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Committee on Human Services Hearing on Poplar Point and Reeve Center Bills (October 28, 2026)

Council of the District of Columbia — Wednesday, October 28, 2026
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DateWednesday, October 28, 2026
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Speaker 1

0:09

Good afternoon.

0:10

I am Matt Freuman, Ward 3 Councilmember and Chairperson of the Committee on Human Services.

0:16

Today is October 28, 2026.

0:20

We are meeting in room 412 of the John A.

0:23

Wilson Building and on the Zoom virtual platform.

0:27

The time is now 1.10 p.m.

0:33

Today we're conducting a public hearing on three measures.

0:37

Bill 26-0845, the Poplar Point Acquisition and Disposition Approval Act of 2026, Bill 26-0846, the Poplar Point Economic Development Anchor Disposition Act of 2026, and Bill 26-0834, the Reeve Center Surplus Declaration and Disposition Approval Act of 2026.

1:07

All three of these bills were introduced by Chairman Mendelson at the request of the Mayor on September 30th, 2026, and referred sequentially to the Committee on Facilities and the Committee on Human Services on October 6, 2026.

1:23

The first bill on the docket is uh B 26-845-0845, the Poplar Point Acquisition and Disposition Approval Act of 2026.

1:34

Poplar Point is the district's last major undeveloped waterfront property.

1:40

The district has been working to acquire it for decades.

1:44

In 2006, Congress enacted the Federal and District of Columbia Government Real Property Act of 2006, which directed the National Park Service to transfer Poplar Point to the district after the district identified a new location for the NPS facilities there.

2:05

This legislation authorizes a series of transactions that will allow the district to take title to a large part of Poplar Point.

2:15

It finalizes a land swap involving the district, the Department of the Navy, and two developers, RBW NY LLC, and CQ Metro Land LLC that will satisfy the requirements of the 2006 federal legislation.

2:35

This deal will give the district jurisdiction over more than 70 acres of riverfront parkland and allow for the development of more than 440 of those acres.

Unassigned speaker

2:47

The

Speaker 1

2:47

second bill on the docket B 26-0846, the Poplar Point Economic Development Anchor Disposition Act of 2026.

2:58

This legislation allows the mayor to dispose of 15 acres at Poplar Point to Therm.

3:04

Therm seeks to acquire the land to build an approximately 400,000 to 600,000 square foot health and wellness facility.

3:14

Demped intends for this project to spur economic development and opportunities east of the Anacostia River while maintaining public access to green space paved paths and connections to bridges, waterfront, and streets.

3:30

The final bill on the docket today is B26-0834, the Reeve Center Surplus and Disposition Act of 2026.

3:39

The legislation authorizes the mayor to declare surplus and dispose of the district-owned real property located at the corner of 14th and V Streets Northwest that currently houses the Reeve Center.

3:55

The proposed project would replace the current Reeve Center building with two new buildings, one providing 322 new units of housing, and one providing 40,000 square feet of office and retail space.

4:11

There will also be a public space between the two buildings with amenities.

4:17

The site will also include a new headquarters for the NAACP, delivering the anchor for the historic U Street Corridor that was originally envisioned by late Mayor Marion Barry.

Unassigned speaker

4:47

I will turn now to uh been joined by my colleague, Councilmember Ward 8, Councilmember Traeon White, and Councilmember White, if you have an opening statement.

Unassigned speaker

4:47

I do it.

Speaker 2

4:48

Thank you, Chairman Fruman, for holding today's hearing.

Unassigned speaker

4:53

I'm gonna speak to one part of the discussion today, and I'll start with this.

Speaker 2

4:57

For decades, the people of Ward 8 has been promised the kind of investment that has transformed many parts of the city without displacing people.

5:06

We watch uh several parts of important corridors get uh redeveloped and looking beautiful and welcoming where people can grow uh shop and live where they where they where they work and play.

5:21

Uh but for Ward 8, we have been, you know, we haven't received equity.

5:25

For me, it's not a new conversation.

5:27

I remember attending a press conference.

5:29

I had to be about 21 or 22 with Murray and Burry at Poplar Point.

5:33

I'm 42, so you do the math.

5:37

We cannot keep going and say we uh we serve all wards from Ward 8 continues to get a divestment instead of an investment.

Unassigned speaker

5:46

Uh

Speaker 2

5:46

we remain open to the proposed federal land swap and to Thermo becoming an anchor tenant at Popular Point, or my priority is making sure the voices and concerns of Ward A residents are heard that our community benefits for what's next to

Unassigned speaker

5:59

come.

