Good afternoon.

We're gonna start our study session.

Thank you for joining us today.

Are there any resolutions?

No.

No.

Okay, so moving from there.

Counselor Cutwell.

Yes, thank you.

Thank you, President.

I have items 11 and 12.

And this was we had a public hearing on Monday at 5 30 regarding naming uh Mr.

Barnett and Mr.

Gunn, Homer Wheaton, and Magnarelli Senator Court after Mr.

Barnett, and we had several people come out and speak about high net.

It was really nice, and I'm looking forward to it.

But we're all set.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

Councillor Majok.

Thank you, Madam President.

I have item 13 to 42.

Is Eric here?

Okay.

Or item 13.

Yes.

Yeah.

Go ahead.

It's still Magnurelli Center.

The center is called Magnarelli.

But it's the Magnarelli Center.

That's why.

Okay.

All set.

All set.

All right.

Um what updates do you have for us?

We we I mean we've got can we go back a little bit?

Is Joe here?

I'm sorry about this.

Yeah, nobody wants me to do anything today.

All right, we'll wait.

We'll wait to talk to Joe about because we got okay.

Go on.

I I want to talk to him about the home weekend.

You know, as well.

Do you want to do that off the mic?

Yeah, that we're I'll just wait till Joe because um yeah.

Because I probably need to be on record.

Oh okay.

Okay.

Thank you.

No, we should.

Can I move on?

Thank you.

Yes, go.

I can?

Yes.

All right.

Eric, um, item 13.

We have been meeting trying to figure out some stuff.

Have we where are we going to be able to do that?

Correct.

So uh so based on uh good afternoon, counselors.

Eric on us with the mayor's office.

Um based on the latest feedback that we've received.

So we are presenting uh and we'll be submitting a revised version of the document that outlines the changes.

That's gonna incorporate some of the things we talked about, which include the um restructuring of how the sidewalk closure, that first area, that first column uh being more of a small building project of a three-story or less building, and then if you have more than four stories, it has the upper um the higher the higher fee associated with those sidewalk closures that's renewed every 14 days.

The other thing that we're doing is redefining the high density area.

So this is based on our conversation about moving away from the business improvement districts, focusing more on using zoning, so focusing more on an MX4 and an MX5 district that has the ability to expand and more broaden what what is included in that high district um classification.

And then in a similar vein to that, on the violation side, based on the fact some of the feedback from counselors around the violations, anything in the higher density MX4 and MX5 will be subject to the higher violations if there are right-of-way violations as well.

And so we'll submit that information.

Uh that'll be forthcoming, and then it will include the additional language that was proposed with the exception of the um changing any change of the 90-day closure timeline based on again feedback um that we would not um have language included in that for a vote for Monday's meeting.

And then I think the last piece is um for the current com stock closure.

Um the fact that we are now there's a renewal of that that's needed.

Uh we would do a waiver item that would come before for Monday's vote for a 90-day extension.

And so that would be able to backdate us through June 30th from um.

Not non refundable portion.

Correct.

The other thing was the indexing of fees.

I think we also the indexing of fees as well.

We incorporating that language.

So is the 90 day extension then gonna be under the new ruling?

Correct.

So it would be under that new fee schedule would come into place.

It would be effective.

Um, I think immediately as long as soon as the ordinance goes into effect.

Um so yes, that would go into effect, and then at the same time, we'll do the 90-day closure.

Okay, do we have the letter or 90 days?

We're working on that right now.

So we're looking to get that submitted as soon as possible.

Okay.

Is that a waiver?

Yes.

Yes.

Eric, I have a question that I just noticed today.

Um that I don't know if this was added or I just didn't catch it before, but there's um something in there stating waivers for projects involving government entities, and it's my understanding that that has been used and abused in the past.

Um so I just want to know what what do you consider that?

Because that would mean like things like the aquarium, or if OSAIDA were to give somebody uh a waiver, then that would also include things like that tax breaks, county grants, anything like that would not then they would be considered government entities.

I think we would be losing a lot of revenue in the city if we do that.

Well, so um an example I can give is particularly government, including the city of Syracuse, if the city is doing a roadway project, um that if if ultimately there are for other government agencies, particularly anything above the city of Syracuse, like the state of New York or the county, um, they are not subject to the same fee, like the same permit application process, some of those, particularly for public agencies, uh, there is not the requirement to have to go through the same permitting process that um private applicants do.

And so I understand that, but if if a private applicant is given a grant by the county or by the state, do that does that consider them a government entity because they receive grant funds from those places?

No, so I think in that case, we are talking about it would it really is primarily focused around it if it's a public entity ultimately that is undertaking uh or doing the work associated with the right of way, and that is something where if it's a public agency that is doing that right of way work, that is where there would be they're not subject to those same requirements okay.

Any other questions here?

Could you speak to the rationale behind having flat fees versus proportional fees?

I'm worried that for larger projects, these are not these fees are not um prohibitive, and for smaller projects, they may be too prohibitive.

So in the flat fee, and just want to confirm are you related to land closures and road closing?

Lane closures, road closures, the uprooting of trees or unauthorized tree removal.

Um so I think the tree point is is one that we can also take a look at.

I think my understanding is that some of the fees and and I think by I think this is more violations related, maybe just to your question.

Some of that is based on the number of inches within the trunk that's being torn down.

So there is from a proportional standpoint of depending on how mature the tree is, and obviously we want to disincentivize um any of our mature tree canopy that we have.

So some of that is built in.

So would the $300 be a max cap, or would that be where we start?

Um and I'm sorry, counseling.

I'm reading this wrong.

No, no, no, that's okay.

Um the tree specific related fees.

Let me go back and just make sure I have that understanding correct of the differentiation.

I know that there is language included in there around the again per inch diameter.

So that is $300 per diameter inch.

So yes, I'm sorry, I'm just I'm reading this to confirm your question, but it is based on per diameter inch.

Okay.

And is that the same for things like not installing maintaining pedestrian work zone traffic control?

So there are some of these fees that do are applied on a per day basis.

Um, I'm just trying to verify your question here.

So there are, yes, so the ones that you're referencing again right above that, those are also per day.

Um so the intention here is I think that you know we are we're looking to make sure this is something that there is a straightforward way to administer this and that the table is then straightforward and how these are calculated.

Um, but there are some of these that do build that in based on the you know length of the violations, and then to your point about trees, that there's a difference between a mature tree versus a new planting.

So basically how how large a tree is because it it take it take resources to grow those trees, and depending the side on the size of that tree.

Yeah, right.

It it's this it was it was our city forestry team that directly weighed in at the time when and this is this is based on the current Steve here.

Steve Harris?

I I don't believe it is um but this is this was really designed to to disincentivize and make it more costly uh if you are tearing down a mature tree, which of course we don't want to see happen um unless necessary.

Um but so there that's what the sliding scale is based on how mature and how large the tree is.

And I'm I'm just I'm asking because I don't want us in a situation where paying the violation for unpermitted work or paying the violation for harm that the city would then have to remediate is going to be something that a project manager is willing to take on.

And I also want to make sure that if it costs us more than $300 per inch of trunk space to replace that tree that we are building that in.

Okay.

All right.

I do so I I think one of the things we have been trying to do is differentiate between smaller projects and then more larger scale developments, and I think we have we took we talked about this in the committee meeting but for um for single and two family for for small, you know, residence.

I realize those are capped.

Yes, right.

Exactly.

So we built in the cap to try to account for that too.

Other questions.

Thank you.

Eric will wait for that updated letter.

Yeah, that information will be forthcoming.

So thank you.

Um item 14 in 15, I guess they kind of similar.

Go ahead.

Good afternoon, counselors Mary Robison, city engineer.

Item 14 is uh application to New York State DEC climate smart communities grant program to do a um watershed equivalent study of Onondaga Creek, uh hydraulic and modeling, flood miss flood risk mitigation alternatives and um associated cost estimates.

