, and if we're ever audited, we have a computerized system to like um prove what we are doing with our um respiratory system and 85 um is subfin, it's the same thing as Pierce Sutfin is one of the fire trucks manufacturers that we use.

Van or Molin is a company that is the only company allowed to sell us port parts that make sure we don't void our warranty.

Um does anybody have any questions on any of that?

Thank you, Chief.

Thank you.

Have a great day.

Are you all set?

Thank you.

All right.

Uh councilor cut well for counselor we have.

Yes, I have items 86 through 90 for counselor Williams.

Good afternoon.

Leah Whitmer from the municipal violations bureau.

86 and 87 go with that local law A.

Okay.

Sorry.

Hold on.

I'm sorry, I was okay.

Not nine 90, if you so are you a good one.

And I was just coming up late at the beginning.

I'm sorry.

But so we're good with us?

Yes.

I know.

So 86.

Go ahead.

I'm sorry, could you please repeat?

86 um is the partner item to the local law A that was tabled at the last session.

It's the local law and the ordinance amendment.

And then 87 is for the parking violations bureau.

These are to expand the requirement that my part-time administrative law judges and hearing examiners live in the city, which is the way the wording currently stands to live in or work in the city.

Um for a law firm law partnership, or as a solo practitioner.

The hope is that we get more candidates for these part-time, as I've shared with you all with the increase of automated enforcement, the volume has gone up.

So while I have over a dozen part-time judges working for me, um, we still have quite the backlog.

And at the end of the month, I'll be down to zero deputies.

So I'm the only full-time administrative law judge on staff, so we need extra capacity to keep up with the volume.

Thank you.

Oh, I just have a question.

Um possibly this might be for Joe, but Joe, for us to amend this, is it possible we could add a sunset to this so that it's kind of like a trial period to see if we get people um from out of the area versus in the yeah, like a pilot so that we can so that it doesn't just strictly knock out city residents eventually.

So you would all to your point, you you build this to be prioritizing on the people that live in the city.

Yeah, I mean, I've always hired basically hired anyone that lives in the city.

Um, so there are attorneys out there that want to work for me, but they can come up with no, I get what you're saying.

I'm just saying I've been doing this for eight years.

So um so even once we open up that door to to councillor our rousers.

I would still prioritize within the city.

This they still have the requirement that they have to work in the city, which as we know there's a lot of firms or solo practitioners since the courthouses are down here, so it expands the pool somewhat again because the subset requires what requires the higher level of education on top of they have to have a practice in New York State depending on the position for four to seven years.

Um, and it's a part-time job, so you know, many attorneys don't have the capacity to take on additional hours.

Um you know, Joe, I sorry, I didn't know if you want to say I would it their local laws and ordinances, so I don't know if you could put the sunset on there, but I'd be happy to you know put a pin on my calendar and come back in a year to rediscuss.

Joe Barry, first assistant corporation council, good afternoon.

Uh so that's a very good question.

Um historically, our legislative practice, though we have not included sunset clauses.

I know the state legislature does it a lot, but um I would recommend against it just because of our the nature of our code and you know you know somebody would have to keep track of that, and it would be kind of automatic.

Um my recommendation instead would be a general ordinance and local law is always subject to amendment or rescind.

So at any future date, a counselor can request that um the general ordinance be changed back for full residency or modified in some other way, depending on uh how the new program works.

Okay, thank you.

Because we're looking for new administrative law judges, and I'm concerned like for those who are new to the community, new Americans.

Do we reach out to I mean should there are law firms, ethnic base who I would like to see encouraged to apply for disposition, have administrative law judges to work like them.

Oh, that's one of my biggest priorities.

And I and I think that's what we want to emphasize if we can work on there.

So I'm part of um the court, the judge Carolunis, the fifth judicial district, administrative law judge in the court system has a fifth judicial district act is access to justice committee.

I'm on that committee.

And we recently convened with a bunch of the judges and all of the local bar associations, which I'm happy to report there's more affinity bar associations than when I started um with the city.