Unassigned speaker

6:00

I have personally as a council member been hosting uh listening sites in conjunction with Thermor to hear from the residents about what they want to see happen.

Speaker 2

6:08

Um, what opportunities there, not just a job, yes, job of course, but also make sure there are business owners who are able to participate uh if this comes to fruition.

6:17

There have been, I must say, a lot of interest in this, and I do say that has been uh listening and creating concessions for those businesses to get involved.

6:29

Um in 2025, uh unemployment in Ward 8 was at 10.3% compared to 6.3% across DC.

6:38

We need investment that's create jobs, wages, opportunities, but also business ownership.

6:44

For the past year and a half, our community has been engaged in conversations about the future of Poplar Point and not just with Therma, but the surrounding areas of Therma to ensure that that's a complete site with other amenities.

6:59

And that's a part of this conversation.

7:01

The district has demonstrated has demonstrated what it can accomplish when it commits to transforming an area like Waterfront or Navy Yard or NOMA, other parts of the city.

Unassigned speaker

7:11

When the district developed the Wolf, it committed 51%, it committed to a 51% DC resident hiring target and 20% hiring target for Ward A residents.

Speaker 2

7:22

Commitments like that are essential to making projects like this popular.

7:27

We're not talking about uh money, because it's not just a money, a matter of money, it's a matter of priority and partnership.

7:35

I've met with community members who are excited about Therma and those who may not be excited about Thermor, but it's important that we hear those voices and figure out how we can come to a happy medium to move Ward A forward.

7:45

What I'm excited about is about opportunity.

7:48

I've also heard from residents who wants to uh work there, shop there, uh, play there for lack of better words, but also want to do business there.

8:01

Um I know this will be the first of many conversations here at the council, but we've been talking about this for a few years now.

8:08

Um I look forward to hearing from uh witness testimony today.

8:12

Also, I'm excited that uh representatives from the DC uh many frontline workers and unions are gathered outside advocating for equity and inclusion and fair wages because for far too long they've been there working in the trenches doing the work to keep the city upheld, but we have not done our due diligence in a budget of 20 billion dollars where we've had surpluses here on the since I've been here since 2017.

8:36

Our budget was originally what 4.5 billion.

8:38

Now we're over 21 billion, and workers are still feeling left out of the equation.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Economic Development████████████████████████████████32%
Community Engagement███████████████15%
Affordable Housing███████████11%
Land Use Planning█████████9%
Public Engagement███████7%
Public Health████4%
Workforce Development████4%
Procedural███3%
Contract Procurement███3%
Summary of Proceedings

Committee on Human Services Hearing on Poplar Point and Reeve Center Bills (October 28, 2026)

The Committee on Human Services, chaired by Councilmember Matt Frumin (Ward 3), held a public hearing on October 28, 2026, to consider three major pieces of land disposition legislation: B26-0845 (Poplar Point Land Swap), B26-0846 (Poplar Point Therma Disposition), and B26-0834 (Reeve Center Surplus and Disposition). The hearing began at 1:10 PM and adjourned at 7:47 PM after hearing from government officials, development teams, and over 40 public witnesses.

Opening Statements

  • Councilmember Frumin opened the hearing, introducing the three bills.
  • Councilmember Trayon White (Ward 8) emphasized historic inequity, noting Ward 8's 10.3% unemployment rate (compared to 6.3% citywide) and the critical need for equitable investment, local hiring, and community benefits.
  • Councilmember Brianne Nadeau (Ward 1) strongly supported the Reeve Center project but raised concerns about splitting housing into a separate, delayed phase and advocated for government-led entitlements to speed up delivery.

Poplar Point — Government Testimony (DMPED)

Deputy Mayor Nina Alpert and Director Latrina Owens testified in support of B26-0845 and B26-0846.

  • B26-0845 (Land Swap): A multi-party agreement (District, Navy, NPS, Red Brick) to move NPS facilities to JBAB, satisfying a 2006 federal law. The site covers 164 acres; 110 are developable, with 70 acres required as parkland in perpetuity. Development yields ~40 acres (15 Therma, ~12 Red Brick, ~13 future).
  • B26-0846 (Therma Disposition): Disposition of 15 acres for a privately funded $800M health resort, generating 5,000 construction and 720 permanent jobs. Tax revenue would provide the revenue stream to fund the estimated $250M+ NPS relocation. Timeline to shovels is 5-7 years. The Anacostia Waterfront Zone mandates 30% affordable housing (at 60% and 30% AMI) on non-federal parcels.