It's uh total cost of 420,000 dollars with a 20 percent local match, which is 70,000 local.

This is an ongoing effort to try and um implement flood mitigation projects along the creek and thereby reduce uh the number of people in the hundred-year flood plain um so that they don't have to pay flood insurance.

Okay, how how I I remember when I was a district counselor in the valley, you know.

Um the creek around there used to, you know, when water rises, it used to cause problem up there.

How is how is that is that still going on now, Mary?

Well, we did do a project on Colebrook yeah, right, right.

A couple years ago, and that has helped.

That that has helped um, but that's my next um grant application as well.

But this one we did a study on Arsenal Park, which is down in the valley.

Um, but that was a very the study we did um in order to implement that project, it was a very costly project and didn't have uh it had a high excuse me, high cost benefit ratio.

So we're we need to look at different more alternatives.

So this is an effort to do that.

This would strictly be for studying, not not infrastructure work at all.

Study okay, right flood mitigation, flood study.

Okay.

All right.

Questions?

Questions.

All right, 15.

This is also a grant application with D EC water quality improvement program and the amount not to exceed three million dollars for um hydraulic study and design for the replacement of the coal brook culverts at Edna Road, Parish Lane, and Oakley Drive.

So this is um design and construction.

Okay.

As the the t town of Anadaga ever fixed their part because it was causing problems right there.

They did they did they did fix their part, yep.

Okay.

Along Edna Lane, or just upstream of Edna Lane, they put in a small wall.

Okay, okay.

That's good.

Um questions.

16 16 is uh a one-on-one sanitary offset project for lining an 18-inch combined sewer and two manholes on the 300 block of Lexington Nav to be completed by the Parkside Commons venture LLC, and this is to meet the county's sanitary sewer offset from the pro as a result of the project.

Okay, Mary, just going back to um 14 and 15.

Um how are you guys gonna be notifying residents of whatever work is gonna be happening?

Because I'm I'm gonna do that.

Well, 14 is just a study, and there would be a public component to both projects.

Okay, okay.

If the grant is awarded.

Whoa.

So um I thought we already did a study.

Is uh we did a study in the Arsenal Park area, but um that's a project the costs came back very high, and the benefit cost ratio is very high, so it's not really a feasible project that would qualify for grant funding because the benefits are much lower than the cost.

And are we able to take any of those um any of those items?

Yeah, we'll be able to take some of that study work and extend it further to look at different types of mitigation work and more evaluation, yes.

Okay, other questions 17 17 is uh the regional market mobility improvement projects for requesting to amend an agreement with Fisher Associates to add the final design services and the amount not to exceed 300,000 dollars, uh total cost not to exceed 594,000 dollars, um, and this one gets 80 percent federal reimbursement.

Okay, I have a question go ahead, Mark.

So on this project though, would there are plans for a new business coming in the area right?

Burn dairy.

So is this being done with burned dairy coming in into the regional market area, or is that going to be separate from what we are doing here?

Is that within the market within the market?

It's gonna be adjacent, it's gonna be off the NBT uh parkway.

So you're gonna make a right into the regional market, but this area has already been uh is the spaces available for the burn dairy, which is gonna be across from the regional um from the regional transportation center.

Okay, well, this project is really bike and pedestrian improvements to get to the market.

So we will you know take the information regarding the proposed burned dairy.

Um, but we won't be doing work within the market, it's only work within our street right away.

I I understand that because I did speak with Bill Fisher, and we were talking about the improvement.

So I I agree we're probably gonna have to make wider improvements because that is utilized from baseball to go into the regional market into the transportation center as well.

Wonderful.

Yep.

Just go ahead.

Uh so counselor uh Michael Collins, Commissioner for Neighborhood Business Development.

Um the we have just recently had a pre-development meeting with the market regarding the burned dairy project.

So uh engineering is getting tied in to um the the pre-planning part of it.

So we will so uh from a permitting standpoint we will ensure that engineering is tied in the entire way.

Thank you.

Sure.

How's that, Marty?

Yeah, thank you.

All right, Mary item 19 18, aren't we?

On 18.

Uh 18 is the East Calvin Street um paving project from Comstock Ave to East City Line.

This is to add the construction inspection services and the amount not to exceed 438,500.

Um this is being reimbursed with federal funds and March Iseli funds.

And it's out to bid, it's out to bid, but not planned to start during move in week for SU, correct?

But we would start then.

That'd be perfect.

Wonderful.

Thank you, Mary.

It would probably start in the fall.

When it says to City Line, Mary, when it says the city line, are you talking about going to a Seneca term?

I mean Seneca Turner.

Nottingham Road.

Oh, that way.

Yep.

Comstock through the SU neighborhood.

Oh, okay.

I thought it was sidewalks.

Okay.

All right, thank you.

Item 19.

Item 19 is our uh negative declaration for the seeker for creek walk phase three.

There's a typo in the book, should be creek walk phase three.

Um I was just asking Brian and look it up.

Um, and I didn't I wasn't able to get in touch with show to verify.

We authorized three, right?

Oh, yeah.

Okay, I thought that's we're in preliminary design.

Okay.

And should be moving to detail design.

Yeah, funding's fully in place.

20 20 is a revocable permission to SU.

Um they would like to uh do a study and install five sewer sensors in five city catch basins and um cameras to monitor urban flooding.

So when there's a storm, the sensors will go in the catch basin below the grate, and when there's a storm, uh where the sewers are starting to back up through the catch basin, this system would notify us and track um the flooding issues.

And they're it's a six-month trial.

We're installing five units uh at Harvard Place and Fellows is the first.

Rich Street is the second South Abb and MLK is the third, Malpe Street is the fourth, and the fifth is Spencer Street in Hiawatha Belouver.

Is it always where is it specific?

Are they absorbing all the costs to increment these?

Okay.

I'm sorry.

Are they absorbing all of the cost?

Yes.

Okay.

No cost to the city.

And where specifically is this, Mayor?

At intersect the the intersections that I just read.

Harvard and Fellows, Rich, South and MLK, Maltby and Spencer and Hiawatha.

Areas that flood more frequently than others.

Okay.

South Ave and MLK.

Yes.

I mean, it's probably in a catch basin.

It's not an area that floods.

Well, they they chose the areas.

University writing the chat.

I know Spencer and Hiawatha floods.

Mary Wyatt.

They might a university initiative.

Right.

Um they got funding.

Or for publication for research, what I don't it seems funny that the university is it it's really I guess they got some grant funding.

I I don't know.

I can't speak to that.

I can find Gen TIFT is the one that's been working with them.

I'm excited to see that the data is going to be shared with the city, which is a stipulation of this.

Um, based on the flock issue that we had in terms of equipment removal, I think it would be more comfortable if we had a clause in here saying that if the equipment was not removed as is stated in 16 that they're gonna do, that we would allow city staff to do so and build in a cost share to that.

Okay, I can add I can revise the letter to state that.

Yeah, would you get back to us with that before Monday, Mayor?

Yep.

Okay.

One last question, Mary is the SU determined the locations of these or the city helped them.

I think they talked to DPW sewers to find out where they have the most issues, but I was not I would have to look into that further.

Okay.

Yeah, it would be interesting to know because as stated, I've never seen South Av flood ever.

I'm sure that being or harbor and their project, they're gonna concentrate in the footprint of the university, you know.

But what are we doing?

But also if it's not in the city, yeah.

It's not in the footprint, it's just throughout the city.

Throughout the city, that's not there.

Right.

What are we looking at in a new what are we looking for in the legislation?

Yeah, uh, the pro the purpose of why they are doing this.

I think the counselors are asking to just know that.

Also, counselor asking for a claw in there other way to be able to remove equipment, just like the flock situation, not leave them all.

