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Vandalia City Council Special Meeting – November 12, 2025

City Council — Wednesday, November 12, 2025
BodyVandalia, Ohio
SessionCity Council
DateWednesday, November 12, 2025
StatusFILED
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0:02

All right, it's five o'clock.

0:04

Um and uh the special council meeting of Wednesday, November twelfth is now called to order.

0:10

Uh it's been recommended that council enter into executive session to discuss with the city attorney pending or eminent litigation and to consider the employment or compensation of a public employee.

0:20

Can I have a motion?

0:21

So move.

0:22

Second.

0:23

I have a motion by Councilman Lewis and a second by um councilwoman first.

0:29

Call the roll.

0:30

Councilmember Dugan.

0:33

Yes.

0:34

Councilmember Lewis?

0:35

Yes.

0:35

Councilmember Fallett?

0:36

Yes.

0:37

Councilmember Farce?

0:38

Yes.

0:38

Councilmember Avalodis Weaver?

0:40

Yes.

0:41

Vice Mayor Blixley?

0:42

Yes.

0:43

Yes, and the motion passes seven zero.

2:58

Don't need it.

3:00

All right.

3:01

Can I have a motion to end the executive session and reconvene the special council meeting?

3:06

So moved.

3:07

Second.

3:08

Motion by Councilman Lewis and a second by Councilwoman Farst.

3:12

Call the roll.

3:12

Councilmember Lewis?

3:14

Yes.

3:14

Councilmember Fallick?

3:15

Yes.

3:16

Councilmember Farst?

3:17

Yes.

3:17

Councilmember Avalodis Weaver?

3:19

Yes.

3:19

Councilmember Dugan?

3:20

Yes.

3:21

Vice Mayor Blakesley?

3:22

Yes.

3:22

Mayor Herbs.

3:23

Yes.

3:23

And the motion passes seven zero.

3:26

As advertised, this is a public meeting open to the public for viewing.

3:32

And any public comment may be limited by city council at its discretion.

3:37

The item we're here for tonight is to discuss the final development plan for the River Riverdale subdivision, Section One, the final PUD plan.

3:49

If anybody would like to start with the their discussion or any questions that they have.

5:00

So that brings us to the issue of whether the traffic study and the implementation of that traffic study is a condition precedent or concurrent with the development.

5:17

I think in speaking to Councilman Follick or whatever, I think the intent was to make it concurrent with the building of the development, not completely precedent.

5:37

I would find that that would be particularly onerous to a building to implement a or complete road improvements before approval of the plan.

5:53

So that seems to be common sense.

6:30

However, the particular improvement at Brown School and Little York was not on our even our tenure plan.

6:43

Its funding was not allocated for.

10:04

The taxpayers wouldn't have to bear the brunt of that additional expense.

10:10

And as a further suggestion that the any monies, there may be additional monies available to the city for that, that doesn't take the long-term planning like OPWC funds, but that there may be uh avenues to defray that cost either through ODOT state or county funding that might be available, and that the city could use those monies or uh in some way to defray the cost of the developer to make those improvements.

10:57

Um that's that's my position uh relative to to the to the traffic study.

11:07

Um the and we can or we could we could argue or it could be argued that implementation means completed prior to I think that that's uh not a productive argument either way, and that the uh implementation uh means in our case uh the most common sense reading of that would be to uh do it concurrently with with the beginning, start the process and complete it in an expeditious manner with the beginning of the development.

11:54

Um so that's that's the broad of it in terms of dollars and cents.

12:02

Um I agree with you in essence, but I still have difficulty the wording that was voted on says and implementation of changes prior to the approval of the final development plan.

12:22

How do common sense and intent um how do we come to a consensus of what we as a council think that means because implementation means an action.

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Summary of Proceedings

Vandalia City Council Special Meeting – November 12, 2025

The Vandalia City Council held a special meeting on November 12, 2025, at 5:00 PM in Council Chambers. The meeting began with an executive session to discuss pending litigation and employee matters, followed by a focused discussion on the final development plan for Riverdale Subdivision Section One (Final PUD Plan). Council members debated the meaning of a prior condition requiring implementation of traffic study changes before final plan approval and explored cost-sharing for intersection improvements at Brown School and Little York.

Executive Session

  • Council voted 7-0 to enter executive session to discuss with the City Attorney pending or imminent litigation and to consider the employment or compensation of a public employee.
  • After the session, council voted 7-0 to reconvene the public meeting.

