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Vandalia City Council Study Session - March 2, 2026

City Council — Monday, March 2, 2026
BodyVandalia, Ohio
SessionCity Council
DateMonday, March 2, 2026
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0:02

All right, six o'clock.

0:04

So we'll go ahead and get started with uh this evening's study session.

0:06

Uh the first item we have is there anything on the council agenda tonight that we will be voting on that uh council wants to discuss any further?

0:14

None not a discussion, but a real quick follow-up on the historical society contribution.

0:20

Last year we had had a discussion about getting their revenue, like where their funding sources come in from I think we also had a question about whether our the other participating community contributes to their operating and I don't think we I know they provide us expenses, but I don't think we ever got the the revenue side, the revenue side of their funding.

0:44

All right, is anything else?

0:46

All right, move on to item B where we have a resolution for uh patrol vehicle upfit.

0:53

Mr.

0:53

Sucher, Chief Zucker.

0:59

Good evening.

1:01

Uh right now we've got uh three 2026 uh or 2026 Fleet Rotation Ford Police Interceptor utilities that are ready for uh upfit for this year, and uh since 2020 we've been unable to secure reliable bid submissions for multiple vendors uh for the purposes of vehicle upfitting.

1:17

Uh only two companies have submitted bids uh in the past, and which one of them is currently out of business.

1:22

Uh, due to the lack of reliable bids and the multiple factors related to upfitting of vehicles, uh, we decided to get quotes from two reputable companies that offer upfitting.

1:31

Uh, one is statewide emergency products in Van Wort, Ohio, and the other is KE Rose located in Hubert Heights.

1:37

We also reached out to Parr Public Safety Equipment, who has shops in the Columbus and Cincinnati area, and they stated they were unable to get our vehicles in for upfit for at least four months.

1:47

Uh, with that, we received a quote from statewide emergency products, and their quote was $19,908 per unit for a total of $59,724.

1:57

Uh, this quote also did not include several items necessary for our upfit and the anticipated cost for these non-quoted items uh such as um shipping, transfer of new radar units, um, and um the uh a divider plate for our storage compartments and also labor to decommission a surplus vehicle.

2:15

We anticipate to be in excess of 4200, which would bring the total project cost for them to $63,910.99s.

2:24

The quote from KA Rose uh we received was $21,845 and two cents per unit for a total of $65,535.06, and included all the requested items for a complete upfit and decommission of a surplus vehicle.

2:39

Uh their quote offers complete pricing and is not subject to change uh upon project completion.

2:45

Our 2026 upfit costs are a little bit more than previous years due to the incompatibility of previous use parts for our push bumpers and rear seats uh due to a vehicle redesign and the replacement of our rear storage solution, which is necessary to uh properly store additional patrol equipment.

3:00

Um KA Rose has been awarded our upfit contracts via council resolutions for over a decade.

3:05

Uh they complete a quality build using the same technician for every Vandalia cruiser.

3:10

This allows for consistency and easier troubleshooting, and if we have an issue, KROs will often accept the vehicle the same day and uh get it back to us.

3:17

So we have a significant uh reduction in downtime.

3:21

Um so I'm requesting the ability to waive the competitive bidding product process for our 2026 vehicle upfit and uh authorize K Ros of Huber Heights to perform the requested work for the quoted amount of sixty-five thousand five hundred and thirty five dollars and six cents.

3:34

Uh this is 17,464 and 94 cents below our budgeted amount of 83,000 dollars.

3:41

And I also asked that this uh project move before council tonight's regular meeting uh so upfitting can occur as soon as possible with our secured pricing.

3:51

All right, anyone else on council have any questions about that?

3:54

Seems pretty straightforward.

3:56

All right.

3:56

Thank you.

3:57

Thank you.

3:58

All right, we'll move on to items on the March 16th agenda.

4:01

Uh the first being the Fire Station 2 kitchen remodel.

4:03

Chief Follett.

4:08

Good evening.

4:09

Uh should have a memo regarding a fire station two renovation.

4:13

Fire station two built in 1979.

4:17

Uh, was built initially for volunteers in that year.

4:20

Uh it underwent a minor renovation, more of a facelift cosmetic renovation in 2007 when we started staffing that firehouse 24 hours a day.