Right, flock came didn't remove, and then we had to take care of it.

So I just want to make sure that there's an allowance for us to do so.

Got that?

Yeah, I can modify that.

All right, we got we got a lot to do, so we gotta move.

Yeah, 21.

Thank you, Mary.

It's good to see you, especially bringing some money.

Get out of the new counselors.

Uh 21 is an in-kind donation from our lighting contractor from Roche Lighting America for me and myself and Ken to visit their facility to uh basically view all aspects of the manufacturing plan.

Did you need someone to go with you?

Yeah, I just I mean, I've never been to France, so I'm just wondering.

We got room.

Wow.

All right, this is a contractor of ours?

Yes.

Okay.

Have we had a long-standing relationship with them?

Four years.

Have they ever invited us to do their factory tour before?

No, but they did invite us to uh a summit last year.

Me and Ken went to to speak upon do they have new products or is this going to be a few years?

We are gonna visit their um research and design.

They have some new batteries out there that can uh hold up to extreme temperatures like we have.

Also the equipment that go through uh extreme temperatures as well, so they're gonna um let us see those type of uh ideas.

And the contracts that we have with uh I'm not gonna pronounce the name right.

Yes, beautiful name.

Um they are competitively bid, correct?

Yes, they're on contract till 2029.

Thank you.

Okay.

Well, enjoy yourself.

I'm not this tall.

Hello.

Hi.

Uh item 22.

Is that that you doing it?

It is.

Okay, go ahead.

Okay.

What afternoon?

Megan Vitaly, Vision Zero Coordinator with DPW.

Um, item 22.

It's good to see you here, vision zero.

We've been we've been looking forward to as well.

Yeah.

First time in the month.

Um 22 is uh for us to apply for uh a climate, actually, two climate smart communities grants um under the current CFA application process, which is due at the end of this month.

Uh one would be for uh Butternut Street, cycle track and streetscape improvements.

Uh that would be $750,000 uh total for that grant, and then the second would be for $500,000 for the Valley Shared Use Path Project.

Uh so 1.215 million dollars uh total that we'd be applying for uh and those have a 20% match.

What is the funding that we currently have for um for this project?

What is the for the total for the entire um no's the program you at the Vision Zero Vision Vision Zero?

Yeah, um these projects, neither of these projects are currently funded.

Not these projects.

Okay.

Vision zero yes is already have some funding behind it.

Um yes, there was a um previously you approved $550,000 for the Vision Zero Capital projects that were in the budget, so that was authorized a few months ago.

The date off the top of my head.

Okay.

And this is this is additional grant application to hopefully supplement that correct, but the butternut street uh neither of these projects were in that previous authorization.

So these would be additional projects uh that would be part of our bike network.

But we haven't gotten any projects underway under Vision Zero.

Um maybe we maybe I'll I'll just talk to you after because maybe we need to get some um information on more information on our total project at this point because we haven't even started anything, and now we're we're gonna be I don't have a problem putting in for other money, but the match portion when is uh I would like to see where that's gonna be going basically if we haven't started anything.

And since since you are here, because Vision Zero as we are the concept of vision zero in itself is it's an exciting uh concept, you know, in in terms of fatalities, traffic flow, and all of this.

It it's it's it's great.

Um we've been waiting for somebody to get into that position now that you are here.

I think we should have a collective conversation to see where this goes, what what's already in place where this going to just look at it all so that we can we can follow where this is going.

Um so uh I'll reach I'll reach out, somebody will reach out to you, we'll have that a committee meeting to just so everyone can be on the same page as to where we are and where we are trying to go with it.

Absolutely happy to have that conversation.

What's the deadline for this funding?

These two.

Sorry, say that again.

What's the deadline for these two pri funding projects?

What's the deadline for the oh sorry?

The CFA, all all the applications for consolidated funding application are due July 31st.

Okay, okay.

I have one question.

So we're gonna start from North Salina Street.

We're going up the Park Street.

So we're gonna have to widen the road.

We're gonna have to widen the road.

Uh we're at 30, might want to consider try to slow the traffic speeds just a bit, not that far from Franklin School.

Then we're gonna go up towards the curve.

Uh we have a situation right now.

If you look at traffic engineers, we have vehicles, double park a lot, and as we move up past Canal Street, uh sec first North Street.

We're going to go up to Butternut Circle, so it's gonna end over at Butternut Circle.

I have to say that these are long overdue.

Being involved with TNT, this is one of our projects that we had proposed over 20 years ago.

I still have the documents of improvements.

We were talking about something that was proposed by King and T North side 20 years ago, and it's been a long time coming, and I appreciate that we are getting some funding for that section though.

And uh and we're gonna end up there.

So I know you're not gonna go up towards the 1800 block of hillside.

Uh, but I think this is gonna be a uh a mass improvement.

We do need it.

Thank you.

Yeah, absolutely.

Well, 23.

Um 23 is to extend the existing contract with JMT to complete construction inspection services for the Low Dice Street's Lodi Street Striping Project, which is a previous tap award that we received.

So that's just to push the end date of that contract out so that they can finish their work.

Okay.

Are you doing 242?

Yes.

Or is that okay?

Go ahead.

Um, so 24 is to extend um the remaining one year uh renewal option uh for our term agreement uh with Fisher Associates.

Any question on 23 24?

We're good.

All right.

Thank you.

Welcome.

Good afternoon, counselors.

Uh I've got 25 and 26, and that's for the authorization of monies needed to do the design work uh for the repairs needed on the MEM garage floor.

Um, not to exceed 50,000 dollars for this questions.

Thank you.

Try to save some time.

27 and 38 are all waivers.

Um the only ones that are not proprietary or 28 and 32 and 38.

I can go through them all if you want.

The landfills are not proprietary, but I can explain if you need to.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So go individually.

Go ahead.

So 27 is uh single space parking meters.

Um the supplies and repairs are proprietary to those meters, so we got to go through those civic smart parking technologies.

Okay, 28.

28 is the one of the landfills, Camilla's landfill is the closest and cheapest for our disposable of uh construction debris.

And Okra doesn't take these excuse me.

Okra doesn't take these items, please no, no.

29 is cascades, they're the ones that gave us our carts, so their parts and handles and stuff like that are uh proprietary 30 is J and J equipment repair for sewer camera systems, those parts are proprietary as well.

Um the parts for the trash carts seem a bit high.

Um, is it any way we can get a breakdown of the parts replacements from last year's um when we started that?

Yep, I can get that to you.

Not the amount, how many did we like how much did we spend to on parts of replacement?

Because I think it was 60,000 or so last year.

And did we utilize all of that?

I can get that to you.

Okay.

If people needed replacement parts on their carts, constituents, do they contact DPW or do the sanitation workers notice them and put it in?

Yeah, we'll contact City Line and then City Line of Contact DPW, and then we'll go out and repair or replace if need be.

So 30 is J and J equipment for our search camera systems, those are proprietary as well.

31 is the automotive glass installation for vehicles.

Um not positive if that's proprietary, but I believe so, Pat.

Are you not proprietary?

So there's none of these are proprietary.

None of this so 31 was for JT automotive glass.

Uh, we've done business with them for the past god knows how long uh they do good business with us uh when we have broken windshields, etc.

Questions on that one just a question.

You said that we've been doing business with them for so long, right?

Yeah, but my thing is have we ever looked and reached out to see if we can get more of a competitive bid?

I don't have an answer for that one.

Um JT is who we've always gone with.

We can certainly look into it.

Yeah, I would like to see more of a competitive bid thing going on.

Okay, where are we at?

Uh 32 is uh Madison County landfill.

Uh they take our sweeper waste.

Uh that's the closest and the cheapest uh site to us.

Okay, they're tested.

So Camillus is cheaper for C and D.

Yes.

And this is cheaper for general mixed sweeper waste, yeah.