Discussion Items

  • Riverdale Subdivision Final PUD Plan: The main item was a discussion of the final development plan for Section One of the Riverdale Subdivision. A prior council vote had included a condition that “implementation of changes [from the traffic study] prior to approval of the final development plan.” Council members offered differing interpretations:
    • Councilman Lewis argued the condition meant implementation should be concurrent with development, not entirely precedent, and expressed concern that the city should not bear the full cost of road improvements that were not on the city’s 10-year capital plan.
    • Councilwoman Farst questioned how to reconcile the words “implementation prior to” with the intent to move forward, noting that the condition as voted could be read as requiring completion before final plan approval.
    • Councilmember Avalodis Weaver stated his intent was that the city and developer would have a plan to address traffic study findings, not that all improvements be completed before development began.
    • Vice Mayor Blixley (Blakesley) agreed with Councilman Follig (Fallick) that the condition required a plan and concurrent implementation, not full completion.
    • Councilman Follig emphasized that the existing traffic deficiencies existed regardless of the proposed development, and that the developer’s proportional share (about 28%) of the cost was reasonable.
  • Traffic Study and Cost Sharing: Staff (Mr. Cron) explained that engineering consultant Choice One recommended widening left-turn lanes at the Brown School/Little York intersection. A schematic plan and cost estimate were prepared. The developer agreed to pay a proportionate share (~28% at full build-out, based on the development’s additional traffic). The only remaining dispute was the contingency percentage: staff recommended 20%, the developer offered 10%.
  • Councilman Lewis suggested a higher developer contribution due to the timing and budget impact, while Councilwoman Dugan expressed frustration that the city seemed to be giving too much to help a for-profit developer.
  • The developer stated that the conditions already imposed had increased costs, but he was willing to comply with the engineer’s recommendations and noted that the construction timeline (first homes likely in 2027) aligned well with potential grant funding (e.g., OPWC in 2027).

Key Outcomes

  • No final vote on the Riverdale final development plan occurred at this special meeting. It was clarified that the next regular council meeting (first reading) would involve a perfunctory vote to move the ordinance to a second reading, with final approval anticipated at the December 1, 2025 meeting.
  • Council reached broad consensus that the traffic study condition required a plan for concurrent implementation, not completion before development. The cost-sharing principle (developer contribution for new traffic impact) was accepted, though the contingency percentage (20% vs. 10%) remains unresolved and will be revisited.
  • Staff will proceed with engineering and pursue OPWC or other funding for the intersection improvements, targeting construction in 2027.
  • The meeting adjourned at approximately 6:00 PM.

Meeting Transcript

All right, it's five o'clock. Um and uh the special council meeting of Wednesday, November twelfth is now called to order. Uh it's been recommended that council enter into executive session to discuss with the city attorney pending or eminent litigation and to consider the employment or compensation of a public employee. Can I have a motion? So move. Second. I have a motion by Councilman Lewis and a second by um councilwoman first. Call the roll. Councilmember Dugan. Yes. Councilmember Lewis? Yes. Councilmember Fallett? Yes. Councilmember Farce? Yes. Councilmember Avalodis Weaver? Yes. Vice Mayor Blixley? Yes. Yes, and the motion passes seven zero. Don't need it. All right. Can I have a motion to end the executive session and reconvene the special council meeting? So moved. Second. Motion by Councilman Lewis and a second by Councilwoman Farst. Call the roll. Councilmember Lewis? Yes. Councilmember Fallick? Yes. Councilmember Farst? Yes. Councilmember Avalodis Weaver? Yes. Councilmember Dugan? Yes. Vice Mayor Blakesley? Yes. Mayor Herbs. Yes. And the motion passes seven zero. As advertised, this is a public meeting open to the public for viewing. And any public comment may be limited by city council at its discretion. The item we're here for tonight is to discuss the final development plan for the River Riverdale subdivision, Section One, the final PUD plan. If anybody would like to start with the their discussion or any questions that they have. So that brings us to the issue of whether the traffic study and the implementation of that traffic study is a condition precedent or concurrent with the development. I think in speaking to Councilman Follick or whatever, I think the intent was to make it concurrent with the building of the development, not completely precedent. I would find that that would be particularly onerous to a building to implement a or complete road improvements before approval of the plan.

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