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Syracuse City Council Meeting on Salt and Fuel Agreements – October 13, 2026

Public Meetings — Tuesday, October 13, 2026
BodySyracuse, New York
SessionPublic Meetings
DateTuesday, October 13, 2026
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Unassigned speaker

6:47

There's two

Speaker 1

6:48

issues here the salt

Speaker 2

6:49

and the fuel, right?

6:51

Yes.

6:52

And then um, so if you can just walk me through or at least somebody watching, walk us through um what this is about, you know, in terms

Unassigned speaker

7:04

of

Speaker 2

7:06

getting the salt, let's let's do the salt first.

7:09

Getting the salt, and you got all these organizations that are coming to you to get salt from

Unassigned speaker

7:14

you.

Speaker 3

7:15

Yeah, so we have uh agreements with uh central um SUNY upstate and then uh Syracuse housing for our salt.

7:28

Um so those agreements uh they come and get salt from us throughout the winter winter months.

7:34

Um and then on a separate uh contract we have uh Onadaga County uh for fuel.

7:46

We also have Syracuse uh city school district uh for fuel.

Speaker 2

7:50

Yep.

Speaker 3

7:52

And we have uh Syracuse Housing for fuel.

Unassigned speaker

7:56

So

Speaker 3

7:56

those are the six things that we uh provide to some of our local entities.

Speaker 2

8:03

So and I guess I guess this is this contract has been on for a while.

Speaker 3

8:08

Yeah, since I've been here.

Speaker 2

8:10

So why are these organizations coming to us directly?

8:14

Is there is there a reason why they buy from us as opposed to go to the other vendors?

Speaker 3

8:20

Uh I couldn't really tell you that.

8:22

Uh it's just like I said, it's always been that way since I've been here.

8:26

Uh I'm not sure when the agreement starts started, but that's been the agreement since I've since I've took office.

Unassigned speaker

8:34

Okay, so I I I the other piece that I really want to know is the when we do this, you know, how much manpower goes into it in term of the cost to us from the employee side.

Speaker 2

8:48

So

Speaker 3

8:48

fuel is not much, right?

8:50

They go up and pump their own fuel.

8:51

So uh I believe it's six cents a gallon for our administration fees for fuel.

Speaker 2

8:58

Okay.

Speaker 3

9:02

Yeah, and then five dollars for salt.

9:05

The salt is really not a big deal as well.

9:07

We have a salt dome operator who sits up there and provides us DPW with salt.

9:14

So once they once uh entity comes in and once all they'll load them up, they'll write out a ticket, see what you know, they'll get weighed.

9:23

Um we already pre-determined the uh width and uh depth of the truck that they bring, and uh we incorporate that into a cost, they fill out a form, we get it signed by our supervisor that's on hand, and then they go on their way.

Speaker 2

9:40

What about the revenue side?

9:43

What about what what we put in uh in term of what it cost the city versus what the city sell?

9:53

The vendors.

Unassigned speaker

9:54

Yeah, so some of the numbers that I did get from Jenna who couldn't be here, uh she's ill today.

Speaker 3

10:02

Um I know we spent last year on fuel about 1.2 for unleaded 1.2 million and about 630,000 for diesel.

10:14

So about 1.8 last year.

10:17

Not excuse me, not last year, uh 2024.

10:21

And then last year, 2025, we spent 1.5 on unleaded 997,000 on diesel, so about 2.5 million on total fuel

Speaker 2

10:33

last year.

10:36

Right.

10:37

Okay, so

Speaker 3

10:40

salt

Speaker 2

10:40

uh so that's that's that's what we spend to get.

10:44

Yes, right.

10:45

Yes,

Speaker 3

10:45

yes.

Speaker 2

10:46

So as this so if if this three vendors are coming in and they are pumping as well, yeah, taking.

Speaker 3

10:54

Yeah,

Speaker 2

10:54

how much are we generating from what they are buying?

Speaker 3

10:59

Not much.

11:00

Uh not much.

11:01

No, not much.

11:02

Uh I believe the county uh total revenue was about 2400.

Speaker 2

11:06

2400?

Speaker 3

11:08

Yeah, I believe.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Fuel Management█████████████████████████████████████████████46%
Public Transportation████████████████████████████████33%
Active Transportation█████████████13%
Transportation Safety████4%
Workforce Development████4%
Summary of Proceedings

Syracuse City Council Meeting on Salt and Fuel Agreements – October 13, 2026

The Syracuse City Council held a meeting on October 13, 2026, to discuss the city's intergovernmental agreements for the provision of road salt and fuel to other local entities. The discussion focused on the financial terms of these agreements, the administrative fees charged, and the broader implications for city operations, including snow removal, fleet management, and infrastructure planning. Councilors raised concerns about rising costs and whether the city was receiving adequate compensation or services in return.