Okay, and we got to test it before we bring it out there, obviously.

All right, and we're doing that on uh on a tipping fee basis or on a specific contract basis.

I to the gist of the contract I I can't tell you offhand, but I will get back to you on that one or have Deputy Commissioner and Fordot get that back to you.

And and while it is very possible that one is cheaper than the other in terms of materials costs, if we're going to two different sites, it might not be cheaper overall.

I can she'll she'll definitely have that breakdown because she shops the cheapest.

I just wanted to add that like the um waiver competitive bids.

If there's a significant change in the amount, Ryan or I would get in touch with you all and say, hey, this went up 50,000, this went up 40, 100,000, whatever, just so you all can know most of these, and if they're not annual, I'll get in touch with you all and say, hey, this is not an annual waiver competitive bids.

This is new.

So just let you know that if I hadn't gotten in touch with y'all, these are pretty much been that they've been doing 33.

All right, 33 is another proprietary uh company, uh Northeast Signal Traffic.

Um the draw traffic signals and stuff, so the repairs and services are proprietary.

Uh 34 is new way concrete equipment.

Um our hydraulics, that's proprietary as well.

Um 35, the break and supply do our brakes proprietary as well.

Can we go back to 33 for a second?

Okay.

Um so these are the traffic signal controllers that we use with the fire department, correct?

33?

Yes, 33.

Okay, yeah.

Um, are they the same companies that are utilized in the county?

And do have we talked with Centro about traffic signal control compatibility?

Those answers I would have to get to you.

Okay, thank you.

No problem.

Um I'm not sure where I left off.

Okay, 34.

34?

Okay.

I think we did 34.

34 is there.

Okay, 35.

Okay, 35 is the brakes.

I think we did that one as well.

Uh 36 is uh transmissions, same thing proprietary as well.

Same thing proprietary as well.

And 37 is for our mowers, those parts for our uh professional turf services, those are proprietary, and last but not least 38 consella.

Um we take our hard fill their uh closest, cheapest so from 27 to 38 38.

Those are now how many of these I are our companies that are within the city limits.

Uh you want me to go through them right now, or you want me to get back to you?

No, no, get get back to us.

Okay, get send us send us an email with them if you could.

So we have 27 to 38.

So was that 11 items?

We'd like to know how many of them are okay.

Gotcha.

Only five six.

Just the waiver items, right?

Uh huh.

Just the waiver items.

You're talking about it.

Yes, just the waiver item.

Yes, I get that.

All right.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Good.

Appreciate it.

Thank you.

39.

Hello, Commissioner.

Good afternoon, counselors.

Robert Brant, Commissioner Water.

39 is uh application and agreement to and with the U.S.

Environmental Protection Agency for a grant not to exceed 1.92 million to be used for lead service line replacements within the city, no local match required, and that was something that uh Senator Schumer, Senator Gil Gillibrant, and Congressman Manion really worked hard on for us.

So we're looking to do that.

Um 40 through 42, start with 42.

That's authorization.

Um the chlorine convergent replacement project out at Skniatlas to replace the existing chlorine gas, and we're looking to switch that over to uh liquid sodium hydrochloric chlorite bulk storage tanks.

Um we're looking to get rid of the gas out in Skiny Atlas.

Um that's you know, working with the state and the EPA.

Um, we really need to get rid of that.

They prefer yeah, that's kind of obsolete now.

Not many people are using chlorine gas anymore due to you know environmental issues and stuff.

Um 40 is um, I mean uh 41 bond um for the 10 million dollars for the project, and 40 is to apply for an application agreement with the New York State Environmental Facilities Corporation of state water grants, an amount of five million dollars.

So we'd like to apply for a grant to help cover this cost, um, and that's for the chlorine gas.

How long would this project take?

Because it seemed like it's gonna be a huge project, the uh the chlorine replacement.

So I'm hoping to have the project kick off in the summer of next year.

It's in design right now.

Um we're already designing it.

There was a previous um it came to you guys previously a few years ago to kick this off.

It kind of got pushed aside.

Um we're getting it back in line.

Um so we're hoping construction will be done by 2028.

Spring.

Commissioner, is it a the we're gonna bond for 10 million dollars and the the the application is five to to cover half of that?

Yes, minus the 1.5 local match.

Yes.

So if we get the grant, we'd be out six and a half million.

Okay, okay, I gotcha.

Just had to do the math in my head here.

Commissioner, a little off topic, but we've had three sinkholes in the past week in the city.

Are they interrelated or are they all separate incidences?

All separate incidents.

Um the one on Warren Street, the main was put in in uh 1891, 130 years old.

Yeah, um, a lot of factors play.

We have a lot of construction going on in the city with the 81 project, the heat.

Um, and and I try to tell people they call them sinkholes, they're actually cave-ins.

The water main breaks, it pushes all the soil out of the ground, the road caves in.

Sink hole would be more if the the ground itself eroded, and there was no explanation for it.

Yeah, um, the one on Bernard Ave was minor, it was a hydrant branch that was leaking, soil gets wet, soil settles, the tar gave out our crews are down there today.

They'll have that back up in operation.

The restoration, the the water mains on um, so the one at Harley Davidson on Gettys, that was a hydrant branch off a transmission line, that wasn't the 24-inch line.

Um that's all been repaired.

The one on Guttis Street was the 24-inch transmission line, which supplies most of the water to the city.

Um that's been repaired.

Now it's just getting the restoration back.

Yeah.

I just want to extend thanks to you and your crew for working over the holiday weekend.

Yeah, they worked a lot hours.

Yeah, they worked 20 hours straight to get it done.

So let them know we appreciate them.

Commissioner, um, I just wanted to ask about the um I thought we had sensors on some of the underground types as well as some of the trucks.

Um as far as the trucks, what do I mean what is their regular routes?

How where are we detecting stuff at?

So so we have right now we have hydrant sensors throughout the city that will tell you we'll get alarms after there's like a pressure reduction in the system, and then we go out and we correlate and we sound for leaks.

These were kind of just breaks, they weren't leaking first, they just gave away.

Um, and on that day we got every detection device went off, but we got it shut down within half an hour and everything came back.

But um, the sensors are more for letting us know there's something going on so we can check it before it gets on the pipes, correct?

That's on the fire hydrants.

Okay, and then what about the I thought we had vehicles that also rode around and did something.

No, we we have uh a contract with American Leak Detection.

They go out, they correlate areas, we give them areas of the city.

Um we hit most of you know, we we start out with the streets that we're gonna do recon work on first, so we can make sure there's no leaks before we pave them.

Um they go and hit them streets.

We have a team of of uh employees that go out and do leak detection sounding different areas, but we have no vehicles that sound for leaks.

What was the what was the American what?

American leak detection.

Yeah, thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Counselor Aaron Ray.

Thank you, Madam President.

I have items 43 through 61.

43 and 44.

Good afternoon, Saisha Burr, Commissioner of Parks.

Um 43 is a bond ordinance that goes along with 44 for burn at park improvements.

Um, not to exceed 450,000.

It would address accessibility issues, health and safety needs, um, improvements to the arts and crafts center, athletic complex, the cover turf, pool, bath house, courts, and related park infrastructure.

Okay.

Items 45 and 46.

45 is bond ordinance for um park facility improvements, not to exceed um 750,000 dollars that it goes along with the authorization number 46.

That's replace, repair, engineering, construction, design, and general improvements for all park facilities 47 is bond ordinance and 48 is authorization for the Westminster um stair reconstruction project.

Not to it's so it's 250,000.

Um, excuse me, not to exceed 1.7 million.

It includes 450,000 from one account, 250,000 from another, 600,000 from New York State, that Dasney Grant, Dan's new grant, sorry, and um total project not to um exceed three million 49 is the bond ordinance and 50 to go the authorization um for the Westminster um track, the pump track project.