So there is um a black bar association, a Hispanic Bar Association, an Asian American Bar Association.

Again, most of those are either not very broad as the local bar, the Onondaga County Bar, the women's bar, um, or just starting out here.

Um, but the point of the recent um group that got together is to ensure divor diversity across the courts and access to justice.

So anytime I have a posting, I always share with all of those um groups as well as the law school and any other local attorney groups in the area to ensure that I'm getting diverse candidates across race, ethnicity, practice area, right?

I don't want all criminal defense attorneys where they live in the city, where they're working.

So all of those factors are really important.

They had to be what practicing.

Yeah, so again, that's governed by the law, depending if there's different tiers.

So like the BAA administrative law judges, those the law requires the state law requires it three to four years practicing and admitted in New York State in good standing.

On the parking side, it varies, but you know, for a senior hearing examiner, supervising and hearing examiner, or even a new one, it's four to seven years.

Okay, so I can't have someone write out a law school.

Right.

You said you sent it to the law schools, so for alumni, for you know, they send out regular alumni correspondents and always post um, you know, for not the new um okay students.

I I go after them for the interns.

So um council Nave, Council Aaron Wright, and myself were at a meeting last night.

And one of the things that came up in that meeting uh from the neighbors was the fact that the co department is issuing tickets, but it takes three months or more for really for these fines and to go through.

Is that part of not having judges or what's going on with BAA not pushing things through?

So the BAA process is the backlog is not a as much a product of not having judges, it's a product of that process being a manual process.

Um, so it takes us longer from the service, right?

The service is different for the BAA, all of those tickets are served certified mail, where all of the other tickets are served either nailed and mailed first class.

Um so it's it automatically starts at a higher tier, right?

It's gonna take us longer to get that certified mailing.

Um, and if somebody rejects it, it kind of goes back.

And then because it's a manual process, so I know you just um approved some uh Vinny's items for IPS and looking at the IPS replacement.

Hopefully, through that process, you know, we'll make some progress.

My supervisor team met with uh their group yesterday for you know a working group breakout session to talk about IPS.

So we're working on it, we're aware of it.

So if this is software issue, making sure that digitizing rather than manual, so that is that the that's the same.

That's the main issue for the BAA backlog.

Again, more you know, if I had more judges across.

The service of the tickets is certified mailing, so that's one issue, right?

That takes longer than just popping something in you know, a bin to go out to the county.

Is that answer your question?

You still look confused.

Okay, so I I want to make one last point was that new Americans have come to meet, got a letter, they didn't understand the process, explained it to them, and you have to, and sometimes you have to help them represent them, though.

So I and I do thank you.

Your uh Ministry of Law Charger was very uh understanding of a gentleman got a ticket, it was waived, though.

But uh, there's a lot of new Americans who do get these letters, and they don't know what it means, and I'm not being disrespectful.

Sometimes it might go under hop, or they don't understand it, then suddenly I get a call for assistance.

So it's not like no one's breaking the law off is a delay.

The there's there's a reason though.

I just wanted to point that out.

Absolutely, and I know I've mentioned to you all recently as well that I'm working on getting a resource center up and running that will help focus on pro se assistance and again just empowering constituents to make an informed decision about their tickets.

Leah, um, just wanted to ask a question about the incident that was in the news recent this week about the funeral procession.

Why did that happen?

And are we walking that back?

Sure.

So um for that particular case, um, I don't want to speak for police, so but we just had a meeting on this, so deputy chief Tom cut in if I say anything wrong.

But the governing law, right, is you can't go through a red light.

There's nothing that exempts you from going for a red light through a red light.

So there's no provision in the law that allows you to go through if it's a funeral procession.

Hence the quote from police in the articles that said you have to have a police escort.

That being said, we're all aware that the normal practice is to allow for funeral processions to go through.

Um with that, we had a meeting, we're still working on the business rules as we've shared and are modifying them as we see things come into practice.

