3:09Everything good with you?
3:10Yes, I'm sorry with me.
3:12Yeah, everything good.
3:19Oh, it is one o'clock.
3:23We're going to start our regular meeting.
3:26Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.
3:32I Pledge Allegiance of the United States of America.
3:48And now we invite faster view turn to bless our meeting.
4:13Give us sound thinking and sound minds as we go about the work of this municipality.
4:20That their work would be pleasing in thy sight, and that the people of this community would be blessed by their work.
5:12Council Way and Council Jones Rousser.
5:16Council Joan Rousser.
5:24And so let's move to approve the minutes.
5:42We had uh two public meetings on July 6th, I believe.
5:46Let me let me get the numbers.
5:49Um counselor Calwood, do you want to take that?
5:54Um, you just basically say that they are there.
5:57Um so the the public meetings uh hearings occurred uh in July 6, 5 30 p.m.
6:04And relative to authorized the naming of the Homer Wheaton Park concession stand to the Alphonse Gunn concession stand pursuant to the revised general ordinance of the city of Syracuse, chapter 17, Article 5, and then authorized the naming of the McChesney Community Center Basketball Court to the Dennis Pardinet Ball Court, pursuant to the revised general ordinance of the City of Syracuse chapter 17, Article 5.
6:34And with that said, any petitions?
6:38Any committee reports president uh parks and parks Hannah Aaron Reich Parks Committee Chair?
6:49We had a meeting on Wednesday, uh 7 126 at 9 a.m.
6:53Uh to review the park spawns that are before the the council today.
6:58Any other committee reports?
7:06And item number 10 is being withdrawn, correct?
7:11No resolution, no resolution.
7:14All right, moving on.
7:19Thank you, Madam President.
7:20Blessings to all today.
7:22I have item 11 and 12, and I'd like to introduce them.
7:30I didn't see that right.
7:31I'd like to introduce them and urge their adoption.
7:40Please call the role.
7:51Please call the roll.
7:56Counselor, thank you.
8:00Thank you, Madam President.
8:01I have item 13 to 42.
8:09We'll we'll vote on it, and then we will hold item 41 and 42.
8:17Okay, you may notice that um item 40 has been changed to application.
8:21And and item 40, uh, the agreement has been removed, leaving the application portion of it.
8:31Yes, and Deputy Clark just passed.
8:34So 39 was okay, right?
8:37I will hold 41 and 42.
8:40So 40 agreement is removed, and application is going through.
8:45And then we will hold item 41, which is the bond side of the portion, and then hold 42 as well.
8:56The rest of them are ready.
8:57I would like to introduce them and earn the adoption.
9:07So I really want to thank uh my fellow counselors, especially the uh public works and infrastructure committee that I put work in, and that is Jimmy Monto, Rashida Cardwell, Helen Hudson, uh my forgetting, and myself, myself.
9:28So four of us in um in addition to all the counselors as well that have added um uh comments and suggestions to really get this legislation to this point.
9:42I also want to thank our council staff, Nathan and Nada will pull it put in tons of work uh to this point.
9:50It has been a couple of months that have uh taken a lot of time.
10:00So second thank would go to the uh uh corporation council uh for the work with us uh as well as Eric and us as well as Department of Public Works, uh Crew under uh Jimmy uh yeah um under uh commissioner Robinson and and Ford as well as engineering.
10:19Um there's a lot of people that have been involved in this, and you know, is it's not perfect at all.
10:25By no means it is it perfect, but I think it got us to a point where finally we are able to stand uh as a city and be able to be a little bit efficient.
10:37This version is a little f efficient than the previous version.
10:41So uh I'm happy to introduce it and urge for everyone adoption to to get it through.
10:50Um I have as well want to echo what Councillor Majuk has said, um, because I know there was a lot of work put into this.
11:00I still have my skepticism on some of the things, because I'm still stuck on the square footage.
11:07I'm still stuck on the fact that the monitoring and how we're gonna be able to do it with the staff that we have.
11:16So this one is a tough one, but I do appreciate all the work that was put in on this.