Yeah, West excuse me.

West I'm a little under the weather, sorry, with allergies.

Um, but it's the West Side Pump Track Project at in Lightart Park.

Um, not to exceed 300,000.

Commissioner, wasn't it that 350 at the committee meeting?

Didn't we talk about that?

No, am I wrong?

It was 300,000.

Okay, my apologies.

I just wanted to note, Commissioner, that we did receive a number of letters from constituents talking about the importance of having a pump track in the city of Syracuse and the engagement with Light Art Park in the community that it that it represents.

So I wanted to give you a copy, and I've handed them to my colleagues as well.

Okay, thank you.

51 and 52 is the bond ordinance and authorization for I'm traveler's rest abatement and improvement project, not take seed 200,000.

That's the little building that sits in like off Kirk Park.

It needs some work.

Our goal is to one day turn it into something that we could use for the trails, whether it be bathrooms, a nature center, um office space, but we can't do that until the abatement gets done.

And I would want to like just stated that see it utilized for something for the trails, and highly considering someone there with canoe rentals.

Oh I could have with canoe rentals or kayak or cooking rentals.

Kayak kayak rentals.

Noted.

I don't know if you work with the Creek rats for that or not, but with it with that being the inlet right there.

It's like the perfect place for the trails.

Bath there's nowhere if you're on the trail to stop and use the bathroom.

We get people from out of town that stop and ask, hey, is there a bathroom around?

Is there a place to grab something?

You know, a vending machine, anything.

So it could be part of that space.

Um 53 and 54 bond ordinance and authorization for um Homer Wheat and concession and splash pad not to exceed 450,000.

And Commissioner, I know that you weren't here for our public hearing the other night, but just wanted to share with you and with everybody how much love was in the room that evening as we were talking about Alphonse Gunn and Dennis Gardner.

Um, very well received by the community and appreciate the improvement.

I had a lot of people call me about those two.

They're just great people that've done a lot, so appreciate it.

Council President, it might be a good time to intersect the two down.

Councilor Ann, right?

Um at the public hearing, well, prior to the public hearing, um, counselor um counselor um Codwell and Um and Commissioner got in touch with me about extending um the uh public hearing to be uh for the fill as well, the baseball field as well.

Now I know we had already put the public notice out and everything, right?

How can we um can we possibly do another public hearing and an amendment uh for it to be voted on uh like Monday at one o'clock and and then be voted on on Monday as well?

Can we somehow work it in there because they they want to do an addition to the concession stand at the baseball field?

Uh we and the public hearing was last night.

It was talked about, but what do you know they want to do the park?

Yeah, they want to do they just want to the diamond baseball down there.

Yeah, the baseball.

Well, Elgun, we talk we just spoke about it.

Algun is known for that park for inner city baseball and for baseball.

But we also talked about is the concession stand is for life, right?

It's gonna stand for years and years.

I don't want to say this on the mic.

Can we always promise that there's gonna be a baseball field there?

It's converted several times to different things, ice skating, baseball.

And so I think Mr.

Gunn would be happy with the concession stand.

We can continue to talk about the baseball field.

That is what he's known for.

Yeah, right.

It is pretty cool, but yeah.

Yeah, I would be delighted to have a parks meeting about it, if that would be of interest.

No, with respect to your counselor, yeah.

Yeah, whatever y'all decided.

Okay.

It was just thinking through it, like, hey, I know him as a baseball guy, right?

So I said I would reach out to Mr.

Gunn and ask him his thoughts.

Yeah, well, one of the big things, and not to hold up the meeting, but one of the big things is when the community came and anybody that lives in that neighborhood knows Mr.

Gunn.

Well, actually, any neighborhood, but yeah, um, especially that neighborhood knows him as he keeps the park up, hopefully he cleans it up baseball.

Um, my biggest concern is you know, we never know what changes as far as in that neighborhood.

Like I said, it used to be ice skating ring deer years ago.

Um now baseball.

So if there's the concession stand, then it will always be a memory, and they'll say, hey, who was um Al Gun, you know, and then the same as you know, it's just like the park house.

We're just gonna have to make that sign big enough where everybody sees it.

Yeah.

So if you guys decide to do it later, we do it later.

I just wanted to bring it up because I appreciate it because we have been talking about it and thinking about it.

Yeah, sounds good.

I just um 55 is the bond ordinance 56 authorization for creek walk and trails visit vegetation management project.

Um for design engineer construction and purchase of material to upgrades along the Creek Walk at Empire State Trail, not to exceed 350,000.

Did you want to do the next one?

I'm gonna I'm gonna bring um Mirror Cup from Downtown Committee.

Hello, Merrica Trier with the downtown committee of Syracuse.

Um item number 57 is on behalf of the Armory Square Association, uh, to uh donate a memorial plaque in celebration of Gloria Romeo, who was a very active member of the Armory Square neighborhood, uh organized the candlelight series and a lot of other different events and promotions to draw attention to Armory Square before it was Armory Square.

Thank you, Mr.

I have a couple more.

58 is an agreement with Bruce Mobile Skating to provide multiple, it's um roller skating rental.

Um he comes in during the summer program and he provides skates and his staff to run skating at Uprian Dagger, wherever we do our citywide event.

We also have use his services for the current roller skating rank.

Um which will I will have more dates coming up.

Um it'll be announced later on today, it will be open throughout the month of July with some daytime hours, some um Friday and Saturday evening hours.

So if you did not get a chance to put your roller skates on and roll across that floor, you still have time.

We're gonna have it's gonna open back up tomorrow, 11 to 2.

So our daytime hours will be 11 and 2.

So lunch hours, people can come down.

Evenings will be five to eight.

There's two Saturdays, four Friday, three Fridays through the month of we will end the month of July.

But just clarify if you have your own skates.

Oh, if you have your own skates, bring them, it's free.

If you need to rent, it's five dollars.

You can go anytime right now.

Anytime it's open dust at dawn.

So when the lights come on, it means it's closed.

Or if the lights don't come out when it's dark, it's closed.

Can we have to explain that to people who are millennials on down?

Everybody else understood that.

But yes, it's been a good time, it's been a lot of fun.

So we we'll have a if people begged for us to keep it down, so we're doing that.

Cho you coming out.

I don't know.

I want to see you on some skates.

What size?

We go up to size 15.

You all for senior discounts.

We offer close proximity to the hospital.

Walkers will be right.

All right, number 50.

Any other questions on the 58?

All right, 59.

59 is the application to an agreement to um Empire State Development through New York Kicks program to apply for a grant not to exceed 200,000 um to improve skiddie parks um soccer field and site preparation.

Awesome.

And yep, commissioner, could you also look into?

I was talking to um can't even think at a school district today about the parks and some of the things that you guys are doing, you know, uh the valley and everything.

Oh, but anyhow, skitty park.

Yep.

I love that you guys are putting this fixing and yeah, and then the kids are playing soccer.

Can we also look at like how the design was at Dan?

I mean, at um King School.

King.

Yeah, the reason we applied for the it was the the regional area for the grant.

So we had to look at what area do they serve, and that's why Skitty was chosen because I know I've heard a few times about McKinley.

We really wanted to apply for McKinley, but it's not the service area for this grant.

So we will continue to look for opportunities working with some of the foundations and grant grantors um to do that.

Awesome.

Um 60 is a bond ordinance.

61 is the authorization for Sunny Crest Park Stairs and Safety for Capital Improvement Project, not not to exceed 150,000.

Why didn't we just add that on with the other ones?

The the stairs, your separate project, PPU.

Yeah, right.

We were told that every bond has to be adopted individually for the project in case part of it is not used or needs to be used more.

Right, absolutely.

And that's all I have.

Well, that was new to me, so that was exciting.

Any other questions?

Oh, I'm sorry.