So for that particular case, um, I spoke with the constituent this afternoon, and we will consider their payment for the ticket as the bond for an appeal, and we'll consider it with the appeal panel, and I will convey to my judges an update on the business rules, which is police will not be requiring the police escort, but they're evaluating whether we are going to require flags on all vehicles within a funeral procession, and if that is the requirement, that'll be conveyed to funeral directors.

You have to work, I think you should work with the funeral directors.

Yes, they've been in.

I think that's what someone's preferring a funeral and it goes through like butternut down to Grand Boulevard.

Uh that the funeral director does work uh with the city because sometimes there is been a police escort, yes, depending on how much, or like what some funeral directors do, they lead the procession and they have sirens going.

Yes, obviously, if that was in there, right?

There are multiple human reviews of the tickets, so by both Yanoptic and the police.

So if you see a police escort, those likely would never make it to a ticket.

It is the ones without the police escort, or in some cases the absence of flags.

And but that's I want to point out that's why we have the adjudication process, which I'm really proud about, right?

The ticket.

But you just said that the constituent has to pay for the adjudication.

That so for the adjudication process, if you have a decision issued that you disagree with, you can appeal.

So to appeal, you have to post a bond and the full amount due and you appeal it.

We hold those appeal panel quarterly.

So um that will be the payment that they remitted without appealing, right?

If they would have reached out to my office instead of the press, I would have spoken to them and directed them how to appeal right from the get-go.

And like if they want to appeal the decision, right?

Once there's a decision issued, I can't change it.

It's gone through an official adjudication process, right?

So I can't just you know, undo the decision.

It has they have to take it to the next administrative step, which through our processes to appeal.

All of our tickets to appeal, you have to post a bond and the bond is held in escrow.

If you win on appeal, which it is likely these tickets will win on appeal, um, although I can't guarantee the outcome that bond gets reimbursed to you.

I I know we're growing moving um a little long, but I just want to say this, right?

Because through my whole history of life, when there was funerals, they had processions.

Yes, and you always went through them.

So where does the empathy come in?

Where does the compassion come in?

So are we able to wave?

Um, are we able to waive any of that rules for a funeral procession if someone was to be able to prove that they were at a funeral that day in time within that person workaround?

So that is what we're getting to again, right?

With automated programs, as we've all discussed, you have the law, and because they're automated, they are strictly enforcing the law.

But at the end of the day, they're police tickets.

So police can say, you know, we don't do police escorts for all punal funeral processions.

So we are going to say that there, you know, we will review those tickets.

They're not gonna give a blanket exemption because there could be other cars, you know, intermersed, and you want to ensure the state, right?

It's to ensure public safety, but the general consensus is yes, most of those have.

And I think I I'm in the process of reviewing all funeral procession.

Again, any issues that have come up in the past year with automated enforcement that I become aware of through the administrative process through the hearings and then the appeal.

Um, I go in and review them and then bring to the administration and the police department.

We should reevaluate the business rules.

The same I do with all of our other types of tickets, right?

That's part of the reason for having an administrative age of that.

Um you're saying that in the in the new version, it's probably gonna state that they all have to have a flag on their car, and that's just not what happens all the time.

I'm saying that would be up to police to make that determination, and if they decide to require that, then the city would communicate that to all funeral homes, funeral directors to advise that that would be a requirement.

So that decision has not been finalized yet.

So for uh for sake of time, and this is definitely a discussion we need to talk about, because we I mean, we do have a lot of funerals that happen in our city, and just for sake of empathy and understanding, people shouldn't be getting tickets going through it.

So maybe we should have a committee meeting.

I'll make sure I'll let Corey know, and should have a million dollars.

And I could say it's less than two dozen tickets that I'm in the process of reviewing out of you know, thousands of tickets.

So I don't think it was a big issue.

And again, I think my department is handled with police most of them.

Um, and I think this one would have been resolved and we would have finalized the policy with the process doing what it's supposed to do.