Poplar Point — Public Witness Testimony

Support (with varying conditions):

  • John Alshuler (Therma CEO): Promised $1.5B in tax revenue over 25 years, workforce training, a $350M bond issuance, and a commitment of 1,000 free monthly tickets for Ward 8 residents. He expressed support for a project labor agreement.
  • Wanda Lockridge (Therma DC): Outlined 18 months of Ward 8 community engagement.
  • Tom Skinner (Red Brick): Urged passage of B26-0845 to secure the land swap, warning that the alignment of parties was fragile. He confirmed the deal was a land-for-land swap.
  • Rylinda Rhodes (Main Road Soap & Wellness): Supported development but demanded a funded, binding Community Benefits Agreement to protect local businesses from displacement. She stated: "We are not asking for favors... We want to work, we want to earn."
  • Absalom Jordan (Southern Hills Tenants Assoc.): Representing lower-income residents, he supported the project but insisted on clear, measurable commitments for training and equitable access.
  • Lafayette Barnes (former UPO Director), Christina Noel (Anacostia BID), and other Ward 8 business/community leaders overwhelmingly supported the project as a historic opportunity for jobs, but stressed accountability for local hiring.

Opposition/Concerns:

  • Mary Alice Levine (Committee of 100): Opposed B26-0846, calling the $1/year ground lease for a private corporation "scandalous" and citing a lack of due diligence.
  • Ayana Long (Ward 8 Resident): Opposed the bill, calling it "environmentally reckless." She highlighted Therma's controversies (NYT expose, Ontario legal battles) and criticized the process as a rush to give a handout to a foreign corporation without addressing community needs.
  • Debbie Hanrahan (DC Resident): Quoted the New York Times article alleging Therma misrepresented its finances and experience, urging the committee to table the bill.
  • ANC 8A Chair Jamila White: Announced ANC 8A's unanimous support for the land swap (B26-0845) and unanimous opposition to the Therma disposition (B26-0846). She decried the lack of a competitive RFP and stated the community is treated as an "afterthought."
  • Patrick O'Keefe (Historic Anacostia Block Assoc.) and Greta Fuller (Ward 8 Resident) criticized the procurement process (RFEI, not RFP) and the absence of binding legal commitments for local residents in the bill.
  • Sean Cheney (Bo Yoga Collective): Asked for community ownership models, arguing "Wellness was already here."

Reeve Center — Public and Development Team Testimony

Support:

  • The development team (CSG, Capri, NAACP) detailed a redevelopment plan for 14th and U Streets NW. The project includes the NAACP national headquarters, a 150-room hotel, 30,000 sq ft of arts and cultural space, a public plaza (Marion Barry Amphitheater), and up to 322 housing units (97 affordable at 30-50% AMI). The project is now structured in two phases due to market conditions, with housing placed in Phase 2, dependent on a map amendment and possible acquisition of the Gino Baroni property.
  • Commissioner Matt Faye (ANC 1B): Announced unanimous ANC 1B support, praising the affordable housing and community benefits, but asked the council to ensure the commitments were permanent in the legislation.
  • David Yarborough (Washington Jazz Arts Inst.) and Pastor Kevin Hart (Love First CDC) testified in support of the arts and childcare components.

Concerns:

  • Chris Otten (DC for Reasonable Development): Criticized the $1 purchase price / $99 ground lease without an appraisal, conflicting TIF estimates ($32M to $63M), and the lack of family-sized affordable apartments (only one affordable 3BR identified), calling it a "fire sale."

Key Outcomes and Discussion Points

  • No votes were taken. Written testimony is due by 5:00 PM, November 4, 2026.
  • Poplar Point Therma: DMPED agreed to provide a detailed comparative analysis of the tax revenue generation of Therma versus standard mixed-use development. A discrepancy was noted: Therma stated its environmental remediation liability has a cap, while DMPED stated there is no cap in its agreement with Therma.
  • Reeve Center: Councilmembers expressed unease about placing all housing in Phase 2, which is tied to a new map amendment. DMPED committed to assisting the developer with the entitlement process to minimize delays.
  • Displacement: A major recurring theme. Witnesses from Ward 8 and ANC 8A repeatedly argued that the Poplar Point Therma deal lacked the binding legal commitments necessary to prevent gentrification, distinguishing promises from tangible, enforceable outcomes.