11:29Um, I would like to echo the sentiments of Councillors Hudson and my joke over there with you know extending gratitude to everyone who worked on this project.
11:36Um in the proposed legislation, there's a couple of fundamental concepts for areas of higher density.
11:43If you close the right of way, you'll pay more for closures that extend or for the pardon me, for closures that extend for you know a longer duration for a longer period of time, you pay more.
11:56But similar to what counselor Hudson mentioned, if you close a greater portion of the right-of-way, your fee does not increase under the proposed legislation.
12:05Square footage is one of the underlying aspects of the 2025 ordinance that we passed.
12:10It follows the basic premise.
12:12If you close more of a road, you pay more.
12:16This may have led to an overly complicated calculation, but the proposed changes swing the pendulum too far in the other direction.
12:24We are being asked to turn an area-based fee structure into an administrative fee structure.
12:30We are going from overly complicated to overly simplified.
12:33I think that this legislation builds on a lot of the council's ideas and requests, and for that I am grateful.
12:40And I think that it comes very close to being a piece of legislation I could support.
12:44However, I still have my reservations.
12:51I just want to echo what Corey said.
12:53I I appreciate the work that's gone into this.
12:55I know it's taken a lot of time and effort, and um, I still have my reservations.
13:08Please call the roll.
13:14Anybody from law department?
13:17Well, right in front of you.
13:19Oh, Megan is right here.
13:20So Megan, with this um item number 13, and I know we have I know Eric is here too as well.
13:27And I do I know there's um some movement that needs to go on if it is not passed today, or if we don't move forward, if it's held, where does that put us?
13:37Meg, you want to go to the mic if you want to speak, please?
13:56Good afternoon, counselors.
13:57Um, Megan Ryan, Senior Corporation Council.
14:00So if this legislation doesn't move forward today, um we would operate under the existing legislation that was last amended, I believe was in 2025.
14:13Or it would it would so you're saying business will go as normal and we would operate under what we had, it wouldn't stop business.
14:23Oh, yes, that's correct.
14:27There is a there is a uh item that's on the waiver agenda, um, three month extension.
14:32Of course, it won't stop now.
14:44Please call the roll.
14:51Councilor Michelle, yes, Councilor Aaron Right.
15:00And the um three month extension of course it won't stop thank you please call the roll counselor codwell yes councilor machel yes counselor opposed counselor Hudson no councillor Nave Yes Councillor Moore no Councilor Williams no Councilor Jones Rouser Councilor Mato Yes the item passes with a five to four vote okay moving on uh item number fourteen any objections any discussion please call the roll all in favor aye opposed unanimous item number 15 any objections any discussion please call the roll all in favor aye opposed unanimous item number 16 any objections any discussion please call the roll all in favor aye opposed is unanimous item number 17 any objections any discussions please call the roll all in favor aye opposed is unanimous item number 18 any objections discussion please call the roll all in favor aye opposed unanimous item number 19 any objections discussion please call the roll all in favor aye opposed unanimous i number 20 any objections discussion please call the roll all in favor aye opposed unanimous item number 22 any objections oh 21 any objections any discussion please call the roll all in favor aye opposed unanimous item number 22 any objections discussion please call the roll all in favor aye opposed item number 23 any objections discussion please call the roll all in favor aye opposed unanimous item 24 any objections discussion please call the roll all in favor aye opposed unanimous item 25 any objections discussion please call the roll all in favor aye opposed unanimous item number 26 any objections discussion please call the roll all in favor aye opposed unanimous item number 27 any objections discussion please call the roll all in favor aye opposed item number 28 any objections discussion please call the roll all in favor aye opposed unanimous item 29 any objections discussion please call the roll all in favor aye opposed unanimous item number 30 any objections discussion please call the roll all in favor aye opposed item 31 any objections discussion please call the roll all in favor aye opposed unanimous item 32 any objections discussion please call the roll all in favor aye opposed unanimous item 33 any objections discussion please call the roll all in favor aye opposed unanimous item 34 any objection discussion please call the roll all in favor aye opposed unanimous item 35 any objections discussion please call the roll all in favor aye opposed unanimous item 36 any objections discussion please call the roll all in favor aye opposed is unanimous item 37 any objections discussion please call the roll all in favor aye opposed is unanimous item 38 any objections discussion please call the roll all in favor aye opposed unanimous i have item 39 any objections discussion please call the roll all in favor aye opposed unanimous item 40 any objections discussion please call the roll all in favor aye opposed unanimous item 41 will be held item 42 will be held all right can we go back to 40 uh yes did you need to state that it was changed by so he did already but uh the uh item number 40 is put put in front of the council separating the application from the agreement council president said it's a new piece of legislation in front of each one of you just the application thank you for checking in counselor eran red thank you madam president i have items 43 through 61 i would like to introduce them and urge their adoption thank you number 43 any discussion any objections discussion please call the roll all in favor aye opposed unanimous 44 any objection
20:03Just the application.
