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Winter Park City Commission Work Session on Blue Bamboo Center - June 25, 2026

City Commission — Thursday, June 25, 2026
BodyWinter Park, Florida
SessionCity Commission
DateThursday, June 25, 2026
StatusFILED
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Speaker 1

0:01

Thank you.

0:01

Welcome everyone to the Winter Park City Commission work session for June 25th, 2026.

0:08

Meeting is commenced.

0:10

Call to order.

0:11

Discussion item today is the Blue Bamboo Center for the Arts Operation Discussion.

0:16

And I think Mr.

0:17

Flowers, you asked for the work session, so we'll let you start it off.

Speaker 2

0:21

Thanks very much, Mayor.

0:27

Oh, thank you very much, Mayor.

Unassigned speaker

0:31

Well,

Speaker 2

0:31

my first job is to deliver 176 letters that are written by supporters of the blue bamboo in support of what we're going to be doing today.

0:47

I think it's important to acknowledge these people.

0:51

These are all individually written by them.

0:55

And there are people that really care a lot about our city and about the blue bamboo.

1:07

If

Unassigned speaker

1:09

you

Speaker 1

1:09

can go right up there to the microphone, and I think there's

Speaker 2

1:12

do it from there.

Speaker 3

1:14

You can do it from here.

Speaker 2

1:16

Okay, I'll just do it from here.

Unassigned speaker

1:20

Oh,

Speaker 2

1:21

that's the wrong one.

1:23

Great.

1:24

That's not it.

Speaker 4

1:25

The video or the numbers.

Speaker 2

1:27

That's the wrong PowerPoint.

1:30

Here you go.

Speaker 5

1:34

It's on these

Unassigned speaker

1:35

chairs.

Speaker 5

1:35

Thank

Unassigned speaker

1:36

you.

Speaker 2

1:39

Let me just start off with, you know, when I was here two years ago with Chris and we were beginning this process.

1:47

The goal at that time was to preserve the property, to keep it in the hands of the city.

2:03

And to provide a blue bamboo venue to work from.

2:08

And we've accomplished that.

2:11

In these last 24 months, we've managed to get all of the construction done except the last few things which are under permit review right now by the uh there we go.

2:25

Um by the um building department that should be done today, actually.

2:30

Uh there their review is due today.

2:33

And we have gotten the stairs accessible, the bathrooms on the first floor are accessible, etc.

2:39

So the ADA requirements have been met.

2:43

Yes, it was more expensive than we expected, and gee, we had to fix the um air conditioning system that we didn't know about, but we've got a solid roof, uh, a good elevator, and uh the stairwells are all brand new.

Unassigned speaker

2:58

So

Speaker 2

2:58

all of those construction processes are complete.

3:01

Um as you all know, our executive director, Chris Cortez, passed away this last December.

3:09

Um he was diagnosed in uh October, mid-October, and he was gone uh a week later from the state to be with his uh sister in California.

3:22

So we had to pick up the ball, and we did.

3:26

Um it was a pretty scary ball to pick up.

3:29

We didn't know how to do it, but we learned.

3:32

Um this calendar year, every month has been profitable.

3:37

We've hired a marketing team that has expanded our um seating uh ticket sales by 50 percent from what it was in the prior six months.

3:48

Um the it looked pretty gloomy in November with with the trauma of trying to figure out what software to use to run this place, what the passwords were to operate it, how you made payroll.

4:04

We didn't know anything, but the board of directors stood up.

4:08

Uh we've got a very strong support group in our uh volunteers.

4:12

Uh our board of directors are not just monetarily involved, they're physically involved in getting the building good to go and to running the shows.

4:20

Our staff is has really pulled it together.

4:23

So it's been a team effort, it's been a community effort.

4:26

Um, and it's worked.

4:28

Uh we're profitable.

4:30

Uh the shows are growing in size and in footprint.

4:33

Uh we've just hired a new booking agent that is booking the um Ocala Symphony Orchestra, uh, and we'll be picking up uh national acts for us and so forth.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Arts And Culture█████████████████████████████████████████████64%
Land Use and Zoning██████9%
Engineering And Infrastructure█████7%
Budget Equity Analysis████6%
Economic Development████5%
Public Engagement████5%
Procedural█2%
Community Engagement█2%
Summary of Proceedings