4:31

Uh we put a smaller kitchen set in there.

4:34

Uh however, that kitchen is still a kitchenette type setup.

4:38

It's very small sink.

4:40

Uh the appliances are kind of all around the kitchen.

4:45

Uh so uh we've we've uh asked in our capital budget this year to do a minor remodel there.

4:53

Uh we we sent out requests for proposals in early 2026 and we received uh five packages back.

5:01

Uh the lowest and best bid we believe right now is creative countertops from East on East Winger Road in Inglewood, Ohio.

5:08

Uh they've done some work in the city of Inglewood for the City of Inglewood.

5:13

We've seen their work.

5:15

We believe they also did provide us with the uh quote ahead of time for the budget prep.

5:20

Uh so we had a little bit of an idea what we were looking at.

5:24

Um I also included uh some conceptual drawings and some uh drawings for you.

5:31

Uh we budgeted around $50,000 for this project.

5:35

Uh they came in about 45,657.

5:39

Uh we believe that uh we also may be doing some uh self-perform here on some demo and uh painting and some other things that may get that a little bit lower uh try to fit some other things in the project that need to happen while while we had the kitchen taken apart.

5:55

I I just have a couple of questions, and I'm sorry if this is explained better and I just don't understand it.

6:01

But are the from what I can see in the picture, the refrigerator looks almost like a household size.

6:08

Is it bigger?

6:10

No, we is the dishwasher more of like an industrial because it seems like if it's gonna be at a fire station, these things are gonna hold more food and be used more often, and they might need to be more of an industrial like digital dishwasher break often or those things wear out more often than a normal use.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
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Zoning And Land Use█████████████████17%
Procedural█████████████13%
Personnel Matters█████████████13%
Technology and Innovation███████████11%
Water And Wastewater Management██████████10%
Summary of Proceedings

Vandalia City Council Study Session - March 2, 2026

The Vandalia City Council held a study session on Monday, March 2, 2026, at 6:00 p.m. to review upcoming regular-meeting resolutions, items scheduled for the March 16 agenda, and discussion topics. No formal votes were taken during the study session; the regular council meeting was scheduled to begin at 7:00 p.m.

Council Agenda Follow-Up

  • Council discussed a follow-up on the Historical Society contribution. Last year's council requested information on the society's funding sources and whether the other participating community contributes to operations. Staff noted the society provides expense information, but the revenue side of its funding has not yet been supplied.

Patrol Vehicle Upfit - Bid Waiver Request

  • Police department staff requested a waiver of competitive bidding for 2026 upfitting of three 2026 Ford Police Interceptor utility vehicles. Since 2020, reliable multi-vendor bid submissions have been unavailable, and one of the two previous bidders is out of business.
  • Statewide Emergency Products (Van Wert, Ohio) quoted $19,908 per unit, totaling $59,724, but that quote excluded items such as shipping, radar unit transfer, a divider plate, and surplus-vehicle decommissioning, bringing its estimated total to $63,910.99.
  • K.E. Rose (Huber Heights, Ohio) quoted $21,845.02 per unit, totaling $65,535.06, with all requested items included and pricing not subject to change. Staff said K.E. Rose has performed Vandalia upfits for over a decade, uses the same technician for each cruiser, and offers reduced downtime when service is needed.
  • Staff requested authorization for K.E. Rose at $65,535.06, which is $17,464.94 below the $83,000 budgeted amount. Council asked no substantive questions.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Andrew Kane, applicant for the 1622 Middlefield Court variance, testified that his house's gutters drain directly to the storm sewer and that he would install troughs and a four-inch corrugated pipe routed to a catch basin on the southeastern part of the property, stating that runoff would not be an issue.

March 16 Agenda Items

Fire Station 2 Kitchen Remodel

  • Fire Chief Follett said Fire Station 2 was built in 1979 for volunteers, received a cosmetic renovation in 2007 when 24-hour staffing began, and still has a small kitchenette setup.
  • The city sent out RFPs in early 2026 and received five packages. Staff recommended Creative Countertops (Englewood, Ohio) as the lowest and best bid at about $45,657, below the approximately $50,000 capital budget; staff may self-perform demo and painting to reduce costs.
  • In response to council questions, Chief Follett said the appliances would be stainless steel commercial-grade residential style rather than restaurant grade. The department is pricing appliances through a company used by other fire departments.