Okay, any other questions from the counselors?

I'm also a little hot set.

Thank you.

Um I have item 62.

Okay, where is Vinnie?

Good afternoon, Counselor's Vinny Scipio and Chief Information Officer.

Item 62, Gen T couldn't be here, but I work with I've worked with her for years on this project.

Um it's an amendment to our contract with our current broadband partner to for a couple of reasons.

One uh aligning with the New York State grant we previously received and the timeline associated with that.

So that's uh has construction through or you know, expansion build out through the end of this calendar year.

So to um not only allow us to uh you know uh complete that work, but also um adding a fee schedule into this contract where we've always had the intention or the desire to uh utilize this network we're building out for municipal use cases as well.

We didn't define previously uh just because we weren't at a state we were ready to do so um a fee schedule associated with utilizing the network for our purposes and the associated expense uh for our partner to do so.

So um uh that's included.

And then uh lastly, the uh you know the nine months is also to allow us proper lead time to solicit a procurement uh for a you know, we're reaching the end of this contract for uh um well, we are reaching the end by asking for an extension to be able to uh allow us proper time to solicit for a new uh well, a potentially new partner.

Uh you know, of course, our current partner can uh apply uh or or submit, but um to seek out an operator and potential entities who would want to lease uh the extra capacity we have on our network.

So any questions from my colleagues.

I know some questions did come up, Vinny.

So I'm gonna I'm gonna you know, I'm not gonna hold it.

I'm gonna meet with you and one of my counselors afterwards.

Sounds good.

You got it.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Can do you want to continue on?

Yeah, yeah.

63.

Uh, so this is just uh seeking approval for one of our team members to go to a conference uh later this month.

Uh this group Starbridge.

Uh they bring together practitioners and uh organizations to connect them and educate peers uh uh in the industry on uh you know best practices and other uh opportunities within the the technology sector and and well technology in the public sector.

So is an RFP award for IT services.

This one's uh you know been making its way to you all.

Uh um and uh yeah, so we can uh re-up our contracts for five different entities uh that we're seeking services from.

Didn't we just um award an opt in?

So that was for uh to true up through the end of last this past fiscal year.

Uh um that was to get us uh through June 30th, and now this is moving forward for essentially July 1 and starting a new three-year contract.

Uh and yeah, so in the 465 that's in, or is it for yeah, 465 year is uh you know the amount that has been budgeted for this fiscal year, so that you know eventually you know next fiscal year when we have uh another round of uh you know operational funds that are applicable to this contract, we'll look for to appropriate funds at that time to you know uh do the next year and so on and so forth.

When it's on as needed basis, correct?

Yes, so this is uh as we uh you know uh just during routine operations need access to uh uh you know certain technical services that we don't have in-house uh capacity to do.

This is when we engage uh these different groups.

Um you mentioned three years.

I we didn't get the period in the letter.

Um contract.

I will double check on it.

Okay, yeah, yeah.

Um let me double check and get back on to you or back to you on that one.

So it's gonna be IPOs.

Vinny, correct me if I'm wrong.

The five providers, we already work with each of them.

Um we have there's there is a new one in there.

So the um the five that are listed there, there is one uh through this uh RFP process that we identified, another local group that sorry terasia terakai.

Yeah, I tried.

I tried.

Yeah, that's uh that's a newer one for us.

And resubmate.

I'm sorry, so then they just review one reset meet for the three years.

They um you're gonna submit uh this is gonna be a contract, a three-year contract, right?

Uh three with two one year extensions is what we're uh so yeah, that have um that was not um got it.

But then we did the letter okay.

Yeah, we do that.

And like I like he's like Vinny said, not he said, but Vinny said that they would be on a PO like basis, you know, which is which is not bad.

But that's alright.

65, good.

Yeah, uh so 65 is an amendment to a prior authorization that we just had a short bit ago.

Uh so as a reminder, uh seeking to lease some space in uh state tower, uh some uh network equipment rack space that is, and uh this amendment is a technical change to the named entity we'll be leasing from.

Uh we had initially put it as pioneer companies who owns a building, but they lease that network clause space to a different entity who then subleases it to us.

So uh it's just a technical change there, and then also um the initial one-time stand-up cost to get into the space and configure it.

Uh, there was a uh an increase in that, so increasing that from uh not to exceed of one thousand to two thousand dollars.

Thank you.

Counselor, you will say it.

Yeah, I'm also just stick around.

Yeah, I will catch up with you after.

Thank you.

Uh Counselor Moore.

Thank you, madam president.

I have items 66 through 69.

It's Chief Mons here.

Good afternoon, Councillor Moore and everybody.

Um, I'm Mike Monzafire Chief 66 and 67.

There's a request so we can um buy new SCBAs.

They're the apparatus we use to breathe in our fires.

Um, they last 10 years, they're at the end of their life, and so we have to replace our SEBAs.

Does anybody have any questions on that?

No, the current ones are 10 years old.

Yes, they're they're approaching the end of the life.

We just got done evaluating many different um manufacturers.

Uh have a meeting tomorrow about the process moving forward with this authorization, and uh then we transition everything from the new face pieces, new bottles.

Um, we're gonna buy 180 packs that go on our back.

The 400 bottles go in those packs, all the face pieces.

We have to retrofit all of our fire trucks so the new model can fit in our fire truck.

So that's what that money's gonna do to make sure that our SCBAs have everything compatible so they can go into a fire and not breathe the smoke and toxic gases and stuff.

Yep.

Any questions from anybody?

Okay.

Okay.

So 68.

Thing 68.

Um, that's a grant that the police and the fire are going in together.

The fire department's gonna buy 12 uh radios with this money so we can communicate with the police on scene on the same radio channel, so we can have interoperable and um flawless communication, and the police are buying a couple items.

Um barrier transport vehicle, a portable digital radiography tool, cameras um that they need, but this is all through a grant.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Appreciate it.

Item 69 Councillors Richard, uh Deputy Chief Circus, please.

Um item 69.

We're looking to amend an agreement that we came before you uh already to increase the amount from 200,000 to 225,500 to pay uh not an associate's uh two invoices.

This would have been on last year's uh budget at the end of last year's budget.

Going forward, I know uh going forward you're looking at nothing.

I know, I know.

Yeah, so going forward, starting July 1, that's the um the RFP that Vinny talked about in terms of how we pay for our um tech consultants going forward.

I'm just asking to amend this ordinance so that we can pay two invoices from the last budget year.

So going forward, we'll be under the RFP under this particular item looking to amend it to pay it for those two invoices.

Does that make sense?

Yeah, you know I was coming back today, right?

Oh, I knew you were gonna say something.

Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, I just want to make sure it's clear this is last year's budget.

Going forward, it'll be under the RFP.

Any other questions?

Okay, I'll set thank you.

Counselor Wheedy, thank you.

Counselor Williams.

Thank you, Madam President.

We have um the finance agenda item 70 through 81.

Hey Vicky.

Um we might have a slight change, but we should be ready with item 70 for Monday.

I did reach out as you had requested to see if we raise the boot fee from 50 to 100, if there would be a corresponding reduction, which there would be for the um percentage instead of the city taxpayers paying 28% of the parking fines and penalties, they would reduce it down to 14% with a three percent um fee for anyone using credit card to pay for that, or they would just charge a 17% fee and then not charge for the credit card fee.

So that's something we can discuss offline, but just want to make you aware that there are options.

Appreciate it.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Um item 710.

Hi, Kristen Bennett, Director of Accounting.

Uh this is for an agreement with three plus one to provide consulting services to maximize our return.

Um for funds invested because they have the banking contacts, they know the market far better than I ever could.

Thank you.

Good afternoon, counselors even loving, budget director.

Uh 72 and 73 are regulatory requirements for tracking time work by elected officials.

This is something we do on a regular basis.