20:04Thank you for checking in.
20:09Thank you, Madam President.
20:10I have items 43 through 61.
20:13I would like to introduce them and urge their adoption.
20:18Any discussion, any objections?
20:21Discussion, please call the roll.
20:31Discussion, please call the roll.
20:35Opposed is unanimous.
20:41Please call the roll.
20:49Please call the roll.
20:59Please call the roll.
21:21Counselor Jones Rouser.
21:23I'm sorry, I was going to object to this, but you didn't get that that part didn't get to the floor yet.
21:31You're going to what?
21:36If you object, everything is that was the beginning of it.
21:39If we we can um if that's what's the this if that's what you're gonna do, you can say it now.
21:50And it stands for 47 and 48.
21:53Um, as the only counselor who's been on the board of historic preservation and one who pushes for preservation when it makes sense.
22:01I have to say there comes a time when preservation and feasibility no longer go hand in hand.
22:06As all good things must come to an end, the Westminster staircase has reached this point, and it would be best to ask DASNI to reallocate the 600K to encapsulate and or memorize or memorialize these steps.
22:22Directing the proposed three point the three three million repair funds to youth programming creates a better impact.
22:30These funds can be built, can build new playgrounds, fund sports leagues, support some um summer camps, nature classes, and after school programming while creating safe spaces for youth and families.
22:44This also opens the doors to youth young adult job creation.
22:49Nearly 20 years ago, Kirk Park's pedestrian bridge was closed down, and it was deemed um unsafe.
23:00A few years later, once the creek walk was um created and through that space in lower onedaga, the same bridge was reopened with no um repairs.
23:14To me, it seems like one neighborhood should not take precedence over another neighborhood.
23:20Um further directing these funds to the possibility of the development of housing will help tackle the city's housing shortage.
23:32Three million allows the development of 10 to 12 three-bedroom houses to be built, which supports families rather than a single walkway to utilize by a very niche group of individuals.
23:46The shift turns infrastructure money into stable long-term shelter for local residents with growing families.
23:56So for me, there's multiple options where this money can be utilized that would make a greater impact throughout Syracuse and its entire community versus a specific niche group of individuals for a set of steps that lead to nowhere other than a parking lot.
24:18Point of order, madam chair.
24:21I believe that we have already moved past objection, past discussion, and we were in a middle of a roll call vote.
24:27Am I recognized to speak?
24:29So the point of order is if my fellow counselor would like to oppose the motion, they are welcome to do so in the roll call vote, correct?
24:39If they are actually objecting, I don't believe that I believe we have passed that point.
24:44We haven't oh we haven't gotten through the votes, and that's why um if she wanted to object, she could she can object.
24:52So the point of order that I'm asking for clarification on is we had already passed the objection.
24:58She would have to amend her motion.
25:00We hadn't had the objection.
25:01We hadn't uh completed the vote, and that's if we would have completed the vote, if the voting was done, we would go back.
25:09I would like you have to make a motion, you know.
25:11But being that we hadn't completed the vote, it's still out there on the table.
25:16So to object, yeah, to object.
25:18Now what's gonna happen is that this is gonna stay on the agenda.
25:22Yeah, it's gonna stay on the agenda, it's gonna be on the next agenda, and you guys uh whether you guys are gonna have more discussion on it or whatever.