Blue Bamboo Center for the Arts Operation Discussion

The Winter Park City Commission held a work session on June 25, 2026, at 3:30 PM to discuss the future of the Blue Bamboo Center for the Arts. The primary agenda item involved a request from Blue Bamboo to amend its master lease for the former city library building, citing financial challenges and the need to lease to commercial entities to cover rising rent. The discussion was marked by significant disagreement over the failed collaborative model with Central Florida Vocal Arts (CFVA), as well as the city's assertion of its fiduciary duty over a public asset valued between $8 and $12 million.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Teresa Levin-Smith (CFVA): Argued that CFVA is a financially solvent, rapidly growing nonprofit that can afford the rent, contrary to Blue Bamboo's claims. She stated CFVA declined the lease because the terms were a "bait and switch" from the original collaborative vision, requiring half the rent for less than one-third of the building with hours restricted to ending at 5 PM. She urged the commission not to provide additional concessions, suggesting the original model should be returned to.
  • Kate Dolov (General Contractor for CFVA): Stated Blue Bamboo's refusal to collaborate on a shared construction schedule made the partnership unworkable.
  • In Support of Blue Bamboo: Randolph Saylor, Mike Barko, Dylan O'Shea, Jacklyn Johnson, Carol Ducas, CJ Wilson (Walker Construction), Alan Houghey, and Nathalia Bauer spoke in favor. CJ Wilson suggested a "fiscal blend" of commercial and nonprofit usage. Alan Houghey suggested a professional mediator.
  • In Opposition: Julia Lozada and Victoria Wells opposed the current Blue Bamboo leadership, citing governance issues and failed promises.
  • Damien Madsen (Broker): Recommended hiring a commercial broker to lease the upper floors at market rates to resolve the financial deadlock.

Discussion Items: Blue Bamboo Center for the Arts Operation

Presentation by Jeff Flowers Mr. Flowers stated Blue Bamboo generated $1.8 million in economic impact over 11 months, holding 181 events. He reported that the organization is profitable every month in 2026, with ticket sales up 50%. He requested lease amendments to allow commercial tenants, as the current rent ($32/sq ft) is scheduled to double to $44/sq ft ($22,000/month) in September 2026, a rate he claims no arts nonprofit can afford. He argued the upper floors cannot support performances and should be used for other purposes.

Commissioner Responses

  • Mayor DeCiccio: Reminded participants that Blue Bamboo proposed the initial rent figures and was given full transparency on the building's issues. She noted the city is cutting staff and facing a potential property tax elimination crisis. She rejected the idea of commercial leasing, stating it would devalue the city's $8-12 million asset.
  • Commissioner Ingram: Stated the failure to secure tenants is Blue Bamboo's responsibility. She suggested CFVA should take over the lease and sublet to Blue Bamboo.
  • Commissioner Russell: Emphasized the original lease vision of a collaborative arts hub and urged Blue Bamboo to re-engage nonprofits.
  • Commissioner Cruzada: Inquired about the $320,000 needed to complete the second-floor ADA upgrades.
  • City Manager Randy Knight: Explained the building lacks sufficient parking (73 spots for a 30,000 sq ft facility) which constrains shared usage.

Dispute: Blue Bamboo vs. CFVA Mr. Flowers claimed CFVA's lease demands included a minimum 250-person occupancy provision that would have left Blue Bamboo with only 12 seats, making their operations impossible. CFVA countered that this was a mischaracterization and that Blue Bamboo failed to collaborate, changed architects repeatedly, and refused to meet with city staff to resolve the issues.

Key Outcomes

  • The work session concluded without any formal vote or resolution.
  • The commission did not express support for amending the lease to allow commercial tenants or for providing additional rent relief.
  • Commissioners Ingram and Russell advocated for holding Blue Bamboo to the original nonprofit collaborative model.
  • The discussion will inform the city's upcoming budget review. Blue Bamboo faces a critical financial deadline when its rent doubles in September 2026.

Meeting Transcript

Thank you. Welcome everyone to the Winter Park City Commission work session for June 25th, 2026. Meeting is commenced. Call to order. Discussion item today is the Blue Bamboo Center for the Arts Operation Discussion. And I think Mr. Flowers, you asked for the work session, so we'll let you start it off. Thanks very much, Mayor. Oh, thank you very much, Mayor. Well, my first job is to deliver 176 letters that are written by supporters of the blue bamboo in support of what we're going to be doing today. I think it's important to acknowledge these people. These are all individually written by them. And there are people that really care a lot about our city and about the blue bamboo. If you can go right up there to the microphone, and I think there's do it from there. You can do it from here. Okay, I'll just do it from here. Oh, that's the wrong one. Great. That's not it. The video or the numbers. That's the wrong PowerPoint. Here you go. It's on these chairs. Thank you. Let me just start off with, you know, when I was here two years ago with Chris and we were beginning this process. The goal at that time was to preserve the property, to keep it in the hands of the city. And to provide a blue bamboo venue to work from. And we've accomplished that. In these last 24 months, we've managed to get all of the construction done except the last few things which are under permit review right now by the uh there we go. Um by the um building department that should be done today, actually. Uh there their review is due today. And we have gotten the stairs accessible, the bathrooms on the first floor are accessible, etc. So the ADA requirements have been met. Yes, it was more expensive than we expected, and gee, we had to fix the um air conditioning system that we didn't know about, but we've got a solid roof, uh, a good elevator, and uh the stairwells are all brand new. So all of those construction processes are complete. Um as you all know, our executive director, Chris Cortez, passed away this last December. Um he was diagnosed in uh October, mid-October, and he was gone uh a week later from the state to be with his uh sister in California. So we had to pick up the ball, and we did. Um it was a pretty scary ball to pick up. We didn't know how to do it, but we learned. Um this calendar year, every month has been profitable. We've hired a marketing team that has expanded our um seating uh ticket sales by 50 percent from what it was in the prior six months.

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