Discussion Items

  • Salt and Fuel Agreements: A councilor initiated a detailed inquiry into the agreements that allow SUNY Upstate, Syracuse Housing Authority, Onondaga County, and Syracuse City School District to purchase salt and fuel from the city. The Commissioner of DPW explained that these arrangements have been in place for many years, with the city charging a $5 per ton administrative fee for salt and a $0.06 per gallon administrative fee for fuel. The councilor questioned the value of these agreements, noting that the city spent $2.5 million on fuel in 2025 (up from $1.8 million in 2024) while the total revenue from these outside agencies was only about $2,400 from the county. The councilor argued that the city should renegotiate to either increase fees or obtain in-kind services, such as plowing around city schools. The Budget Director, Ivan Loving, clarified that the city budgeted over $650,000 from outside agency fees this year, and that the administration is taking a fresh look at these agreements, including potential capital contributions from partners for shared infrastructure like fuel islands.

  • Snow Removal and Plowing Challenges: A councilor raised concerns about the feasibility of protected bike lanes given snow removal constraints. The Commissioner acknowledged that plowing to the curb is the standard but that obstacles like parked cars and double-parked vehicles create difficulties. The councilor suggested a state-of-emergency parking protocol with designated lots and shuttle buses, which the Commissioner supported as a personal opinion. The discussion also touched on the shortage of CDL drivers, with the Commissioner noting that driving a plow requires specialized skills and that the city runs 24-25 large plows on 12-hour shifts. The councilor asked about sharing a driver pool with other agencies, but the Commissioner explained that plowing is distinct from bus driving and that driver exhaustion is a concern.

  • Road Salt Alternatives and Future Planning: A councilor asked about alternatives to road salt, such as brine, and whether the city had viable options in case of shortages. The Commissioner stated that the city has a new vendor and is not currently at risk of a shortage. First Deputy Commissioner Ford Ock explained that brine is a pre-treatment requiring specific road conditions and that sand is not used in Syracuse due to catch basin clogging. The Commissioner noted that switching to brine would require new equipment. The councilor also inquired about the city's climate sustainability plan and fleet electrification, but the Commissioner confirmed that heavy-use vehicles are unlikely to be replaced by electric alternatives.

Key Outcomes

  • No formal votes were taken; the meeting was a discussion and inquiry session.
  • Council directed that the salt and fuel agreements be reviewed closely, with the goal of renegotiating terms to better reflect rising costs or to secure reciprocal services. The Budget Director confirmed that such conversations are already underway.
  • The council expressed interest in exploring a citywide parking protocol for snow emergencies to facilitate more efficient plowing, though no immediate action was taken.
  • The Commissioner agreed to provide a precise number of plow trucks in operation (estimated 24-25) at a later date.
  • The meeting concluded with no further items, and the council thanked the Commissioner for his testimony.

Meeting Transcript

There's two issues here the salt and the fuel, right? Yes. And then um, so if you can just walk me through or at least somebody watching, walk us through um what this is about, you know, in terms of getting the salt, let's let's do the salt first. Getting the salt, and you got all these organizations that are coming to you to get salt from you. Yeah, so we have uh agreements with uh central um SUNY upstate and then uh Syracuse housing for our salt. Um so those agreements uh they come and get salt from us throughout the winter winter months. Um and then on a separate uh contract we have uh Onadaga County uh for fuel. We also have Syracuse uh city school district uh for fuel. Yep. And we have uh Syracuse Housing for fuel. So those are the six things that we uh provide to some of our local entities. So and I guess I guess this is this contract has been on for a while. Yeah, since I've been here. So why are these organizations coming to us directly? Is there is there a reason why they buy from us as opposed to go to the other vendors? Uh I couldn't really tell you that. Uh it's just like I said, it's always been that way since I've been here. Uh I'm not sure when the agreement starts started, but that's been the agreement since I've since I've took office. Okay, so I I I the other piece that I really want to know is the when we do this, you know, how much manpower goes into it in term of the cost to us from the employee side. So fuel is not much, right? They go up and pump their own fuel. So uh I believe it's six cents a gallon for our administration fees for fuel. Okay. Yeah, and then five dollars for salt. The salt is really not a big deal as well. We have a salt dome operator who sits up there and provides us DPW with salt. So once they once uh entity comes in and once all they'll load them up, they'll write out a ticket, see what you know, they'll get weighed. Um we already pre-determined the uh width and uh depth of the truck that they bring, and uh we incorporate that into a cost, they fill out a form, we get it signed by our supervisor that's on hand, and then they go on their way. What about the revenue side? What about what what we put in uh in term of what it cost the city versus what the city sell? The vendors. Yeah, so some of the numbers that I did get from Jenna who couldn't be here, uh she's ill today. Um I know we spent last year on fuel about 1.2 for unleaded 1.2 million and about 630,000 for diesel. So about 1.8 last year. Not excuse me, not last year, uh 2024. And then last year, 2025, we spent 1.5 on unleaded 997,000 on diesel, so about 2.5 million on total fuel last year. Right. Okay, so salt uh so that's that's that's what we spend to get. Yes, right. Yes,

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