25:30It's it's not moving off the agenda.
25:32It wasn't then madam um president.
25:35I would like to make a motion to hold all of the items on the agenda today for my committee, and we will have another committee meeting to discuss passage of the bonds.
25:44You sure you want to do that, counselor?
25:46Because the other ones are are I mean, like it's only is only can get objected one time, you know.
25:52So it gotta come back to the next meeting, come back to the next meeting, and then can't get objective.
25:57You can actually move forward or can't get objected.
26:01She can put a motion to the floor for her for what she wants, and then we can vote on it.
26:07I'm sorry, I wasn't.
26:08Why would we hold everything for one thing?
26:10If this is objective, this is part of what she can put a motion to the floor for what she wants, and we can vote on that.
26:17She she can do that.
26:19Um I'm just saying that um, you know, being that that's the only item, it's only gonna be one word.
26:25Yeah, to the councillor's points, however, these items were crafted specifically to meet the needs across the city.
26:33This is not for a particular uh niche demographic, it's not for a particular part or segment of the city.
26:41These items were meant to go together, and they were meant to demonstrate our commitment across the city to all of our parks and all of our recreation opportunities.
26:50So we've already had one committee meeting on it.
26:54I regret that we were not able to answer the councillor's concerns at that time.
26:58I'd like to have another committee meeting where we might be able to do so.
27:01Only um for one item.
27:03Well, uh, I don't want to put in a motion to keep moving.
27:06I think that you should keep all the the other the others moving.
27:10I put in a motion and keep moving the recidives.
27:13Why hold up everything else?
27:14Okay, it's a motion on the floor.
27:16I mean, I can we can entertain their motion unless uh council.
27:25All right, we keep forward.
27:27All right, so I'm sorry, did we vote on my motion to hold the items?
27:31Point of order again.
27:32We we just motioned to not hold them.
27:35But we didn't vote on my motion, which I had to do.
27:37You didn't put it to the floor.
27:39Are you making a motion?
27:42Are you gonna again?
27:43I just want to keep a clean meeting here.
27:44No, I don't think I had a second, so it's very possible that my motion did not advance.
27:49Okay, so did we ask for a second?
27:51I don't I didn't really hear a motion on the motion.
27:54You didn't put it to the floor.
27:56Are you making a motion?
27:57I mean, like we can just make the motion, let's keep it moving.
28:01We all know the process.
28:02You want to make a motion?
28:03I would like to make a motion to hold the items, and I would ask for a second if people feel that they have other questions on the items.
28:10Which item on any of the items, yeah.
28:13All of them to hold all that.
28:17There is a motion on the floor.
28:18I need all in favor.
28:20But excuse me, clerk to hold what numbers she has to say the numbers.
28:26To hold items 47 through 61.
28:29Okay, so there's a motion on the floor to hold item 47 to 61.
28:40Okay, let's see here.
28:44Okay, so counselor Codwell.
28:49Counselor Aaron Wright.
28:55Counselor Williams, yes.
28:58Counselor Jones Rouser.
29:05So we had all continued.
29:07So we already voted on no motion now.
29:10So items just to be clear.
29:12Items 47 or 48, we'll be held for the next agenda.
29:19There's an objection.
29:23So there was an objection to 47, correct?
29:25Yeah, there's objection to other 47 or 48.
29:28I would just call 48.
29:31Yes, we haven't got we haven't gotten to 48 yet.
29:33So I would finish 47 and then move to 40.
29:43So when a bond is involved, that's the best route.
29:48We're going to hold 48.
29:51So we objected to 48.
29:52So we object to 47 and we're holding the 48.
30:05Please call the roll.
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31:03Please call the roll.
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31:47Please call the roll.
31:56I need to go back to item 50, please.
32:01Item 50 was voted on.
32:02So in order to go back to item 50, we need a motion.
32:08She wants to introduce it.
32:11What did you say, Counselor?
32:13You want me to put the motion?
32:14Yeah, you gotta make a motion to go back.
32:15It was already voted on.
32:16I put a motion on the floor to revisit item number 50.