How does Jenny know you have a flag on your car?

You can see it in the video.

There's an 11-second video for all red light violations, so um, you can see like the flags.

Sometimes you can see the hears.

Okay.

So for instance, if I've had funeral directors reach out to me and I view the video, I can see the hearse, so I can go in with police's um consent and void that ticket out.

So we'll we'll definitely this is definitely a sensitive conversation and definitely needs to be addressed.

So we'll definitely come back to this one.

Absolutely.

Um, I think we're all definitely great.

Thank you.

Um, okay.

88.

Oh, there you did it.

I know, but it wasn't really we did it, but we didn't do it.

So we're gonna go bring it back real quick.

I got there in counselors, yeah, maybe the 88.

Ever loving budget director, yeah.

I think Beth tried to cover it earlier, she could get at here.

Um in the adopted budget, you approved a water rate increase.

This is effectuating that.

So this is the implementation piece.

There's a there's a new letter, right?

Yeah, I think there's a new letter.

Um something, yes, roughly seven dollars a year.

Yeah, yeah.

That's something too much.

How much more?

In a year.

So it's going from two percent to four percent.

Right, depending on the clear the the short title is a little confusing.

So it wasn't a water rate increase last year.

So it's just raising water rates four percent.

It was ten, then it was uh increase two, and now it's increased four.

So over multiple years.

We want three years, like just like our years back.

So that's what it was.

Four percent now.

We know that.

Yes, it was approved in the adopted budget.

No, no, read the amendment to go up.

The two percent there was a two percent increase on a 10 percent on a 10% um rate last year, or whenever this whenever 20, whatever, whatever.

And so now, thank you, Evan.

Thank you, Evan.

Um we holding that.

Yes, I think this oh uh yes.

Commissioner of assessment.

Good afternoon, council.

We're hoping to um amend ordinance number nine of 2023.

This was a standard uh commissioning of an appraisal uh for tax tertiary purposes.

Uh subsequent to this, there are 12 more properties at issue, several more years at issue at this point.

So we're just expanding the scope of the appraisal to cover all of those per uh judicially ordered uh November 2026 appraisal exchange date.

It is pretty well everything on the 400 block of Solar Street.

Uh it's yeah, 20, 2023 parcels in total, um, including stretching to the south of there.

Um I I should add that we've got a replacement letter that probably is in the clerk's office at this moment.

Right here.

Had a little two and fro with um and it means with the appraiser.

Um are we keeping that in these ideas?

Are we are you holding it?

So we are I'm sorry, no, we very much wish for this to be voted on so we can get going on what's you know, fairly fairly big project.

Um keep it keeping on track with the judge.

So sorry, is this connected to any of the bonds that Destiny had received from SIDA?

I mean, I definitely shouldn't speak to that situation.

Um, but I don't see how no, this is this is um just a routine article seven matter or series of article seven matters, just challenging us over the assessed value.

Thank you.

Thanks all.

Thank you.

Item 90.

90s being a help.

All right, yeah.

Okay, so 90s being a help, I guess.

Guess what?

We're all set.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay.

Um Counselor Joe Strauss, sir.

Uh thank you, madam president.

I have um item 91.

Um, which we can discuss, but uh, think it is this one?

No, that's not it.

Okay, go on.

Uh good afternoon, counselors.

Michelle Slavianski, Deputy Commissioner of Neighborhood Development.

Uh item number one uh 91, excuse me, is an item to accept uh 765,000 dollars from the office of the attorney general from New York State.

So uh these were for uh resources that were uh turned over to us uh by the AG's office pursuant to litigation against Green National uh for their properties.

So um they have uh designated uh the emergency repair program as well as the community ambassador program for um kind of uses of those funds.

So uh the ambassador program was something that uh grew out of uh prior uh pilot programs uh uh uh sponsored by the AG's office uh related to settlement funds uh and uh indirectly the emergency pair repair program was as well.

Um so we are very appreciative of uh their support and uh their efforts to uh hold bad actors accountable and work with municipalities in the ways that they have been.