Policies and Procedures Manual Revision

  • Staff reviewed minor clarifications and title changes, including fire captains now titled battalion chiefs, from the large 2025 PPM revision.
  • Two major changes were presented: part-time employees earn 4.6 hours of sick leave per 80 hours worked, with balances loaded twice a year; the second disbursement month is changed from December to January to fully capture the July-December earning period.
  • Travel policy changes allow meal-expense reimbursement at the per-diem rate after a training or conference requiring overnight travel when an employee uses a personal card. No travel advances will be issued, and same-day or non-overnight conferences are not reimbursable through purchasing or personal cards.

Asphalt Purchase

  • Public Works staff opened bids for annual asphalt purchases from two area suppliers, Barrett and Valley. Staff recommended awarding the contract to Valley Asphalt Corporation at $82 per ton for Type II base asphalt and $88 per ton for Type I surface asphalt.
  • The city budgeted $50,000 for asphalt in the permissive use tax fund and $20,000 for golf course cart paths for Parks and Recreation. The contract permits purchases up to the specified amount without requiring a minimum purchase.

Discussion Items

Pavement Treatment Under $50,000

  • Staff proposed applying Reclamite asphalt rejuvenator to selected streets, primarily streets from last year's water-main replacement projects, at a total cost of $46,365 by Pavement Technologies Inc.
  • Staff described Reclamite as preventive maintenance that helps protect newer asphalt, slows surface aging, reduces porosity, and is best suited to structurally sound pavements. The county engineer has incorporated this treatment in annual resurfacing projects.
  • In response to council questions, staff said Reclamite can help extend pavement life before the next resurfacing, and staff are considering including this treatment in future water-main projects. Staff did not have exact life-extension figures at the meeting; a council member referenced a possible 30 percent life extension.

Police Portable Radios Under $50,000

  • Police staff said the department is in the second year of a multi-year portable-radio replacement schedule. It plans to purchase eight Motorola APX N50 portable radios with accessories and programming through Motorola and PR Communications for $33,000.36; $35,000 was budgeted in 2026.
  • Staff said current radios are nearing the end of service life, are no longer supported by Motorola, are about 15 years old, and are experiencing parts-availability challenges.

Boards and Commissions Appointment

  • Staff announced that the March 16 council meeting will consider appointing Harry Herbst as an alternate member of the Vandalia Property Maintenance Board of Appeals. A memo from the Deputy Clerk of Council and the application were included in council packets.

Impervious Surface Variance - 1622 Middlefield Court

  • Zoning staff presented a variance request from Andrew Kane to exceed the maximum allowable impervious surface area in the RSF3 zoning district, where the limit is 45 percent of the lot.
  • The applicant proposes to demolish a 476-square-foot wood deck and add a 512-square-foot pool, concrete pavers around the pool, and concrete for a patio cover. Combined with the existing house, driveway, and sidewalk of 2,054 square feet, the total impervious area would be 4,506 square feet on a 9,398-square-foot lot, or 47.9 percent - 2.9 percent over the limit.
  • The Board of Zoning Appeals voted 3-0 on February 11 to recommend approval, and staff recommended approval.
  • Council members expressed two positions: swimming pools should not be counted as impervious surface because they accept water rather than create runoff, and minor overages such as 2.9 percent should be handled administratively for residential properties rather than requiring a multi-month BZA and council variance process.
  • Staff agreed to research possible zoning text amendments and bring options back for council discussion before referral to the Planning Commission.

Legislative Calendar

  • A council member requested that a proclamation for Professional Municipal Clerks Week (May 3-9) be added to the May 4 meeting agenda. The city clerk was asked to add it.

Key Outcomes

  • No formal votes were taken during the study session.
  • Staff were directed to research and return with zoning text-amendment options addressing pools as impervious surface area and administrative residential variances, with a preference for council discussion before Planning Commission referral.
  • The proclamation for Professional Municipal Clerks Week is to be added to the May 4 council meeting.
  • The appointment of Harry Herbst was scheduled for the March 16 council meeting, and the patrol-vehicle upfit bid waiver and award request was scheduled for the regular council meeting immediately following the study session.