Um, and for 73 and 74, I know the executive directors here.

Um, these are agreements with Krause Marshall and downtown committee for money that was appropriate in the FY27 budget, and um 2076 is this appropriation for OHA that was in the special objects.

So I'll leave it to the directors.

Yep, and then Merrick, you want to just speak briefly about downtown committee?

Thank you.

As Evan had mentioned, items 74 and 75.

Uh these are our annual agreements uh to be able to draw down on the funds that were approved as part of this upcoming fiscal year budget.

Uh so this is our annual contract with the city of Syracuse to utilize the funds as presented during our budget hearings.

I did, and that was not included um on today's agenda, so I anticipate that would be on the next agenda.

Okay, all right.

Great.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

And Lisa Good afternoon, counselors.

Let's more, executive director of the Onondaga Historical Association.

Item 76, appropriation of funds from the special object account and the amount of a hundred thousand dollars to the Onondaga Historical Association for our service as city archivist and curator of historical documents, as well as assistance to the landmark preservation board.

We appreciate both of your work.

Thank you very much.

Thank you very much.

Happy 250th.

And item 77, I know that Commissioner OJ is not here today.

He reached out to me.

Um he told me that item 77, the origin was a documentation error, confusion between East and West Hiawatha Boulevard.

Um he will be here on Monday with any questions that we may have on that.

Okay.

And then Joe, item 78.

Yes.

Good afternoon, Joe Barry, first assistant corporation counsel.

Uh item number 78 is a continuing assessment that we receive from time to time, our c share of the cost for the lay creek uh cleanup.

It does involve a consent order, so we can go into executive session if you want to uh discuss it in more detail.

But as you may recall from previous assessments, it's an ongoing cost that we've incurred.

Yeah, but I thought that last year we were we were done with it.

No, no, you see that we'll see that I'm not right there.

Okay, it's a much bigger project.

But if you want to have executive session, yep.

Thank you.

Uh so continuing.

For uh, you know, if for nothing else for a quick overview for the the new counselors who joined this January.

Yes, good idea.

But if if we could do it on Monday, that would be great.

That sounds wonderful.

Great.

How about that, Joe?

Monday?

Monday, will that work for you?

Oh, it's out.

So we'll keep quite a time.

We'll leave it up for the friends in it.

I mean, do you think we could do it quick quickly after the study session?

I don't think it'll take long.

Maybe who don't know who wouldn't understand what's going on.

Um whoever don't want to stand talk to Joe a little bit separate.

Because this is it'd be private.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay.

Thank you, Joe.

We'll we'll do that then.

We'll have individual counselors reach out.

If they feel free to reach out to me, thank you.

We work well.

Uh so continuing with the law department annual items.

Uh number 79 is our waiver of annual waiver of competitive bidding to obtain process serving services, which we mainly use for code enforcement.

And you know, these are the firms that we've found performed best over the years in different for different um whether it's local service or out of town service.

We use different firms depending.

Great.

Thank you.

Joe, I went to a very interesting uh neighbors meeting in Pond Street.

I will keep it brief for the purpose of the meeting.

Um, but um they did have some concerns about our ability to process serve and the requirements thereof, uh just in terms of making sure that code violations are are enforced and proceed.

So I did want to have a talk with you at some point about that.

Yeah, council of joke might have brought up a similar question.

Um I suggested We also had some interesting suggestions at that meeting.

I think we might want to follow up with you or office about.

I suggested we have a discussion with code enforcement because I think it involves you know procedural steps.

Okay.

Maybe we can have a quick discussion after this meeting of this time.

That probably won't work, but I think we will get in touch so we can come up with the time.

Okay.

Okay.

Thank you.

Uh item number 80 is uh waiver of competitive bidding for council press.

There are specialty service that we need to print materials for appellate courts submissions, which come up from time to time.

Thank you.

And finally, number 81 uh is our waiver of competitive bids for several companies that do title work.

Uh we mainly utilize this these services for the land bank, but from time to time there's other property issues that come up with uh different city projects that we need to do title work as well.

Great.

Great.

Any questions?

All right, thank you, Joe.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you, Madam President.

Thank you.

Uh Counselor James Traviser.

Thank you, Madam President.

I have item 82 and 83.

And uh yeah.

You want to speak on it too or do we need to um uh the AG's office item?

Uh Michelle Spianski, deputy commissioner of neighborhood development.

Uh I we did get the letter uh award letter that was requested from the AG's office, so uh I resubmitted that letter if there's anything else that is needed on our end.

Let us know.

Yeah, so we do have the letter, um, thank you for that.

Um I would like to because we because it was directed to one group without without a um RFP or RFQ.

Um, I don't know if there are other um groups with throughout the city that does any of that work, but for the future, I would probably like to see if that um was extended.

Yeah, as a point of clarification, it was designated to the program itself.

Uh the AG's office was very aware that the contract that we had only went through the uh fiscal year that just ended.

And so uh we're it's certainly we would come back to actually award any of those funds, and we're happy to do that through an RFP process.

Yep.

Okay, all right.

That's it.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Are you sick?

You still have one more, right?

One more 83, which is um, good afternoon, council.

Jake Dishaw, Deputy Commissioner of Code Enforcement and Zoning.

Item number 83 is uh application and agreement to HUD in the amount of 1.5 million dollars to deploy uh AI technology into the technical building plan review process.

So um again, HUD wants to see HUD wants to evaluate how AI would work in a real environment.

So there's an opportunity here to it would be used to actually look at the blueprint drawings, the actual design drawings.

It wouldn't be to replace the human element, it would be to cut down on uh it would be for more complete submission, more complete uh drawings up front, and then limit the review cycles for corrections.

Um that's how we envision this happening.

So um I would probably hold this item um and probably do a public hearing.

I do feel like there would be some issues um or concerns from individuals with um the use of AI technology.

Sure.

Um but I also would like to know if it's been utilized in other places and what possible issues um have arise from it.

Sure.

Um I think the deadline is Monday.

We found out about this late, so I I realize that, but I just want to put that out there.

Well, I usually have incredible sympathy towards the city staffers and particularly in terms of federal appropriation processes.

I have no interest in seeing this kind of technology um trial in Syracuse.

Counselor, I I just want to add too that um they can apply for it on their own.

Um you guys don't have to enter an agreement, so the everything can be switched up to be just apply, you know, if you guys say can we separate the separate application from the agreement if you want to do that and um before they before um administration doing anything, whether they will have the combat and then you can apply if you guys choose to do that because I let you know that.

I think that in terms of grant processes going forward, that makes complete sense because that gives the departments the freedom to put the applications in and then the council the ability to decline funding if we don't wish to see it implemented.

But I will say that given what doge did in DC last year in terms of utilizing public processes to advance a very specific industrial sector to the detriment of constituents and voters and our government structure itself, I do not see this as being interesting at all.

And that's my concern as well as far as um the possibility of the technology that um some of those AI companies are use or are wishing to utilize to um continue like segregation or um to uh not utilize not service um certain populations or areas.

So if this if I put in a certain address where this is being utilized at and is already in a well-known um red line or underserved community, is that gonna trigger additional fines, fees, uh permitting um stuff.

So that's there's a great concern.

I third debt.

Understood.

Um I do see it as an up-and-coming technology.

I think the process is to or the purpose is to help improve the timeline for planner view.

So it would be you're applying for something rather than just having humans look at the the design drawings, the blueprints, it would run through this program.

It would have the New York State code implemented into it, and that would point out what's missing or what might be incorrect.

Um I realize there's a lot more to it than that, but I I know there's also been a lot before I've been before you a lot about improving the efficiency and the timelines for permitting.

Uh this is an exploration process to see if this is something that could cut down on that timeline.

So I I am someone who grew up with um George, Jane, Judy, and Elroy.

So I've been you know looking forward to those times to come to pass.