So is is important to go to the emergency repairs is did that directive came straight from the attorney or did we have a lot of people.

Yes, they were clear that they wanted us to uh put the resources back into something that was kind of germane to uh issues related to um problem problematic rental property owners and uh things within kind of the the code enforcement healthy housing stability ecosystem.

So with that being said, that um uh Michelle and I talked about an agreement uh being attached to this here.

Um and also I was wondering, Michelle.

Um, isn't um these programs already set up?

Should we be increasing uh the amount not to seed in something?

Uh yeah, so we're awaiting a response from uh the AG's office as far as uh whether or not they're requiring an agre an agreement, and we'll make sure we get that over to you as soon as we hear and then to answer your question.

So if um if they're requesting that to go there, then it got to be an agreement attached somewhere.

Something got to be signed.

And someone from finance can speak to this, but I think the consensus was that the best practice was going to be that these be set up as a designated account.

So if that's the case, then it um is being set as set up to go to benefit these programs that already exist.

So I'm what I'm asking is that do one of these programs here, um the ERP or whatever, do it need to be amended to increase the amount not to exceed, or I mean, like there's there's there should be some connection here.

Yeah, so uh the way that ERP is the same.

Because right now there is no account number that's I put it on the agenda because I get it, you know.

Yeah, uh, but there's no account number associated in the county.

Account number to be uh determined kind of by the commissioner of finance for the ERP program right now.

The other fund source that we are using is uh through federal dollars, and so that has to be set up as a different account because there's different program terms.

I think that we gotta we gotta do that before it can be passed.

Um I have a code number.

Can this be ready by Monday?

Yes, I would think I would think so.

With this the emergency repair, this is going to is this to home headquarters?

No, so this is the city's emergency repair program.

It has to stay, it's for uh code enforcement specifically to cure code violations that are outstanding and uncorrected by property owners.

That's why we have to must stay with the city because of the way that that works legally.

Yeah, that's why it's important for it.

That's how I was seeing if okay.

With that being said, so the ambassador program, which investors so this is simply to accept the funds for that purpose.

So we would still need to have follow-up conversation with the council through a different legislative item about uh awarding those funds through uh an RFP processing contract.

Whether um you're gonna permit, you know, whether you're gonna amend something to add that money to the you know what amend um the ERP or the ambassador program or whatever.

Well, there's a bigger problem because this states that um the program is to be supplemented by the existing commitment of a 200 from, but they didn't get that.

They it wasn't they pulled out.

I so I copied and pasted this kind of from uh what was initially uh within there, I think the timing of how these two things happen relative to uh our communication with the AG's office and then the city budget process.

Um I think that uh we will ensure that the AG's office is kind of clear on where um the status of this was correct at the time that uh we put this forward for the current budget year.

That was the accurate amount, and they were aware that uh we could not make any guarantees uh on behalf of the council for fiscal year 26-27, understanding that it had not happened.

So I need to be clear on how much is going to the each yes.

They're asking the amounts that are deposit to the amounts that are listed in the letter.

The positive to, you know, that's the part that's missing positive.

So but maybe we can accept this funding and then amends amends on a side.

We absolutely can.

No, no, but we're not gonna though.

Why wouldn't we want to accept this before the end of the second time?

We're gonna have the information first.

Okay, wait, it's just the process.

Um, that's all at least.

Um go on to be able to clarify that again first assistant.

Um typically when we accept money for a designated special account, it's placed in that account for a specific purpose.

So I believe we could accept that money, have it designated by finance as a special account, but then the department would have to come back and appropriate that money for any use.

I think it couldn't be used without future council appropriation.

Yeah, I understand that, but in this case it's a different kind of story.

Um being that we know where this money is going.

Uh this money is set where it's going, and there's already accounts set up for this uh money right here.

So all I'm saying is that um we uh accept uh to be deposited into and we keep moving.

But but at the same time, sorry, madam clerk, just as clarification, right?