Meeting Transcript

All right, six o'clock. So we'll go ahead and get started with uh this evening's study session. Uh the first item we have is there anything on the council agenda tonight that we will be voting on that uh council wants to discuss any further? None not a discussion, but a real quick follow-up on the historical society contribution. Last year we had had a discussion about getting their revenue, like where their funding sources come in from I think we also had a question about whether our the other participating community contributes to their operating and I don't think we I know they provide us expenses, but I don't think we ever got the the revenue side, the revenue side of their funding. All right, is anything else? All right, move on to item B where we have a resolution for uh patrol vehicle upfit. Mr. Sucher, Chief Zucker. Good evening. Uh right now we've got uh three 2026 uh or 2026 Fleet Rotation Ford Police Interceptor utilities that are ready for uh upfit for this year, and uh since 2020 we've been unable to secure reliable bid submissions for multiple vendors uh for the purposes of vehicle upfitting. Uh only two companies have submitted bids uh in the past, and which one of them is currently out of business. Uh, due to the lack of reliable bids and the multiple factors related to upfitting of vehicles, uh, we decided to get quotes from two reputable companies that offer upfitting. Uh, one is statewide emergency products in Van Wort, Ohio, and the other is KE Rose located in Hubert Heights. We also reached out to Parr Public Safety Equipment, who has shops in the Columbus and Cincinnati area, and they stated they were unable to get our vehicles in for upfit for at least four months. Uh, with that, we received a quote from statewide emergency products, and their quote was $19,908 per unit for a total of $59,724. Uh, this quote also did not include several items necessary for our upfit and the anticipated cost for these non-quoted items uh such as um shipping, transfer of new radar units, um, and um the uh a divider plate for our storage compartments and also labor to decommission a surplus vehicle. We anticipate to be in excess of 4200, which would bring the total project cost for them to $63,910.99s. The quote from KA Rose uh we received was $21,845 and two cents per unit for a total of $65,535.06, and included all the requested items for a complete upfit and decommission of a surplus vehicle. Uh their quote offers complete pricing and is not subject to change uh upon project completion. Our 2026 upfit costs are a little bit more than previous years due to the incompatibility of previous use parts for our push bumpers and rear seats uh due to a vehicle redesign and the replacement of our rear storage solution, which is necessary to uh properly store additional patrol equipment. Um KA Rose has been awarded our upfit contracts via council resolutions for over a decade. Uh they complete a quality build using the same technician for every Vandalia cruiser. This allows for consistency and easier troubleshooting, and if we have an issue, KROs will often accept the vehicle the same day and uh get it back to us. So we have a significant uh reduction in downtime. Um so I'm requesting the ability to waive the competitive bidding product process for our 2026 vehicle upfit and uh authorize K Ros of Huber Heights to perform the requested work for the quoted amount of sixty-five thousand five hundred and thirty five dollars and six cents. Uh this is 17,464 and 94 cents below our budgeted amount of 83,000 dollars. And I also asked that this uh project move before council tonight's regular meeting uh so upfitting can occur as soon as possible with our secured pricing. All right, anyone else on council have any questions about that? Seems pretty straightforward. All right. Thank you. Thank you. All right, we'll move on to items on the March 16th agenda. Uh the first being the Fire Station 2 kitchen remodel. Chief Follett. Good evening. Uh should have a memo regarding a fire station two renovation. Fire station two built in 1979. Uh, was built initially for volunteers in that year. Uh it underwent a minor renovation, more of a facelift cosmetic renovation in 2007 when we started staffing that firehouse 24 hours a day. Uh we put a smaller kitchen set in there. Uh however, that kitchen is still a kitchenette type setup. It's very small sink. Uh the appliances are kind of all around the kitchen. Uh so uh we've we've uh asked in our capital budget this year to do a minor remodel there. Uh we we sent out requests for proposals in early 2026 and we received uh five packages back. Uh the lowest and best bid we believe right now is creative countertops from East on East Winger Road in Inglewood, Ohio. Uh they've done some work in the city of Inglewood for the City of Inglewood. We've seen their work.

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