32:25Opposed to visit it.
32:27So we're going back to it.
32:28So we we're back at 50.
32:33Um, I just want to put on record that I will no vote for item 50.
32:38Um, and because when we first originally discussed this, um, there was there's some confusion with who was supposed to be paying for it, but also the fact that this particular section of um of parking would be gated.
32:59Um, and not allow for um local residents to be able to park after removing the pump track and relocating it.
33:13The agreement originally was discussed um with the residents who started that um and who utilize it, and I think there was some confusion around this this new gated area, the agreement with the parking lot and the plaza right on that is does not have is not gated, so it's confusing as to why this area needs to be gated.
33:40So I'm a no for that one.
33:42Okay, all in favor, opposed, no, no, all right, thanks.
33:49The item passes with an eight to one okay councillor Hudson.
33:57I have item 62 through 65.
34:00I would like to introduce them and urge the adoption.
34:08Discussion, please call the roll.
34:11All in favor, aye, opposed, unanimous.
34:14Item 63, any objections?
34:17Discussion, please call the roll.
34:20All in favor, aye, opposed, unanimous.
34:26Discussion, please call the roll.
34:36Discussion, please call the roll.
34:43Okay, counselor Moore.
34:45Madam President, I have items 66 through 69.
34:49I would like to introduce and urge their adoption.
34:56Discussion, please call the roll.
35:06Please call the roll.
35:17Please call the roll.
35:26Please call the roll.
35:31Councillor Williams.
35:32Thank you, Madam President.
35:33I have item 70 through 81 today.
35:35I would like to introduce and urge their adoption.
35:38Um, and prior to the vote, I would like to point out to the council that the deputy clerk provided updated legislation for item number 70.
35:45Um the short title should now read total costs not to exceed 75 dollars.
35:53Councilor Williams, do we have it in there?
35:55Um, I'm not at that part, but do we have it in here for how long this is going to be set for?
36:01Uh it's a one-year term.
36:19So as we know that, you know, I'm not voting no against it, but I just have to make a statement that um it really dear to me about all the taxes and the fees and the fines that we're giving our community and uh and the lives of what's going on in our city.
36:35So no, I'm not gonna vote no against it.
36:37Um it is a 25 dollar increase, but we have increased multiple things throughout this um time that I've been on the council, taxes, water, um, red light, school bus, sidewalk, taxes, tax.
36:50We keep increasing more and more bills to our taxpayers.
36:54Um, so that is a concern of mine um when people are living paid check to paycheck.
36:58So I just want to say that, but I'm not gonna vote no against.
37:01I just want to make sure that's clarified that you know we are continuing to hammer on our community, you know, when they are already suffering.
37:12I would like the discussion point shouldn't Syracuse has a revel a revenue issue, it's an incredible revenue issue, and it has nothing to do with boot fines, it has to do with tax base.
37:28We have a preponderance of city services that need to be funded from somewhere, and again, not from boot fees.
37:35What we're talking about here today is just about crying trying to create a financial model with the boot fees where we can enforce parking violations without losing more than a hundred dollars per enforcement activity.
37:49So we do have a revenue issue, it cannot come from the citizens who are currently and residents who are currently paying taxes, it has to come from our nonprofit partners, it has to come from creativity, it has to come from innovation, but we also have a financial duty to make sure that we are using city services and enforcing city laws appropriately.
38:12So I am voting for this.
38:20Any additional discussion, please call the role.
38:24All in favor, aye, opposed, unanimous.
38:29Any discussion objections?
38:31Discussion, please call the role.
38:34All in favor, aye, opposed, unanimous.
38:43I have a discussion point.
38:44Sorry, I just wanted to be clear.
38:47So sorry, yes, on 72.
38:49Um, the items had to be updated from the study session.
38:52Were those updated, madam clerk?
38:54Um in terms of the time record keeping that have been corrected.
39:00Um, yes, as far as um from what you have in your packet, that that's what's that's what's correct.
39:06Okay, was it updated from last week?
39:08From last week, only counselor machine anything else, everything else was updated as is.
39:14Thank you very much.