While we do have accounts for the emergency repair service, and we have accounts for theoretically the um ambassador program that we've RFP'd in the past, but this money is coming in under a different header, and you you can correct me if I'm wrong, finance, but it seems cleaner if we accept it into a specialized account so that it we can track it with the AG's office, and then when we appropriate it, you move it to the accounts that it needs to go into.

It's pretty much already saying where it's going though.

Yeah, so it's not a good idea.

I hear what you're saying, but I mean it seems like if there's a need to be changed.

Yeah, there's a quick way to do this that doesn't seem difficult.

I gotta get out of here a little bit more because I I just was having a conversation with um the person that put together legislation and we're talking, we'll figure it out, and we'll get it.

Yeah, I think we're yeah, I don't think no one has a problem with our make sure that we these short titles face to say what's going direction.

Thank you.

No, it uh we're talking right now.

We get it right.

I just wanted to put it on the agenda with the uh counselor's drums here.

Are you gonna take that?

Yeah, 92.

Uh Madam President, I have item number two is a uh joint um uh item between councillor Monto and myself, and it is to um adopt the uh climate change action plan on which is gonna be held.

Um told okay.

So that'll be held for further discussion.

Hopefully by um hopefully by Monday we'll know something.

Yeah, okay.

All right, all right, moving on.

And then you're gonna take Council Ramontos, right?

Yes, go ahead.

Um, for counselor Monto, um, he has item 93 through 95.

So 93.

Good afternoon, council.

Jake Dishhaw, deputy commissioner of code enforcement and zoning.

Item number 93 is a special use permit to establish uh a neighborhood market convenience store at 222 Messina.

This is a it's an existing store.

Um five people spoke in favor, no one spoke in opposition.

Uh they've uh complied with uh Syracuse Police SEPTED evaluation with the conditions that the police department wanted for better security.

And any questions on that one uh item number 94, similar existing uh corner convenience store under a neighborhood market land use now at 500 Oakwood.

Uh nine people spoke in favor and none in opposition at the Planning Commission meeting.

They too also complied with Syracuse Police Septed evaluation and conditions for uh security.

So what is the um what is the uh for tobacco sales and all that stuff like adjacent to a school?

So they this uh that this location at Oakwood cannot sell tobacco any longer.

Um they were selling tobacco prior to our local tobacco license, so they were grandfathered.

Yeah, but um Syracuse police caught them um selling cannabis and stolen second hand goods.

Um and then we we basically didn't smile then we didn't renew their tobacco license, which was non-conforming at the time.

They sued us, we went to court, and the court upheld our denial for the tobacco license.

So um this store is no longer selling tobacco, and they can't because they're too close to Dr.

King.

Yeah, okay, so because they're reaching out to counselor, so I am not for it.

They can't say I know okay.

All right, next one.

So wait a minute.

Nope.

So that's good.

So what are they are actually asking for what?

So prior to rezone, these were just governed as like general retail, like the same as a clothing store.

They now they now fall into a specific land use category.

We call it a neighborhood market.

Um that requires a special use permit in certain zone districts.

So existing stores are applying for these so they can become conforming to the zoning code.

I also think it strengthens our ability for enforcement because if they're bad actors, we can strip their special use permit through you all.

Um they also require a C of U, so that's the reason why.

So I'm gonna be honest.

I'm over all these corner stores and populate in our community, right?

I don't know anything directly about this store.

This one is the one across from your church.

I know.

Oh just trying to what I would advise is if if you want to have a conversation about that overall, um, we can, but it this meets the zoning criteria in that zone.

So have they already been in trouble before?

Um, yeah, from what I just not allowed.

That's something that can be discussed.

Say that again.

We're letting them open without sending the tobacco.

That's what this is asking, yes.

And no alcohol.

Uh and no e things, it's like 10, 20 feet from King school.

I will have to double shut up.

Those are all important to make sure none of that's going on.

Yes.

Yeah, uh Barry is advising that there is alcohol sales, but no tobacco.