However, with you know the young man from South Africa having more control than us, there's concern.

So we just have to take some time.

So uh Michael Callins Commissioner for Neighborhood and Business Development, first of all, I I appreciate the Jetson's reference.

Uh uh with great respect for each of the concerns raised to the point that the deputy commissioner made about this being uh very specific to plan review, which is very different than the concerns that I had or uh uh that that I heard.

I'm just curious if this is uh I mean we we'll we'll we'll talk afterwards and everything, but uh would this be something that with additional information you may all consider or it's AI and it's done.

I'm just curious so that we can uh spend our time over the next couple days.

I just want to move on to conversation.

The only reason why because they just now um administration just now said that Monday they need it to be voted on.

So I if you're but if we meet before Monday, maybe we can push something out.

But if you uh they can apply for it without your permission anyway, but um they if they um want to apply for it, they can apply for it.

Well, it doesn't uh in and uh totally recruited.

So they can apply that option, but if they receive it, they have to come back to get a permission to separate application from agreement.

Yeah, yeah.

So we'll give it a lot of things.

Uh from the fact for uh two ways, which is and this isn't to push, this is to clarify.

Uh if we separate application and agreement, the first time that we apply for something and the funder goes through the whole process and awards the grant, and then we turn it down, will also be the last time that we'll have an approval from that grantor.

So I'm always leery to put any of us in that situation.

Now on Monday.

I don't know about a committee meeting.

Yeah, I and again, this is just for clarification.

I'm not trying to push, uh, I just want to make sure that over the next few days, our staff's time is allocated in a way that's going to be useful.

That's all.

Yeah.

I appreciate everything that Jake said in terms of efficiencies, and if this was a self-contained technology that had New York State planning, and we could run our things through it.

But in terms of data privacy on the back end, I would need to know that this was a lockbox system similar to Axon.

And I don't believe that you can guarantee me that at this point.

So for me, I'm not interested in moving forward with it, but I defer to the to the group.

Okay.

Okay.

Yeah, we can talk more later.

And we'll find out if if that's an answer that we're able to provide or not.

Absolutely.

All right.

And so can you um can you do that as soon as possible?

Because um, absolutely if you're gonna apply for it, we need to amend it ladder.

Absolutely.

Yeah, yeah.

No, it will get right on it.

Gotcha.

Anything else?

Councillor Monkell.

Thank you, President Penny.

Well, I have 84 through 88.

Um, 84 we held for one meeting, but that one is gonna be okay to go.

Um, 85.

Uh hi, counsel.

Uh Kevin Race from Division of Business Development.

Sure.

And Deputy Commissioner Hill is just passing out a map.

Um 85 is related to the New York State Brownfield Opportunity Area or BOA program.

Um, this is administered by New York State Department of State.

Um, we're asking for the permission to apply for a 300,000 dollar planning grant to um study and establish and create a new BOA plan for a new BOA, um, which we're calling the West Side Getys BOA.

Um, this would like encompass most of the Getys corridor, um, most of the Park Ave neighborhood, including the old Auto Row, West Genesee Street, um, East West Fayette Street, and Erie Boulevard West.

Um, there's a 10% match which we will provide via in-kind staff hours.

Um, are there ideas for how you're going to develop this, or is this just the preliminary what can we can't we do?

Yeah, so this is like the planning stage of the program.

Um, so this is where we go out, we do community engagement, we get a steering committee established with representatives from across the area.

Um, and really it's you know about creating priorities for redevelopment that are community rooted, um, and then also identifying strategic sites, long long-term, a bacon or abandoned contaminated properties, things like that that we really want to see redeveloped.

Um, it is kind of just like a long-term planning program.

Um, after we get these areas designated, which might take two years.

Um, then we can apply for certain pre-development funds through the program, but those cover any type of study we would want to do or property-specific things like engineering surveys, architectural drawings.

Um, if we did have a vacant property in mind that we wanted to um try and redevelop, it's not gonna provide the bulk of the funding to get properties redeveloped, but um, it sets the stage to further study those.

Yeah, can you make sure I'm kept in the loop on all this?

Yeah, I'll throw you on the steering committee if we get awarded.

Anybody else?

86.

We have um, I'm sorry, um, we have three boas.

So, yeah, so we we have one existing BOA, which was established like over 10 years ago.

That's on the Hiawatha Boulevard, Lodi Av or Lodi Street.

Um, that one we're looking to do probably next year.

We're trying to get more collaborations because we can actually apply for those pre-development fundings because that one's established.

Um, then we have two ongoing uh BOAs that we're in the planning stages for the East Adams South Salina BOA and the Erie Boulevard East BOA.

Both of those are on track.

Um we have, you know, we've been doing that work for the better part of 10 months.

Um so we have certain sections of the report that are under draft.

We'll have another public meeting for each of those towards the fall.

Um those final reports will be drafted this later this year, and then we'll submit those to designation by the end of the year so that next year we can identify pre-development asks for those areas, whether they're property specific or we want to do area-wide studies or something.

Okay.

Thank you, Kevin.

And Brianka, congratulations on your new appointment.

Hello again, Counselor's Evan Loving Budget Director Number 86 is uh looking to an application agreement with NYSERTA that would fund 75% of an on-site energy manager for two years.

Um this is something we're looking into as you may remember during the budget process, our utility costs are uh increasing exponentially, and so we're looking to make sure that we can do what we can to control those, and we also make sure we're aligning our facilities operations with our climate action plan.

This is the same company that you guys were talking about that sent out the city sent collaboration with earlier this year, right?

No.

Nicer, nicer is the um energy research and development authority.

Yeah, I know what nice third, but you said is to also no that's just that's just for there's nobody selected.

This would be a personal higher and nicer to recover 75% salary and benefits.

Gotcha.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Good afternoon, Councillor Zowen Kerney, Deputy Commissioner for Planning and Sustainability.

Number 87 is a I believe the final uh grant authorization request.

Well, no, not the final one.

Um for this year's consolidated funding application to New York State.

It's through the New York State Department of State local waterfront revitalization program.

This is one that the city has been successful with for the past few years.

This is a follow-up grant um focused on the peers in the inner harbor.

We have initial funding to evaluate survey uh structural analysis of those peers, which we haven't started yet, but we'll be putting that work out to bid shortly.

Uh this is follow-up dollars, essentially phase two dollars to design something.

Um and not to exceed 450,000, probably won't be that full amount, but wanted to put that number in there so we can at least go up to there, make sure we have enough uh to fund a redesign of those peers.

Happy to answer any questions.

Questions?

Thanks, Alan.

And a quick plug, we're gonna be at um Hazard Branch Library tomorrow night, 5 30 for the comprehensive plan third of four public meetings.

So if you or uh folks you're talking to or interested are over in that area, please come out and see us uh hazard on uh West Genesee 5 30 Thursday night.

Open house style, so just drop in 5 30 to 6 30.

Thank you.

Thank you.

88 America Trier, downtown committee of Syracuse.

Um, this last item is related to the New York State consolidated funding application.

We would like to uh apply for building renovation and facade improvement funds for the Krauss Marshall Business Improvement District area, and as part of the application submittal, which is due July 31st, it requires a municipal resolution and support.

Uh there are no matching funds requested from the city.

All matching funds would be provided by property owners.

And with this item, there is one item to clarify.

Uh, the the resolution is not in support of the downtown committee, it would be in support of the Krauss Marshall Business Improvement District as the organization submitting the grant application.

And Merrica, these the targeted blocks are all tax paying for profit businesses in the commercial district.

Uh they are um some properties may be uh not for profit uh but not for profits still do pay um a level of the assessment in the area, and they are eligible for funding uh through this New York State grant program.

Thank you.

Anyone else?

Okay, thanks, Merrica.

All right, motion to adjourn.

So moved.

Second voting favor.