39:17Any additional discussion, please call the roll.
39:20All in favor, aye, oppose unanimous.
39:24Item 73, any objections, discussion, please call the roll.
39:31All in favor, aye, opposed, unanimous.
39:38Discussion, please call the roll.
39:41All in favor, aye, opposed, unanimous.
39:48Discussion, please call the roll.
39:57Discussion, yes, madam president.
40:00Have a discussion on this item.
40:04I've been a longtime member of the Honored Dog Historical Association for many, many years.
40:11And I've always supported their efforts to preserve and protect the history of our city, our historical documents, all the artifacts.
40:26But I also believe in supporting and preserving our monuments.
40:32And sometimes, in my opinion, Gilway Chake can get politically involved.
40:39And the objective has to be to preserve all of our monumentations, all of our monuments.
40:47And for those who those who were uh created in memory of those who gave so much to our country too much our city, all of our immigrants, all of our immigrants participated in the building of the city, and throughout the city, you do see monuments that were supported not from tax dollars, but the dollars of those who earn fuel dollars at that time.
41:18So I would urge and ask the Honored Dog Historical Association to continue to defending and protecting of the all of our historical monuments.
41:30They are uh a part of our history, and I respect those who might have a disagree with uh maybe some of the monuments, but they are part of our history, and as a proud Italian American second generation, and I know for those who are proud Irish Americans, German Americans, Polish Americans, and for those of who are coming to our country now is the new Americans it includes them because someday some of our new Americans from Vietnam, parts of Africa, Middle East won't want to honor someone who meant so much to them, and that too someday will be part of their heritage, their history, and part of our great city's heritage and history.
42:21Any additional discussion?
42:23Please call the roll.
42:24All in favor, aye opposed, unanimous.
42:28Item 77, any objections?
42:32Discussion, please call the roll.
42:35All in favor, aye, opposed, unanimous.
42:42Discussion, please call the roll.
42:45All in favor, aye, opposed, unanimous.
42:51Discussion, please call the roll.
42:54All in favor, aye, opposed, unanimous.
43:03Please call the roll.
43:12Please call the roll.
43:16Councillor Jones Rousser.
43:20Thank you, Madam President.
43:21I have item 82 and 83.
43:24Um, both items are currently ready.
43:28We got the updated um information with the commercial only um or commercial and uh larger items.
43:38So I introduce and urge the adoption of these two items.
43:43Item 82, any objections?
43:47Discussion, please call the roll.
43:51All in favor, aye opposed, unanimous.
43:54Item 83, any objections?
43:57Discussion, please call the roll.
44:05Do we have an uh discussion?
44:08No, I'm in opposition.
44:10All right, the item passes with an eight to one vote.
44:13Council and right voted no.
44:19Thank you, President Paniaca.
44:20I have items 84 through 88.
44:22I will introduce them and urge their adoption.
44:32Um my biggest issue with, and I'm love that.
44:38No, nothing against our convenience stores, because our convenience stores in our city of Syracuse has done.
44:43We're a lot of great convenience store owners in our community, and they do a lot for our community to get back, but then there is some that are not.
44:51And any time we have illegal things going on at stores, and it's close to a school where children are and where they are selling illegal things or drug or tobacco tobacco or alcohol near the school is something that I will always object.
45:12I'm hoping that our state assembly men and our senators are listening to this.
45:16That we need to change the law of how stores are so close to our schools where our children have accessibility to get tobacco and alcohol.
45:28Any other discussion?
45:31Please call the roll.
45:35You can have to call it Councillor Cowell.
45:53Councillor Williams.
45:55Councillor Jones Browser.
46:03The item fells with uh with a four to five vote.
46:20Please call the roll.
46:30Please call the roll.
46:40Please call the roll.
46:50Please call the roll.
46:55And counselor Michelle.
46:58Thank you, Madam President.
47:01Uh, I would like to waive the rules first.
47:04Madam Clark, waive the rules.
47:10We'd like to introduce item 89.
47:13And there is adoption.
47:18Discussion, please call the roll.
47:24Please conclude our meeting.
47:30This is most meeting.