Meeting Transcript

Good afternoon. I am Matt Freuman, Ward 3 Councilmember and Chairperson of the Committee on Human Services. Today is October 28, 2026. We are meeting in room 412 of the John A. Wilson Building and on the Zoom virtual platform. The time is now 1.10 p.m. Today we're conducting a public hearing on three measures. Bill 26-0845, the Poplar Point Acquisition and Disposition Approval Act of 2026, Bill 26-0846, the Poplar Point Economic Development Anchor Disposition Act of 2026, and Bill 26-0834, the Reeve Center Surplus Declaration and Disposition Approval Act of 2026. All three of these bills were introduced by Chairman Mendelson at the request of the Mayor on September 30th, 2026, and referred sequentially to the Committee on Facilities and the Committee on Human Services on October 6, 2026. The first bill on the docket is uh B 26-845-0845, the Poplar Point Acquisition and Disposition Approval Act of 2026. Poplar Point is the district's last major undeveloped waterfront property. The district has been working to acquire it for decades. In 2006, Congress enacted the Federal and District of Columbia Government Real Property Act of 2006, which directed the National Park Service to transfer Poplar Point to the district after the district identified a new location for the NPS facilities there. This legislation authorizes a series of transactions that will allow the district to take title to a large part of Poplar Point. It finalizes a land swap involving the district, the Department of the Navy, and two developers, RBW NY LLC, and CQ Metro Land LLC that will satisfy the requirements of the 2006 federal legislation. This deal will give the district jurisdiction over more than 70 acres of riverfront parkland and allow for the development of more than 440 of those acres. The second bill on the docket B 26-0846, the Poplar Point Economic Development Anchor Disposition Act of 2026. This legislation allows the mayor to dispose of 15 acres at Poplar Point to Therm. Therm seeks to acquire the land to build an approximately 400,000 to 600,000 square foot health and wellness facility. Demped intends for this project to spur economic development and opportunities east of the Anacostia River while maintaining public access to green space paved paths and connections to bridges, waterfront, and streets. The final bill on the docket today is B26-0834, the Reeve Center Surplus and Disposition Act of 2026. The legislation authorizes the mayor to declare surplus and dispose of the district-owned real property located at the corner of 14th and V Streets Northwest that currently houses the Reeve Center. The proposed project would replace the current Reeve Center building with two new buildings, one providing 322 new units of housing, and one providing 40,000 square feet of office and retail space. There will also be a public space between the two buildings with amenities. The site will also include a new headquarters for the NAACP, delivering the anchor for the historic U Street Corridor that was originally envisioned by late Mayor Marion Barry. I will turn now to uh been joined by my colleague, Councilmember Ward 8, Councilmember Traeon White, and Councilmember White, if you have an opening statement. I do it. Thank you, Chairman Fruman, for holding today's hearing. I'm gonna speak to one part of the discussion today, and I'll start with this. For decades, the people of Ward 8 has been promised the kind of investment that has transformed many parts of the city without displacing people. We watch uh several parts of important corridors get uh redeveloped and looking beautiful and welcoming where people can grow uh shop and live where they where they where they work and play. Uh but for Ward 8, we have been, you know, we haven't received equity. For me, it's not a new conversation. I remember attending a press conference. I had to be about 21 or 22 with Murray and Burry at Poplar Point. I'm 42, so you do the math. We cannot keep going and say we uh we serve all wards from Ward 8 continues to get a divestment instead of an investment. Uh we remain open to the proposed federal land swap and to Thermo becoming an anchor tenant at Popular Point, or my priority is making sure the voices and concerns of Ward A residents are heard that our community benefits for what's next to come. I have personally as a council member been hosting uh listening sites in conjunction with Thermor to hear from the residents about what they want to see happen. Um, what opportunities there, not just a job, yes, job of course, but also make sure there are business owners who are able to participate uh if this comes to fruition. There have been, I must say, a lot of interest in this, and I do say that has been uh listening and creating concessions for those businesses to get involved. Um in 2025, uh unemployment in Ward 8 was at 10.3% compared to 6.3% across DC. We need investment that's create jobs, wages, opportunities, but also business ownership. For the past year and a half, our community has been engaged in conversations about the future of Poplar Point and not just with Therma, but the surrounding areas of Therma to ensure that that's a complete site with other amenities. And that's a part of this conversation. The district has demonstrated has demonstrated what it can accomplish when it commits to transforming an area like Waterfront or Navy Yard or NOMA, other parts of the city. When the district developed the Wolf, it committed 51%, it committed to a 51% DC resident hiring target and 20% hiring target for Ward A residents.

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