It's 20 feet from a school.

You want to fold it.

Yeah, we can hold it.

Let's hold it on.

Okay, yeah.

Okay.

All right.

Um, last one is a special use permit to establish a commercial food establishment.

That's the land use terminology.

This is what's known as a commissary kitchen.

It's for caterers and food trucks, which by state health law, county health law require a brick and mortar home base location.

So uh if you recall, just to recap, we changed it from uh Tommy's bar and restaurant to Tommy's diner, which has really not been operating.

Um, and now they want to establish this commercial food prep, which it would not be open to the public.

It's for food trucks to dump their gray water.

They have to have these locations in order to operate.

So we've been hearing from a number of food truck operators and from the health department that these brick and mortar commissary kitchens are needed in the community.

So I I didn't mean to interrupt you.

No, but I don't uh uh my question is have we set uh a scheduled time of operation where these food trucks will be allowed to go in, whatnot, because the the parking lot is not big.

Yeah, and I don't want anyone to be parking on the street.

Right.

You know, no, they're they're not allowed to park there long term, they're not allowed to idle there, they're allowed to come in, shut it off, go in, do what they need to do for a few minutes and get out.

Okay, because um I just speak with the owners of Wolf's Den.

They really don't have an issue about it right now, but I am and I am concerned though that there might be some abuses though.

So we're we're I mean we're getting another chance though, really.

Yeah, I mean, we did already this body approved the special use permit for the diner.

So this is this is an attempt to change from the diner to this use.

Yeah, this is good for startup businesses.

Well, yeah, it it is.

You know, I don't I don't uh I don't check there, but I just want to make sure that we have enforcement of the hours, and it's gonna be seven days a week.

Am I correct?

Uh yeah, um, there are a number of conditions that are in the planning commission um approval or recommendation of approval.

So a lot of this we thought through with uh you know neighborhood um you know comments with dinner butter, um, but also the the need for the operation.

Um they mentioned some caterers like bakers, they have like a cookie bakery that is in early, but food trucks might be they might need it later in the evening to go uh dump their gray water because there is a kitchen, it's cleaned in there and wants to be utilized, but uh I never got any comments from the other businesses.

Right, they say except you know, Wolf's can they don't have a problem with that.

So what I can offer is again, I think I'll point to the conditions uh within the planning commission's recommendation.

If those are adopted by this body, and if any of those are violated, we can generate a report, and this body can revoke that special use permit, similar to what we did when they were the bar restaurant the first time.

Yeah.

Well, I have you here since we've been here an hour and a half.

I got one more question.

It does have to do with this.

I just want to um put it out there because I'm gonna come back to you.

The trucks, the dot trucks coming in and out of Oakwood in that community.

Going down Garfield, going down Garfield.

Sorry, and they're parked in in Tucker's parking lot.

It is in part of it, but they're we're getting calls, we're getting complaints, we're getting issues on that because they're riding up and through so they're like cutting through between like called and parked there, dear.

Oh, they're parked on Oakwood.

They have uh a parking space, but within the parking space, they're traveling back and forth through that street, which is that means that we have to figure out something.

That's uh Lieutenant Romain's special, so connect with me offline.

He's standing right there.

Okay, okay, so we're gonna move on.

Sorry, LT.

Yeah, we're good.

Okay, uh item 50 96.

We're all set, ready to go.

Yeah, 90s.

Very good.

97.

Yeah, well, we got 30 more minutes with these items.

So this item is is here.

We're we are going to have a committee meeting.

Um we are waiting for Eric, Sue Katsov, Joe Barry to give us some tool fee schedule, the the time, um the time as to when the um the request can come to the council.

There's all of a lot of stuff being entertained.

But all of that is depending on the fee schedule as and Sue's working on that.

When can we expect that?

Yeah, so uh we will have that to you by tomorrow morning.

By tomorrow morning, okay.

Okay, so okay, so we're adjourning.

Thank you.

Thank you.